January 20, 2025 • 36 mins
In this episode, Tudor celebrates Inauguration Day with country music singer Kyle Jennings. They discuss Jennings' journey from hockey to music, the unique culture of Michigan, and the importance of perseverance in pursuing one's passion. The conversation also touches on Carrie Underwood's performance at the inauguration, cultural shifts towards faith and traditional values, and the impact of DEI on perceptions of qualification in the workplace. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. On this Monday Inauguration day.
It is finally here. We've been waiting for this for
I mean gosh, I think it's been four years.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now that we've been waiting for this.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So we're very excited, so excited to see Donald Trump
and what he's going to do in his first hundred days.
I just I absolutely cannot wait to see where this
presidency goes on day one.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We are on day one, and to celebrate day one,
we have Kyle Jennings with us. He is a country
music singer and songwriter small town stories. He has an
affinity for the American way of life, which is why
we thought this was a great day to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And Kyle, I hear that you have Michigan roots.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh yeah, I'm from Kalamazoo, originally born and raised, grew
up in the hockey world, went often played some competitive
hockey before essentially landing back in Michigan and then getting
introduced to music, which I fell in love with. Kind
of answered my passion from hockey into music and started
making trips to Nashville, and the more I got invested,
(01:07):
the more passionate I was, and so I made the
move and.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Really dug in.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So you love the American way of life you are.
You seem like a really positive guy. Historically, we've always
heard that country music songs are about like these hard
times in life, but I mean, really kind of American life.
So did what drew you to that? I mean, it's
just not the typical path for a Michigander.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
But what drew you to it?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I believe me. I hear plenty of country music shinger
from Michigan. You know, my upbringing. I grew up in
a blue collar home.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
My dad was a builder and a teacher, and my
mother was a homemaker and a nurse for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
They both very hard working.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We were raised My sister, my brother, and I all
raised with very blue collar American self reliant, accountable, you
know roots, And so it's it's kind of I think
part of the part of it's where you grow up. Right,
If you're from the city, you probably gravitate to living
for the city, And I grew up in the country
(02:12):
with you know, blue collar Christian raising, and that's what
I love and I believe in that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I mean, there's been a lot of music that has
come out of Michigan, whether it is anything from Motown
to country kid rock. You've got Ted Nugent, You've got everybody,
and now you've joined the list of some serious grades.
So I always say, Michigan can really do anything. We're
a very unique state. People don't give it us enough credit.
(02:40):
So thank you for adding to a little bit to
our flavor here in the state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah. I tell people all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
When I was got an opportunity to relocate back to Michigan,
which was always my game plan, people would say, you know,
because Nashville is growing, it's bustling. Everybody wants to be
in Nashville, why are you going to Michigan?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And I would have you ever been?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, And you say, in Michigan, folks go right to Detroit,
you know, and they they go right to Detroit, like
two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
They don't go to Detroit.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
In Motown, when Motown, when the when the automobile Empire
was was swinging, and when Motown was big. You know,
I talk about all the state parks, all the trails,
and the you know, the topography. You've got hills, you've
got valleys, river streams, Lakes. You've got the you know,
I say, I've got the beach.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
A yeah, people go with the beach. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Have you heard of the Great Lakes? Large bodies of
water fresh water? So it's uh, you know, you mentioned
people it's underrated.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I kind of like it like that, I know, that's what.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So it's funny because when I was running for governor,
people were like, you please stop saying you're going to
bring people to Michigan because people here are very protective
of what Michigan is.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So you bring up the beaches.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And we had a guy in Holland, Michigan for some
event one time, and he was like, this is such
a cute town. I don't really get the lighthouses thing,
and that seems a little bit off for Michigan and
I So if you went a mile down the.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Street, you would be at the beach.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And people, unless they've seen the Great Lakes, they have
no idea how incredible the Great Lakes actually are.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, the entire.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Coast of Michigan is filled with these quaint, little harbor
towns that are vibrant and bustling in the summertime. I mean,
I've been playing a little harbor town in South Haven
for years. You know, folks are at the end of
their wits by the time winter is done. And by
the time you get that first sixty five seventy degree day,
(04:44):
South Haven is alive. And the you know, the energy
is so great because you only get three to four
good months to spend your weekends in South Haven or
these little harbor town so it's just an awesome three
or four months. It's not redundant.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
You know. You go down to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Fort Lauderdale or you go down to you know, the
Florida areas where it's always warm, and people just kind
of going, well, this is what you get.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, right, Well, I actually we were just talking about
how cold it is in DC today and how cold
it is for the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I have to tell you that for Michigan people,
I think.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They're going to be fine because the other day I
came into my neighborhood after work and there were kids.
There's always kids out in the neighborhood. And I think
that's another interesting thing about Michigan. No matter what time
of year it is, there are always people out, running, walking,
riding their bikes. These kids were on scooters. But the
most bizarre part about Michigan. There was snow on either
(05:37):
side of the road. The grass is completely covered. Everybody's
yard is covered in snow. They were in shorts with
sweatshirts and no jackets. I'm like, that's that is Michigan exactly.
I fight every day to get my kids to wear coats.
I'm like, why will you not wear a coat?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, it's when I first moved to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The first year that I moved was would have been
O two and we got a pretty we got a
pretty bad snowstorm. And the guy I was living with
at the time was from Kansas, and so he was
familiar with the plain state drifts and driving in the snow.
And we spent the whole day driving people to their
apartments from the main road.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Because they just think if you.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Push the pedal down harder, it's supposed to go faster,
and it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
They're just you know, it's a different way of life.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Right if you've never if you've never lived snow, then
it is really different. My sister, she is down in
Florida now, and she was like, there's kids in my
daughter's class who've never seen snow in their life. And
if you've never seen it and you try to drive
in it. It is definitely a different experience. So I'm
sure everyone in DC right now is trying to figure
out cold, especially those people who have not come from
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places like Michigan. But I want to get into your
whole career. I know that you played hockey. I mean
for people here, obviously, that's kind of a staple. I
think everybody who a lot of people who have girls
are played. I'm almost every family I know that has boys,
their boys play hockey.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Hockey's a staple.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But then this this transition into singing, and how how
did you do that? And how did you you have
your own label? You've become very successful, You've been out
there on Fox News. I mean, people love what you're doing.
So how did you do that? Inspire us a little?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Here?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well, I think really it was just stubbornness. I was
not willing to give up. I started making trips to Nashville.
I was in way over my head. I knew a
guy in town, so you know, I played the competitive
hockey thing. That was all I ever wanted to do.
