January 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Legacy media still controls the news cycle, but they don’t have the same power. Julie Kelly on the 4-year anniversary of J6. Sunny Hostin compares J6 to the Holocaust. Did Ashli Babbitt get justice?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Buck is down with the flu. He is back from Spain.
They had a fabulous trip there. I'm actually super excited
to hear what his review of Spain is. But we
got some great news for all of you. The three
hundred and twelve electoral vote landslide of Donald Trump, the
biggest landslide Republican election win since nineteen eighty eight, will
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soon be official four years after January sixth of twenty
twenty one. And I want to discuss this with you guys,
because I do think it's important. Because one of the
last powers of the legacy media, and it frustrates me
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to no end, is they still can all move in
unison and decide that they want to try and make
a story pop.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That is the power.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
In any given day, there are a thousand stories that
could percolate to the front page of the New York
Times or the Washington Post, or be the lead on ABC, CBS, NBC,
And the decision of which of those stories you decide
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to feature is actually, I would argue, the last power
of the legacy media. And they decided all together as
one that they were going to treat January sixth, twenty
twenty one as one of the most import important historic
dates in the history of the United States. And they
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did it despite the fact that they had spent six
months ignoring the BLM riots, which were far more consequential,
far more deadly, far more destructive, and in my opinion,
far more significant than anything that happened on January sixth
of twenty twenty one. And it wasn't some sort of
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surprise about how exactly they did that. They calculated made
a decision that they were going to brand January sixth,
twenty twenty one as the worst day in America since
the Civil War. Now, I want to play this for
you because this is something that they were still saying
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as recently as September. I'm sure you can find people
on the left on MSNBC and CNN saying that today
on the four year anniversary. But this, to me, Kamala
Harris said it in the debate against Trump in September
of last year. To me, this was one of the
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opportunities Trump had to deliver a knockout in response. This
was on September tenth of twenty twenty one. Kamala Harris
on January sixth, and the direct attack on American democracy.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Listen Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our
democracy since the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, Trump should have expected this, and this was one
of the criticisms.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
When Buck and I talked about it the next day,
I said, Man, I wish that he had delivered an
absolutely devastating CounterPunch here, because she said that on September
tenth of twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty
four years all mixed up. She said that the day
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before the anniversary of nine to eleven, that evening before
nine to eleven, Trump had, as a New Yorker and
unbelievable opportunity to follow up and just ask Kamala Harris directly.
I'm sorry he could have pivoted and said we had
six months of BLM riots. They were far worse and
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more devastating to our country. And Kamala, you bailed out
the purpose traders of those crimes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You raise money to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
But I would just like to ask you a direct
question here and now, do you actually think January sixth
was worse than nine to eleven, because tomorrow is the
twenty third anniversary of nine to eleven, and you just
stood here on the stage and said January sixth was
the worst day for America since the Civil War. I'm
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going to get two pretty awful days. First, is it
worse than nine to eleven?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Second?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Is it worse than Pearl Harbor, the attack that took
us into World War Two? Was January sixth worse than
the Great Depression? Was it worse than the Oklahoma City bombing?
Was it worse than? I could name like twenty different
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things that are awful that have happened to the United States,
including your withdrawal from Afghanistan, which cost us thirteen Keen
soldiers lives because of your incompetence. The only person who
died on January sixth was Ashley Babbitt. Now, there were
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some police officers who committed suicide after which Merrick Garland
is still trying to argue was in some way connected
to jan six And there.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Were some of the protesters.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think a couple of them actually had heart attacks
during the course of the protest and of the jan
sixth events. But the idea that they've tried to turn
this into the worst day in America since the Civil War,
and Joe Biden didn't even make it close. I mean,
he made that argument quite clearly when he went down
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to Georgia and said, you're either on the side of
Confederate President Jefferson Davis or you're on the side of
America over the bill that they passed to strengthen voting
in Georgia. And oh, by the way, since that bill passed,
they've actually had record turnout in twenty twenty two in
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the off year election, and in twenty twenty four in
the presidential election. More people voted in Georgia in twenty
twenty four than voted in Georgia in twenty twenty Joe
Biden called it not even Jim Crow, remember he called
it Jim Eagle. All of the data refutes this. Anyone
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with a functional brain who has ever studied history recognizes
how crazy it is. Yet they still are trying to
make that argument, including today Sonny Houston, the dumbest person
on television on a daily basis. She is my gold
Medal winner for stupidity on daily television anywhere in America.
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She said, today still the worst days since the Civil War.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Argument. Listen, I think we need.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
To find moral clarity, you know, in this country.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And I just.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Remember after January sixth, you had someone like Mitch McConnell
placing the blame on January sixth, where it belongs squarely
on Donald Trump's shoulders. And then you started seeing people
backtrack that and losing their moral center. You had Condoleeza
Rice I believe, on this very show saying, you know,
we need to move on from January sixth. I say, no,
you don't move on, because January sixth was an atrocity.
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It was one of the worst moments in American history.
When you think about the worst moments in American history,
you know, like World War Two, things that happened, you know,
like the Holocaust, chattel slavery. We need to never forget
because past becomes prologue if you forget any race.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
She compared January sixth to the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The Holocaust, I.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Mean to these people have working brains, six million Jews
exterminated in concentration camps for years by Nazis, and she
just compared that on the air to January sixth. She
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is the dumbest person to ever get a paycheck on
a daily television show of all time.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
The Holocaust, let me come on. And slavery, first of all,
don't even give it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sunny hostin if I remember correctly found out that her
family used to own slaves and that was how they
were wealthy in Puerto Rico, which is one of the
great historic ironies. Of course, everybody has been a slave
or has been a slave holder at some point. You
are descended from both slaves and slaveholders. Every single person
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listening to this program right now, every single one of
you has both the blood of slaves and slaveholders running
inside your veins. Because anyone who studies history knows that
slavery didn't just exist from sixteen nineteen to eighteen sixty
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three in the United States. It has existed throughout history
everywhere in the world, and in fact.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
If you really want to talk about the moral arc.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Of history, the United States, an ending slavery actually created
one of the greatest trajectories of human rights of any
nation that has ever existed. But for her to compare
January sixth to slavery and the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is so dumb that.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Frankly, one of the producers on that show should have
just walked out, taken her by the hand, and led
her off the stage and told her backstage, I'm sorry,
you are too dumb to talk on television. And by
the way, the standard to talk on television in terms
of intelligence.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Ain't that high.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
But Sonny Hostin cannot meet it. If that is the
argument she's gonna make, and let me just hammer this home.
