January 18, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show Hamas and
Israel reaching a hostage negotiation deal that would be a
ceasefire that would lead to the release of thirty three hostages.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We will see how this continues to play out.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Credit for a ceasefire emerging to Donald Trump. We will
see how all of this continues, and we'll take your
calls and react to that. We've broken that down in
the first hour talking about the challenges in LA. The
number of people that are finally going to say, Buck,
I'm done in California because they're looking around and they're saying,
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LA can't even put out fires. And I think this
is so important. It's the continuing legacy of COVID, where
a lot of you out there listening to us right now,
Buck is one of them, lived in traditional blue states
and you finally, because of COVID, got fed up and
started living different places to do your job. And you
have found out, Hey, I don't have to be in
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New York or Chicago or LA in order to do
my job on the same level. And here's what I
think this is indicative of, Buck, And I'm curious if
you would buy in because this certainly helps your own
personal decision to move from New York to Florida. As
you see people and where I live in Tennessee, and
I'm a native Tennesseean, but the number of people moving
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in here have made the state redder. Florida got redder,
Texas got redder. The people that are leaving California and
New York and the Chicago area in Illinois are often
the biggest taxpayers in those communities. And when they leave,
they don't just uproot their families and potentially their businesses.
They take all of their tax dollars out. And when
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those tax dollars leave, already inefficient governments that are taking
a lot of money and not providing very much in
result become even more inefficient, become even more in debt
in how because state budgets have to typically be balanced,
and the quality of life, whether it's putting out fires
(02:07):
or picking up garbage or putting criminals in prison, becomes
less of a quality of life. And people who have
the opportunity to leave leave, And here's what I see happening,
And I think this is going to be a big
legacy story over the next decade plus. All of those
places they're moving to. The flywheel becomes virtuous, there's more
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tax dollars, services get better, the overall quality of life
in a place like Texas or Tennessee or Florida skyrockets.
The overall quality of life in those older places gets worse,
and it accelerates in getting worse, which then accelerates the
people who can leave leaving. And I actually think we're
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in a doom spiral in some degree in California, in
the Chicago area, and in New York in particular, because
people who are paying the taxes are like, I'm out
my neighbors. A lot of them are from New York,
Chicago area and California. Now they're coming in. They're buying
big houses, they're putting their kids in schools, They're flowing
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all of their taxpayer dollars here. And where I live
in Tennessee and I know where you live in Florida, Buck,
it actually makes everything better for everybody there and even
gives more incentive for people to leave. And I think
in both directions that gap is going to continue to grow.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yes, and remember there's also the long term implications not
just of the tax base in terms of what people
pay for income tax, but also business investment and long
term business growth. You've seen an enormous amount of companies
and this has been going on for a long time,
but particularly moving to Texas, but now more and more
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are setting up shop or headquarters in Florida and Tennessee.
And I think there are other red or redder states
as well that have been major beneficiaries of this.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I think you can say Nevada and Arizona a lot
of Californians. I mean, I thought that it was funny
when Adam Carolla said he's relocating his families a lifelong
Californian to Nevada. Was it our congressman who called in
when you were caught in traffic on Monday? He's like,
you're moving to a desert in Nevada from the Garden
of Eden. Right, It's not only that people are leaving California.
(04:19):
It's that California has so many gifts, perfect climate, beautiful location,
but it's become so inefficient that people are moving to
actual deserts in Arizona and Nevada rather than live basically
in the Garden of Eden in southern California.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, and we spoke to Ryan Gradusky about this.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Recently, he's got a great podcast on the Clay and
Buck Network about the implications of this continued migration of
Americans from one state to another for the census and
for the apportionment of congressional seats, which is going to
be very favorable for a lot of these very red
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states because people are moving to the And I just
think that you've seen too much of what happens when
you get to a Democrat political monoculture, when you have
a one party state, whether it's New York or California,
and there are other states as well. It is too
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much dysfunction, too much of a tax burden, and people
are are fed up with it. So you know, this
is the system working. I would just say, this is federalism.
This is how it is supposed to be. States get
to do a lot, right, States are left to do
a lot that has not prescribed for the federal government
in the Constitution. And people get to move with their
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feet and with their tax dollars from one state to another.
And this is it's a bit like creating a market
system for Americans. Where do you want to live, where
do you want to go, Where do you want to be?
So I think in a sense, this is part of
the genius of the founding that is working. It just
means that they're going to be winners and losers within
the states, just like there are winners and losers in
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any free market. And this is the market functioning right,
This is the way it is supposed to be. We'll
see if some of these states become a little more
a little more serious about what they're doing. You see
that we're gonna have to go back because you made
quite a prediction, Clay. I didn't want to leave this
on the cutting room floor. It looks like Andrew Cuomo
is going to be the next governor, I'm sorry, the
(06:21):
next mayor of New York City after This may.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Be the longest form prediction. We need to find the
audio of me saying this when he resigned or was it.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Won't be that hard.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The day the day of the resignation, Clay shouted out
that that Andrew Cuomo, because he resigned instead of being
forced out as governor, now is going to make a
political comeback. And that does seem to be underway. And
here's what I think. This is why this ties in
for me, Clay to the red state, blue state phenomenon
(06:52):
that is so apparent with California right now. I think
he's just going to come in and do what was
the most obvious thing of all, which is make do
whatever has to be done to bring crime down in
New York and specifically in New York City. I know
that's NYPD, but the state government can have a lot
of you know, there's a lot of money that goes
into the subway system that state affiliated. I mean, the
(07:14):
state can do a lot. The state can provide, you know,
state troopers if they want to to, you know, help
help as auxiliaries for the NYPD.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
They bring down crime.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And then then Cuomo can start to position himself as
you know, if he becomes mayor as the moderate Democrat alternative,
and that doesn't just end with him being mayor of
New York City, everybody he's gonna be talked about the
politics of personal destruction. I don't think him liking to
give I like to give a smooch. I like to
grab ladies sometimes give him a smooch. I don't think
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that's going to stop him from running for president. I
know this is crazy talk, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
If he wins the New York City mayor's race, and
you can go back, we can find the audio whenever
that was.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It is his political comeback.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's him saying I was true, did unfairly And to
your point, New York City basically just needs a new
Rudy Giuliani to clean up the mess. And if that
were to happen, he would use that as his springing
off point to run for president in twenty twenty eight.
