December 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Dems are having a moment, they don’t know how to handle combatting us. Trump will come in hitting the ground running. CNN is not the boss of Pete Hegseth – showing that we’re in a new era. On the Duke Lacrosse Case - Buck knew Crystal Magnum was lying when he heard her story -and now she’s come out and admitted she made up the whole Duke Lacrosse rape allegations. Rush talked about how the evidence from the beginning was not in support of Crystal Magnum’s allegations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Clay is back on US soil as of early this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
He's out today though, big time change and all that
from the Israel trip. He's gonna tell us all about
it next week when he's back in action here Stateside.
He said it was fascinating, it was powerful, and.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We've been texting and checking in with each other on
how it went over there. Of course, my role was
to stay over here make sure that the home fires
were burning here for the radio show. Everything going just fine,
and We've got a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I'm looking forward to it with all of you.
Make sure you call in eight hundred two A two
two eight A two and we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I'm gonna try to get to a bunch of calls
on Friday. I love getting a chance to chat with
you all.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'll take you on a quick a.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Little overview of the menu, the news and analysis a
la Cartes of the Clay Buck Show today. You've got
the UFOs over Jersey. Now there are maybe some other places.
I mean, this does seem like the beginning of a
science fiction movie, right. You know, it starts out the
politicians are like, there's no threat from the UFOs, and
(01:17):
then everyone's like, yeah, but what are the UFOs? And
I don't know. Weird stuff is going on right now.
We shall have a little more discussion of that. This
should be something that they can very quickly put aside
as any kind of concern or anxiety. But I don't
think that's necessarily going to.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Be the way this goes. For some reason. We'll figure
it out.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
The continued fallout after the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO,
I will say I was I was gratified that a
lot of you reached out either on social media or
email yesterday to say you agreed with me that I
don't look and I get it, and I'm trying to
be respectful of people want to have a discussion about
(02:01):
about healthcare. But I just also want to be very clear,
bright redline. You can't just go kill somebody in an industry,
or rather, I think we all know that you can't
support someone being killed in an industry as well.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That is not ethical.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, that's not where you should be because there are
problems in a trillion dollar industry effectively or whatever healthcare
is in this country at this point in time. It's
a giant mess, and we need to be honest about
the fact that it's a mess that we, the American people,
have created, and we have to have a lot of
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frank talk and accountability to fix it, but not violence
and not support of violence and not so. I was
gratified that so many people were like, no, I get
that right, and I want you to know I get
it too. For those of you who have had pre
existing conditions identified in a way that's basically fraudulent on
behalf of the healthcare health insurance companies, or you know
(02:58):
you've gotten a surprise bill at a host, I get it.
I mean I still walk with a slight limp because
I couldn't afford the surgery financial risk of a surgery
from like fifteen years ago. I get it right, I understand.
But we need those need to be separate discussions, and
I'm happy to have and continue to have here with
all of you, the healthcare discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
While we're also no, no, no bright redline.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
This guy MANNGIONI I think he should I mean he
should be facing the death penalty for what he did
in my opinion, if there's such a thing as in
a premeditated murder and terrorist act, this is what this
guy did and should you know, pay the full price.
But anyway, I think we all know he allegedly killed
this guy. He's going to spend the rest of his
life in prison if he has found guilty. And I
(03:42):
also wanted to jump in today's there's actually so many things.
Jim Jordan will be with us at one point thirty.
I'll talk to him more about the twenty six informants,
the people that were working for the FBI at the
rest of the FBI there on January sixth.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What were they doing? Why?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I have so many more questions. You know, we we
got to this yesterday with the breaking news, but why,
And you know what, I'll spend a minute on this now.
I also want to talk about some of the the
collapse of the poisonous race narrative for the Democrats in
some ways or we're seeing some of this happen.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think that's very important.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I want I want to talk about how jd Vance
has invited Daniel Penny to attend the Army Navy football
game with him, and I'm just going to say, my wife,
her whole family all a lot of a lot of
Navy guys and gals. So I think I got a
root for navy. And you know, unless I want problems
(04:47):
on the home front here, I'm just I'm sorry. I
love you army people, but I think I have to
root for navy because my wife and you know, naval,
they got naval. I go to the family reunion or whatever.
I go to the eightieth birthday party for the admiral,
and I got It's like the whole room is like
top Gun. It's all naval aviators everywhere and guys who
are running aircraft carriers and stuff. So anyway, Daniel Penny
(05:10):
though being invited to go with the soon to be
Vice president Jade Vance, I think is an interesting moment
in where things are right now and how the Trump
administration coming in. Everything that I see at this stage
is not about conciliation, is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not about a middle way path.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Or finding some way to make the crazy libs happy.
They need a bit of Trump shock therapy. It's actually
going to be better for them. It's going to be
better for the country for sure. To understand that, yes,
elections have consequences. Understand that Trump won a sweeping victory
and there's going to be different stuff going on here,
(05:56):
and the reliance on some of these old poisonous narratives
about race, about class, about the things that Democrats use
to turn people against each other, to leverage malcontents so
that they can become the Democrats can become more powerful
(06:17):
based upon fanning the flames of resentment and envy. That's
not working the way that it had for a long
time for them. I'm not saying it won't work again
in the future. I think they're going to find ways
to bring a lot of this back. But they are.
They are in a social justice warrior recession right now.
(06:41):
They are having a tough time and they don't know
how to even come at our side. And this is
a beautiful thing because it's good for the country. Dare
I say it is healing for the country that this
Trump administration is coming in full force to try to
enact the mandate to do what they were elected with
(07:02):
Trump and all these different Republicans the House and the Senate.