A show like The View, I bet there are five
production assistants handing Sonny Hostin an entire roster of talking
points for every topic that they are discussing on that show.
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So sometimes you can go on television and you get
asked a question you don't anticipate it. Heck fu can
I do live radio every day? There is no script.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Sometimes you might say something, you go back and you
know what, You know what? That was kind of dumb.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I didn't necessarily contextualize that as well as I wanted.
I missed an obvious analogy I should have made. Nobody's
perfect live unscripted media is that way. The reason why
people like it is because it is authentic. But if
you string together a series of analysis from a historical
basis that is that divorced from reality, your brain is
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so broken that, in my opinion, you should be fired
for stupidity. And again, like I think Joy Behar is dumb,
She's not dumb enough. To be fired for stupidity. I
don't think what Be Goldberg is the most intelligent person
on the planet. I think the View collectively is the
dumbest show that's ever existed on a daily basis anywhere
in media. But what Be Goldberg and Joy Behar are
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not so dumb that I would say someone needs to
escort them off the stage. They aren't intelligent enough to
be able to talk on television anymore. I would say,
my good friend Sunny Hostin is too stupid to be
allowed to speak on television. That analogy is unbelievable. Open
phone lines. By the way, eight hundred and two two
(12:07):
two eight a two, We're gonna talk with Julie Kelly
at the bottom of the hour. Will you keep that clip, Greg,
the particular part where she compares jan six to the Holocaust,
because the slavery's.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
A bad analogy.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Anything that happens for a few hours is a bad
analogy to anything that happened for years that was awful.
But the intentional extermination of Jews compared to a guy
with a spear over his loy and a and a
like furry loincloth and a bunch of grandma's walking around
with selfie sticks for a few hours in the Capitol.
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I sometimes I can't believe that the clips that we
play are real and that millions of people actually consume
that content and are dumb enough to actually be in
her audit.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't know does Sabby Hoston have fans?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Like if Sonny Houston did a book signing with tons
of people show up for maybe so all of those
people who would show up at that book signing also
should be fired from all of their jobs because they're
too dumb to do whatever they do for a living.
As well, if they're actually fans of Sonny Houston. It's
possible she doesn't have any fans. There are people on
television that have no fans. Joy read I don't think
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Joy Reid.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Has any fans.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Anderson Cooper, I don't think Anderson Cooper actually has any
I don't think people are like you know who I
really love in media Anderson Cooper. Wolf Flitzer probably didn't
expect to get attacked. I don't know that there's tons
of people who are like you know who. Really I
can't wait to hear what he has to say, Wolf
of Blitzer. There are a lot of people who have
platforms that have platforms because they've been doing it for
like forty years, that nobody actually really cares about that much.
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It's rare that I say this, but anybody who bought
the Sonny Hoston written a book, anybody who bought Sonny
Hostin's book should be fired too, because they're too dumb
to have whatever job they have if they're actually fans
of Sonny Houston. Because Sonny Austin is so dumb that
I cannot believe that she is allowed to have a job.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
The Holocaust, The Holocaust.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
January sixth Oh, my goodness, I'm actually surprised Sundy Houstin
believes the Holocaust a bad thing. Actually actually a gaza apologist.
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Julie Kelly's going to join us at bottom of the
hour to talk about the worst thing to happen to
the world since the Holocaust. According to Sunny Host, I
still can't believe that's real. I mean, one thing that
historical analogies often provide is evidence of how little history
many people have actually read. Because there are analogies you
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could drive, it's an easy analogy to compare, which is
what we've done on this show. Jan six to the
BLM riots. They both were motivated by the election season
and I think COVID insanity of twenty twenty and what
Buck and I both said, which is what rational reasonable
humans should say, is look, you have to arrest people,
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were cowards and they didn't look at the evidence in
that case. In my opinion, I think Derek Chauvin was
not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on the evidence
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that I've seen, And maybe we need to circle back
and talk about some of that era because so much
of it was basically conducted under the auspices of threatning violence,
including the twenty twenty election. But you have to put
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hanging out with us. We are joined now by our
good friend Julie Kelly, who has been vindicated. It's been
coming on the show since twenty twenty one with us
to talk about the plight of the January sixth political prisoners.
Has helped to raise money to have legal defense for them.
I'm happy to have been involved in that. Sounds like
she just knocked off a bunch of pots and pans
in her house. I believe she is with us now.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Julie, is that a celebratory pot pan dance that you
were doing in your kitchen.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think i'd still here. Did somebody take out guys
pulled Julie up. Let's make sure that she hasn't been
attacked and kidnapped as she was preparing to go on
with us, because that sounded like pots and pans being
knocked about, helter skelter as I was preparing to introduce her.
