January 14, 2025 • 36 mins
The politics of personal destruction. Sen. Mullin calls out the Dems for their hypocrisy in the Hegseth hearing. Do you remember Gary Hart and Monkey Business? Our audience does! LA fires and a tale of two cities.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in second hour of play and Buck kicks off
right now. We just had Senator Kane, remember him, He
was gonna be Hillary's vice president? Remember that that didn't
go over so well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Who is going to have a more distinguished career after
Walls who would have been Kamala's VP, Or Tim Kaine,
who would have been Hillary's VP. Like, people just completely
have forgotten about Tim Kane. But at least he had
the Senate seat to go back to. Walls is in
his second term as Minnesota governor. Does he have any
(00:36):
political future at all?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
No, but he can pursue his lifelong dream of Broadway,
and I think that, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Spirit fingers dancing man. Maybe he can be a rocket.
He liked to kick the legs up. Maybe he can
get in the rock ats in the Christmas Spectacular, which
I'm told is told is a fantastic show. I haven't
ever been Tim kay.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I know Tim thinks he's got the legs for it,
So why not, you know what I mean? You could
be up there with the rockets. You never know. Uh,
So we have Tim Kaine, I suppose to Tim Walls,
who I think was a actually ended up being a
pretty serious drag on the Kamala ticket. But Tim Walls,
(01:20):
Tim Kaine. Tim Kaine went after Pete. Hegseth just now.
And this is a reminder that even though I think
there's no chance, I shouldn't say no chance. There's a
very low chance they're gonna be they're gonna block Pete's
nomination because they needed Republican to go along. I think
it's very unlikely, but they like to get their sound bites,
(01:45):
and this is, uh, well, let's hear what it turned
into and how Pete handled this. But Tim Kine getting
a little a little nasty up there on Capitol Hill.
Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You had sex, well, you were married to wife two
after you just had fathered a child by Weissree. You've
admitted that, Now if it had been a sexual assault,
that would be disqualifying to be Secretary Defense, wouldn't it?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It was a false claim? Then in a false claim, now.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
If it had been a sexual assault, that would be
disqualifying to be a Secretary of Defense, wouldn't it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
That was a false claim.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So you're talking about a hypothetical.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I assume that in each of your weddings you've pledged
to be faithful to your wife. You've taken an oath
to do that, haven't you?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Senator?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
As I've acknowledged to everyone in this committee, not a
perfect person, not claiming to.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But no, I just asked a simple question.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You've taken an oath like you would take an oath
to be secregary defense and all of your weddings to
be faithful to your wife.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I have failed in things in my life, and thankfully
I'm redeemed by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And
did you ever engage in any acts of physical violence
against any of your wives?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Senator?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But you would agree with me that if someone had
committed physical violence against the spouse, that would be disqualifying
to serve as Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Correct, Senator, absolutely not? Have I ever done that? Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I mean so, I said to Politics of personal destruction.
This was prior to Tim Kaine, Senator from Virginia, going
in on Pete Hegseath over his past marital issues. And
the question about hitting a wife is so specific, you know, I.
(03:23):
I just it's it's an odd angle to go after
when there has been no suggestion that it's occurred.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's the classic thing though, it's the when did you
stop beating your wife? Question? In essence, I mean, it's
the it's to bring up the notion of somebody being
a wife abuser or physically a wife beater, and and
then just just bring it up so that you've tainted
the person that you're having the conversation with. U. I
would have guessed that Tim Kaine would go this route,
(03:51):
but I suppose he thinks that this is his opportunity
to show that he is just protesting against all things
Trump and from nominees in some ways, you know, the
things that are brought up here. I think it's interesting Democrats,
So now now are Democrats of the mind that marital issues,
(04:12):
marital problems put aside the violence, which was a total
that was a total, you know, kind of backhanded smear effort.
The party of Bill Clinton, I would think, is generally
not going to be the party that is pointing fingers
about how things go during one's marriage. But right now
they got nothing, and so they're going.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
To go out about aside Clinton buck, what about what
we just saw of Kamala Harris's husband. No questions by
and large from the media at all. I mean, her
husband Doug im Hoff in his mid forties was accused
of pretty clearly slapping the crap out of a girlfriend
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outside of a fancy party, and there were witnesses and
all all these different aspects of it. To my knowledge,
Doug Imhoff was never even asked about it in any interview,
and Tim Kaine went out on the road and campaigned
with him Hoff, So what is his standard for what
sort of job you can have based on past behavior?
(05:18):
Not to mention, Doug Imhoff got his nanny pregnant kind
of a big no no, just kind of tossing it
out there. Hey, don't get the nanny pregnant is kind
of a big big deal.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
For most of an employee who lives or at least
partially lives in your home and is dependent on you
for a paycheck and is around your wife and your
family regularly. I mean, look, I don't think that Schwarzenegger
honestly ever really recovered from that whole thing, either in
the public eye, because there's something particularly uh yucky about
(05:57):
his marriage pregnantanny. He got his nanny pregnant, and then
Kamala Harris married him, and he also, according to credible sources,
slapped the crap out of a woman in his mid forties,
and people say, Okay, why are you talking about mid forties.
We're not talking about the first time the guy got
a beer when he was eighteen and did something stupid.
When you're in your mid forties, like you're a grown man,
(06:18):
like you're not slapp And I would say this, you're
not slapping a woman for the first time in your
mid forties. I don't think that happens very often. So
my point on this is Tim Kaine campaigned with Doug
Immahoff in this most recent presidential election, and now he's
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out on the in the Senate deciding that this is
an unacceptable past behavior when he's had no issue with
it in the past. Mark Wayne Mullen now steps in
Republican Mark Wayne Ullen, this is cut thirty two. He
is not having it. When it comes to the way
the Democrats are going after Pete on this one play it.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
The senator from Virginius starts bringing up the fact that
what if you showed.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Up drunk to your job?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
How many Senators have showed up drunk to vote at night?
