January 10, 2025 • 36 mins
The good guys won this round: Trump lawfare victory. Clay’s future history book prediction. The politics of personal destruction. Is Trump a unicorn? Why DEI is destructive. Firefighters call in. Clay reviews Gladiator II and reveals some things we never knew about him.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Congratulations
to Notre Dame fans. You can party like it's nineteen
eighty eight. You're in a championship game. Buck may have
no idea what that actually means, but I bet we
have a lot of Golden Domers that are listening. Big
win last night over Penn State. I am in snowy Nashville, Buck,
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where we are getting absolutely slammed with what Southerners would
consider to be a massive amount of snow. It's going
to be six to eight inches before all is said
and done. All the schools are closed. If you hear
kids running around and screaming, that's probably going to be
kids in my house that are out and about with
sleds and everything else. And so all of that underway,
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we got a bunch of legal happenings that continued fallout
of the wildfires in Los Angeles and the movement by
the way of a lot of sporting events. I mean,
but the playoff game there that the Rams were going
to host being moved to Arizona, and the Lakers games
being postponed. I mean, there's basically continued mess there. Curfew
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in place, after dark. There are looting issues that are
happening in some of these neighborhoods with the burned out homes,
which is just absolutely indefensible on top of the indefensible
nature of so much of the response to these wildfires.
Will continue to talk about that. But the story of
the day Donald Trump officially sentenced in the sham New
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York City case having to do with business records. And
after all of this, after months of trial, after.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Years of legal wranglings.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
After charges being brought in DC and Atlanta, in New
York City and in Miami, effectively all those cases are done,
and the sentencing has now been complete, and they gave
Donald Trump an unconditional discharge, meaning, hey, there is no
punishment at all. We're not even going to find you.
(02:06):
This case is over. There's no jail time, there is
basically no consequence at all. And I'm seeing buck even
left wingers that hate Trump are sort of facing this
existential crisis of their own creation where they sit around
and they say, wait, nothing actually is happening. After MSNBC
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and CNN and left wing legal analysts have gotten them
all gigged up for nine years that Trump was going
to face his day in court and there would be
a reckoning. Actually nothing at all has happened. Judge merchand
unconditionally discharges him. They're trying to dance around and say,
always a convicted felon. I still think this case is
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going to get tossed on appeal, I really do. But
in the meantime there are no consequences whatsoever. And in
ten days Trump is raising his right hand and takes
over as President of the United States with a full
House and a full Senate behind him.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I know that a lot of things came together to
make Trump president again, but it is hard at this
point I would argue to look back and not come
away thinking that law fair against Trump may have been
the biggest political own goal we've ever seen. I've you know,
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when you look at the numbers after the mar A
Lago raid and after it was clear they were criminally
prosecuting Trump, it was just it was Trump's party. The
Republicans didn't want anybody else, don't want to talk about
anybody else. Primary was a non primary effectively, and now
maybe that would have happened anyway, But I think it's
hard to look at where the numbers were before that
I think that this was something that blew up in
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their faces in a way that is truly epic, and
it's hard to imagine. It's hard to imagine anything being
so poorly planned as the four criminal prosecutions of Donald Trump,
all of which came to nothing other than making him
president again. Yeah, you know, and this is really important
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because lawfair is the end of the republic. If it
becomes standardized lawfair in politics, that can get rid of
a political candidate because you don't like him means that
we no longer have a free and fair political system,
not worthy of being called such.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And the only way for it to be defeated really
was this, meaning that going forward, anybody who and it's
always Democrats to do this stuff, but anybody who thinks, oh,
I'm going to take this person off the political battlefield
by bringing some bogus charge, by having some partisan da as.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know, my so called political hitman. If you will
to take this person and prosecute them, they're going to say,
wait a second, what happened with Trump when they did that?
Oh yeah, that was a really bad idea. And it
was a really bad idea because the American people rejected
it and the American people. As much as sometimes it
feels like, oh my gosh, how can so many people
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believe this? And so many people wear masks during COVID
and all these things, we got this one right as
a country. This was a critical stress test of our
political system, and now Donald Trump gets to the rewards.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think it's important to go back and think about
what their goal was and to your point, see what
happens with it blowing up in their face. Their plan
was to put Trump. I really think this is what
their their thought process tell me if you disagree with
any of this buck. I think they thought when they
raided mar A Lago and began the Lawfair in Earnest,
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that they were going to pump up Trump's numbers in
the Republican primary, and that that would make him the nominee,
but that the larger American voting public, that is the
swing voter, so to speak, and the anti Trump element,
would actually guarantee to them that there was no way
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Trump could be elected once he was charged with crimes.
So it was diabolical in this respect. I think they
were right that Republicans would rally around Trump when the
Lawfair began, and I think to Trump's credit, he got
that right. I think their miscalculation was they never really
thought that Trump would be strengthened with the so called
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swing voters of America based on the lawfair that they
brought to bear against it. And to your point, that's
where they were wrong in their calculus.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, the failure of analysis from their part was it
would make him the nominee and force and make sure
he lost the election. And instead it made him the
nominee and made sure he won the election, right actually,
and was a major part of it. And we haven't
even added into this the two attempted assassinations of Donald Trump,
the way that they responded to getting shot in the ear.
Do you remember that, everybody who's just a few months
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ago Trump got shot in the ear. The guy took
an ar round in the ear and basically said, let's go,
let's fight up on the stage while he had blood
dripping down from his head. I mean, it was a
remarkable year in American politics, in American history last year,
and so you know, going into this inauguration, to say
there's a sense of history to it all and a
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sense of destiny to it all, I think is perhaps
an understatement and the final collapse play of the law
fair right before it. His victory is absolute. The victory
is complete, top to bottom. They pushed this. This was
the first case they pushed through so that then they
could let him, let him go anyway. I mean, the
whole thing was such a sham. It's like saying that
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he was Hitler, which they also never believed. It's also
the case.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And I like to look decades and maybe even farther
than that into the future, what we lived through in
twenty twenty four, that election cycle. One hundred years from now,
it will be a best selling book that to the
extent that books are read in the traditional way, which
I still think they will. One hundred years from now,
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everybody will be dissecting this book and it'll be a
number one best seller, and people will say, can you
believe what that twenty twenty four American presidential election was like?