This was a Trump wave of election, and the party
is behind him. He's only got four more years. We
know that he's got to hit the ground absolutely running
and the usual you know, ankle biting and and you
know obstruction and what about this that's not gonna fly
(07:24):
our man Pete Hegseth, for example, I gotta say I
have a particularly I love this when CNN gets just
just suplex That's the wrestling move, right, supplex when you
lift the guy get supplexed in front of everybody. I
used to watch the wrestling with Hulk Hogan and all
the rest of it, And here he is CNN trying
(07:47):
to find you know, they just want to SoundBite that.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They then want to turn their.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
A an extension of the DNC, and their hope is
that they can get another scalp. They think that they
got them with Matt Gates. Whether that's true or not,
this certainly is the Democrat narrative among their own side,
and they're hoping they can take take down Pete Hegseth. Again,
by the way, I think that the reporting that I'd
(08:12):
seen about Ron DeSantis Bridge Colby Bridge in particular, has
come out all all out behind Pete heggset that Secretary
of Defense, and DeSantis, I believe is going to stay
in his role as governor. My point is their little
sort of turn them against each other, divide and conquer thing,
which I think became pretty clear that was the strategy
(08:33):
that's not working.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
There is a sense of purpose and momentum to the
incoming Trump administration and also a disdain, a a well
earned disdain for regime media, which I guess when Trump's
in charge, they'll be anti regime media.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But the regime media right now.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So when Pete is ambushed by on Capitol Hill, now
the audio here is not great, so I want you
to hear it, just because you know, I got to
play that. I got to present you with the facts
and then I'll tell you exactly what it was.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But this has cut three play it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, can you just respond to the CNN report this morning?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was highlighting some of your previous comments.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And don't feel the need to respond to CNN.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You are humporable with gave people hope that the survey.
Did you hear what I said there?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So Pete, CNN goes, are you okay with gay people
serving the military? Pete says very clearly yes, and then
she's like, well, can you respond to a CNN report?
And what I love about what Pete says is I
don't feel the need to respond to CNN. In a sense.
This is almost like, remember we were all kids, You're
not the boss of me. CNN has thought that they
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are the boss of us for a very long time.
CNN has take in the approach that they can shape
perception of what is the news, to the degree that
if they want to ruin you, stop your confirmation, destroy
your career, maybe even get your thrown.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
In prison, they can do it. Not anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
The new sheriff in town in this case, sheriff Hegseth.
But there's a lot of new sheriffs in town. And
I like to see this CNN and many of these
other entities that have been Democrat regime media stretching back
for of course decades in some cases the New York
Times its fact centuries, but it's gone full communist in
(10:35):
the last twenty or so, twenty four years.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Let's call it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
These deserve the disdain of the incoming administration. One of
my great frustrations for Republicans. And I know this opening segment.
You know what I'm doing. I'm weaving. But Trump has
made weaving great again, so I don't have to worry
about it. One of my irritations with Republican presidential contests
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in the past. They and this still happened this time around.
We just keep going in, Oh, maybe ABC News will
be fair this time, you know. May you know, we
have to do the regime media stuff in this new
Trump era.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's a new media era as well. It's different.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And the voices on the right, and I just it's obvious,
you know it. The voices on the right who have
emerged and who are prominent, are so much more honest, insightful,
dynamic capable than their peers on the left.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I mean, they are just.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
In any kind of a fair fight, they're just in
for an ass whoop and every day and we know it,
you know. And I have so many peers on the
right that are were important in this Trump victory and
did a great job fighting back against the fake news narratives.
And I'm just telling you we're entering a new era.
Elon buying X is a huge part of it. It's
(11:55):
like we have open comms now, right, those of you
who come from military background, If you don't have comms
and you're trying to fight a modern war, you're dead
in the water. Very hard for us to have mass
scale communication on the right without a true social media
platform that was at scale. Truth is building, rumbles building,
These things are building, but they're not at scale yet.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
X is at scale. So we're in a new media environment.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We have the crashing, the dash narratives of the Democrats
on Russia, collusion, Trump is Hitler, Trump's going to prison.
I mean, all this, that's all just now a new
era where they can't just scream racism. A Democrat can't
just scream racism, and it's you know, oh my gosh,
everyone runs for cover. I remember in twenty twenty, I
(12:42):
remember which Republicans were like, maybe we should do criminal
justice reform week week. Not right, not the right approach,
because that's not really what the left wants. The left
wants anarchy, power and destruction. They don't want all of
us to be safe and live in harmon because they're malcontents,
because they're Marxists. It all stacks up, you see it
(13:04):
all It's not complicated, really, I mean it can become complicated,
but the broad strokes are there, and so the disdain,
the disdain that someone like our friend Pete heggsat shows
for CNN, the and.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I text with Pete. He's gonna come on the show
at some point soon. By the way.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
He's just you know, he's in the middle of what
he's in the middle of, and he said it will happen.
So but you know, I just wanted to know what
we're rooting for him, and we were hoping that it
continues as it is right now where it looks like
he's going to get through, but the the Democrats are
scrambling and while we're going to go through some of
the challenges and some of the important battles that lay
(13:49):
ahead for the Trump administration today, I will tell you
it is a It is a good time for the
country right now in many ways other than the perhaps
alien invasion. And I don't mean over the border. I
mean in the sky. That's a little weird, but put
that aside. We'll get to it. It is a good
time for the country. The good guys this time around
have won a really big victory. And it's more than
(14:12):
just about getting more votes. It's about the defeat of
some of the most destructive, pernicious, and evil mass mobilization
narratives that have unfortunately been a major role in American politics.
Played a major role in them for the last well,
(14:32):
I would say stretching back to two thousand and eight,
the Obama years.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And this is a this is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And so I know that we got the holidays coming up,
and I know that the first year of Trump is
gonna it's gonna get wild, It's gonna be very, very interesting.
But take a moment to not only bask in the
victory of Trump from the election, but there has been
a recession of the craziness or the craziness is in
remission right now from the left. That does not mean
(15:02):
it is gone, right I said, remission, not defeat, not destruction.
But this is one of the great things about where
we are right now. Thanks Donald Trump. And it's a parcas.
Trump has the energy, the vigor, the vitality to do
what is necessary day in a day.
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They don't want to be like these sad sad guys
over at CNN who every day it's like watching TV.
I can just see their testosterone levels dropping in real time.
Brian Stelter's there, He's like, I don't know, I'm gonna
(15:45):
go cry at my pillow.
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What are my ratings? It's very sad.