Have any of you guys asked them to step down
and resign? For their job, and don't tell me you
haven't seen it, because I know you have.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And then how many.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Senators do you know have got a divorce before cheating
on their wives? Did you ask them to step down?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But it's for show, you guys.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Make sure you make a big show and point out
the hypocrisy because the man's made a mistake and you
want to sit there and say that he's not qualified.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Give me a joke.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
It is so ridiculous that you guys hold yourself as
this higher standard and you forget you got a big
plank in your eye.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Congress being though, the arbiter of marital fidelity is that's
a tough one for a lot of people, and a
lot of people are laughing about that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Also alcohol, I mean, are we really going to pretend
that a lot of senators and a lot of congressmen
and women don't engage in drinking a lot while they
are serving in the capitol? I mean buck Back in
(08:12):
the day, and maybe it's changed, it was not uncommon
for congressional offices to roll in kegs and have parties
in the congressional office with alcohol there. Maybe they have
stopped that. I can only speak to it because I
worked on Capitol Hill for multiple years and that was
(08:35):
a standard thing you would invite other offices over. You
would have a couple of kegs. Everybody would have drinks
on a Friday. Maybe they don't allow that anymore, but
I knew that heg Seth was likely to be confirmed.
When they went they stopped the attacks over woman related
issues and instead moved it entirely to oh he drinks
(08:56):
too much, and that in and of itself. I was like, well,
the first attack didn't land. When suddenly you're pivoting and
saying and now they've got alcohol. There are a lot
of senators, remember Ted Kennedy, didn't Ted Kennedy drink like
a fish? I bet there are a bunch of senators
Kennedy let.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
A woman drown that back of his car and created
some fake alibi. Yeah, of course, But I mean and
the lion of the Senate, you know, Ted Kennedy. This
is they the Democrats playing the moral card. Really, like
ever with anyone, is too much for those of us
(09:35):
with with a knowledge of a basic knowledge of recent
history to to bear. I think, and and I think
that the going after Pete on this stuff, you know,
going after Pete on this stuff, I think is also
indicative of the fact that they know that on sort
of skill set background, he's going to do well under questioning.
(09:58):
So they're just trying to get him, you know, hot
under the collar. They're trying to just get him a
little a little fired up and maybe be intemperate or something.
But I still feel strongly that he's he's going to
get through.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I also, again, these hearings, it's all for show. But
Mark Waye Mullen is making a really good point on
the If you're going to say that heg set is
unqualified because of marital issues and alcohol, seventy five percent
of all congressmen and women would have to step down
(10:34):
as well. So what is the standard that they're trying
to bring to bear here as it pertains to what
in your past justifies or doesn't justify your ability to
be a Secretary of Defense or someone else in the cabinet.
And we just elected Trump who's on his third wife,
I believe, so the whole argument of morality doesn't really
(10:58):
seem and you're right out Bill Clinton. But also Bill
Clinton's overall approval ratings went up during the impeachment issues
associated with Monica Lewinsky. So the general public has been voting,
I think pretty consistently for a quarter century now that
they really just care about the competence of the individuals
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and maybe sadly just assume that all politicians morally are
full of it and have moved on from the idea
being oh, politicians are sort of these moral arbiters or
in role models for the general public.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Look, do do we want someone to do the job
or are we picking somebody who is a a you know,
role model for people to try to aspire to be.
Like I think we've moved away. And maybe people don't
like this and disagree with that, but I think that
we've we've very clearly moved away from a world of, uh,
(12:02):
anybody who has a public job is supposed to be
a personal role model. Yeah, there are limits, right, you
don't want somebody who's like a heinous criminal. But I
think that we've seen people decide that this is not
it's just not what it used to be or what.
But I also think that before to the point you
were making, didn't didn't JFK. JFK had an affair with
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an intern who was like h slept with everybody with
a pulse in the White House. I mean, so the
actual president and you know, like a college freshman or
something he was. You know, that's correct. You know, like
go back in time, look at all these guys and
the stuff that they were doing, and the history.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Camelot, you can mispronounce that. It may make more sense
if you actually go and uh and and and look
at history. I'm not kidding when I say for people
out there who will remember this, everything changed with Gary Hart.
I think it was like nineteen eighty four in that
in that Gary Hart catch, suddenly everything that you had
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done in your personal life became a version of what
kind of leader you were going to be. And it
wasn't the case for all of American history until like
nineteen eighty four, and then from nineteen eighty four to
I would argue up through me too, that is a
totally different stand I don't remember this at all. By
the way, Gary Hart, you don't remember this monkey business
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story going. I'm gonna look it up. I bet some
of our audience will remember it. But that to me
was a clear line of demarcation where things changed in
terms of Hey, your private life is fair game because
it was generally.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
A lot of demarcation. How many people even remember this?
I think very few people remember this, this Gary Hart moment, oh,
putting phone lines. Buck has just stepped in it. I
think almost everybody out there listening to us, who is oh, now,
i'll be fair, who who is older than fifty knows
very well this Gary Hart story. Gary Hart, by the way,
(14:06):
I don't know it, but I don't think it was
some sea change moment in America. Oh, I think it was.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
He was the front runner for the eighty eight Democrat nomination,
so not eighty four eighty eight. Then they went into
his background, found out that he was cheating and having
like all that monkey business. He was on a boat
called monkey business. And since that, which is very funny,
since that time, he also basically dared the reporters, hey,
I've never done anything, and they caught him take phone call.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot
of you do remember Gary Hart. My phone is blown
up as I'm checking my mentions, but I did want
to play. By the way, nineteen eighty eight derailed his
presidential campaign the idea that he was having relationships outside
of marriage, that he's having affairs, the first politician to
ever have that happen too, and it's set the table
(16:08):
for much of the Clinton earrow when that became a
big part of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But and he was a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
By the way. For those people who don't remember, here
is Tim Kaine. I talked about his hypocrisy. He went
after Pete hag Seth. Here he is with Doug im
Hoff talking about how Doug Imhoff is an amazing guy
and he was excited to campaign with him. This is
cut thirty four.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
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Speaker 1 (16:36):
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Speaker 3 (16:39):
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taken office, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have stood up
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
So again, you're willing to go out in campaign with
Doug Imhoff, who is legitimately I think a scumbag, and
Kamala is married to him, and then you decide, Hey,
Pete Hegseth, you can't be the Defense secretary if your
standard is going to be that if you are a philanderer,
you don't think that you should be in positions. Ever,
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then I don't understand how you campaign with m Hoff.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, it's almost like Clay. They have double standards. Yeah,
that's all that really matters to them is whatever they
want in the moment and whatever the politics demand. Yeah,
this is where we are. It's not a surprise. I
think that the Hegstith nomination is still it's all looking
on track and Democrats are flailing a bit. So no
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big surprise there.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Not to mention by the way he ran with Hillary
Clinton kind of the scandals of impropriety there, and he
didn't have any problem with that either. I just think
it's a weird line to draw for a guy with
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So the wildfires in Los Angeles continue on.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And they pose an ongoing threat to the communities there.