Long after every single person here is passed, we will
not be around when historians really write and grapple with
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the major issues that took place in this election. I
like to go back and sometimes read books about historic
election seasons. I think I even told you Buck, I
did my history thesis on the eighteen sixty four presidential
election between Abraham Lincoln and George McClellan, which is one
of the most staggering elections in American political history. I mean,
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think about that. For those of us who are history
nerds and Civil War history nerds in particular, you had
Lincoln's former chief general running against him in the middle
of the Civil War. Like, I mean, that is like
hard to even comprehend what something like that would look like.
And so you go back. I would encourage people who
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really are fans of history. There's a great book about
the eighteen sixty four presidential election, but what we just
lived through the twenty twenty four presidential election. One hundred
years from now, Like I'm talking about that eighteen sixty
four election, there will be people out there saying, man,
you got to go read this new book about the
twenty twenty four presidential Like I had no idea how
crazy it was.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like it was an unbelievable thing that we just lived through.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I think the biggest takeaway is an important one
that you laid out and we've been talking about for
some time the president now is that if you try
to put your chief political adversary in prison for the
rest of his life, that you actually see that blow
up in your face, and that it works against you electorally.
If it had worked, everybody would start to try to
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put in place law like this. I think we went
to the brink, but I think the American public thankfully
delivered Trump such a win that a lot of people
will say, whoaoa, whoa. You don't want to do to
your opponent what Trump did to Biden in twenty twenty four.
Let the voters decide, don't try to put him in
prison for the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And also it's a reminder that prosecutors can figure out
a million different ways if they want to, if they're
unethical to come up with some way that you did
something that violates the law. A violation of the law
resulting in a criminal prosecution should be a thing that
was clearly bad, that clearly did some harm to a
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person or an entity, that is real harm, and that
anyone can hear about and go, well, you shouldn't have
done that. You know you need to pay, You need
to pay the price. Nobody heard about this New York case,
who was emotionally psychologically stable through this election and said,
oh huh, he he misrepresented in his business records the
transaction for the legal hush money payment. It was insane.
(11:01):
It was the most absurd case of all of them,
and all of them were absurd, but this one was
particularly preposterous. And I also just think that, you know,
we need to remind ourselves. People can stretch the law
to do a whole bunch of different things. There needs
to be an ethical moral foundation to it. Did this
person do a bad thing? Yes or no? And the
answer with Trump is no, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Am I wrong, buck? And we can answer this when
we come back from the break. Thinking in a larger context,
this also may well rep well, I'm curious because we
don't know, but I wonder if this represents the end of,
to a certain extent, the politics of personal destruction where
the American public, because I don't know that anybody has
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been attacked more aggressively for personal foibles than Donald Trump has,
maybe in any of our lives. Bill Clinton certainly had
some element. You can argue he brought that along in
the White House, but Clinton actually didn't have any consequences.
Now Trump hasn't had any consequences. Is one of the
legacies of Trump going to be that going back in
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time twenty years, forty years, thirty, whatever you want to say,
and wagging your finger and saying he did this, that
the American public just doesn't care. Or is Trump such
a unique political talent that he was able to overcome
all that and it would destroy other politicians if they
had similar things in their background. I just I think
it's an interesting way to think going forward. Are we
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going to value people not based on their entire worst
thing of history or not? Going forward?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think I see the tremendous gifts and also some
of the idiosyncrasies and shortcomings of Trump with some clarity.
I'd like to think so, at least I think on
this score he's almost superhuman, meaning the amount of incoming,
like he's a unicorns in that way. Yes, the amount
of incoming that he can take, the amount of artillery
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fire so to speak, that you can throw in his
direction and he just keeps coming. I think it would
have I think it would have broken a lot. A
lot of other people would have said, I want to
play golf. Okay, let's just negotiate this out. Let's figure
this out. But with Trump man, he loves a fight.
He you know, the moment somebody wants to throw a
punch at him, he is he is always down to CounterPunch.
(13:22):
So it's remarkable and I honestly, today's a day everybody
should everybody who've supported Trump and voted for Trump. His
victory is complete today in a sense. I know, the
inauguration's coming up and there'll be a lot more of
this feeling, Clay, But the defeat of the law fair
is absolute now and it's an incredible thing that he
was able to do. And and you know, the good
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guys won this round, so you know, go into the
weekend feeling good about it. We'll also talk a little
bit more about the analysis on this, and and of
course updates on the wildfires in California, Lot Clay, a
lot of people talking about Arson now, yeah, which is
really really disconcerting. I mean, not not verified yet, but
we'll get into some of this now. Inflation, my friends,
(14:05):
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Look at how much money's going to have to be
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. On this Friday, January tenth,
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email access. Tamara with a great question. She says, Clay
and Buck, I was wondering besides the consequences of a
convicted felon status here to America like being prohibited from
possessing firearms, losing her Fourth Amendment rights. But abroad, there
are many countries you cannot travel to as a convicted felon.
How the hell can you put that kind of sentence
onto a president elect? How can you even travel to
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meet foreign leaders as a convicted felon? This is so ridiculous. Well,
I do think that he's going to uh end up
getting this whole thing tossed on appeal. I agree with
Clay on that, so I think that the conviction will
be overturned in the meantime, though, Clay, do you see
any legal ramification of the conviction minus any actual punishment.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I do think that what we're going to get into
here on appeal, and it's going to be very new.
And we talked about this a little bit, is to
what extent is this involved in his presidential campaign?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Point one?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
In other words, where is the scope of his public
versus private behavior? Here? Point two is and I still
believe this is supremely important. To what extent is that
second crime fully defined? And is it legally permissible? And
this again is getting really into the weeds on this,
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but it's required that in order to elevate a bookkeeping
misdemeanor to a felony, it has to have been essentially
in furtherance of another crime, and they never really have
specified exactly what the hook is on that other crime.
