January 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Everyone is having a “how is this possible” moment about the LA fires. CA has forgotten what the primary purpose of government is. Important lesson for America: we can’t “California” this country. People are voting by population.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. Buck is caught
in South Florida traffick, but he will join me at
some point during the course of Monday's program. This is
the last full week rejoice of Joe Biden's tenure as
President of the United States. We are officially seven days
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away about this time. One week from today, Donald Trump
will be raising his right hand to become the next
President of the United States. We will be live with
the show and all of you in Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
D C.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Buck and I are both going to arrive on Friday evening.
We'll be there for the sites, the sounds, the festivities
of inaugural weekend, and then we will be getting hopefully
just an up close look at what day that many
of us have been waiting for for a very very
long time, for that Monday inauguration. That's letting you know
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where we are headed. What's going on this week, Well,
we have the confirmation hearings beginning with Pete Hegseth on Tuesday,
the Battle over Pete Hegseth, Tulci Gabbard, RFK, Junior, Cash Patel,
among others officially underway. It is looking very good at
this point for all of Trump's current nominations to be confirmed.
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But we will see how all those hearings go, and
we will continue to break all of that down for you.
But I would say the biggest story of the weekend
has continued to be and the biggest story of last
week has continued to be the wildfires that have been
raging in Los Angeles that are not yet fully out,
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and the fallout from those wildfires beginning in earnest And
one of the challenges has been determining what is true
and what is false. So I spent a lot of
time over the weekend diving into the particulars of this
story so we'd be prepared to talk about it and
share with you actual true details here because so many
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of you are in California, so many of you have
spent time in the city of Los Angeles. In fact,
I believe the team shared the three states. Probably not
a surprise that we have the biggest audience in Texas, Florida,
and California. Now those are three of the most popular
states in the country. That's not a surprise, but also
three states where we dominate in many different markets, whether
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it's number one in Sacramento, number one in San Diego,
number one in Austin, number one in Houston, just absolutely
gobsmacking growth all over the state of Florida, particularly South
Florida where Buck lives. Right now, we appreciate all of
you listening, but I wanted to make sure that we
got all this right. And then this morning, as I
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was doing my prep, I want to give credit because
it was fantastically well done. There's an article from Tom Clintock,
who is we have asked to come on as a guest.
By the way, this morning I asked our team to
reach out to him, a Republican who represents California's fifth
congressional district, and I thought, probably instead of focusing on
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the specific failures right now, I want to rebut the
idea that is the only response that leftists seemed to have,
which is, oh, this is caused by climate change. Oh well,
climate change caused this because one of the challenges associated
with climate change is if you cite climate change, for
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many people, it is just such a reverential belief that
there is no argument that is able to be made
to the contrary. And so I thought McClintock Congressrom McClintock
did a fantastic job kind of giving the history of
LA and I wanted to share a little bit of
what I was reading from him this morning in the
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and I get again. I give credit to the Wall
Street Journal editorial page as well well. And it starts
with the discovery basically of Los Angeles' San Pedro Bay
when Juan Cabrio arrived in the autumn of fifteen forty two.
He named it the Bay of Smokes because there were
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so many wildfires which were common in the Los Angeles area.
And we're talking about wildfires now, but for long before
basically there were any Europeans at all in Los Angeles
or in the California area. I thought this was really fascinating.
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Prior to the year eighteen hundred, based on studies, California
lost an average of around four and a half million
acres to fires every single year.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That is, these.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Fires long before anybody ever conceived of climate change, before
there were very many humans at all that were even
living in this area. Certainly before there was any substantial
population of Europeans that were living in this area. They
had four and a half million acres of fires every year.
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Wildfires were actually a natural consequence of the California landscape,
and then due to human ingenuity and study in the
decades ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
This is again.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
According to Tom McLintock, Congressman, by the end of the
twentieth century, we had driven that all the way down
to losing around two hundred and fifty thousand acres of.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Wildfire burns a year. So, with all of.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Human ingenuity coming into place, we had driven down the
amount of wildfires that were happening from four and a
half million acres a year on average prior to eighteen hundred. Again,
this is a pre industrialized California. We had driven this
all the way down to two hundred and fifty thousand acres. Well,
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that seems like a really impressive amount of work that
we've done. But in twenty twenty California had a four
point three million acre loss of wildfires, and between twenty
nineteen and twenty twenty three, an average of more than
one and a half million acres burned each year. So basically, suddenly,
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after having basically corralled this issue which had existed in
California prior to any sort of major human intervention, we
now have returned to a substantial amount of wildfire that
is taking place.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So what happened? Why? Why?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean this is again story matters and facts matter,
and trying to examine history matter in an intelligent fashion.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So think about this.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
We had basically conquered wildfires in California to a large extent.
You can't prevent them entirely because it is a natural
result of the habitat of California, the winds, the Santa
Ana winds, the foliage, all of these things conspired before
we were here to burn four and a half million acres.
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With great wildlife management, wildfire management, we had driven that down.
And then in the last few years, suddenly we're starting
to return to the natural the natural burn, even still
substantially less on average, but still the natural burn that
had already happened. And people out there are saying, well,
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this is climate change. Actually it's not if you look
at the history. And by the way, if you look
at the history of waterfall over the last one hundred
and fifty years or so, as I did because I'm
a nerd in the Los Angeles area, you can't assess
waterfall as a major change here right, It fluctuates pretty
consistently throughout all of this time. In other words, climate
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change is not to blame in fact, and this is
a really Now we're going to pivot into what changed? Okay,
why do we start to have some of these changes?
