January 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Slew of EOs, including only American flags at U.S. embassies. Huge decline in illegal border crossings. NYC Mayor Adams reveals a truth. Fetterman rumors. Prayer service lecture asserted a false premise and did more damage than good. Boob-gate!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our two Clay and Bought kicks off now, and we
know that the President has come out with a slew
of executive orders, so many of them are fantastic. I
love the only American flags flying at embss's the left.
And people can try to dismiss this stuff as cosmetic
or minor or whatever it's it's not minor because it's
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all part of an ideology that had been allowed to fester,
particularly in the federal government, that you can push your
pet projects at different government buildings because it's for you know,
oppressed people or something or whatever it may be. And
that's just not that's not okay. I think it was
all should all be considered that it was violations of
(00:44):
the Hatch Act, but put that aside for a moment
to say, oh, it's not about a political party. Yeah
it is, actually, yeah, it is okay when you're talking
about something like BLM. One side of the political aisle
supported it, even though it's resulted in thousands and thousands
more people killed than nothing good came of it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The other side has opposed it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The border, though, is where the rubber really meets the
road on this administration, and we're just seeing the beginning
of it, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement arrested three hundred and eight.
Oh oh, we're going to call them I legal aliens
again in the federal government, and we've continued to call
them I legal aliens. The the worst of these, I
(01:24):
think euphemisms, is undocumented. That's the one that's particularly annoying
because what does that even mean. It really doesn't tell
you anything other than, oh, maybe if we just made them,
if we gave them documents.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Then everything would be fine.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Three hundred and eight illegal illegal aliens were arrested Trump's
first day in office. According to the Borders are we'll
get to this here, Tom Homan, what he's been doing
in just a moment. But these are people that have
been charged with murder, child rape, painous crimes. They're illegals,
and they're still in the country. I mean, they've done
(02:00):
horrible things in America and we're still letting them roam
this country as though it's no big deal. I mean,
this is these are the public safety threats that they
said they were going to focus on first. That's not
to say there's not going to be a whole other
range of deportations as well. Trump has deployed fifteen hundred
active duty troops to the border to help with securing
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the border. So that's a part of this. There's been
a huge drop off in illegal crossings at the border.
Clay you had the number, handy, what was It's gone
from over ten.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Thousand thousand, Yeah, twelve thousand in the final two days
of Biden to under eight hundred in the first two
days of Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So what is that?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Like a ninety some odd percent decline in the number
of illegal border crossings just since Trump came into office.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So this is really encouraging and to This was an
interesting moment though, Tom Holman explaining to h Dana Bash
that yes, the Trump administration is going to enforce federal
immigration law and that means that if you are in
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the country illegally and ICE finds you, you are subject
to deportation. This is like a shock to CNN that
the law is actually the law, and some people might
see it that way. Listen to how Borders are home
in was among my favorite of the Trump senior administration officials.
I mean, he's like top He's he's an all star
among a star team. But here he is explaining patiently
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to CNN. Yeah, that's actually what I'm saying. Play this
is cut three, and.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
This is a difference between the last administration and this administration.
ICE is going to force the immigration law. There's nothing
in the I in a immigration nationality says you got
to be convicted of a serious crime in order to
be removed from this country. So there's gonna be more
collaboral rest in Santory cities because because they forced us
to go into the community and find and find the
guy we're looking for.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
At first, she said that the first targets are those
with criminal records, but you are also saying that those
who are undocumented in the US, who don't have criminal records,
people who are working in their communities, maybe even have
spouses who are American citizens, they could be swept up
with ICE today as well.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Well, I'm telling you is when we go find our
priority Tiger, which is a criminal alien, if he's were
with others in the United States illegally, we're going to
take enforcement action against him. We're going to forced immigration law.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Clay what he was saying in the run up to
this explanation as well, is because sanctuary jurisdictions don't want
to have law enforcement, just work with federal law enforcement
on this. Meaning you're in the county jail, Okay, now
you're going to get handed over to ICE. That's the
safest and best way Homan was explaining for that transfer
to happen, and obviously most efficient as well, because they
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say no, they intentionally let them loose in the community.
If an illegal who's committed let's say, a rape or
a murder is found in a house with five other
legals by ICE, all of them are subject to deportation.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And I would just point out, Dana Dan Sorry, I
never get it right, Uh, Dana Bash, Sorry, Dana Perino,
Dana Bash that a lot of this aggressive questioning is
this is CNN, right, Am I correct that this was
the CNN interview?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
There is it?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I believe and again, and you guys can correct me
if I'm wrong. Democrats picked Dana Bash to interview Kamala Harris,
remember Tim Walls, the sort of the Lifeguard weird.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Interview that they did.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And then they went back and they looked at how
Dana Bash questioned in this situation the JD vance versus
how she questioned Walls and Kamala and the disconnect was striking.
She is one going after him far more aggressively than
she as in the past for Democrat officials. And two,
(06:04):
it doesn't seem like she has really done much of
her homework here to be sitting down and interviewing somebody
who is an expert in this and you know this, Buck,
it's a challenge. Warriors have to deal with this a lot,
because let's say you're a lawyer and you're involved in
a medical malpractice case. You're grilling a surgeon on something
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that he or she does for a living, and they
know their expertise so well that you have to basically
become a doctor in order to ask questions intelligently. Here,
there's no homework, it's been done.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
There is.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It's like it's just a partisan attack and he's just
kind of slapping back these questions because they aren't particularly
sophisticated or intelligent in terms of the way that they're
being used to.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Sort of get at this issue.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Now, there's also been the change in how some Democrats.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
View the illegal alien issue.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know, Tucker Carlson as a very big podcast and
he sat down with now sat now with Mayor Eric Adams.
We've asked we're still going to keep asking. He sat
down to have him on, but New York City's Mayor
Eric Adams spoke about what the up to this election
Democrat Party required of people on the issue of illegal aliens,
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and listen to this from a prominent Democrat.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
I think they used the terminology you were not being
a good Democrat. I think that was their philosophy that
I was supposed to silently watch what happens to this city.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I love this city.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
This is a city that I gave my life to protect,
and I was watching the erosion. We would get in
almost eight thousand migus and asylum seekers a week, sixteen
thousand every two weeks, and we were being compelled by
the Legal Aids Society to find them housing within a
short period of time until we had to go back
to court and fight that this humanitarian crisis is.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Not what is normally.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Someone hasn't the right to have shelter within the city
and they were coming in one, two, three am in
the morning. It was a constant.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Overturn, major cost in New Yorkers play and Democrat prominent
African American leader Eric Adams has said this was disastrous
and Eric Adams is in I think an interesting position here.