The damage, the devastation, it is just stunning. It is
a horrific death toll. Last I saw it was at
twenty four although officials think it's going to go higher.
They're looking for bodies in some neighborhoods. There's been some
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progress with some of the blazes, but there's still the
possibility that there could be more spread. To me, Clay,
you know, I remember the first time I really spent
any real time in la back in the early two thousands,
and I drove down the Pacific Coast Highway and I
remember just thinking that Malibu and that area was just
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the most just one of the most incredible parts of
the entire country. It's one of the reasons why it's
among the most expensive real estate in the whole country.
To see just the charred wreckage of those beach houses,
I mean, these are beach houses. These are ten million
dollar homes, a lot of them. So I'm a lot
more And that's just one visual that I have. I mean,
(20:01):
I've been I'm sure you have to have been along
that corridor and seen these houses that are right on
the ocean there, and it's crazy to see what's gone
on there is now. I think no question that the
response has been completely unacceptable, meaning the ability to contain
this it's not anywhere near what it should have been.
(20:26):
The La Times owner doctor Patrick Soon Shong has come
out and said that it was a mistake for his
paper to endorse mayor Karen bass. I want to talk
about this play cut nine.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
We'll accept Tomblain right, so at the La Times we
endorse Karen Bass. I think right now in front, that's
a mistake and we admit that. So I thought it
was very early important early on for me to come out,
and I think we were one of the few to
say competence matters. Goodlie, but maybe twenty twenty three million
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views to show how that was really due to the
heart of most people, whether you right or left. And
it's the interesting thing is that maybe we should think
about how we elect people on the basis of did
they actually run a job, did they actually make a payroll?
Do they understand what it is? And rather than having
professional politicians whose only job is ready to run for office.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
With everything he said, yeah, seems very suddenly, very very
reasonable on this. But I would I would just remind
everyone that when you're talking about a job like a mayor,
through a lot of public leadership jobs, it's not a
big deal until it is. It's not a challenge until
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something comes up right. You can show up as the
mayor of name a major city and on most days
your staff is telling you what to do, and you
know you're signing things. I mean, you know the actual
mechanics of the job. You're not out there in the
bearing straight trying to get you know, trying to stay
on the ship and make sure you're gonna get blown
over by a wave or something like. It's not that
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hard of a job, is my point. In the crisis,
though you see one's ability or lack thereof, it's when
you're tested. And this mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass,
has been tested and found insufficient in her skills. Well,
I think what it really brings home is DEI is
a luxury that doesn't matter at all when it comes
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to actual competence. And to your point that a lot
of these jobs take care of themselves, and so you
can have a figurehead leader who makes people feel good.
Oh look, it's the first gay trans mayor, Hey, yay,
But none of that matters when push comes to shov
and there's actual, real competence required. And I saw I
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don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Julia Roberts, who is a super left winger was at
the Joe Biden La fundraiser where people said Biden was
basically comatose, like unable to do the job. And she said,
now FU to looters out there. Interesting suddenly now looting,
(23:15):
As I saw Matt Walsh tweet, I think it's a
good point Matt Walsh's Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
For a long time we heard looting was the.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Voice of the dispossessed, right, that was how they defend unheard.
I think the voice of the unheard, the voice of
the unheard, that's what looting was. That's what they told
this all as BLM protests took place all over the country.
So are the voices now not worthy of being heard?
It's interesting when you actually deal with it, how your
perspective changed. And I saw this from David Spade, the comedian.
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I believe we have this audio. David Spade said, Hey,
he's putting a bounty out if you catch somebody trying
to set fires, he'll give you five thousand dollars. This
is video. Did you see this? This is David Spade.
Hollywood couldede Julia Roberts is saying fu, big time donor
and fundraiser for Joe Biden, Democrat to looters, And now
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David Spade is saying, hey, if you catch somebody trying
to set fires, I'll give you five k Listen.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Hey, I'm out in California and people are saying, there's
guys lighting fires out there. Make this course. They just
caught somebody. We're pretty sure it was lighting fires walking
on the blowtorch.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They let them go.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
So if you can find someone lighting a fire, and
you catch somebody and you can get the cops to
bust him and throw them in jail, give you five
thousand bucks. So keep your eyes peeled and do what
you can out there. Don't fake it though, no staging.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Let me know, I buck.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
This is a red pilled moment for a lot of
Los Angelinos. I think now David Spade has been I
think a more moderate guy that politician gen x Era
is less likely to be as a crazy left wing
But I do think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, you know, I'll tell you this. In New York
you have had a few things that have always made
it feel like public safety was a little bit more
of a it affects everybody thing than you do in
a place like Los Angeles. What I mean is, if
you take the subway. You take the subway right, it
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doesn't matter where you live, and if the subway is unsafe,
people pay attention. There is certainly a perception and my friends,
my Los Angeles based friends, have spoken me about this
many times in the past, where if you live in Brentwood,
if you live in Beverly Hills, you're living in a
rarefied existence that allows you to separate yourself from the
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realities of more interior Los Angeles. God, I think that's
right wherever the and so you can have these luxury
beliefs and you're just getting into your Mercedes or your
Porsche or whatever, and you're going to friends' houses in
Malibu the boo. You know, you're you're not dealing with
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the degeneracy that maybe is on the streets of Hollywood
Boulevard the same way. This now is a moment where
the crappy leadership of Los Angeles as a city in
Los Angeles County is affecting the people that live in
some cases truly gated communities, but the proverbial gated community, right,
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I mean they always felt safe behind their high walls
and their fancy neighborhoods. Well, maybe they're relatively safe from crime. Still,
they weren't safe from these fires. So it has been
made real for them in a way that I think
is pushing the recognition of politics. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I think that's a really good point for people who
have spent time in New York City and in La La.
You have the ability to have a multi acre estate
with a gated community in West LA to a large extent,
or in the beachside communities, and you can really isolate
yourself from actual danger to a large extent in La.