Environmental studies and the goals of the environmentalists to return
this landscape to more of a natural condition is actually
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now creating the same conditions that we had helped to
cure to limit the amount of fires that are going on. Again,
reading from congressome mclintock's piece here, which is so well done,
we'll share it on claymbuck dot com. I'm gonna tweet
this out from my own account at Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You can go follow it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Environmental studies now costs millions of dollars, and it takes
five point three years for any forest thinning project in
California to get approval. And often again they had been
doing logging, they had been grabbing timber. The amount of
timber harvested from public lands has declined seventy five percent
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since the eighties. Sheep and cattle, which were being allowed
to graze widely because they ate a lot of the foliage,
the underbrush that is creating so many of these fires
have been restricted by bureaucratic laws and fees, and all
of these things have created the overall recipe for these
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wildfires to return. And again I'm not getting into I
do think it's a really interesting discussion.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We'll dive into this more.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
The failures of water management, the failures of hey, how
do you not have a huge reservoir that could have
made a huge difference in the palisades. How is that
down when you've got somebody making seven hundred thousand dollars
a year. Those are let's analyze them on a particular basis.
Why were the fire high migrants not running? All of
those things will be examined, but I'm talking about the
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larger picture here. What occurred that actually created such a
fertile environment for wildfires like these to occur. The evidence
and data would suggest that it was a rejection of
the management techniques which had been incredibly successful in bringing
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back the amount of acreage that was burned on a
yearly basis. Dialing all of those back, in conjunction with
all of the political failures, created an environment that was
ripe to be exploited in the event that these wildfires
were to catch back on fire and were now creating
a scenario which was very similar through this whole region
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to what existed when Europeans arrived in the Los Angeles
area in the first place. And again we'll talk to
the congressman about this, but what did we do is
we allowed the environmentalists to create scenarios where all of
us lose, and they did so in the name of
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trying to make California better climate adaptable. In other words,
and this is probably not going to shock a lot
of you, but we were actually on the right track.
We were using decades of intelligent forestry management techniques and
then leftists in California, crazy environmentalists, took control of the
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political apparatus, repudiated and rejected many of the policies that
had created a vast reduction in wildfires. And now we
have a situation where we're basically returning the land to
what it was like in a pre intelligent data driven
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decision process. And the difference is we since then have
added millions of people into these areas where they've built homes,
and now many of those homes have been destroyed. It's
important to look at not only the specific failures, and
again I think that's important, and we'll talk about some
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of those too, because I spent a lot of time
over the weekend looking at them, the specific failures of
why can't California put out the fires once they start,
but also the larger picture of why was this area
so poised to catch fire and create such a problem.
The data would suggest that environmentalist, while claiming that climate
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change is the cause of this, actually caused these situation
themselves by returning the land to a pre rational analysis
that had driven down the overall.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Amount of fires.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Now, you're never going to start stop any all fires,
just like you're never going to stop all tornadoes or
you're not going to stop all hurricanes. Natural disasters are
bound to happen. But what you want to do, if
you can, is limit the overall ability of those fires
to have such a fertile terrain. And it appears the environmentalists,
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due to their failure, the ultimate people of California now
in those homes are paying the price on it. So
we'll dive into these. By the way, I'll take some
of your calls. I know a lot of you are
in the LA area. You may have seen this happen.
You may have lived there in the sixties, seventies, and
eighties as rational choices were being made and the amount
of burns were dropping substantially in that area. And now
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you're seeing all of this come back, and you're throwing
your hands up and saying, this is the result of
failed public policy. And then we'll get into how bad
is California that they can't put out fricking fires. That's
what a lot of you are asking as you were
sitting watching this over the course of the weekend. How
do we get to a place where California, which is
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is the fifth largest economy in the world, has a
government that's so inefficient they can't even put out fires.
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Let me hit you with this too. I'm still talking
about the California wildfire situation, and I thought this study
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is so important.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All of these people lecturing.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You about greenhouse gas emissions and everything else, they've created
a situation. Listen to this sentence which I read, and
I was pretty staggered. This is from the Wall Street
Journal editorial on the history of wildfires in California. A
UCLA study estimated California's twenty twenty fires alone released twice
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as much greenhouse gases into the atmosphere as had been
prevented by the previous eighteen years of primarily government enforced restrictions.
Think about how crazy that is. They are trying environmentalists
to return us to an era when four and a
half million acres burn, and in so doing they are
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releasing generational amounts of greenhouse gases, all in the name
of trying to save the planet. These people's brains are broken,
and I think Buck has said it well before. Climate
change is a religious belief for people who do not
have actual religious belief. They have just so completely given
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over their brains to this idea of climate change that
there is no talking with them because the data doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Matter to them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
They are just true believers that the planet is being
destroyed and that they alone can save it. It's really,
I think emblematic this entire story of how their failures
not only are making it tougher for everybody to make
a living, they're also making it worse than if they
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Welcome back Ahead and Clay Travis buck sext Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. Buck caught in
traffic in South Florida trying to get to Palm Beach.
