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January 20, 2025 55 mins
America the Beautiful. Biden’s preemptive pardons. Vibe shift. Sen. Bill Hagerty calls in.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome it, everybody to the Inauguration Day special edition of
Clay and Buck. We are live with you in Washington,
d C. Just a few blocks away from our nation's capital,
where the swearing in of number forty seven Donald John Trump,
once again President of the United States, kicking us off

(00:21):
for what we believe to be an incredible four years
ahead for this nation. He gave a great speech. We'll
give you some of those highlights as well. A bunch
of executive orders going to be coming down shortly, will
be signed up on the stage, I believe here in

(00:41):
the Capital One Arena, a big sports arena that's going
to be the site of a Trump rally coming up momentarily.
We have some closing moves by the Biden regime, the
former Oh Clay, it's amazing. This is our first full
hour of a Trump presidency together on the show. We

(01:03):
have had to sit there together for three years of
the Biden disaster. And it is over. It feels good.
It is morning in America. It is a great time
in so many ways. So we're gonna make sense of
all of this and talk to you about some of
the big moves today. But just one moment in time,

(01:24):
here to share together. Carrie Underwood we all know from
being a what platinum selling artist American Idol fame. I
remember watching her when she was just making her start
on American Idol. She's she's a big deal in music
and country music specifically. She was to lead everybody in
God Bless America, and the audio went off, and so

(01:49):
she had to go a cappella and she just nailed
it in what feels like a perfect start in so
many ways for this Trump presidency. It was beautiful, it
was brave. Let's listen to it together for a.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Moment, ohby fall for spacecious guys, for a boo wave
of grating for perple.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Mountain man sees.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Above the fruit reading plan Onarica Onerica, God shape, he
grats f be and.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
My good wade from seed to shine.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
See this.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Carrie Underwood has pipes, play, turns out, she sing, turns out.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
She's a really good singer, but honestly way better. I
think that she on the fly, even though the audio
was all screwed up, was able to take that and
then lead everybody in the entire rotunda in a unison
sing along.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
What an incredible moment.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
I think You're going to be seeing that for years
and years to come as sort of an embodiment of
a revitalized American spirit. And you hit on this, and
I think it's really important. We're in DC right now,
we're just a couple of blocks away from the Capitol
and the Capitol One Arena where there's going to be
a rally later here in our iHeart studios. There is

(03:46):
almost no resistance right now. We drove through the parade
of protesters a couple of days ago. Yeah, you and
I kind of felt sad for him. I mean, it
was cold, it was a little bit rainy. Even the
women in the vagina hats, they weren't even like the
vagina hats looked worn and old and decrepit. There wasn't

(04:06):
a lot of enthusiasm. There's sort of one bedraggled person
beating on a drum, a few haphazard, listless chants surrounding that.
There is no opposition. And for those who were let's
say just kind of middle of the road, let's say
you're not a particularly political person, but it's MLKDA and
it's the inauguration, and you watch that. I think if

(04:28):
Trump takes the actions he promised he's going to take
and in the wake of that, which will probably been
watched by I don't know, one hundred million people, I
think Trump is going to my prediction, within a couple
of weeks, the honeymoon is going to kick in, and
he's going to have the highest approval ratings substantially of
his political career.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Absolutely. I mean, he's already going into inauguration Day with
the most favorable numbers that he has ever had. You know, Clay,
I was actually just reading recently that when they ask
people and they go back to the incredibly successful and
consequential people, what is the most underrated characteristic that you

(05:10):
can have to get you where you need to go?
You know what? You know what comes up a lot stamina,
which is really a combination of perseverance, endurance, all these things.
The stamina that Donald Trump had to have. It felt
very much like this reelection campaign started with the FBI
raid of his home at mar Lago, with the Democrat

(05:35):
media absolutely gleeful at the prospect of trying to send
Donald Trump to prison. They really now that feels almost
like a like a nightmare or something that's fading from
our consciousness. That was what they were trying to do,
and he beat them at He beat them. He got
through all this, he fought through the ambush, He did

(05:57):
all this, and to be here today not only with
him taking office, but with the clearest field and the
clearest vision to implement. I think we have ever seen
in certainly the Trump era, but honestly in American politics.
And I was actually I went to I've been joking
around about this because it was freezing and a bit

(06:18):
troubled here in DC. Then I went to the black
tie in boots Ball for George W. Bush in two
thousand and four. Let me tell you that was a
very different You know, yes, Bush had won reelection, but
you had the Iraq War, you had Afghanistan, you had
nine to eleven. You know, the country perhaps had come
together in many ways, but politically Bush was starting to

(06:39):
get on shake ear and shake your ground anyway. You know,
that was not a moment of sort of glorious victory,
even in the same stratosphere as what it feels like
we are seeing right now with Donald Trump. And then
you go to eight years of Obama and then you
have Trump twenty sixteen, which we talked about. This feels