That is something that I think the appeals court are
going to look into in.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
A big way.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Having said all that, the punishment is virtually non existent,
I don't think anybody's going to care.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
But when I saw the Pride website bucks saying, hey,
we're so glad we have a lesbian fire chief, even
though nothing has been done to actually in the fires.
And who is this woman that I think it's a
woman that is in a video yesterday we played for you,
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And I do think it's important. I do think it's
really important that LA decided, hey, we have too many
white firemen. And yesterday we played Adam Carolla testifying in
front of the California Legislature saying he had to wait
seven years to become a fireman. And if you were
a minority woman and you showed up and you applied
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to be a fireman, you got basically automatically put at
the front of the line, and some people say, well,
why does this matter, Why should we be having this conversation. Well,
LA doesn't have enough firefighters, and they don't have enough
firefighters who are able to do the job at a
high level, because in gener in general, the people who
are going to be best at firefighting are big, tough,
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strong dudes. I can't believe that this is considered controversial.
But if your house was on fire and you had
choice choice as to who should save your family, and
the options were four women who are five foot four
and weigh one hundred and thirty pounds, and they had
to carry out your family, they had to carry out
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your animals, they had to carry out your loved ones,
friend's family, anybody who's in the home, or you could
pick four six foot four dudes who weigh two hundred
and twenty pounds. Is anybody out there saying, yeah, I'd
like the five foot four women to actually save me.
It is important some of these jobs, men in general
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are better able to do the job.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
This is a video clip that has gone viral that
I just find completely and totally in This is the
LA Fire Department Chief Christine Larson. She is talking about
whether or not she can do the job. And she said,
and she says, specifically, am I going to be able
to carry your husband out of a fire? He got
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himself in the wrong place? Excuse me, listen to this.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
You want to see somebody that responds to your house,
your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call,
that looks like you. It gives that person a little
bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better.
Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't
carry my husband out of a fire, which my response
is he got himself in the wrong place. If I
have to carry him out.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Of a fire, whoa clay hold on. There's two there's
two big problems here. First of all, I mean, I'll
start this is one hundred percent reel. This is for real,
out there, absolutely real. Okay. So there. This is the
promotion of DEI as a concept on video at the
Los Angeles Fire Department. Okay. The second part. First, because
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that's one of the most outrageous. People say well, if
I have to carry your husband out, you know, can
I And it's like, well, maybe your husband's in a
bad place. If I have to carry, and it's like,
that's what a fire department's for when things go bad.
It's no one's fault. It's a fire. You're supposed to
help people. It's not an you didn't do the right
thing with the fire exits or something. I mean, it's
the dumbest, craziest thing, and it's an admission that she
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obviously can't also effectively. Imagine, like, let me pause here
for a sec.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Imagine that you were a doctor and the doctor got
the job that they weren't qualified for, and the doctor said,
can I do open heart surgery on your husband? Well,
he got himself in a really bad place. If he
needs open heart surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Maybe you should have put the big max down before
he needed a cardiac surgeon. I mean, that's basically the
same logic applied.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like you're basically bragging to people that you can't do
the most serious parts of the job, and actually maybe
it's your fault if you need the help of the
most serious parts.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Of the job. I mean, I can't believe this is real.
The second part of it. I watched it a couple
of times. I think it's the favorite clip going around
the internet right now. I would also say Clay. The
first part, though, gets far less attention because the second
part is so egregious. But that first part where she says,
when you have a fire call, you want somebody to
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respond who looks like you. No, yeah, that's that's not
a thing. There's no part of it. It goes, oh, okay, well,
well the cop, I mean the cop the firefighters showed up.
You know, he's white, so I have this feeling or
that feeling or he's black or here's whatever that is.
But see, it's really central to the whole DEI concept.
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We need to have people who look like the people
that are going to serve, because somehow that will make
the people that are being served feel better instead of
these are the best people to do this job that
we could find absolutely anywhere, who will keep you and
your property as safe as possible. Right, I just completely
reject what she starts out what she's starts out with there,
which is, you want somebody you know the same thing
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of the cop. Do you care what color the cop is,
who rhymes or what well, I mean maybe gender. Do
you care what color the comp is who rhymes? No,
you don't. You just want the best cop?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yes, and you want the baddest asked person to be
able to handle the most significant aspects of the job.
And I just I can't believe that this would be
a promotional video. This is the other part. Both of
those things are awfully wrong, But as part of promotion videos,
you decide what you want to feature. This is my
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issue with Christy Nome. You know, if you go back
in time when you write your autobiography, everybody is limiting
the totality of their life into the one volume, and
the stories that you tell are the ones that you
feel are the most apropos and often put you in
the best like for people who want to see your story.
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It's important here to understand. Someone inside of the LA
Fire Department saw these promotional videos and said, oh, we
definitely need to feature this particular part of the interview
that this person, Christine Larson, I think is the name.
This person probably set for a forty five minute interview.
For people who don't know how this stuff works, some
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of you have probably been involved in promotional videos. Somebody,
an editor comes in and chops this up and says, oh,
that was a really good take. Oh we really like
the way that that you conveyed this. This is a
message we really want to get out there. And then
they chose to feature this. It's not like this was
a live interview and they decided, Oh, sometimes you say
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in a live interview things that are not the best
version of what you would like to put out there.
This is the message they wanted to convey. Hey, if
your husband needs to be carried out in the fire,
you're screwed. But man, we hope that you like the
fact that there's a woman firefighter showing up. It's actually
insulting also to a lot of other female firefighters who
may be able to do the job a guy over
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their shoulder.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Maybe not very any, but some very you. But yes,
I would be curious to see how that goes. But
but to your point about about the way that this
is presented, this is the DEI firefighter putting forward their
best foot. This isn't an offhand comment at the firehouse
that got caught in one cell phone video. This is, Hey,
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we want to show you how great we are in
the LA Fire Department. And they're putting forward this video
that's supposed to make you think that they know what
they're doing and that they've got this under control. So
clearly not not confidence inspiring, and given what has gone on,
I mean, the the absolute devastation these there's these whole
areas on the Palisades, most notably there are other areas
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I know as well, Clay. They're not going to be
people aren't going to be able to live there for years.