Let's play cut seven to where he says the Democrat
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Party left me. He is the mayor of the largest
Democrat majority city in America, and here's cut seven.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
The people off to say, well, you know, you don't
sound like a Democrat and you know you seem to
have left the party. No, the party left me and
the left working class people in our conversations that we
should be talking about this are not the issues that
every day people impala talking about. People are concerned about
the future of their families, and that should be our focus,
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and that's the focus of this administration.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Buck This to me is probably going to be the
most interesting election in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I know, he just came through an election and Trump
had incredible success with growing his Asian, his Black, his
Hispanic support.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But to me, we'll.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
See whether Cuomo jumps into this race. Eric Adams seems
to be intent on running for reelection. I know we've
got the governor's race in New Jersey and the governor's
race in Virginia, and those are very important. But what
you're seeing here is some of the traditional Democrat core
base is rejecting now the lies that Democrats are requiring
(09:51):
them to tell. And this is sort of a conflict, right.
We've seen this happen in Chicago, We've seen it happen
in New York City. A lot of these big cities
are saying, wait a minute, we don't have the resources
to take care of actual citizens and give them the
right opportunities in these cities. And now you're telling me
we need to be spending tax dollars on migrants, that
we need to be giving them hotel rooms, Wi Fi,
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free meals, all these things. And there is a conflict
between people who may need those resources, overwhelmingly black and
brown in those cities, right, A lot of white people
need it too, but Hispanic and black citizens feel like, hey,
we're not getting the resources and support we need in
New York, Chicago, Atlanta, LA. And suddenly we're seeing all
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these migrants get treated better than actual citizens. And I
think you're going to see an element of that become
a major part of New York City's mayoral race in
this spring, summer and fall as it moves towards election
day in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I just think about it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
If you're somebody who's an actual American and a New
Yorker and you're falling on hard times and you have
to go and prove you know all these different things
to get benefits, whether you know unemployment benefits and housing
benefits in these things.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
New York City has a very large welfare and benefits apparatus.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But you're going through all those hoops and everything else,
and then you look over and you see hold on
a second. So people just come here illegally, who have
never paid taxes here, who are not Americans here and
they get free housing, free food, and preloaded debit cards.
And I'm paying for this, or at least theoretically. You know,
when I'm working my job, my portion of my wages
is going to fund the City of New York, and
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so I'm paying for this. At some point, Clay, it's
too much, and we crossed at some point, and that's
what Eric Adams is speaking to it. And I think
it's it's indicative of the country's mindset on this. We
were our goodness and our sense of charity as a
nation has been just abused systematically by the millions and
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millions who came across, specifically during Biden and there's others
who have come across two done the same thing. But
ten million people is too many. You know, enough is enough.
The wide open border policies of Biden have made the
American people see that this is a scam, it's wrong,
and it needs to stop. And I'm happy to see
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that Trump is hitting the ground running on this issue,
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Speaker 3 (13:20):
You don't know what you don't know right, but you could.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome
back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. Big article in the New
York Times. We were just talking about Eric Adams and
his repudiation to some extent of the immigrant policies of
the Democrat Party as it pertains to the impact on
the city. Big article in the New York Times this morning, Buck,
(13:47):
I was reading about Andrew Cuomo's proposed running for mayor
of New York City, which is another element in addition
to Eric Adams cozying up to the Trump administry a
positive ish. I think it's fair to say relationship. Eric
Adams came, I believe down for the inauguration, and there
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has been talked that Trump might pardon him. I've said
I would do it. We know what he's been charged with.
I'm sorry, getting upgrades on Turkish airlines is not where
I'm afraid of somebody getting bribed. If getting an upgrade
on an airline is in some way a violation of
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the law, then huge numbers of you out there listening
right now, and lots of politicians in general are in
flaw and the anger of that. And let me tell
you something, Buck, when I flew to Israel and they
put me in basically coach on the flight to the
Israel over, I would have done a lot of favors
to get upgraded to first class. That would not have
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changed anything of any substance, right, Like we're not talking
about getting a house, getting a car, like something that
you would think of as a ribe that is going
to change for the trajectory of.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Policy. Right.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So with that in mind, I do think this mayor
race Andrew Cuomo is going to be the favorite, but
Eric Adams their racial politics dynamics. I think it's going
to be one of the most fascinating races we've seen
in some time. And I don't know that it's going
to break along our normal party.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Lines in the way that it's applied.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
If that makes any sense, and I think Trump can
weigh in, and he certainly cares a lot about what
goes on in New York City. It wouldn't surprise me
if Trump gave an endorsement of some sort in New
York City.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I don't know what that impact would be, but he
got more votes than any Republican since nineteen eighty eight,
and it's possible that there is a growing Trump constituency
out there in the New York City area among people
as you would know, that ordinarily wouldn't have been Trump supporters.
I mean, it's changed a lot. There's a lot more
Magaha walking around the streets in New York City than
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ever before.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, well that's part of the huge cultural shift that
we've been talking about. But some Democrats switching over is
something else that could occur here, you know, Clay, I
mean in office. You know they're talking about they're talking
about our second favorite senator by a pretty wide margin,
but our second favorite senator from the state of Pennsylvania.
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The number one slot we have Dave McCormick, but John Fetterman,
there's rumors going around that, you know, I saw this,
he may leave the Democrat Party. He does need to
up his sartorial game a little bit for inauguration. I'm
just gonna say, Okay, the basketball shorts and the hoodie.
Come on, it's inauguration, my friend. Like, let's you know
what I mean. If you want to do that stuff
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on your own time, that's fine, but put that aside.
What do you think about all that?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Well, So my thought on this, and I think it's
very interesting. My thought on this is he'd probably do
the middle of the road move where he goes independent
but continues to caucus with the Democratic Party. So it's
a lot of sound and fury that doesn't actually signify
very much in the end. I don't buy the fact
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that suddenly he's gonna say, hey, I'm a Republican, and
I think he feels like he has cross party appeal
and that he would be able to get elected as
an independent from Pennsylvania. But really this matters. It's not
whether you're technically a Democrat, Republican or independent. It's who
you go ahead and caucus with that dictates who has
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control of your vote to a large extent for purposes
of control of the Senate. But it would be it
would be certainly a repudiation of modern democrat policies. If
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. I mentioned
this to yesterday. I wanted to dive into it with
play right now. Not not because we want to give
more time to it per se, but I think that
it's indicative of a broader attitude and it is something
that for me at least, is a big part of
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why the Democrats lost as badly as they did and
don't seem to be learning any lessons from that loss.