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Speaker 2 (18:57):
It was one of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
The most heated and contentious early if you will meet you,
or early sexual assault allegation cases out there, and I
remember it very well.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I was at the CIA at the time. I remember
being I'll just tell you heber being on.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
A date with someone, not somebody that I, you know,
had a long relationship with, is out on a date
young guy.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I was, gosh, I.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Don't know what was I twenty four or something in
DC and this case came up, and I remember I
just looked at this young woman I was on the
date with and I was just like, well, I mean,
I just I think I just my quote I believe
was the stripper is lying, and I mean that was
just what I said because that was what was obvious
to me. And oh boy, did I did I get
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some heat on that one. I think she actually punched
me in the arm. I was just like, I think
she's lying. I've read the case read I think she's lying.
And guess what of course, in the Duke Lacrosse case,
as we know, those three young men. Now you know,
my peers, my contemporary is about my age. They weren't
not guilty. They were one hundred percent innocent. They did
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nothing wrong. They did not do it. They did not
lay a hand on this woman, They did not assault
this woman. They certainly did not sexually assault this woman.
It was all a lie. But it was in the
early stages of the weaponization of wokeness. I've often said
I think wokeness is weaponized political correctness. It's one way
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that I a shorthand describe it.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's political correctness is, hey, let's all be considered and
nice to each other. And then there's all this excessive
word policeying and oh, well you do you said this,
and you need to call me that and not this,
and and it's the beginning. It's the it's the entry
level phase, or or maybe the first major phase wokeness
is you use the wrong pronoun, you should be fired.
(21:05):
You dead named somebody, or you know, you didn't say
Native American, you said Indian. You know, you shouldn't be
a broadcaster anymore. Whatever, right, wokeness is taking it to
it's not so much about making annoying demands under the
cover of some kind of courtesy constantly and always sort
(21:25):
of whining, Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
We're victims. You know, we're victims, so be nicer to us.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Wokeness is now the victims are in charge, and they're
coming for you, the so called victims.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Right. That's wokeness to me, and it's one short.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I loved Elon's description of wokeness on a podcast I
think was the Babylon B podcast with Seth Dylan a
couple of years ago, where he just said, it's just
an excuse. It's just a shield for people to be
really mean, which is what it is for bitter, unhappy,
narcissistic malcontents to create virtue in their minds out of
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their cruelty, out of their mens. Absolutely true of wokeness
as well. And wokeness is on its back heels right now.
And this just reminds me though of in a sense,
wokeness coming full circle. The woman Crystal Mangum, who is
currently serving a prison sentence for murdering her boyfriend with
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a knife. She murdered her boyfriend in twenty eleven. In
two thousand and six, I remember this case, well, I
had a kind of a distant family connection to a
very close family friend, was very close family friends with
one of the accused memory serves, and I remember following
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this case very closely, and to me, the whole thing
was just so clearly a lie. It didn't add up,
the evidence didn't add up the story that it just
didn't happen. There's no way, the same way that the
fake gang rate at the UVA fraternity that Rolling Stone
ran with. Remember and I read this, and my family
can confirm this. I was at dinner of my whole
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family in New York, you know, my parents, my siblings,
and I said that that story is a lot. I
should have gone on the air right away and said
it was a lie, meaning the UVA uh you know
gang rape pokes. Which ever, again everyone admits that was
a lie. This isn't even in contention anymore. Everyone knows
that Crystal Mangum lied and bore false witness, which is
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a crime. I might add, it's actually illegal to do that,
and they should find that there should be criminal charges
when there are criminal statutes meant to prevent people from
trying to destroy people's lives. But you'll notice with Crystal Mangum,
they didn't do it, and then she went on to
murder somebody.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Maybe accountability for Crystal trying to ruin lives early on
would have been a good thing. But she was a
black woman and a quote exotic dancer, a stripper, and
the New York Times was championing her cause. Oh it
was all about class and race, Coi and Durham, North
Carolina and Duke and privileged Lacrosse bros.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh my gosh, it was like a made for TV
movie that The New York Times was creating.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And it was all a lie.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And as if we needed any more evidence of this
or information to support that thesis, she has come out
and admitted now in a podcast from prison, this is
the news. This is why I'm thinking about this today.
She made the whole thing up. The whole thing was
a lie. And you know this is that we're seeing
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a pattern here, aren't we. We're seeing a pattern of
these entities like The New York Times and others regime media, wokeness,
the left, where they perpetuate these deeply destructive hoaxes and
try to ruin people's lives. And I connect this to
say my friend Pete Hegseth basically extending a solitary finger.
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He didn't because he was being a you know, gentleman.
He's in the halls of Congress towards an end.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Though.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You know what they are, these these organizations and these
ideologies that they represent, and these movements of people. They
deserve your contempt. They deserve all of us to think
of them poorly as liars, as frauds. And I think
right now with the Trump victory, we are more.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Free than ever to just say what is true? And
doesn't that feel good?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Because they're not going to have the power to meet
out some punishment to you or to shout you down,
or they can't destroy reputations like they used to in
two thousand and six. If those boys hadn't had families
that absolutely and God bless them.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Can you imagine.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Can you imagine your mom or dad and your son
is accused of a of a violent gang rape of
a stripper. They deserve, you know, top students that one
of the best lacross programs in the country, and they
had this bright future ahead of them. They're accused of
a violent gang rape and you know, they're totally innocent.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Anybody could have.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Known they're totally innocent. None of this made sense. None
of the facts added up. There was nothing to support
this whatsoever. Mike Knife, you know what Rush saw this
so clearly. I remember I remember listening to him back
in the day on this topic.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right. This is part of my.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Rush education over many, many years, seeing how the greatest
of all time saw things and told you about it
and explained what was really going on here. This was
back in December of two thousand and six when the
weaponized law DA Mike Knifong a monster, a monstrous human being,
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had to drop the charges. This is what Rush said
down this two thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
All of the circumstantial evidence from the moment this case
was announced cast doubt on these charges. Everybody had doubts
about it. But look at what happened that This is
a great drive by media example. Drive by show up
and they start launching all kinds of AMMO and stuff
and get everybody on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
They just Incindia in the place.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And we had stories about how these are wealthy, white,
privileged elitist athletes and how they're automatically they've got to
be guilty. Why this is a racist society, and why
this is Durham North, Carol.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We know what Durham North, Carol. This is a south now,
we know that racism lives. And we had this poor black.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Woman who was just struggling to feed her baby by
stripping and showing up at parties like this and so forth,
the presumption of guilt from the moment.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
The charges were filed. It was completely true. I remember
reading the coverage in the New York Times. Remember I
came from a household. We were in New York Times subscribers.