(26:57):
I was in West LA, have spent probably years of
my life almost now in West LA. I've never felt
remotely endangered in West LA. To your point, Buck, New York,
everybody is right on top of everybody else, and it
feels much more like a place where danger could erupt
in a way that La does not, if that makes sense.
(27:17):
And what now is happening is all of these people,
legitimately from their gated mansions and their exclusive, wealthy enclaves,
are suddenly dealing with a level of crime that they've
never anticipated before. People buy and large. We're not engaging
in violent behavior in Pacific Palisades, ever, And so you
could look back and you could say, oh, well, that's
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not really the part of LA that I'm concerned about.
The rubber doesn't have to meet the road of your
political opinions. And suddenly Julia Roberts, when she was I
bet raising money to bail out people during BLM, is
saying wait, f you to all these looters out there.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And LA is much less a city than a lot
of other cities are, meaning it's actually a collection. Los
Angeles is a collection of different cities, all connected via
you know, highways, really and you can even see that
with things like in Beverly Hills has its own police department,
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you know what I mean. You look at some of
these communities, they have their own police force, they have
their own you know, set up with that's some of
the local you know, local politicians and and sort of
local commissions and people who are in charge of stuff.
So it's a place where I think you're able to
create your own little universe. You know, if you live
in a mansion in Beverly Hills, you don't really care
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what's happening in downtown LA very much, or you know,
you don't have to deal with it. It's quite far
actually to get there. So this though is a moment
where the people who have lived in very fen you
know specific Palisades is considered a very desirable, very high
end area. It's largely gone burned to the ground. I
mean huge parts of it are gone, and people have
(28:59):
to turn around and say, hold on a second, why
weren't the proper preparations made. Why are people bleating like
imbeciles about climate change right now, as if that is
helpful or has anything to do with anything. So this
is maybe a moment that there'll be some people whose
minds changed. I also wonder how many of them will
(29:20):
just decide that this is the last straw, that they'll
decide that they want to sell the land'll probably you know,
clear the land if they've had a home that's burned down,
take whatever the insurance money is and go elsewhere. Some
of them will rebuild, I'm sure, but some of them won't.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think huge percentages of people will leave and take
their insurance money and go honestly to Red States because
they're fed up over this and this to your point
on the climate change yesterday, while you were sitting in traffic,
that was what I really wanted to kind of hammer home,
because that great editorial laying out LA's always had wildfires,
we actually managed, thanks to human ingenuity, to get to
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the point where there were almost no acres being burn
compared to historic norms. And now all we've done is
basically recreate the same scenarios in situations that existed before
human ingenuity had driven down the number of homes that
were going to be destroyed. And because of that human ingenuity,
I bet a lot of these communities are relatively new
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because they probably didn't want to build there historically because
they were dangerous relative to the wildfire and wildlife surrounding them.
There was more danger of those areas being burned.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Did you see the analysis as well that they the
state of California does not allow risk pricing for insurance
for fire insurance, which means that there's no disincentive to
build and to build very extravagantly in these and fire
prone areas. It also means that there's no insurance pool
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to cover these losses. So then California provides an insurance
of last resort, and that insurance also does not have
enough capital to actually cover these losses. So all the
regulations that they have in place have done is made
the whole situation worse and also requires the raising of
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rates for everybody who doesn't actually live in as dangerous
of a place because the insurance company has to get
the capital to be able to cover the risk, even
if you limit how much they can actually take in risk.
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Speaker 2 (32:54):
A lot of you out there want a way in
on me, saying Gary Hart and here his presidential campaign
getting blown up back in the nineteen eighty eight presidential
cycle is what unleashed the fury, so to speak, of
investigating past behavior as evidence for why you shouldn't be president.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I mean, I'm sorry, I was in like kindergarten, so
if my recollection of this is nuts, you know, Clay
was working on his PhD at the time. But I
was a little I was a little I was only
like seven or eight years old.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But I am such a history politics nerd that I've
actually read a book about this, and I don't remember
the name of the book.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
This is now I'm getting in. This is like super
the whole book about this.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, about the way that it altered the trajectory of
American politics, that it had never occurred before. But some
of you went a weigh in, who remember this being covered?
Karen in Franklin, Tennessee, by the way, that's where I live.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I love you already, Karen. What you got for us? Yeah, well,
I'm your neighbor.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
But I remember monkey business.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
It was the beginning of the end for Gary Hart.
There were picks, sure's all over.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Not social media, we didn't have that, but magazines and
things like that.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
But when you said it, I had to.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Try to get in and I'm supporting you.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Thank you, Karen. I love I knew I was gonna like.
Karen lives down in Franklin where I live.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
We do have Dan Vip who writes in, I don't
think the change was Gary Hart so much as it
was Bill Clinton. Gary Hart pulled himself out of the
race when it was showing the allegations were true. It
had happened before. Do you remember Sergeant Schreiber. But when
Clinton was accused and there was evidence the allegations were sound,
he said he was not gonna let it knock him
out of the race. That to me, that's my contention,
(34:41):
I mean. And also I don't remember the Gary Hart
thing very well. To be fair, well, they tried.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yes, Clinton was the natural outgrowth of this. Michael in Atlanta, Michael,
what do you think.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Hey, guys, you actually just started to steal my thunder there. Yes,
it's very significant because if Hart had won and Bill
Clinton wouldn't become president in ninety two because the Democrats
would have been behind Gary Hart. So it definitely changed
the trajectory of history.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Thank you for the call ver fall? Or am I
just being thrown under the bus here by one of
our spellers in Nebraska?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Is it verfall?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Verdell?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Thanks, I didn't think it was like, I didn't think
ver fall.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Yeah, I didn't think just a phone connection.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Verdell sounds way more okay, Sorry, sorry for throwing I
was thrown under the bus by our call screener Nebraska Typo. Yeah,
certainly hold on, let me pause for a second, Verdell Typo.
Let me just say, uh, well, sorry, Verdell continued, Yeah, you.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
Were talking about Jessicahan.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, all of the Gary Hart Kate craziness.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Yeah, I've I still happen to have that issue from
I think it was eighty two yet in my file
the place.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh, you still have the old Playboy magazine? You have
files of old Playboy magazines.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Yeah, you could call that. It's out in the shop.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
How many years of Playboys do you have?
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Oh, back to sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think when did you stop collecting them?