And it's this yesterday, this bishop who decided that it
was time to lecture Donald Trump and his family and
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also the gathered vice president's family. Do we have her
going on the view?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I just realized, I'm out a tweet it about we do. Okay,
So this is this is what you gotta know. This
person is an activist, a political activist, doing what she
does in clergy robes, doing it from behind the facade
of religious purity, which I find very annoying. Okay, especially
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because I would disagree strenuously. I don't think that the
Bible was supportive of transgender surgery for twelve year olds. Okay,
I don't buy it. I'm sorry, she can try to
lecture me otherwise. I don't think the Bible means that
you also don't have to respect the rules of the
or the laws of the land that you are in.
So I don't think that illegal immigration is something that
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the Bible just says you have to. But put that
aside for a second. I don't want Trump getting lectured
by some left wing activist. And how do we know
she's a left wing activist. She's a long history of
a big George Floyd fan, by the way, you know,
Saint George Floyd, of course, canonized by left wing bishops,
et cetera all over the country. And she went on
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the view last or today?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Was it today?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Today, to make it very clear to everybody where she
stands play it.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Unity requires a certain degree of mercy, mercy and compassion
and understanding. And so knowing that a lot of people,
as I said, in our country right now, are really scared,
I wanted to take the opportunity, in the context of
that of service for unity, to say we need to
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treat everyone with dignity and we need to be merciful
and to I was trying to counter the narrative that
is so divisive and polarizing and in which people, real
people are are being harmed.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You know, Clay, why can't you tell the people that
are so scared, everyone's so scared, stop being such a lunatic.
Don't be scared. It's fine, okay. And if you break
the law, well then you're breaking the law. But you know,
Trump is not unmerciful to the American people. This whole
premise is insane.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, you can't be the person who causes someone to
be afraid and then claim that you need to address
the narrative for why those people are afraid. You can't
be both the cause of and uh and and and
and then claim that you have the solution for a
problem that doesn't actually exist.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I have not. First of all, let's let's let's actually
be clear here.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Trump was the first president to ever enter office supportive
of gay rights and gay marriage.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Okay, no one wants.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
To talk about it because Barack Obama supposed to be
a saint, and because Hillary Clinton's supposed to be a
saint and all these they actually ran opposed to gay marriage.
They got elected and it wasn't until double reelection, correct
me if I'm wrong, Buck. It wasn't until double reelection
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that Barack Obama suddenly came out and said, Hey, by
the way, I support gay marriage. And if I remember
this correctly, I think Joe Biden and actually stepped all
over his announcement because he went on like the Today Show.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
And did it before Barack Obama, did you know.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Because he's Joe Biden, And whether that was intentional or not,
it actually took away some of the impact of Obama
saying it right. Wasn't Obama like fourteen or thirteen or
something like that, after double reelection he suddenly said, hey,
I support gay marriage. This was already decided, the Supreme
Court had already ruled. Trump said, hey, I'm not going
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to oppose this. So this has always been a strange
line of attack. And I'm not saying you're wrong. If
you're opposed to this, make it clear. I'm just saying,
of all the things you could go after Trump on,
he doesn't. He's not supportive enough of gay people. Is
not in the line of attack that I would embark on.
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This is I think you hit on something really important,
and I know a lot of the Trump team listens
to us on a regular basis. Here's what I would say,
do not be a slave to try. Addition, when it
allows someone like this, who is a far left wing
political activist to get up at a rostrum and criticize
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the president the vice president directly like this, there are
many ministers, there are many priests out there. If you
want to demonstrate the importance of faith on the day
after inauguration day, Buck, I think this is a usual thing,
go to a service to pray for the country. There
are tons of people out there that would love the
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opportunity to address the nation, that have an important message
and would have done so without being hectoring left wing
activist in the point of their delivery.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Like, there are a lot of people we could give
a platform two of all different religious faith backgrounds that
would love the opportunity to speak to the president vice
president hear their message. Don't be a slave to tradition.
You know this per and you know what she's going
to do. Let's find somebody else and deliver a message
that's more unifying from a religious background.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
If that's the intent.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yes, I thought it was disrespectful and exactly unfortunately what
you would expect from somebody who holds the political beliefs
that this person does. I would just note, you know,
I wonder where she stands on the obsession with abortion.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
The Democrat Party has.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
She's supposed to be a member of the Christian clergy
and episcopal I don't even know where the Episcopalian Church
stands on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
My dad's episcopal. It's always funny in my house.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
My mom is Catholic, my dad's a Piscopellion, but he
just comes to has spent my entire adult life going
to Catholic services with us. So anyway, I don't know
where the Episcopalian Church stands on these things. I'm not
sure the Episcopalian Church knows where it stands on some
of this too.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But I also think by the way your point the
argument of hey, the Bible has a really specific take
on current political controversy like trans related issues. Again, like
the Bible is an incredible work. We don't need to
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try to constrain one of the parts of the Bible
to claim, Oh, this specifically dealt with whether trans people
should be able to have surgeries when they're twelve years
old to change their gender. Let's be a little bit honest.
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of anyone trying to do
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something like that. Does that make sense? And so I
just I really think there are a lot of great
religious leaders out there that are desperate to have their
message reach the public. And when you allow someone like
this to give them the platform, and now the views
got them on buck, I would just tell them, let's
be to the Trump team. Let's don't walk our guys
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into over the middle where you know they're going to
get decked by someone that the vast majority of Americans
don't like and isn't actually representative of most religious figures
in the country.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yes, I think that's a good a good way, a
good way to put it. And then we get to
the another comment on the view, Clay, I wanted to
throw in your direction here. Oh, no, Anna Navarro, who
I think was an independent now is she is. She's
a former Republican and I've always thought that there was
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there was the saddest category of political commentators for the
last eight years has been have been those Republicans who
make a living pretending like trading on their former Republican
is to trash Republicans, right.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I mean, this is the.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Lincoln Project and the Bullwark and you know, it's like
this is there's just something so cowardly and unseemly about
the whole thing here is from that same milieu Anna
Navarro and uh, look, listen to what she said about
black musicians.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Who support Trump play twenty two.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
The thing that really I think was spotlighting Snoop is
because of the things that Snoop Dogg said ten days
before the inaugural in twenty seventeen. And so look if
you opposed and stood up against Trump in twenty seventeen,
but you were there now, if you spoke up against
Trump January seventh, twenty twenty one, but you were there
(28:24):
now applauding him like a trained seal. Donald Trump has
not changed, You've changed.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I just want to note, you know, if she can
do this all day long, but Clay, they don't have
the cultural power to shame anybody anymore who wants to
be pro Trump.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
It doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I also think what she's saying is one hundred percent wrong.
