January 23, 2025 • 36 mins
The very definition of who should be deported. NASA pulls DEI. Trump calls out bank CEOs at World Economic Forum. What was the priority of the Biden DOJ? Trump pardons pro-lifers. Fox ratings soar while CNN hands out pink slips. The Village People shift to Trump, along with other celebraties.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay
Travis en Buck Sexton Show. I'm out here in Las
Vegas for shot show, Clay in home turf of Tennessee,
and we have a lot to dive into with all
of you. Trump speaking of the World Economic Forum, some
interesting news there on economic matters. We will be discussing
(00:24):
that more on the Well. There's a Trump interview with
Sean Hannity last night. He had some very interesting things
to say their exclusive interview. The Democrat media is still
scrambling not just for a message, but for relevance in
an era of Trump dominance that we are in right now.
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But the biggest thing that has kicked off, and we
are just seeing so many components of this at once,
is the change in immigration policy that has already hit
hard in a whole bunch of places, whole bunch of
areas of policy. ICE has arrested just shy of five
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hundred illegal alien criminals. These are people that have histories
including sexual assault, robbery, drug and weapon offenses.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
They've also had.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
This is all from Trump executive orders and decisions from
the top of the executive branch. ICE has changed their
official terminology to refer to those they arrest from non
citizen I can't believe that was even the policy, while
it was to illegal alien. AOC is freaking out about
all of this, No big surprise there.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We'll get into some of that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
New York Times says how labeling cartels terrorists could hurt
the US economy as a fascinating headline that we will
dissect from the New York Times class how you tweeted
about this. CNN is going to lay off hundreds of
employees post inauguration. Turns out, turning your internetwork into a
stop Trump entity and then Trump winning is not good
(02:06):
for business this time around, at least it seems so far.
But let's let's get into some of this illegal immigration issue.
I mean, there's I understood people are saying stuff Clay
right now, like, well, it's only five hundred of these
criminal legal aliens. They've done these raids to go and
get and I'm quite certain that this is going to
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ramp up dramatically that once the machinery gets in place
and as they get going, this is going to be
a ramp up process. Remember Trump has only had his
people in place, They've only been you know, assigned their
desks and and given their their access and everything for
a couple of days now, so it's going to take
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some time to get this up and where it needs
to be.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, you know what, Clay, we can jump right to
this because I know you you had mentioned this one.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
There's a an illegal Haitian immigran or an illegal alien.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We got to see the terminology change.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's it's because it gets stuck in your head what
everyone's been saying for so long. A Haitian illegal alien
with seventeen arrests was picked up and this was today
on Fox Bill Malugan reporting, this is what the guy said,
as they're putting them in the back of the car, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Not going back to Haiti.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean no. Biden for Averro, Thank Obama for anything
that he said for.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
The bone, Thank Obama for I mean sorry, thank Biden,
he said Obama too. Thank Biden for everything that he
did for me. As the serial criminal offender is put
in the back of a deportation raids car car.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It could not be better for the Trump team to
have this going megaviral like it is. This guy is
in the back of a car, he says. Biden for
which I guess maybe he and he and Jill are
maybe the last supporters on Biden Island, so to speak.
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And he's put in the car again. Seventeen arrests illegally
here from Haiti. The very definition of who should be deported,
shouts out Obama and shouts out Biden and says f
Trump and many of you out there are saying, this
is exactly what we voted for. Take illegal, violent criminals
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out of this country and send them back to where
they came from. And so far that is the focal
point of what Trump is doing. And not only that,
buck the numbers, the borders basically shut down. It's amazing
how quickly you can shut down the southern border if
you want to do it. I think I saw the
number five hundred illegal crossings yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Five hundred counters.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, so that means that includes people who are to
surrender to border patrol. That includes people who make a
run for it, you know. Encounter is everybody that border
patrol basically has to interact with at the border who
are not going through a lawful port of entry. So, yeah,
five hundred down from many thousands just last week.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A day he.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Easily ten thousand a day for years under Biden. Buck
basically a ninety five if I math is right, a
ninety five percent decline. And they're now mobilizing Trump to
his credit, A is sending soldiers marines to the border
to be able to even further restrict who's able to
come across the southern border. It's just kind of remarkable, honestly,
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even people out there, I think who were not necessarily
committed to Trump Buck. Remember, people said, oh, he'll never
do any of this stuff. He's just he's actually doing
even more and none of it's leaking in advance. And
I think this is a big part of his early success.
Remember how every time anybody at anything in the Trump
(06:01):
white White House one point zero, it was on the
front page of the New York Times, on the front
page of the Washington Post. It was designed to put
up obstacles to his being able to do what he
wanted to do. None of the stuff is leaking until
it actually hits the wire and becomes an official order
or a proclamation. It's a real sign of discipline early on.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now this also goes to the change in sentiment that
has occurred because of Biden. Now we had that guy
yell yelling that Biden forever as he's being detained and
is on his way to being deported. But the American
people have changed their opinion on this, or rather more
and more people are of the opinion that this is necessary,
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that Biden's Remember in the first Trump term, it was
build the wall to prevent more illegals from coming in.