I had a paper copy of the New York Times
dropped off at our front It was my dad's, but
I would read it at our front door, you know,
every day. I grew up reading the New York Times,
so I was this was my paper.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And I switched to.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The We all switched to the Wall Street Journal right
around this time. Actually, be honest with I think it
was early two thousands, post nine to eleven, So maybe
you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Point is, I knew their coverage very well, and they
wanted these They wanted these guys to be ruined. And
you know what's when you really understand the democrat, woke,
left wing Marxist mindset when you really know how they feel,
especially about the issue of race, which is effectively a
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religious cause for them, meaning the the vile racism of
America that they believe persist today and in some ways
is even you know, even worse because it's more subtle,
so it's harder to find, which is insane, I know,
but this is how they think of things, right, worse
than it was and when there was true racism in America. No,
now today it's worse because it's subtle, so you can't
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find it. They're insane, It makes no sense. They they
believe though, that if they had to sacrifice these three
privileged white boys on the altar of wokeness, and I
mean truly sacrificed them, send them to prison gang rapist.
What do you think it's gonna be like for these
guys as gang rapists of a black female stripper in prison? Well,
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what do you think their lives are going to be
like after this? You know, if they ever you know,
if they get out of prison in twenty years, their
lives are destroyed, ruin their families are The New York Times,
The thinking is yeah, but this is how we atone
for the racism of the past. This is how we
pay the bill that is due. This is the price
that they're willing to because I'm telling you some of
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them knew these boys were innocent. And you know how
I know that the prosecutor knew these boys were innocent.
The prosecutor knew that one of them was miles away
at an ATM machine using his card on Camra when
the rape is happening.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I mean exculpatory, entirely exculpatory.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And I think wouldn't drop the charges. You know why,
because he was trying to ride the woke politics of
the moment. Durham has a large black community. The Democrat
Party was weaponizing race. He thought he could use this
for his own purposes, and so he was willing to
sacrifice these three boys as well. What could be more
evil than wanting to destroy young men with a lie
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and ruin their lives, truly ruin their reputations, ruin their
psychle you know, their mental stability, because you think that
this is what racial justice demands in the moment. Now
that was two thousand and six. They lost, They came close.
If the evidence had been any if there had been
any doubt, there was no doubt these boys were innocent.
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And the court came out and said it, by the way,
that they were innocent, not just not guilty, innocent. But
think of how powerful the New York Times is. I
had a young women went to like an Ivy League
school herself, and she thought that I was a monster
for saying I don't believe this stripper. I don't believe her.
She's lying, and she was, and she now admits it.
In the New York Times. This was the beginning of
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The New York Times is pure descent into the demonic,
where they would destroy people for ideology. It is an
evil newspaper that does bad things to good people. It
has done it for many years now, and just like
with CNN, it deserves your contempt. Not it doesn't need reform,
(31:26):
it doesn't need a couple of actual conservative voices. It
deserves your contempt because until it's willing to crawl on
its hands and knees and say we are so sorry.
What we did was monstrous. And so many things, right Kavanaugh,
this Russia collusion, I mean, there's so many what they're
cheering for, the destruction of all these J six defendants
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and the ruination of.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Their lives for what Some of them just walked into
a building. They're taking selfies. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Trump's going to fix it. He is going to fix us.
I'm the same way that I'm telling you. I told
you Trump will win the election. Trump is going to
pardon J six people. It is going to happen. I
am absolutely confident. But you know, here we are, it's
been almost twenty years, and we finally close the loop
on one of the clearest cases of the evils that
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the left, the Democrat Party has come to embrace and
represent in this country. And don't ever forget it, because
we have to keep them out of the out of
the corridors of power. We have to minimize their influence.
We have to do everything possible because they will. They
will destroy people and with it, destroy this country if
they're allowed to. And you can see it as clear
(32:40):
as day that any that there wasn't the deepest shame
felt at the New York Times for what they tried
to do in that case. And now here we are,
think of all the people writing editorials the intersection of
class and race. Finally you know, set flame to the
situation on this woman.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
They're just I have never been this wrong about anything
as that in my life, as the New York Times
entire editorial board of news coverage was, and wasn't just
the New York Times, mind you, but they were the
real cheerleaders for it. So yeah, she lied about the
whole thing. Then she murdered somebody, and we didn't charge
her with anything about the lying because you know, oh
my gosh, class and race, we see what's going on here.
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app or wherever you get your podcasts. All righty, welcome
back into clay Enbock. We'll dive into the UFO situation.
(34:45):
I'm just gonna call off that, oh identified aerial phenomena whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
UFO.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I'll dive into that in the next hour a little bit. Also,
we've got Jim Jordan. I'm gonna put him the hot
on the hot seat. I'm gonna put him in a
half Nelson, so to speak, here on the air. He
was a state champion wrestler, and I'm gonna tell them
that we gotta figure out what's going on with these
drones and other things like the JA six and the
infiltration by the informants and everything else. A lot to
talk to Jim Jordan about. That's coming up next hour.
(35:12):
We have Monica in Denver. What's up, Monica?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Put me on.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'm so passionate about this subject with the Duke Lacrosse.
Ever since I watched the thirty for thirty on ESPN,
I would talk to anyone who would listen about this
because to me, it was the start of critical race
theory and dividing this country with I don't like them
because they're white, they seem privileged, they're smart, they go
(35:40):
to Duke. They are athletic, they got scholarships, they're rich,
and I don't like them, and I'm a victim of them.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
And when they showed the campus protest, it was so
sad to me. It was so sad that people that
did not know them just had hatred in their hearts
literally just because of what the perceived them to be.
And it's always made me so sad this story. Obviously
what happened to those boys being accused wrongfully, but also
(36:09):
just how it changed our country.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, this is I think it was. Even though it
was unsuccessful, it was I agree with you. It was
the early stage of the weaponization of this racial animosity
against the perceived privileged white male, all of this stuff
and then from the media, and it was the beginning
of it, and then it continued and then we had Kavanaugh,
(36:33):
and it's we have to always always understand how destructive
this was. And I I'm glad that so many of
you remember this case because it was very powerful. We'll
take more of your calls coming up and also get
into the UFOs and the informants FBI informance.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
On January sixth, stick around
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Clay is back on US soil as of early this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
He's out today though, big time change and all that
from the Israel trip. He's gonna tell us all about
it next week when he's back in action here Stateside.