Trump has spoken to the country and convinced them that
many of his arguments are correct, and also many of you.
I bet there are. I bet there are a million
people that will listen to today's Showbuck, who did not
vote Trump in twenty sixteen, and I mean you have
(29:03):
come along. I didn't vote Trump in twenty sixteen. I
voted libertarian. I've said that before. I wasn't sold on
what Trump was selling in twenty sixteen. Some of you,
from the moment he came down the escalator, you've been like,
Trump is the savior, He's the greatest politician. He's given
voice to some of my concerns.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
But everybody has come to voting for Trump at different times.
I continue to meet tons of people Buck out publicly.
They come up to me and they say, hey, I
listened to you and Buck, I never voted for Trump
in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. By twenty four I saw
what you're talking about. I'm convinced. I meet those people
almost every single day when I'm out in public. I
(29:40):
just met a couple of them at the inauguration. Came
up to me and said, I am at the ball tonight.
I not only voted for Trump, I donated. I became
convinced that his arguments were correct because of what I saw.
So when she's saying, hey, if you were opposed to
Trump in twenty seventeen, you can't support him in twenty four,
I actually fundamentally disagree. I think Trump has been proven
(30:01):
to be right about a lot, and that's why he
got twelve million more votes in twenty twenty four than
he did in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Maybe two handsome and charming guys are a great bridge
for some people to Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Is them. I'm just throwing it out there, you know,
maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Sanity in general.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think we're speaking to a lot of people that
don't feel spoken to, and so I think not only
is Anna Navarro wrong to your point to try to
shame like Snoop Dogg or Nelly or whoever they are
for performing or Carrie Underwood at the Trump inauguration, but
more importantly, I actually think her argument is super flawed
because there are twelve million people at least that didn't
(30:40):
vote Trump in sixteen that voted Trump in twenty four. Like,
that's a big cadre of people that have looked around
and said, you know, I actually agree with what he's selling.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It would be saying it would be logical argument as
I see it, for anyone to say, you know, I
wasn't sold or whatever. Fine, you know, I didn't feel
like he did what he was supposed to do in
the first four years. But Biden was such a disaster
and so bad for the country that I realized the
error of my ways. And now I'm naga all the way.
(31:12):
That's not a storyline that, you know, befuddles me. Also,
it's not even just Trump.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I think a lot of people got a misguided version
of Trump because they trusted the legacy media, and so
I don't think it's coincidental that as Trump has risen,
the trust in legacy media has collapsed, and a lot
of people out there listening to us right now, they
might have bought into the very fine people Charlottesville hoax.
They might have bought into the oh, he's a Nazi
because they weren't really paying attention.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And then once you see.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
One of those stories is untrue, it really forces you
to re examine some of your prior beliefs. And I
think that's what happened with over ten million people between
sixteen and twenty four.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
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Clay Travis at buck Sexton Find them on the free
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in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We are rolling through having a
good time, and Buck, I'm gonna be honest with you. You're
in three different states in three different days. Basically, I
guess if you want to count DC as a state,
(33:07):
although you did fly out of Virginia, so I guess
we can count that as a different state. I'm gonna
be running all over the place soon because it's Super
Bowl time. But I cannot wait to watch the show,
watch the games coming up on Sunday. But today I
did Piers Morgan's show this morning, doing our show, I'll
do the out Kick Show. Then I'm gonna do our
buddy Jack Carr's podcast. Now, no, you did Jack Carr
(33:29):
like supreme best selling author, one of I would say
the five or six best selling authors out there in general.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Excited to do that.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
And then our friend we've had her on the show
several times, formerly of ESPN, Sage Steele. I'm doing her
podcast too. So I've stacked boom boom boom with a
lot of different stuff. You know what I'm gonna do,
and you know what I'm drinking right now, and you
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I know it's gonna be a late night. I know
it's gonna be a long day. I know I got
a lot to focus on. I've cut soda out. Maybe
some of you out there coke. I love mountain dew.
I basically cut it out.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Now.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Somebody's gonna take a photo of me. Occasionally I sneak one.
This is one battle. My wife was right on, you
don't need all that soda. I pretty much go water
or I go coffee, and I feel like I'm a
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because you're stacking a lot of sugar and calories if
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some caffeine. Crocketcoffee dot Com, get hooked up buck. I
wanted to play this because it has turned into a
full on war over the cleavage top that Lauren Sanchez
war at the inauguration that we talked about that we
had some fun with.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Did you think it was that bad.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I mean, I know it wouldn't be my choice like
I would tell I would let my wife rock that
an inauguration, But I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I have not known what's appropriate for a woman to
wear for every year of my entire life to any event,
like my wife I did. What was one of the
first things you heard when we got to got to Georgetown,
got to DC for the inauguration.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
She walked in.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
We were talking about events and clay She was like
Clayton and tell me that I needed a cocktail dress.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
He told me that I needed a formal I don't know.
Let me just be clear.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I don't know what a cocktail dress is. I don't
know what a formal dress is. I don't know what
any woman.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Should wear to any event. But we're gonna play.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I have to play the audio for you when we
come back here, Buck, because evidently this has turned into
a major debate for women out there, and I feel
like men, most of them are like me. I got
no idea what any woman should wear anywhere. I did
look at it and think, if everybody notices your boobs
and it's the inauguration day. It's probably not something you
(36:03):
should be wearing to the inauguration.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know who didn't think her top was inappropriate, Zuckerberg,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Well, now he's on Instagram, why can photos of her
that are just random Instagram posts? Meghan Kelly had a
fun take on this. I thought we would play it.
Maybe we got some women will also who want a
way in, will also take your calls uh and have
some fun here in the third hours.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I also think that the h a lot of the
guys who agree with me, they're not gonna call in
a lot of the ladies who did not appreciate the
cleavage display. They're gonna light us up and me particularly
here in a second. So I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I want to hear eight hundred and two, two and
a two. We're gonna have some fun next hour.
Our two Clay and Bought kicks off now, and we
know that the President has come out with a slew
of executive orders, so many of them are fantastic. I
love the only American flags flying at embss's the left.