The focus was stopping the next thing of illegals. It
really wasn't so so much about taking people who had
already gotten in illegally into porting them. Now, yes, Trump
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had said, you know, send them back and stuff, but
the main chant, the main focus immigration policy was we
got to secure the border with the wall. Now the
focus from day one it's that, yes, they're going to
continue building the wall, but it's also a dramatic increase
in these deportations. And this is where CNN they're explaining
to their audience that look, the majorities and all pollings
(07:34):
say that illegals should this has cut six illegals should
be sent back to their country of nationality.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Play it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
There's been a massive shift from when Trump was first
getting into office eight years ago. Right the port all
undocumented immigrants, you go back to twenty fifteen, it was
forty two percent. Go to twenty sixteen, it was thirty
six percent.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Look at where we are now, this was.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Taken at the end of last year. Fifty six percent
is twenty points higher than it was just before Trump
got office the first time. So feelings towards immigration in
this country, feelings towards undocumented immigrants and deporting all of
them have become considerably more hawkish, and I think that
gives Donald Trump much more leverage to go with the
American people and sort of have these hawkish, some might say,
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harsh different rhetoric and also issue based sort of going
after immigrants who are here illegally.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Absolutely correct, Yes, and what we see happening right now,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
And I think again it demonstrates just how much Trump
has won the argument in the public arena, even on
something I was reading a lot because I'm fascinated by
what the Supreme Court's ultimately going to do on the
birthrights citizenship case that's going to advance to the Supreme
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Court in the months and year to come. Now that
Trump has issued a birthright citizenship executive order, you couldn't
even talk about that fifteen You could barely talk about
the idea of a wall, and now huge majorities of
Americans are in favor of it. Buck, I saw the
trans women in sports issue, the sort of the men
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pretending to be women. Sixty five percent of Democrats think
it's wrong. Now think about how eighty percent of the
I think it was seventy nine percent of the overall
American public. But Democrats are now because of the positions
they have staked out, actually advocating as a full party
against things that Democrats even believe. And I can't remember
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that happening very often in the history, Buck, of American politics.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Part of the huge shift here is that there are
a lot of people who no longer feel like for
the lord of the rings fans, the eye of sourn
is on them, or big Brother for those who are
or well people, they feel like they're lowed to think
what they would think without the pressure of the mob
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pushing them in a certain direction. I think you see
that on certainly the men and women's sports issue. I
think you see it on immigration as well. And you
add to that the numbers eight to ten million is
the official number. Trump says it is more like twenty million.
I mean it's it's just a It's like an entire
large state that has been added under Biden's tenure of illegals.
(10:29):
You know, I imagine if you took I mean, I
don't know how many. Try to think of a state
that has ten million people. You know, New York has
twenty million, give or take. Florida has twenty million, ten million.
What do you think New Jersey probably has something close
to that, right, I mean, I'm trying to think of
a state with ten million. But the point is they've
added so many people illegally into the country that now
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the so called normies, the kind of every day the
people that don't really think that much about politics. Clay,
I think they'd had enough. I think they're fed up
with this. And this is why you're at really a
sixty percent mandate of the American people to get these
deportations going to levels that are going to be impressive
and that are going to cause some friction because the
Democrats are going to freak out.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Prepare if there is any errant deportation, they are going
to cover it at MSNBC and the New York Times
and the Washington Post. I think I could be wrong,
but I think this is what's going to happen with
a fine two comb. They're going to use one failed
anecdotal deportation as evidence of why the entire process is flawed.
(11:37):
And this is the very illustration of dishonest reporting, because
I'm just telling you what's going to happen. They're going
to try to find anecdotal reporting is fine, but the
anecdote should illustrate a larger picture problem, not be the
outlier that doesn't in fact reflect the larger issue. And
(11:58):
what we've seen happen with the way the legacy media
has done in the Trump era is they will find
one thing that isn't representative of the sum total, and
they will try and argue, oh, because of this, we
shouldn't have this policy in place.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Just prepare yourselves.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I want Republicans, particularly Congress, to have spines here and
not immediately turn into turtles and go run and hide
as soon as this story happens, because it's going to happen.
It's an evidence.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The old media game was every illegal who comes into
the country, is you know, building orphanages in his spare
time and founding companies and is you know a navy
seal whatever? Right, I mean, it's just some kind of
superhero has crossed the border. They always act as though
one individual story should somehow dictate the policy. No, the
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policy is about numbers and the aggregate. The policy is
about tens of millions of people taking advantage of the
American people. And it's finally, I mean, I hope coming
to an end. Now we're at least getting far less
egregious than it has been. It's going to be a process.
It's going to take years, no matter what. And this
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is where I've believed all along, Clay, you know, it's
make or break for Trump and his team that they
do this, and they are doing it so promises made,
promises kept. This is where the Democrats are going to
dig in and try to turn the politics of this
country around. I think this is the biggest fight that
we face right now. I actually don't think it's on
you know, Ukraine. I don't think it's on some of
these other things the media focus is on. It's going
(13:34):
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I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I
want to read you an email, Buck, because we're having
so much winning, sometimes I feel like we can end
up not noticing what's going on around us. We talked
(15:14):
yesterday about Trump ending DEI in the federal government. This
email just went out from NASA. Dear agency employees, we're
taking steps to close all agency DEI offices and end
all DEI related contracts in accordance with President Trump's executive orders.
(15:35):
These programs divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and
resulted in shameful discrimination. We are aware of efforts by
some in government to disguise these programs by using coded
or imprecise language. If you're aware of a change in
any contract description or personnel position since November fifth to
(15:58):
obscure the connection between con tracked in DEI, report all
facts and circumstances within ten days. There will be no
adverse consequences for timely reporting. However, failure to report within
ten days may result in adverse consequences.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Fuck, this is just a sea change. Again, that's NASA, where.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You would say, hey, I don't care about anything but
getting people safely to space. Sending that email is indicative
of the major culture shift where suddenly everybody's recognizing and
acknowledging this whole DEI business was a sham. And if
you think it's not going to translate into larger corporate culture,
(16:41):
I think you're wrong. That's the importance not only from
the government.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, DEI really just became a institutionalizing of affirmative action,
meant to stay within the bureaucracy and to dominate corporate
and government hiring and culture indefinitely. Right, And now what
we're seeing is no, it's actually a choice. You don't
(17:06):
have to do this and it's wrong, so don't do it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
This is.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think for a lot of conservatives, we almost because
this has been going on for a long time.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's the thing we call it DEI.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Now, like I said, it's gender, race and others, you know,
preferential hiring and ideological training and all of this stuff
in our generation particular, Clay has been really heavily subjected
to this stuff. You know, your generation, my Generation X,
Gen X and millennials, whatever. This has been something that
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we've had to live with, and we actually don't have
to live with it forever.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It really does feel free.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
If you were born around nineteen eighty, you have been
suffused in this affirmative action DEI culture for your entire life,
and suddenly it's ending.