He said it was fascinating, it was powerful, and.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We've been texting and checking in with each other on
how it went over there. Of course, my role was
to stay over here make sure that the home fires
were burning here for the radio show. Everything going just fine,
and We've got a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I'm looking forward to it with all of you.
Make sure you call in eight hundred two A two
two eight A two and we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I'm gonna try to get to a bunch of calls
on Friday. I love getting a chance to chat with
you all.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'll take you on a quick a.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Little overview of the menu, the news and analysis a
la Cartes of the Clay Buck Show today. You've got
the UFOs over Jersey. Now there are maybe some other places.
I mean, this does seem like the beginning of a
science fiction movie, right. You know, it starts out the
politicians are like, there's no threat from the UFOs, and
(01:17):
then everyone's like, yeah, but what are the UFOs? And
I don't know. Weird stuff is going on right now.
We shall have a little more discussion of that. This
should be something that they can very quickly put aside
as any kind of concern or anxiety. But I don't
think that's necessarily going to.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Be the way this goes. For some reason. We'll figure
it out.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
The continued fallout after the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO,
I will say I was I was gratified that a
lot of you reached out either on social media or
email yesterday to say you agreed with me that I
don't look and I get it, and I'm trying to
be respectful of people want to have a discussion about
(02:01):
about healthcare. But I just also want to be very clear,
bright redline. You can't just go kill somebody in an industry,
or rather, I think we all know that you can't
support someone being killed in an industry as well.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That is not ethical.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, that's not where you should be because there are
problems in a trillion dollar industry effectively or whatever healthcare
is in this country at this point in time. It's
a giant mess, and we need to be honest about
the fact that it's a mess that we, the American people,
have created, and we have to have a lot of
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frank talk and accountability to fix it, but not violence
and not support of violence and not so. I was
gratified that so many people were like, no, I get
that right, and I want you to know I get
it too. For those of you who have had pre
existing conditions identified in a way that's basically fraudulent on
behalf of the healthcare health insurance companies, or you know
(02:58):
you've gotten a surprise bill at a host, I get it.
I mean I still walk with a slight limp because
I couldn't afford the surgery financial risk of a surgery
from like fifteen years ago. I get it right, I understand.
But we need those need to be separate discussions, and
I'm happy to have and continue to have here with
all of you, the healthcare discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
While we're also no, no, no bright redline.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
This guy MANNGIONI I think he should I mean he
should be facing the death penalty for what he did
in my opinion, if there's such a thing as in
a premeditated murder and terrorist act, this is what this
guy did and should you know, pay the full price.
But anyway, I think we all know he allegedly killed
this guy. He's going to spend the rest of his
life in prison if he has found guilty. And I
(03:42):
also wanted to jump in today's there's actually so many things.
Jim Jordan will be with us at one point thirty.
I'll talk to him more about the twenty six informants,
the people that were working for the FBI at the
rest of the FBI there on January sixth.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What were they doing? Why?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I have so many more questions. You know, we we
got to this yesterday with the breaking news, but why,
And you know what, I'll spend a minute on this now.
I also want to talk about some of the the
collapse of the poisonous race narrative for the Democrats in
some ways or we're seeing some of this happen.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think that's very important.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I want I want to talk about how jd Vance
has invited Daniel Penny to attend the Army Navy football
game with him, and I'm just going to say, my wife,
her whole family all a lot of a lot of
Navy guys and gals. So I think I got a
root for navy. And you know, unless I want problems
(04:47):
on the home front here, I'm just I'm sorry. I
love you army people, but I think I have to
root for navy because my wife and you know, naval,
they got naval. I go to the family reunion or whatever.
I go to the eightieth birthday party for the admiral,
and I got It's like the whole room is like
top Gun. It's all naval aviators everywhere and guys who
are running aircraft carriers and stuff. So anyway, Daniel Penny
(05:10):
though being invited to go with the soon to be
Vice president Jade Vance, I think is an interesting moment
in where things are right now and how the Trump
administration coming in. Everything that I see at this stage
is not about conciliation, is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not about a middle way path.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Or finding some way to make the crazy libs happy.
They need a bit of Trump shock therapy. It's actually
going to be better for them. It's going to be
better for the country for sure. To understand that, yes,
elections have consequences. Understand that Trump won a sweeping victory
and there's going to be different stuff going on here,
(05:56):
and the reliance on some of these old poisonous narratives
about race, about class, about the things that Democrats use
to turn people against each other, to leverage malcontents so
that they can become the Democrats can become more powerful
(06:17):
based upon fanning the flames of resentment and envy. That's
not working the way that it had for a long
time for them. I'm not saying it won't work again
in the future. I think they're going to find ways
to bring a lot of this back. But they are.
They are in a social justice warrior recession right now.
(06:41):
They are having a tough time and they don't know
how to even come at our side. And this is
a beautiful thing because it's good for the country. Dare
I say it is healing for the country that this
Trump administration is coming in full force to try to
enact the mandate to do what they were elected with
(07:02):
Trump and all these different Republicans the House and the Senate.