(07:03):
like the most complete and total victory for a Republican,
certainly in re election, but I would argue of any
election in my adult lifetime, I think you'd have to
go back to Reagan, which I was a little too
young to really remember, for it to feel like such
a cultural and political and just across the board victory, mandate,

(07:27):
and mission.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
I think also to your point on twenty seventeen as
opposed to twenty five, I think you're gonna hear more
and more people talk about on the left, boy, we
wish Trump had just taken office in twenty twenty. He
wouldn't have had anywhere near the same measure of power.
And I would say even comparing twenty seventeen and twenty
twenty five, as we get started here, remember in twenty seventeen,

(07:50):
Mitch McConnell's Senate majority leader, Paul Ryan was the Speaker
of the House, and both of those individuals sort of
looked at Trump as a child that they needed to manage.
He wasn't sophisticated in the ways of the swamp. He
hadn't actually learned a lot of what being a politician entails.
He had a lot of natural talent, but he hadn't

(08:11):
necessarily sort of moved himself into the job and gotten
comfortable with it. Now you've got Mike Johnson, who basically
is Trump's chosen speaker, and you have Thun who is
John Thune one hundred percent it would appear behind Trump
with the fifty three Senate majority. This is a Republican

(08:31):
party that's ready to move, and they're ready to move aggressively. Look,
I think you can say if they can't get it
done now, they never are going to get anything done. Right,
we might as well just this is the most auspicious
beginning for a Republican administration in certainly my adult lifetime.
So we're going certainly in the twenty first century, Okay,

(08:54):
we can go back. Multiple administrations haven't seen anything quite
like this, and we already know what some of these
big agenda items are. They are not wasting time. To
the point about the twenty seventeen versus twenty twenty five
comparison that we were just talking about, Clay, you know,
Trump was an outsider, didn't really know how some of
the machinery worked, didn't really have in place the first

(09:17):
time around a trade you a member who was running
that transition and it was a lot of build the
ship as you sail it. This time around, it's like
the battleship has already pulled into the harbor and they
are ready to go. It's a very different feel in
terms of that preparation and readiness to hit the ground.
I think Trump had a philosophy in twenty seventeen, I

(09:39):
don't think he had an ability to implement the philosophy,
and I don't think he had the people surrounding him
with an ability to do it either. This feels completely different.
I think in the first few months we're going to
see a governmental shift, the lacks of way, the likes
of which most of us have not seen in our lives.
And to your point, Buck, it might seem small, but

(10:02):
Carrie Underwood singing a cappella. You had Elon Musk, you
had Jeff Bezos, you had Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook of Apple,
Sundar Pashai, I believe, of Google, all of the big
tech executives. You had Logan and Jake Paul, I believe
Connor McGregor, a lot of the sports sort of universe
that came out for Trump. Unlike in twenty seventeen, when

(10:24):
it felt like everyone in sports, business and culture was
aligned with the resistance. Overnight the culture has become Trumpian,
and now sports business and culture is all to me
aligned moving in concert with Trump. And again I come
back to seeing those poor bedraggled protesters that didn't have

(10:45):
any real measure of support. Even the media is not
coming after Trump like they did before. I think it
is a different world. It is a brand new universe.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Imagine, Clay, if you could indulge me here for a second.
Imagine we were to go joy riding in the wreckage
of communist souls, here for a second, Given this election,
looking into the mindset of somebody who really believed that
Jack Smith was going to lock up Trump, who really

(11:18):
believed that the system arrayed against Trump was guaranteed to
stop this moment from happening because they were told and
they believed that fascism was descending upon America and that
it would be the end of democracy. Remember, even in
the midterm, they ran on threats to democracy. That was
their prime The threat to democracy was the primary talking

(11:41):
point of Democrats all across the land. The entire machine,
not the fringe, that was the centerpiece of the Democrats' campaign.
And now you're one of those people out there on
the street with the one of the funky hats on
or banging the drumma or whatever. They have been entirely
misled and betrayed by their own side. All of those

(12:03):
people on MSNBC and CNN, they were lying to them.
They were lying to them that Trump couldn't win. They
were lying to them that Trump was a fascist. They
are broken. Now we're gonna get into this too. Adding
onto that, which I think is very true. How about
we were all told, oh, Trump's going to pardon his
entire family because of all the crimes they've committed, And

(12:26):
actually what ended up happening was Biden pardoned Hunter and
his five brothers and sisters on the way out the door,
the Biden crime family. Everything they told you that Trump
was going to do to destroy and challenge freedom and democracy,
Biden actually did. And so I think there not only

(12:48):
is an incredible weakness associated with the way Biden finished
his tenure, I think many in the media are unable
and unwilling because of how worly bankrupt Biden became to
even take aims at Trump over what is likely to
be a lot of part in action today, and we're