So let's get her lined up, make sure that she
hasn't been kidnapped in advance. That'd be a heck of
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a capstone to the January sixth the day would be
Julie Kelly, who has pointed out all of the governmental
overreach and and frankly lies that have.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Been spread since January sixth.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It's been coming on with us since since we started
back in twenty twenty one, and she's now being vindicated Trump. Essentially,
there's a difference between a commutation of a sentence and
a pardon. It sounds like Trump is effectively going to
commute and or pardon virtually everyone associated with this situation.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Julie, are you with us?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It sounded like you might be being kidnapped as you
were about to come on the air, so we want
to make sure you're good.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I hear I don't know technical glitch, who knows? I apologize?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Sorry, no, no, You're good.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
There's a little bit of drama because for a minute there,
we thought you might be being kidnapped on January sixth,
and I was saying that would be an incredible capstone
to the last four years. If you were kidnapped, you're
prepared for an interview. In all seriousness, how much vindication
do you personally feel for the collapse of the January
sixth narrative and what do you think is likely to
happen two weeks from today when Donald Trump raises his
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right hand and re enter to the White House.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
You know, I mean, I'm not looking for kudos, and
I'm not really one to brag. But if it wasn't
for the work you know that I was doing and
Darren Batty and you guys covering it more importantly and
being brave enough to help us challenge the j six narrative,
not only would it not have disintegrated as much as
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it has been, I really think Donald Trump would have
had a harder time winning because they planned to use
January sixth, that what they thought was the nail down
narrative incited an insurrection, police officers died, and none of that,
of course, is true. So I want to thank to
you guys also for helping us get this to a
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larger audience and forcing the American people to think, Hm,
maybe what we thought we saw on January sixth wasn't
really the reality behind it.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Congress, by the way, as we're talking to you, Julie
has officially certified Donald Trump's landslide electoral victory. What I
would say is that officially cements the greatest political comeback
of all time. What are your thoughts on the four
year trajectory? It is really a remarkable trajectory and a
remarkable narrative storyline to go from where we were four
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years ago today to Trump cementing the greatest victory for
a Republican presidential candidate since George W. George H. W.
Bush in nineteen eighty eight. And do you think the
overreach of jan six contributed to where we are today?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Absolutely? I absolutely do. Cray and I posted a piece
last night on my subject de quest Bay with Julie Kelly,
and I started it with even the most creative, diabolical,
imaginative screenwriter could not have written this script right we're
four years ago, and everything that has happened in between,
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the media fixation a NonStop loop. You have to believe
that the events of January sixth have gotten as much,
if not more coverage than the Iraq War than the
nine to eleven actual terror at tests. I mean, this
was full court press from the news media as well
as Democrats, the Biden regime, the dj the FBI, DHS
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also you know, obviously the Jay six Select Committee, other committees.
They threw everything at keeping the Jay six narratives in play,
and not only did the voters reject it, but now
they have a lot of questions about what we still
don't know. And I do believe that a Trump's Department
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of Justice and House Republicans and in the Senate have
their marketing orders on the voters. We want to know
the answers to all of these questions that we still,
you know, have have doubt about.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, So I got a couple of things that I
want to hit you with.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But this is this we talked about a bit like
last week and I saw you tweeting about a great
deal the Pipe bomber, and for those of you watching
on video, pipe bomber is in quotation marks. They finally
released video four years later. They say he's five to
seven and he was wearing a particular brand of Nike sneakers.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What happened there? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What is your best estimation for why they can find
every grandma who walked into the capitol and drag her
out of a retirement home, but they can't manage to
find the one person who appears to have, according to them,
actually engaged in legitimate terrorism.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
I mean, the only answer could possibly be that this individual,
now four years later, was tied to another law enforcement
agency that the other law enforcement agencies didn't know about,
that he was directed or working with others to allegedly
plant these devices outside the DNC and outside the R
and C headquarters. What we were told in the FBI
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said again this week the night before January sixth, and
the FBI came out last week with kind of there
it was a safe base, right because I issued broke
the story about a new report from House Republicans that
said the investigation basically went cold in several ways. Of
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twenty twenty one, despite the FBI and Chris Ray, everyone's saying,
we're still hot on the heels of the pipe bomber.
We're going to find the pipe bomber, five hundred thousand
dollars reward, et cetera. I mean, they did have a
very active investigation early on. They even were acting retailers
about the Nike shoes. Can you send us a list
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of customers who bought these shoes? Can you send lists
of customers who bought this particular backpack or even the
elements that were found in the pipe bombs. Then all
of a sudden, you know, several weeks later, the investigation
basically was halted and no one can give a good
explanation why. But in the interim playing but the FBI
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has misled the American people and Congress, they said that
one of the cell phone providers gave them data that
was corrupted. Well, when Republicans took over, they asked the
cell phone companies and get your data from January fifth.
They said, yes, and none of it is corrupted. If
you want it, you can have it. We see the
suspect using his cell phone several times on this videotape
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that's supposed to be him. Then again, let's bring up
Kamala Harris four years ago. She was evacuated out of
the DNC after the alleged pipe bomb again quotation quotation
marks was found outside the DNC headquarters. She came within
twenty feet of this device that we're told was viable
and deadly. She could have been assassinated. She's never talked
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about it. We still don't know how secret service agents
and bomb snipping dogs missed this device that had been
sitting there for eighteen hours. We are told so again
all part of the cover up, because, as my friend
Darren Baby says, once wegin an answer about who the
pipoma was really, the entire story totally unravels. And what
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we will see eventually is the government, the ruling class,
political and government ruling class in Washington put this thing
together because they thought it would result in Donald Trump
behind bars and permanently and the modern movement. And here
we are four years later. What a not just a
comeback story for Donald Trump and for all of us,
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but what is total recutiation and humiliation of the national
news media and the Democratic Party and the Biden regime.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
What do you expect, based on conversations that you are
having and or hearing, for Trump to do about commuting
and or pardoning Jan six prisoners, and those who are
still dealing with the continued investigation and prosecution of the
Department of Justice. What do you expect to happen in
two weeks from today.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I do believe that President Trump will issue some sort
of executive order on January twentieth related to pardons to
J sixers. I think I suspect that he will start
with the lowest hanging fruit, which is the eight hundred
nine hundred who were convicted or took free deals for
the four or five common misdemeanors. Perhaps he will add
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to that civil disorder and maybe the obstruction count, which
of course was overturned by the Supreme Court in June.