It feels inevitable to me that that's what his plan is.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
He could still lose, but there's polls out there that
show that he would be a prohibited favorite to be
elected New York City mayor. Here's the challenge Buck on
all of this. What you just said is the entire
purpose of federalism that states compete and we use each
individual state as a laboratory. It's a brilliant concept. It's
(08:40):
almost like venture capital back in the day. Right, We're
going to take experiments. Vermont can try something and if
it works, then New York should do it, and then
California should do it. Here's the problem I see. In
order for there to be a course correction, people in
those states have to recognize that voting for Democrats is
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what created the problem that they have enabled themselves. That's
the thing to me about California right now. If you're
looking around and you're listening to us, and we have
a monster audience north to south, and six million people
in California voted for Trump, roughly forty some odd percent
of the state. You guys get it. You're like, my goodness,
(09:25):
I'm born and raised. This is a beautiful state. It
gave us Ronald Reagan. It wasn't very long ago that
Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor. Pete Wilson. You may not
love them, but there used to be a vibrant Republican
Party Richard Nixon that came out of California. So there
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is a long history in your Belinda and in Orange
County with Nixon and with Reagan and all of those histories.
What makes Californians look in the mirror and say, we
can't even put fires out now? Who are voting Democrat?
(10:05):
Forty percent of y'all are listening to me right now,
and you're like, preach, you're preaching to the choir clay.
But in order for things to really change, the sixty
percent of people that showed up and voted for Kamala
Harris and thanked the Lord. As you watch those fires burn,
can you imagine if we had a California Democrat like
Kamala Harris DEEI never really accomplished anything suddenly in charge
(10:29):
of the whole nation, like Karen bass Is in charge
of LA.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We dodged a bullet.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Trump dodged a bullet, think the Lord, or else he
would be dead and the whole country would have been screwed.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
But what is the solution here?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
It requires California Democrats to look in the mirror and say,
we caused this. It's almost like they have to have
But the analogy we made is like alcoholics have to
recognize that they're the alcoholic everybody else can see it.
Drug addicts have to say that their drug addicts in
order to change their behavior. Democrat voters have to look
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in the mirror and be like, we cause this. We
have put in place a government that can't put fires out.
We have to fix this. Are they willing to do so?
Or is their personal branding so connected to the Democrat
Party that they won't make rational changes?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know, It's it's interesting as well, there's a there's.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
A an old kind of political joke or trope about
how the moment you want to cut anything, it's fire
it's always firemen first, right, meaning that, oh, you want
to mess with the city budget, I guess you don't
want anyone to arrive when the firefighters need to be there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And that's how you shut down any talk about government
spending or cuts. You know, this is how big government
kind of emotionally or or psychologically holds people, holds populations
captive firemen like, this is what you get to the
very most baseline things you expect government to be able
to do and what we pay taxes for. Uh, police
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and I think are the two first things that come
to mind, right, because you know, you need to not
have the purge out there. You can't have anarchy in
the streets, people stealing your stuff, hurting you, et cetera.
And you also can't just have people's whole neighborhoods burning down.
You know, these are some of the first things if
you go back to like the early Dutch settlement in
America on you know, the bottom of Manhattan, right, if
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you go back then, what are things that they would
have set up right away, probably like a night watch,
police and fire. You know, fire comes very early on.
So when you can't do that even close to effective enough,
it forces that most important of questions, what would you
say you do here, Los Angeles government? What would you
(12:44):
say you do other than take our money? Other than
make it legal to steal in you know, CVS and
Dwayne Reid?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Do you understand my thought? Are they going to recognize
that they caused the problem, that their addiction to the
Democrat Party has created a situation where they can't put
out fires. That's what has to happen in New York,
but in California, in particular in Illinois they all moved
red compared to twenty twenty. But you actually have to
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start putting people who are competent in charge, and that
means you have to recognize that you created the problem.
I don't know that they have the self realization yet.
Have things gotten bad enough for them to be like, hey,
we totally screwed this up. It's time for change.
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You don't know what's you don't know right, but you
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Speaker 2 (14:43):
On the health front.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
We got some news here today. We're just talking about it.
Don't worry, Clay. To the best of my knowledge, your
beloved Mountain dew.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Will remain untouched, sir uh.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
But because it's not red but red dye number three
has now been banned by the FDA.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's in. I'm trying to find a list of some
things that it's in. It's in some.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Really kind of you know, low end candy. I'm trying
to see what else it's in. A little it's like, yeah,
I mean, there's a whole list of foods that you who.
Strawberry drink you Who. First of all, I've never I
was a look Nestley quick will make you gain weight
really fast. But it is delicious. But at least it's
(15:31):
chocolate milk. Chocolate drink has never been something I could
get excited about. And strawberry chocolate drink from you Who
is not. But that was one that had it. They're
a bunch of them. But this is, I suppose, Clay,
another thing that is occurring, perhaps in advance of the
Trump team coming in because RFK Junior not a fan
of these diyes that have been linked in lab studies
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to being carcinogens.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
This is not gonna surprise anybody. I'm not the most
healthy eater on the planet. I think many of you
can tell by looking at me. But I do think
that one of the challenges we have about objects and
food materials and food and everything else is there's so
much noise. It's hard to know what rational decisions a
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normal person should make in terms of what to eat
what's healthy. Here's what I will say, and I do
think it's always interesting. And I bet some of you
have experienced this, and you may have even experienced it
buck when you were just overseas in Spain.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You go overseas and you eat massive.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Amounts of food, right like I went to Italy and
pasta pasta, pasta galore, and I asked to come back.
Don't weigh anything different? And now part of that is
I think you walk more in Europe, and that's one
reason Europeans are able to eat more. That certainly factors in.
But I talked to one of the Italian cooks and
he said, oh, the European rules about what we can
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use here to cook is actually way healthier than the
United States, even when it's something like pasta. The wheat,
for instance, that's used in Italian pasta is very different
than the wheat that's used in American pasta, and as
a result, Italians are eating a health according to him,
a healthier version of pasta. And if you walk around
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in Italy, most people eat a lot. They're nowhere near
as fat as the average American. Now again, I think
again the walk around factor of Europe. They definitely move
more than Americans, but I don't think they go to
the gym more. It's not like I've been there.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I've been counting calories and watching steps for a few
months now and it has been eye opening. And particularly
people get a lot fewer steps than they think. And
you want to make a real habit walking every day
and not for five minutes, for like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Or more every day is really important. Makes a big difference.
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All right, we got some old school audio. Buck, let's
have some fun with this. This was not long after
we restarted, restarted, after we started as hosts.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
On this show.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
This is producer Greg has tracked this down from August
tenth of twenty twenty one. And by the way, there
was a poll up. I put up the poll. Do
you think Andrew Cuomo will ever run for political office again.