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Oh, well, when they quit publishing.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So you have like forty years of Playboys. They're Burdell
in Nebraska. I knew he was on the ball. Verndell,
forty years of Playboys. He's got my back, Buck,
Welcome in second hour of play and Buck kicks off
right now. We just had Senator Kane, remember him, He
was gonna be Hillary's vice president? Remember that that didn't
go over so well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Who is going to have a more distinguished career after
Walls who would have been Kamala's VP, Or Tim Kaine,
who would have been Hillary's VP. Like, people just completely
have forgotten about Tim Kane. But at least he had
the Senate seat to go back to. Walls is in
his second term as Minnesota governor. Does he have any
(00:36):
political future at all?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
No, but he can pursue his lifelong dream of Broadway,
and I think that, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Spirit fingers dancing man. Maybe he can be a rocket.
He liked to kick the legs up. Maybe he can
get in the rock ats in the Christmas Spectacular, which
I'm told is told is a fantastic show. I haven't
ever been Tim kay.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I know Tim thinks he's got the legs for it,
So why not, you know what I mean? You could
be up there with the rockets. You never know. Uh,
So we have Tim Kaine, I suppose to Tim Walls,
who I think was a actually ended up being a
pretty serious drag on the Kamala ticket. But Tim Walls,
(01:20):
Tim Kaine. Tim Kaine went after Pete. Hegseth just now.
And this is a reminder that even though I think
there's no chance, I shouldn't say no chance. There's a
very low chance they're gonna be they're gonna block Pete's
nomination because they needed Republican to go along. I think
it's very unlikely, but they like to get their sound bites,
(01:45):
and this is, uh, well, let's hear what it turned
into and how Pete handled this. But Tim Kine getting
a little a little nasty up there on Capitol Hill.
Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You had sex, well, you were married to wife two
after you just had fathered a child by Weissree. You've
admitted that, Now if it had been a sexual assault,
that would be disqualifying to be Secretary Defense, wouldn't it?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It was a false claim? Then in a false claim, now.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
If it had been a sexual assault, that would be
disqualifying to be a Secretary of Defense, wouldn't it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
That was a false claim.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So you're talking about a hypothetical.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I assume that in each of your weddings you've pledged
to be faithful to your wife. You've taken an oath
to do that, haven't you?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Senator?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
As I've acknowledged to everyone in this committee, not a
perfect person, not claiming to.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But no, I just asked a simple question.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You've taken an oath like you would take an oath
to be secregary defense and all of your weddings to
be faithful to your wife.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I have failed in things in my life, and thankfully
I'm redeemed by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And
did you ever engage in any acts of physical violence
against any of your wives?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Senator?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But you would agree with me that if someone had
committed physical violence against the spouse, that would be disqualifying
to serve as Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Correct, Senator, absolutely not? Have I ever done that? Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I mean so, I said to Politics of personal destruction.
This was prior to Tim Kaine, Senator from Virginia, going
in on Pete Hegseath over his past marital issues. And
the question about hitting a wife is so specific, you know, I.
(03:23):
I just it's it's an odd angle to go after
when there has been no suggestion that it's occurred.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's the classic thing though, it's the when did you
stop beating your wife? Question? In essence, I mean, it's
the it's to bring up the notion of somebody being
a wife abuser or physically a wife beater, and and
then just just bring it up so that you've tainted
the person that you're having the conversation with. U. I
would have guessed that Tim Kaine would go this route,
(03:51):
but I suppose he thinks that this is his opportunity
to show that he is just protesting against all things
Trump and from nominees in some ways, you know, the
things that are brought up here. I think it's interesting Democrats,
So now now are Democrats of the mind that marital issues,
(04:12):
marital problems put aside the violence, which was a total
that was a total, you know, kind of backhanded smear effort.
The party of Bill Clinton, I would think, is generally
not going to be the party that is pointing fingers
about how things go during one's marriage. But right now
they got nothing, and so they're going.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
To go out about aside Clinton buck, what about what
we just saw of Kamala Harris's husband. No questions by
and large from the media at all. I mean, her
husband Doug im Hoff in his mid forties was accused
of pretty clearly slapping the crap out of a girlfriend
(04:56):
outside of a fancy party, and there were witnesses and
all all these different aspects of it. To my knowledge,
Doug Imhoff was never even asked about it in any interview,
and Tim Kaine went out on the road and campaigned
with him Hoff, So what is his standard for what
sort of job you can have based on past behavior?
(05:18):
Not to mention, Doug Imhoff got his nanny pregnant kind
of a big no no, just kind of tossing it
out there. Hey, don't get the nanny pregnant is kind
of a big big deal.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
For most of an employee who lives or at least
partially lives in your home and is dependent on you
for a paycheck and is around your wife and your
family regularly. I mean, look, I don't think that Schwarzenegger
honestly ever really recovered from that whole thing, either in
the public eye, because there's something particularly uh yucky about
(05:57):
his marriage pregnantanny. He got his nanny pregnant, and then
Kamala Harris married him, and he also, according to credible sources,
slapped the crap out of a woman in his mid forties,
and people say, Okay, why are you talking about mid forties.
We're not talking about the first time the guy got
a beer when he was eighteen and did something stupid.
When you're in your mid forties, like you're a grown man,
(06:18):
like you're not slapp And I would say this, you're
not slapping a woman for the first time in your
mid forties. I don't think that happens very often. So
my point on this is Tim Kaine campaigned with Doug
Immahoff in this most recent presidential election, and now he's
(06:38):
out on the in the Senate deciding that this is
an unacceptable past behavior when he's had no issue with
it in the past. Mark Wayne Mullen now steps in
Republican Mark Wayne Ullen, this is cut thirty two. He
is not having it. When it comes to the way
the Democrats are going after Pete on this one play it.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
The senator from Virginius starts bringing up the fact that
what if you showed.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Up drunk to your job?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
How many Senators have showed up drunk to vote at night?