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Speaker 1 (18:57):
All right, welcome back into Clay and talking long about
the order.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Today.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Will also be talking about what feels like Trump's triump
over the anti Trump media. It's not total annihilation of
Trump's enemies, but it is h it's quite a butt
kicking that they have taken. And CNN among those who
are reeling.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
From the Trump win.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yes, it turns out as a media, as a so
called journalistic entity, as a news organization, you shouldn't decide
to turn your entire day to day existence into one
big anti Trump commercial, anti any politician commercial, because you're
lying to everybody saying you're a news organization. You're not,
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you're activists, you're partisans, you're doing something else. And so
CNN finally, I think having to deal with and own
up to this. We'll get to that in a little
bit and a lot obviously on the board today as
we've been discussing. But something really interesting that goes to
the corporate shift that we have seen where it seems
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like it's no longer going to be feasible, it's no
longer going to be acceptable for companies major I'm talking
like the biggest companies.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
To to obviously and clearly.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Discriminate against people's political views. Right, we're all so obsessed
with oh it did not. We are all, but these
corporations have been so obsessed with what are your pronouns?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And you know there's fifty genders and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
But if you're a Republican, we don't want your you know,
we don't want your business, or you can't say that,
or we don't want to deal with you.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's a disgrace. And Trump realizes.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It, and he was out at he's out at the
Davos World Economic Forum summit. He's in Davos in Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Uh, and he.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Called out the CEO of Bank of America to his face,
listen to this.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
By the way, speaking of you, and you've done a
fantastic job. But I hope you start opening your bank
to conservatives, because many conservatives complain that the banks are
not allowing them to do business within the bank, and
that included a place called Bank of America. This conservative,
they don't take conservative business. And I don't know if
the regulators mandated that because of Biden or what, but
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you and Jamie and everybody, I hope you're going to
open your banks to conservatives because what you're doing is wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I will say that your friend Johnny was set alone,
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Speaker 1 (21:25):
A sponsored the World Cup when it comes, both this
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Speaker 2 (21:29):
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Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, So just to give everyone a sense of what
Trump is talking about there when he's speaking to the
Bank of America CEO. Bank of America has a history
and this is from Attorney General Mires putting this out
in Virginia has a history of denying services to gun manufacturers,
fossil fuel producers, contractors for US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement
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has canceled the accounts of Christian ministry groups just just discriminating,
discriminating against anything that is conservative or or also just
like rule of law.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, and this is a big deal when Trump calls
out companies like this because now he's speaking.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Remotely, virtually via remote he's not actually at Davos.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, they're in Davos, but I do think the bank
CEOs were there. So he's calling them out in the room.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Significant because most leaders of big companies, I'm just gonna
be honest with all of you, are huge cowards and
they live in fear because they make tons of money,
but they live in fear of losing their jobs. And
one way you lose your job is by drawing attention
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to you and your company in a negative manner that
makes your board unhappy. Look at what happened with Bob Chapik,
who got forced out by Bob Iger at Disney over
that don't say gay bill, because he got Disney all
in mesh there. And actually I think he was right
in the way that he handled it compared to Bob Iger.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
But we were at the apex of woke still.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
In that era, and the fact that he was Bob
Japik trying to say, we don't want a feud with
individual states over state bills. He was right, but they
don't want to get attention. And so Trump pointing this out.
I guarantee you there's an immediate reaction inside a Bank
of America where they're like, the CEO is going to
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walk in and he's going to say, we better not
screw this up. I don't want my name in the headlines.
I don't want Bank of America getting called out by Trump.
And it's a message Trump will call out executives in
situations like these and demand. All he's asking for is
fair treatment. Right, don't dbank someone?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I mean, why would any bank think that it is
acceptable to deny services to people who are working with
the federal government? Think about that for us. Second, it's
a little bit like years ago. I remember there was
a there was an uproar among Google employees.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Uh, and remember we think of these places, Oh, but
these people work there, must be so smart.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No, they've all been They've all been stuffed and stacked
with people that can't actually do very much of anything
other than politicking. You know, DEI training. You know, they
look at what happened to Twitter. It became an activist
organization that also happened to have a social media platform.
There's a lot of that at Google and these other
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huge companies as well. I mean, there's you could cut
them down. They're so profitable that it doesn't matter for
their bottom line very much. You could cut them down substantially.
But Google, Uh, remember there are people who were upset
because they were there was Google federal government contracts with
the defense industry. So they're like, well, we we can't
we at Google can't be working with you know, the
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Pentagon or the American defense establishment.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
We can't do that. It's like you guys, you guys
want to say up operations in China. You know you're
you're in America.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You're only able to do what you do because of
the defense industry because you're in America. Like, how about
a little patriotism from these companies? And I just think
that there's a there's a sea change coming with all
of his clay and any any bank that engages in
political discrimination. The DOJ or you know, whatever the department
is that's best suited to handle it should bring the hammer.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Down on them.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yes, yes, and again I just circle back to Trump
is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
And so far, you correct me if I'm wrong, Buck,
I haven't seen any real opposition. I mean the fact
that aocs of the world are obsessed with trying to
make Elon Musk heart tap and and uh and an
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acknowledgment of the crowd into some sort of Nazi salute
is I think a sign of how they can't really coalesce.