It will take years to rebuild if they decide to
rebuild in these areas. If some people may just decide
just to you know, to take the insurance money on
the house, all the land and move, I don't know
how that's going to work out. There are huge problems
also with the insurance, you know, the fire insurance industry
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in these areas too. And it's you know, California has
weighed in, right, so the California and just have you
seen some of this people. There are lots of people
who lost their plans in the Palisades just this year
or in the last year, I should say it's twenty
twenty five now, relatively recently. And it's because California puts
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all these mandates for you know, what level of coverage
there can be, how much coverage, how expensive it can be,
and so then they also have this uh, this state
fond to forget what it's called. There's this fair fair
I think where that's your insurance of last resort for
fire home insurance and it's nowhere near enough to cover
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the homes, right so they so they have a pool
that is not going to be sufficient to cover the damage.
After California, his mandates made it so that some of
the largest insurers pulled out entirely. And you know, you
sit here and you go, this is just again poor manage.
It's poor management of everything, poor management of fire, poor
management of insurance, poor management across the board. You don't
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want to be in a state run by Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Can we go to this call because I think Jeremy's
gonna speak for a lot of firefighters out there who
just heard the clip that we played of that LA firefighter.
And Jeremy, what's your reaction when you hear this highly
paid LA firefighter saying, Hey, if your husband's gonna needs
to be carried out, he found himself in a bad spot.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Four hundred grand, Clay, four hundred grand. Sorry, go ahead, Jeremy.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I think she's a complete and total moron. Number one
is never the victim's fault at all. Yeah, it is
a situation that happened, and I don't care the house
called on fire. You may have been asleep down your trap.
How is that your pahont But I.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Mean, isn't that one of the key jobs of a
firefighter would be to get anybody out? And so when
you're saying, oh, he got himself into a bad spot,
I mean, this has to infuriate firefighters everywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I would think, oh, oh.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It completely ticks me out, because my thing is we
do it to save lives, not property. Lives. Property houses
and stuff can be rebuilt. You cannot get your life back.
And another thing that really aggravated me about her comment
was if you can't carry them out, you drag them out.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yes, sir, yeah, thank you, thank you for calling in Jeremy,
I mean, Clay, this is this is where you see
the people that always claim diversity doesn't mean less capable.
You know, when you have a focus on diverse city,
meaning when you're hiring for diversity, when you're advancing people
for that reason, it always is shown to be false.
(30:07):
They're there because if your focus is merit, then you
don't have to talk about DEI. So the moment that
you're focusing on DEEI, you're not focusing on merit. So
these things work. This is they work, you know, in
distinction to each other, in contradiction to each other.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But we'll come back in a second. Breaking news I
just saw speaking of DEI Meta, Facebook is ending all
DEI programs in the company. So Zuckerberg said, hey, we're
done with fact checking. This is a headline that I
just got from Axios Exclusive three minutes ago. They are
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ending DEI in in Meta, which is big in Silicon
Valley because this has been one of the places that
has most foisted DEI upon us.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
We'll talk more about that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I just think of timing is interesting because we're having
the LA wildfire discussion in the random fire chief who
says you can't actually do the job. Your husband's screwed
basically if he ends up in need.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Also, i'd love to hear from other firefighters when you
hear that audio, what your reaction is. Appreciate the call
from Alabama eight hundred and two A two two eight
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big TikTok hearing at the Supreme Court today, Buck, and
it's going to be intriguing to see what they do
about the potential looming TikTok band.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We'll talk about all that more.
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What is it when you're just football all weekends?
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It's playoff season. So I'm going to watch the Ohio
State Texas game tonight and then I'm watching all six
games on the weekend. I meant to tell you you
haven't seen Gladiator two yet, Right, No, how was it?
Speaker 6 (34:33):
It was?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I would give it a solid I mean, if you
just Gladiator one is a ten, right.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I agreed with that, Clay and I I think I
think you are about two letter grades nicer about movies
in general than I am. You're you're nicer about movie reviews.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I would give it a seven, so it would have
if it stood alone as a movie and Gladiator one
had never occurred, it would be seen, I think as
better even than it is because it's being judged in
the context of the original Gladiator. I would give it
a solid seven out of ten worth going to see.
I meant to give my review. I think this was
like right around Christmas that I went to go see
(35:11):
the movie. I don't know how many other people went
out and saw it, but I would say a solid
seven out of ten worth going to see. I don't
even know if it's still on in the theater or
if you can now get it and stream it.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It would definitely be worth streaming at home. I haven't
been to a movie alone in a very long I
think I've done once or twice before when I really
wanted to see a movie by myself. I saw The
Passion of the Christ alone. That's I think the only
movie that I've ever seen in theater. And he saw
Mel Gibson's making the rounds these days. He was on
The Rogan Show. But I might go see Nose Faratu.
(35:47):
I'm trying to get myself up to the Have you
guys seen this the remake of the original Nose Faratu?
Have you seen the original? I have not seen the original.
I'm a big branch Stokers Dracula both movie and book fan,
but I hear this movie. I don't know if you
read the reviews, it's a little uh dark and funky
stuff going on. Bad review Oh, Producer Ali says bad reviews.
(36:08):
I thought the.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Reviews were actually pretty good. The original Nose Faratu. I
took a German film course and I wrote a paper
on the original Nose Faratu movies.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's like the biggest gut course I've ever heard of.