Polls out with Andrew Cuomo at the top of the
New York City mayor's race, which will happen this year,
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and the expectation that Cuomo is going to run for
New York City mayor. Back then, thirty thousand of you voted.
This is August tenth, of twenty twenty one, sixty one
percent of you said Andrew Cuomo will never run for
political office again, So big majority in that poll. Here
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is Buck and I's discussion of that from back on
August tenth, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't even remember exactly what we said.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Listen, I think the only way it makes sense because
your point is a good one. He laid out for
people who didn't hear it, a very detailed defense against
all of the allegations of sexual harassment that have been
put forward against him. And then at the very end,
and he may have handwritten this, he may have added
it at the last minute. He decided that he was
going to resign after he had already made his defense.
(20:23):
Why would he do that to me? The only possibility,
the only possibility is he's trying to set the table.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
To be able to come back.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, so that was the discussion, and now it does
appear even though he resigned and gave up the governor's office.
I think, Buck, we're talking about who's going to be
the face of the Democrat Party. If Andrew Cuomo wins
the New York City mayor's race and does, as you said,
just a reasonably efficient job of putting people in prison
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and making the streets safer and solving some of the
migrant crisis and everything else in the city. He's going
to run for president of the United States in twenty
twenty eight and argue he fixed New York City.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He is a name that people know, and this will
be something that gets me very fired off because I
think that there's not nearly enough opprobrium. I think that
people should remember that Cuomo was absolutely horrifyingly stupid and
tyrannical during COVID. He was wrong on everything. He would
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have the remember the conference the press commerce and be like,
we need more ventilators. We need to get a million ventilators.
Let me let me tell you what I mean by ventilata.
I need a system that will open your lungs with air.
And we would sit there during COVID and just hear
him do this over and over every day. The ventilators
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actually ended up being far more dangerous to people than
they were helpful to people. That's part one, Part two.
He was the guy who came up with Cuomo chips.
I don't know this, Clay. You didn't have to deal
with this madness. They they had these rules. They closed
bars early in New York, and they would have this
rule that you couldn't sit at a bar just to drink.
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You had to also order food. So bars to comply
with this idiotic rule started to have a dollar of
like chips or pretzels or something that they would also
give you to qualify it as food. What does any
of that have to do with stopping the spread of
an aerosolized virus. Absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing. But Cuomo was
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the COVID emperor in New York for a while, you know,
very draconian shutdown, very draconian regulations. He was an absolute menace,
and they got rid of him. Not for that and
not for you know, sending the people back into the
nursing homes with who still had active COVID and no, no,
they got rid of him because they said that he
(22:56):
was kind of handsy with the like female state troops
and staff. Right, yeah, so and then he remember he
did the whole thing and he was like, I am atallion.
Sometimes I like to give a kiss. Sometimes the kiss
is on the face, the.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Cheek, the forehead.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And he did this whole press conference about how he
liked to grab people.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You're gonna appreciate this.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Speaking of COVID failures of Andrew Cuomo, who maybe the
next mayor of New York City, did you I don't
know if you've seen this. LA County Public Health just
made an announcement in the last day. They said, and
I'm quoting, please do not wear cloth or paper masks.
They don't filter out find particles or ash. Talking about
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people in the aftermath of the fire. These are the
same people that said wearing a mask would keep you
from getting COVID. Now they are saying the mask don't
actually filter out find particles or ash. Again, coming back
to LA being run by morons. They spit years in
LA insisting that you have to wear a mask. Even now,
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I think some hospitals in California are requiring you to
wear masks to enter, and now they're saying, Hey, they
don't actually work, so it doesn't make much sense when
you're walking around in a burned out community those masks
don't work.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, and you think they worked for COVID. Of course not.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
All the evidence has been clear for years that it
didn't work. I just think saying that in relation to
the fire is just perfect, like kind of a capstone
on the stupidity of the leadership.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yep, but Cuomo is a name, he's been governor of
New York. I think that he'll find a fair amount
of sympathy for from both the center and the center right,
even for kind of getting meat tooed, but on very
uh me grounds, flimsy stuff, you know. I mean, just
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because someone's a Democrat doesn't mean I'd be like, yeah,
that's right, get him.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean, you know, how dare you touch someone's stomach
as you passed them in all hallway?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You you rapist? Right?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
This is kind of what we were talking about with
the collapse of me too in general yesterday going after
hag Seth. The whole me too era has collapsed. But
we're back to basically what Matt Damon got harangued for,
which is, hey, you know, there's a difference between slapping
somebody on the ass in a bar and raping them.
And we shouldn't treat every single aspect of allegation as
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the same. And remember he got totally ripped and you
pointed out as reclined. I think it was said, even
if some people who are one hundred percent innocent go
down for me too, that's justice, which is crazy tall.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's the price we have to pay to set things
right as a society. Very communist logic, by the way.
You know, you got to you gotta do whatever you
gotta do to get to the glorious revolution. But Cuomo
is out at like a thirty let me see, I'm
looking at the poll here, thirty two percent. I think
he was thirty two rousing everybody else in the hole.
Who was in second place, Scott Stringer, who's the city comptroller,
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ten percent, and then a bunch of other state center
I mean total kind of nor Adams six percent, right,
the current city mayor. That's the one that really shocked everybody.
Eric Adams has done. Look, he just wasn't he just
wasn't up for this. You know, he's just not He's
not a competent enough administrator I don't think he's a
(26:19):
bad guy. We've invited him on the show. He's a Democrat,
but I think he's a well intentioned democrat. But he's
not capable of leading an institute, not capable leading a
machine the size of the New York City bureaucracy. He
got everything wrong with COVID. How do you think Andrew
Cuomo is a lifelong New York City guy?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Would do as mayor? I think that he would be.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
He'd be very donor friendly, very media, you know, media,
real media hound, right, would want to just be around
the media all the time. So you know, he'd probably be.