I got my head bounced around a few times to
the point where I remember I think it was a
third or fourth concussion of the season, you know, and
(07:42):
this would have been ninety seven or eight. We didn't
really know as much as we know now. So I
remember my dad looking at me and saying, how long
are you going to do this? You know, because I
love to play. I love the physical side of the sport.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Physics were not on my side.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know, you go into a corner with the guy
that's six two six three two twenty when you're five
eight one seventy one seventy five. Math is not on
your side. So, you know, I found I was living
in my in my grandfather's house. I found a guitar
owner his bed.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I started.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I knew a guy in town that knew how to
play the guitar, so I had him teach me some
chords where to put my fingers. That's really what was
kind of the genesis of getting started and then just
being on, oh.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Wait, how old were you when that when you found
this guitar?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Twenty two?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
My word, that's really I mean, that is inspiring because
I think a lot of people feel like once you've
graduated from high school that you're kind of set in
your ways and music is not a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's it's you know, music is a it's such a
vast and deep and wide ocean. It can be a
little overwhelming, but you know, just like anything else, you
stay at it and it becomes a little easier, and
you never master it. I don't think it's anything you
ever master. I've had a number of friends say they
wanted to start to play the guitar and they don't
(09:06):
stick with it very long. The fingers hurt. I'm like, well,
that gets better. It's gonna you know, you're gonna figure
that out. But yeah, it's it's a it's a Music
is magic.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Truly, and maybe that's the joy of it because if
you don't master it, there's no destination.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It's the journey, and the journey just continues.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Well, the journey is something else. You know.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Music has taken me places I never would have maybe
gone on my own, couldn't afford to go to. I've
gotten to play the Pentagon I never would have played.
Obviously played you know there. We used to go down
to a club and play down on Devaul Street in
Key West, like once every three months.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
They were hiring us to come down.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Not a hard duty to get a band to say, hey,
we're going to go down do you do you guys
want to go down to the Keys for a week
and play country music. Not difficult to persuade guys for that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So how did you?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean you said you were just persistent, But there
has to be some tricks that got you there. And
what do you think resonates the most with people? You
are independent, you have a strong faith. How do you
bring people to the table? Is it because that is
that inspiration is there and there's just a blessing in
the journey.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, I think anything that people pursue that that's difficult.
You have a passion that drives you. And then you know,
you moving to Nashville. Everybody always said you got to
move to Nashville and you don't really understand what that
means until you get there. But that's where everyone goes
to live that life. It's eat, sleep, breathing and live
in it, you know, and you build a constituency, a
(10:42):
network of people that do the same thing you do.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
You build friendships and a lot of times those friendships
pick you up when you're in a bad place. You
know you'll have somebody call you. You have somebody reach
out and you know, it's just like life. You got
people in your life for a reason. They help keep.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You motivated when there's times you don't want to be
motivated and you just kind of forge through, and those
are the times that really make you who you are.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
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We'll be back right after this. So you said you've
sung at the Pentagon. Now we know that Carrie Underwood
(12:25):
is singing today. She is singing America the Beautiful at
the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
She's received tremendous backlash.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
For this, and I think a lot of people have said,
you know, how is it that you can sing at
such an important moment in the country's history.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
No matter who the president is.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is a moment that does go down in history,
and it will whatever this term brings, there will be
a definition to certain things that happen in America from
now on. Because Donald Trump will be inaugurated today.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So when you see her being attacked over this, what's
your reaction to that?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, you expect that you've seen it for you know,
the last however many years that the left, especially just
you know, just tries to destroy anybody that dissents from
whatever their ideology is. You know, kudos to Kiri. She's
a she's such a class act. She's got strong conviction
in her faith. She's a stratospherical talent. But kudos to
(13:26):
her for having the courage because you know, as you mentioned,
she's already received backlash that's going to continue. But you know,
I think she's helped helping to forge new paths too
for other artists. It's just like the dance floor. You know,
nobody wants to get on the dance floor, and you
get one person on the dance floor. You know, you
have obviously, you have the very shy tet nugent, and
you have the guys like Kid Rock and and other
(13:48):
artists that are willing to put their neck out there.
But then in the wake of that, you get guys
like Jason Aldine that kind of emerge. You know, obviously
Toby Keith, you know it wasn't afraid to be that guy.
But then you get you bring a whole new class
of conservative. I think with Carrie Underwood, she's just a
classy I mean, that's kind of what really personifies her brand.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
So I think it's a great thing for her. I
think it's a great thing for conservatism.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I think it's a great thing for the Trump you know,
presidency obviously, to align themselves with that brand.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know, it's interesting that you say that, because being
bold in this time is challenging, and I think we
saw a lot of that in the past year. But
people have been cautiously bold when it comes to conservatism
because there has been such a vicious attack and we
saw even the weaponization of government. We saw the weaponization
of social media, even against parents who were getting kicked
(14:43):
out of their accounts, and it's been a challenge. It's
interesting because when you see Beyonce and Taylor Swift and
all these people come out without any fear of saying, hey,
I support Kamala Harris, and nothing seems to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, yes, last night I was reading that Carrie
Underwood has had a million people on follow her and
they won't listen to her music and they're out there
talking about it. And you know, maybe that happened when
Taylor Swift came out, but I don't remember that happening.
I don't remember conservatives saying, if you're not on our side.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We want nothing to do with you. And I and.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think, I mean, I have seen occasionally conservatives that
are like, go out and cancel. Obviously, there was the
Target situation. I think that was different. It wasn't like
we're never shopping at Target again. We want you to
know that we don't like you to to thumb your
nose at our values, but certainly not that we don't
want you at all around ever again. And Carrie, I
(15:45):
think she had a good response to this. She said,
I love our country and am honored to have been
asked to sing at the inauguration and to be a
small part of this historic event. I'm humbled to answer
the call at a time when we must all come
together in the spirit of uni and looking to the future.
Do you think that's what we're going to start seeing
from now on as people saying, you know what, maybe
(16:06):
we should come together.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I think we've already seen it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I think we're already seeing that paradigm shift in, you know,
kind of the cultural climate. You know, you're seeing like
Joe Scarborough you saw and his co host made the
trip to mar A Lago, which they of course they
received immense backlash four. But you're just seeing the general
tone of the response of Donald Trump and how people
(16:31):
are handling their response of you know, his presidency and
his public engagement seems to be completely different. So it'll
be interesting to see as his presidency unfolds how that's weighed.
Obviously the view hasn't really changed course very much, but
who really expected that? But I think you're already seeing it.
(16:54):
And look, I think over the course of the eight
years from his presidency through the four years of Biden,
you've watched the media really try to just destroy this guy.