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He's going to join us here at the top of
the next hour. I believe we are also scheduled to
be joined now. Appreciate everybody moving quickly on this. By
Congressoman M'Clintock, a Republican representing California's fifth congressional district who
I've been talking about, wrote such a fascinating piece about
the issue and history of wildfires in California. So that's
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the history that basically four and a half million acres
would burn every year before humans, certainly Europeans were involved
in California life at all. So this is a long,
forever basically issue that has existed for this climate. But
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I do think, and again I've been fired up about
this all weekend, so I've been reading all about it.
I do think everyone needs to have a real how
is that possible moment that they can't put the fire out.
California by itself is the fifth largest economy in the world,
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the fifth largest economy in the world. Many of you
out there in California are listening to me right now.
You guys are taxed at a level that the vast
majority of Americans are not taxed at. I know because
I've paid a lot of California taxes. I've worked a
lot with Fox Sports right at the intersection of Pico
and Motor in West La. I've spent a ton of
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time in La over the last decade. I actually love La.
I think California is a jewel of a place. I
understand why everybody wants to move there. It's spectacular the climate.
I always say, California is the only place I've ever
spent substantial periods of time where it's very common that
when you walk outside of sliding glass doors from indoors
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to outdoors, there's no change in the temperature at all
for huge portions.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
If you've ever spent any time in southern California, you
know what I'm talking about. Like you're inside, you know,
if you're in at Miami, where Buck lives a lot
of the time, you're in a frigid mall and you
walk outside and you get hit by that drenching, searing humidity.
The moment you walk outside of those sliding glass doors,
you're going from one environment to another. California is the
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only place I've ever spent a substantial period of my life.
There are parts of the country where this can be
true for certain months where huge parts of the year
you walk from an indoor mall area, indoor building straight
outside the temperature is the exact same.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It is, in many ways a perfect place to live.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I took my son out there last year and we
were walking around outside.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And He was like, is it always kind of like this? Dad?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I was like, yeah, LA weather's pretty good. It's why
they film movies out there, doesn't rain that often. It's
a beautiful place to live. But left wing politics has
destroyed much of it. And you really felt this during
COVID when they completely lost their minds LA did over restrictions.
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They made no sense at all. Orange County, those of
you listening to me right now in Orange County.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Was way saner.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And remember there was no data difference in totally locked
down in saying LA COVID perspectives and Orange County, even
though they overlap, moved south outside of LA, Orange County,
which tends to be more Republican, more rational. They got
through COVID better than LA did.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But think about where we are. They can't put out fires.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
If I told you, hey, what do you think is
the number one job in general of any government authority?
Putting out fires might be number one. What do you
expect the government to do?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I expect if there's a fire, that I can call
nine to one one and that they will come and
they will put it out so that the whole community
doesn't catch on fire.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That's why we have public firemen COVID.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I was tweeting about this. Some of you may have
seen it. People said, well, COVID is more of a failure.
Now Red States tended to get COVID right, but there
were at least arguments about how should we respond now.
People like me and back were right when we said
we can put kids back in school, don't need to
be wearing masks, keep the gyms open, let public parks
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remain open, let kids play sports. All those things we
were right about. But there were at least two different perspectives.
Everybody agrees the number one goal with fires is put
it out, but nobody else is out there like well.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, buy and large.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I know occasionally you'll say, well we need a public
safety fire or you know, managed burning. But I'm talking
about an unscheduled fire in a residential area. Democrat, Republican, Independent, Hey,
there's a house on fire. What should the government do?
The government should put it out. California doesn't have the
ability to put out fires.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
This is staggering.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I would argue again to you, maybe the number one
job that most of us would respect and expect a
government to be able to accomplish is when a fire
starts put it out. Yet they haven't been able to
figure out how to do that for now a week,
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and they've had ample time to try and figure it out,
and in the process, tens of thousands of people have
lost their homes.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
And if you see some of these videos from the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Sky, it's hard to believe how massive these fires became.
Fire hydrants ran out of water. The biggest reservoir near
the Palisades was down, and they couldn't figure out how
to fix it, and so it was completely empty. Do
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you think that might have made a difference in the
early start of the Palisades fire to have had that
huge reservoir filled with water.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It certainly couldn't have hurt.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Why wasn't the government able to respond in a more
rapid fashion to put the fires out to curtail it
before it became so overwhelming. Why was there no plan
in place? Why did LA and California at large have
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such ineffective and inefficient government that Karen Bass can barely
read public statements the mayor that Gavin Newsom shows up
and in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, which is
a relatively relaxed setting by and large for Gavin Newsom
to be doing an interview that he crumbles under the
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questions from Gavin Newsom, sorry from Anderson Cooper. Gavin Newsom
doesn't can't explain why the resources weren't there to fight
the fire. The government, by and large, my answer here
focuses on what the people who put the pressure on
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the government want to focus on. And I would submit
to you that California, because of its immense wealth, has
actually totally forgotten what the primary purpose of government is.
And instead of focusing on, hey, let's arrest criminals, let's
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put out fires, let's pick up garbage, let's stop low
level theft things, Let's have effective roads, let's have effective schools,
things that I think most of you out there, regardless
of your politics, would all say, yeah, those are things
that I would like for government to do a good
job of. They've moved on past those issues and they
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instead have decided that government should be a source for equity.