And people can try to dismiss this stuff as cosmetic
or minor or whatever it's it's not minor because it's
(00:22):
all part of an ideology that had been allowed to fester,
particularly in the federal government, that you can push your
pet projects at different government buildings because it's for you know,
oppressed people or something or whatever it may be. And
that's just not that's not okay. I think it was
all should all be considered that it was violations of
(00:44):
the Hatch Act, but put that aside for a moment
to say, oh, it's not about a political party. Yeah
it is, actually, yeah, it is okay when you're talking
about something like BLM. One side of the political aisle
supported it, even though it's resulted in thousands and thousands
more people killed than nothing good came of it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The other side has opposed it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The border, though, is where the rubber really meets the
road on this administration, and we're just seeing the beginning
of it, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement arrested three hundred and eight.
Oh oh, we're going to call them I legal aliens
again in the federal government, and we've continued to call
them I legal aliens. The the worst of these, I
(01:24):
think euphemisms, is undocumented. That's the one that's particularly annoying
because what does that even mean. It really doesn't tell
you anything other than, oh, maybe if we just made them,
if we gave them documents.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Then everything would be fine.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Three hundred and eight illegal illegal aliens were arrested Trump's
first day in office. According to the Borders are we'll
get to this here, Tom Homan, what he's been doing
in just a moment. But these are people that have
been charged with murder, child rape, painous crimes. They're illegals,
and they're still in the country. I mean, they've done
(02:00):
horrible things in America and we're still letting them roam
this country as though it's no big deal. I mean,
this is these are the public safety threats that they
said they were going to focus on first. That's not
to say there's not going to be a whole other
range of deportations as well. Trump has deployed fifteen hundred
active duty troops to the border to help with securing
(02:21):
the border. So that's a part of this. There's been
a huge drop off in illegal crossings at the border.
Clay you had the number, handy, what was It's gone
from over ten.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Thousand thousand, Yeah, twelve thousand in the final two days
of Biden to under eight hundred in the first two
days of Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So what is that?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Like a ninety some odd percent decline in the number
of illegal border crossings just since Trump came into office.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So this is really encouraging and to This was an
interesting moment though, Tom Holman explaining to h Dana Bash
that yes, the Trump administration is going to enforce federal
immigration law and that means that if you are in
(03:12):
the country illegally and ICE finds you, you are subject
to deportation. This is like a shock to CNN that
the law is actually the law, and some people might
see it that way. Listen to how Borders are home
in was among my favorite of the Trump senior administration officials.
I mean, he's like top He's he's an all star
among a star team. But here he is explaining patiently
(03:36):
to CNN. Yeah, that's actually what I'm saying. Play this
is cut three, and.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
This is a difference between the last administration and this administration.
ICE is going to force the immigration law. There's nothing
in the I in a immigration nationality says you got
to be convicted of a serious crime in order to
be removed from this country. So there's gonna be more
collaboral rest in Santory cities because because they forced us
to go into the community and find and find the
guy we're looking for.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
At first, she said that the first targets are those
with criminal records, but you are also saying that those
who are undocumented in the US, who don't have criminal records,
people who are working in their communities, maybe even have
spouses who are American citizens, they could be swept up
with ICE today as well.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Well, I'm telling you is when we go find our
priority Tiger, which is a criminal alien, if he's were
with others in the United States illegally, we're going to
take enforcement action against him. We're going to forced immigration law.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Clay what he was saying in the run up to
this explanation as well, is because sanctuary jurisdictions don't want
to have law enforcement, just work with federal law enforcement
on this. Meaning you're in the county jail, Okay, now
you're going to get handed over to ICE. That's the
safest and best way Homan was explaining for that transfer
to happen, and obviously most efficient as well, because they
(04:50):
say no, they intentionally let them loose in the community.
If an illegal who's committed let's say, a rape or
a murder is found in a house with five other
legals by ICE, all of them are subject to deportation.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And I would just point out, Dana Dan Sorry, I
never get it right, Uh, Dana Bash, Sorry, Dana Perino,
Dana Bash that a lot of this aggressive questioning is
this is CNN, right, Am I correct that this was
the CNN interview?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
There is it?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I believe and again, and you guys can correct me
if I'm wrong. Democrats picked Dana Bash to interview Kamala Harris,
remember Tim Walls, the sort of the Lifeguard weird.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Interview that they did.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And then they went back and they looked at how
Dana Bash questioned in this situation the JD vance versus
how she questioned Walls and Kamala and the disconnect was striking.
She is one going after him far more aggressively than
she as in the past for Democrat officials. And two,
(06:04):
it doesn't seem like she has really done much of
her homework here to be sitting down and interviewing somebody
who is an expert in this and you know this, Buck,
it's a challenge. Warriors have to deal with this a lot,
because let's say you're a lawyer and you're involved in
a medical malpractice case. You're grilling a surgeon on something
(06:26):
that he or she does for a living, and they
know their expertise so well that you have to basically
become a doctor in order to ask questions intelligently. Here,
there's no homework, it's been done.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
There is.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It's like it's just a partisan attack and he's just
kind of slapping back these questions because they aren't particularly
sophisticated or intelligent in terms of the way that they're
being used to.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Sort of get at this issue.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Now, there's also been the change in how some Democrats.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
View the illegal alien issue.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know, Tucker Carlson as a very big podcast and
he sat down with now sat now with Mayor Eric Adams.
We've asked we're still going to keep asking. He sat
down to have him on, but New York City's Mayor
Eric Adams spoke about what the up to this election
Democrat Party required of people on the issue of illegal aliens,
(07:28):
and listen to this from a prominent Democrat.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
I think they used the terminology you were not being
a good Democrat. I think that was their philosophy that
I was supposed to silently watch what happens to this city.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I love this city.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
This is a city that I gave my life to protect,
and I was watching the erosion. We would get in
almost eight thousand migus and asylum seekers a week, sixteen
thousand every two weeks, and we were being compelled by
the Legal Aids Society to find them housing within a
short period of time until we had to go back
to court and fight that this humanitarian crisis is.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Not what is normally.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Someone hasn't the right to have shelter within the city
and they were coming in one, two, three am in
the morning. It was a constant.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Overturn, major cost in New Yorkers play and Democrat prominent
African American leader Eric Adams has said this was disastrous
and Eric Adams is in I think an interesting position here.