But the DOJ, Matthew Graves, the BCS attorney, refuses to
just blanket go into court and dismiss those convictions, those
indictments or vacate convictions. People have already gone to jail
for years on what is now an unlawful felony charge
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that this DOJ brought. So I think the sticky issue
is going to be those convicted of all police officers. Again,
most of those cases focused the DJ withheld exculpatory evidence
including how the police behaved that day. And furthermore, every
single trial, as you know, was before DC Jury's a
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city that just voted ninety three percent for Kamala Harris.
They're continuing to put j six ER's Trump supporters before
DC juries. None of them got a fair shape. Even
if they did attack a police officers got into a scuffle,
there was no way they were going to get a
fair and partial trial, which is their constitutional right. They
do think there maybe some hesitation to immediately pardoning those
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individuals as well, but I do expect that they will
be at some point.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Last question for you, Julian.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We appreciate the time, and I'm sure we're going to
be talking to you still quite a lot as we
move forward. Ashley Babbitt lost her life four years ago today.
I think that's important to continue to reinforce and to
discuss because there's a lot of actual untruth out there,
particularly from the left, about who were the victims of
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January sixth from a violent loss of life perspective, there
was one inside the Capitol that day, Ashley Babbitt.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Did she get justice?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
She absolutely did not, And there were actually four Trump
supporters who died on January sixth three at the hands
of police, including Ashley Babbitt, of course, fatally shot by
Lieutenant Michael Bird, Roseanne Boylan who was attacked by police
and then beaten by DC Mentro police officer Kevin Griefan,
who suffered a fatal heart attack after he was hit
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directly with a flashpain and then another individual of who
it appears did have a natural heart attack, but no
back to Ashley Babbitt, the notion that the DOJ conducted
any investigation civil rights or excessive lethal force investigation that
did not happen. Furthermore, Michael Bird has a long history
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of disciplinary misconduct, and then he was hidden. He was
protected by Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Capitol police who hid
him out four months so no one would know his name,
a great expense to taxpayers. And so I do believe
that a Trump Department of Justice will reopen investigation into
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that shooting and Michael Bert and hopefully holds him accountable,
because that is one of the most egregious lapses in
justice tied to January sixth, the shooting of Ashley Babbitt.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Julie, thank you, thank you for all the work. We
will talk to you again soon. I'm not sure if
you're going to be in DC. Are you going to
be in DC for the inauguration events at all?
Speaker 6 (31:44):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, well you should be there because Trump and many
others certainly have benefited from your work.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
We will be there. We'll get you on again soon.
And thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Thank you guys for covering all my work. It just
means so much much to the j sixers and to
getting the truth to the American people.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So thank you, no doubt that is Julie Kelly.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Encourage you guys to go follow her on social and
certainly we will continue to talk with her as the
fallout of what happened to everybody from four years ago
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we got some people who want to weigh in variety
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exactly where we got Jason in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
What you got for us?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Hey man, I was just calling in because you've been
talking a lot about Ashley Babbitt, you know, and I
remember her name because you know, she was shot that day,
you know, on January sixth. But when I was online,
it was like during one of the debates and I
was watching it on on stream on Facebook, and as
the comments were coming in, like he had mentioned Ashley Babbitt,
how like there was no justice for her, and then
(34:31):
these comments just start, It's like swarming in about how
she was an insurrectionist and she deserved what she got
and all this garbage, you know, And I was like,
I can't believe that, Like the media has pushed this
narrative so far that like they can hate the one
person that was there. There was a woman who actually
served our country that died that day. I just it
(34:52):
just baffled me.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Well, thank you for the call. I think Julie raised
the point, do you think that Ashley Babbitt got justice?
And obviously they're have been a lot of investigations of
police officers over the years. We've talked about this. The vast,
vast majority of police officers, and many of them are
listening to us right now. We have a huge police
officer listenership, and we appreciate all of you guys, and
(35:13):
you know this too. The vast majority of the guys
and gals who work as police officers do an incredible
job putting their lives on the line every single day.
But sometimes police officers commit crimes.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
And I think the.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Idea that un armed Jack Ashley Babbitt had to be
shot that day is based on the evidence that I
have seen, not supportable. In other words, I don't think
that anybody on that day from Ashley Babbitt, in my opinion,
was in imminent danger of death.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I don't think anybody was. I have watched the video
over and over again.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
There is nothing I have seen from inside of the
Capitol personally that if I were a congress person or
if I were a senator, I would have been threatened
by that group of people that were in there that day.
I don't think the caveman with the spear was going
to throw it at me and kill me. Now, they
shouldn't have been there. If you trespass, you could be prosecuted.
(36:14):
Certainly if you engaged in violent behavior. I think that
makes sense, as it should have happened with the BLM protesters.
But one of the great stories that they have spread,
like AOC said, Oh, I was convinced I was going
to be raped and murdered that day. You weren't even
in the Capitol. You were still in your office. Nobody
was even close to you. It's hard anybody who's having
(36:35):
walked around Capitol Hill. It's hard to find anybody's office,
even if you're looking for it. We'll come back third hour,
break all this down for you and more. Clay and
Buck Show. Appreciate y'all hang with us,
Buck is down with the flu. He is back from Spain.
