February 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Trump 2.0 hit the ground running, isn't leaking, and giving the media full transparency. Trump's crazy ideas are a negotiation strategy. Gulf of America. Identity politics were on full display at the Super Bowl, as evidenced by the ads and reaction to Jalen Hurts. Clay claims his flute playing would have been better than Kendrick Lamar.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Third hour of the Klay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
gets going right now. And we've been talking a lot
today about the super Bowl, the aftermath of the super Bowl,
not so much the sports, gamesmanship and all that, but
the politics around it. The first time a president has
ever been to a Super Bowl was President Trump this weekend.
(00:23):
He was peered by the audience when they went to
him during the national anthem, which is certainly, I think
a stirring moment for many of us, and then he
sat down. It was pretty quick. He did an interview
with Fox News' Brett Bahar, and I wanted to go
through some of this with you because one thing about
(00:45):
Trump that's amazing is you have so much transparency about
not just what the government under his leadership in stewardship
is trying to do, but what he thinks. You don't
have to wonder what Trump thinks about anything, because he
is well, maybe some things, but he is very transparent
(01:07):
with where his mind is on a whole range of issues. So,
for example, this is cut eleven. Brettbear talked about the
onslaught of executive orders, which so many of us feel
like is just fantastic and it's exactly the kind of
first month we wanted to see out of this administration.
Here's how Trump responded to this notion. Plows. You know,
(01:30):
it's when the.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
First days of this administration are like a no huddle offense,
you know, plays going down the field one after another.
There's a long list of things you've already got done
in three weeks. Big border policy changes, ice crackdowns on criminals,
taking biological men out of women as in girls' sports,
big energy policy changes. So what's different with you and
(01:53):
your administration? The difference between the forty fifth president and
the forty seventh president.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, with the forty fifth that had tremendous position, but
I didn't know people, and I didn't have the kind
of support that I needed. I put people in office,
some great, some really great ones, but I had some
that I wouldn't have put I would have, you know,
known better if it were a couple of years later,
if I had a little more experience in DC. I
was a New York person, not a DC person, and
(02:19):
I had a lot of opposition. I noticed that I
looked on the stage for the recent inauguration, and I'm
looking as like a who's who of Washington.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, if you look on.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
The stage for the first one, it was just the opposite.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I think that's totally true, Buck. I think that we
told you this, We said Trump two point zero is
going to hit the ground running. Now he's moving even
faster than I thought he was, because he knows who
can do the job and who's going to be loyal.
And you know what I would point out, Buck, where
are the leaks? Remember how every day the New York
Times would have a new scoop and it would be
(02:53):
some inside exec some inside anonymous source saying a lot
of times correctly, Hey, the next Trump's gonna do his
ex or why By and large, there isn't anything leaking
until the government wants that information. The Trump administration wants
that information out. And let me just point this out, Biden,
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in the last two years of his presidency, Buck chose
not to do the interview for the Super Bowl. To me,
that was a sign of just how broken his brain
was that they would choose not to have the opportunity
for him to talk to tens of millions of people
in what is a relatively relatively light ish interview, right,
(03:37):
I mean, it's a Super Bowl interview, I was also
told this. Buck Trump, when he sat down with Brett
Bher was like, let's do an hour. I think all
of it's going to air tonight as a part of
his Fox News Brett Bear Show. But if Trump had
been given a full hour to do an interview during
the Super Bowl broadcast, he would have done a full hour.
(03:58):
He was totally all in on the opportunity to speak
to as many people as possible. And I just think
it's symbolic of the difference between these two guys. They
hid Biden for two years. Trump's like, Hey, how much
longer can we do this interview because I want to
keep communicating my message with the biggest possible audience. And
(04:19):
you know what, Buck, it's resonating that. To me, is
the biggest difference between Trump one point zero and two
point zero is the attacks really haven't stopped on him.
They're still trying to run the same playbook. But the
legacy media doesn't have the power to define him anymore.