Let's play cut seven to where he says the Democrat
(08:36):
Party left me. He is the mayor of the largest
Democrat majority city in America, and here's cut seven.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
The people off to say, well, you know, you don't
sound like a Democrat and you know you seem to
have left the party. No, the party left me and
the left working class people in our conversations that we
should be talking about this are not the issues that
every day people impala talking about. People are concerned about
the future of their families, and that should be our focus,
(09:06):
and that's the focus of this administration.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Buck This to me is probably going to be the
most interesting election in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I know, he just came through an election and Trump
had incredible success with growing his Asian, his Black, his
Hispanic support.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But to me, we'll.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
See whether Cuomo jumps into this race. Eric Adams seems
to be intent on running for reelection. I know we've
got the governor's race in New Jersey and the governor's
race in Virginia, and those are very important. But what
you're seeing here is some of the traditional Democrat core
base is rejecting now the lies that Democrats are requiring
(09:51):
them to tell. And this is sort of a conflict, right.
We've seen this happen in Chicago, We've seen it happen
in New York City. A lot of these big cities
are saying, wait a minute, we don't have the resources
to take care of actual citizens and give them the
right opportunities in these cities. And now you're telling me
we need to be spending tax dollars on migrants, that
we need to be giving them hotel rooms, Wi Fi,
(10:12):
free meals, all these things. And there is a conflict
between people who may need those resources, overwhelmingly black and
brown in those cities, right, A lot of white people
need it too, but Hispanic and black citizens feel like, hey,
we're not getting the resources and support we need in
New York, Chicago, Atlanta, LA. And suddenly we're seeing all
(10:33):
these migrants get treated better than actual citizens. And I
think you're going to see an element of that become
a major part of New York City's mayoral race in
this spring, summer and fall as it moves towards election
day in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I just think about it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
If you're somebody who's an actual American and a New
Yorker and you're falling on hard times and you have
to go and prove you know all these different things
to get benefits, whether you know unemployment benefits and housing
benefits in these things.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
New York City has a very large welfare and benefits apparatus.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But you're going through all those hoops and everything else,
and then you look over and you see hold on
a second. So people just come here illegally, who have
never paid taxes here, who are not Americans here and
they get free housing, free food, and preloaded debit cards.
And I'm paying for this, or at least theoretically. You know,
when I'm working my job, my portion of my wages
is going to fund the City of New York, and
(11:32):
so I'm paying for this. At some point, Clay, it's
too much, and we crossed at some point, and that's
what Eric Adams is speaking to it. And I think
it's it's indicative of the country's mindset on this. We
were our goodness and our sense of charity as a
nation has been just abused systematically by the millions and
(11:57):
millions who came across, specifically during Biden and there's others
who have come across two done the same thing. But
ten million people is too many. You know, enough is enough.
The wide open border policies of Biden have made the
American people see that this is a scam, it's wrong,
and it needs to stop. And I'm happy to see
(12:18):
that Trump is hitting the ground running on this issue,
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Speaker 3 (13:20):
You don't know what you don't know right, but you could.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome
back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. Big article in the New
York Times. We were just talking about Eric Adams and
his repudiation to some extent of the immigrant policies of
the Democrat Party as it pertains to the impact on
the city. Big article in the New York Times this morning, Buck,
(13:47):
I was reading about Andrew Cuomo's proposed running for mayor
of New York City, which is another element in addition
to Eric Adams cozying up to the Trump administry a
positive ish. I think it's fair to say relationship. Eric
Adams came, I believe down for the inauguration, and there
(14:08):
has been talked that Trump might pardon him. I've said
I would do it. We know what he's been charged with.
I'm sorry, getting upgrades on Turkish airlines is not where
I'm afraid of somebody getting bribed. If getting an upgrade
on an airline is in some way a violation of
(14:28):
the law, then huge numbers of you out there listening
right now, and lots of politicians in general are in
flaw and the anger of that. And let me tell
you something, Buck, when I flew to Israel and they
put me in basically coach on the flight to the
Israel over, I would have done a lot of favors
to get upgraded to first class. That would not have
(14:51):
changed anything of any substance, right, Like we're not talking
about getting a house, getting a car, like something that
you would think of as a ribe that is going
to change for the trajectory of.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Policy. Right.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So with that in mind, I do think this mayor
race Andrew Cuomo is going to be the favorite, but
Eric Adams their racial politics dynamics. I think it's going
to be one of the most fascinating races we've seen
in some time. And I don't know that it's going
to break along our normal party.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Lines in the way that it's applied.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
If that makes any sense, and I think Trump can
weigh in, and he certainly cares a lot about what
goes on in New York City. It wouldn't surprise me
if Trump gave an endorsement of some sort in New
York City.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I don't know what that impact would be, but he
got more votes than any Republican since nineteen eighty eight,
and it's possible that there is a growing Trump constituency
out there in the New York City area among people
as you would know, that ordinarily wouldn't have been Trump supporters.
I mean, it's changed a lot. There's a lot more
Magaha walking around the streets in New York City than
(16:01):
ever before.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, well that's part of the huge cultural shift that
we've been talking about. But some Democrats switching over is
something else that could occur here, you know, Clay, I
mean in office. You know they're talking about they're talking
about our second favorite senator by a pretty wide margin,
but our second favorite senator from the state of Pennsylvania.
(16:27):
The number one slot we have Dave McCormick, but John Fetterman,
there's rumors going around that, you know, I saw this,
he may leave the Democrat Party. He does need to
up his sartorial game a little bit for inauguration. I'm
just gonna say, Okay, the basketball shorts and the hoodie.
Come on, it's inauguration, my friend. Like, let's you know
what I mean. If you want to do that stuff
(16:49):
on your own time, that's fine, but put that aside.
What do you think about all that?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Well, So my thought on this, and I think it's
very interesting. My thought on this is he'd probably do
the middle of the road move where he goes independent
but continues to caucus with the Democratic Party. So it's
a lot of sound and fury that doesn't actually signify
very much in the end. I don't buy the fact
(17:13):
that suddenly he's gonna say, hey, I'm a Republican, and
I think he feels like he has cross party appeal
and that he would be able to get elected as
an independent from Pennsylvania. But really this matters. It's not
whether you're technically a Democrat, Republican or independent. It's who
you go ahead and caucus with that dictates who has
(17:36):
control of your vote to a large extent for purposes
of control of the Senate. But it would be it
would be certainly a repudiation of modern democrat policies. If
John Fetterman decided to walk away. And by the way,
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. I mentioned
this to yesterday. I wanted to dive into it with
play right now. Not not because we want to give
more time to it per se, but I think that
it's indicative of a broader attitude and it is something
that for me at least, is a big part of
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why the Democrats lost as badly as they did and
don't seem to be learning any lessons from that loss.