They had a fabulous trip there. I'm actually super excited
to hear what his review of Spain is. But we
got some great news for all of you. The three
hundred and twelve electoral vote landslide of Donald Trump, the
biggest landslide Republican election win since nineteen eighty eight, will
(00:26):
soon be official four years after January sixth of twenty
twenty one. And I want to discuss this with you guys,
because I do think it's important. Because one of the
last powers of the legacy media, and it frustrates me
(00:46):
to no end, is they still can all move in
unison and decide that they want to try and make
a story pop.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That is the power.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
In any given day, there are a thousand stories that
could percolate to the front page of the New York
Times or the Washington Post, or be the lead on ABC, CBS, NBC,
And the decision of which of those stories you decide
(01:19):
to feature is actually, I would argue, the last power
of the legacy media. And they decided all together as
one that they were going to treat January sixth, twenty
twenty one as one of the most import important historic
dates in the history of the United States. And they
(01:41):
did it despite the fact that they had spent six
months ignoring the BLM riots, which were far more consequential,
far more deadly, far more destructive, and in my opinion,
far more significant than anything that happened on January sixth
of twenty twenty one. And it wasn't some sort of
(02:04):
surprise about how exactly they did that. They calculated made
a decision that they were going to brand January sixth,
twenty twenty one as the worst day in America since
the Civil War. Now, I want to play this for
you because this is something that they were still saying
(02:24):
as recently as September. I'm sure you can find people
on the left on MSNBC and CNN saying that today
on the four year anniversary. But this, to me, Kamala
Harris said it in the debate against Trump in September
of last year. To me, this was one of the
(02:44):
opportunities Trump had to deliver a knockout in response. This
was on September tenth of twenty twenty one. Kamala Harris
on January sixth, and the direct attack on American democracy.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Listen Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our
democracy since the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, Trump should have expected this, and this was one
of the criticisms.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
When Buck and I talked about it the next day,
I said, Man, I wish that he had delivered an
absolutely devastating CounterPunch here, because she said that on September
tenth of twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty
four years all mixed up. She said that the day
(03:33):
before the anniversary of nine to eleven, that evening before
nine to eleven, Trump had, as a New Yorker and
unbelievable opportunity to follow up and just ask Kamala Harris directly.
I'm sorry he could have pivoted and said we had
six months of BLM riots. They were far worse and
(03:55):
more devastating to our country. And Kamala, you bailed out
the purpose traders of those crimes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You raise money to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
But I would just like to ask you a direct
question here and now, do you actually think January sixth
was worse than nine to eleven, because tomorrow is the
twenty third anniversary of nine to eleven, and you just
stood here on the stage and said January sixth was
the worst day for America since the Civil War. I'm
(04:26):
going to get two pretty awful days. First, is it
worse than nine to eleven?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Second?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Is it worse than Pearl Harbor, the attack that took
us into World War Two? Was January sixth worse than
the Great Depression? Was it worse than the Oklahoma City bombing?
Was it worse than? I could name like twenty different
(04:51):
things that are awful that have happened to the United States,
including your withdrawal from Afghanistan, which cost us thirteen Keen
soldiers lives because of your incompetence. The only person who
died on January sixth was Ashley Babbitt. Now, there were
(05:12):
some police officers who committed suicide after which Merrick Garland
is still trying to argue was in some way connected
to jan six And there.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Were some of the protesters.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think a couple of them actually had heart attacks
during the course of the protest and of the jan
sixth events. But the idea that they've tried to turn
this into the worst day in America since the Civil War,
and Joe Biden didn't even make it close. I mean,
he made that argument quite clearly when he went down
(05:49):
to Georgia and said, you're either on the side of
Confederate President Jefferson Davis or you're on the side of
America over the bill that they passed to strengthen voting
in Georgia. And oh, by the way, since that bill passed,
they've actually had record turnout in twenty twenty two in
(06:12):
the off year election, and in twenty twenty four in
the presidential election. More people voted in Georgia in twenty
twenty four than voted in Georgia in twenty twenty Joe
Biden called it not even Jim Crow, remember he called
it Jim Eagle. All of the data refutes this. Anyone
(06:34):
with a functional brain who has ever studied history recognizes
how crazy it is. Yet they still are trying to
make that argument, including today Sonny Houston, the dumbest person
on television on a daily basis. She is my gold
Medal winner for stupidity on daily television anywhere in America.
(06:56):
She said, today still the worst days since the Civil War.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Argument. Listen, I think we need.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
To find moral clarity, you know, in this country.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And I just.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Remember after January sixth, you had someone like Mitch McConnell
placing the blame on January sixth, where it belongs squarely
on Donald Trump's shoulders. And then you started seeing people
backtrack that and losing their moral center. You had Condoleeza
Rice I believe, on this very show saying, you know,
we need to move on from January sixth. I say, no,
you don't move on, because January sixth was an atrocity.
(07:28):
It was one of the worst moments in American history.
When you think about the worst moments in American history,
you know, like World War Two, things that happened, you know,
like the Holocaust, chattel slavery. We need to never forget
because past becomes prologue if you forget any race.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
She compared January sixth to the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The Holocaust, I.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Mean to these people have working brains, six million Jews
exterminated in concentration camps for years by Nazis, and she
just compared that on the air to January sixth. She
(08:22):
is the dumbest person to ever get a paycheck on
a daily television show of all time.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
The Holocaust, let me come on. And slavery, first of all,
don't even give it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sunny hostin if I remember correctly found out that her
family used to own slaves and that was how they
were wealthy in Puerto Rico, which is one of the
great historic ironies. Of course, everybody has been a slave
or has been a slave holder at some point. You
are descended from both slaves and slaveholders. Every single person
(09:07):
listening to this program right now, every single one of
you has both the blood of slaves and slaveholders running
inside your veins. Because anyone who studies history knows that
slavery didn't just exist from sixteen nineteen to eighteen sixty
(09:28):
three in the United States. It has existed throughout history
everywhere in the world, and in fact.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
If you really want to talk about the moral arc.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Of history, the United States, an ending slavery actually created
one of the greatest trajectories of human rights of any
nation that has ever existed. But for her to compare
January sixth to slavery and the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is so dumb that.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Frankly, one of the producers on that show should have
just walked out, taken her by the hand, and led
her off the stage and told her backstage, I'm sorry,
you are too dumb to talk on television. And by
the way, the standard to talk on television in terms
of intelligence.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Ain't that high.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
But Sonny Hostin cannot meet it. If that is the
argument she's gonna make, and let me just hammer this home.