This was a Trump wave of election, and the party
is behind him. He's only got four more years. We
know that he's got to hit the ground absolutely running
and the usual you know, ankle biting and and you
know obstruction and what about this that's not gonna fly
(07:24):
our man Pete Hegseth, for example, I gotta say I
have a particularly I love this when CNN gets just
just suplex That's the wrestling move, right, supplex when you
lift the guy get supplexed in front of everybody. I
used to watch the wrestling with Hulk Hogan and all
the rest of it, And here he is CNN trying
(07:47):
to find you know, they just want to SoundBite that.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They then want to turn their.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
A an extension of the DNC, and their hope is
that they can get another scalp. They think that they
got them with Matt Gates. Whether that's true or not,
this certainly is the Democrat narrative among their own side,
and they're hoping they can take take down Pete Hegseth. Again,
by the way, I think that the reporting that I'd
(08:12):
seen about Ron DeSantis Bridge Colby Bridge in particular, has
come out all all out behind Pete heggset that Secretary
of Defense, and DeSantis, I believe is going to stay
in his role as governor. My point is their little
sort of turn them against each other, divide and conquer thing,
which I think became pretty clear that was the strategy
(08:33):
that's not working.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
There is a sense of purpose and momentum to the
incoming Trump administration and also a disdain, a a well
earned disdain for regime media, which I guess when Trump's
in charge, they'll be anti regime media.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But the regime media right now.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So when Pete is ambushed by on Capitol Hill, now
the audio here is not great, so I want you
to hear it, just because you know, I got to
play that. I got to present you with the facts
and then I'll tell you exactly what it was.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But this has cut three play it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, can you just respond to the CNN report this morning?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was highlighting some of your previous comments.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And don't feel the need to respond to CNN.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You are humporable with gave people hope that the survey.
Did you hear what I said there?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So Pete, CNN goes, are you okay with gay people
serving the military? Pete says very clearly yes, and then
she's like, well, can you respond to a CNN report?
And what I love about what Pete says is I
don't feel the need to respond to CNN. In a sense.
This is almost like, remember we were all kids, You're
not the boss of me. CNN has thought that they
(09:55):
are the boss of us for a very long time.
CNN has take in the approach that they can shape
perception of what is the news, to the degree that
if they want to ruin you, stop your confirmation, destroy
your career, maybe even get your thrown.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
In prison, they can do it. Not anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
The new sheriff in town in this case, sheriff Hegseth.
But there's a lot of new sheriffs in town. And
I like to see this CNN and many of these
other entities that have been Democrat regime media stretching back
for of course decades in some cases the New York
Times its fact centuries, but it's gone full communist in
(10:35):
the last twenty or so, twenty four years.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Let's call it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
These deserve the disdain of the incoming administration. One of
my great frustrations for Republicans. And I know this opening segment.
You know what I'm doing. I'm weaving. But Trump has
made weaving great again, so I don't have to worry
about it. One of my irritations with Republican presidential contests
(10:59):
in the past. They and this still happened this time around.
We just keep going in, Oh, maybe ABC News will
be fair this time, you know. May you know, we
have to do the regime media stuff in this new
Trump era.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's a new media era as well. It's different.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And the voices on the right, and I just it's obvious,
you know it. The voices on the right who have
emerged and who are prominent, are so much more honest, insightful,
dynamic capable than their peers on the left.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I mean, they are just.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
In any kind of a fair fight, they're just in
for an ass whoop and every day and we know it,
you know. And I have so many peers on the
right that are were important in this Trump victory and
did a great job fighting back against the fake news narratives.
And I'm just telling you we're entering a new era.
Elon buying X is a huge part of it. It's
(11:55):
like we have open comms now, right, those of you
who come from military background, If you don't have comms
and you're trying to fight a modern war, you're dead
in the water. Very hard for us to have mass
scale communication on the right without a true social media
platform that was at scale. Truth is building, rumbles building,
These things are building, but they're not at scale yet.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
X is at scale. So we're in a new media environment.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We have the crashing, the dash narratives of the Democrats
on Russia, collusion, Trump is Hitler, Trump's going to prison.
I mean, all this, that's all just now a new
era where they can't just scream racism. A Democrat can't
just scream racism, and it's you know, oh my gosh,
everyone runs for cover. I remember in twenty twenty, I
(12:42):
remember which Republicans were like, maybe we should do criminal
justice reform week week. Not right, not the right approach,
because that's not really what the left wants. The left
wants anarchy, power and destruction. They don't want all of
us to be safe and live in harmon because they're malcontents,
because they're Marxists. It all stacks up, you see it
(13:04):
all It's not complicated, really, I mean it can become complicated,
but the broad strokes are there, and so the disdain,
the disdain that someone like our friend Pete heggsat shows
for CNN, the and.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I text with Pete. He's gonna come on the show
at some point soon. By the way.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
He's just you know, he's in the middle of what
he's in the middle of, and he said it will happen.
So but you know, I just wanted to know what
we're rooting for him, and we were hoping that it
continues as it is right now where it looks like
he's going to get through, but the the Democrats are
scrambling and while we're going to go through some of
the challenges and some of the important battles that lay
(13:49):
ahead for the Trump administration today, I will tell you
it is a It is a good time for the
country right now in many ways other than the perhaps
alien invasion. And I don't mean over the border. I
mean in the sky. That's a little weird, but put
that aside. We'll get to it. It is a good
time for the country. The good guys this time around
have won a really big victory. And it's more than
(14:12):
just about getting more votes. It's about the defeat of
some of the most destructive, pernicious, and evil mass mobilization
narratives that have unfortunately been a major role in American politics.
Played a major role in them for the last well,
(14:32):
I would say stretching back to two thousand and eight,
the Obama years.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And this is a this is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And so I know that we got the holidays coming up,
and I know that the first year of Trump is
gonna it's gonna get wild, It's gonna be very, very interesting.
But take a moment to not only bask in the
victory of Trump from the election, but there has been
a recession of the craziness or the craziness is in
remission right now from the left. That does not mean
(15:02):
it is gone, right I said, remission, not defeat, not destruction.
But this is one of the great things about where
we are right now. Thanks Donald Trump. And it's a parcas.
Trump has the energy, the vigor, the vitality to do
what is necessary day in a day.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
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They don't want to be like these sad sad guys
over at CNN who every day it's like watching TV.
I can just see their testosterone levels dropping in real time.
Brian Stelter's there, He's like, I don't know, I'm gonna
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go cry at my pillow.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
What are my ratings? It's very sad.
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It was one of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
The most heated and contentious early if you will meet you,
or early sexual assault allegation cases out there, and I
remember it very well.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I was at the CIA at the time. I remember
being I'll just tell you heber being on.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
A date with someone, not somebody that I, you know,
had a long relationship with, is out on a date
young guy.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I was, gosh, I.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Don't know what was I twenty four or something in
DC and this case came up, and I remember I
just looked at this young woman I was on the
date with and I was just like, well, I mean,
I just I think I just my quote I believe
was the stripper is lying, and I mean that was
just what I said because that was what was obvious
to me. And oh boy, did I did I get
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some heat on that one. I think she actually punched
me in the arm. I was just like, I think
she's lying. I've read the case read I think she's lying.