You know, he's considered a really nasty person. I mean,
his his his reputation in New York politics is that
he's a really mean guy. He's a grudge guy, yes, right,
(27:06):
grudge guy like he will if you don't do what
he wants, he'll remember in years later, you know, he'll
like slash the budget for your town. Exact opposite of
what we talked about with Trump, where Trump like is
the for all the criticism you give him, has like
no keeping of grudges, right, Whereas Cuomo having said that,
don't you think he's probably the best of those options. Yeah,
(27:28):
I mean, I think that he probably is the best
of the possibilities that people are thinking about for New
York right now. But that's more of just a reflection
on what an insane asylum New York City politics has
become instead of of his particular Look, he's a NEPO baby. Okay,
it's because his dad, Mary O. Cuomo was governor that
he became the governor. He's not some big impressive guy,
(27:53):
so you know, remember that. But yeah, he might end
up becoming This is interesting on a number levels because
it ties into the blue red state thing we're talking up,
but also the Democrat you know, the next step, the
sort of the next tranch of Democrat leadership. I think
Cuomo sees there's a huge opening. There's a huge opening
to not only be the mayor of New York, but
(28:13):
to be a mayor of New York who is part
of a more sane Democrat party going forward, which I
think is going to be what they try to position themselves.
A Democrat party that tries to appeal to the working
class again, a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Party that you know, is an anti business.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So aggressively, whether that's true or not, I think that's
how they're going to try to position themselves.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Here's something to think about, you know, you talk about
parallel worlds or alternative universes. If Cuomo doesn't get brought
down by sexual harassment, does he challenge Joe Biden in
the twenty twenty presidential cycle.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I think he was gearing up for that. I mean,
I think that there was a real feeling that he
was the ascendant Democrat from within their Ranksman. I remember
this very well because I was following it closely as
a new y orcer at the time when when he
first came to prominence during COVID and a national There's
a reason he was holding those press conferences, right, he
was trying to become It was really at one point,
(29:11):
Fauci and Cuomo were the two and this was under
the Trump administration, but Fauci and Cuomo were the two
omnipresent voices on COVID that would be on TV all
the time. So I think he loved the attention, just
like little Fauci. Uh And I think that he thought
that this was a way to become a national level
political figure.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And I bet if he were on we should invite
him on I don't know that he'll come on, but
we should invite him on the show, like we invited
Eric Adams on. But I bet I bet he would
say if he were being honest, I think he thinks
the hit came from Biden, Like I think he thinks
the reason that sexual harassment all like emerged. I think
(29:53):
I bet that he thinks that hit was ordered by
the Biden team to try to take him out. Now,
whether that's it's true or not, I don't know, but
it is interesting that he would get taken out as
like the last casualty of me too kind of right,
because who else can you point to and say and
for a very very minor transgression of general purposes? Right,
(30:16):
Like I don't disagree with him that he is Italian
and he probably is handsy, and you know who else
is Joe Biden by the way, But I don't think
it was like It's not.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like he got accused of rape.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I mean, he got accused of inappropriately touching like the
stomach and the hip of somebody as he walked past.
I mean that's crazy town.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I remember thinking I can't believe that this is what's
actually bringing this guy down. He should be drummed out
of office for being horrible on code. We're sending everybody
into the nursing homes. That's the scandal for him during
COVID and making the awful decision that accelerated the death
rates and lying about it, and that's where he should
(30:54):
have gotten lost. He also got like a four or
five million dollar book advance. Oh yeah, that time, which
is a massive book advance. That is a this person
we think is going to run for president book advance
from the publisher side.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Also, just this is big picture.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You can make millions of dollars writing a book, but
you can't do radio and be a politician. How does
that rationalize itself in the modern era in which we're
in that your First Amendment rights are considered restricted if
you run for office and you aren't allowed to write
a book, But your First Amendment rights are not considered
(31:34):
restricted if you want to do radio and run for
political office.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know what's interesting claim. I'm just looking back at
this now.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
And Biden, Biden came for president, Biden called from a
step down, Biden shoved in.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's what I'm saying this. There was an internal hit
for dental hit job.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I think they came after him because they thought he
was going to run against Biden and they decided they
were going to take him out. I really do amazing
that he was their He was the third term governor
at the time when they finally were aised and he
would have won reelection. He would have won reelection in
twenty twenty two, right, that's when he would have been
up again. So again, if I'm Cuomo, and I think
(32:16):
you're seeing it a little bit from his brother Chris,
who now is somewhat saying now that he's left the
CNN in saying asylum like he's kind of refreshed himself,
and I think he's somewhat honest at News Nation. I
think that family believes that the Biden team ordered the
hit on him, and that's one of the motivations for
him coming back. So anyway, that's a story to follow
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(32:40):
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Speaker 3 (33:54):
Welcome back in here to play and Buck We've got
we were talking here about Cuomo Andrew Cuomo and how
he is among those that we see as likely to
be part of the Democrat leadership going forward and going
back to memory Lane, Clay said, right when he resigned,
(34:14):
he's going to run again. Now, technically I don't think
he is. Has he already announced his run. I think
he's not in.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's raising money and basically making the calls that would
occur if someone were going to run.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And I think it's hard for somebody like him, who
I'm sure is could be, could be easily qualified as
an egomaniac to see how well he's doing in polls
before he's even announced. And not think I'm going to
be the mayor of New York City. I do think
he'll probably be a bit, probably be better than Eric
Adams in the job. Not I think Eric Adams is
(34:47):
as a more likable person, but I think that Cuomo
is probably going to be more competent in that role
at three term governor of New York State. But Clay,
we shall see, we shall see something else. So I
just want to throw your way because I'm wondering how
you feel about this. Did you see that tipping is
going down?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
More and more now.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, and I did a backlash, backlash Wall Street Journal
writing about this backlash from everyone getting sick of not
only do they do the flip the thing around when
you get you know coffee now, which you should all
have a drinking crack at coffee. Go to cracket coffee
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for burnt coffee at Starbucks. But Clay, Now, when you
go to a lot of restaurants, they bring this mobile
(35:32):
credit card thing to your seat and watch as you
choose their tip in real time.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, I think that tipping culture has gotten out of control.
And I read about this and the read I think
the Wall Street Journal had a big piece that said
they can track what rates of tipping are, and rates
of tipping have begun to decline. In other words, people
are getting the sense that they're being harassed far too often.