(13:09):
gonna update you as the data as released, as the
stories are updated about exactly what Trump ends up doing
today just up the street, across the street basically from
us at Capitol One Arena, as we are rolling through
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Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right, welcome back in here Inauguration Day coverage with
Clay and Buck live here in DC. A fantastic speech,
a great day for America, tremendous Ebullion's optimism effortvessence. I
don't know, you throw your words of positivity out there
because they all apply right now. But I actually Clay

(15:48):
wanted to just take a moment to address something that
is one of the issues that President Trump talked about,
some of the policy stuff that it entails, and also
in some ways the beginnings of justice that we have
been waiting for for years now, for all of Biden's

(16:09):
term four years which is now over former President Biden,
and that has to do with COVID because Fauci received
a preemptive part. Think about that, the first health bureaucrat,
I would assume in American history to need a federal
pardon from the President himself for what he apparently did

(16:34):
in office. Right, this is the first time. So you have,
on the one hand, the obvious, you know, covering of
Fauci's rear going on with this while simultaneously saying that
people fired from government service from the military for refusing
the COVID shot, which was an appalling, tyrannical overreach of government,

(16:59):
uncom institutional, unscientific, too completely pointless. There's no reason to
make people get this shot at all in the federal service,
that he's going to reinstate them with back pay. I
I just I know that there's so many other things
on the border and a million things going on, But
for me, it feels particularly sweet that this is finally happening,
that there's some reckoning underway for what Biden did with COVID.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Well, let it also point this out because I think
it's really significant. Of the pardons that Biden gave, including Fauci,
it runs all the way back to twenty fourteen. Now,
two different angles there. One on Fauci, this is basically
an indication that he committed crimes because that goes all
the way back to the gain of function research, which

(17:47):
Ran Paul has been on Senator from Kentucky talking about
us a great deal that issue.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Buck.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
They're protecting not only what he did during COVID, but
the fact that he was involved in giving a American
taxpayer dollars to China lied about it. It goes all
the way back to fourteen, six years before most of
us had ever thought about COVID. I think that's significant too.
He pardoned all his family members, five brothers and sisters,

(18:14):
Hunter Biden. All of the pardons extend to twenty fourteen.
Why twenty fourteen, that's when Joe Biden found out that
Hillary Clinton was going to be the nominee going forward,
that basically Barack Obama was going to deputize her with
his endorsement. And when that occurred, that's when the Biden
family money spigott really got turned on. Because remember Biden

(18:37):
never thought that he was going to have any further
political career. He thought in twenty fourteen, when Hillary Clinton
was the choice, he thought, hey, she's gonna win, She's
going to run again in twenty Good, My career's over thought.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
He could sell himself at whatever price he could get
and there'd be no consequences. In a million, that's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
So it's really significant and I don't know how how
many people are going to jump in on this. For
both Fauci and for his family. It's not just a
pardon for time when he was in office. It's a
part in going all the way back to before he
even announced he was ever running for president, when the
money Spigott got turned on when the gain of function started. Also,
I don't think we can overlook the jan six. All

(19:20):
of the people who spread the jan six lies, the
Liz Cheneys of the world, the Benny Thompson's of the world,
they're all getting preemptive pardons as well. If you did
nothing wrong. I don't need a preemptive pardon. I don't
need Donald Trump when he leaves office in twenty twenty
nine to suddenly in the last minute be like, hey,
Clay Travis, going all the way back to his entire

(19:41):
media careers, clear, I've never done anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
If you don't, didn't think ever done anything illegal? Legal? Yeah, well,
I've been hanging out with you. You know, our lives,
both of us last few days. You know we're not perfect,
but we've never done anything illegal.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
The idea that you would get a preemptive pardon is
basically an endorsement of the fact that you did something inappropriate.
And let me say this too, you want COVID reckoning.
I know we got a lot of people in the States.
These are federal pardons. Florida has a grand jury that
they opened into Fauci. If I were a governor of

(20:14):
a state like Florida, Texas, Tennessee red state. I would
seriously be talking about the idea of bringing state charges
against Fauci for his actions different than federal He's not
protected there. Maybe there's never any consequences, but I still
think the full reckoning has not occurred, and they're trying

(20:36):
to protect it to some degree from happening.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Also funny to see some of the Democrat hatchet men
and hatchet women, so to speak, bemoaning that they did
not receive a preemptive part in there's a whole list
of people, and some have come out publicly already to say,
just so you know, I was never offered one, and
if they come after me or my family and this
whole thing. I also have to wonder, though, what exactly

(21:02):
was the charge that they thought that someone like Liz
Cheney could even find herself on the wrong side of
this is You can't have a president of the United
States signing a pardon for you without at least having
a notion of what crime may have been committed that
you need to be pardoned from, right, I mean this