I took a German film course in college.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I also play Russian Russian cinema Russian cinema courses. Totalitarian
Films was actually really triumph the Wills, like I watched
all those movies actually really worth watching the original Nose Faratu,
which is the original Dracula movie nineteen twenty two. I
think it's a silent film classic. I wish you gotta
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watch it.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I wish I could have hung out with Clay in
German film class in college.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
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Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Congratulations
to Notre Dame fans. You can party like it's nineteen
eighty eight. You're in a championship game. Buck may have
no idea what that actually means, but I bet we
have a lot of Golden Domers that are listening. Big
win last night over Penn State. I am in snowy Nashville, Buck,
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where we are getting absolutely slammed with what Southerners would
consider to be a massive amount of snow. It's going
to be six to eight inches before all is said
and done. All the schools are closed. If you hear
kids running around and screaming, that's probably going to be
kids in my house that are out and about with
sleds and everything else. And so all of that underway,
(00:44):
we got a bunch of legal happenings that continued fallout
of the wildfires in Los Angeles and the movement by
the way of a lot of sporting events. I mean,
but the playoff game there that the Rams were going
to host being moved to Arizona, and the Lakers games
being postponed. I mean, there's basically continued mess there. Curfew
(01:07):
in place, after dark. There are looting issues that are
happening in some of these neighborhoods with the burned out homes,
which is just absolutely indefensible on top of the indefensible
nature of so much of the response to these wildfires.
Will continue to talk about that. But the story of
the day Donald Trump officially sentenced in the sham New
(01:31):
York City case having to do with business records. And
after all of this, after months of trial, after.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Years of legal wranglings.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
After charges being brought in DC and Atlanta, in New
York City and in Miami, effectively all those cases are done,
and the sentencing has now been complete, and they gave
Donald Trump an unconditional discharge, meaning, hey, there is no
punishment at all. We're not even going to find you.
(02:06):
This case is over. There's no jail time, there is
basically no consequence at all. And I'm seeing buck even
left wingers that hate Trump are sort of facing this
existential crisis of their own creation where they sit around
and they say, wait, nothing actually is happening. After MSNBC
(02:29):
and CNN and left wing legal analysts have gotten them
all gigged up for nine years that Trump was going
to face his day in court and there would be
a reckoning. Actually nothing at all has happened. Judge merchand
unconditionally discharges him. They're trying to dance around and say,
always a convicted felon. I still think this case is
(02:50):
going to get tossed on appeal, I really do. But
in the meantime there are no consequences whatsoever. And in
ten days Trump is raising his right hand and takes
over as President of the United States with a full
House and a full Senate behind him.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I know that a lot of things came together to
make Trump president again, but it is hard at this
point I would argue to look back and not come
away thinking that law fair against Trump may have been
the biggest political own goal we've ever seen. I've you know,
(03:28):
when you look at the numbers after the mar A
Lago raid and after it was clear they were criminally
prosecuting Trump, it was just it was Trump's party. The
Republicans didn't want anybody else, don't want to talk about
anybody else. Primary was a non primary effectively, and now
maybe that would have happened anyway, But I think it's
hard to look at where the numbers were before that
I think that this was something that blew up in
(03:51):
their faces in a way that is truly epic, and
it's hard to imagine. It's hard to imagine anything being
so poorly planned as the four criminal prosecutions of Donald Trump,
all of which came to nothing other than making him
president again. Yeah, you know, and this is really important
(04:13):
because lawfair is the end of the republic. If it
becomes standardized lawfair in politics, that can get rid of
a political candidate because you don't like him means that
we no longer have a free and fair political system,
not worthy of being called such.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And the only way for it to be defeated really
was this, meaning that going forward, anybody who and it's
always Democrats to do this stuff, but anybody who thinks, oh,
I'm going to take this person off the political battlefield
by bringing some bogus charge, by having some partisan da as.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know, my so called political hitman. If you will
to take this person and prosecute them, they're going to say,
wait a second, what happened with Trump when they did that?
Oh yeah, that was a really bad idea. And it
was a really bad idea because the American people rejected
it and the American people. As much as sometimes it
feels like, oh my gosh, how can so many people
(05:12):
believe this? And so many people wear masks during COVID
and all these things, we got this one right as
a country. This was a critical stress test of our
political system, and now Donald Trump gets to the rewards.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think it's important to go back and think about
what their goal was and to your point, see what
happens with it blowing up in their face. Their plan
was to put Trump. I really think this is what
their their thought process tell me if you disagree with
any of this buck. I think they thought when they
raided mar A Lago and began the Lawfair in Earnest,
(05:48):
that they were going to pump up Trump's numbers in
the Republican primary, and that that would make him the nominee,
but that the larger American voting public, that is the
swing voter, so to speak, and the anti Trump element,
would actually guarantee to them that there was no way
(06:09):
Trump could be elected once he was charged with crimes.
So it was diabolical in this respect. I think they
were right that Republicans would rally around Trump when the
Lawfair began, and I think to Trump's credit, he got
that right. I think their miscalculation was they never really
thought that Trump would be strengthened with the so called
(06:33):
swing voters of America based on the lawfair that they
brought to bear against it. And to your point, that's
where they were wrong in their calculus.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, the failure of analysis from their part was it
would make him the nominee and force and make sure
he lost the election. And instead it made him the
nominee and made sure he won the election, right actually,
and was a major part of it. And we haven't
even added into this the two attempted assassinations of Donald Trump,
the way that they responded to getting shot in the ear.
Do you remember that, everybody who's just a few months
(07:01):
ago Trump got shot in the ear. The guy took
an ar round in the ear and basically said, let's go,
let's fight up on the stage while he had blood
dripping down from his head. I mean, it was a
remarkable year in American politics, in American history last year,
and so you know, going into this inauguration, to say
there's a sense of history to it all and a
(07:22):
sense of destiny to it all, I think is perhaps
an understatement and the final collapse play of the law
fair right before it. His victory is absolute. The victory
is complete, top to bottom. They pushed this. This was
the first case they pushed through so that then they
could let him, let him go anyway. I mean, the
whole thing was such a sham. It's like saying that
(07:43):
he was Hitler, which they also never believed. It's also
the case.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And I like to look decades and maybe even farther
than that into the future, what we lived through in
twenty twenty four, that election cycle. One hundred years from now,
it will be a best selling book that to the
extent that books are read in the traditional way, which
I still think they will. One hundred years from now,
(08:10):
everybody will be dissecting this book and it'll be a
number one best seller, and people will say, can you
believe what that twenty twenty four American presidential election was like?
