December 30, 2024 • 33 mins
Brett Winterble fills in for Clay & Buck. Another major development in the situation between House Speaker Mike Johnson and President Trump. Former President Jimmy Carter passes away at the age of 100. Immigrants should come to America wanting to be Americans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's heard on news Talkie eleven ninety nine point three
WBT and Charlotte, North Carolina. Please welcome Brett Winterble filling
in for Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And it is a pleasure to be with you today. Big,
big news moving. Just in the last couple of hours,
President Trump has endorsed Mike Johnson as the Speaker of
the House. Questions now abound. Will there be a challenger?
We'll keep an eye on that. Our telephone number for
the Clay and Buck Show is eight hundred and two
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It is a pleasure to be able to spend time
with you here today. So President elect Donald Trump endorsed
Mike Johnson this morning, after leaving Johnson twisting in the
wind for eleven days. That's the write up over at
by Bradley Jay. Over at bright Bark, Trump posted a
two hundred and thirty two word soliloquy on truth social
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touting his elector and attacking Democrats for weaponizing the government
against him. At the very end, he endorsed Johnson for speaker,
using what this has described as a boilerplate endorsement quote,
let's not blow this great opportunity which we have been given.
The American people need immediate, all caps relief from all
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the destructive policies in the last administration. Speaker Mike Johnson
is a good, hard working religious man. He will do
the right thing and we will continue to win. Mike
has my complete and total endorsement. MAGA three exclamation points.
So you know, you've had this scurrying back and forth
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and this you know, drama back and forth over the
last couple of weeks, and now President Trump has come
out and said, look, he's the guy. I was watching
a number of interviews earlier today. Victoria Sparks was one
of the people that was being interviewed. Mike Lawler was
being interviewed. And certainly they're you know, they're from different
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sort of orientations on conservatism, but these folks were abundantly
clear that yeah, maybe we should have somebody run, But
who's the person going to be? They would not They
didn't have a name, they didn't attach your name. And
now it waits to be seen as to what's going
to happen as a result of this process, because will
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somebody come in at the last possible moment and say, listen,
I don't want Mike Johnson in there. We're gonna We're
gonna do them in. It's not gonna work. Now. There
are you know, reports out there that indicate that they
have a crued enough support for him to take the cavil,
but nothing is ever settled in Washington, d C. Until
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it's actually settled, and that's that's something you can absolutely guarantee.
So we will keep an eye on that in a
big way. Obviously, the big news as you woke up
this morning and even from yesterday, the passing of President
Jimmy Carter at one hundred years of age. He had
been in in hospice care for the last almost two
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years and he passed away yesterday. Accolades kind of mixed
with him based on what happened when he was, you know,
held hostage along with the American people metaphorically speaking with
the with the hostage crisis that took place there in
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Tehran four hundred and forty four days. It was only
after Ronald Reagan came in to the office that the
hostages were released, and he made that announcement at that
moment that they had that they had been released. Jimmy
Carter is somebody that many people will say was a
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very decent man, a man of great faith. But you
have to also understand something here. And I'm not trying
to throw a wet blanket on this, but Jimmy Carter
was also a very strong He had he had very
strong techniques that he could use. He understood how you
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could play the heartstrings of the American people. And I'm
not I'm not saying that that he was being cynical
about it. But anybody who gets into the job of
being the president of the United States, you have a
lot of theatrics that come with that, no matter who
it is that's running, right, no matter who who that's
running uh, pictures that get released, uh, interviews that get
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done uh. And certainly Jimmy Carter was was somebody who
ruffled feathers at one point when he was seen in
the Oval office wearing a a cardigan like a like
a cardigan sweater, uh and and and saying to people
when it came to the energy crisis, you know, just
knock knock down that, knock down the temperature in your house.
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I'm old enough to remember that because I was a
young person. I was a kid back in those days,
and I remember hearing the incredible anger that was happening
when you had to go odd and even days because
of the gas crisis, or you had to do you
know what, you were trying to get a house and
you had rates at twenty one percent and all this
sort of stuff. That time was a very, very desperate era. Now,
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certainly he did a lot to advance peace in the
Middle East, not the least of which Monocham Megan, and
of course anhwas Sadat, as they were able to bring
together Egypt and Israel for the first time in that
modern era, especially against the backdrop of what had happened
in sixty seven and those sorts of things that happened.
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The Camp David Accords are legendary and they were a huge,
huge accomplishment, especially when you consider that you had Jimmy
Carter shepherding this relationship and you had you know, an
more Sadat was not necessarily in the Western world mind view.
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Monock and Began was somebody who was a tough guy,
and to get those two together to shake hands, you know,
it became sort of the I think the word would
be the gold standard of that kind of a deal.
Getting them to shake hands, getting them to stop being
hostile between each country. That was a huge, huge move
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and it's something that people will study for the rest
of their lives. Now. At the same time, we watched
as the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, which set off the entire
array of future terrorism that was coming out of that area.
The Iranians certainly felt emboldened in the aftermath of the
Carter administration and they did a whole lot of nasty
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stuff in the Middle East. When Ronald Reagan was the president,
you had American hostages being taken, you had people being murdered.
You've had any number of things, including but not limited
to what you saw in Lebanon, and of course the
peacekeeping operation there that ended up with the murders of
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so many American military personnel, including Marines and Navy and
Army personnel. It was a chaotic world that Ronald Reagan
inherited in many ways, and there are a lot of
analogies that could be made about the restiveness of the
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Middle East that tied back to the Carter failings. It
was also Jimmy Carter who was the first person to
send out the big new Brazinski, who you know, as
the father of Mika Brazinsky over on the Morning Joe Show.
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He was the first person to go as an intermediary
and arm the Mujahadeen over in Afghanistan, giving them weapons,
giving them missiles, giving them the things that they needed.