(21:23):
is I think there are real questions about whether preemptive
pardons or even legal. Can you just say, hey, you
can't charge anybody with any crime. Usually pardons in the
traditional sense is for people who have been you can
know what the or no, well it's not necessarily convicted.
Like Mark Rich for example, under Clinton, he was facing charges.
I don't think he was convicted. He fled, so he

(21:43):
fled justice and then was part Usually we know either
you're you've had charges or the charges or out there
or whatever else. How can you pardon somebody without knowing
what you're pardoning? Is the point? This is what I'm
getting to. So what what what they should have to
tell us? Hey, we think Liz Cheney may be live
for the following federal statutory and fractions, and we're wiping

(22:04):
it away to just give I mean, this is just
a get out of jailalree cards straight up, without us
even knowing what she's getting out of jail for.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
And by the way, she may have committed crimes that
we don't even know, like and I'm just tossing this
out there. What if Liz Cheney has killed four people
like I in in Washington, the city's really going for it.
But let's say she had then a preemptive pardon in theory,
which does not specify what she's being pardoned for, could
take something like a prosecution for murder if she's off

(22:35):
the table.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Whatever that I forget what the timing is for her thing.
But if she had let's say, committed just federal tax fraud,
clearly clean, clear, can't do it, can't do anything whatsoever.
But for the here's the part of it too, that's
that's such a whiplash. And for people who have been
observing this, and for all of you who have been
with us on this wild ride of Biden madness and

(23:01):
really the mass delusion of the Biden years really kicking
off with the way they handled COVID and then everything
else that was going on, and the anti trumpsm and
he's a fascist and he's a racist, all of these things, Clay.
They ran yes on Trump as a threat to democracy,
which is amazing because here we are celebrating the peaceful
transfer of power and there's such a sense of happiness

(23:24):
descending on certainly half the country across this land, and
I think it's considerably more than half the country. But
that was one piece of it. The other piece, though,
was that they were the rule of law people, Yeah,
that Biden was an honorable, honest guy you could trust
to have a normal presidency, normalcy returning to the system,

(23:47):
and he is. Now this is not a matter of dispute.
It is a matter of fact. He is the first
president to preemptively part in immediate family members on the
way out of Donald Trump didn't do that when he
left office. They said he was, They said he was
going to do it. He did not do it. Joe
Biden did it. Mister I'm normalcy, Mister I'm the guy

(24:11):
who's going to bring things back to the way that
they've always been. He was. It was a lie that
he was a uniter. It was a lie that he
was about the rule of law, and it was a
lie that his brain wasn't scrambled eggs, essentially. But as
we know, perhaps the biggest of all the lies actions
already underway on an executive level as Trump is back

(24:32):
in the White House. We'll talk about this when we
come back, Buck. He's ended the CBP one app which
was basically a speaking of get out of jelfree kind
of a you're able to come in and be granted
asylum on the phone, and there were hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of people who took advantage of that
that is gone.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
So again CBP one app we'll talk about it when
we come back. Trump officially President of the United States, hallelujah, hallelujah.
And one of the things I'm told that he's going
to do tonight buck is continue to focus on bringing
back all of the Israeli hostages, including potentially having some
of the hostages on stage with him in the Capitol

(25:13):
one former hostages that have been returned to continue to
put pressure on everybody else.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Can I ask a question, real Q, Yeah, what is
your favorite executive order so far, either either in place
or about to be? Because we've been told a lot
of what what do you think is? I think the
most significant and consequential is the ending.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Of birthright citizenship. I have to agree with that. Yeah,
and now it's going to be in court for years.
But when Trump started talking about that in twenty fifteen,
it was like the third rail. You couldn't even mention
it aloud without people losing their mind. And now really
the courts are going to have to analyze this going forward.
Does it or does it not exist? Again, we're talking

(25:54):
about right of soil citizenship, like you're just in a
country as opposed to your parents being So it seems
so straightforward if you just forget about all the legal
lees for a second, just think it through. How could
it be that the government of the United States rewards
people for breaking the law? Yeah, how could that make sense?