And it's like every time they attack him, it bounces
(04:41):
back on them. It's like he's got a force field
that's up to protect him because the American public as
a group trust him far more.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The Democrat corporate media just lied about Trump too many
times to the American people, and that's really at some point,
it's just too much. And they that point. And this
is why when they say things now, I mean, when
any news organization has somebody saying, you know, Trump is
a this is another coup, or he's a fascist, people
(05:11):
who have been paying attention, who are psychologically stable and
have any judgment whatsoever laugh at this. They just say,
this is insane. Okay, this is preposterous. And that's where
we are. That's a new level. Now. There are some
things that Trump is saying that have spiced up the
conversation a bit. He has said, for example, that maybe
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the US should take God take control of Goza in
some capacity. He's weaving. It's policy weaving. He's figuring out
where he's going on it, okay. But also on the
issue of Canada. Now, Clay and I will share our
thoughts on the Canada conversation. But it came up during
the Super Bowl TV interview. This is cut twelve. This
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is what the President said.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know, the Prime Minister said this weekend to a
group of Canadian businessmen he was a private meetings, and
that your wish for Canada to be the fifty first
state is a quote real thing. Is it a real thing?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It is.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think Canada would be much better of being a
fifty first state because we lose two hundred billion dollars
a year with Canada, and I'm not going to let
that happen.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Why are we paying two hundred billion dollars a year
essentially in subsidy to Canada now if they're a fifty
first state, I don't I doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now. It's an interesting idea. I think there's a degree
of trolling here. I do not think Canada is going
to become the fifty first state, Okay, I don't see
that happening. However, by putting it in this context, I
think it allows him to frame the issue of Canada
with tariffs and with the finances and the interdependency of
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our two countries in the conversation in a way they
wouldn't otherwise. Be Like, I don't think it's that easy
to get people talking about or caring about the US
Canada relationship. But you say Canada might be the fifty
first date, and everyone and all of a sudden is
saying huh, what's going on with that? And then when
you want to talk tariffs, you've at least got their attention.
That's my sense of it. But what do you think.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I don't know how much Trump has really moved beyond
the fifty first state idea of it. I think it
ties in with Greenland, with Panama. This is just a
real estate guy and he wants more real estate. No
real estate developer, by and large is ever like, you
know what, I've got all of the real estate. I
would ever like, they always want more. I think it's
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reflective of Trump's expansionist ambitions for the United States in general,
having said that the idea of Canada as one state
is actually awful to me, Like, let's play this out.
Two Democrat senators that are going to be elected. If
Canada had been able to vote in this presidential election,
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Trump may well not have won the presidency itself, right,
Because you're talking about if Canada came in, you would
get what fifty additional electoral votes. I don't know what
the exact number is for California, but it would be
in the neighborhood of California, right. The population of Canada
and California is somewhat similar. I don't know that anybody
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set him down and said, you certainly wouldn't have won
the overall popular vote, and you actually would have lost
the election because Canadians have no great affinity for Donald Trump.
So if we were to bring in Canada, I think
it would have to be in a context where one
part of Canada is allowed in, and then you also
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set it up so that they're a rural conservative portions
of Canada so the overall balance of power doesn't shift enormously.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Let me just tell you this, buck.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
If Canada had two senators right now, do you feel
confident that Mitch McConnell would be the fifty third vote
for Republicans to be able to pass Trump's agenda?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Do you feel comfortable in Lisa Murkowski and Alaska or
Susan Collins. In other words, if Democrats had two more
elect two more Senate seats, the entire Trump agenda would
be out the window and we wouldn't have the House.
So I don't know that Trump has really played this
out long term in essence what it would mean historically.
(09:18):
I think I tend to agree with you that it's
a little bit of trolling and a little bit of manipulation.
Trump has a tendency buck to throw out a crazy idea.