And it's not lost on me that Jimmy Carter, who
pushes for that policy, ends up passing away just within
a couple of years of what Joe Biden failed with
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in Afghanistan with the pullout. So I think there are
a number of parallels in terms of failed foreign policy
that we could break down easily between Jimmy Carter and
Joe Biden. Jimmy Carter suffered with the energy crisis. Joe
Biden made the energy crisis much worse here by becoming
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a climatist, somebody who was buying into the religion of
the climate and having to spend four trillion dollars to
try to satisfy the likes of Bernie Sanders and of
course Gretath Tunberg. How dare you all of these people
have a through line and have a connection there. It
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is not lost on me that we look at Jimmy
Carter right alongside Joe Biden in the history books in
terms of failed foreign policy, that much is clear except
for the Camp David of courts. And then you see
very much a model of Ronald Reagan's strength pieace through
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strength with what you saw with Donald Trump in the
first term, and what's to be expected in the second term.
Now along the way, Joe Biden inserted himself yesterday and
came out and said, you know what, I have a regret.
I have regrets that I should not have quit the race.
I shouldn't have quit that race. I should have just
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stayed in there. I could have beaten Donald Trump. I
don't understand what the measure of that is. How can
he say that he was gonna do fine against Donald
Trump when we know by now that he is cognitively
in decline, came into office in decline, declined even more
on the way out the door, going all the way
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to the point of Robert Hurr coming in and saying,
he's a well meaning old man who's got a bad memory.
I mean, all of this is the chaos that that continues.
You had chaos in the late seventies, you had chaos
in this moment in time and between that we did
have two moments in history that were for the folks
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who wanted to be warriors and wanted to be strong.
So certainly we're very happy to take your phone calls
today eight hundred and two two two eight a two.
If you want to reflect back on any of these
stories that are moving, absolutely feel free to be a
part of that conversation. When we come back. I want
to talk about why it is that people are so
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absolutely not so when it comes to people who are
excellent people, people who are able to do things that
others can't. And I think that's a very important conversation
to have as we as we move on here across
the next few hours. There is a great deal of
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cynicism that is plaguing us in this country at this
time when we really should be exhibiting optimism, optimism for
what comes next and for how it is that we
get to drive that part of the conversation. You know,
it's important to look back, but also to look forward,
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because we will never get this time again, and there
is a ripe opportunity to finally accomplish some of the
biggest things going along the way. We'll be talking about
the big fight in the square. Audible over, the uh over,
the visas, and everything else is fair game on the program.
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My name is Brett Witterable. It's a pleasure to be
with you. I'm in for Clay and Buck. We'll be
back right after this.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim
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Speaker 2 (12:25):
And I am Brett witable in for Clay and Buck.
It's great to be with you guys today on this
beautiful Monday, almost New Year's. Let's jump out take some calls.
I want to talk to Ronnie and Florida. First up, Ronnie,
welcome to the program. Hello Ronnie, Ronnie going once, Yes,
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Ronnie going toys. All right, put Ronnie on hold. I
think he's obviously doing something. Let's let's jump out and
talk to Mike in Colorado. Mike, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Hi, I'm actually calling from Orlando, Florida. Megadido's you're doing
a great job filling it for Clay and Buck and
God bless Rush.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Thank you amen.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Okay, first of all, I was in high school during
the Iran hostage crisis and we had Iranian foreign exchange students,
and every week they were bad mouth in America. You
were talking about how they were emboldened. We had it
at a high school level, and every week one of
them was getting beaten to a pulp. It was it
was terrible what was going on.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I actually had a kid. I had a kid in
my elementary school who came in and he was he
had been an exchange student with his parents, and he
gave everybody the the international sign for goodbye, and it
was really it was a very hostile time. You're exactly
right about that, Mike.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah. And you know you talk about the international sign
for goodbye. Joe Biden has given us both fingers right
now on his way out. He doesn't care. In fact,
I even sent a congratulatory card to Jimmy Carbon's before
he passed rest his soul. I said, congratulations, you're no
longer the worst president in my lifetime. Now, let me
just share this one interesting fact. I mean, Clay and
Buck would appreciate this as presidential historians. Joe Biden has
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the same initials as the worst president on our history.
James Buchanan sat back, let the Southern States secede YEP,
argued he couldn't stop them, but they didn't have the
legal right to do so. Then writes a book bashing Trump.
Does this sound familiar with Biden blaming Trump for the border?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, look, that is that that is the deal. That's
that's what's happening. But we should always remember there's no
mistake that's been made at all. I thank you for
the call, Mike. There's no mistake. This has all been
done on purpose. Joe Biden, you know, he wanted to
open that border. He thought that that was the you know,
the the real way to kind of show people how
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you need to get things done and and to mix
that sort of stuff up. He I have no doubt
in my mind that he will go down much worse
than than the the what you saw with the Jimmy Carter.
I think Jimmy Carter, over the course of history, will
will be sort of looked at as somebody who was
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meant well. Okay, Joe Biden. I don't think Joe Biden
never meant well in terms of the policies that were
put together, and they were designed specifically to harm the
American people. Look, he barely made it to East Palestine, Ohio, Right,
He couldn't He couldn't go and see it, couldn't go
and do that. You saw our infrastructure crumbling with the
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with the bridge in Baltimore. You saw chaos in the
streets of our country. This is not a man that
was should ever have been anywhere near, anywhere near the
the levers of power. And he had people running the
operation for him. Alejandro majorcis the maybe the worst public
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servant in all of American history. That is how bad
a job he did doing what he did. Ron Klain,
running this stuff on autopilot, you name it. You cannot
give me one solid person that came out of that
administration that was anywhere approaching competent. And I can tell
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you who the worst of it was, Oh Jenny Grenholm
when she was interviewed by Bloomberg and they said, can
you get us more energy? And she said, oh, but
if I could get the energy, I just I don't know.
We can't do it. Chaos, misery, and malaise. That will
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be the title of the Biden administration. I'm Brent Whitterbule.