Putting out fires, Oh, that's yesterday's job. We're not even
concerned about that massive amounts of water when necessary to
put out fires, that's for nerds to worry about. We're
focused on equity. We're focusing on redressing decades of awfulness
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in the country, and so as a result, instead of
focusing on the things that government should focus on that
unite us all and that are important to all of us,
as a lot of left wing Democrats are now learning. Instead,
they decided, Hey, we want to make government an agent
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to address DEI. We want to put equity at the forefront.
We're going to make sure that we examine whether there
should be reparations for slavery, even though slavery was never
even legal in California. Putting my history nerd hat on here,
California never had a legal slave in the country in
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the entire history of its statehood. Slavery was never legal.
What in the world are you doing? In fact, if
you want to really be a history nerd, California historically
was actually a land of incredible opportunity for black people
all over the United States who moved to California and
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had more rights in a pre civil rights area than
almost anywhere else. Race relations is actually something that California
got right. But no, we're going to be focusing on
being sanctuary cities instead of putting out fires. And I
think it's a great example of what happens when a
community is so overrun with wealth. Because California, again by itself,
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is the fifth largest economy in the world, and by
and large, many people in California are extremely wealthy that
you stop focusing on the things that matter to everyone
and start addressing a tiny sliver of your population that
decided that they were going to get super active in
state politics, and as a result, you fail across the board.
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I mean, California has three lesbian women named Kirsten or
Kristin or whatever the heck their names are at the
head of the fire department, and they spend a great
deal of time bragging about that, but they can't put
out fires anymore. And I think it's such an important
lesson for America. We can't California this country because if
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we do, and we almost did, because remember Kamala Harris
would have been the ultimate Californication of the country if
we had elevated her to President of the United States.
When you see what Gavin Newsom is doing, when you
see what Karen bass is doing, when you see generational
incompetence that Californians have elevated to leadership, understand what the
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motivation for that is. It's not competence, it's reponance. It's
the idea that they need to focus on apologizing for
America's past imagined sins and not actually focus on making
life better for Californians. And if you say to me, Okay,
you got that totally wrong, I would say people in
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California are voting with their popular According to u HAUL,
the last five years, California has led the nation on
people leaving that state. In general, whether more people are
moving into your state than leaving it is a great
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sign for how leadership is going. Every year up until
twenty twenty, since it became a state in eighteen fifty,
California increased population. Beautiful place, amazing spot to live. Eighteen
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fifty all the way to twenty twenty. That's a long
time where population constantly kept going up. Starting in twenty twenty,
people began to bail. Last five years, U haul number
one state to leave California. I would submit to you
that these wildfires are a perfect metaphor for what California
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has done to destroy what is in many ways America's
Garden of Eden, particularly southern California, which there are communities
out there. I was talking about the environment. I mean,
there's just the temperature. I mean, there's not very many
places in the world. There are a lot of houses
in southern California that don't have heating or air. You
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talk about a garden of Eden, you can build a
house in California. I had a good friend lived in
San Clemente. Her house did not have heating or air,
and I could I was like, what this is. Believe
I couldn't even conceive of it. That's how perfect that
environment is, and that perfection has led to destruction because
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of left wing leadership. I'll take some of your calls,
by the way, maybe a lot of Californians who want
to weigh in Buckton and join me. He's caught in traffic.
It's gonna be with me. Hour number two eight hundred
two A two two eight a two. Some of you
who are longtime Los Angelinos, I guarantee you you're nodding along.
If you live in Orange County, you're nodding along. You're
saying you're nailing it. You are describing the trajectory of
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what life here has become. Things got so good they
didn't even need to care about the things that matter
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A bunch
of you want to weigh in.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Katie.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Katie in Costa Mesa, California. You were at the Trump
rally where Trump spent You said a ton of the
time saying, hey, we got water and fire issues all
over California that aren't being addressed.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, absolutely, Cray, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
What was the discussion you thought Trump nailed it?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Well, basically, So this was in October of twenty twenty three,
so you know he was out on the you know, campaigning,
and my sister and I and several people went. And
the interesting thing about it was is he spent I'm
not kidding it with a slideshow on the Delta smelt
and the fact that he had and I think the
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conversation was so interesting because we had had so much rain.
I've lived in California twenty four years plus a little
bit more. Grew up in Nebraska. And the interesting part
was he spent so much of his time now he's
campaigning for president. I thought it was interesting. But the
part that was hit home was the fact that he
kept saying, you know, you don't capture your rain water,
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which we don't hear. People just realize that we absolutely
just runs. And we have had so much rain the
last couple of years, and by the fact that we
don't have any additional ways to capture it, we're just
constantly in a state of self induced drought. Almost.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah for the farmer, for the call, and thank you
for the call.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The data is that fifty percent of the rain that
falls in California just immediately rolls right out into the
Pacific Ocean. And this I mean, you guys who live
in southern California know exactly what I'm talking about. The
rain comes, you suddenly have all like Santa Monica. You
could see the water, just the fresh water just rolling
right out into into the La oceans. California doesn't capture
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the rain like it should. If they did, maybe they'd
be able to actually put out some fires. We'll talk
to Congressman McClintock about this and more next here on
Claybook
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. Buck is caught
in South Florida traffick, but he will join me at
some point during the course of Monday's program. This is
the last full week rejoice of Joe Biden's tenure as
President of the United States. We are officially seven days
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will be raising his right hand to become the next
President of the United States. We will be live with
the show and all of you in Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
D C.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Buck and I are both going to arrive on Friday evening.