(26:16):
How could that be what the founders? How could that
be what Congress intends. It's crazy time, It's not something
that makes any sense. So this is why, once again,
the foundation of so much of this return of Trump
is a return of common sense in policy, in the

(26:36):
executive branch and in governance. Yeah, and again, one of
the things that Trump said was they're going to be
hell to pay if these hostages are not back, and
they're continuing to focus on them. And look, this is
one reason why Trump has been so consequential. All of
you and how you voted has already made a difference.
Three hostages returned in Israel. There right now is a

(26:57):
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which is International Holocaust Remembrance Day, even more of these
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Speaker 6 (28:11):
Welcome back in Donald Trump, forty seventh President of the
United States.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It is official.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
We hope you were listening to us live as we
carry that swearing in and also the inaugural address. Buck
and I are up here in Washington, d C in
our iHeart Studios. We will be out tonight. Lives are excited,
got their dresses ready for the inaugural ball. Scene should

(28:37):
be a incredible celebration all over Washington, d C. Hundreds
of thousands of Trump voters have traveled here to celebrate.
Soon there will be a big rally inside of the
Capital One Arena. And there are so many different things
to get to. Major breaking news going to be happening

(29:00):
a lot in the near future now that Trump is
back in office. Let me hit you with several different
things if you're just if you've been busy and you
haven't been plugged in to know exactly what's been taking
place today. Began this morning to find out that Joe
Biden had pardoned doctor Fauci, the January sixth Committee, anyone
involved in that investigation, the Liz Cheney crew, right before

(29:25):
literally in the final moments, final minutes of his presidency
before Trump took office, Biden pardoned most of his family
five brothers and sisters for potential crimes going all the
way back. Preemptied pardons because they haven't been charged preempted
pardons going all the way back to twenty fourteen. The
Biden crime family was real, and all of you and

(29:50):
us who've been talking about it for years. Biden further
cemented that by pardoning Hunter and his five brothers and
sisters preemptively again, they haven't been show arched with any crime.
Trump then delivered Buck what I think was maybe the
best speech of his political career, with just an incredible

(30:11):
recitation of his plans and his belief in the future
of America. And he has already begun to take action.
He's going to be taking action more and more as
more and more of these details come out. But for instance,
he has already ended the CBP one app, which was

(30:31):
allowing hundreds of thousands of people a year to claim
asylum online and come into the country. Reports that he
will end birthright citizenship. Men and women are the only
two genders he's put an order in. He said that
he's going to almost immediately allow service members ejected for
not taking the COVID shot to come back with full

(30:53):
back pay, and all of this moving in just an
incredibly electric and rapid fashion, and Buck, I kind of
hinted at this a little bit before, but the final
bit of this swearing in taking place for the first
time since nineteen eighty five in the rotunda, was Carrie

(31:14):
Underwood singing a cappella after the audio background of her
supporting music was not allowed. It turned into an incredibly powerful,
iconic moment of shared celebration of America. And to me,
as I watched this, and as we have been here
all weekend experiencing it, we have never seen sports, business

(31:37):
and culture all aligne behind Donald Trump like we are
seeing right now. Whether it is Carrie Underwood as I said,
singing Snoop dogg rapping at trump inaugural balls, the number
of sports figures, whether it was Connor McGregor, Logan and
Jake Paul in the crowd there, and then Jeff Bezos,
Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook of a Apple, Elon Musk, all

(32:02):
of these major business titans aligned and cheering on Trump.
We are set. As Trump began his address by saying
it buck for a new golden age of America.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, you know this is all part of I think
the recognition that has occurred at a national recognition, maybe
even a reckoning, that Trump is not some one off
political fluke, that MAGA is not just some slogan that
caught fire in some election cycle back in twenty sixteen,

(32:36):
never to really reach its full potential and have its
full day. This now shows that we are living in
an era of a Trump movement, a Trump presidency, and
an agenda that I think can be transformative. And I
think the agenda going forward has been laid out in

(32:58):
a way that it is is both a cheat largely achievable,
and also more than half the country I think really
does want these things to happen and spoke very clearly
in this last election something that I think is interesting, Clay,
and this just struck me in our in our last
commercial break, you know that Trump was impeached for talking

(33:21):
about a Biden family corruption issue, and he was. He
was impeached, not only completely attacked and undermined by all
of the Democrat media for this, the legacy corporate media
for this, but he was impeached and threatened with removal, well,

(33:43):
threatened with being banned from from office. Really, and now
we have Joe Biden pardoning his family on the way out, which,
as you just told me as well, CNN is even
saying is a stain on his legacy. It is a
remarkable turnabout in so many ways. Imagine if you could
have said four years ago, when this argument was being

(34:07):
made about or a little more than that, but about
Trump and impeachment to the second impeachment, I'm sorry the
first impeachment. I was getting confused the first impeachment of
Donald Trump. Imagine if when you had said that, you'd say, well,
you know Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's family, you know
his brother and sisters. They're going to get pardons from
Joe Biden for federal crimes not yet specified. You would

(34:32):
have that would have been the argument ender for you.
I mean, that would have been so clear. Well, then
there's obviously nothing that is untoward or unethical or illegal
about President Trump bringing up federal crimes. There's no Oh,
my daddy is important. My daddy's Joe Biden. So I
get to commit crimes part of the Constitution or of

(34:54):
any federal law. So I just think that so much
has been brought full circle today, and we've seen so
much of the truth, and I just want everyone to
really take it all in and remember and remember that
you were on the right side of this that you
saw through the lies, that you knew that he wasn't

(35:14):
a threat to democracy, that it wasn't an insurrection, that
he's not a fascist, that actually the people who were
saying that are the threat, or were the threat to
all of those things, and to our institutions and to
our sacred constitution, all of these things, that the country

(35:34):
is healing, Clay, That's really what it feels like right now.
There has been a restoration of sanity that has all
come together on this day.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
And I know that they are going to create opposition
at some point in time. But as we talked about
being in DC and seeing how frankly pathetic and Moreau's
even the protesters look, it's like they've punched themselves out.