And I always overtip because of what do I think, Hey,
(36:01):
this person may be a listener, or this person may
be like I don't want somebody to be like Klay
Travis stiff me on a tip.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But even I.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
When I pick up food, I'm like, what is the
rate that I should tip somebody for me walking in
and picking up food, like I feel bad going zero
and just lining through it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
But we are way over.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Tipped right now as a nation and it has to
be rectified in some form or fashion.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Takeout food for me, I feel like it depends on
the size of the order, if it's more, if it's
one thing, like if you're getting just like fish and
chips in a little you know, do you really give
a tip on the takeout?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't know. That strikes me as what's the point
of service charges? Then? Well, good point
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show Hamas and
Israel reaching a hostage negotiation deal that would be a
ceasefire that would lead to the release of thirty three hostages.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We will see how this continues to play out.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Credit for a ceasefire emerging to Donald Trump. We will
see how all of this continues, and we'll take your
calls and react to that. We've broken that down in
the first hour talking about the challenges in LA. The
number of people that are finally going to say, Buck,
I'm done in California because they're looking around and they're saying,
(00:41):
LA can't even put out fires. And I think this
is so important. It's the continuing legacy of COVID, where
a lot of you out there listening to us right now,
Buck is one of them, lived in traditional blue states
and you finally, because of COVID, got fed up and
started living different places to do your job. And you
have found out, Hey, I don't have to be in
(01:02):
New York or Chicago or LA in order to do
my job on the same level. And here's what I
think this is indicative of, Buck, And I'm curious if
you would buy in because this certainly helps your own
personal decision to move from New York to Florida. As
you see people and where I live in Tennessee, and
I'm a native Tennesseean, but the number of people moving
(01:24):
in here have made the state redder. Florida got redder,
Texas got redder. The people that are leaving California and
New York and the Chicago area in Illinois are often
the biggest taxpayers in those communities. And when they leave,
they don't just uproot their families and potentially their businesses.
They take all of their tax dollars out. And when
(01:46):
those tax dollars leave, already inefficient governments that are taking
a lot of money and not providing very much in
result become even more inefficient, become even more in debt
in how because state budgets have to typically be balanced,
and the quality of life, whether it's putting out fires
(02:07):
or picking up garbage or putting criminals in prison, becomes
less of a quality of life. And people who have
the opportunity to leave leave, And here's what I see happening,
And I think this is going to be a big
legacy story over the next decade plus. All of those
places they're moving to. The flywheel becomes virtuous, there's more
(02:29):
tax dollars, services get better, the overall quality of life
in a place like Texas or Tennessee or Florida skyrockets.
The overall quality of life in those older places gets worse,
and it accelerates in getting worse, which then accelerates the
people who can leave leaving. And I actually think we're
(02:49):
in a doom spiral in some degree in California, in
the Chicago area, and in New York in particular, because
people who are paying the taxes are like, I'm out
my neighbors. A lot of them are from New York,
Chicago area and California. Now they're coming in. They're buying
big houses, they're putting their kids in schools, They're flowing
(03:10):
all of their taxpayer dollars here. And where I live
in Tennessee and I know where you live in Florida, Buck,
it actually makes everything better for everybody there and even
gives more incentive for people to leave. And I think
in both directions that gap is going to continue to grow.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yes, and remember there's also the long term implications not
just of the tax base in terms of what people
pay for income tax, but also business investment and long
term business growth. You've seen an enormous amount of companies
and this has been going on for a long time,
but particularly moving to Texas, but now more and more
(03:46):
are setting up shop or headquarters in Florida and Tennessee.
And I think there are other red or redder states
as well that have been major beneficiaries of this.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I think you can say Nevada and Arizona a lot
of Californians. I mean, I thought that it was funny
when Adam Carolla said he's relocating his families a lifelong
Californian to Nevada. Was it our congressman who called in
when you were caught in traffic on Monday? He's like,
you're moving to a desert in Nevada from the Garden
of Eden. Right, It's not only that people are leaving California.
(04:19):
It's that California has so many gifts, perfect climate, beautiful location,
but it's become so inefficient that people are moving to
actual deserts in Arizona and Nevada rather than live basically
in the Garden of Eden in southern California.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, and we spoke to Ryan Gradusky about this.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Recently, he's got a great podcast on the Clay and
Buck Network about the implications of this continued migration of
Americans from one state to another for the census and
for the apportionment of congressional seats, which is going to
be very favorable for a lot of these very red
(04:58):
states because people are moving to the And I just
think that you've seen too much of what happens when
you get to a Democrat political monoculture, when you have
a one party state, whether it's New York or California,
and there are other states as well. It is too
(05:18):
much dysfunction, too much of a tax burden, and people
are are fed up with it. So you know, this
is the system working. I would just say, this is federalism.
This is how it is supposed to be. States get
to do a lot, right, States are left to do
a lot that has not prescribed for the federal government
in the Constitution. And people get to move with their
(05:38):
feet and with their tax dollars from one state to another.
And this is it's a bit like creating a market
system for Americans. Where do you want to live, where
do you want to go, Where do you want to be?
So I think in a sense, this is part of
the genius of the founding that is working. It just
means that they're going to be winners and losers within
the states, just like there are winners and losers in
(06:00):
any free market. And this is the market functioning right,
This is the way it is supposed to be. We'll
see if some of these states become a little more
a little more serious about what they're doing. You see
that we're gonna have to go back because you made
quite a prediction, Clay. I didn't want to leave this
on the cutting room floor. It looks like Andrew Cuomo
is going to be the next governor, I'm sorry, the
(06:21):
next mayor of New York City after This may.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Be the longest form prediction. We need to find the
audio of me saying this when he resigned or was it.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Won't be that hard.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The day the day of the resignation, Clay shouted out
that that Andrew Cuomo, because he resigned instead of being
forced out as governor, now is going to make a
political comeback. And that does seem to be underway. And
here's what I think. This is why this ties in
for me, Clay to the red state, blue state phenomenon
(06:52):
that is so apparent with California right now. I think
he's just going to come in and do what was
the most obvious thing of all, which is make do
whatever has to be done to bring crime down in
New York and specifically in New York City. I know
that's NYPD, but the state government can have a lot
of you know, there's a lot of money that goes
into the subway system that state affiliated. I mean, the
(07:14):
state can do a lot. The state can provide, you know,
state troopers if they want to to, you know, help
help as auxiliaries for the NYPD.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
They bring down crime.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And then then Cuomo can start to position himself as
you know, if he becomes mayor as the moderate Democrat alternative,
and that doesn't just end with him being mayor of
New York City, everybody he's gonna be talked about the
politics of personal destruction. I don't think him liking to
give I like to give a smooch. I like to
grab ladies sometimes give him a smooch. I don't think
(07:45):
that's going to stop him from running for president. I
know this is crazy talk, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
If he wins the New York City mayor's race, and
you can go back, we can find the audio whenever
that was.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It is his political comeback.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's him saying I was true, did unfairly And to
your point, New York City basically just needs a new
Rudy Giuliani to clean up the mess. And if that
were to happen, he would use that as his springing
off point to run for president in twenty twenty eight.