We'll be there for the sites, the sounds, the festivities
of inaugural weekend, and then we will be getting hopefully
just an up close look at what day that many
of us have been waiting for for a very very
long time, for that Monday inauguration. That's letting you know
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where we are headed. What's going on this week, Well,
we have the confirmation hearings beginning with Pete Hegseth on Tuesday,
the Battle over Pete Hegseth, Tulci Gabbard, RFK, Junior, Cash Patel,
among others officially underway. It is looking very good at
this point for all of Trump's current nominations to be confirmed.
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But we will see how all those hearings go, and
we will continue to break all of that down for you.
But I would say the biggest story of the weekend
has continued to be and the biggest story of last
week has continued to be the wildfires that have been
raging in Los Angeles that are not yet fully out,
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and the fallout from those wildfires beginning in earnest And
one of the challenges has been determining what is true
and what is false. So I spent a lot of
time over the weekend diving into the particulars of this
story so we'd be prepared to talk about it and
share with you actual true details here because so many
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of you are in California, so many of you have
spent time in the city of Los Angeles. In fact,
I believe the team shared the three states. Probably not
a surprise that we have the biggest audience in Texas, Florida,
and California. Now those are three of the most popular
states in the country. That's not a surprise, but also
three states where we dominate in many different markets, whether
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it's number one in Sacramento, number one in San Diego,
number one in Austin, number one in Houston, just absolutely
gobsmacking growth all over the state of Florida, particularly South
Florida where Buck lives. Right now, we appreciate all of
you listening, but I wanted to make sure that we
got all this right. And then this morning, as I
(02:50):
was doing my prep, I want to give credit because
it was fantastically well done. There's an article from Tom Clintock,
who is we have asked to come on as a guest.
By the way, this morning I asked our team to
reach out to him, a Republican who represents California's fifth
congressional district, and I thought, probably instead of focusing on
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the specific failures right now, I want to rebut the
idea that is the only response that leftists seemed to have,
which is, oh, this is caused by climate change. Oh well,
climate change caused this because one of the challenges associated
with climate change is if you cite climate change, for
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many people, it is just such a reverential belief that
there is no argument that is able to be made
to the contrary. And so I thought McClintock Congressrom McClintock
did a fantastic job kind of giving the history of
LA and I wanted to share a little bit of
what I was reading from him this morning in the
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and I get again. I give credit to the Wall
Street Journal editorial page as well well. And it starts
with the discovery basically of Los Angeles' San Pedro Bay
when Juan Cabrio arrived in the autumn of fifteen forty two.
He named it the Bay of Smokes because there were
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so many wildfires which were common in the Los Angeles area.
And we're talking about wildfires now, but for long before
basically there were any Europeans at all in Los Angeles
or in the California area. I thought this was really fascinating.
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Prior to the year eighteen hundred, based on studies, California
lost an average of around four and a half million
acres to fires every single year.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That is, these.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Fires long before anybody ever conceived of climate change, before
there were very many humans at all that were even
living in this area. Certainly before there was any substantial
population of Europeans that were living in this area. They
had four and a half million acres of fires every year.
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Wildfires were actually a natural consequence of the California landscape,
and then due to human ingenuity and study in the
decades ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
This is again.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
According to Tom McLintock, Congressman, by the end of the
twentieth century, we had driven that all the way down
to losing around two hundred and fifty thousand acres of.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Wildfire burns a year. So, with all of.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Human ingenuity coming into place, we had driven down the
amount of wildfires that were happening from four and a
half million acres a year on average prior to eighteen hundred. Again,
this is a pre industrialized California. We had driven this
all the way down to two hundred and fifty thousand acres. Well,
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that seems like a really impressive amount of work that
we've done. But in twenty twenty California had a four
point three million acre loss of wildfires, and between twenty
nineteen and twenty twenty three, an average of more than
one and a half million acres burned each year. So basically, suddenly,
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after having basically corralled this issue which had existed in
California prior to any sort of major human intervention, we
now have returned to a substantial amount of wildfire that
is taking place.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So what happened? Why? Why?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean this is again story matters and facts matter,
and trying to examine history matter in an intelligent fashion.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So think about this.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
We had basically conquered wildfires in California to a large extent.
You can't prevent them entirely because it is a natural
result of the habitat of California, the winds, the Santa
Ana winds, the foliage, all of these things conspired before
we were here to burn four and a half million acres.
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With great wildlife management, wildfire management, we had driven that down.
And then in the last few years, suddenly we're starting
to return to the natural the natural burn, even still
substantially less on average, but still the natural burn that
had already happened. And people out there are saying, well,
(07:43):
this is climate change. Actually it's not if you look
at the history. And by the way, if you look
at the history of waterfall over the last one hundred
and fifty years or so, as I did because I'm
a nerd in the Los Angeles area, you can't assess
waterfall as a major change here right, It fluctuates pretty
consistently throughout all of this time. In other words, climate
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change is not to blame in fact, and this is
a really Now we're going to pivot into what changed? Okay,
why do we start to have some of these changes?