(36:02):
You know how in a boxing match sometimes you have
two big heavyweights that are throwing a lot of punches
in the first few rounds, and then they just start
leaning in on each other. Yeah, and there isn't that
ability to throw a punch. I don't know that anybody
in the Democrat Party right now has the ability to
throw or land a punch on Trump, And I think
that's one of the reasons why they're trying to act

(36:25):
so quickly right now. Is because they recognize the weakness
of the opposition and they sort of want to flood
the zone with activities that they know are very important,
but that you can't do one at a time without
creating an opportunity for your opponent to punch back. I
think this is a sign of Trump's lessons that he's learned,

(36:46):
and the sophistication. And also and in Bolden, Trump came
within a quarter inch of having his head blown off
on live television. They tried to kill him again while
he was golfing in mar A Lago. He said, I
was saved by God to make America great again. I
think maybe that Trump twenty twenty five feels a sense

(37:08):
of destiny and purpose that even Trump twenty seventeen did not.
And you talked about the character arc or the hero's
journey that often we follow from a narrative perspective. It
feels to me like, unlike in twenty seventeen, when Trump
may well have felt and since intuitively the struggles of America,

(37:28):
he didn't necessarily know how to address them. Now he's
got a plan, He's got his cadre of advisors in place,
his cabinet he knows what to do and how to
execute on a vision, and I think the next eighteen months,
if he continues with this momentum, is going to be
some of the most compelling leadership and advances in American

(37:51):
history that we've ever seen based on the election of
a president. That's how optimistic I am. In many of
the people on the streets of Washington, d C. In
their MAGA caps, it's how they feel. I believe we
haven't even been able to get into yet. Just the
fact that the economy. I think there's just an assumption
that is baked in right now and has been in
the market since Trump's win, that this economy is going

(38:14):
to start roaring again, that wages are going to increase,
that inflation is going to is going to be more
in check than we've seen in four years, That productivity
everything from small business startups to big mergers and acquisitions
to you name it. The business of the American people
is once again going to be business and not cronyism

(38:37):
and overregulation and quasi socialism and all this other nonsense
that you have to deal with with Democrats. So I
think we're heading into a time of tremendous economic growth
and expansion in ways that the American people will feel.
You know, one of the one of the big fails
of the Biden presidency, and there are so many, but

(38:59):
one of them is not only that the economy was
far weaker than it would have been had Trump been
president the last four years, but also the clay that
kept telling people, Oh, the economy is better than you
think it is. And I don't think that's ever going
to be a winning message. Yeah, I don't think telling.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
People who see gas and grocery and rent prices skyrocket,
who see super high mortgage rates for their homes, you know,
who are seeing and feeling that economic pain, telling them, oh,
be quiet, it's great, peasant. You know, now's not the
time for your complaints. That's what Biden tried and failed

(39:39):
to do, or you know, tried to convince people of.
And I think that now you're going to see an
economy that is up and flourishing and doing the things
that we know are possible when the business of the
American people can be business center.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Bill Haggerty's going to join us at the bottom of
the hour. I'm interested to hear from him. He was
just a few steps away as the swearing in, and
as the Carrie Underwood song, and as Trump delivered his address.
What the vibe was inside of that rotunda where only
a few hundred people were allowed because they weren't doing
it outside as they have in the past. We will
break that down with him, Buck. I still think there's

(40:14):
so many moving parts associated with the early actions of
Trump and also the belated final actions of Joe Biden.
I believe as we go to break here, can we
play this audio clip? I wanted to make sure we
hit it. This is CNN as Biden is flying away
in the helicopter, basically acknowledging how disgraced he is given

(40:35):
the pardons that he gave to his family. Again, CNN
is saying this, listen.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It's just unseemly.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
If you're going to do it, have the courage to
do it in the light of day and explain it
to the American people.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
It's a stain on his legacy to do it like this.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
When CNN is calling it the stain on Biden's legacy,
that they're done with the defense. This is why I
keep saying there's no de facto leadership of a Democrat
party because they shove decide and will no longer defend
their formerly incumbent president and and their former nominee Kamala
Harris was a disaster for them, and that they are.