It is a pleasure to be with you here today.
Is we journey forward? Taking your phone calls at eight
hundred two two eight A two. It is the clay.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
And buckshot Clayton, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front
lines of truth. Now back to Brent Winterbowl, filling in
for Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Thanks so much for having me. It's a great day
in this country today because we can start to see
what can be. And I know I sound like Kamala
Harris when I say that, but honestly, I'm feeling good.
A great piece of a great bit of advice from
a guy named Rob Tuttle, but we'll just go call
him Rob. Rob says guest. A great idea. VP Vance
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should attend and welcome new citizens at the first possible
naturalization event to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration in
or near his hometown in Ohio. It would effectively end
the racism accusations. Another great opportunity to make their position clear. Look,
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I would love to see the vice president, the incoming
vice president go to these naturalization celebrations, and that's what
they should be because these are people who are following
the law. They ought to be supported in a big way.
That right, But you have a guy in the office
right now who just wants anybody coming into the country.
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In Joe Biden's mind, immigration is not something that should
be regarded as special. If you want to become an
American citizen, you need to make that move, and you
have to go all in, no matter what you have
to do, by all legal means, and it should be
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regarded as something special. Very few people, when you hear
them interviewed, say I want to be an American. They
say I want to immigrate to America, or I want
to get a job in America, or I want to
live in America. But we need to hear the words.
We need to hear the elocution of it by saying
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I want to be an American. And I think that's
what should happen at any at any given point, and
unfortunately we we don't do that. Scott Jennings, he's on
CNN over the weekend. I thought he made a tremendous
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point about Joe Biden and his administration. Cut five please
Oh wait, I'm sorry. Which hostages he got? He's gotten
a number of people home.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
He was there.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
There's still one hundred people over there, including some Americans. Look,
I think he's gonna I think he's gonna leave office
in disgrace the Hunter Biden pardon was disgraceful. He's going
to be remembered largely for inflation and for the disastrous
Afghanistan pull out. And I think as we continue to
we're just getting the first draft of this now, but
as we continue to learn about the massive cover up
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that went on, not about his health, but about his
mental acuity to cover that up, the efforts on that
were undertaken by the White House staff, by his family,
not in the last couple of months, but for all
four years.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think it's going to.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Be a really ugly chapter. It's a diminished presidency because
of it. And I think we still don't know the
full extent of what they did to try to hide
what they've been doing over in the West.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
He's exactly right. And by the way, President Trump is
going to have to dig out from this mess. What
Joe Biden promised, offered, all that sort of stuff, it's
going to be it's going to take a herculean effort
to get us back to the place we were just
four years ago. Let's jump out on the phones and
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check in with Edna in Florida. Edna, welcome to the program.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much, and God
bless Rush in the heaven.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
My concern is about the pardon of Hunter add in tonight.
Nothing's going to happen, right and all of these commutations
and parts for the other people. If he wasn't declared
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mentally sit to stand trial for what he was charged
with in Robert Hurst's report, then how can he possibly
be considered cognitively sound to give these commutations? Is there
going to be a Senate hearing on it or a
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House hearing? You know who's going to question it? Because
if he can't, if he's cognitively impaired, he's cognitively impaired.
You can't be sound and able to make logical decisions
and be declared unable to stand trial. Right.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well, here here's the thing. I think Robert Hurr certainly
got the message across to the to the entire country
because he came out with his report and he released
it and went public. And I remember that night when
Joe Biden was at the was in the White House,
how angry he was. He was furious that that report
had come out. But the fact of the matter is
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it's a truthful report. None of that stuff that's in
that report was a lie or made up. It was
just the circumstances that Robert Herr kind of clarified as
to why he wasn't charged. And by the way, Merrick
Garland was never going to let him be charged. There
was absolutely no possible way for that to happen. So
what did Robert Hurr do? Basically, Robert Herr functioned as
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a whistleblower. He whistled blew on Joe Biden and said,
listen is not ready for prime time. Unfortunately, there was
an off ramp at that point, right he could have
people in the administration could have gotten together and did
the twenty fifth Amendment thing that they were always threatening
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to do against Trump in that first term. We need
the twenty fifth Amendment. We need the twenty fifth Amendment.
But nobody wanted to pull that trigger. Why likely to be
because the Biden family themselves, Jill and the rest of
the folks in that relationship. We're not going to get
rid of their meal ticket. Somebody said last week, and
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I'm at a loss for trying to remember who it was,
somebody said last week that the Bidens are all about
burning it all down now, burning down all the norms,
all the stuff because they're angry over what happened. And
the single worst thing that Joe Biden could have said
in the last twenty four to forty eight hours was
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I shouldn't have gotten out of the race. That makes
it even worse because what he does is he seedes
the power of the presidency to former President Barack Obama,
Kamala Harris, and George Clooney. He was the most powerful
man in the world. He could have said no. He
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could have said no, no matter what kind of a
tantrum Nancy Pelosi was having, an old Obama was having,
and Harris was having and Clooney was having. He could
have he could have stayed. He could have said, look,
Donald Trump is so dangerous. I'm not saying I believe this,
but he could. He's so dangerous. Only I can stop him.