Gaza is one in an effort to discombobulate the ongoing conversation,
because suddenly you're like, we're not gonna do X, and
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then why suddenly looks reasonable. And I think it's a
quite clear negotiation strategy on his behalf.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yes, I mean, I think you can call this a
modern Bailey argument, right where somebody they they kind of
can push out and then they'll retreat to the to
something else that's made reasonable by comparison. That's kind of
one way, one way of describing it. I don't think
Canada is going to become the fifty first state. I
think that the chances of that are, you know, Canada
doesn't want it. They're not voting to become first, and
(10:08):
we're not going to We're not going to invade Canada.
We love our Canadian brothers and sisters very much. They
are kind of America junior and we you know, we
get along very well, so that that's not going to happen.
But I think that he's talking about this because he
wants to reevaluate some of the trade and other relationships
between the two countries. I think he'd like a little
more gratitude in the attitude from Canada, which is a
(10:30):
whole other, a whole other thing. Whether that will happen
or not is up in the air. But on the
issue of Gaza, for example, this is where Trump, I
think has he's something of a savant in the way
that he talks about things, because we're all look at
this to go, oh my gosh, that's crazy. America can't
say Gaza, but hey, is the plan to just let
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it be this, like this rubble pile that Hamas is
in control of, and then over the years we're going
to have kind of in fits and start some golf
money come in and Hamas is gonna enrich themselves and
build you know, the bare minimum they need for human habitation,
and then fight another war against Israel. Because that's a
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horrible plan. You know, if the plan is going to
be to turn this place into like, you know, bea
root in the eighties, which maybe it's it's a lot
worse than that, but you know it's kind of similar.
That's a horrible idea. You know, there's a nine year
civil war. I think in Lebanon at that time, and
it just went on and on and on. So it's interesting,
isn't it, Clay, Because they say what Trump wants is
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a bad idea, But the people that say that also
have no idea other than a horrible idea, which is
to allow it to be what it has been and
has become.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I think really the question for Gaza, and based on
the way they respond every time in Israeli hostage gets released,
I think it's unfortunately the case. We know the answer,
but really the people of Gaza have to decide that
they want to embrace aspiration and better lives for their
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kids and grandkids over killing Jewish people. And right now,
I'm gonna be honest with you, based on everything that
I see from Gaza, it seems like killing Jewish people
matters more than a higher quality of life in Gaza.
I can tell you right now, in Israel, Jewish people
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would be happy to put down their weapons and just
go about living their day to day existence. The minute
they put down their weapons, their country would cease to exist.
If Hamas put down its weapons, there would be peace
in the Middle East. So to me, this is why
these both sides is arguments don't really play out. Is
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the Jewish people, to me want peace and prosperity, and
they want their kids to have better lives than they do.
That's basically what American ideals are. That's how most rational
people behave. It seems to me like the people of
Gaza would rather kill Jews and have awful lives for
their kids and grandkids, as long as that's certainly.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The people running Gaza, Certainly the people that are calling
the shots in charge, have the money, have the weapons. Yeah,
they do want they'd rather have their people killed than.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
A miserated And maybe it's not a representative sample, but
every time I see some Jewish hostage paraded through the
streets of Gaza, it certainly seems like everybody is out
celebrating in the streets. Maybe there's a very quiet number
of people in Gaza who do want there to be
a better life for their kids and grandkids and don't
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particularly care about killing Jews. But it seems like to
me the people of Gaza, with the choices that they make,
are telling you that they would rather live in poverty
and kill Jews than have some form of economic success
and live in peace.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, this is why Trump talking about making it the
new Riviera, or however it is he's raising it. People
shoot that idea down and say that he's insane. Meanwhile,
what they think should be supported some version of the
status quo is actually more insane in a lot of ways,
because we've seen what happens. This has been a twenty
year long project of Gaza is in a miserated, miserable
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hell whole used to wage war against the Jewish people
in Israel. And that's not going to change. And so
what are we supposed to do now? Slowly allow the
Gulf States and the UN or whatever to come in
and rebuild Hamas refugee or you know, rebuild Gaza. Hamas
is going to run a bunch of refugee camps, keep
the Palestinian people in this, you know, deplorable condition, so
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that the moment they get enough rockets and missiles they
can launch another war. I mean, that's that's a worse idea,
is my point. So as much as everybody goes after
Trump and says, how could he have such a say
something so crazy, what has been happening is crazy. And
I think Trump explores and explains that by talking about
things that are outside of the Overton window. No doubt
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Speaker 4 (16:26):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Trump flew
from mar A Lago to New Orleans for the super
Bowl yesterday, and as part of that, Buck, he flew
over the Gulf of America. This is what it sounded
like listen anywhere flying right.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Over it right now.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
So we thought this would be appropriate, even bigger than
the Super Bowl. This is a big thing and almost
everybody now has assented to that.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Or lady and gentlemen, if you can bring it direct,
you're gonna have the right gude of the aircraft. The
Air Force one is currently in Internation bow Waters, the
first time in history flying over the regionally renamed of America.