(41:14):
I've never seen them scrambling like this. I've never seen
so much democrat and messaging impudence as I see right now.
There's just they've got nothing, and it's it's remarkable. Whether
it's the sad protesters, you know, shaking their knees together
out in the cold streets here all the way up
to prime time CNN and the front page of the

(41:36):
New York Times, it all, Clay just looks weak and grasping.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
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Speaker 6 (43:20):
Welcome back in Tennessee, Senator Bill Haggerty joins us. Now
he was in the rotunda watching the speech, watching Carrie
Underwood's amazing rendition of an a cappella song that soared
throughout the entire rotunda. Senator, You've done a lot of
interesting things, certainly in your life and in your career.

(43:42):
But what was that experience like just a couple of
hours ago in the Capitol, And what do you think
the early days of the Trump administration are going to be?

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Like I tell you it with with with marriage and fatherhood,
getting to participate in something like that that's so transformational
for our nation and so desperately needed right now. And
you mentioned Carrie's voice, just spectacular, and we all were
there saying, you know, Democrat, Republican, you know, minister, politician,

(44:12):
military man. Everybody was singing throughout the hall. It was
just spectacular.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Senator, thank you so much for being with us. Buck.
How do you rank in your mind the feeling of
optimism and the sense of destiny that we have on
this look, there have been other Republican administrations that have
come in, and including Trump himself, there have been other
exciting days, to be sure, and you know, the not
too distant past but how does this one rank and

(44:40):
fit in among them, And what do you see as
the most important steps that the president can take here
in the opening days.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Buck, I think it's at the very top. And here's
the reason. And in the first instance, they're just like
this collective cygh of relief across the entire country that
this four year experiment in Marxism over. But beyond that,
there's a sense of optimism too, because Donald Trump is
bringing that. People know now that he's got the capability
and the mandate to make our nation great again, as

(45:10):
he likes to say, but to make certain that we're
as exceptional as we possibly can be. This nation has
so much potential, and he's going to help us realize that.
He pointed to the fact that we've got the greatest
oil and gas resources of any nation in the world,
and we're going to use them. You know, He's going
to take the actions necessary to boldly put us at
the top of every metric. And I think America is

(45:33):
going to feel great about that against the backdrop, Buck
of a population that seventy five percent of this nation
said that we were on the wrong track before election day.
And this is again back to the first point, a
collective sigh of relief in a sunshine of optimism that
I feel like just just unbolding right here in our
nation's capital of there.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
How optimistic are you, Senator, about the fifty three Senate
majority that you helped to make a reality that is
going to be ready to support Trump? How quickly do
you think the bills start getting passed? How quickly should
he be expected to sign them? For people out there
listening right now that say, okay, let's take a breath.
We're excited. We're celebrating the absence the basically the ending

(46:16):
of the Biden regime, the return of Trump. What should
happen first in your mind? And what should people expect
the Senate to be doing?

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Well? The most important thing is getting the team around
the president that he needs to execute on his plans.
And this afternoon, I'm going to meet I'm on the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee. We're going to vote Senator Marco
Rubio out of our committee to be our next Secretary
of State. The Democrats will have their chance. Let's see
if they will, because if they cooperate with us, we
can confirm Marco Rubio tonight to be our next Secretary

(46:46):
of State. Similarly, John Ratcliffe, he's a nominee to be
CIA director. We desperately need to have these national security
positions in place. I'd like to see John come out
of the committee tonight. I'd like to see my Democrat colleagues
cooperate with it. Certainly we need seven more. We've only
got fifty three, and it requires, you know, it'll it'll
require them to agree to change the procedures, to accelerate

(47:09):
the procedures, to get these people out. When the ultimate
vote takes place, we'll get it, because you only need
fifty plus one to make that work. But to compress
the time and accelerate these nominations, which is what I
hope we do tonight and send a message to the
rest of the world that we're serious about our national security.
The first chance happens tonight, Let's see what the Democrats do. Then.
I think what you're going to see is just a

(47:30):
rapid progression of our nominees, particularly when you think about
Pete Hegseit for DoD you think about Cash to Tell
and Pembondi in the top law enforcement positions at the
FBI and the dj We're going to be moving the
pace to get President Trump's team around him as quickly
as possible. And I hope that the Democrats got the
message on election Day in November the sixth that America

(47:54):
needs to see a change, and we need to give
President trumpet team he needs to make it happen. Back
to legislation, We're going to be voting on the Lake
and Riley Act, and I hope that President Trump will
be in a position assign that as his very first
first piece of legislation. What that will do is it
will make certain that people that enter our country illegally
and commit a crime will be detained by ice, picked

(48:15):
up and deported. They won't be allowed to go out
and commit more crimes the way that they occurred under
the Biden administration. That's exactly how Lake and Rally was killed.
A criminal that invaded our country, commits crimes in another state,
moves down to Georgia and does it again, a heinous murder.
He should have never been on the streets. And this
will stop just that. So I'm expecting to see rapid
pace with legislation ready for the President's signature, you know,