It feels inevitable to me that that's what his plan is.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
He could still lose, but there's polls out there that
show that he would be a prohibited favorite to be
elected New York City mayor. Here's the challenge Buck on
all of this. What you just said is the entire
purpose of federalism that states compete and we use each
individual state as a laboratory. It's a brilliant concept. It's
(08:40):
almost like venture capital back in the day. Right, We're
going to take experiments. Vermont can try something and if
it works, then New York should do it, and then
California should do it. Here's the problem I see. In
order for there to be a course correction, people in
those states have to recognize that voting for Democrats is
(09:03):
what created the problem that they have enabled themselves. That's
the thing to me about California right now. If you're
looking around and you're listening to us, and we have
a monster audience north to south, and six million people
in California voted for Trump, roughly forty some odd percent
of the state. You guys get it. You're like, my goodness,
(09:25):
I'm born and raised. This is a beautiful state. It
gave us Ronald Reagan. It wasn't very long ago that
Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor. Pete Wilson. You may not
love them, but there used to be a vibrant Republican
Party Richard Nixon that came out of California. So there
(09:45):
is a long history in your Belinda and in Orange
County with Nixon and with Reagan and all of those histories.
What makes Californians look in the mirror and say, we
can't even put fires out now? Who are voting Democrat?
(10:05):
Forty percent of y'all are listening to me right now,
and you're like, preach, you're preaching to the choir clay.
But in order for things to really change, the sixty
percent of people that showed up and voted for Kamala
Harris and thanked the Lord. As you watch those fires burn,
can you imagine if we had a California Democrat like
Kamala Harris DEEI never really accomplished anything suddenly in charge
(10:29):
of the whole nation, like Karen bass Is in charge
of LA.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We dodged a bullet.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Trump dodged a bullet, think the Lord, or else he
would be dead and the whole country would have been screwed.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
But what is the solution here?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
It requires California Democrats to look in the mirror and say,
we caused this. It's almost like they have to have
But the analogy we made is like alcoholics have to
recognize that they're the alcoholic everybody else can see it.
Drug addicts have to say that their drug addicts in
order to change their behavior. Democrat voters have to look
(11:05):
in the mirror and be like, we cause this. We
have put in place a government that can't put fires out.
We have to fix this. Are they willing to do so?
Or is their personal branding so connected to the Democrat
Party that they won't make rational changes?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know, It's it's interesting as well, there's a there's.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
A an old kind of political joke or trope about
how the moment you want to cut anything, it's fire
it's always firemen first, right, meaning that, oh, you want
to mess with the city budget, I guess you don't
want anyone to arrive when the firefighters need to be there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And that's how you shut down any talk about government
spending or cuts. You know, this is how big government
kind of emotionally or or psychologically holds people, holds populations
captive firemen like, this is what you get to the
very most baseline things you expect government to be able
to do and what we pay taxes for. Uh, police
(11:59):
and I think are the two first things that come
to mind, right, because you know, you need to not
have the purge out there. You can't have anarchy in
the streets, people stealing your stuff, hurting you, et cetera.
And you also can't just have people's whole neighborhoods burning down.
You know, these are some of the first things if
you go back to like the early Dutch settlement in
America on you know, the bottom of Manhattan, right, if
(12:23):
you go back then, what are things that they would
have set up right away, probably like a night watch,
police and fire. You know, fire comes very early on.
So when you can't do that even close to effective enough,
it forces that most important of questions, what would you
say you do here, Los Angeles government? What would you
(12:44):
say you do other than take our money? Other than
make it legal to steal in you know, CVS and
Dwayne Reid?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Do you understand my thought? Are they going to recognize
that they caused the problem, that their addiction to the
Democrat Party has created a situation where they can't put
out fires. That's what has to happen in New York,
but in California, in particular in Illinois they all moved
red compared to twenty twenty. But you actually have to
(13:13):
start putting people who are competent in charge, and that
means you have to recognize that you created the problem.
I don't know that they have the self realization yet.
Have things gotten bad enough for them to be like, hey,
we totally screwed this up. It's time for change.
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Speaker 3 (14:44):
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Don't worry, Clay. To the best of my knowledge, your
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Speaker 2 (14:53):
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Speaker 3 (14:56):
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Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's in. I'm trying to find a list of some
things that it's in. It's in some.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Really kind of you know, low end candy. I'm trying
to see what else it's in. A little it's like, yeah,
I mean, there's a whole list of foods that you who.
Strawberry drink you Who. First of all, I've never I
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another thing that is occurring, perhaps in advance of the
Trump team coming in because RFK Junior not a fan
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Speaker 1 (15:56):
This is not gonna surprise anybody. I'm not the most
healthy eater on the planet. I think many of you
can tell by looking at me. But I do think
that one of the challenges we have about objects and
food materials and food and everything else is there's so
much noise. It's hard to know what rational decisions a
(16:18):
normal person should make in terms of what to eat
what's healthy. Here's what I will say, and I do
think it's always interesting. And I bet some of you
have experienced this, and you may have even experienced it
buck when you were just overseas in Spain.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You go overseas and you eat massive.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Amounts of food, right like I went to Italy and
pasta pasta, pasta galore, and I asked to come back.
Don't weigh anything different? And now part of that is
I think you walk more in Europe, and that's one
reason Europeans are able to eat more. That certainly factors in.
But I talked to one of the Italian cooks and
he said, oh, the European rules about what we can
(17:00):
use here to cook is actually way healthier than the
United States, even when it's something like pasta. The wheat,
for instance, that's used in Italian pasta is very different
than the wheat that's used in American pasta, and as
a result, Italians are eating a health according to him,
a healthier version of pasta. And if you walk around
(17:22):
in Italy, most people eat a lot. They're nowhere near
as fat as the average American. Now again, I think
again the walk around factor of Europe. They definitely move
more than Americans, but I don't think they go to
the gym more. It's not like I've been there.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I've been counting calories and watching steps for a few
months now and it has been eye opening. And particularly
people get a lot fewer steps than they think. And
you want to make a real habit walking every day
and not for five minutes, for like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Or more every day is really important. Makes a big difference.
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All right, we got some old school audio. Buck, let's
have some fun with this. This was not long after
we restarted, restarted, after we started as hosts.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
On this show.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
This is producer Greg has tracked this down from August
tenth of twenty twenty one. And by the way, there
was a poll up. I put up the poll. Do
you think Andrew Cuomo will ever run for political office again.
Polls out with Andrew Cuomo at the top of the
New York City mayor's race, which will happen this year,
(19:31):
and the expectation that Cuomo is going to run for
New York City mayor. Back then, thirty thousand of you voted.