And I think even I think even the constituents who
aligned maybe with the liberal political ideology, maybe a percentage
(17:14):
that has stepped back and gone. Man, it sure seems
like this whole witch hunt thing, maybe there's something to it.
And that's as that's kind of unraveled through his reelection,
it seems like they're starting to kind of read the
tea leaves.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So I mean, even when you what shows are resonating,
you've got people watching things like Yellowstone and land Man,
and then that there was that clip about the I
think it was the windmills that went viral from land
Man where he's talking about, you know, you have no
idea what you're talking about. You can't get away from
oil and just the lack of knowledge of what these
(17:53):
resources actually do. But the fact that now that's being
called out, even from Hollywood. And then a couple of
weeks I had someone from Hollywood say, you know what,
it's interesting because Hollywood right now is reaching out to
people and saying you got anything faith based, because faith
films are really selling right now. And we had someone
on the podcast who kind of studies culture, and they
(18:14):
said that this latest generation, generation Alpha is really and
even I guess gen Z and Alpha are really kind
of heading back toward faith and pulling out Bibles and
young people are seeking God. But then that generation that
is in high school going into college right now, those
(18:35):
kids are actually seeking out like traditional Latin masses and
really seeking that higher power, which I find interesting that
that seems.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
To have kind of happened on its own.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I've watched it with my own daughter, the algorithm on
social media.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Parents are all afraid of social media, but she has.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Been looking at faith, faith based sayings and faith based
clothing and things like that, and she kind of continues
to get bombarded with those messages, Hey, kids like this,
We're going.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
To keep pushing it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
They've seemed to be led back to that in unusual
ways through social media, where we thought social media was
really bad, but now people are seeking God.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, who knew the.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Holy Spirit was on social media's appreecy. At the end
of the day, I think just what we just talked about,
with some of the consistent rhetoric from the media, they
were hammering, hammering, trying to sell a manufactured narrative, and
what I think a lot of people have realized that
(19:40):
there had not been digesting and being.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Delivered the truth.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And so regardless of what side of the aisle, I
think we've got to get back to a society of
seeking to find the truth.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
What is the truth?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And you know that's where that's where the truth road
leads to is at the of Jesus, at Christianity, And
so I think that's a great sign for society. If
our younger generations, I think maybe on the back of
getting delivered this manufactured narrative of trying to manipulate information
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from the media, they're trying to manipulate a certain way.
I think the general masters are realizing we're not getting
the truth from media, I'm going to have to seek
something else. And that's pushed people into a search for
something much more important and much greater than just Yellowstone
or land Man. So it's I think that's very positive thing,
especially for the younger generations.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But it's interesting that as it pushes people towards that,
Hollywood is scrambling to try to provide what they're looking for,
which is fascinating to me because.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Right, but also interesting how God.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Works in this moment, because the people that probably need
to study God the most are the ones who now
will be doing that by bringing people to stories of faith,
because if you create a story of faith, you have
to be pretty heavily involved in how did you get there?
And I mean people who have even remembered the story
of Unbroken. When Angelina and Jolie worked on that film,
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you saw kind of a transformation of how she saw
his faith and she talked about I was really amazed
by how his faith had gotten him through that situation
where he came back from World War two and was broken,
but obviously unbroken because of his relationship with God.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Hollywood. So Reuters put out this article.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It says Hollywood embraces God and that cowboy curious to
broaden their audience. So I find that fascinating too, because
we've gone through years now the story of toxic masculinity,
and we don't want these powerful men who are the
leaders of their family who will take care of women.
And I've thought, what a disaster for men and women
(22:00):
both because I have seen women and we've and I'm
sure you've seen this too, women who have had doors
open for them and they're horrified. Don't you, dare, Don't
you open my car door? Don't you treat me like
I can't do things for myself. But that really is
a sign of respect. There was a respect between men
and women, and I think that cowboy culture kind of
brings that back one hundred.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I mean we're we're a unique culture in that aspect
is that we celebrate and we truly do, like at
our forefront, we protect women. And the feminist movement has
taken women back in that regard for all of the
wrong reasons, for just a just kind of emotional you know, narratives,
not not any reality to it.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
So yeah, it's a great thing to see. I you know, I.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Dare say I don't digest a lot of TV, so
I don't. I've never seen Yellowstone, I've never seen land Man.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
That shocks a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But you know, at the at the root of it,
what you're talking about, the chivalry, the old fashioned traditional
values of.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Man leading in his home is a It does not
take away from what women offer to the household. You know.
I use the analogy one time.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I was having a discussion with somebody about this and
I said, you know, I can drive a nail with
a pipe wrench, and women can do this a lot
of the same things men can do. That's not what
they're designed for. And men aren't designed to do certain things.
We can certainly help to raise and nurture children, but
that's not my primary that's not what I was designed
to do. So, you know, having both of those aspects
(23:39):
in a mutual relationship, working together, that's how we're designed.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
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With more.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Well.
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And I think there's been this confusion where it's like,
if a woman is able to do those things, then
she should have this dominant role. And regardless of what
you can do physically, or whether or not you're better
at fixing a hole in the wall or getting the
hinge on the door just correct, there is still a
relationship between men and women. That a partnership that people
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are afraid to acknowledge today that there are times when
as a woman, I just want to fall into my
husband's arms and let him, you know, put it, you know,
feel that embrace. And my husband doesn't need that's it's
a different relationship. He needs to be the person that's
protecting me. He doesn't need to be the person who's protected.