They've tried. We should mention this. They've tried to derail
the Pete hegsett Defense Secretary nomination. Ratcliffe has cleared basically
in the CIA, the final vote is going to happen
on that he got over seventy votes, and they're expecting
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the Hegseth vote to come this afternoon. Not sure exactly
what the final tally will be, but JD. Vance has
prepared to break a tie if necessary. As many as
three Republicans could bail and heg Seth could still get
the nomination. It looks like that attempt to derail him
may fail as soon as this afternoon. So my point
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is what sort of opposition has even emerged in the
first week of Trump moving quickly and breaking a lot
of things that Biden built. I should also mention remember
all the pro life protesters that had been so aggressively
prosecuted by Biden. Trump has now pardoned them all that
news just breaking as well. So many of those people
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who basically had done virtually nothing had gotten multiple months
or years in prison, which was just a draconian punishment.
Trump has in the last twenty minutes or so, news
has broken that Trump has pardoned all of those individuals
as well, and they will soon be released from their
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criminal sentences well give which again is a strong move.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, it gives you a sense of how important abortion
has been to the Democrats that they're willing to create
special federal laws that mean that you can go to
prison if you impede access, if you are blocking a
pathway to an abortion clinic, you can be arrested and
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go to and get prison time for it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And the Biden administration was doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you are sitting in the you know, in the
entryway or the doorway, think of how many times that
happens in other contexts. You're sitting in the jury of
the doorway of an abortion clinic and you're praying Biden's
doj wanted to send you to federal prison.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm very happy to hear.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I knew that that was in the hopper, so to speak,
for something that Trump was looking at doing, but that's fantastic.
There's another extreme and egregious overreach over punishment.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Of people based upon politics.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You start adding this Upclay, what was the priority of
the Biden DJ It really seems like it was to
score as many political points against their perceived political enemies
as possible and not to actually do justice.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I think Mary Garland was the worst attorney general in
any of our lives. And I think Biden and all
of his acolytes politicized the DOJ to a level we've
never seen before. Not to say it hasn't been political before,
because it certainly has, but I think they took it
to a level that is unprecedented in its scope. Whether
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it was the jan six prosecutions which were far in
excess for the vast majority of people who didn't engage
in violent behavior, that that was the focal point in
at fifteen hundred prosecutions occurred as crazy, at least relative
to the standard set during BLM protests. And then you
also combine it, certainly with the lawfair against Trump. Look,
(29:11):
I think Trump came to the January sixth individual side
to a large extent because he came to see it
as connected to the prosecutions that were levied against him
as well. In other words, it wasn't him. He saw
all those as being connected political persecutions, and I think
he was right to see it that way. We'll take
(29:33):
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as we are powering through the Thursday edition of the program.
As we get ready for the weekend coming up. Obviously,
we've been talking about the big football games that are
going on, but Buck, I just I keep looking at
the number of celebrities that are thumbing their nose at
(31:51):
any attempt to cancel them. Did you see so Snoop
Dogg played, Carrie Underwood played, and Nelly played, among others.
At the end the obviously the village people saying whymca
and everything else.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I hadn't realized this.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
But the village people in twenty seventeen sent a cease
and desist letter to Trump to ask him to stop
playing ymca. I thought that was kind of a perfect
approximation of how much the culture has shifted around Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Have you seen this?
Speaker 6 (32:25):
That?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
And now they are showing up and playing his inaugural
address and endorsing him in many ways in the space
of eight years. That kind of gives you a sense
of how much society's culture has changed around Trump. And
I just wanted to mention that because I saw it
yesterday and I saw the cease and desist.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
You know, this is not uncommon.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
A lot of times you have the performer, if their
music has played at a rally, they get upset and
they say, oh, I'm not endorsing that candidate, and they
try and request that their music not be played. They
go on from you can't even play my music too,
We will show up and perform for you at the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It's an enormous shift.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'd also just note that when when artists have tended
to do that in the past, they're just being annoying
because when it comes to venues, the venues licensed the
playing of this music, so they don't have legal recourse.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
They're really just complaining about it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Right, So if you're giving a speech at an arena
and the arena play, they pay a license fee for
the music that they're playing, right, And so when these
artists they stop playing my thing at your at your
arena or whatever, a lot of the time it's well, actually, no,
that's not how it works. It's licensed and they can
play the music at that arena. So U it's just
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them complaining and being babies about it. But I do
think it's amazing that there's been such a shift, and
I honestly I don't even know how I would advise, well,
I would advise democrats to stop being crazy. Yes, I
don't know if they can do that. I don't know
what their pathway is right now. They really just have
to wait and see what Trump does next.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I don't think there's any doubt. By the way, you're
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And by the way, I think that your boys wear
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Are you just gonna joy ride in the wreckage of
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Speaker 2 (36:18):
Next? Is that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Is exactly what I'm gonna do. News broke this morning
officially that CNN had fired six percent of its workforce
as its profits have collapsed. Uh, the business is essentially
on fire, and they are demoting one of the top
critics of Donald Trump on the network. Trump has beaten CNN.
(36:41):
We'll give you that info. We come back. I also
think it's an instructive example of the collapse of legacy
media overall. Coming in next Thanks for hanging with us,
Thursday edition, Playing Buck
Welcome in everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay
Travis en Buck Sexton Show. I'm out here in Las
Vegas for shot show, Clay in home turf of Tennessee,
and we have a lot to dive into with all
of you. Trump speaking of the World Economic Forum, some
interesting news there on economic matters. We will be discussing
(00:24):
that more on the Well. There's a Trump interview with
Sean Hannity last night. He had some very interesting things
to say their exclusive interview. The Democrat media is still
scrambling not just for a message, but for relevance in
an era of Trump dominance that we are in right now.