Leave enjoyed the flight and we are now about to
have watch down to the super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Wow, he just did well, Buck, I just I mean,
what a showman he is to even think to have
the pilot announced that we're flying over the Gulf America.
I mean, it's hard for me to watch a clip
like this without having a big smile just thinking about
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how much of a show.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That all is. I think this name is gonna stick. Yeah.
I remember during the the early days of the Bush
administration of Rock War, Remember there were freedom fries and
just made fun of it right away. I'm like, well,
that's not gonna that's not gonna because was the guy
there was, Jacques Shirak, right, was the French president at
the time, and he wouldn't go along with the Irock
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welcome back in Clay and Buck. I gotta say I
think well, no, the most disappointing part of the Super
Bowl was definitely thattime show. It was really bad. Who
would you pick?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Well it?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Sorry to cut you off, but if I told you
right now you are in charge of the Super Bowl
halftime show, which is typically the most watched part of
the Super Bowl, who would you say should be the
artist that would appeal to the largest possible audience and
do the best possible job. Is there anybody that I've
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got two that I that come to mind for me?
Is there anybody that comes to mind for you?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah? There are safe There are safe choices. I mean,
I think you could have. I think you'd have you
two do it and they would put on a good
show and nobody. You know, some of you're gonna make
fun of me, but producer Mark is with me. You
could have he knows Coldplay. You know, it would be
kind of a thought. Some of these guys have done
it to be fair, okay, right, I see, I don't remember,
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but I'm you know, people of that sort of stature
in the in the music industry. There are some other
names that I would have put in the mix from
the hip hop community, but lately they're they're having some
legal troubles. So I don't I don't think we're gonna
have I you know, I don't think I don't have
to say who, but I think we all know there's
some very big names from the hip hop world that
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are having a tough one legally. That's putting it mildly.
I So I think that those would be. You know,
this is the thing. It's like, what are you gonna
give me? Ones that have I mean have the Foo Fighters.
These are two people, great question, I, as Christopher Walking
says the Food Fighters. Yes, so I would go. I
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would go Taylor Swift, and I understand some of the
She has a huge she has a huge uh a
record list. Everybody knows her songs. I am of the
opinion that she has awful politics.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But if politics is your determining factor for who to
put out there, I would say that, you know, ninety
percent of musicians are out the window. How about secondarily,
Morgan Wallen. Morgan Wallan's been selling out stadiums everywhere. I
think he would kill it. A lot of people know
his songs, and I don't know. Has Dave Matthews band
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ever done the Super Bowl? If you want a completely
inoffensive musical guest that has sold out stadiums historically, there
are three different performers. I also think this rap in
general doesn't translate very well to stadiums. Kendrick Lamar was awful,
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but it is a challenge of rap that it isn't
that easy to watch it in the same way as
a band. As a truly electric singer and someone of
that ilk.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I mean, I would love to see Bob Moses do it,
but not big enough probably, So that was I think
that's the last. I don't even know who Bob Moses is. Dude,
you should throw some Bob Moses on. They're actually Canadian.