A show like The View, I bet there are five
production assistants handing Sonny Hostin an entire roster of talking
points for every topic that they are discussing on that show.
(10:48):
So sometimes you can go on television and you get
asked a question you don't anticipate it. Heck fu can
I do live radio every day? There is no script.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Sometimes you might say something, you go back and you
know what, You know what? That was kind of dumb.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I didn't necessarily contextualize that as well as I wanted.
I missed an obvious analogy I should have made. Nobody's
perfect live unscripted media is that way. The reason why
people like it is because it is authentic. But if
you string together a series of analysis from a historical
basis that is that divorced from reality, your brain is
(11:24):
so broken that, in my opinion, you should be fired
for stupidity. And again, like I think Joy Behar is dumb,
She's not dumb enough. To be fired for stupidity. I
don't think what Be Goldberg is the most intelligent person
on the planet. I think the View collectively is the
dumbest show that's ever existed on a daily basis anywhere
in media. But what Be Goldberg and Joy Behar are
(11:46):
not so dumb that I would say someone needs to
escort them off the stage. They aren't intelligent enough to
be able to talk on television anymore. I would say,
my good friend Sunny Hostin is too stupid to be
allowed to speak on television. That analogy is unbelievable. Open
phone lines. By the way, eight hundred and two two
(12:07):
two eight a two, We're gonna talk with Julie Kelly
at the bottom of the hour. Will you keep that clip, Greg,
the particular part where she compares jan six to the Holocaust,
because the slavery's.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
A bad analogy.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Anything that happens for a few hours is a bad
analogy to anything that happened for years that was awful.
But the intentional extermination of Jews compared to a guy
with a spear over his loy and a and a
like furry loincloth and a bunch of grandma's walking around
with selfie sticks for a few hours in the Capitol.
(12:45):
I sometimes I can't believe that the clips that we
play are real and that millions of people actually consume
that content and are dumb enough to actually be in
her audit.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't know does Sabby Hoston have fans?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Like if Sonny Houston did a book signing with tons
of people show up for maybe so all of those
people who would show up at that book signing also
should be fired from all of their jobs because they're
too dumb to do whatever they do for a living.
As well, if they're actually fans of Sonny Houston. It's
possible she doesn't have any fans. There are people on
television that have no fans. Joy read I don't think
(13:23):
Joy Reid.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Has any fans.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Anderson Cooper, I don't think Anderson Cooper actually has any
I don't think people are like you know who I
really love in media Anderson Cooper. Wolf Flitzer probably didn't
expect to get attacked. I don't know that there's tons
of people who are like you know who. Really I
can't wait to hear what he has to say, Wolf
of Blitzer. There are a lot of people who have
platforms that have platforms because they've been doing it for
like forty years, that nobody actually really cares about that much.
(13:48):
It's rare that I say this, but anybody who bought
the Sonny Hoston written a book, anybody who bought Sonny
Hostin's book should be fired too, because they're too dumb
to have whatever job they have if they're actually fans
of Sonny Houston. Because Sonny Austin is so dumb that
I cannot believe that she is allowed to have a job.
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The Holocaust, The Holocaust.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
January sixth Oh, my goodness, I'm actually surprised Sundy Houstin
believes the Holocaust a bad thing. Actually actually a gaza apologist.
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Julie Kelly's going to join us at bottom of the
hour to talk about the worst thing to happen to
the world since the Holocaust. According to Sunny Host, I
still can't believe that's real. I mean, one thing that
historical analogies often provide is evidence of how little history
many people have actually read. Because there are analogies you
(16:31):
could drive, it's an easy analogy to compare, which is
what we've done on this show. Jan six to the
BLM riots. They both were motivated by the election season
and I think COVID insanity of twenty twenty and what
Buck and I both said, which is what rational reasonable
humans should say, is look, you have to arrest people,
(16:55):
whether they're Democrats or Republicans, independence, black, white, Asian, Hispanic,
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doing so in furtherance of what they believe is a
just political ideology. You don't get to burn down a
police station because you're angry about what a police officer
(17:19):
did to George Floyd. Now you want to talk about
a re examination. Historically, there really needs to be a
re examination of the entire George Floyd era because people
were cowards and they didn't look at the evidence in
that case. In my opinion, I think Derek Chauvin was
not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on the evidence
(17:39):
that I've seen, And maybe we need to circle back
and talk about some of that era because so much
of it was basically conducted under the auspices of threatning violence,
including the twenty twenty election. But you have to put
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hanging out with us. We are joined now by our
good friend Julie Kelly, who has been vindicated. It's been
coming on the show since twenty twenty one with us
to talk about the plight of the January sixth political prisoners.
Has helped to raise money to have legal defense for them.
I'm happy to have been involved in that. Sounds like
she just knocked off a bunch of pots and pans
in her house. I believe she is with us now.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Julie, is that a celebratory pot pan dance that you
were doing in your kitchen.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think i'd still here. Did somebody take out guys
pulled Julie up. Let's make sure that she hasn't been
attacked and kidnapped as she was preparing to go on
with us, because that sounded like pots and pans being
knocked about, helter skelter as I was preparing to introduce her.