(00:48):
But the biggest thing that has kicked off, and we
are just seeing so many components of this at once,
is the change in immigration policy that has already hit
hard in a whole bunch of places, whole bunch of
areas of policy. ICE has arrested just shy of five
(01:08):
hundred illegal alien criminals. These are people that have histories
including sexual assault, robbery, drug and weapon offenses.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
They've also had.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
This is all from Trump executive orders and decisions from
the top of the executive branch. ICE has changed their
official terminology to refer to those they arrest from non
citizen I can't believe that was even the policy, while
it was to illegal alien. AOC is freaking out about
all of this, No big surprise there.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We'll get into some of that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
New York Times says how labeling cartels terrorists could hurt
the US economy as a fascinating headline that we will
dissect from the New York Times class how you tweeted
about this. CNN is going to lay off hundreds of
employees post inauguration. Turns out, turning your internetwork into a
stop Trump entity and then Trump winning is not good
(02:06):
for business this time around, at least it seems so far.
But let's let's get into some of this illegal immigration issue.
I mean, there's I understood people are saying stuff Clay
right now, like, well, it's only five hundred of these
criminal legal aliens. They've done these raids to go and
get and I'm quite certain that this is going to
(02:28):
ramp up dramatically that once the machinery gets in place
and as they get going, this is going to be
a ramp up process. Remember Trump has only had his
people in place, They've only been you know, assigned their
desks and and given their their access and everything for
a couple of days now, so it's going to take
(02:48):
some time to get this up and where it needs
to be.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, you know what, Clay, we can jump right to
this because I know you you had mentioned this one.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
There's a an illegal Haitian immigran or an illegal alien.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We got to see the terminology change.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's it's because it gets stuck in your head what
everyone's been saying for so long. A Haitian illegal alien
with seventeen arrests was picked up and this was today
on Fox Bill Malugan reporting, this is what the guy said,
as they're putting them in the back of the car, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Not going back to Haiti.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean no. Biden for Averro, Thank Obama for anything
that he said for.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
The bone, Thank Obama for I mean sorry, thank Biden,
he said Obama too. Thank Biden for everything that he
did for me. As the serial criminal offender is put
in the back of a deportation raids car car.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It could not be better for the Trump team to
have this going megaviral like it is. This guy is
in the back of a car, he says. Biden for
which I guess maybe he and he and Jill are
maybe the last supporters on Biden Island, so to speak.
(04:08):
And he's put in the car again. Seventeen arrests illegally
here from Haiti. The very definition of who should be deported,
shouts out Obama and shouts out Biden and says f
Trump and many of you out there are saying, this
is exactly what we voted for. Take illegal, violent criminals
(04:33):
out of this country and send them back to where
they came from. And so far that is the focal
point of what Trump is doing. And not only that,
buck the numbers, the borders basically shut down. It's amazing
how quickly you can shut down the southern border if
you want to do it. I think I saw the
number five hundred illegal crossings yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Five hundred counters.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, so that means that includes people who are to
surrender to border patrol. That includes people who make a
run for it, you know. Encounter is everybody that border
patrol basically has to interact with at the border who
are not going through a lawful port of entry. So, yeah,
five hundred down from many thousands just last week.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A day he.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Easily ten thousand a day for years under Biden. Buck
basically a ninety five if I math is right, a
ninety five percent decline. And they're now mobilizing Trump to
his credit, A is sending soldiers marines to the border
to be able to even further restrict who's able to
come across the southern border. It's just kind of remarkable, honestly,
(05:41):
even people out there, I think who were not necessarily
committed to Trump Buck. Remember, people said, oh, he'll never
do any of this stuff. He's just he's actually doing
even more and none of it's leaking in advance. And
I think this is a big part of his early success.
Remember how every time anybody at anything in the Trump
(06:01):
white White House one point zero, it was on the
front page of the New York Times, on the front
page of the Washington Post. It was designed to put
up obstacles to his being able to do what he
wanted to do. None of the stuff is leaking until
it actually hits the wire and becomes an official order
or a proclamation. It's a real sign of discipline early on.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now this also goes to the change in sentiment that
has occurred because of Biden. Now we had that guy
yell yelling that Biden forever as he's being detained and
is on his way to being deported. But the American
people have changed their opinion on this, or rather more
and more people are of the opinion that this is necessary,
(06:47):
that Biden's Remember in the first Trump term, it was
build the wall to prevent more illegals from coming in.