They moved to New York and because of Robert Moses,
the famous builder of New York City, they just wanted
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to be very New York so they changed the name
of their band. They named it after Robert Moses was
built like the you know, the highways and the bridges
and all these different things. So yeah, that would be one,
and then the other one. I would love to see
rufus Dusoul do it, But again this is very niche.
This is more along the lines of the stuff that
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I would want to see, and a lot of You're like,
who are those people? So I understand they're not big enough,
But I'll be honest with you, I'd never heard of
Kendrick Lamar song in my life, and I'm actually pretty
familiar as a kid who grew up in the nineties
in New York with with like big hip hop songs,
Like I know all of the famous hip hop artists
from the nineties early two thousands, all their songs. I'm
not saying I celebrate them, but I do know them.
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I'd never heard of Kendrick Lamar song before in my life.
Ever you had, guy did not.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
You didn't know anything about the Drake feud, not like
us lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, no, for me, I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Actually surprised that you could just miss the news angle of.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The Black Keys ever done the Super Bowl? They would
be very good. I would throw the Black Keys in
the mix as band of horses ever done the Super Bowl.
They'd be very good. People would really like them. It'd
be a big, big opportunity. You know, there's all these ideas.
But again, this is like the music of mine and
yours get well, my generation. I can't speak for yours.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
But all right, So what would you say on a
one to ten super We're gonna talk about this commercial
that I thought was the worst? Was there anything that
made you laugh in the commercials? Did you know before
we get to negative, was there anything that you thought
was good?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
No? I mean, look, I was I had a lot
of people over and we were hanging out, and so
I'm not saying that I watched every single but most
of the commercials I saw, I just couldn't believe that
people spend so much money on them. Was eight million
dollars for thirty seconds is what?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yes, plus whatever it costs, that's just how much it
costs a err it, So I mean they're spending fifteen
million dollars probably per ad.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean I thought I thought that the ads that
I saw we were generally very bad. I can't there
was not a memorable ad. I don't know what happened
to advertising agencies. But this is the one. This is
the ad that I did see live and I did remember,
and it is the NFL airing a women's flag, a
pro women's flag football ad. Now we're not going to
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air because if you don't see the video, the audio
is not worth it. But we can describe it, right.
So it's a it's a it's a minority woman football
player who is up against a bunch of white guys
named like Chad and Brand and Chad and Brad, and
they're all white and she, you know, schools all of
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them is better than them at football. And then at
the end they're like, make flag football varsity sport in
all fifty states I'm just like, look, why can't they
do this show women playing flag football looking cool? Aile
they're doing. It's a commercial, I get that. Why you know,
there are a lot of undertones in that commercial I
didn't really like. But the one that's the most bizarre
is no, like, athletic looking guys named Brad and Chad
would actually annihilate these girls running around with the football
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Like this is dumb. Why do we have to be
in the land to make believe?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, and Nike ran an ad that was basically like, oh,
because of sexism, we have like no ability to win.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm so and I think.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
The vast majority of you, both guys and girls, are
over this. I'm over the girl power. Yay era.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
If you're a woman, I want.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
You to be as successful as you possibly can. If
you're a man, I want you to be as successful
as you possibly can, but cheering for you because of
your gender. This also just happened at ESPN this identity politics.
ESPN on social media shared a picture of Jalen Hurts
and said black excellence. It's not black back excellence, it's
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just excellence. Everyone, white, Black, Asian and Hispanic should aspire
to excellence. In all facets of their life. Attributing your
excellence to your race or your gender is I think
a sign first of all of identity politics wokeism. But secondly,
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it makes you seem inferior as if that is rare. Right,
I don't presume that black excellence is rare. I presume
that lots of you who are listening right now and
are black are excellent at your chosen craft. As I
presume and hope that if you are white, Asian and
Hispanic and listening to me right now, you are either
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excellent or aspiring to excellence in your chosen craft. So
when you try to put race or gender alongside of it,
it actually, to me makes you look inferior because it's
trying to celebrate you for doing something that most people
that look like you do not do. But actually that's
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all of athletics. Most of us cannot perform at a
high enough level in football to be in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I wish I could have.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
That's what athletics is, right, It's the ultimate meritocracy. To
then reduce you if your jalen hurts to the color
of your skin when it comes to your achievement, actually
diminishes what you've achieved in my world, and the same
thing Buck when I watch that ad, I think encouraging
girls to play flag football is a really good idea. Personally,
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I've coached flag football. My boys all played flag football
because we didn't want to put them in tackle when
they were young, and they can learn how to run
routes and catch and you're yanking flags instead of trying
to hit them and get them hurt when they're super young.