And guess what of course, in the Duke Lacrosse case,
as we know, those three young men. Now you know,
my peers, my contemporary is about my age. They weren't
not guilty. They were one hundred percent innocent. They did
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nothing wrong. They did not do it. They did not
lay a hand on this woman, They did not assault
this woman. They certainly did not sexually assault this woman.
It was all a lie. But it was in the
early stages of the weaponization of wokeness. I've often said
I think wokeness is weaponized political correctness. It's one way
(20:39):
that I a shorthand describe it.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's political correctness is, hey, let's all be considered and
nice to each other. And then there's all this excessive
word policeying and oh, well you do you said this,
and you need to call me that and not this,
and and it's the beginning. It's the it's the entry
level phase, or or maybe the first major phase wokeness
is you use the wrong pronoun, you should be fired.
(21:05):
You dead named somebody, or you know, you didn't say
Native American, you said Indian. You know, you shouldn't be
a broadcaster anymore. Whatever, right, wokeness is taking it to
it's not so much about making annoying demands under the
cover of some kind of courtesy constantly and always sort
(21:25):
of whining, Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
We're victims. You know, we're victims, so be nicer to us.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Wokeness is now the victims are in charge, and they're
coming for you, the so called victims.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Right. That's wokeness to me, and it's one short.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I loved Elon's description of wokeness on a podcast I
think was the Babylon B podcast with Seth Dylan a
couple of years ago, where he just said, it's just
an excuse. It's just a shield for people to be
really mean, which is what it is for bitter, unhappy,
narcissistic malcontents to create virtue in their minds out of
(21:58):
their cruelty, out of their mens. Absolutely true of wokeness
as well. And wokeness is on its back heels right now.
And this just reminds me though of in a sense,
wokeness coming full circle. The woman Crystal Mangum, who is
currently serving a prison sentence for murdering her boyfriend with
(22:23):
a knife. She murdered her boyfriend in twenty eleven. In
two thousand and six, I remember this case, well, I
had a kind of a distant family connection to a
very close family friend, was very close family friends with
one of the accused memory serves, and I remember following
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this case very closely, and to me, the whole thing
was just so clearly a lie. It didn't add up,
the evidence didn't add up the story that it just
didn't happen. There's no way, the same way that the
fake gang rate at the UVA fraternity that Rolling Stone
ran with. Remember and I read this, and my family
can confirm this. I was at dinner of my whole
(23:06):
family in New York, you know, my parents, my siblings,
and I said that that story is a lot. I
should have gone on the air right away and said
it was a lie, meaning the UVA uh you know
gang rape pokes. Which ever, again everyone admits that was
a lie. This isn't even in contention anymore. Everyone knows
that Crystal Mangum lied and bore false witness, which is
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a crime. I might add, it's actually illegal to do that,
and they should find that there should be criminal charges
when there are criminal statutes meant to prevent people from
trying to destroy people's lives. But you'll notice with Crystal Mangum,
they didn't do it, and then she went on to
murder somebody.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Maybe accountability for Crystal trying to ruin lives early on
would have been a good thing. But she was a
black woman and a quote exotic dancer, a stripper, and
the New York Times was championing her cause. Oh it
was all about class and race, Coi and Durham, North
Carolina and Duke and privileged Lacrosse bros.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh my gosh, it was like a made for TV
movie that The New York Times was creating.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And it was all a lie.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And as if we needed any more evidence of this
or information to support that thesis, she has come out
and admitted now in a podcast from prison, this is
the news. This is why I'm thinking about this today.
She made the whole thing up. The whole thing was
a lie. And you know this is that we're seeing
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a pattern here, aren't we. We're seeing a pattern of
these entities like The New York Times and others regime media, wokeness,
the left, where they perpetuate these deeply destructive hoaxes and
try to ruin people's lives. And I connect this to
say my friend Pete Hegseth basically extending a solitary finger.
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He didn't because he was being a you know, gentleman.
He's in the halls of Congress towards an end.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Though.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You know what they are, these these organizations and these
ideologies that they represent, and these movements of people. They
deserve your contempt. They deserve all of us to think
of them poorly as liars, as frauds. And I think
right now with the Trump victory, we are more.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Free than ever to just say what is true? And
doesn't that feel good?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Because they're not going to have the power to meet
out some punishment to you or to shout you down,
or they can't destroy reputations like they used to in
two thousand and six. If those boys hadn't had families
that absolutely and God bless them.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Can you imagine.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Can you imagine your mom or dad and your son
is accused of a of a violent gang rape of
a stripper. They deserve, you know, top students that one
of the best lacross programs in the country, and they
had this bright future ahead of them. They're accused of
a violent gang rape and you know, they're totally innocent.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Anybody could have.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Known they're totally innocent. None of this made sense. None
of the facts added up. There was nothing to support
this whatsoever. Mike Knife, you know what Rush saw this
so clearly. I remember I remember listening to him back
in the day on this topic.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right. This is part of my.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Rush education over many, many years, seeing how the greatest
of all time saw things and told you about it
and explained what was really going on here. This was
back in December of two thousand and six when the
weaponized law DA Mike Knifong a monster, a monstrous human being,
(26:45):
had to drop the charges. This is what Rush said
down this two thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
All of the circumstantial evidence from the moment this case
was announced cast doubt on these charges. Everybody had doubts
about it. But look at what happened that This is
a great drive by media example. Drive by show up
and they start launching all kinds of AMMO and stuff
and get everybody on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
They just Incindia in the place.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And we had stories about how these are wealthy, white,
privileged elitist athletes and how they're automatically they've got to
be guilty. Why this is a racist society, and why
this is Durham North, Carol.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We know what Durham North, Carol. This is a south now,
we know that racism lives. And we had this poor black.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Woman who was just struggling to feed her baby by
stripping and showing up at parties like this and so forth,
the presumption of guilt from the moment.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
The charges were filed. It was completely true. I remember
reading the coverage in the New York Times. Remember I
came from a household. We were in New York Times subscribers.