So let's get her lined up, make sure that she
hasn't been kidnapped in advance. That'd be a heck of
(19:51):
a capstone to the January sixth the day would be
Julie Kelly, who has pointed out all of the governmental
overreach and and frankly lies that have.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Been spread since January sixth.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It's been coming on with us since since we started
back in twenty twenty one, and she's now being vindicated Trump. Essentially,
there's a difference between a commutation of a sentence and
a pardon. It sounds like Trump is effectively going to
commute and or pardon virtually everyone associated with this situation.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Julie, are you with us?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It sounded like you might be being kidnapped as you
were about to come on the air, so we want
to make sure you're good.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I hear I don't know technical glitch, who knows? I apologize?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Sorry, no, no, You're good.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
There's a little bit of drama because for a minute there,
we thought you might be being kidnapped on January sixth,
and I was saying that would be an incredible capstone
to the last four years. If you were kidnapped, you're
prepared for an interview. In all seriousness, how much vindication
do you personally feel for the collapse of the January
sixth narrative and what do you think is likely to
happen two weeks from today when Donald Trump raises his
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right hand and re enter to the White House.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
You know, I mean, I'm not looking for kudos, and
I'm not really one to brag. But if it wasn't
for the work you know that I was doing and
Darren Batty and you guys covering it more importantly and
being brave enough to help us challenge the j six narrative,
not only would it not have disintegrated as much as
(21:23):
it has been, I really think Donald Trump would have
had a harder time winning because they planned to use
January sixth, that what they thought was the nail down
narrative incited an insurrection, police officers died, and none of that,
of course, is true. So I want to thank to
you guys also for helping us get this to a
(21:44):
larger audience and forcing the American people to think, Hm,
maybe what we thought we saw on January sixth wasn't
really the reality behind it.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Congress, by the way, as we're talking to you, Julie
has officially certified Donald Trump's landslide electoral victory. What I
would say is that officially cements the greatest political comeback
of all time. What are your thoughts on the four
year trajectory? It is really a remarkable trajectory and a
remarkable narrative storyline to go from where we were four
(22:17):
years ago today to Trump cementing the greatest victory for
a Republican presidential candidate since George W. George H. W.
Bush in nineteen eighty eight. And do you think the
overreach of jan six contributed to where we are today?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Absolutely? I absolutely do. Cray and I posted a piece
last night on my subject de quest Bay with Julie Kelly,
and I started it with even the most creative, diabolical,
imaginative screenwriter could not have written this script right we're
four years ago, and everything that has happened in between,
(22:55):
the media fixation a NonStop loop. You have to believe
that the events of January sixth have gotten as much,
if not more coverage than the Iraq War than the
nine to eleven actual terror at tests. I mean, this
was full court press from the news media as well
as Democrats, the Biden regime, the dj the FBI, DHS
(23:18):
also you know, obviously the Jay six Select Committee, other committees.
They threw everything at keeping the Jay six narratives in play,
and not only did the voters reject it, but now
they have a lot of questions about what we still
don't know. And I do believe that a Trump's Department
(23:38):
of Justice and House Republicans and in the Senate have
their marketing orders on the voters. We want to know
the answers to all of these questions that we still,
you know, have have doubt about.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, So I got a couple of things that I
want to hit you with.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But this is this we talked about a bit like
last week and I saw you tweeting about a great
deal the Pipe bomber, and for those of you watching
on video, pipe bomber is in quotation marks. They finally
released video four years later. They say he's five to
seven and he was wearing a particular brand of Nike sneakers.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What happened there? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What is your best estimation for why they can find
every grandma who walked into the capitol and drag her
out of a retirement home, but they can't manage to
find the one person who appears to have, according to them,
actually engaged in legitimate terrorism.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
I mean, the only answer could possibly be that this individual,
now four years later, was tied to another law enforcement
agency that the other law enforcement agencies didn't know about,
that he was directed or working with others to allegedly
plant these devices outside the DNC and outside the R
and C headquarters. What we were told in the FBI
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said again this week the night before January sixth, and
the FBI came out last week with kind of there
it was a safe base, right because I issued broke
the story about a new report from House Republicans that
said the investigation basically went cold in several ways. Of
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twenty twenty one, despite the FBI and Chris Ray, everyone's saying,
we're still hot on the heels of the pipe bomber.
We're going to find the pipe bomber, five hundred thousand
dollars reward, et cetera. I mean, they did have a
very active investigation early on. They even were acting retailers
about the Nike shoes. Can you send us a list
(25:43):
of customers who bought these shoes? Can you send lists
of customers who bought this particular backpack or even the
elements that were found in the pipe bombs. Then all
of a sudden, you know, several weeks later, the investigation
basically was halted and no one can give a good
explanation why. But in the interim playing but the FBI
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has misled the American people and Congress, they said that
one of the cell phone providers gave them data that
was corrupted. Well, when Republicans took over, they asked the
cell phone companies and get your data from January fifth.
They said, yes, and none of it is corrupted. If
you want it, you can have it. We see the
suspect using his cell phone several times on this videotape
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that's supposed to be him. Then again, let's bring up
Kamala Harris four years ago. She was evacuated out of
the DNC after the alleged pipe bomb again quotation quotation
marks was found outside the DNC headquarters. She came within
twenty feet of this device that we're told was viable
and deadly. She could have been assassinated. She's never talked
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about it. We still don't know how secret service agents
and bomb snipping dogs missed this device that had been
sitting there for eighteen hours. We are told so again
all part of the cover up, because, as my friend
Darren Baby says, once wegin an answer about who the
pipoma was really, the entire story totally unravels. And what
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we will see eventually is the government, the ruling class,
political and government ruling class in Washington put this thing
together because they thought it would result in Donald Trump
behind bars and permanently and the modern movement. And here
we are four years later. What a not just a
comeback story for Donald Trump and for all of us,
(27:38):
but what is total recutiation and humiliation of the national
news media and the Democratic Party and the Biden regime.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
What do you expect, based on conversations that you are
having and or hearing, for Trump to do about commuting
and or pardoning Jan six prisoners, and those who are
still dealing with the continued investigation and prosecution of the
Department of Justice. What do you expect to happen in
two weeks from today.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I do believe that President Trump will issue some sort
of executive order on January twentieth related to pardons to
J sixers. I think I suspect that he will start
with the lowest hanging fruit, which is the eight hundred
nine hundred who were convicted or took free deals for
the four or five common misdemeanors. Perhaps he will add
(28:31):
to that civil disorder and maybe the obstruction count, which
of course was overturned by the Supreme Court in June.