Have any of you guys asked them to step down
and resign? For their job, and don't tell me you
haven't seen it, because I know you have.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And then how many.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Senators do you know have got a divorce before cheating
on their wives? Did you ask them to step down?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But it's for show, you guys.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Make sure you make a big show and point out
the hypocrisy because the man's made a mistake and you
want to sit there and say that he's not qualified.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Give me a joke.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
It is so ridiculous that you guys hold yourself as
this higher standard and you forget you got a big
plank in your eye.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Congress being though, the arbiter of marital fidelity is that's
a tough one for a lot of people, and a
lot of people are laughing about that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Also alcohol, I mean, are we really going to pretend
that a lot of senators and a lot of congressmen
and women don't engage in drinking a lot while they
are serving in the capitol? I mean buck Back in
(08:12):
the day, and maybe it's changed, it was not uncommon
for congressional offices to roll in kegs and have parties
in the congressional office with alcohol there. Maybe they have
stopped that. I can only speak to it because I
worked on Capitol Hill for multiple years and that was
(08:35):
a standard thing you would invite other offices over. You
would have a couple of kegs. Everybody would have drinks
on a Friday. Maybe they don't allow that anymore, but
I knew that heg Seth was likely to be confirmed.
When they went they stopped the attacks over woman related
issues and instead moved it entirely to oh he drinks
(08:56):
too much, and that in and of itself. I was like, well,
the first attack didn't land. When suddenly you're pivoting and
saying and now they've got alcohol. There are a lot
of senators, remember Ted Kennedy, didn't Ted Kennedy drink like
a fish? I bet there are a bunch of senators
Kennedy let.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
A woman drown that back of his car and created
some fake alibi. Yeah, of course, But I mean and
the lion of the Senate, you know, Ted Kennedy. This
is they the Democrats playing the moral card. Really, like
ever with anyone, is too much for those of us
(09:35):
with with a knowledge of a basic knowledge of recent
history to to bear. I think, and and I think
that the going after Pete on this stuff, you know,
going after Pete on this stuff, I think is also
indicative of the fact that they know that on sort
of skill set background, he's going to do well under questioning.
(09:58):
So they're just trying to get him, you know, hot
under the collar. They're trying to just get him a
little a little fired up and maybe be intemperate or something.
But I still feel strongly that he's he's going to
get through.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I also, again, these hearings, it's all for show. But
Mark Waye Mullen is making a really good point on
the If you're going to say that heg set is
unqualified because of marital issues and alcohol, seventy five percent
of all congressmen and women would have to step down
(10:34):
as well. So what is the standard that they're trying
to bring to bear here as it pertains to what
in your past justifies or doesn't justify your ability to
be a Secretary of Defense or someone else in the cabinet.
And we just elected Trump who's on his third wife,
I believe, so the whole argument of morality doesn't really
(10:58):
seem and you're right out Bill Clinton. But also Bill
Clinton's overall approval ratings went up during the impeachment issues
associated with Monica Lewinsky. So the general public has been voting,
I think pretty consistently for a quarter century now that
they really just care about the competence of the individuals
(11:19):
and maybe sadly just assume that all politicians morally are
full of it and have moved on from the idea
being oh, politicians are sort of these moral arbiters or
in role models for the general public.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Look, do do we want someone to do the job
or are we picking somebody who is a a you know,
role model for people to try to aspire to be.
Like I think we've moved away. And maybe people don't
like this and disagree with that, but I think that
we've we've very clearly moved away from a world of, uh,
(12:02):
anybody who has a public job is supposed to be
a personal role model. Yeah, there are limits, right, you
don't want somebody who's like a heinous criminal. But I
think that we've seen people decide that this is not
it's just not what it used to be or what.
But I also think that before to the point you
were making, didn't didn't JFK. JFK had an affair with
(12:26):
an intern who was like h slept with everybody with
a pulse in the White House. I mean, so the
actual president and you know, like a college freshman or
something he was. You know, that's correct. You know, like
go back in time, look at all these guys and
the stuff that they were doing, and the history.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Camelot, you can mispronounce that. It may make more sense
if you actually go and uh and and and look
at history. I'm not kidding when I say for people
out there who will remember this, everything changed with Gary Hart.
I think it was like nineteen eighty four in that
in that Gary Hart catch, suddenly everything that you had
(13:09):
done in your personal life became a version of what
kind of leader you were going to be. And it
wasn't the case for all of American history until like
nineteen eighty four, and then from nineteen eighty four to
I would argue up through me too, that is a
totally different stand I don't remember this at all. By
the way, Gary Hart, you don't remember this monkey business
(13:31):
story going. I'm gonna look it up. I bet some
of our audience will remember it. But that to me
was a clear line of demarcation where things changed in
terms of Hey, your private life is fair game because
it was generally.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
A lot of demarcation. How many people even remember this?
I think very few people remember this, this Gary Hart moment, oh,
putting phone lines. Buck has just stepped in it. I
think almost everybody out there listening to us, who is oh, now,
i'll be fair, who who is older than fifty knows
very well this Gary Hart story. Gary Hart, by the way,
(14:06):
I don't know it, but I don't think it was
some sea change moment in America. Oh, I think it was.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
He was the front runner for the eighty eight Democrat nomination,
so not eighty four eighty eight. Then they went into
his background, found out that he was cheating and having
like all that monkey business. He was on a boat
called monkey business. And since that, which is very funny,
since that time, he also basically dared the reporters, hey,
I've never done anything, and they caught him take phone call.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot
of you do remember Gary Hart. My phone is blown
up as I'm checking my mentions, but I did want
to play. By the way, nineteen eighty eight derailed his
presidential campaign the idea that he was having relationships outside
of marriage, that he's having affairs, the first politician to
ever have that happen too, and it's set the table
(16:08):
for much of the Clinton earrow when that became a
big part of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But and he was a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
By the way. For those people who don't remember, here
is Tim Kaine. I talked about his hypocrisy. He went
after Pete hag Seth. Here he is with Doug im
Hoff talking about how Doug Imhoff is an amazing guy
and he was excited to campaign with him. This is
cut thirty four.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Listen, we are in Annandale, Virginia, where the Biden Harris
campaign just opened the first coordinating campaign office in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And we are going to one win this election.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
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and we're all going to do this thing together. Since
taken office, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have stood up
for our commonwealth at every turn, building a stronger economy
for everyone, creating millions of new jobs, defending women's reproductive
freedoms and so much more. Virginia, We've got to have
the backs of Joe and Kamala and win this November.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So again, you're willing to go out in campaign with
Doug Imhoff, who is legitimately I think a scumbag, and
Kamala is married to him, and then you decide, Hey,
Pete Hegseth, you can't be the Defense secretary if your
standard is going to be that if you are a philanderer,
you don't think that you should be in positions. Ever,
(17:26):
then I don't understand how you campaign with m Hoff.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, it's almost like Clay. They have double standards. Yeah,
that's all that really matters to them is whatever they
want in the moment and whatever the politics demand. Yeah,
this is where we are. It's not a surprise. I
think that the Hegstith nomination is still it's all looking
on track and Democrats are flailing a bit. So no
(17:50):
big surprise there.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Not to mention by the way he ran with Hillary
Clinton kind of the scandals of impropriety there, and he
didn't have any problem with that either. I just think
it's a weird line to draw for a guy with
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I mean, these are beach houses. These are ten million
dollar homes, a lot of them. So I'm a lot
more And that's just one visual that I have. I mean,
(20:01):
I've been I'm sure you have to have been along
that corridor and seen these houses that are right on
the ocean there, and it's crazy to see what's gone
on there is now. I think no question that the
response has been completely unacceptable, meaning the ability to contain
this it's not anywhere near what it should have been.