(48:38):
as early as.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Tomorrow, Senator Hagerty, you know, the last time Trump took office,
I remember I was in New York City and there
were already these kind of ferocious, I would argue, somewhat
deranged anti Trump marches going on in the streets, and
there was the hashtag resistance, and this feeling that there
was unity among Democrats that they would do everything and

(49:01):
cross really ethical boundaries and legal boundaries as well in
order to stop this president. This time around, it feels
much more like the Democrats are. It's desolate out there
in protests, and it's pretty quiet in the Democrat media
platforms and from some of their bigger shows, and the

(49:26):
front pages of their newspapers just don't seem to have
the gusto for the fight anymore. Do you feel like
the opposition is particularly dejected and what are your expectations
for how that plays out.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
It's totally different. Back back during the twenty sixteen race,
I was one of the President Trump's finance chairmen. The
day act or the election, I moved into Trump Tower
for the transition effort. There, they had barricades all around
the tower. People were shouting at us, spitting at us.
It was just unbelievable, chanting not my president, not my president,
and they had organized protests. We thought they were paid

(50:00):
because they all got together at the same time every
day and the camera showed up and they knew exactly
what they're doing. But that went on for weeks, and
I certainly don't feel about it all to day because
I think the Democrats, even surprise surprise, can do math.
And the math is this, President Trump won in a landslide.
President Trump took the majority of though he took the

(50:20):
popular vote here in America, Democrats came up way short.
And if you just look at the poland seventy five
percent of Americans feel like or felt like America was
on the wrong track. I don't see how they could
possibly defide the numbers. America isn't with them. The media,
I think has changed as well, great allies of the
Democrat Party and the mainstream media, but I think everybody

(50:44):
on that side has got to take a very hard
look at the fact that the Americans have made their
sentiment known. Trump won every battleground state in America. That
is a mandate, and I think their restates can the
entirety of their party's platform and the fact that this
four year experiment in socialism has not.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
We're talking to Senator Bill Haggerty, who is excited to
be enacting President Trump's agenda. Do you feel comfortable, based
on what you see, Senator, that all of the cabinet
nominees that require Senate approval look good to get approved.
Where do you see that battleground? I know you mentioned
that they may try to obstruct and make it take longer,
But by and large, do you think the votes are

(51:21):
there for Trump's people to all get confirmed?

Speaker 5 (51:24):
I really do feel that way right now. I don't
see anything on the horizon today that makes me think
that these people will not get confirmed. The question is
whether procedurally the Democrats will throw every road dock in
place if they can. As I mentioned earlier, we've got
to have their cooperation to accelerate the timelines to get
people voted. Otherwise at is sort of a slow process,

(51:45):
and they may decide to use procedural means to make
us run the timeline out on every single procedural step
when there's another way. There's another way to get this
done much faster, and as soon as these people have
gotten through the Committee of Jurisdiction, they should be ready
for a vote again. I'm optimistic, a little bit guarded,
but I'm optimistic that tonight we'll have a first test

(52:05):
of this. I'm optimistic that Marco Rubio again, I'm certain
he's going to clear the Senate for Relations committee that
I sit on to be our next sextair state. And
I'm hopeful that all of our Democrat colleagues will say, look,
this is something that needs to get done to our
nation security. We're not going to slow it down. We're
going to move them out tonight. Same for John Ratlists
at CIA.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
What do you think about Biden pardoning five brothers and sisters.
We already know that he's pardoned his son Hunter, as
well as the decision to pardon Fauci, a lot of
the individuals involved in the January sixth committee. What does
it do to Biden, Biden's legacy, What does it do
to any Democrat argument for respective rule of law?

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Well, I think it's just a complete mockery of the
rule of law and Joe Biden. If you look at
the press release that they put out, Biden says he's
doing this to protect these people, his family members, people
like Fauci. The j six Committee against quote unjustified and
political motivated prosecutions. That's about as rich as it can
get coming from Joe Biden, because he's the one that

(53:06):
used an unjustified, politically motivated prosecution to go after his
number one political opponent. America saw this. The hypocrisy is
just unbelievable. I'm certain that the mainstream media will not
call him out for this hypocrisy, but I'm telling you
and all of the listeners right now, this is a
mockery of justice. And the Democrats have no hat to hang,
no where to hang your hat anymore when it comes

(53:27):
to talking about democracy and justice in this country.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Senator Haggerty, we think there are great things ahead. We
know you're going to be a big part of it.
We appreciate you making the time for us today and
looking forward to speaking with you. With Donald Trump as president,
it's going to be exciting.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Play but great to be with you. Thanks so much,
Thanks so much.

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