Those are natural, that's a natural feeling, and it's a
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good place to be to have that relationship.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It's not weakening a woman.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And I think when you brought up the feminist movement,
that was not how it started. You know, when you
had Ruth Bader Ginsburg fighting for women's rights, it was
so that women could walk into a courtroom. I mean
what I saw with Pambondy this past week and her
facing these people in these hearings. I watched that and
I said to myself, there's so few times today that
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I see a woman who walks into a room and
is so powerful. It was such grace that isn't that
doesn't feel like she has something to prove, that just
exudes confidence and ability.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I looked at that.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I watched that and I thought to myself, I want
my four girls to sit down and watch how Pambondi
handled this, because she is a role model for what
feminism truly is. She goes in there and she's powerful,
but she's graceful, and she's beautiful, and she she just
came off with such power and dignity without coming off
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as she didn't need anybody else. E you know, there
was something about that power in that room that was
very sensitive and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Beautiful at the same time as being powerful.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
This is just goes into the conversation I have oftentimes
when there's the political discourse begins. I don't know, I
don't know anybody I can that I think of that
I know, or I have conversations like this where they
truly think like conservative and a conservative framework go, but
women aren't qualified or a woman of color or whatever
aren't qualified. Most of people that I know, they say,
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whoever is the most qualified, regardless of what their sex, gender, heritage, background, ethnicity,
whatever that is, which.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Is what I think of when I think of condellez
a race.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You look at somebody that's incredibly well spoken, very intelligent, articulate,
deep in the knowledge of her expertise. Nobody looks at
that and goes, well, that's great that she's got those qualifications,
but these things, you know, detract from her ability to
execute well.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think that's actually why people have been so upset
about Dei, because DEI created this space where people went,
wait a minute, are you qualified or did you just
get this position because of what you look like? And
from my perspective, as a woman who came out of
the steel industry and honestly walked into plenty of rooms
where men went, I don't know how I feel about
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you being here and had to prove myself. I don't
want people, whether it is a woman or a person
of color or whoever it is, to ever walk into
a room and have the people in that room automatically
think in their head did you get hired because you
had to fill a quota.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And I think that that was I don't think that
that was foreseen.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I don't think that's what people intended when they created DEI.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
That is what was created.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And that's why I'm so happy to see all of
these companies say, man, this was a mistake. It actually
didn't help. It hurt people more than we could have foreseen.
And I think women and people of color are going
to it's going to be probably five to ten years
before we can get past that image in people's minds
when we walk in a room that we are just
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the DEI hire. I mean, I've had people say it
about me on Twitter. I know other people of color
who have had them that's said about them on x
and on all these platforms, and it immediately takes any
credibility out of your sales and you go, gosh, no,
that's not why I was chosen to do this. And
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I think that it's amazing to see how that was
turned around. And people like Pam and people like Condaliza
are going out there and still speaking and out there
public and people look at them and go wow. Actually,
especially with Pam Bondy, Donald Trump chose her because she
is on fire.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
This woman is incredible. There's no DEI hear this was
the right person for the job.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
That's not how you felt when when Joe Biden was
in office and the well he was choosing, they were
not the right person for the job. They were they
were I guess what it would be central casting for
the leftists.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But right now I think we see people who really
are qualified.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Well, the other thing DEI does it robs someone from
from the value of the of the role. You know,
instead of accomplishing this role and being hired because of
your qualifications, now you've been basically gifted the role because
we're going to panter. Do you we feel sorry for
you or we we're trying to we're trying to fill
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a slot here, you know, for our lineup, and you
just happen to fit some some racial profiles that we'd
like to fill and install in our portfolio or employment portfolio.
And it just it robs women from the acknowledgment of
in roles like you're just talking about, from from looking
at Pambondi and saying, wow, she was appointed because she
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must be highly intellectual, well qualified, articulate, powerful human being,
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But it has it has been great to see.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I mean, obviously there's some outliers, but folks on both
sides of the aisle who have come out and said,
she's an accomplished woman, she is the right person for
this job. We are impressed with what she's been able
to do as the attorney attorney general Florida, and to
come into the US government and take on.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That role would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And to your point, I think that too oftentimes, now
that this DEI has occurred, and now.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
That people have this this.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Concern in their minds when they look at you, there
is nothing worse than having someone look at you with
pity because they don't know if you should be where
you are. And I mean, I think everybody who is
considered a DEI higher these days has had that experience where.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's like, are you really there? Are you really the
person that's right for this?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And I'm glad that Donald Trump has pushed back on
that and proven that people, no matter what they look like,
there are people that can do any role and be
successful at it.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Oh yeah, I mean that's the whole I think that's
the whole point about the free trade capitalist system is
it allows the person who has acquired the most qualifications
and is the best person for the job to have
the opportunity to succeed. And it allows under that system
allows anybody regardless of your background.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I mean JD. Vance is a tremendous story.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know, to look at his background when he's accomplished,
where he's come from, and then where he is now.
You know, the manner in which he carries himself I
think is so valuable going back to the younger generation.
Here's a guy who was a champion of conservatism but
is a pretty pretty good disconnect from what Donald Trump is.
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I mean, he compliments him very well, classy, well spoken,
very patient.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
And.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well calculated in what he does when he engages with people.
I mean, the one thing I noticed about the debates
UH with JD. Vance Dance specifically, was that when he
lays out his point, it seems like the other side
is willing to receive that and and kind of concede
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and go, you know what, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
And it's not like this.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You know, somebody may lay out a point because they're
so hyper partisan on the right, and you just you
inflame and then it just goes back and forth. Reagan
was great at this Reagan was great at making you smile,
bringing you in with humor, and then laying out the punchline,
which was usually very pro conservative, but it even made
you know, you look at Mondale on those debates and
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when Reagan made that classic quip about I will not
exploit my you know, my my uh.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Experience.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, and even Mandy they pandam mania, even Mondale's laughing.
You know, I think there's an element of that in JD.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Vance, which is just awesome.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, I think that what I've seen.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I even in the past week when with these hearings,
you've seen some folks who have tried to up the
rhetoric and get some jabs in, maybe get a viral moment.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
They haven't really received what.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
They think I think they wanted. I think it's been
the people that Trump has brought in. They're serious, they're focused,
they're professional.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think JD.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Vance what you were saying, Yes, he was very professional
what he came out as a true leader in those debates.
And so I'm excited about what we're going to see today.
I'm excited about the next hundred days, but I certainly
am excited about the next four years. But you have
a lot coming up too, So before I let you go,
I want you to tell us what's going on in
the next few months. What's happening. You've got some concerts,
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tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, Well, summer's going to be busy. I'm going to
be doing a little bit of traveling. I'm going to
be all over the place. People can check out dates
all Jennings music dot com. We for the last few years,
we've been recording four songs in the spring and rolling
those out kind of throughout the summer, just to stay
active and keep delivering new music. And you know, that's
kind of the plan for me, is new music in
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the spring, travel and shows through the summer. And I'm
excited for the firste hundred days too. I'm excited for today.
It's just seems it feels like a completely different climate.
So it'll be interesting to see, you know, how he's
able to bipartisanly accomplish things that maybe otherwise in the
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first term or he wasn't able to do.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yep, I agree. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And I think that God had a plan the way
he spread this out and separated.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And he's always on time, you know, So it's like
if it's meant to be, you know, you can't stop it,
and if it wasn't meant to be, you can't force it.
It's just fun to sit back and watch things unfold
and know that he's always on time.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Absolutely, Kyle Jennings, thank you so much for being on
today and sharing with us.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Thanks so much for having me. It's been great to
be here.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Absolutely, and thank you all for listening to the Tutor
Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
For this episode and others.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Go to Tutordison podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts and join us the
next time.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. On this Monday Inauguration day.