The focus was stopping the next thing of illegals. It
really wasn't so so much about taking people who had
already gotten in illegally into porting them. Now, yes, Trump
(07:09):
had said, you know, send them back and stuff, but
the main chant, the main focus immigration policy was we
got to secure the border with the wall. Now the
focus from day one it's that, yes, they're going to
continue building the wall, but it's also a dramatic increase
in these deportations. And this is where CNN they're explaining
to their audience that look, the majorities and all pollings
(07:34):
say that illegals should this has cut six illegals should
be sent back to their country of nationality.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Play it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
There's been a massive shift from when Trump was first
getting into office eight years ago. Right the port all
undocumented immigrants, you go back to twenty fifteen, it was
forty two percent. Go to twenty sixteen, it was thirty
six percent.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Look at where we are now, this was.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Taken at the end of last year. Fifty six percent
is twenty points higher than it was just before Trump
got office the first time. So feelings towards immigration in
this country, feelings towards undocumented immigrants and deporting all of
them have become considerably more hawkish, and I think that
gives Donald Trump much more leverage to go with the
American people and sort of have these hawkish, some might say,
(08:17):
harsh different rhetoric and also issue based sort of going
after immigrants who are here illegally.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Absolutely correct, Yes, and what we see happening right now,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
And I think again it demonstrates just how much Trump
has won the argument in the public arena, even on
something I was reading a lot because I'm fascinated by
what the Supreme Court's ultimately going to do on the
birthrights citizenship case that's going to advance to the Supreme
(08:50):
Court in the months and year to come. Now that
Trump has issued a birthright citizenship executive order, you couldn't
even talk about that fifteen You could barely talk about
the idea of a wall, and now huge majorities of
Americans are in favor of it. Buck, I saw the
trans women in sports issue, the sort of the men
(09:15):
pretending to be women. Sixty five percent of Democrats think
it's wrong. Now think about how eighty percent of the
I think it was seventy nine percent of the overall
American public. But Democrats are now because of the positions
they have staked out, actually advocating as a full party
against things that Democrats even believe. And I can't remember
(09:38):
that happening very often in the history, Buck, of American politics.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Part of the huge shift here is that there are
a lot of people who no longer feel like for
the lord of the rings fans, the eye of sourn
is on them, or big Brother for those who are
or well people, they feel like they're lowed to think
what they would think without the pressure of the mob
(10:06):
pushing them in a certain direction. I think you see
that on certainly the men and women's sports issue. I
think you see it on immigration as well. And you
add to that the numbers eight to ten million is
the official number. Trump says it is more like twenty million.
I mean it's it's just a It's like an entire
large state that has been added under Biden's tenure of illegals.
(10:29):
You know, I imagine if you took I mean, I
don't know how many. Try to think of a state
that has ten million people. You know, New York has
twenty million, give or take. Florida has twenty million, ten million.
What do you think New Jersey probably has something close
to that, right, I mean, I'm trying to think of
a state with ten million. But the point is they've
added so many people illegally into the country that now
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the so called normies, the kind of every day the
people that don't really think that much about politics. Clay,
I think they'd had enough. I think they're fed up
with this. And this is why you're at really a
sixty percent mandate of the American people to get these
deportations going to levels that are going to be impressive
and that are going to cause some friction because the
Democrats are going to freak out.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Prepare if there is any errant deportation, they are going
to cover it at MSNBC and the New York Times
and the Washington Post. I think I could be wrong,
but I think this is what's going to happen with
a fine two comb. They're going to use one failed
anecdotal deportation as evidence of why the entire process is flawed.
(11:37):
And this is the very illustration of dishonest reporting, because
I'm just telling you what's going to happen. They're going
to try to find anecdotal reporting is fine, but the
anecdote should illustrate a larger picture problem, not be the
outlier that doesn't in fact reflect the larger issue. And
(11:58):
what we've seen happen with the way the legacy media
has done in the Trump era is they will find
one thing that isn't representative of the sum total, and
they will try and argue, oh, because of this, we
shouldn't have this policy in place.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Just prepare yourselves.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I want Republicans, particularly Congress, to have spines here and
not immediately turn into turtles and go run and hide
as soon as this story happens, because it's going to happen.
It's an evidence.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The old media game was every illegal who comes into
the country, is you know, building orphanages in his spare
time and founding companies and is you know a navy
seal whatever? Right, I mean, it's just some kind of
superhero has crossed the border. They always act as though
one individual story should somehow dictate the policy. No, the
(12:52):
policy is about numbers and the aggregate. The policy is
about tens of millions of people taking advantage of the
American people. And it's finally, I mean, I hope coming
to an end. Now we're at least getting far less
egregious than it has been. It's going to be a process.
It's going to take years, no matter what. And this
(13:14):
is where I've believed all along, Clay, you know, it's
make or break for Trump and his team that they
do this, and they are doing it so promises made,
promises kept. This is where the Democrats are going to
dig in and try to turn the politics of this
country around. I think this is the biggest fight that
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you know, Ukraine. I don't think it's on some of
these other things the media focus is on. It's going
(13:34):
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I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I
want to read you an email, Buck, because we're having
so much winning, sometimes I feel like we can end
up not noticing what's going on around us. We talked
(15:14):
yesterday about Trump ending DEI in the federal government. This
email just went out from NASA. Dear agency employees, we're
taking steps to close all agency DEI offices and end
all DEI related contracts in accordance with President Trump's executive orders.