But the DOJ, Matthew Graves, the BCS attorney, refuses to
just blanket go into court and dismiss those convictions, those
indictments or vacate convictions. People have already gone to jail
for years on what is now an unlawful felony charge
(28:53):
that this DOJ brought. So I think the sticky issue
is going to be those convicted of all police officers. Again,
most of those cases focused the DJ withheld exculpatory evidence
including how the police behaved that day. And furthermore, every
single trial, as you know, was before DC Jury's a
(29:16):
city that just voted ninety three percent for Kamala Harris.
They're continuing to put j six ER's Trump supporters before
DC juries. None of them got a fair shape. Even
if they did attack a police officers got into a scuffle,
there was no way they were going to get a
fair and partial trial, which is their constitutional right. They
do think there maybe some hesitation to immediately pardoning those
(29:41):
individuals as well, but I do expect that they will
be at some point.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Last question for you, Julian.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We appreciate the time, and I'm sure we're going to
be talking to you still quite a lot as we
move forward. Ashley Babbitt lost her life four years ago today.
I think that's important to continue to reinforce and to
discuss because there's a lot of actual untruth out there,
particularly from the left, about who were the victims of
(30:09):
January sixth from a violent loss of life perspective, there
was one inside the Capitol that day, Ashley Babbitt.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Did she get justice?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
She absolutely did not, And there were actually four Trump
supporters who died on January sixth three at the hands
of police, including Ashley Babbitt, of course, fatally shot by
Lieutenant Michael Bird, Roseanne Boylan who was attacked by police
and then beaten by DC Mentro police officer Kevin Griefan,
who suffered a fatal heart attack after he was hit
(30:38):
directly with a flashpain and then another individual of who
it appears did have a natural heart attack, but no
back to Ashley Babbitt, the notion that the DOJ conducted
any investigation civil rights or excessive lethal force investigation that
did not happen. Furthermore, Michael Bird has a long history
(30:59):
of disciplinary misconduct, and then he was hidden. He was
protected by Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Capitol police who hid
him out four months so no one would know his name,
a great expense to taxpayers. And so I do believe
that a Trump Department of Justice will reopen investigation into
(31:22):
that shooting and Michael Bert and hopefully holds him accountable,
because that is one of the most egregious lapses in
justice tied to January sixth, the shooting of Ashley Babbitt.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Julie, thank you, thank you for all the work. We
will talk to you again soon. I'm not sure if
you're going to be in DC. Are you going to
be in DC for the inauguration events at all?
Speaker 6 (31:44):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, well you should be there because Trump and many
others certainly have benefited from your work.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
We will be there. We'll get you on again soon.
And thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Thank you guys for covering all my work. It just
means so much much to the j sixers and to
getting the truth to the American people.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So thank you, no doubt that is Julie Kelly.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Encourage you guys to go follow her on social and
certainly we will continue to talk with her as the
fallout of what happened to everybody from four years ago
certainly seems to be moving towards some form of conclusion. Look,
January turns out to be the busiest month of the
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Why not go ahead and preserve them forever. You can
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film reels, pictures.
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Speaker 1 (33:56):
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I know
we got some people who want to weigh in variety
of different topics out there. Let me catch up on
exactly where we got Jason in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
What you got for us?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Hey man, I was just calling in because you've been
talking a lot about Ashley Babbitt, you know, and I
remember her name because you know, she was shot that day,
you know, on January sixth. But when I was online,
it was like during one of the debates and I
was watching it on on stream on Facebook, and as
the comments were coming in, like he had mentioned Ashley Babbitt,
how like there was no justice for her, and then
(34:31):
these comments just start, It's like swarming in about how
she was an insurrectionist and she deserved what she got
and all this garbage, you know, And I was like,
I can't believe that, Like the media has pushed this
narrative so far that like they can hate the one
person that was there. There was a woman who actually
served our country that died that day. I just it
(34:52):
just baffled me.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Well, thank you for the call. I think Julie raised
the point, do you think that Ashley Babbitt got justice?
And obviously they're have been a lot of investigations of
police officers over the years. We've talked about this. The vast,
vast majority of police officers, and many of them are
listening to us right now. We have a huge police
officer listenership, and we appreciate all of you guys, and
(35:13):
you know this too. The vast majority of the guys
and gals who work as police officers do an incredible
job putting their lives on the line every single day.
But sometimes police officers commit crimes.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
And I think the.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Idea that un armed Jack Ashley Babbitt had to be
shot that day is based on the evidence that I
have seen, not supportable. In other words, I don't think
that anybody on that day from Ashley Babbitt, in my opinion,
was in imminent danger of death.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I don't think anybody was. I have watched the video
over and over again.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
There is nothing I have seen from inside of the
Capitol personally that if I were a congress person or
if I were a senator, I would have been threatened
by that group of people that were in there that day.
I don't think the caveman with the spear was going
to throw it at me and kill me. Now, they
shouldn't have been there. If you trespass, you could be prosecuted.
(36:14):
Certainly if you engaged in violent behavior. I think that
makes sense, as it should have happened with the BLM protesters.
But one of the great stories that they have spread,
like AOC said, Oh, I was convinced I was going
to be raped and murdered that day. You weren't even
in the Capitol. You were still in your office. Nobody
was even close to you. It's hard anybody who's having
(36:35):
walked around Capitol Hill. It's hard to find anybody's office,
even if you're looking for it. We'll come back third hour,
break all this down for you and more. Clay and
Buck Show. Appreciate y'all hang with us,
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