It is finally here. We've been waiting for this for
I mean gosh, I think it's been four years.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now that we've been waiting for this.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So we're very excited, so excited to see Donald Trump
and what he's going to do in his first hundred days.
I just I absolutely cannot wait to see where this
presidency goes on day one.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We are on day one, and to celebrate day one,
we have Kyle Jennings with us. He is a country
music singer and songwriter small town stories. He has an
affinity for the American way of life, which is why
we thought this was a great day to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And Kyle, I hear that you have Michigan roots.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh yeah, I'm from Kalamazoo, originally born and raised, grew
up in the hockey world, went often played some competitive
hockey before essentially landing back in Michigan and then getting
introduced to music, which I fell in love with. Kind
of answered my passion from hockey into music and started
making trips to Nashville, and the more I got invested,
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the more passionate I was, and so I made the
move and.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Really dug in.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So you love the American way of life you are.
You seem like a really positive guy. Historically, we've always
heard that country music songs are about like these hard
times in life, but I mean, really kind of American life.
So did what drew you to that? I mean, it's
just not the typical path for a Michigander.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
But what drew you to it?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I believe me. I hear plenty of country music shinger
from Michigan. You know, my upbringing. I grew up in
a blue collar home.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
My dad was a builder and a teacher, and my
mother was a homemaker and a nurse for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
They both very hard working.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We were raised My sister, my brother, and I all
raised with very blue collar American self reliant, accountable, you
know roots, And so it's it's kind of I think
part of the part of it's where you grow up. Right,
If you're from the city, you probably gravitate to living
for the city, And I grew up in the country
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with you know, blue collar Christian raising, and that's what
I love and I believe in that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I mean, there's been a lot of music that has
come out of Michigan, whether it is anything from Motown
to country kid rock. You've got Ted Nugent, You've got everybody,
and now you've joined the list of some serious grades.
So I always say, Michigan can really do anything. We're
a very unique state. People don't give it us enough credit.
(02:40):
So thank you for adding to a little bit to
our flavor here in the state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah. I tell people all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
When I was got an opportunity to relocate back to Michigan,
which was always my game plan, people would say, you know,
because Nashville is growing, it's bustling. Everybody wants to be
in Nashville, why are you going to Michigan?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And I would have you ever been?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, And you say, in Michigan, folks go right to Detroit,
you know, and they they go right to Detroit, like
two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
They don't go to Detroit.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
In Motown, when Motown, when the when the automobile Empire
was was swinging, and when Motown was big. You know,
I talk about all the state parks, all the trails,
and the you know, the topography. You've got hills, you've
got valleys, river streams, Lakes. You've got the you know,
I say, I've got the beach.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
A yeah, people go with the beach. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Have you heard of the Great Lakes? Large bodies of
water fresh water? So it's uh, you know, you mentioned
people it's underrated.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I kind of like it like that, I know, that's what.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So it's funny because when I was running for governor,
people were like, you please stop saying you're going to
bring people to Michigan because people here are very protective
of what Michigan is.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So you bring up the beaches.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And we had a guy in Holland, Michigan for some
event one time, and he was like, this is such
a cute town. I don't really get the lighthouses thing,
and that seems a little bit off for Michigan and
I So if you went a mile down the.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Street, you would be at the beach.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And people, unless they've seen the Great Lakes, they have
no idea how incredible the Great Lakes actually are.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, the entire.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Coast of Michigan is filled with these quaint, little harbor
towns that are vibrant and bustling in the summertime. I mean,
I've been playing a little harbor town in South Haven
for years. You know, folks are at the end of
their wits by the time winter is done. And by
the time you get that first sixty five seventy degree day,
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South Haven is alive. And the you know, the energy
is so great because you only get three to four
good months to spend your weekends in South Haven or
these little harbor town so it's just an awesome three
or four months. It's not redundant.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
You know. You go down to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Fort Lauderdale or you go down to you know, the
Florida areas where it's always warm, and people just kind
of going, well, this is what you get.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, right, Well, I actually we were just talking about
how cold it is in DC today and how cold
it is for the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I have to tell you that for Michigan people,
I think.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They're going to be fine because the other day I
came into my neighborhood after work and there were kids.
There's always kids out in the neighborhood. And I think
that's another interesting thing about Michigan. No matter what time
of year it is, there are always people out, running, walking,
riding their bikes. These kids were on scooters. But the
most bizarre part about Michigan. There was snow on either
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side of the road. The grass is completely covered. Everybody's
yard is covered in snow. They were in shorts with
sweatshirts and no jackets. I'm like, that's that is Michigan exactly.
I fight every day to get my kids to wear coats.
I'm like, why will you not wear a coat?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, it's when I first moved to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The first year that I moved was would have been
O two and we got a pretty we got a
pretty bad snowstorm. And the guy I was living with
at the time was from Kansas, and so he was
familiar with the plain state drifts and driving in the snow.
And we spent the whole day driving people to their
apartments from the main road.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Because they just think if you.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Push the pedal down harder, it's supposed to go faster,
and it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
They're just you know, it's a different way of life.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Right if you've never if you've never lived snow, then
it is really different. My sister, she is down in
Florida now, and she was like, there's kids in my
daughter's class who've never seen snow in their life. And
if you've never seen it and you try to drive
in it. It is definitely a different experience. So I'm
sure everyone in DC right now is trying to figure
out cold, especially those people who have not come from
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places like Michigan. But I want to get into your
whole career. I know that you played hockey. I mean
for people here, obviously, that's kind of a staple. I
think everybody who a lot of people who have girls
are played. I'm almost every family I know that has boys,
their boys play hockey.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Hockey's a staple.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But then this this transition into singing, and how how
did you do that? And how did you you have
your own label? You've become very successful, You've been out
there on Fox News. I mean, people love what you're doing.
So how did you do that? Inspire us a little?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Here?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well, I think really it was just stubbornness. I was
not willing to give up. I started making trips to Nashville.
I was in way over my head. I knew a
guy in town, so you know, I played the competitive
hockey thing. That was all I ever wanted to do.