I had a paper copy of the New York Times
dropped off at our front It was my dad's, but
I would read it at our front door, you know,
every day. I grew up reading the New York Times,
so I was this was my paper.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And I switched to.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The We all switched to the Wall Street Journal right
around this time. Actually, be honest with I think it
was early two thousands, post nine to eleven, So maybe
you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Point is, I knew their coverage very well, and they
wanted these They wanted these guys to be ruined. And
you know what's when you really understand the democrat, woke,
left wing Marxist mindset when you really know how they feel,
especially about the issue of race, which is effectively a
(28:35):
religious cause for them, meaning the the vile racism of
America that they believe persist today and in some ways
is even you know, even worse because it's more subtle,
so it's harder to find, which is insane, I know,
but this is how they think of things, right, worse
than it was and when there was true racism in America. No,
now today it's worse because it's subtle, so you can't
(28:56):
find it. They're insane, It makes no sense. They they
believe though, that if they had to sacrifice these three
privileged white boys on the altar of wokeness, and I
mean truly sacrificed them, send them to prison gang rapist.
What do you think it's gonna be like for these
guys as gang rapists of a black female stripper in prison? Well,
(29:17):
what do you think their lives are going to be
like after this? You know, if they ever you know,
if they get out of prison in twenty years, their
lives are destroyed, ruin their families are The New York Times,
The thinking is yeah, but this is how we atone
for the racism of the past. This is how we
pay the bill that is due. This is the price
that they're willing to because I'm telling you some of
(29:39):
them knew these boys were innocent. And you know how
I know that the prosecutor knew these boys were innocent.
The prosecutor knew that one of them was miles away
at an ATM machine using his card on Camra when
the rape is happening.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I mean exculpatory, entirely exculpatory.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And I think wouldn't drop the charges. You know why,
because he was trying to ride the woke politics of
the moment. Durham has a large black community. The Democrat
Party was weaponizing race. He thought he could use this
for his own purposes, and so he was willing to
sacrifice these three boys as well. What could be more
evil than wanting to destroy young men with a lie
(30:23):
and ruin their lives, truly ruin their reputations, ruin their
psychle you know, their mental stability, because you think that
this is what racial justice demands in the moment. Now
that was two thousand and six. They lost, They came close.
If the evidence had been any if there had been
any doubt, there was no doubt these boys were innocent.
(30:45):
And the court came out and said it, by the way,
that they were innocent, not just not guilty, innocent. But
think of how powerful the New York Times is. I
had a young women went to like an Ivy League
school herself, and she thought that I was a monster
for saying I don't believe this stripper. I don't believe her.
She's lying, and she was, and she now admits it.
In the New York Times. This was the beginning of
(31:06):
The New York Times is pure descent into the demonic,
where they would destroy people for ideology. It is an
evil newspaper that does bad things to good people. It
has done it for many years now, and just like
with CNN, it deserves your contempt. Not it doesn't need reform,
(31:26):
it doesn't need a couple of actual conservative voices. It
deserves your contempt because until it's willing to crawl on
its hands and knees and say we are so sorry.
What we did was monstrous. And so many things, right Kavanaugh,
this Russia collusion, I mean, there's so many what they're
cheering for, the destruction of all these J six defendants
(31:48):
and the ruination of.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Their lives for what Some of them just walked into
a building. They're taking selfies. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Trump's going to fix it. He is going to fix us.
I'm the same way that I'm telling you. I told
you Trump will win the election. Trump is going to
pardon J six people. It is going to happen. I
am absolutely confident. But you know, here we are, it's
been almost twenty years, and we finally close the loop
on one of the clearest cases of the evils that
(32:18):
the left, the Democrat Party has come to embrace and
represent in this country. And don't ever forget it, because
we have to keep them out of the out of
the corridors of power. We have to minimize their influence.
We have to do everything possible because they will. They
will destroy people and with it, destroy this country if
they're allowed to. And you can see it as clear
(32:40):
as day that any that there wasn't the deepest shame
felt at the New York Times for what they tried
to do in that case. And now here we are,
think of all the people writing editorials the intersection of
class and race. Finally you know, set flame to the
situation on this woman.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
They're just I have never been this wrong about anything
as that in my life, as the New York Times
entire editorial board of news coverage was, and wasn't just
the New York Times, mind you, but they were the
real cheerleaders for it. So yeah, she lied about the
whole thing. Then she murdered somebody, and we didn't charge
her with anything about the lying because you know, oh
my gosh, class and race, we see what's going on here.
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(34:45):
I'm just gonna call off that, oh identified aerial phenomena whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
UFO.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I'll dive into that in the next hour a little bit. Also,
we've got Jim Jordan. I'm gonna put him the hot
on the hot seat. I'm gonna put him in a
half Nelson, so to speak, here on the air. He
was a state champion wrestler, and I'm gonna tell them
that we gotta figure out what's going on with these
drones and other things like the JA six and the
infiltration by the informants and everything else. A lot to
talk to Jim Jordan about. That's coming up next hour.
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We have Monica in Denver. What's up, Monica?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Put me on.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'm so passionate about this subject with the Duke Lacrosse.
Ever since I watched the thirty for thirty on ESPN,
I would talk to anyone who would listen about this
because to me, it was the start of critical race
theory and dividing this country with I don't like them
because they're white, they seem privileged, they're smart, they go
(35:40):
to Duke. They are athletic, they got scholarships, they're rich,
and I don't like them, and I'm a victim of them.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
And when they showed the campus protest, it was so
sad to me. It was so sad that people that
did not know them just had hatred in their hearts
literally just because of what the perceived them to be.
And it's always made me so sad this story. Obviously
what happened to those boys being accused wrongfully, but also
(36:09):
just how it changed our country.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, this is I think it was. Even though it
was unsuccessful, it was I agree with you. It was
the early stage of the weaponization of this racial animosity
against the perceived privileged white male, all of this stuff
and then from the media, and it was the beginning
of it, and then it continued and then we had Kavanaugh,
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and it's we have to always always understand how destructive
this was. And I I'm glad that so many of
you remember this case because it was very powerful. We'll
take more of your calls coming up and also get
into the UFOs and the informants FBI informance.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
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