Long after every single person here is passed, we will
not be around when historians really write and grapple with
(08:31):
the major issues that took place in this election. I
like to go back and sometimes read books about historic
election seasons. I think I even told you Buck, I
did my history thesis on the eighteen sixty four presidential
election between Abraham Lincoln and George McClellan, which is one
of the most staggering elections in American political history. I mean,
(08:52):
think about that. For those of us who are history
nerds and Civil War history nerds in particular, you had
Lincoln's former chief general running against him in the middle
of the Civil War. Like, I mean, that is like
hard to even comprehend what something like that would look like.
And so you go back. I would encourage people who
(09:14):
really are fans of history. There's a great book about
the eighteen sixty four presidential election, but what we just
lived through the twenty twenty four presidential election. One hundred
years from now, Like I'm talking about that eighteen sixty
four election, there will be people out there saying, man,
you got to go read this new book about the
twenty twenty four presidential Like I had no idea how
crazy it was.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like it was an unbelievable thing that we just lived through.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I think the biggest takeaway is an important one
that you laid out and we've been talking about for
some time the president now is that if you try
to put your chief political adversary in prison for the
rest of his life, that you actually see that blow
up in your face, and that it works against you electorally.
If it had worked, everybody would start to try to
(09:59):
put in place law like this. I think we went
to the brink, but I think the American public thankfully
delivered Trump such a win that a lot of people
will say, whoaoa, whoa. You don't want to do to
your opponent what Trump did to Biden in twenty twenty four.
Let the voters decide, don't try to put him in
prison for the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And also it's a reminder that prosecutors can figure out
a million different ways if they want to, if they're
unethical to come up with some way that you did
something that violates the law. A violation of the law
resulting in a criminal prosecution should be a thing that
was clearly bad, that clearly did some harm to a
(10:39):
person or an entity, that is real harm, and that
anyone can hear about and go, well, you shouldn't have
done that. You know you need to pay, You need
to pay the price. Nobody heard about this New York case,
who was emotionally psychologically stable through this election and said,
oh huh, he he misrepresented in his business records the
transaction for the legal hush money payment. It was insane.
(11:01):
It was the most absurd case of all of them,
and all of them were absurd, but this one was
particularly preposterous. And I also just think that, you know,
we need to remind ourselves. People can stretch the law
to do a whole bunch of different things. There needs
to be an ethical moral foundation to it. Did this
person do a bad thing? Yes or no? And the
answer with Trump is no, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Am I wrong, buck? And we can answer this when
we come back from the break. Thinking in a larger context,
this also may well rep well, I'm curious because we
don't know, but I wonder if this represents the end of,
to a certain extent, the politics of personal destruction where
the American public, because I don't know that anybody has
(11:45):
been attacked more aggressively for personal foibles than Donald Trump has,
maybe in any of our lives. Bill Clinton certainly had
some element. You can argue he brought that along in
the White House, but Clinton actually didn't have any consequences.
Now Trump hasn't had any consequences. Is one of the
legacies of Trump going to be that going back in
(12:08):
time twenty years, forty years, thirty, whatever you want to say,
and wagging your finger and saying he did this, that
the American public just doesn't care. Or is Trump such
a unique political talent that he was able to overcome
all that and it would destroy other politicians if they
had similar things in their background. I just I think
it's an interesting way to think going forward. Are we
(12:30):
going to value people not based on their entire worst
thing of history or not? Going forward?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think I see the tremendous gifts and also some
of the idiosyncrasies and shortcomings of Trump with some clarity.
I'd like to think so, at least I think on
this score he's almost superhuman, meaning the amount of incoming,
like he's a unicorns in that way. Yes, the amount
of incoming that he can take, the amount of artillery
(13:00):
fire so to speak, that you can throw in his
direction and he just keeps coming. I think it would
have I think it would have broken a lot. A
lot of other people would have said, I want to
play golf. Okay, let's just negotiate this out. Let's figure
this out. But with Trump man, he loves a fight.
He you know, the moment somebody wants to throw a
punch at him, he is he is always down to CounterPunch.
(13:22):
So it's remarkable and I honestly, today's a day everybody
should everybody who've supported Trump and voted for Trump. His
victory is complete today in a sense. I know, the
inauguration's coming up and there'll be a lot more of
this feeling, Clay, But the defeat of the law fair
is absolute now and it's an incredible thing that he
was able to do. And and you know, the good
(13:42):
guys won this round, so you know, go into the
weekend feeling good about it. We'll also talk a little
bit more about the analysis on this, and and of
course updates on the wildfires in California, Lot Clay, a
lot of people talking about Arson now, yeah, which is
really really disconcerting. I mean, not not verified yet, but
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email access. Tamara with a great question. She says, Clay
and Buck, I was wondering besides the consequences of a
convicted felon status here to America like being prohibited from
possessing firearms, losing her Fourth Amendment rights. But abroad, there
are many countries you cannot travel to as a convicted felon.
How the hell can you put that kind of sentence
onto a president elect? How can you even travel to
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meet foreign leaders as a convicted felon? This is so ridiculous. Well,
I do think that he's going to uh end up
getting this whole thing tossed on appeal. I agree with
Clay on that, so I think that the conviction will
be overturned in the meantime, though, Clay, do you see
any legal ramification of the conviction minus any actual punishment.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I do think that what we're going to get into
here on appeal, and it's going to be very new.
And we talked about this a little bit, is to
what extent is this involved in his presidential campaign?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Point one?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
In other words, where is the scope of his public
versus private behavior? Here? Point two is and I still
believe this is supremely important. To what extent is that
second crime fully defined? And is it legally permissible? And
this again is getting really into the weeds on this,
(17:31):
but it's required that in order to elevate a bookkeeping
misdemeanor to a felony, it has to have been essentially
in furtherance of another crime, and they never really have
specified exactly what the hook is on that other crime.