(15:35):
These programs divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and
resulted in shameful discrimination. We are aware of efforts by
some in government to disguise these programs by using coded
or imprecise language. If you're aware of a change in
any contract description or personnel position since November fifth to
(15:58):
obscure the connection between con tracked in DEI, report all
facts and circumstances within ten days. There will be no
adverse consequences for timely reporting. However, failure to report within
ten days may result in adverse consequences.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Fuck, this is just a sea change. Again, that's NASA, where.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You would say, hey, I don't care about anything but
getting people safely to space. Sending that email is indicative
of the major culture shift where suddenly everybody's recognizing and
acknowledging this whole DEI business was a sham. And if
you think it's not going to translate into larger corporate culture,
(16:41):
I think you're wrong. That's the importance not only from
the government.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, DEI really just became a institutionalizing of affirmative action,
meant to stay within the bureaucracy and to dominate corporate
and government hiring and culture indefinitely. Right, And now what
we're seeing is no, it's actually a choice. You don't
(17:06):
have to do this and it's wrong, so don't do it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
This is.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think for a lot of conservatives, we almost because
this has been going on for a long time.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's the thing we call it DEI.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Now, like I said, it's gender, race and others, you know,
preferential hiring and ideological training and all of this stuff
in our generation particular, Clay has been really heavily subjected
to this stuff. You know, your generation, my Generation X,
Gen X and millennials, whatever. This has been something that
(17:38):
we've had to live with, and we actually don't have
to live with it forever.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It really does feel free.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
If you were born around nineteen eighty, you have been
suffused in this affirmative action DEI culture for your entire life,
and suddenly it's ending.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
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All right, welcome back into Clay and talking long about
the order.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Today.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Will also be talking about what feels like Trump's triump
over the anti Trump media. It's not total annihilation of
Trump's enemies, but it is h it's quite a butt
kicking that they have taken. And CNN among those who
are reeling.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
From the Trump win.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yes, it turns out as a media, as a so
called journalistic entity, as a news organization, you shouldn't decide
to turn your entire day to day existence into one
big anti Trump commercial, anti any politician commercial, because you're
lying to everybody saying you're a news organization. You're not,
(19:41):
you're activists, you're partisans, you're doing something else. And so
CNN finally, I think having to deal with and own
up to this. We'll get to that in a little
bit and a lot obviously on the board today as
we've been discussing. But something really interesting that goes to
the corporate shift that we have seen where it seems
(20:01):
like it's no longer going to be feasible, it's no
longer going to be acceptable for companies major I'm talking
like the biggest companies.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
To to obviously and clearly.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Discriminate against people's political views. Right, we're all so obsessed
with oh it did not. We are all, but these
corporations have been so obsessed with what are your pronouns?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And you know there's fifty genders and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
But if you're a Republican, we don't want your you know,
we don't want your business, or you can't say that,
or we don't want to deal with you.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's a disgrace. And Trump realizes.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It, and he was out at he's out at the
Davos World Economic Forum summit. He's in Davos in Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Uh, and he.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Called out the CEO of Bank of America to his face,
listen to this.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
By the way, speaking of you, and you've done a
fantastic job. But I hope you start opening your bank
to conservatives, because many conservatives complain that the banks are
not allowing them to do business within the bank, and
that included a place called Bank of America. This conservative,
they don't take conservative business. And I don't know if
the regulators mandated that because of Biden or what, but
(21:11):
you and Jamie and everybody, I hope you're going to
open your banks to conservatives because what you're doing is wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I will say that your friend Johnny was set alone,
told me tell you a low and we look forward to.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
A sponsored the World Cup when it comes, both this
summer for the club and next year.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So thank you for getting that for the United States.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, So just to give everyone a sense of what
Trump is talking about there when he's speaking to the
Bank of America CEO. Bank of America has a history
and this is from Attorney General Mires putting this out
in Virginia has a history of denying services to gun manufacturers,
fossil fuel producers, contractors for US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement
(21:55):
has canceled the accounts of Christian ministry groups just just discriminating,
discriminating against anything that is conservative or or also just
like rule of law.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, and this is a big deal when Trump calls
out companies like this because now he's speaking.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Remotely, virtually via remote he's not actually at Davos.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, they're in Davos, but I do think the bank
CEOs were there. So he's calling them out in the room.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Significant because most leaders of big companies, I'm just gonna
be honest with all of you, are huge cowards and
they live in fear because they make tons of money,
but they live in fear of losing their jobs. And
one way you lose your job is by drawing attention
(22:46):
to you and your company in a negative manner that
makes your board unhappy. Look at what happened with Bob Chapik,
who got forced out by Bob Iger at Disney over
that don't say gay bill, because he got Disney all
in mesh there. And actually I think he was right
in the way that he handled it compared to Bob Iger.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
But we were at the apex of woke still.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
In that era, and the fact that he was Bob
Japik trying to say, we don't want a feud with
individual states over state bills. He was right, but they
don't want to get attention. And so Trump pointing this out.
I guarantee you there's an immediate reaction inside a Bank
of America where they're like, the CEO is going to
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walk in and he's going to say, we better not
screw this up. I don't want my name in the headlines.
I don't want Bank of America getting called out by Trump.
And it's a message Trump will call out executives in
situations like these and demand. All he's asking for is
fair treatment. Right, don't dbank someone?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I mean, why would any bank think that it is
acceptable to deny services to people who are working with
the federal government? Think about that for us. Second, it's
a little bit like years ago. I remember there was
a there was an uproar among Google employees.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Uh, and remember we think of these places, Oh, but
these people work there, must be so smart.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No, they've all been They've all been stuffed and stacked
with people that can't actually do very much of anything
other than politicking. You know, DEI training. You know, they
look at what happened to Twitter. It became an activist
organization that also happened to have a social media platform.
There's a lot of that at Google and these other
(24:32):
huge companies as well. I mean, there's you could cut
them down. They're so profitable that it doesn't matter for
their bottom line very much. You could cut them down substantially.
But Google, Uh, remember there are people who were upset
because they were there was Google federal government contracts with
the defense industry. So they're like, well, we we can't
we at Google can't be working with you know, the
(24:54):
Pentagon or the American defense establishment.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
We can't do that. It's like you guys, you guys
want to say up operations in China. You know you're
you're in America.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You're only able to do what you do because of
the defense industry because you're in America. Like, how about
a little patriotism from these companies? And I just think
that there's a there's a sea change coming with all
of his clay and any any bank that engages in
political discrimination. The DOJ or you know, whatever the department
is that's best suited to handle it should bring the hammer.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Down on them.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yes, yes, and again I just circle back to Trump
is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
And so far, you correct me if I'm wrong, Buck,
I haven't seen any real opposition. I mean the fact
that aocs of the world are obsessed with trying to
make Elon Musk heart tap and and uh and an
(25:49):
acknowledgment of the crowd into some sort of Nazi salute
is I think a sign of how they can't really coalesce.