And it's this yesterday, this bishop who decided that it
was time to lecture Donald Trump and his family and
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also the gathered vice president's family. Do we have her
going on the view?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I just realized, I'm out a tweet it about we do. Okay,
So this is this is what you gotta know. This
person is an activist, a political activist, doing what she
does in clergy robes, doing it from behind the facade
of religious purity, which I find very annoying. Okay, especially
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because I would disagree strenuously. I don't think that the
Bible was supportive of transgender surgery for twelve year olds. Okay,
I don't buy it. I'm sorry, she can try to
lecture me otherwise. I don't think the Bible means that
you also don't have to respect the rules of the
or the laws of the land that you are in.
So I don't think that illegal immigration is something that
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the Bible just says you have to. But put that
aside for a second. I don't want Trump getting lectured
by some left wing activist. And how do we know
she's a left wing activist. She's a long history of
a big George Floyd fan, by the way, you know,
Saint George Floyd, of course, canonized by left wing bishops,
et cetera all over the country. And she went on
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the view last or today?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Was it today?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Today, to make it very clear to everybody where she
stands play it.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Unity requires a certain degree of mercy, mercy and compassion
and understanding. And so knowing that a lot of people,
as I said, in our country right now, are really scared,
I wanted to take the opportunity, in the context of
that of service for unity, to say we need to
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treat everyone with dignity and we need to be merciful
and to I was trying to counter the narrative that
is so divisive and polarizing and in which people, real
people are are being harmed.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You know, Clay, why can't you tell the people that
are so scared, everyone's so scared, stop being such a lunatic.
Don't be scared. It's fine, okay. And if you break
the law, well then you're breaking the law. But you know,
Trump is not unmerciful to the American people. This whole
premise is insane.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, you can't be the person who causes someone to
be afraid and then claim that you need to address
the narrative for why those people are afraid. You can't
be both the cause of and uh and and and
and then claim that you have the solution for a
problem that doesn't actually exist.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I have not. First of all, let's let's let's actually
be clear here.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Trump was the first president to ever enter office supportive
of gay rights and gay marriage.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Okay, no one wants.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
To talk about it because Barack Obama supposed to be
a saint, and because Hillary Clinton's supposed to be a
saint and all these they actually ran opposed to gay marriage.
They got elected and it wasn't until double reelection, correct
me if I'm wrong, Buck. It wasn't until double reelection
(22:52):
that Barack Obama suddenly came out and said, Hey, by
the way, I support gay marriage. And if I remember
this correctly, I think Joe Biden and actually stepped all
over his announcement because he went on like the Today Show.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
And did it before Barack Obama, did you know.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Because he's Joe Biden, And whether that was intentional or not,
it actually took away some of the impact of Obama
saying it right. Wasn't Obama like fourteen or thirteen or
something like that, after double reelection he suddenly said, hey,
I support gay marriage. This was already decided, the Supreme
Court had already ruled. Trump said, hey, I'm not going
(23:27):
to oppose this. So this has always been a strange
line of attack. And I'm not saying you're wrong. If
you're opposed to this, make it clear. I'm just saying,
of all the things you could go after Trump on,
he doesn't. He's not supportive enough of gay people. Is
not in the line of attack that I would embark on.
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This is I think you hit on something really important,
and I know a lot of the Trump team listens
to us on a regular basis. Here's what I would say,
do not be a slave to try. Addition, when it
allows someone like this, who is a far left wing
political activist to get up at a rostrum and criticize
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the president the vice president directly like this, there are
many ministers, there are many priests out there. If you
want to demonstrate the importance of faith on the day
after inauguration day, Buck, I think this is a usual thing,
go to a service to pray for the country. There
are tons of people out there that would love the
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opportunity to address the nation, that have an important message
and would have done so without being hectoring left wing
activist in the point of their delivery.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Like, there are a lot of people we could give
a platform two of all different religious faith backgrounds that
would love the opportunity to speak to the president vice
president hear their message. Don't be a slave to tradition.
You know this per and you know what she's going
to do. Let's find somebody else and deliver a message
that's more unifying from a religious background.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
If that's the intent.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yes, I thought it was disrespectful and exactly unfortunately what
you would expect from somebody who holds the political beliefs
that this person does. I would just note, you know,
I wonder where she stands on the obsession with abortion.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
The Democrat Party has.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
She's supposed to be a member of the Christian clergy
and episcopal I don't even know where the Episcopalian Church
stands on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
My dad's episcopal. It's always funny in my house.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
My mom is Catholic, my dad's a Piscopellion, but he
just comes to has spent my entire adult life going
to Catholic services with us. So anyway, I don't know
where the Episcopalian Church stands on these things. I'm not
sure the Episcopalian Church knows where it stands on some
of this too.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But I also think by the way your point the
argument of hey, the Bible has a really specific take
on current political controversy like trans related issues. Again, like
the Bible is an incredible work. We don't need to
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try to constrain one of the parts of the Bible
to claim, Oh, this specifically dealt with whether trans people
should be able to have surgeries when they're twelve years
old to change their gender. Let's be a little bit honest.
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of anyone trying to do
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something like that. Does that make sense? And so I
just I really think there are a lot of great
religious leaders out there that are desperate to have their
message reach the public. And when you allow someone like
this to give them the platform, and now the views
got them on buck, I would just tell them, let's
be to the Trump team. Let's don't walk our guys
(26:53):
into over the middle where you know they're going to
get decked by someone that the vast majority of Americans
don't like and isn't actually representative of most religious figures
in the country.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yes, I think that's a good a good way, a
good way to put it. And then we get to
the another comment on the view, Clay, I wanted to
throw in your direction here. Oh, no, Anna Navarro, who
I think was an independent now is she is. She's
a former Republican and I've always thought that there was
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there was the saddest category of political commentators for the
last eight years has been have been those Republicans who
make a living pretending like trading on their former Republican
is to trash Republicans, right.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I mean, this is the.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Lincoln Project and the Bullwark and you know, it's like
this is there's just something so cowardly and unseemly about
the whole thing here is from that same milieu Anna
Navarro and uh, look, listen to what she said about
black musicians.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Who support Trump play twenty two.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
The thing that really I think was spotlighting Snoop is
because of the things that Snoop Dogg said ten days
before the inaugural in twenty seventeen. And so look if
you opposed and stood up against Trump in twenty seventeen,
but you were there now, if you spoke up against
Trump January seventh, twenty twenty one, but you were there
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now applauding him like a trained seal. Donald Trump has
not changed, You've changed.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I just want to note, you know, if she can
do this all day long, but Clay, they don't have
the cultural power to shame anybody anymore who wants to
be pro Trump.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
It doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I also think what she's saying is one hundred percent wrong.