That is something that I think the appeals court are
going to look into in.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
A big way.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Having said all that, the punishment is virtually non existent,
I don't think anybody's going to care.
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(20:05):
strong dudes. I can't believe that this is considered controversial.
But if your house was on fire and you had
choice choice as to who should save your family, and
the options were four women who are five foot four
and weigh one hundred and thirty pounds, and they had
to carry out your family, they had to carry out
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your animals, they had to carry out your loved ones,
friend's family, anybody who's in the home, or you could
pick four six foot four dudes who weigh two hundred
and twenty pounds. Is anybody out there saying, yeah, I'd
like the five foot four women to actually save me.
It is important some of these jobs, men in general
(20:51):
are better able to do the job.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
This is a video clip that has gone viral that
I just find completely and totally in This is the
LA Fire Department Chief Christine Larson. She is talking about
whether or not she can do the job. And she said,
and she says, specifically, am I going to be able
to carry your husband out of a fire? He got
(21:15):
himself in the wrong place? Excuse me, listen to this.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
You want to see somebody that responds to your house,
your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call,
that looks like you. It gives that person a little
bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better.
Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't
carry my husband out of a fire, which my response
is he got himself in the wrong place. If I
have to carry him out.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Of a fire, whoa clay hold on. There's two there's
two big problems here. First of all, I mean, I'll
start this is one hundred percent reel. This is for real,
out there, absolutely real. Okay. So there. This is the
promotion of DEI as a concept on video at the
Los Angeles Fire Department. Okay. The second part. First, because
(21:59):
that's one of the most outrageous. People say well, if
I have to carry your husband out, you know, can
I And it's like, well, maybe your husband's in a
bad place. If I have to carry, and it's like,
that's what a fire department's for when things go bad.
It's no one's fault. It's a fire. You're supposed to
help people. It's not an you didn't do the right
thing with the fire exits or something. I mean, it's
the dumbest, craziest thing, and it's an admission that she
(22:22):
obviously can't also effectively. Imagine, like, let me pause here
for a sec.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Imagine that you were a doctor and the doctor got
the job that they weren't qualified for, and the doctor said,
can I do open heart surgery on your husband? Well,
he got himself in a really bad place. If he
needs open heart surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Maybe you should have put the big max down before
he needed a cardiac surgeon. I mean, that's basically the
same logic applied.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like you're basically bragging to people that you can't do
the most serious parts of the job, and actually maybe
it's your fault if you need the help of the
most serious parts.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Of the job. I mean, I can't believe this is real.
The second part of it. I watched it a couple
of times. I think it's the favorite clip going around
the internet right now. I would also say Clay. The
first part, though, gets far less attention because the second
part is so egregious. But that first part where she says,
when you have a fire call, you want somebody to
(23:21):
respond who looks like you. No, yeah, that's that's not
a thing. There's no part of it. It goes, oh, okay, well,
well the cop, I mean the cop the firefighters showed up.
You know, he's white, so I have this feeling or
that feeling or he's black or here's whatever that is.
But see, it's really central to the whole DEI concept.
(23:42):
We need to have people who look like the people
that are going to serve, because somehow that will make
the people that are being served feel better instead of
these are the best people to do this job that
we could find absolutely anywhere, who will keep you and
your property as safe as possible. Right, I just completely
reject what she starts out what she's starts out with there,
which is, you want somebody you know the same thing
(24:03):
of the cop. Do you care what color the cop is,
who rhymes or what well, I mean maybe gender. Do
you care what color the comp is who rhymes? No,
you don't. You just want the best cop?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yes, and you want the baddest asked person to be
able to handle the most significant aspects of the job.
And I just I can't believe that this would be
a promotional video. This is the other part. Both of
those things are awfully wrong, But as part of promotion videos,
you decide what you want to feature. This is my
(24:34):
issue with Christy Nome. You know, if you go back
in time when you write your autobiography, everybody is limiting
the totality of their life into the one volume, and
the stories that you tell are the ones that you
feel are the most apropos and often put you in
the best like for people who want to see your story.
(24:54):
It's important here to understand. Someone inside of the LA
Fire Department saw these promotional videos and said, oh, we
definitely need to feature this particular part of the interview
that this person, Christine Larson, I think is the name.
This person probably set for a forty five minute interview.
For people who don't know how this stuff works, some
(25:16):
of you have probably been involved in promotional videos. Somebody,
an editor comes in and chops this up and says, oh,
that was a really good take. Oh we really like
the way that that you conveyed this. This is a
message we really want to get out there. And then
they chose to feature this. It's not like this was
a live interview and they decided, Oh, sometimes you say
(25:38):
in a live interview things that are not the best
version of what you would like to put out there.
This is the message they wanted to convey. Hey, if
your husband needs to be carried out in the fire,
you're screwed. But man, we hope that you like the
fact that there's a woman firefighter showing up. It's actually
insulting also to a lot of other female firefighters who
may be able to do the job a guy over
(26:00):
their shoulder.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Maybe not very any, but some very you. But yes,
I would be curious to see how that goes. But
but to your point about about the way that this
is presented, this is the DEI firefighter putting forward their
best foot. This isn't an offhand comment at the firehouse
that got caught in one cell phone video. This is, Hey,
(26:24):
we want to show you how great we are in
the LA Fire Department. And they're putting forward this video
that's supposed to make you think that they know what
they're doing and that they've got this under control. So
clearly not not confidence inspiring, and given what has gone on,
I mean, the the absolute devastation these there's these whole
areas on the Palisades, most notably there are other areas
(26:46):
I know as well, Clay. They're not going to be
people aren't going to be able to live there for years.