And if Donald Trump got elected, he would have gone
down as somebody who said, Okay, he gave us all,
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what can we do? This is the problem. This is
the problem with this administration because they're a mess, and
so can you imagine what is coming next? This is
this is going to be something that I think is
going to be shocking, and the way it's gonna happen
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is once Trump gets inaugurated, Once President elect Donald Trump
gets inaugurated, and people like Tom Holman are out there
digging through all the stuff that's gone on. I think
the things that we're gonna learn J six, the bi
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the failings of our state department. I think all of
the stuff that is going to come out of this
is going to have people's hair on fire. I think
it's going to be reveal after reveal after reveal after reveal,
each and every moment. So stay tuned. I think we
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know very little right now, and we are going to
know a whole lot more between now and the midterm
elections in twenty twenty six. The twenty twenty five year
will be the year in which everything gets revealed and
the whistleblowers come out, and the people come out and
they give the real story about why Joe Biden wasn't
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ready for this job. The books will be written, the
articles will be written, the debates will take place on TV,
and that is something in a very dangerous world that
we could never allow to have. And again absolutely not
heads up coming up in the beginning of this next hour,
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I've got a great friend of mine. Scott McEwen. He's
the author of American Sniper and that story and that
movie is ten years old now, and we're going to
have a conversation about a number of things, but mostly
about American Sniper. We're certainly excited to have him come
on the program. My name is Brett Witterable. It's a
pleasure to be with you here on the Clay and
Buck Show. Eight hundred and two two eight A two.
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We'll be back right after this.
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Speaker 2 (26:44):
And I am Brett Witterable. It's great to be with
you on the Clay and Buck Show here today, don't
forget top. The next hour we'll be joined by Scott McEwen.
Great stuff coming his way to you. Let's go to
Mike in Colorado. Mike, welcome to the program.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Thank you. Bred as you suggested earlier, and a tease,
I agree the condemnation of meritocracy, strong work ethics, and
earning a's in school. I believe it is a major
propaganda plank of the radical left as they pandered to
the gullible. That's a large part of their power base.
That's how we got DEI. I'm just looking forward in
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twenty two days to restore the American dream and have
Americans seeing the glasses half full again.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
That's right. And do you know what the main problem
is why these people get so angry and fear excellence
and all that sort of stuff. Do you know what
it is that it ultimately comes down to. It comes
down to self doubt. They are fearful to take the chance,
they are fearful to pick up the banner and lead.
So what they'll just do is attack everybody else who
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is out there doing well. It's not a normal reality
to have everybody angry at anybody who is successful. My gosh,
that that that's a terrible way to live. That's a
that's a gangster mentality. And that is the that's the
fundamental problem. They have self doubt, right, They're they're afraid
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they'll get wrong. They're they're afraid they're you know, they're
they're not good enough, imposter syndrome, all that sort of stuff,
fear of failure, perfectionism, whatever it is. That is the
thing that holds people back more than anything, and it's
it's it's just horrible, Mike.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Well, it is, and they're incapable of independent thought. And
as an educator, I do know a large part of
IQ tests involves being able to sink on your own
and not just be a blind follower.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
That's exactly right. Great stuff, Mike, Thank you so much
for being out there, and have a wonderful uh new
year coming coming down the pike. Here, let's talk to
Douglas in Pennsylvania. Douglas, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
Hi, Brett, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Thanks for calling.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
I just like to comment and a few of the
things I remember living through the Carter administration. Sure one
was waiting in line for long gas lines.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
When we had the.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Gas shortage, we had drive fifty five, we had our
speed limit reduced. And then I remember the yellow ribbons
everywhere because Bruce Langdon, who was the ambassador in Iran,
he lived three doors for me, so our neighborhood was
covered with yek ribbons.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
And I remember the interest rates were just through the roof.
And I can only say that I was very glad
to see Ronald Wegg and come back, you know, come
and be the president in nineteen eighty you.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Know what else, you know what else we always forget
about too. We had the moment in time where we
could have done great things when it came to energy,
and you had the China Syndrome movie come out, and
suddenly you can't have any nuclear react no nukes, no nukes,
no nuclear reactors. You can't get affordable clean energy. We're
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not going to do that. That was one of the
other ugly ones that I remember from Three Mile Island.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
I think Carter was a very good man. I really
could admire what he did after his presidency, but I
think he was a fairly impotent and a week president
who was unable to do what he needed to do
in that timeframe. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I agree with you. Great great stuff there, Douglas. I
appreciate you reaching out from the Keystone State. Thanks so much,
and look forward to speaking with you again. Let's go
to Bill in Wisconsin. Bill, welcome to the show. Heh okay,
hear me, Yes, sir, you sound great.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Oh all right, how you doing today?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm doing great? Thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Okay, So I talked to your screen caller hopefully I
can express this in an intelligent way. I like Trump
and Elon Musk and Levage because I think this country
should be run, you know, on a business type mentality,
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which I think what happens. What happened is there's way
too much emotion involved in the decision making. And that
to me, you know, as a business I mean, I'm
fifty five years old. I'm not you know, I haven't
been around that long. But I just I just think
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that people are acting and reacting on emotion rather than
on you know, if you're a business owner, you have
to make tough decisions, you know, and people get you know,
can I say screwed on the air?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, you just did go ahead.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Sometimes, you know, I mean, and that's just the way
it is. Sometimes you make it, sometimes you don't, right, Okay,
let me yeah, no, no, no, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It makes that's what you're saying. I appreciate the call. Bill.
Here's the thing I would say about that, though. All Right,
everybody is risking something in some way. All Right, you
vote for the wrong guy or the wrong gal, you
throw in with the wrong investment firm or any of
that kind of stuff. Right, there is no guarantee because
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humans are running the show, and humans are flawed people.
They're not perfect people. Now, to go back to the point,
I would say, listen, I respect people who try and fail.
Look at Elon Musk. Nothing he's done has been guaranteed.
He's effectively a self made person, and he gets a
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lot of he gets a lot of people going after him.
So what has he done? He's created Tesla, he's got
the Boring Company, he's got rockets going up, he's got
all this stuff happening. And then you look at a
hearing pick, a hearing pick, any congress person, could be
a could be a lefty, could be somebody else. They're
gonna come in there and they're gonna drill them, and
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they're gonna say to him, listen, you're no good, you're terrible,
you're awful. And he's gonna look at him and go, well,
that's your opinion. But what have you done, Congressman so
and so? What have you done? What have you pulled off?