This is August tenth, of twenty twenty one, sixty one
percent of you said Andrew Cuomo will never run for
political office again, So big majority in that poll. Here
(19:51):
is Buck and I's discussion of that from back on
August tenth, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't even remember exactly what we said.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Listen, I think the only way it makes sense because
your point is a good one. He laid out for
people who didn't hear it, a very detailed defense against
all of the allegations of sexual harassment that have been
put forward against him. And then at the very end,
and he may have handwritten this, he may have added
it at the last minute. He decided that he was
going to resign after he had already made his defense.
(20:23):
Why would he do that to me? The only possibility,
the only possibility is he's trying to set the table.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
To be able to come back.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, so that was the discussion, and now it does
appear even though he resigned and gave up the governor's office.
I think, Buck, we're talking about who's going to be
the face of the Democrat Party. If Andrew Cuomo wins
the New York City mayor's race and does, as you said,
just a reasonably efficient job of putting people in prison
(20:55):
and making the streets safer and solving some of the
migrant crisis and everything else in the city. He's going
to run for president of the United States in twenty
twenty eight and argue he fixed New York City.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He is a name that people know, and this will
be something that gets me very fired off because I
think that there's not nearly enough opprobrium. I think that
people should remember that Cuomo was absolutely horrifyingly stupid and
tyrannical during COVID. He was wrong on everything. He would
(21:30):
have the remember the conference the press commerce and be like,
we need more ventilators. We need to get a million ventilators.
Let me let me tell you what I mean by ventilata.
I need a system that will open your lungs with air.
And we would sit there during COVID and just hear
him do this over and over every day. The ventilators
(21:50):
actually ended up being far more dangerous to people than
they were helpful to people. That's part one, Part two.
He was the guy who came up with Cuomo chips.
I don't know this, Clay. You didn't have to deal
with this madness. They they had these rules. They closed
bars early in New York, and they would have this
rule that you couldn't sit at a bar just to drink.
(22:13):
You had to also order food. So bars to comply
with this idiotic rule started to have a dollar of
like chips or pretzels or something that they would also
give you to qualify it as food. What does any
of that have to do with stopping the spread of
an aerosolized virus. Absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing. But Cuomo was
(22:36):
the COVID emperor in New York for a while, you know,
very draconian shutdown, very draconian regulations. He was an absolute menace,
and they got rid of him. Not for that and
not for you know, sending the people back into the
nursing homes with who still had active COVID and no, no,
they got rid of him because they said that he
(22:56):
was kind of handsy with the like female state troops
and staff. Right, yeah, so and then he remember he
did the whole thing and he was like, I am atallion.
Sometimes I like to give a kiss. Sometimes the kiss
is on the face, the.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Cheek, the forehead.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And he did this whole press conference about how he
liked to grab people.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You're gonna appreciate this.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Speaking of COVID failures of Andrew Cuomo, who maybe the
next mayor of New York City, did you I don't
know if you've seen this. LA County Public Health just
made an announcement in the last day. They said, and
I'm quoting, please do not wear cloth or paper masks.
They don't filter out find particles or ash. Talking about
(23:38):
people in the aftermath of the fire. These are the
same people that said wearing a mask would keep you
from getting COVID. Now they are saying the mask don't
actually filter out find particles or ash. Again, coming back
to LA being run by morons. They spit years in
LA insisting that you have to wear a mask. Even now,
(24:01):
I think some hospitals in California are requiring you to
wear masks to enter, and now they're saying, Hey, they
don't actually work, so it doesn't make much sense when
you're walking around in a burned out community those masks
don't work.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, and you think they worked for COVID. Of course not.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
All the evidence has been clear for years that it
didn't work. I just think saying that in relation to
the fire is just perfect, like kind of a capstone
on the stupidity of the leadership.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yep, but Cuomo is a name, he's been governor of
New York. I think that he'll find a fair amount
of sympathy for from both the center and the center right,
even for kind of getting meat tooed, but on very
uh me grounds, flimsy stuff, you know. I mean, just
(24:53):
because someone's a Democrat doesn't mean I'd be like, yeah,
that's right, get him.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean, you know, how dare you touch someone's stomach
as you passed them in all hallway?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You you rapist? Right?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
This is kind of what we were talking about with
the collapse of me too in general yesterday going after
hag Seth. The whole me too era has collapsed. But
we're back to basically what Matt Damon got harangued for,
which is, hey, you know, there's a difference between slapping
somebody on the ass in a bar and raping them.
And we shouldn't treat every single aspect of allegation as
(25:23):
the same. And remember he got totally ripped and you
pointed out as reclined. I think it was said, even
if some people who are one hundred percent innocent go
down for me too, that's justice, which is crazy tall.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's the price we have to pay to set things
right as a society. Very communist logic, by the way.
You know, you got to you gotta do whatever you
gotta do to get to the glorious revolution. But Cuomo
is out at like a thirty let me see, I'm
looking at the poll here, thirty two percent. I think
he was thirty two rousing everybody else in the hole.
Who was in second place, Scott Stringer, who's the city comptroller,
(25:58):
ten percent, and then a bunch of other state center
I mean total kind of nor Adams six percent, right,
the current city mayor. That's the one that really shocked everybody.
Eric Adams has done. Look, he just wasn't he just
wasn't up for this. You know, he's just not He's
not a competent enough administrator I don't think he's a
(26:19):
bad guy. We've invited him on the show. He's a Democrat,
but I think he's a well intentioned democrat. But he's
not capable of leading an institute, not capable leading a
machine the size of the New York City bureaucracy. He
got everything wrong with COVID. How do you think Andrew
Cuomo is a lifelong New York City guy?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Would do as mayor? I think that he would be.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
He'd be very donor friendly, very media, you know, media,
real media hound, right, would want to just be around
the media all the time. So you know, he'd probably be.
You know, he's considered a really nasty person. I mean,
his his his reputation in New York politics is that
he's a really mean guy. He's a grudge guy, yes, right,
(27:06):
grudge guy like he will if you don't do what
he wants, he'll remember in years later, you know, he'll
like slash the budget for your town. Exact opposite of
what we talked about with Trump, where Trump like is
the for all the criticism you give him, has like
no keeping of grudges, right, Whereas Cuomo having said that,
don't you think he's probably the best of those options. Yeah,
(27:28):
I mean, I think that he probably is the best
of the possibilities that people are thinking about for New
York right now. But that's more of just a reflection
on what an insane asylum New York City politics has
become instead of of his particular Look, he's a NEPO baby. Okay,
it's because his dad, Mary O. Cuomo was governor that
he became the governor. He's not some big impressive guy,
(27:53):
so you know, remember that. But yeah, he might end
up becoming This is interesting on a number levels because
it ties into the blue red state thing we're talking up,
but also the Democrat you know, the next step, the
sort of the next tranch of Democrat leadership. I think
Cuomo sees there's a huge opening. There's a huge opening
to not only be the mayor of New York, but
(28:13):
to be a mayor of New York who is part
of a more sane Democrat party going forward, which I
think is going to be what they try to position themselves.