It will take years to rebuild if they decide to
rebuild in these areas. If some people may just decide
just to you know, to take the insurance money on
the house, all the land and move, I don't know
how that's going to work out. There are huge problems
also with the insurance, you know, the fire insurance industry
(27:09):
in these areas too. And it's you know, California has
weighed in, right, so the California and just have you
seen some of this people. There are lots of people
who lost their plans in the Palisades just this year
or in the last year, I should say it's twenty
twenty five now, relatively recently. And it's because California puts
(27:30):
all these mandates for you know, what level of coverage
there can be, how much coverage, how expensive it can be,
and so then they also have this uh, this state
fond to forget what it's called. There's this fair fair
I think where that's your insurance of last resort for
fire home insurance and it's nowhere near enough to cover
(27:51):
the homes, right so they so they have a pool
that is not going to be sufficient to cover the damage.
After California, his mandates made it so that some of
the largest insurers pulled out entirely. And you know, you
sit here and you go, this is just again poor manage.
It's poor management of everything, poor management of fire, poor
management of insurance, poor management across the board. You don't
(28:14):
want to be in a state run by Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Can we go to this call because I think Jeremy's
gonna speak for a lot of firefighters out there who
just heard the clip that we played of that LA firefighter.
And Jeremy, what's your reaction when you hear this highly
paid LA firefighter saying, Hey, if your husband's gonna needs
to be carried out, he found himself in a bad spot.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Four hundred grand, Clay, four hundred grand. Sorry, go ahead, Jeremy.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I think she's a complete and total moron. Number one
is never the victim's fault at all. Yeah, it is
a situation that happened, and I don't care the house
called on fire. You may have been asleep down your trap.
How is that your pahont But I.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Mean, isn't that one of the key jobs of a
firefighter would be to get anybody out? And so when
you're saying, oh, he got himself into a bad spot,
I mean, this has to infuriate firefighters everywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I would think, oh, oh.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It completely ticks me out, because my thing is we
do it to save lives, not property. Lives. Property houses
and stuff can be rebuilt. You cannot get your life back.
And another thing that really aggravated me about her comment
was if you can't carry them out, you drag them out.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yes, sir, yeah, thank you, thank you for calling in Jeremy,
I mean, Clay, this is this is where you see
the people that always claim diversity doesn't mean less capable.
You know, when you have a focus on diverse city,
meaning when you're hiring for diversity, when you're advancing people
for that reason, it always is shown to be false.
(30:07):
They're there because if your focus is merit, then you
don't have to talk about DEI. So the moment that
you're focusing on DEEI, you're not focusing on merit. So
these things work. This is they work, you know, in
distinction to each other, in contradiction to each other.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But we'll come back in a second. Breaking news I
just saw speaking of DEI Meta, Facebook is ending all
DEI programs in the company. So Zuckerberg said, hey, we're
done with fact checking. This is a headline that I
just got from Axios Exclusive three minutes ago. They are
(30:45):
ending DEI in in Meta, which is big in Silicon
Valley because this has been one of the places that
has most foisted DEI upon us.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
We'll talk more about that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I just think of timing is interesting because we're having
the LA wildfire discussion in the random fire chief who
says you can't actually do the job. Your husband's screwed
basically if he ends up in need.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Also, i'd love to hear from other firefighters when you
hear that audio, what your reaction is. Appreciate the call
from Alabama eight hundred and two A two two eight
A two. And we also need to talk speaking of courts,
big TikTok hearing at the Supreme Court today, Buck, and
it's going to be intriguing to see what they do
about the potential looming TikTok band.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We'll talk about all that more.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
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I am, I'm, like, you know, doing the solo thing
this weekend. Carrie is going to visit family and because
I'm sick of the reprieve of you know, sitting around
and blowing my nose and drinking tea for a couple
of days here Ginger my dog. You guys all know
(34:08):
that also with the in laws, and so, uh, I'm
wondering what it is that you plan on doing this weekend? Football?
What is it when you're just football all weekends?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It's playoff season. So I'm going to watch the Ohio
State Texas game tonight and then I'm watching all six
games on the weekend. I meant to tell you you
haven't seen Gladiator two yet, Right, No, how was it?
Speaker 6 (34:33):
It was?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I would give it a solid I mean, if you
just Gladiator one is a ten, right.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I agreed with that, Clay and I I think I
think you are about two letter grades nicer about movies
in general than I am. You're you're nicer about movie reviews.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I would give it a seven, so it would have
if it stood alone as a movie and Gladiator one
had never occurred, it would be seen, I think as
better even than it is because it's being judged in
the context of the original Gladiator. I would give it
a solid seven out of ten worth going to see.
I meant to give my review. I think this was
like right around Christmas that I went to go see
(35:11):
the movie. I don't know how many other people went
out and saw it, but I would say a solid
seven out of ten worth going to see. I don't
even know if it's still on in the theater or
if you can now get it and stream it.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It would definitely be worth streaming at home. I haven't
been to a movie alone in a very long I
think I've done once or twice before when I really
wanted to see a movie by myself. I saw The
Passion of the Christ alone. That's I think the only
movie that I've ever seen in theater. And he saw
Mel Gibson's making the rounds these days. He was on
The Rogan Show. But I might go see Nose Faratu.
(35:47):
I'm trying to get myself up to the Have you
guys seen this the remake of the original Nose Faratu?
Have you seen the original? I have not seen the original.
I'm a big branch Stokers Dracula both movie and book fan,
but I hear this movie. I don't know if you
read the reviews, it's a little uh dark and funky
stuff going on. Bad review Oh, Producer Ali says bad reviews.
(36:08):
I thought the.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Reviews were actually pretty good. The original Nose Faratu. I
took a German film course and I wrote a paper
on the original Nose Faratu movies.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's like the biggest gut course I've ever heard of.
I took a German film course in college.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I also play Russian Russian cinema Russian cinema courses. Totalitarian
Films was actually really triumph the Wills, like I watched
all those movies actually really worth watching the original Nose Faratu,
which is the original Dracula movie nineteen twenty two. I
think it's a silent film classic. I wish you gotta
(36:44):
watch it.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I wish I could have hung out with Clay in
German film class in college.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
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