I got my head bounced around a few times to
the point where I remember I think it was a
third or fourth concussion of the season, you know, and
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this would have been ninety seven or eight. We didn't
really know as much as we know now. So I
remember my dad looking at me and saying, how long
are you going to do this? You know, because I
love to play. I love the physical side of the sport.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Physics were not on my side.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know, you go into a corner with the guy
that's six two six three two twenty when you're five
eight one seventy one seventy five. Math is not on
your side. So, you know, I found I was living
in my in my grandfather's house. I found a guitar
owner his bed.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I started.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I knew a guy in town that knew how to
play the guitar, so I had him teach me some
chords where to put my fingers. That's really what was
kind of the genesis of getting started and then just
being on, oh.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Wait, how old were you when that when you found
this guitar?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Twenty two?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
My word, that's really I mean, that is inspiring because
I think a lot of people feel like once you've
graduated from high school that you're kind of set in
your ways and music is not a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's it's you know, music is a it's such a
vast and deep and wide ocean. It can be a
little overwhelming, but you know, just like anything else, you
stay at it and it becomes a little easier, and
you never master it. I don't think it's anything you
ever master. I've had a number of friends say they
wanted to start to play the guitar and they don't
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stick with it very long. The fingers hurt. I'm like, well,
that gets better. It's gonna you know, you're gonna figure
that out. But yeah, it's it's a it's a Music
is magic.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Truly, and maybe that's the joy of it because if
you don't master it, there's no destination.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It's the journey, and the journey just continues.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Well, the journey is something else. You know.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Music has taken me places I never would have maybe
gone on my own, couldn't afford to go to. I've
gotten to play the Pentagon I never would have played.
Obviously played you know there. We used to go down
to a club and play down on Devaul Street in
Key West, like once every three months.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
They were hiring us to come down.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Not a hard duty to get a band to say, hey,
we're going to go down do you do you guys
want to go down to the Keys for a week
and play country music. Not difficult to persuade guys for that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So how did you?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean you said you were just persistent, But there
has to be some tricks that got you there. And
what do you think resonates the most with people? You
are independent, you have a strong faith. How do you
bring people to the table? Is it because that is
that inspiration is there and there's just a blessing in
the journey.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, I think anything that people pursue that that's difficult.
You have a passion that drives you. And then you know,
you moving to Nashville. Everybody always said you got to
move to Nashville and you don't really understand what that
means until you get there. But that's where everyone goes
to live that life. It's eat, sleep, breathing and live
in it, you know, and you build a constituency, a
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network of people that do the same thing you do.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
You build friendships and a lot of times those friendships
pick you up when you're in a bad place. You
know you'll have somebody call you. You have somebody reach
out and you know, it's just like life. You got
people in your life for a reason. They help keep.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You motivated when there's times you don't want to be
motivated and you just kind of forge through, and those
are the times that really make you who you are.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Stay tuned.
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We'll be back right after this. So you said you've
sung at the Pentagon. Now we know that Carrie Underwood
(12:25):
is singing today. She is singing America the Beautiful at
the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
She's received tremendous backlash.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
For this, and I think a lot of people have said,
you know, how is it that you can sing at
such an important moment in the country's history.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
No matter who the president is.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is a moment that does go down in history,
and it will whatever this term brings, there will be
a definition to certain things that happen in America from
now on. Because Donald Trump will be inaugurated today.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So when you see her being attacked over this, what's
your reaction to that?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, you expect that you've seen it for you know,
the last however many years that the left, especially just
you know, just tries to destroy anybody that dissents from
whatever their ideology is. You know, kudos to Kiri. She's
a she's such a class act. She's got strong conviction
in her faith. She's a stratospherical talent. But kudos to
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her for having the courage because you know, as you mentioned,
she's already received backlash that's going to continue. But you know,
I think she's helped helping to forge new paths too
for other artists. It's just like the dance floor. You know,
nobody wants to get on the dance floor, and you
get one person on the dance floor. You know, you
have obviously, you have the very shy tet nugent, and
you have the guys like Kid Rock and and other
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artists that are willing to put their neck out there.
But then in the wake of that, you get guys
like Jason Aldine that kind of emerge. You know, obviously
Toby Keith, you know it wasn't afraid to be that guy.
But then you get you bring a whole new class
of conservative. I think with Carrie Underwood, she's just a
classy I mean, that's kind of what really personifies her brand.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
So I think it's a great thing for her. I
think it's a great thing for conservatism.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I think it's a great thing for the Trump you know,
presidency obviously, to align themselves with that brand.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know, it's interesting that you say that, because being
bold in this time is challenging, and I think we
saw a lot of that in the past year. But
people have been cautiously bold when it comes to conservatism
because there has been such a vicious attack and we
saw even the weaponization of government. We saw the weaponization
of social media, even against parents who were getting kicked
(14:43):
out of their accounts, and it's been a challenge. It's
interesting because when you see Beyonce and Taylor Swift and
all these people come out without any fear of saying, hey,
I support Kamala Harris, and nothing seems to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, yes, last night I was reading that Carrie
Underwood has had a million people on follow her and
they won't listen to her music and they're out there
talking about it. And you know, maybe that happened when
Taylor Swift came out, but I don't remember that happening.
I don't remember conservatives saying, if you're not on our side.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We want nothing to do with you. And I and.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think, I mean, I have seen occasionally conservatives that
are like, go out and cancel. Obviously, there was the
Target situation. I think that was different. It wasn't like
we're never shopping at Target again. We want you to
know that we don't like you to to thumb your
nose at our values, but certainly not that we don't
want you at all around ever again. And Carrie, I
(15:45):
think she had a good response to this. She said,
I love our country and am honored to have been
asked to sing at the inauguration and to be a
small part of this historic event. I'm humbled to answer
the call at a time when we must all come
together in the spirit of uni and looking to the future.
Do you think that's what we're going to start seeing
from now on as people saying, you know what, maybe
(16:06):
we should come together.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I think we've already seen it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I think we're already seeing that paradigm shift in, you know,
kind of the cultural climate. You know, you're seeing like
Joe Scarborough you saw and his co host made the
trip to mar A Lago, which they of course they
received immense backlash four. But you're just seeing the general
tone of the response of Donald Trump and how people
(16:31):
are handling their response of you know, his presidency and
his public engagement seems to be completely different. So it'll
be interesting to see as his presidency unfolds how that's weighed.
Obviously the view hasn't really changed course very much, but
who really expected that? But I think you're already seeing it.
(16:54):
And look, I think over the course of the eight
years from his presidency through the four years of Biden,
you've watched the media really try to just destroy this guy.
And I think even I think even the constituents who
aligned maybe with the liberal political ideology, maybe a percentage
(17:14):
that has stepped back and gone. Man, it sure seems
like this whole witch hunt thing, maybe there's something to it.