They've tried. We should mention this. They've tried to derail
the Pete hegsett Defense Secretary nomination. Ratcliffe has cleared basically
in the CIA, the final vote is going to happen
on that he got over seventy votes, and they're expecting
(26:10):
the Hegseth vote to come this afternoon. Not sure exactly
what the final tally will be, but JD. Vance has
prepared to break a tie if necessary. As many as
three Republicans could bail and heg Seth could still get
the nomination. It looks like that attempt to derail him
may fail as soon as this afternoon. So my point
(26:34):
is what sort of opposition has even emerged in the
first week of Trump moving quickly and breaking a lot
of things that Biden built. I should also mention remember
all the pro life protesters that had been so aggressively
prosecuted by Biden. Trump has now pardoned them all that
news just breaking as well. So many of those people
(26:57):
who basically had done virtually nothing had gotten multiple months
or years in prison, which was just a draconian punishment.
Trump has in the last twenty minutes or so, news
has broken that Trump has pardoned all of those individuals
as well, and they will soon be released from their
(27:17):
criminal sentences well give which again is a strong move.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, it gives you a sense of how important abortion
has been to the Democrats that they're willing to create
special federal laws that mean that you can go to
prison if you impede access, if you are blocking a
pathway to an abortion clinic, you can be arrested and
(27:41):
go to and get prison time for it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And the Biden administration was doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you are sitting in the you know, in the
entryway or the doorway, think of how many times that
happens in other contexts. You're sitting in the jury of
the doorway of an abortion clinic and you're praying Biden's
doj wanted to send you to federal prison.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm very happy to hear.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I knew that that was in the hopper, so to speak,
for something that Trump was looking at doing, but that's fantastic.
There's another extreme and egregious overreach over punishment.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Of people based upon politics.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You start adding this Upclay, what was the priority of
the Biden DJ It really seems like it was to
score as many political points against their perceived political enemies
as possible and not to actually do justice.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I think Mary Garland was the worst attorney general in
any of our lives. And I think Biden and all
of his acolytes politicized the DOJ to a level we've
never seen before. Not to say it hasn't been political before,
because it certainly has, but I think they took it
to a level that is unprecedented in its scope. Whether
(28:49):
it was the jan six prosecutions which were far in
excess for the vast majority of people who didn't engage
in violent behavior, that that was the focal point in
at fifteen hundred prosecutions occurred as crazy, at least relative
to the standard set during BLM protests. And then you
also combine it, certainly with the lawfair against Trump. Look,
(29:11):
I think Trump came to the January sixth individual side
to a large extent because he came to see it
as connected to the prosecutions that were levied against him
as well. In other words, it wasn't him. He saw
all those as being connected political persecutions, and I think
he was right to see it that way. We'll take
(29:33):
some of your calls, will continue to react CNN, as
you mentioned off the top, next hour, I want to
have some fun with this firing two hundred people, six
percent of its workforce, as the business is collapsing and
the audience is collapsing as well. And maybe you're out there,
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(31:29):
as we are powering through the Thursday edition of the program.
As we get ready for the weekend coming up. Obviously,
we've been talking about the big football games that are
going on, but Buck, I just I keep looking at
the number of celebrities that are thumbing their nose at
(31:51):
any attempt to cancel them. Did you see so Snoop
Dogg played, Carrie Underwood played, and Nelly played, among others.
At the end the obviously the village people saying whymca
and everything else.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I hadn't realized this.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
But the village people in twenty seventeen sent a cease
and desist letter to Trump to ask him to stop
playing ymca. I thought that was kind of a perfect
approximation of how much the culture has shifted around Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Have you seen this?
Speaker 6 (32:25):
That?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
And now they are showing up and playing his inaugural
address and endorsing him in many ways in the space
of eight years. That kind of gives you a sense
of how much society's culture has changed around Trump. And
I just wanted to mention that because I saw it
yesterday and I saw the cease and desist.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
You know, this is not uncommon.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
A lot of times you have the performer, if their
music has played at a rally, they get upset and
they say, oh, I'm not endorsing that candidate, and they
try and request that their music not be played. They
go on from you can't even play my music too,
We will show up and perform for you at the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It's an enormous shift.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'd also just note that when when artists have tended
to do that in the past, they're just being annoying
because when it comes to venues, the venues licensed the
playing of this music, so they don't have legal recourse.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
They're really just complaining about it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Right, So if you're giving a speech at an arena
and the arena play, they pay a license fee for
the music that they're playing, right, And so when these
artists they stop playing my thing at your at your
arena or whatever, a lot of the time it's well, actually, no,
that's not how it works. It's licensed and they can
play the music at that arena. So U it's just
(33:44):
them complaining and being babies about it. But I do
think it's amazing that there's been such a shift, and
I honestly I don't even know how I would advise, well,
I would advise democrats to stop being crazy. Yes, I
don't know if they can do that. I don't know
what their pathway is right now. They really just have
to wait and see what Trump does next.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I don't think there's any doubt. By the way, you're
in Las Vegas right now for the Shot convention out.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
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Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yes, what time did you land last night in Las Vegas?
Eastern time?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Like almost? I mean I got here almost midnight, I think.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Yeah.
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Speaker 2 (35:47):
I completely agree.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
And by the way, I think that your boys wear
the hoodies. It's fantastic. As I said, I used to
wear I used to wear like a Patagonia fleece all through.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You would get away with that when you had a
dress code at your school, too, right, everybody tries to
push the edge of it to the best of their ability.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, corduroy pants and a Patagonia fleece man.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
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Speaker 1 (36:14):
Are you just gonna joy ride in the wreckage of
CNN's hopes and dreams?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Next? Is that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Is exactly what I'm gonna do. News broke this morning
officially that CNN had fired six percent of its workforce
as its profits have collapsed. Uh, the business is essentially
on fire, and they are demoting one of the top
critics of Donald Trump on the network. Trump has beaten CNN.
(36:41):
We'll give you that info. We come back. I also
think it's an instructive example of the collapse of legacy
media overall. Coming in next Thanks for hanging with us,
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