Environmental studies and the goals of the environmentalists to return
this landscape to more of a natural condition is actually
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now creating the same conditions that we had helped to
cure to limit the amount of fires that are going on. Again,
reading from congressome mclintock's piece here, which is so well done,
we'll share it on claymbuck dot com. I'm gonna tweet
this out from my own account at Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You can go follow it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Environmental studies now costs millions of dollars, and it takes
five point three years for any forest thinning project in
California to get approval. And often again they had been
doing logging, they had been grabbing timber. The amount of
timber harvested from public lands has declined seventy five percent
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since the eighties. Sheep and cattle, which were being allowed
to graze widely because they ate a lot of the foliage,
the underbrush that is creating so many of these fires
have been restricted by bureaucratic laws and fees, and all
of these things have created the overall recipe for these
(09:34):
wildfires to return. And again I'm not getting into I
do think it's a really interesting discussion.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We'll dive into this more.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
The failures of water management, the failures of hey, how
do you not have a huge reservoir that could have
made a huge difference in the palisades. How is that
down when you've got somebody making seven hundred thousand dollars
a year. Those are let's analyze them on a particular basis.
Why were the fire high migrants not running? All of
those things will be examined, but I'm talking about the
(10:04):
larger picture here. What occurred that actually created such a
fertile environment for wildfires like these to occur. The evidence
and data would suggest that it was a rejection of
the management techniques which had been incredibly successful in bringing
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back the amount of acreage that was burned on a
yearly basis. Dialing all of those back, in conjunction with
all of the political failures, created an environment that was
ripe to be exploited in the event that these wildfires
were to catch back on fire and were now creating
a scenario which was very similar through this whole region
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to what existed when Europeans arrived in the Los Angeles
area in the first place. And again we'll talk to
the congressman about this, but what did we do is
we allowed the environmentalists to create scenarios where all of
us lose, and they did so in the name of
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trying to make California better climate adaptable. In other words,
and this is probably not going to shock a lot
of you, but we were actually on the right track.
We were using decades of intelligent forestry management techniques and
then leftists in California, crazy environmentalists, took control of the
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political apparatus, repudiated and rejected many of the policies that
had created a vast reduction in wildfires. And now we
have a situation where we're basically returning the land to
what it was like in a pre intelligent data driven
(12:00):
decision process. And the difference is we since then have
added millions of people into these areas where they've built homes,
and now many of those homes have been destroyed. It's
important to look at not only the specific failures, and
again I think that's important, and we'll talk about some
(12:22):
of those too, because I spent a lot of time
over the weekend looking at them, the specific failures of
why can't California put out the fires once they start,
but also the larger picture of why was this area
so poised to catch fire and create such a problem.
The data would suggest that environmentalist, while claiming that climate
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change is the cause of this, actually caused these situation
themselves by returning the land to a pre rational analysis
that had driven down the overall.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Amount of fires.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Now, you're never going to start stop any all fires,
just like you're never going to stop all tornadoes or
you're not going to stop all hurricanes. Natural disasters are
bound to happen. But what you want to do, if
you can, is limit the overall ability of those fires
to have such a fertile terrain. And it appears the environmentalists,
(13:19):
due to their failure, the ultimate people of California now
in those homes are paying the price on it. So
we'll dive into these. By the way, I'll take some
of your calls. I know a lot of you are
in the LA area. You may have seen this happen.
You may have lived there in the sixties, seventies, and
eighties as rational choices were being made and the amount
of burns were dropping substantially in that area. And now
(13:42):
you're seeing all of this come back, and you're throwing
your hands up and saying, this is the result of
failed public policy. And then we'll get into how bad
is California that they can't put out fricking fires. That's
what a lot of you are asking as you were
sitting watching this over the course of the weekend. How
do we get to a place where California, which is
(14:02):
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is the fifth largest economy in the world, has a
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Let me hit you with this too. I'm still talking
about the California wildfire situation, and I thought this study
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is so important.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All of these people lecturing.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You about greenhouse gas emissions and everything else, they've created
a situation. Listen to this sentence which I read, and
I was pretty staggered. This is from the Wall Street
Journal editorial on the history of wildfires in California. A
UCLA study estimated California's twenty twenty fires alone released twice
(16:45):
as much greenhouse gases into the atmosphere as had been
prevented by the previous eighteen years of primarily government enforced restrictions.
Think about how crazy that is. They are trying environmentalists
to return us to an era when four and a
half million acres burn, and in so doing they are
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releasing generational amounts of greenhouse gases, all in the name
of trying to save the planet. These people's brains are broken,
and I think Buck has said it well before. Climate
change is a religious belief for people who do not
have actual religious belief. They have just so completely given
(17:31):
over their brains to this idea of climate change that
there is no talking with them because the data doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Matter to them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
They are just true believers that the planet is being
destroyed and that they alone can save it. It's really,
I think emblematic this entire story of how their failures
not only are making it tougher for everybody to make
a living, they're also making it worse than if they
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all of you hanging out with us. Buck caught in
traffic in South Florida trying to get to Palm Beach.