And that's as that's kind of unraveled through his reelection,
it seems like they're starting to kind of read the
tea leaves.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So I mean, even when you what shows are resonating,
you've got people watching things like Yellowstone and land Man,
and then that there was that clip about the I
think it was the windmills that went viral from land
Man where he's talking about, you know, you have no
idea what you're talking about. You can't get away from
oil and just the lack of knowledge of what these
(17:53):
resources actually do. But the fact that now that's being
called out, even from Hollywood. And then a couple of
weeks I had someone from Hollywood say, you know what,
it's interesting because Hollywood right now is reaching out to
people and saying you got anything faith based, because faith
films are really selling right now. And we had someone
on the podcast who kind of studies culture, and they
(18:14):
said that this latest generation, generation Alpha is really and
even I guess gen Z and Alpha are really kind
of heading back toward faith and pulling out Bibles and
young people are seeking God. But then that generation that
is in high school going into college right now, those
(18:35):
kids are actually seeking out like traditional Latin masses and
really seeking that higher power, which I find interesting that
that seems.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
To have kind of happened on its own.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I've watched it with my own daughter, the algorithm on
social media.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Parents are all afraid of social media, but she has.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Been looking at faith, faith based sayings and faith based
clothing and things like that, and she kind of continues
to get bombarded with those messages, Hey, kids like this,
We're going.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
To keep pushing it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
They've seemed to be led back to that in unusual
ways through social media, where we thought social media was
really bad, but now people are seeking God.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, who knew the.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Holy Spirit was on social media's appreecy. At the end
of the day, I think just what we just talked about,
with some of the consistent rhetoric from the media, they
were hammering, hammering, trying to sell a manufactured narrative, and
what I think a lot of people have realized that
(19:40):
there had not been digesting and being.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Delivered the truth.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And so regardless of what side of the aisle, I
think we've got to get back to a society of
seeking to find the truth.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
What is the truth?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And you know that's where that's where the truth road
leads to is at the of Jesus, at Christianity, And
so I think that's a great sign for society. If
our younger generations, I think maybe on the back of
getting delivered this manufactured narrative of trying to manipulate information
(20:17):
from the media, they're trying to manipulate a certain way.
I think the general masters are realizing we're not getting
the truth from media, I'm going to have to seek
something else. And that's pushed people into a search for
something much more important and much greater than just Yellowstone
or land Man. So it's I think that's very positive thing,
especially for the younger generations.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But it's interesting that as it pushes people towards that,
Hollywood is scrambling to try to provide what they're looking for,
which is fascinating to me because.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Right, but also interesting how God.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Works in this moment, because the people that probably need
to study God the most are the ones who now
will be doing that by bringing people to stories of faith,
because if you create a story of faith, you have
to be pretty heavily involved in how did you get there?
And I mean people who have even remembered the story
of Unbroken. When Angelina and Jolie worked on that film,
(21:16):
you saw kind of a transformation of how she saw
his faith and she talked about I was really amazed
by how his faith had gotten him through that situation
where he came back from World War two and was broken,
but obviously unbroken because of his relationship with God.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Hollywood. So Reuters put out this article.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It says Hollywood embraces God and that cowboy curious to
broaden their audience. So I find that fascinating too, because
we've gone through years now the story of toxic masculinity,
and we don't want these powerful men who are the
leaders of their family who will take care of women.
And I've thought, what a disaster for men and women
(22:00):
both because I have seen women and we've and I'm
sure you've seen this too, women who have had doors
open for them and they're horrified. Don't you, dare, Don't
you open my car door? Don't you treat me like
I can't do things for myself. But that really is
a sign of respect. There was a respect between men
and women, and I think that cowboy culture kind of
brings that back one hundred.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I mean we're we're a unique culture in that aspect
is that we celebrate and we truly do, like at
our forefront, we protect women. And the feminist movement has
taken women back in that regard for all of the
wrong reasons, for just a just kind of emotional you know, narratives,
not not any reality to it.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
So yeah, it's a great thing to see. I you know, I.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Dare say I don't digest a lot of TV, so
I don't. I've never seen Yellowstone, I've never seen land Man.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
That shocks a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But you know, at the at the root of it,
what you're talking about, the chivalry, the old fashioned traditional
values of.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Man leading in his home is a It does not
take away from what women offer to the household. You know.
I use the analogy one time.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I was having a discussion with somebody about this and
I said, you know, I can drive a nail with
a pipe wrench, and women can do this a lot
of the same things men can do. That's not what
they're designed for. And men aren't designed to do certain things.
We can certainly help to raise and nurture children, but
that's not my primary that's not what I was designed
to do. So, you know, having both of those aspects
(23:39):
in a mutual relationship, working together, that's how we're designed.
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Speaker 2 (25:03):
With more.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And I think there's been this confusion where it's like,
if a woman is able to do those things, then
she should have this dominant role. And regardless of what
you can do physically, or whether or not you're better
at fixing a hole in the wall or getting the
hinge on the door just correct, there is still a
relationship between men and women. That a partnership that people
(25:29):
are afraid to acknowledge today that there are times when
as a woman, I just want to fall into my
husband's arms and let him, you know, put it, you know,
feel that embrace. And my husband doesn't need that's it's
a different relationship. He needs to be the person that's
protecting me. He doesn't need to be the person who's protected.
Those are natural, that's a natural feeling, and it's a
(25:52):
good place to be to have that relationship.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It's not weakening a woman.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And I think when you brought up the feminist movement,
that was not how it started. You know, when you
had Ruth Bader Ginsburg fighting for women's rights, it was
so that women could walk into a courtroom. I mean
what I saw with Pambondy this past week and her
facing these people in these hearings. I watched that and
I said to myself, there's so few times today that
(26:19):
I see a woman who walks into a room and
is so powerful. It was such grace that isn't that
doesn't feel like she has something to prove, that just
exudes confidence and ability.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I looked at that.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I watched that and I thought to myself, I want
my four girls to sit down and watch how Pambondi
handled this, because she is a role model for what
feminism truly is. She goes in there and she's powerful,
but she's graceful, and she's beautiful, and she she just
came off with such power and dignity without coming off
(26:58):
as she didn't need anybody else. E you know, there
was something about that power in that room that was
very sensitive and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Beautiful at the same time as being powerful.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
This is just goes into the conversation I have oftentimes
when there's the political discourse begins. I don't know, I
don't know anybody I can that I think of that
I know, or I have conversations like this where they
truly think like conservative and a conservative framework go, but
women aren't qualified or a woman of color or whatever
aren't qualified. Most of people that I know, they say,
(27:33):
whoever is the most qualified, regardless of what their sex, gender, heritage, background, ethnicity,
whatever that is, which.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Is what I think of when I think of condellez
a race.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You look at somebody that's incredibly well spoken, very intelligent, articulate,
deep in the knowledge of her expertise. Nobody looks at
that and goes, well, that's great that she's got those qualifications,
but these things, you know, detract from her ability to
execute well.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think that's actually why people have been so upset
about Dei, because DEI created this space where people went,
wait a minute, are you qualified or did you just
get this position because of what you look like? And
from my perspective, as a woman who came out of
the steel industry and honestly walked into plenty of rooms
where men went, I don't know how I feel about
(28:21):
you being here and had to prove myself. I don't
want people, whether it is a woman or a person
of color or whoever it is, to ever walk into
a room and have the people in that room automatically
think in their head did you get hired because you
had to fill a quota.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And I think that that was I don't think that
that was foreseen.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I don't think that's what people intended when they created DEI.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
That is what was created.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And that's why I'm so happy to see all of
these companies say, man, this was a mistake. It actually
didn't help. It hurt people more than we could have foreseen.