It teaches footwork, it teaches teamwork, all those things. I
think that many women could benefit from it, just like
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many boys can.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Men can.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
But the idea that you have to sell me on
the idea of girls are going to be better than
this at boys, that's a lie.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's just not true.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
There is no girl or woman that is better in
any sport in the world that I'm aware of than
a man who plays the exact same sport. And it
actually diminishes the female athlete to try to sell me
on the idea that they are better than the men are,
because I look at it and I say, yeah, that's bs.
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They're never going to be better than the men. You
don't have to be better than the men. That's why
men should compete against men, and women should compete against women.
And I just the NFL totally missed the mark to
say nothing of oh minority girl hero slay queen. Oh look,
Chad and Brad are white guys and they suck and
they can't achieve anything. I mean, it's just racist and
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it's actually demeaning to everyone.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah. I thought it was a shockingly tone deaf and
stupid commercial for a the NFL. But then again, it
was a shockingly horrible and stupid halftime show that the
commissioner approved. I saw so on Twitter say that the
commissioner should be fired. I agree. I mean, if you can't,
if you can't be trusted to make sure that the
super Bowl halftime show isn't isn't a travesty, why are
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you making forty million dollars a year as the super
Bowl coming to.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
When you and I are seventy, we're gonna have no
idea whether the super Bowl halftime show is any good
at all, Like, unless you're bringing somebody who's around our
age that we knew as a talented musician. How many
grandpas and grandma's are really plugged in with what sixteen
and eighteen year olds are listening to. I think that's
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that's kind of a question to me. The biggest issue
with the super Bowl halftime show is it should have
a mass appeal, Like Beyonce is fine, Rihanna is fine,
Coldplay was fine. The Dave Matthews Band, if they were
out there would be fine. Everyone watching should at least
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vaguely know two or three of the songs that they play.
Or you're not famous enough to do the super Bowl
halftime show. We shouldn't be doing targeted niche audiences when
one hundred plus million people are watching it and people
are like, upset me.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Taylor Swift should totally.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Play the super Bowl. That is, she plays stadiums all
the time. She's amazingly talented. Do I think she has
awful taste in politics? Yes, but that doesn't mean that
tear Drops on My Guitar or whatever the heck GE's
called isn't a really good song, and that she hasn't
released a lot of really good albums.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And let me also say.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
This, if you had to choose a female artist that
you wanted your little girl to look up to, Taylor
Swift is about as good as it gets. She hasn't
had some major scandals. She hadn't had a baby out
of weblock like in the grand scheme of things as
artists go, She's actually at somewhat decent role model for
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a little girls.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I appreciate your passion on this subject, Clay, but I
do think our audience needs to know. They deserve to know.
Would you if Taylor Swift was playing the Super Bowl
halftime show, accompany her shirtless playing the flute? Yes?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Or no?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
How how you know they do all these Easter eggs?
They had Serena Williams out on the stage dancing with
Kendrick Lamar. How amazing would it be? Morgan Wallen is
a fan. How amazing would it be if Morgan Wallen
was playing and the camera just zoomed by and in
the backdrop you saw me with like an American flag
covered flute, And people are like, wait a minute, did
(31:39):
I just you know the way the cameras zoom by,
You're like, wait, did I just see Clay Travis with
a flute in the middle of the Morgan Morgan Wallen
Super Bowl, like just randomly out there, maybe with a
bandana on, maybe shirtless, maybe in a maybe in a
wife beater Can we still call them wife beaters? Is
that offensive? The tank tops? That would be I think
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hysterical like and and then regardless of who the artist is.