(19:07):
He's going to join us here at the top of
the next hour. I believe we are also scheduled to
be joined now. Appreciate everybody moving quickly on this. By
Congressoman M'Clintock, a Republican representing California's fifth congressional district who
I've been talking about, wrote such a fascinating piece about
the issue and history of wildfires in California. So that's
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the history that basically four and a half million acres
would burn every year before humans, certainly Europeans were involved
in California life at all. So this is a long,
forever basically issue that has existed for this climate. But
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I do think, and again I've been fired up about
this all weekend, so I've been reading all about it.
I do think everyone needs to have a real how
is that possible moment that they can't put the fire out.
California by itself is the fifth largest economy in the world,
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the fifth largest economy in the world. Many of you
out there in California are listening to me right now.
You guys are taxed at a level that the vast
majority of Americans are not taxed at. I know because
I've paid a lot of California taxes. I've worked a
lot with Fox Sports right at the intersection of Pico
and Motor in West La. I've spent a ton of
(20:36):
time in La over the last decade. I actually love La.
I think California is a jewel of a place. I
understand why everybody wants to move there. It's spectacular the climate.
I always say, California is the only place I've ever
spent substantial periods of time where it's very common that
when you walk outside of sliding glass doors from indoors
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to outdoors, there's no change in the temperature at all
for huge portions.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
If you've ever spent any time in southern California, you
know what I'm talking about. Like you're inside, you know,
if you're in at Miami, where Buck lives a lot
of the time, you're in a frigid mall and you
walk outside and you get hit by that drenching, searing humidity.
The moment you walk outside of those sliding glass doors,
you're going from one environment to another. California is the
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only place I've ever spent a substantial period of my life.
There are parts of the country where this can be
true for certain months where huge parts of the year
you walk from an indoor mall area, indoor building straight
outside the temperature is the exact same.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It is, in many ways a perfect place to live.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I took my son out there last year and we
were walking around outside.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And He was like, is it always kind of like this? Dad?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I was like, yeah, LA weather's pretty good. It's why
they film movies out there, doesn't rain that often. It's
a beautiful place to live. But left wing politics has
destroyed much of it. And you really felt this during
COVID when they completely lost their minds LA did over restrictions.
(22:12):
They made no sense at all. Orange County, those of
you listening to me right now in Orange County.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Was way saner.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And remember there was no data difference in totally locked
down in saying LA COVID perspectives and Orange County, even
though they overlap, moved south outside of LA, Orange County,
which tends to be more Republican, more rational. They got
through COVID better than LA did.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But think about where we are. They can't put out fires.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
If I told you, hey, what do you think is
the number one job in general of any government authority?
Putting out fires might be number one. What do you
expect the government to do?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I expect if there's a fire, that I can call
nine to one one and that they will come and
they will put it out so that the whole community
doesn't catch on fire.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That's why we have public firemen COVID.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I was tweeting about this. Some of you may have
seen it. People said, well, COVID is more of a failure.
Now Red States tended to get COVID right, but there
were at least arguments about how should we respond now.
People like me and back were right when we said
we can put kids back in school, don't need to
be wearing masks, keep the gyms open, let public parks
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remain open, let kids play sports. All those things we
were right about. But there were at least two different perspectives.
Everybody agrees the number one goal with fires is put
it out, but nobody else is out there like well.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, buy and large.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I know occasionally you'll say, well we need a public
safety fire or you know, managed burning. But I'm talking
about an unscheduled fire in a residential area. Democrat, Republican, Independent, Hey,
there's a house on fire. What should the government do?
The government should put it out. California doesn't have the
ability to put out fires.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
This is staggering.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I would argue again to you, maybe the number one
job that most of us would respect and expect a
government to be able to accomplish is when a fire
starts put it out. Yet they haven't been able to
figure out how to do that for now a week,
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and they've had ample time to try and figure it out,
and in the process, tens of thousands of people have
lost their homes.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
And if you see some of these videos from the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Sky, it's hard to believe how massive these fires became.
Fire hydrants ran out of water. The biggest reservoir near
the Palisades was down, and they couldn't figure out how
to fix it, and so it was completely empty. Do
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you think that might have made a difference in the
early start of the Palisades fire to have had that
huge reservoir filled with water.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It certainly couldn't have hurt.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Why wasn't the government able to respond in a more
rapid fashion to put the fires out to curtail it
before it became so overwhelming. Why was there no plan
in place? Why did LA and California at large have
(25:54):
such ineffective and inefficient government that Karen Bass can barely
read public statements the mayor that Gavin Newsom shows up
and in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, which is
a relatively relaxed setting by and large for Gavin Newsom
to be doing an interview that he crumbles under the
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questions from Gavin Newsom, sorry from Anderson Cooper. Gavin Newsom
doesn't can't explain why the resources weren't there to fight
the fire. The government, by and large, my answer here
focuses on what the people who put the pressure on
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the government want to focus on. And I would submit
to you that California, because of its immense wealth, has
actually totally forgotten what the primary purpose of government is.
And instead of focusing on, hey, let's arrest criminals, let's
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put out fires, let's pick up garbage, let's stop low
level theft things, Let's have effective roads, let's have effective schools,
things that I think most of you out there, regardless
of your politics, would all say, yeah, those are things
that I would like for government to do a good
job of. They've moved on past those issues and they
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instead have decided that government should be a source for equity.