What have you accomplished? What are you proud of? Then
it gets difficult, Then it gets difficult. All right, coming
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up in just a couple of moments, we've got Scott
McEwan coming by. We'll be taking your phone calls as well.
That is our number one. Done, we got more straight ahead.
I am Brettwoitable. You're listening to The clay Buck Show
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
And it is a pleasure to be with you today. Big,
big news moving. Just in the last couple of hours,
President Trump has endorsed Mike Johnson as the Speaker of
the House. Questions now abound. Will there be a challenger?
We'll keep an eye on that. Our telephone number for
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It is a pleasure to be able to spend time
with you here today. So President elect Donald Trump endorsed
Mike Johnson this morning, after leaving Johnson twisting in the
wind for eleven days. That's the write up over at
by Bradley Jay. Over at bright Bark, Trump posted a
two hundred and thirty two word soliloquy on truth social
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touting his elector and attacking Democrats for weaponizing the government
against him. At the very end, he endorsed Johnson for speaker,
using what this has described as a boilerplate endorsement quote,
let's not blow this great opportunity which we have been given.
The American people need immediate, all caps relief from all
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the destructive policies in the last administration. Speaker Mike Johnson
is a good, hard working religious man. He will do
the right thing and we will continue to win. Mike
has my complete and total endorsement. MAGA three exclamation points.
So you know, you've had this scurrying back and forth
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and this you know, drama back and forth over the
last couple of weeks, and now President Trump has come
out and said, look, he's the guy. I was watching
a number of interviews earlier today. Victoria Sparks was one
of the people that was being interviewed. Mike Lawler was
being interviewed. And certainly they're you know, they're from different
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sort of orientations on conservatism, but these folks were abundantly
clear that yeah, maybe we should have somebody run, But
who's the person going to be? They would not They
didn't have a name, they didn't attach your name. And
now it waits to be seen as to what's going
to happen as a result of this process, because will
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somebody come in at the last possible moment and say, listen,
I don't want Mike Johnson in there. We're gonna We're
gonna do them in. It's not gonna work. Now. There
are you know, reports out there that indicate that they
have a crued enough support for him to take the cavil,
but nothing is ever settled in Washington, d C. Until
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it's actually settled, and that's that's something you can absolutely guarantee.
So we will keep an eye on that in a
big way. Obviously, the big news as you woke up
this morning and even from yesterday, the passing of President
Jimmy Carter at one hundred years of age. He had
been in in hospice care for the last almost two
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years and he passed away yesterday. Accolades kind of mixed
with him based on what happened when he was, you know,
held hostage along with the American people metaphorically speaking with
the with the hostage crisis that took place there in
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Tehran four hundred and forty four days. It was only
after Ronald Reagan came in to the office that the
hostages were released, and he made that announcement at that
moment that they had that they had been released. Jimmy
Carter is somebody that many people will say was a
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very decent man, a man of great faith. But you
have to also understand something here. And I'm not trying
to throw a wet blanket on this, but Jimmy Carter
was also a very strong He had he had very
strong techniques that he could use. He understood how you
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could play the heartstrings of the American people. And I'm
not I'm not saying that that he was being cynical
about it. But anybody who gets into the job of
being the president of the United States, you have a
lot of theatrics that come with that, no matter who
it is that's running, right, no matter who who that's
running uh, pictures that get released, uh, interviews that get
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done uh. And certainly Jimmy Carter was was somebody who
ruffled feathers at one point when he was seen in
the Oval office wearing a a cardigan like a like
a cardigan sweater, uh and and and saying to people
when it came to the energy crisis, you know, just
knock knock down that, knock down the temperature in your house.
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I'm old enough to remember that because I was a
young person. I was a kid back in those days,
and I remember hearing the incredible anger that was happening
when you had to go odd and even days because
of the gas crisis, or you had to do you
know what, you were trying to get a house and
you had rates at twenty one percent and all this
sort of stuff. That time was a very, very desperate era. Now,
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certainly he did a lot to advance peace in the
Middle East, not the least of which Monocham Megan, and
of course anhwas Sadat, as they were able to bring
together Egypt and Israel for the first time in that
modern era, especially against the backdrop of what had happened
in sixty seven and those sorts of things that happened.
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The Camp David Accords are legendary and they were a huge,
huge accomplishment, especially when you consider that you had Jimmy
Carter shepherding this relationship and you had you know, an
more Sadat was not necessarily in the Western world mind view.
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Monock and Began was somebody who was a tough guy,
and to get those two together to shake hands, you know,
it became sort of the I think the word would
be the gold standard of that kind of a deal.
Getting them to shake hands, getting them to stop being
hostile between each country. That was a huge, huge move
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and it's something that people will study for the rest
of their lives. Now. At the same time, we watched
as the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, which set off the entire
array of future terrorism that was coming out of that area.
The Iranians certainly felt emboldened in the aftermath of the
Carter administration and they did a whole lot of nasty
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stuff in the Middle East. When Ronald Reagan was the president,
you had American hostages being taken, you had people being murdered.
You've had any number of things, including but not limited
to what you saw in Lebanon, and of course the
peacekeeping operation there that ended up with the murders of
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so many American military personnel, including Marines and Navy and
Army personnel. It was a chaotic world that Ronald Reagan
inherited in many ways, and there are a lot of
analogies that could be made about the restiveness of the
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Middle East that tied back to the Carter failings. It
was also Jimmy Carter who was the first person to
send out the big new Brazinski, who you know, as
the father of Mika Brazinsky over on the Morning Joe Show.
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He was the first person to go as an intermediary
and arm the Mujahadeen over in Afghanistan, giving them weapons,
giving them missiles, giving them the things that they needed.