I think that would be a really funny idea. Yes,
I'll give the people what they want. Did you see
the the meme of me playing the flute that I
shared that one of our one of our audience members grabbed,
you guys are hysterical with the flute memes. I would
dominate at a Super Bowl halftime show with the flute.
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I would bring down the proverbial house. Donald Trump wouldn't
have left at halftime if I had been out there
with the flute. I'll just tell you that much right now.
He'd have been like, we're not leaving the seats. Clay
Travis has coming out with this, you get.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No argument, no argument from me, especially if you threw
on a little bow tie with no shirt.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah, like coyote, like a coyote ugly stripper or what
is that one of those thunder down under thundered down.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Under down under in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, totally thunder down under stripper playing the flute. Oh,
that'd be a heck of a phrase. Gotta be careful there,
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Speaker 4 (34:20):
Welcome back in the flute memes deluging the Internet. I mean,
I do love your use of AI basically AI for
purposes of the show. Buck has become different ways to
make fun of me, and you guys are quite talented
with it. Laura Travis reaches out and says that she
wants to give you a shout out.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Buck.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I'm impressed that Buck knows rufus del sol, but she
says it must be a carry influence, giving credit to
your wife.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I'll be honest with you, I have no idea who
Rufus del Soul is. Either Lara's correct, And I actually
took Carrie to a because I knew that she liked
rufus Dusoul. That I took her to a concert while
I was courting her while we were in the dating phase,
or actually we might have been engaged at that point,
I can, but still you're still courting when you're engaged, right,
So yes, I took her a lot of fun, a
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lot of you.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Reacting to the Super Bowl halftime performance. I do think
that most people don't realize this Buck, that is the
most watched part of the game every year. If you
go look at the data, the super Bowl peaks at halftime,
and you can think why that would be, Like people
are like, Okay, I'm going to go home now, they
go to parties, kids got to start getting ready for
bed on the East Coast, and everybody wants to typically
(35:33):
see the halftime show. I am confident that that will
be the halftime show that the most people turned off.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Ever, I just it had a niche appeal in the
first place.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
They put Jay Z in charge of it, and he
picked an artist that most people don't know. My wife
says that our boys liked it. So maybe you're just old.
That certainly is partly the case. But you shouldn't be
trying to appeal to everybody of all ages like they
had Paul McCartney there at the game. Your point, the
Rolling Stones there like one hundred and sixty. Get them
out there and a lot of people would enjoy that performance.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, to me, it was it was a miss. And
I don't know, man that game too how much? How
much professional football do I need to watch? Apparently not
very much. It was all telling you it was It
wasn't very good. It wasn't very good, so uh, probably
better things to do sometimes, But anyway, I'm just throwing
that out there. We're tomorrow, we're gonna dive more into
(36:28):
Oh quick, Claire, are you possibly out tomorrow? Is that great?
I'm in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I'm speaking to the young impressionable minds at the University
of Chicago about the election.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
So we'll see how that goes. You've got the show solo.
I'll be back Wednesday, So tomorrow we will lay it down,
dive into Doge and Trump and the communists and more
so it'll be an excited show. Play's gonna have a
day off and we'll fuck to you then see you
Third hour of the Klay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
gets going right now. And we've been talking a lot
today about the super Bowl, the aftermath of the super Bowl,
not so much the sports, gamesmanship and all that, but
the politics around it. The first time a president has
ever been to a Super Bowl was President Trump this weekend.
(00:23):
He was peered by the audience when they went to
him during the national anthem, which is certainly, I think
a stirring moment for many of us, and then he
sat down. It was pretty quick. He did an interview
with Fox News' Brett Bahar, and I wanted to go
through some of this with you because one thing about
(00:45):
Trump that's amazing is you have so much transparency about
not just what the government under his leadership in stewardship
is trying to do, but what he thinks. You don't
have to wonder what Trump thinks about anything, because he
is well, maybe some things, but he is very transparent
(01:07):
with where his mind is on a whole range of issues. So,
for example, this is cut eleven. Brettbear talked about the
onslaught of executive orders, which so many of us feel
like is just fantastic and it's exactly the kind of
first month we wanted to see out of this administration.