(20:26):
The La Times owner doctor Patrick Soon Shong has come
out and said that it was a mistake for his
paper to endorse mayor Karen bass. I want to talk
about this play cut nine.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
We'll accept Tomblain right, so at the La Times we
endorse Karen Bass. I think right now in front, that's
a mistake and we admit that. So I thought it
was very early important early on for me to come out,
and I think we were one of the few to
say competence matters. Goodlie, but maybe twenty twenty three million
(21:00):
views to show how that was really due to the
heart of most people, whether you right or left. And
it's the interesting thing is that maybe we should think
about how we elect people on the basis of did
they actually run a job, did they actually make a payroll?
Do they understand what it is? And rather than having
professional politicians whose only job is ready to run for office.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
With everything he said, yeah, seems very suddenly, very very
reasonable on this. But I would I would just remind
everyone that when you're talking about a job like a mayor,
through a lot of public leadership jobs, it's not a
big deal until it is. It's not a challenge until
(21:46):
something comes up right. You can show up as the
mayor of name a major city and on most days
your staff is telling you what to do, and you
know you're signing things. I mean, you know the actual
mechanics of the job. You're not out there in the
bearing straight trying to get you know, trying to stay
on the ship and make sure you're gonna get blown
over by a wave or something like. It's not that
(22:07):
hard of a job, is my point. In the crisis,
though you see one's ability or lack thereof, it's when
you're tested. And this mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass,
has been tested and found insufficient in her skills. Well,
I think what it really brings home is DEI is
a luxury that doesn't matter at all when it comes
(22:33):
to actual competence. And to your point that a lot
of these jobs take care of themselves, and so you
can have a figurehead leader who makes people feel good.
Oh look, it's the first gay trans mayor, Hey, yay,
But none of that matters when push comes to shov
and there's actual, real competence required. And I saw I
(22:53):
don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Julia Roberts, who is a super left winger was at
the Joe Biden La fundraiser where people said Biden was
basically comatose, like unable to do the job. And she said,
now FU to looters out there. Interesting suddenly now looting,
(23:15):
As I saw Matt Walsh tweet, I think it's a
good point Matt Walsh's Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
For a long time we heard looting was the.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Voice of the dispossessed, right, that was how they defend unheard.
I think the voice of the unheard, the voice of
the unheard, that's what looting was. That's what they told
this all as BLM protests took place all over the country.
So are the voices now not worthy of being heard?
It's interesting when you actually deal with it, how your
perspective changed. And I saw this from David Spade, the comedian.
(23:44):
I believe we have this audio. David Spade said, Hey,
he's putting a bounty out if you catch somebody trying
to set fires, he'll give you five thousand dollars. This
is video. Did you see this? This is David Spade.
Hollywood couldede Julia Roberts is saying fu, big time donor
and fundraiser for Joe Biden, Democrat to looters, And now
(24:08):
David Spade is saying, hey, if you catch somebody trying
to set fires, I'll give you five k Listen.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Hey, I'm out in California and people are saying, there's
guys lighting fires out there. Make this course. They just
caught somebody. We're pretty sure it was lighting fires walking
on the blowtorch.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They let them go.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
So if you can find someone lighting a fire, and
you catch somebody and you can get the cops to
bust him and throw them in jail, give you five
thousand bucks. So keep your eyes peeled and do what
you can out there. Don't fake it though, no staging.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Let me know, I buck.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
This is a red pilled moment for a lot of
Los Angelinos. I think now David Spade has been I
think a more moderate guy that politician gen x Era
is less likely to be as a crazy left wing
But I do think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, you know, I'll tell you this. In New York
you have had a few things that have always made
it feel like public safety was a little bit more
of a it affects everybody thing than you do in
a place like Los Angeles. What I mean is, if
you take the subway. You take the subway right, it
(25:18):
doesn't matter where you live, and if the subway is unsafe,
people pay attention. There is certainly a perception and my friends,
my Los Angeles based friends, have spoken me about this
many times in the past, where if you live in Brentwood,
if you live in Beverly Hills, you're living in a
rarefied existence that allows you to separate yourself from the
(25:39):
realities of more interior Los Angeles. God, I think that's
right wherever the and so you can have these luxury
beliefs and you're just getting into your Mercedes or your
Porsche or whatever, and you're going to friends' houses in
Malibu the boo. You know, you're you're not dealing with
(26:00):
the degeneracy that maybe is on the streets of Hollywood
Boulevard the same way. This now is a moment where
the crappy leadership of Los Angeles as a city in
Los Angeles County is affecting the people that live in
some cases truly gated communities, but the proverbial gated community, right,
(26:20):
I mean they always felt safe behind their high walls
and their fancy neighborhoods. Well, maybe they're relatively safe from crime. Still,
they weren't safe from these fires. So it has been
made real for them in a way that I think
is pushing the recognition of politics. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I think that's a really good point for people who
have spent time in New York City and in La La.
You have the ability to have a multi acre estate
with a gated community in West LA to a large extent,
or in the beachside communities, and you can really isolate
yourself from actual danger to a large extent in La.
(26:57):
I was in West LA, have spent probably years of
my life almost now in West LA. I've never felt
remotely endangered in West LA. To your point, Buck, New York,
everybody is right on top of everybody else, and it
feels much more like a place where danger could erupt
in a way that La does not, if that makes sense.