Trump has spoken to the country and convinced them that
many of his arguments are correct, and also many of you.
I bet there are. I bet there are a million
people that will listen to today's Showbuck, who did not
vote Trump in twenty sixteen, and I mean you have
(29:03):
come along. I didn't vote Trump in twenty sixteen. I
voted libertarian. I've said that before. I wasn't sold on
what Trump was selling in twenty sixteen. Some of you,
from the moment he came down the escalator, you've been like,
Trump is the savior, He's the greatest politician. He's given
voice to some of my concerns.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
But everybody has come to voting for Trump at different times.
I continue to meet tons of people Buck out publicly.
They come up to me and they say, hey, I
listened to you and Buck, I never voted for Trump
in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. By twenty four I saw
what you're talking about. I'm convinced. I meet those people
almost every single day when I'm out in public. I
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just met a couple of them at the inauguration. Came
up to me and said, I am at the ball tonight.
I not only voted for Trump, I donated. I became
convinced that his arguments were correct because of what I saw.
So when she's saying, hey, if you were opposed to
Trump in twenty seventeen, you can't support him in twenty four,
I actually fundamentally disagree. I think Trump has been proven
(30:01):
to be right about a lot, and that's why he
got twelve million more votes in twenty twenty four than
he did in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Maybe two handsome and charming guys are a great bridge
for some people to Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Is them. I'm just throwing it out there, you know,
maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Sanity in general.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think we're speaking to a lot of people that
don't feel spoken to, and so I think not only
is Anna Navarro wrong to your point to try to
shame like Snoop Dogg or Nelly or whoever they are
for performing or Carrie Underwood at the Trump inauguration, but
more importantly, I actually think her argument is super flawed
because there are twelve million people at least that didn't
(30:40):
vote Trump in sixteen that voted Trump in twenty four. Like,
that's a big cadre of people that have looked around
and said, you know, I actually agree with what he's selling.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It would be saying it would be logical argument as
I see it, for anyone to say, you know, I
wasn't sold or whatever. Fine, you know, I didn't feel
like he did what he was supposed to do in
the first four years. But Biden was such a disaster
and so bad for the country that I realized the
error of my ways. And now I'm naga all the way.
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That's not a storyline that, you know, befuddles me. Also,
it's not even just Trump.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I think a lot of people got a misguided version
of Trump because they trusted the legacy media, and so
I don't think it's coincidental that as Trump has risen,
the trust in legacy media has collapsed, and a lot
of people out there listening to us right now, they
might have bought into the very fine people Charlottesville hoax.
They might have bought into the oh, he's a Nazi
because they weren't really paying attention.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And then once you see.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
One of those stories is untrue, it really forces you
to re examine some of your prior beliefs. And I
think that's what happened with over ten million people between
sixteen and twenty four.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
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in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We are rolling through having a
good time, and Buck, I'm gonna be honest with you. You're
in three different states in three different days. Basically, I
guess if you want to count DC as a state,
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although you did fly out of Virginia, so I guess
we can count that as a different state. I'm gonna
be running all over the place soon because it's Super
Bowl time. But I cannot wait to watch the show,
watch the games coming up on Sunday. But today I
did Piers Morgan's show this morning, doing our show, I'll
do the out Kick Show. Then I'm gonna do our
buddy Jack Carr's podcast. Now, no, you did Jack Carr
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like supreme best selling author, one of I would say
the five or six best selling authors out there in general.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Excited to do that.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
And then our friend we've had her on the show
several times, formerly of ESPN, Sage Steele. I'm doing her
podcast too. So I've stacked boom boom boom with a
lot of different stuff. You know what I'm gonna do,
and you know what I'm drinking right now, and you
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sometimes I'll even think about it when I wake up,
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need to be a two, two or three cup coffee day.
I know it's gonna be a late night. I know
it's gonna be a long day. I know I got
a lot to focus on. I've cut soda out. Maybe
some of you out there coke. I love mountain dew.
I basically cut it out.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Now.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Somebody's gonna take a photo of me. Occasionally I sneak one.
This is one battle. My wife was right on, you
don't need all that soda. I pretty much go water
or I go coffee, and I feel like I'm a
little bit healthier as a result. Good twenty twenty five resolution,
because you're stacking a lot of sugar and calories if
you're drinking soda every day. But maybe you still want
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some caffeine. Crocketcoffee dot Com, get hooked up buck. I
wanted to play this because it has turned into a
full on war over the cleavage top that Lauren Sanchez
war at the inauguration that we talked about that we
had some fun with.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Did you think it was that bad.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I mean, I know it wouldn't be my choice like
I would tell I would let my wife rock that
an inauguration, But I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I have not known what's appropriate for a woman to
wear for every year of my entire life to any event,
like my wife I did. What was one of the
first things you heard when we got to got to Georgetown,
got to DC for the inauguration.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
She walked in.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
We were talking about events and clay She was like
Clayton and tell me that I needed a cocktail dress.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
He told me that I needed a formal I don't know.
Let me just be clear.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I don't know what a cocktail dress is. I don't
know what a formal dress is. I don't know what
any woman.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Should wear to any event. But we're gonna play.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I have to play the audio for you when we
come back here, Buck, because evidently this has turned into
a major debate for women out there, and I feel
like men, most of them are like me. I got
no idea what any woman should wear anywhere. I did
look at it and think, if everybody notices your boobs
and it's the inauguration day. It's probably not something you
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should be wearing to the inauguration.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know who didn't think her top was inappropriate, Zuckerberg,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Well, now he's on Instagram, why can photos of her
that are just random Instagram posts? Meghan Kelly had a
fun take on this. I thought we would play it.
Maybe we got some women will also who want a
way in, will also take your calls uh and have
some fun here in the third hours.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I also think that the h a lot of the
guys who agree with me, they're not gonna call in
a lot of the ladies who did not appreciate the
cleavage display. They're gonna light us up and me particularly
here in a second. So I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I want to hear eight hundred and two, two and
a two. We're gonna have some fun next hour.
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