And it's not lost on me that Jimmy Carter, who
pushes for that policy, ends up passing away just within
a couple of years of what Joe Biden failed with
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in Afghanistan with the pullout. So I think there are
a number of parallels in terms of failed foreign policy
that we could break down easily between Jimmy Carter and
Joe Biden. Jimmy Carter suffered with the energy crisis. Joe
Biden made the energy crisis much worse here by becoming
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a climatist, somebody who was buying into the religion of
the climate and having to spend four trillion dollars to
try to satisfy the likes of Bernie Sanders and of
course Gretath Tunberg. How dare you all of these people
have a through line and have a connection there. It
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is not lost on me that we look at Jimmy
Carter right alongside Joe Biden in the history books in
terms of failed foreign policy, that much is clear except
for the Camp David of courts. And then you see
very much a model of Ronald Reagan's strength pieace through
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strength with what you saw with Donald Trump in the
first term, and what's to be expected in the second term.
Now along the way, Joe Biden inserted himself yesterday and
came out and said, you know what, I have a regret.
I have regrets that I should not have quit the race.
I shouldn't have quit that race. I should have just
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stayed in there. I could have beaten Donald Trump. I
don't understand what the measure of that is. How can
he say that he was gonna do fine against Donald
Trump when we know by now that he is cognitively
in decline, came into office in decline, declined even more
on the way out the door, going all the way
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to the point of Robert Hurr coming in and saying,
he's a well meaning old man who's got a bad memory.
I mean, all of this is the chaos that that continues.
You had chaos in the late seventies, you had chaos
in this moment in time and between that we did
have two moments in history that were for the folks
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who wanted to be warriors and wanted to be strong.
So certainly we're very happy to take your phone calls
today eight hundred and two two two eight a two.
If you want to reflect back on any of these
stories that are moving, absolutely feel free to be a
part of that conversation. When we come back. I want
to talk about why it is that people are so
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absolutely not so when it comes to people who are
excellent people, people who are able to do things that
others can't. And I think that's a very important conversation
to have as we as we move on here across
the next few hours. There is a great deal of
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cynicism that is plaguing us in this country at this
time when we really should be exhibiting optimism, optimism for
what comes next and for how it is that we
get to drive that part of the conversation. You know,
it's important to look back, but also to look forward,
(11:45):
because we will never get this time again, and there
is a ripe opportunity to finally accomplish some of the
biggest things going along the way. We'll be talking about
the big fight in the square. Audible over, the uh over,
the visas, and everything else is fair game on the program.
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My name is Brett Witterable. It's a pleasure to be
with you. I'm in for Clay and Buck. We'll be
back right after this.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim
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Speaker 2 (12:25):
And I am Brett witable in for Clay and Buck.
It's great to be with you guys today on this
beautiful Monday, almost New Year's. Let's jump out take some calls.
I want to talk to Ronnie and Florida. First up, Ronnie,
welcome to the program. Hello Ronnie, Ronnie going once, Yes,
(12:46):
Ronnie going toys. All right, put Ronnie on hold. I
think he's obviously doing something. Let's let's jump out and
talk to Mike in Colorado. Mike, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Hi, I'm actually calling from Orlando, Florida. Megadido's you're doing
a great job filling it for Clay and Buck and
God bless Rush.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Thank you amen.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Okay, first of all, I was in high school during
the Iran hostage crisis and we had Iranian foreign exchange students,
and every week they were bad mouth in America. You
were talking about how they were emboldened. We had it
at a high school level, and every week one of
them was getting beaten to a pulp. It was it
was terrible what was going on.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I actually had a kid. I had a kid in
my elementary school who came in and he was he
had been an exchange student with his parents, and he
gave everybody the the international sign for goodbye, and it
was really it was a very hostile time. You're exactly
right about that, Mike.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah. And you know you talk about the international sign
for goodbye. Joe Biden has given us both fingers right
now on his way out. He doesn't care. In fact,
I even sent a congratulatory card to Jimmy Carbon's before
he passed rest his soul. I said, congratulations, you're no
longer the worst president in my lifetime. Now, let me
just share this one interesting fact. I mean, Clay and
Buck would appreciate this as presidential historians. Joe Biden has
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the same initials as the worst president on our history.
James Buchanan sat back, let the Southern States secede YEP,
argued he couldn't stop them, but they didn't have the
legal right to do so. Then writes a book bashing Trump.
Does this sound familiar with Biden blaming Trump for the border?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, look, that is that that is the deal. That's
that's what's happening. But we should always remember there's no
mistake that's been made at all. I thank you for
the call, Mike. There's no mistake. This has all been
done on purpose. Joe Biden, you know, he wanted to
open that border. He thought that that was the you know,
the the real way to kind of show people how
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you need to get things done and and to mix
that sort of stuff up. He I have no doubt
in my mind that he will go down much worse
than than the the what you saw with the Jimmy Carter.
I think Jimmy Carter, over the course of history, will
will be sort of looked at as somebody who was
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meant well. Okay, Joe Biden. I don't think Joe Biden
never meant well in terms of the policies that were
put together, and they were designed specifically to harm the
American people. Look, he barely made it to East Palestine, Ohio, Right,
He couldn't He couldn't go and see it, couldn't go
and do that. You saw our infrastructure crumbling with the
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with the bridge in Baltimore. You saw chaos in the
streets of our country. This is not a man that
was should ever have been anywhere near, anywhere near the
the levers of power. And he had people running the
operation for him. Alejandro majorcis the maybe the worst public
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servant in all of American history. That is how bad
a job he did doing what he did. Ron Klain,
running this stuff on autopilot, you name it. You cannot
give me one solid person that came out of that
administration that was anywhere approaching competent. And I can tell
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you who the worst of it was, Oh Jenny Grenholm
when she was interviewed by Bloomberg and they said, can
you get us more energy? And she said, oh, but
if I could get the energy, I just I don't know.
We can't do it. Chaos, misery, and malaise. That will
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be the title of the Biden administration. I'm Brent Whitterbule.
It is a pleasure to be with you here today.