(27:17):
And what now is happening is all of these people,
legitimately from their gated mansions and their exclusive, wealthy enclaves,
are suddenly dealing with a level of crime that they've
never anticipated before. People buy and large. We're not engaging
in violent behavior in Pacific Palisades, ever, And so you
could look back and you could say, oh, well, that's
(27:39):
not really the part of LA that I'm concerned about.
The rubber doesn't have to meet the road of your
political opinions. And suddenly Julia Roberts, when she was I
bet raising money to bail out people during BLM, is
saying wait, f you to all these looters out there.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And LA is much less a city than a lot
of other cities are, meaning it's actually a collection. Los
Angeles is a collection of different cities, all connected via
you know, highways, really and you can even see that
with things like in Beverly Hills has its own police department,
(28:15):
you know what I mean. You look at some of
these communities, they have their own police force, they have
their own you know, set up with that's some of
the local you know, local politicians and and sort of
local commissions and people who are in charge of stuff.
So it's a place where I think you're able to
create your own little universe. You know, if you live
in a mansion in Beverly Hills, you don't really care
(28:39):
what's happening in downtown LA very much, or you know,
you don't have to deal with it. It's quite far
actually to get there. So this though is a moment
where the people who have lived in very fen you
know specific Palisades is considered a very desirable, very high
end area. It's largely gone burned to the ground. I
mean huge parts of it are gone, and people have
(28:59):
to turn around and say, hold on a second, why
weren't the proper preparations made. Why are people bleating like
imbeciles about climate change right now, as if that is
helpful or has anything to do with anything. So this
is maybe a moment that there'll be some people whose
minds changed. I also wonder how many of them will
(29:20):
just decide that this is the last straw, that they'll
decide that they want to sell the land'll probably you know,
clear the land if they've had a home that's burned down,
take whatever the insurance money is and go elsewhere. Some
of them will rebuild, I'm sure, but some of them won't.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think huge percentages of people will leave and take
their insurance money and go honestly to Red States because
they're fed up over this and this to your point
on the climate change yesterday, while you were sitting in traffic,
that was what I really wanted to kind of hammer home,
because that great editorial laying out LA's always had wildfires,
we actually managed, thanks to human ingenuity, to get to
(29:57):
the point where there were almost no acres being burn
compared to historic norms. And now all we've done is
basically recreate the same scenarios in situations that existed before
human ingenuity had driven down the number of homes that
were going to be destroyed. And because of that human ingenuity,
I bet a lot of these communities are relatively new
(30:19):
because they probably didn't want to build there historically because
they were dangerous relative to the wildfire and wildlife surrounding them.
There was more danger of those areas being burned.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Did you see the analysis as well that they the
state of California does not allow risk pricing for insurance
for fire insurance, which means that there's no disincentive to
build and to build very extravagantly in these and fire
prone areas. It also means that there's no insurance pool
(30:55):
to cover these losses. So then California provides an insurance
of last resort, and that insurance also does not have
enough capital to actually cover these losses. So all the
regulations that they have in place have done is made
the whole situation worse and also requires the raising of
(31:17):
rates for everybody who doesn't actually live in as dangerous
of a place because the insurance company has to get
the capital to be able to cover the risk, even
if you limit how much they can actually take in risk.
So it's a broken system, as much of California systems
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Speaker 2 (32:54):
A lot of you out there want a way in
on me, saying Gary Hart and here his presidential campaign
getting blown up back in the nineteen eighty eight presidential
cycle is what unleashed the fury, so to speak, of
investigating past behavior as evidence for why you shouldn't be president.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I mean, I'm sorry, I was in like kindergarten, so
if my recollection of this is nuts, you know, Clay
was working on his PhD at the time. But I
was a little I was a little I was only
like seven or eight years old.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But I am such a history politics nerd that I've
actually read a book about this, and I don't remember
the name of the book.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
This is now I'm getting in. This is like super
the whole book about this.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, about the way that it altered the trajectory of
American politics, that it had never occurred before. But some
of you went a weigh in, who remember this being covered?
Karen in Franklin, Tennessee, by the way, that's where I live.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I love you already, Karen. What you got for us? Yeah, well,
I'm your neighbor.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
But I remember monkey business.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
It was the beginning of the end for Gary Hart.
There were picks, sure's all over.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Not social media, we didn't have that, but magazines and
things like that.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
But when you said it, I had to.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Try to get in and I'm supporting you.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Thank you, Karen. I love I knew I was gonna like.
Karen lives down in Franklin where I live.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
We do have Dan Vip who writes in, I don't
think the change was Gary Hart so much as it
was Bill Clinton. Gary Hart pulled himself out of the
race when it was showing the allegations were true. It
had happened before. Do you remember Sergeant Schreiber. But when
Clinton was accused and there was evidence the allegations were sound,
he said he was not gonna let it knock him
out of the race. That to me, that's my contention,
(34:41):
I mean. And also I don't remember the Gary Hart
thing very well. To be fair, well, they tried.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yes, Clinton was the natural outgrowth of this. Michael in Atlanta, Michael,
what do you think.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Hey, guys, you actually just started to steal my thunder there. Yes,
it's very significant because if Hart had won and Bill
Clinton wouldn't become president in ninety two because the Democrats
would have been behind Gary Hart. So it definitely changed
the trajectory of history.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Thank you for the call ver fall? Or am I
just being thrown under the bus here by one of
our spellers in Nebraska?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Is it verfall?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Verdell?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Thanks, I didn't think it was like, I didn't think
ver fall.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Yeah, I didn't think just a phone connection.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Verdell sounds way more okay, Sorry, sorry for throwing I
was thrown under the bus by our call screener Nebraska Typo. Yeah,
certainly hold on, let me pause for a second, Verdell Typo.
Let me just say, uh, well, sorry, Verdell continued, Yeah, you.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
Were talking about Jessicahan.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, all of the Gary Hart Kate craziness.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Yeah, I've I still happen to have that issue from
I think it was eighty two yet in my file
the place.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh, you still have the old Playboy magazine? You have
files of old Playboy magazines.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Yeah, you could call that. It's out in the shop.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
How many years of Playboys do you have?
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Oh, back to sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think when did you stop collecting them?
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Oh, well, when they quit publishing.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So you have like forty years of Playboys. They're Burdell
in Nebraska. I knew he was on the ball. Verndell,
forty years of Playboys. He's got my back, Buck,
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