A Democrat party that tries to appeal to the working
class again, a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Party that you know, is an anti business.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So aggressively, whether that's true or not, I think that's
how they're going to try to position themselves.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Here's something to think about, you know, you talk about
parallel worlds or alternative universes. If Cuomo doesn't get brought
down by sexual harassment, does he challenge Joe Biden in
the twenty twenty presidential cycle.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I think he was gearing up for that. I mean,
I think that there was a real feeling that he
was the ascendant Democrat from within their Ranksman. I remember
this very well because I was following it closely as
a new y orcer at the time when when he
first came to prominence during COVID and a national There's
a reason he was holding those press conferences, right, he
was trying to become It was really at one point,
(29:11):
Fauci and Cuomo were the two and this was under
the Trump administration, but Fauci and Cuomo were the two
omnipresent voices on COVID that would be on TV all
the time. So I think he loved the attention, just
like little Fauci. Uh And I think that he thought
that this was a way to become a national level
political figure.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And I bet if he were on we should invite
him on I don't know that he'll come on, but
we should invite him on the show, like we invited
Eric Adams on. But I bet I bet he would
say if he were being honest, I think he thinks
the hit came from Biden, Like I think he thinks
the reason that sexual harassment all like emerged. I think
(29:53):
I bet that he thinks that hit was ordered by
the Biden team to try to take him out. Now,
whether that's it's true or not, I don't know, but
it is interesting that he would get taken out as
like the last casualty of me too kind of right,
because who else can you point to and say and
for a very very minor transgression of general purposes? Right,
(30:16):
Like I don't disagree with him that he is Italian
and he probably is handsy, and you know who else
is Joe Biden by the way, But I don't think
it was like It's not.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like he got accused of rape.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I mean, he got accused of inappropriately touching like the
stomach and the hip of somebody as he walked past.
I mean that's crazy town.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I remember thinking I can't believe that this is what's
actually bringing this guy down. He should be drummed out
of office for being horrible on code. We're sending everybody
into the nursing homes. That's the scandal for him during
COVID and making the awful decision that accelerated the death
rates and lying about it, and that's where he should
(30:54):
have gotten lost. He also got like a four or
five million dollar book advance. Oh yeah, that time, which
is a massive book advance. That is a this person
we think is going to run for president book advance
from the publisher side.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Also, just this is big picture.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You can make millions of dollars writing a book, but
you can't do radio and be a politician. How does
that rationalize itself in the modern era in which we're
in that your First Amendment rights are considered restricted if
you run for office and you aren't allowed to write
a book, But your First Amendment rights are not considered
(31:34):
restricted if you want to do radio and run for
political office.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know what's interesting claim. I'm just looking back at
this now.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
And Biden, Biden came for president, Biden called from a
step down, Biden shoved in.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's what I'm saying this. There was an internal hit
for dental hit job.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I think they came after him because they thought he
was going to run against Biden and they decided they
were going to take him out. I really do amazing
that he was their He was the third term governor
at the time when they finally were aised and he
would have won reelection. He would have won reelection in
twenty twenty two, right, that's when he would have been
up again. So again, if I'm Cuomo, and I think
(32:16):
you're seeing it a little bit from his brother Chris,
who now is somewhat saying now that he's left the
CNN in saying asylum like he's kind of refreshed himself,
and I think he's somewhat honest at News Nation. I
think that family believes that the Biden team ordered the
hit on him, and that's one of the motivations for
him coming back. So anyway, that's a story to follow
this year because New York City, along with Virginia for
(32:40):
the governor, in New Jersey for the governor new York
City mayors, I would say one of the three primary
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Speaker 3 (33:54):
Welcome back in here to play and Buck We've got
we were talking here about Cuomo Andrew Cuomo and how
he is among those that we see as likely to
be part of the Democrat leadership going forward and going
back to memory Lane, Clay said, right when he resigned,
(34:14):
he's going to run again. Now, technically I don't think
he is. Has he already announced his run. I think
he's not in.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's raising money and basically making the calls that would
occur if someone were going to run.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And I think it's hard for somebody like him, who
I'm sure is could be, could be easily qualified as
an egomaniac to see how well he's doing in polls
before he's even announced. And not think I'm going to
be the mayor of New York City. I do think
he'll probably be a bit, probably be better than Eric
Adams in the job. Not I think Eric Adams is
(34:47):
as a more likable person, but I think that Cuomo
is probably going to be more competent in that role
at three term governor of New York State. But Clay,
we shall see, we shall see something else. So I
just want to throw your way because I'm wondering how
you feel about this. Did you see that tipping is
going down?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
More and more now.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, and I did a backlash, backlash Wall Street Journal
writing about this backlash from everyone getting sick of not
only do they do the flip the thing around when
you get you know coffee now, which you should all
have a drinking crack at coffee. Go to cracket coffee
dot com, save yourself some money. Don't pay eight dollars
for burnt coffee at Starbucks. But Clay, Now, when you
go to a lot of restaurants, they bring this mobile
(35:32):
credit card thing to your seat and watch as you
choose their tip in real time.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, I think that tipping culture has gotten out of control.
And I read about this and the read I think
the Wall Street Journal had a big piece that said
they can track what rates of tipping are, and rates
of tipping have begun to decline. In other words, people
are getting the sense that they're being harassed far too often.
And I always overtip because of what do I think, Hey,
(36:01):
this person may be a listener, or this person may
be like I don't want somebody to be like Klay
Travis stiff me on a tip.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But even I.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
When I pick up food, I'm like, what is the
rate that I should tip somebody for me walking in
and picking up food, like I feel bad going zero
and just lining through it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
But we are way over.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Tipped right now as a nation and it has to
be rectified in some form or fashion.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Takeout food for me, I feel like it depends on
the size of the order, if it's more, if it's
one thing, like if you're getting just like fish and
chips in a little you know, do you really give
a tip on the takeout?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't know. That strikes me as what's the point
of service charges? Then? Well, good point
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