Is we journey forward? Taking your phone calls at eight
hundred two two eight A two. It is the clay.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
And buckshot Clayton, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front
lines of truth. Now back to Brent Winterbowl, filling in
for Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Thanks so much for having me. It's a great day
in this country today because we can start to see
what can be. And I know I sound like Kamala
Harris when I say that, but honestly, I'm feeling good.
A great piece of a great bit of advice from
a guy named Rob Tuttle, but we'll just go call
him Rob. Rob says guest. A great idea. VP Vance
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should attend and welcome new citizens at the first possible
naturalization event to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration in
or near his hometown in Ohio. It would effectively end
the racism accusations. Another great opportunity to make their position clear. Look,
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I would love to see the vice president, the incoming
vice president go to these naturalization celebrations, and that's what
they should be because these are people who are following
the law. They ought to be supported in a big way.
That right, But you have a guy in the office
right now who just wants anybody coming into the country.
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In Joe Biden's mind, immigration is not something that should
be regarded as special. If you want to become an
American citizen, you need to make that move, and you
have to go all in, no matter what you have
to do, by all legal means, and it should be
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regarded as something special. Very few people, when you hear
them interviewed, say I want to be an American. They
say I want to immigrate to America, or I want
to get a job in America, or I want to
live in America. But we need to hear the words.
We need to hear the elocution of it by saying
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I want to be an American. And I think that's
what should happen at any at any given point, and
unfortunately we we don't do that. Scott Jennings, he's on
CNN over the weekend. I thought he made a tremendous
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point about Joe Biden and his administration. Cut five please
Oh wait, I'm sorry. Which hostages he got? He's gotten
a number of people home.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
He was there.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
There's still one hundred people over there, including some Americans. Look,
I think he's gonna I think he's gonna leave office
in disgrace the Hunter Biden pardon was disgraceful. He's going
to be remembered largely for inflation and for the disastrous
Afghanistan pull out. And I think as we continue to
we're just getting the first draft of this now, but
as we continue to learn about the massive cover up
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that went on, not about his health, but about his
mental acuity to cover that up, the efforts on that
were undertaken by the White House staff, by his family,
not in the last couple of months, but for all
four years.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think it's going to.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Be a really ugly chapter. It's a diminished presidency because
of it. And I think we still don't know the
full extent of what they did to try to hide
what they've been doing over in the West.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
He's exactly right. And by the way, President Trump is
going to have to dig out from this mess. What
Joe Biden promised, offered, all that sort of stuff, it's
going to be it's going to take a herculean effort
to get us back to the place we were just
four years ago. Let's jump out on the phones and
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check in with Edna in Florida. Edna, welcome to the program.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much, and God
bless Rush in the heaven.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
My concern is about the pardon of Hunter add in tonight.
Nothing's going to happen, right and all of these commutations
and parts for the other people. If he wasn't declared
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mentally sit to stand trial for what he was charged
with in Robert Hurst's report, then how can he possibly
be considered cognitively sound to give these commutations? Is there
going to be a Senate hearing on it or a
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House hearing? You know who's going to question it? Because
if he can't, if he's cognitively impaired, he's cognitively impaired.
You can't be sound and able to make logical decisions
and be declared unable to stand trial. Right.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well, here here's the thing. I think Robert Hurr certainly
got the message across to the to the entire country
because he came out with his report and he released
it and went public. And I remember that night when
Joe Biden was at the was in the White House,
how angry he was. He was furious that that report
had come out. But the fact of the matter is
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it's a truthful report. None of that stuff that's in
that report was a lie or made up. It was
just the circumstances that Robert Herr kind of clarified as
to why he wasn't charged. And by the way, Merrick
Garland was never going to let him be charged. There
was absolutely no possible way for that to happen. So
what did Robert Hurr do? Basically, Robert Herr functioned as
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a whistleblower. He whistled blew on Joe Biden and said,
listen is not ready for prime time. Unfortunately, there was
an off ramp at that point, right he could have
people in the administration could have gotten together and did
the twenty fifth Amendment thing that they were always threatening
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to do against Trump in that first term. We need
the twenty fifth Amendment. We need the twenty fifth Amendment.
But nobody wanted to pull that trigger. Why likely to be
because the Biden family themselves, Jill and the rest of
the folks in that relationship. We're not going to get
rid of their meal ticket. Somebody said last week, and
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I'm at a loss for trying to remember who it was,
somebody said last week that the Bidens are all about
burning it all down now, burning down all the norms,
all the stuff because they're angry over what happened. And
the single worst thing that Joe Biden could have said
in the last twenty four to forty eight hours was
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I shouldn't have gotten out of the race. That makes
it even worse because what he does is he seedes
the power of the presidency to former President Barack Obama,
Kamala Harris, and George Clooney. He was the most powerful
man in the world. He could have said no. He
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could have said no, no matter what kind of a
tantrum Nancy Pelosi was having, an old Obama was having,
and Harris was having and Clooney was having. He could
have he could have stayed. He could have said, look,
Donald Trump is so dangerous. I'm not saying I believe this,
but he could. He's so dangerous. Only I can stop him.
And if Donald Trump got elected, he would have gone
down as somebody who said, Okay, he gave us all,
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what can we do? This is the problem. This is
the problem with this administration because they're a mess, and
so can you imagine what is coming next? This is
this is going to be something that I think is
going to be shocking, and the way it's gonna happen
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is once Trump gets inaugurated, Once President elect Donald Trump
gets inaugurated, and people like Tom Holman are out there
digging through all the stuff that's gone on. I think
the things that we're gonna learn J six, the bi
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the failings of our state department. I think all of
the stuff that is going to come out of this
is going to have people's hair on fire. I think
it's going to be reveal after reveal after reveal after reveal,
each and every moment. So stay tuned. I think we
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know very little right now, and we are going to
know a whole lot more between now and the midterm
elections in twenty twenty six. The twenty twenty five year
will be the year in which everything gets revealed and
the whistleblowers come out, and the people come out and
they give the real story about why Joe Biden wasn't
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ready for this job. The books will be written, the
articles will be written, the debates will take place on TV,
and that is something in a very dangerous world that
we could never allow to have. And again absolutely not
heads up coming up in the beginning of this next hour,
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I've got a great friend of mine. Scott McEwen. He's
the author of American Sniper and that story and that
movie is ten years old now, and we're going to
have a conversation about a number of things, but mostly
about American Sniper. We're certainly excited to have him come
on the program. My name is Brett Witterable. It's a
pleasure to be with you here on the Clay and
Buck Show. Eight hundred and two two eight A two.