Putting out fires, Oh, that's yesterday's job. We're not even
concerned about that massive amounts of water when necessary to
put out fires, that's for nerds to worry about. We're
focused on equity. We're focusing on redressing decades of awfulness
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in the country, and so as a result, instead of
focusing on the things that government should focus on that
unite us all and that are important to all of us,
as a lot of left wing Democrats are now learning. Instead,
they decided, Hey, we want to make government an agent
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to address DEI. We want to put equity at the forefront.
We're going to make sure that we examine whether there
should be reparations for slavery, even though slavery was never
even legal in California. Putting my history nerd hat on here,
California never had a legal slave in the country in
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the entire history of its statehood. Slavery was never legal.
What in the world are you doing? In fact, if
you want to really be a history nerd, California historically
was actually a land of incredible opportunity for black people
all over the United States who moved to California and
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had more rights in a pre civil rights area than
almost anywhere else. Race relations is actually something that California
got right. But no, we're going to be focusing on
being sanctuary cities instead of putting out fires. And I
think it's a great example of what happens when a
community is so overrun with wealth. Because California, again by itself,
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is the fifth largest economy in the world, and by
and large, many people in California are extremely wealthy that
you stop focusing on the things that matter to everyone
and start addressing a tiny sliver of your population that
decided that they were going to get super active in
state politics, and as a result, you fail across the board.
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I mean, California has three lesbian women named Kirsten or
Kristin or whatever the heck their names are at the
head of the fire department, and they spend a great
deal of time bragging about that, but they can't put
out fires anymore. And I think it's such an important
lesson for America. We can't California this country because if
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we do, and we almost did, because remember Kamala Harris
would have been the ultimate Californication of the country if
we had elevated her to President of the United States.
When you see what Gavin Newsom is doing, when you
see what Karen bass is doing, when you see generational
incompetence that Californians have elevated to leadership, understand what the
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motivation for that is. It's not competence, it's reponance. It's
the idea that they need to focus on apologizing for
America's past imagined sins and not actually focus on making
life better for Californians. And if you say to me, Okay,
you got that totally wrong, I would say people in
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California are voting with their popular According to u HAUL,
the last five years, California has led the nation on
people leaving that state. In general, whether more people are
moving into your state than leaving it is a great
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sign for how leadership is going. Every year up until
twenty twenty, since it became a state in eighteen fifty,
California increased population. Beautiful place, amazing spot to live. Eighteen
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fifty all the way to twenty twenty. That's a long
time where population constantly kept going up. Starting in twenty twenty,
people began to bail. Last five years, U haul number
one state to leave California. I would submit to you
that these wildfires are a perfect metaphor for what California
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has done to destroy what is in many ways America's
Garden of Eden, particularly southern California, which there are communities
out there. I was talking about the environment. I mean,
there's just the temperature. I mean, there's not very many
places in the world. There are a lot of houses
in southern California that don't have heating or air. You
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talk about a garden of Eden, you can build a
house in California. I had a good friend lived in
San Clemente. Her house did not have heating or air,
and I could I was like, what this is. Believe
I couldn't even conceive of it. That's how perfect that
environment is, and that perfection has led to destruction because
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of left wing leadership. I'll take some of your calls,
by the way, maybe a lot of Californians who want
to weigh in Buckton and join me. He's caught in traffic.
It's gonna be with me. Hour number two eight hundred
two A two two eight a two. Some of you
who are longtime Los Angelinos, I guarantee you you're nodding along.
If you live in Orange County, you're nodding along. You're
saying you're nailing it. You are describing the trajectory of
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what life here has become. Things got so good they
didn't even need to care about the things that matter
the most, and that to me is the story of
how California has gotten to the point where they can't
even put out fires. Look, they speaking of the games.
I watch games all weekend. I mentioned the Cowboys and
fire Mike McCarthy. They couldn't even they came even put
a football game on. They had to move the La
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A bunch
of you want to weigh in.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Katie.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Katie in Costa Mesa, California. You were at the Trump
rally where Trump spent You said a ton of the
time saying, hey, we got water and fire issues all
over California that aren't being addressed.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, absolutely, Cray, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
What was the discussion you thought Trump nailed it?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Well, basically, So this was in October of twenty twenty three,
so you know he was out on the you know, campaigning,
and my sister and I and several people went. And
the interesting thing about it was is he spent I'm
not kidding it with a slideshow on the Delta smelt
and the fact that he had and I think the
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conversation was so interesting because we had had so much rain.
I've lived in California twenty four years plus a little
bit more. Grew up in Nebraska. And the interesting part
was he spent so much of his time now he's
campaigning for president. I thought it was interesting. But the
part that was hit home was the fact that he
kept saying, you know, you don't capture your rain water,
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which we don't hear. People just realize that we absolutely
just runs. And we have had so much rain the
last couple of years, and by the fact that we
don't have any additional ways to capture it, we're just
constantly in a state of self induced drought. Almost.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah for the farmer, for the call, and thank you
for the call.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The data is that fifty percent of the rain that
falls in California just immediately rolls right out into the
Pacific Ocean. And this I mean, you guys who live
in southern California know exactly what I'm talking about. The
rain comes, you suddenly have all like Santa Monica. You
could see the water, just the fresh water just rolling
right out into into the La oceans. California doesn't capture
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the rain like it should. If they did, maybe they'd
be able to actually put out some fires. We'll talk
to Congressman McClintock about this and more next here on
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