And I think women and people of color are going
to it's going to be probably five to ten years
before we can get past that image in people's minds
when we walk in a room that we are just
(29:07):
the DEI hire. I mean, I've had people say it
about me on Twitter. I know other people of color
who have had them that's said about them on x
and on all these platforms, and it immediately takes any
credibility out of your sales and you go, gosh, no,
that's not why I was chosen to do this. And
(29:29):
I think that it's amazing to see how that was
turned around. And people like Pam and people like Condaliza
are going out there and still speaking and out there
public and people look at them and go wow. Actually,
especially with Pam Bondy, Donald Trump chose her because she
is on fire.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
This woman is incredible. There's no DEI hear this was
the right person for the job.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
That's not how you felt when when Joe Biden was
in office and the well he was choosing, they were
not the right person for the job. They were they
were I guess what it would be central casting for
the leftists.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But right now I think we see people who really
are qualified.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Well, the other thing DEI does it robs someone from
from the value of the of the role. You know,
instead of accomplishing this role and being hired because of
your qualifications, now you've been basically gifted the role because
we're going to panter. Do you we feel sorry for
you or we we're trying to we're trying to fill
(30:33):
a slot here, you know, for our lineup, and you
just happen to fit some some racial profiles that we'd
like to fill and install in our portfolio or employment portfolio.
And it just it robs women from the acknowledgment of
in roles like you're just talking about, from from looking
at Pambondi and saying, wow, she was appointed because she
(30:54):
must be highly intellectual, well qualified, articulate, powerful human being,
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But it has it has been great to see.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I mean, obviously there's some outliers, but folks on both
sides of the aisle who have come out and said,
she's an accomplished woman, she is the right person for
this job. We are impressed with what she's been able
to do as the attorney attorney general Florida, and to
come into the US government and take on.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That role would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And to your point, I think that too oftentimes, now
that this DEI has occurred, and now.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
That people have this this.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Concern in their minds when they look at you, there
is nothing worse than having someone look at you with
pity because they don't know if you should be where
you are. And I mean, I think everybody who is
considered a DEI higher these days has had that experience where.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's like, are you really there? Are you really the
person that's right for this?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And I'm glad that Donald Trump has pushed back on
that and proven that people, no matter what they look like,
there are people that can do any role and be
successful at it.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Oh yeah, I mean that's the whole I think that's
the whole point about the free trade capitalist system is
it allows the person who has acquired the most qualifications
and is the best person for the job to have
the opportunity to succeed. And it allows under that system
allows anybody regardless of your background.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I mean JD. Vance is a tremendous story.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know, to look at his background when he's accomplished,
where he's come from, and then where he is now.
You know, the manner in which he carries himself I
think is so valuable going back to the younger generation.
Here's a guy who was a champion of conservatism but
is a pretty pretty good disconnect from what Donald Trump is.
(32:47):
I mean, he compliments him very well, classy, well spoken,
very patient.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
And.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well calculated in what he does when he engages with people.
I mean, the one thing I noticed about the debates
UH with JD. Vance Dance specifically, was that when he
lays out his point, it seems like the other side
is willing to receive that and and kind of concede
(33:15):
and go, you know what, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
And it's not like this.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You know, somebody may lay out a point because they're
so hyper partisan on the right, and you just you
inflame and then it just goes back and forth. Reagan
was great at this Reagan was great at making you smile,
bringing you in with humor, and then laying out the punchline,
which was usually very pro conservative, but it even made
you know, you look at Mondale on those debates and
(33:42):
when Reagan made that classic quip about I will not
exploit my you know, my my uh.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Experience.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, and even Mandy they pandam mania, even Mondale's laughing.
You know, I think there's an element of that in JD.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Vance, which is just awesome.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, I think that what I've seen.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I even in the past week when with these hearings,
you've seen some folks who have tried to up the
rhetoric and get some jabs in, maybe get a viral moment.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
They haven't really received what.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
They think I think they wanted. I think it's been
the people that Trump has brought in. They're serious, they're focused,
they're professional.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think JD.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Vance what you were saying, Yes, he was very professional
what he came out as a true leader in those debates.
And so I'm excited about what we're going to see today.
I'm excited about the next hundred days, but I certainly
am excited about the next four years. But you have
a lot coming up too, So before I let you go,
I want you to tell us what's going on in
the next few months. What's happening. You've got some concerts,
(34:53):
tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, Well, summer's going to be busy. I'm going to
be doing a little bit of traveling. I'm going to
be all over the place. People can check out dates
all Jennings music dot com. We for the last few years,
we've been recording four songs in the spring and rolling
those out kind of throughout the summer, just to stay
active and keep delivering new music. And you know, that's
kind of the plan for me, is new music in
(35:15):
the spring, travel and shows through the summer. And I'm
excited for the firste hundred days too. I'm excited for today.
It's just seems it feels like a completely different climate.
So it'll be interesting to see, you know, how he's
able to bipartisanly accomplish things that maybe otherwise in the
(35:35):
first term or he wasn't able to do.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yep, I agree. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And I think that God had a plan the way
he spread this out and separated.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And he's always on time, you know, So it's like
if it's meant to be, you know, you can't stop it,
and if it wasn't meant to be, you can't force it.
It's just fun to sit back and watch things unfold
and know that he's always on time.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Absolutely, Kyle Jennings, thank you so much for being on
today and sharing with us.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Thanks so much for having me. It's been great to
be here.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Absolutely, and thank you all for listening to the Tutor
Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
For this episode and others.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Go to Tutordison podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts and join us the
next time.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Have a blessed day.
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