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We'll be back right after this.
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And I am Brett Witterable. It's great to be with
you on the Clay and Buck Show here today, don't
forget top. The next hour we'll be joined by Scott McEwen.
Great stuff coming his way to you. Let's go to
Mike in Colorado. Mike, welcome to the program.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Thank you. Bred as you suggested earlier, and a tease,
I agree the condemnation of meritocracy, strong work ethics, and
earning a's in school. I believe it is a major
propaganda plank of the radical left as they pandered to
the gullible. That's a large part of their power base.
That's how we got DEI. I'm just looking forward in
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twenty two days to restore the American dream and have
Americans seeing the glasses half full again.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
That's right. And do you know what the main problem
is why these people get so angry and fear excellence
and all that sort of stuff. Do you know what
it is that it ultimately comes down to. It comes
down to self doubt. They are fearful to take the chance,
they are fearful to pick up the banner and lead.
So what they'll just do is attack everybody else who
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is out there doing well. It's not a normal reality
to have everybody angry at anybody who is successful. My gosh,
that that that's a terrible way to live. That's a
that's a gangster mentality. And that is the that's the
fundamental problem. They have self doubt, right, They're they're afraid
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they'll get wrong. They're they're afraid they're you know, they're
they're not good enough, imposter syndrome, all that sort of stuff,
fear of failure, perfectionism, whatever it is. That is the
thing that holds people back more than anything, and it's
it's it's just horrible, Mike.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Well, it is, and they're incapable of independent thought. And
as an educator, I do know a large part of
IQ tests involves being able to sink on your own
and not just be a blind follower.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
That's exactly right. Great stuff, Mike, Thank you so much
for being out there, and have a wonderful uh new
year coming coming down the pike. Here, let's talk to
Douglas in Pennsylvania. Douglas, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
Hi, Brett, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Thanks for calling.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
I just like to comment and a few of the
things I remember living through the Carter administration. Sure one
was waiting in line for long gas lines.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
When we had the.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Gas shortage, we had drive fifty five, we had our
speed limit reduced. And then I remember the yellow ribbons
everywhere because Bruce Langdon, who was the ambassador in Iran,
he lived three doors for me, so our neighborhood was
covered with yek ribbons.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
And I remember the interest rates were just through the roof.
And I can only say that I was very glad
to see Ronald Wegg and come back, you know, come
and be the president in nineteen eighty you.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Know what else, you know what else we always forget
about too. We had the moment in time where we
could have done great things when it came to energy,
and you had the China Syndrome movie come out, and
suddenly you can't have any nuclear react no nukes, no nukes,
no nuclear reactors. You can't get affordable clean energy. We're
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not going to do that. That was one of the
other ugly ones that I remember from Three Mile Island.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
I think Carter was a very good man. I really
could admire what he did after his presidency, but I
think he was a fairly impotent and a week president
who was unable to do what he needed to do
in that timeframe. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I agree with you. Great great stuff there, Douglas. I
appreciate you reaching out from the Keystone State. Thanks so much,
and look forward to speaking with you again. Let's go
to Bill in Wisconsin. Bill, welcome to the show. Heh okay,
hear me, Yes, sir, you sound great.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Oh all right, how you doing today?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm doing great? Thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Okay, So I talked to your screen caller hopefully I
can express this in an intelligent way. I like Trump
and Elon Musk and Levage because I think this country
should be run, you know, on a business type mentality,
(31:07):
which I think what happens. What happened is there's way
too much emotion involved in the decision making. And that
to me, you know, as a business I mean, I'm
fifty five years old. I'm not you know, I haven't
been around that long. But I just I just think
(31:29):
that people are acting and reacting on emotion rather than
on you know, if you're a business owner, you have
to make tough decisions, you know, and people get you know,
can I say screwed on the air?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, you just did go ahead.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Sometimes, you know, I mean, and that's just the way
it is. Sometimes you make it, sometimes you don't, right, Okay,
let me yeah, no, no, no, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It makes that's what you're saying. I appreciate the call. Bill.
Here's the thing I would say about that, though. All Right,
everybody is risking something in some way. All Right, you
vote for the wrong guy or the wrong gal, you
throw in with the wrong investment firm or any of
that kind of stuff. Right, there is no guarantee because
(32:20):
humans are running the show, and humans are flawed people.
They're not perfect people. Now, to go back to the point,
I would say, listen, I respect people who try and fail.
Look at Elon Musk. Nothing he's done has been guaranteed.
He's effectively a self made person, and he gets a
(32:43):
lot of he gets a lot of people going after him.
So what has he done? He's created Tesla, he's got
the Boring Company, he's got rockets going up, he's got
all this stuff happening. And then you look at a
hearing pick, a hearing pick, any congress person, could be
a could be a lefty, could be somebody else. They're
gonna come in there and they're gonna drill them, and
(33:04):
they're gonna say to him, listen, you're no good, you're terrible,
you're awful. And he's gonna look at him and go, well,
that's your opinion. But what have you done, Congressman so
and so? What have you done? What have you pulled off?
What have you accomplished? What are you proud of? Then
it gets difficult, Then it gets difficult. All right, coming
(33:28):
up in just a couple of moments, we've got Scott
McEwan coming by. We'll be taking your phone calls as well.
That is our number one. Done, we got more straight ahead.
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