Here's how Trump responded to this notion. Plows. You know,
(01:30):
it's when the.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
First days of this administration are like a no huddle offense,
you know, plays going down the field one after another.
There's a long list of things you've already got done
in three weeks. Big border policy changes, ice crackdowns on criminals,
taking biological men out of women as in girls' sports,
big energy policy changes. So what's different with you and
(01:53):
your administration? The difference between the forty fifth president and
the forty seventh president.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, with the forty fifth that had tremendous position, but
I didn't know people, and I didn't have the kind
of support that I needed. I put people in office,
some great, some really great ones, but I had some
that I wouldn't have put I would have, you know,
known better if it were a couple of years later,
if I had a little more experience in DC. I
was a New York person, not a DC person, and
(02:19):
I had a lot of opposition. I noticed that I
looked on the stage for the recent inauguration, and I'm
looking as like a who's who of Washington.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, if you look on.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
The stage for the first one, it was just the opposite.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I think that's totally true, Buck. I think that we
told you this, We said Trump two point zero is
going to hit the ground running. Now he's moving even
faster than I thought he was, because he knows who
can do the job and who's going to be loyal.
And you know what I would point out, Buck, where
are the leaks? Remember how every day the New York
Times would have a new scoop and it would be
(02:53):
some inside exec some inside anonymous source saying a lot
of times correctly, Hey, the next Trump's gonna do his
ex or why By and large, there isn't anything leaking
until the government wants that information. The Trump administration wants
that information out. And let me just point this out, Biden,
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in the last two years of his presidency, Buck chose
not to do the interview for the Super Bowl. To me,
that was a sign of just how broken his brain
was that they would choose not to have the opportunity
for him to talk to tens of millions of people
in what is a relatively relatively light ish interview, right,
(03:37):
I mean, it's a Super Bowl interview, I was also
told this. Buck Trump, when he sat down with Brett
Bher was like, let's do an hour. I think all
of it's going to air tonight as a part of
his Fox News Brett Bear Show. But if Trump had
been given a full hour to do an interview during
the Super Bowl broadcast, he would have done a full hour.
(03:58):
He was totally all in on the opportunity to speak
to as many people as possible. And I just think
it's symbolic of the difference between these two guys. They
hid Biden for two years. Trump's like, Hey, how much
longer can we do this interview because I want to
keep communicating my message with the biggest possible audience. And
(04:19):
you know what, Buck, it's resonating that. To me, is
the biggest difference between Trump one point zero and two
point zero is the attacks really haven't stopped on him.
They're still trying to run the same playbook. But the
legacy media doesn't have the power to define him anymore.
And it's like every time they attack him, it bounces
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back on them. It's like he's got a force field
that's up to protect him because the American public as
a group trust him far more.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The Democrat corporate media just lied about Trump too many
times to the American people, and that's really at some point,
it's just too much. And they that point. And this
is why when they say things now, I mean, when
any news organization has somebody saying, you know, Trump is
a this is another coup, or he's a fascist, people
(05:11):
who have been paying attention, who are psychologically stable and
have any judgment whatsoever laugh at this. They just say,
this is insane. Okay, this is preposterous. And that's where
we are. That's a new level. Now. There are some
things that Trump is saying that have spiced up the
conversation a bit. He has said, for example, that maybe
(05:32):
the US should take God take control of Goza in
some capacity. He's weaving. It's policy weaving. He's figuring out
where he's going on it, okay. But also on the
issue of Canada. Now, Clay and I will share our
thoughts on the Canada conversation. But it came up during
the Super Bowl TV interview. This is cut twelve. This
(05:53):
is what the President said.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know, the Prime Minister said this weekend to a
group of Canadian businessmen he was a private meetings, and
that your wish for Canada to be the fifty first
state is a quote real thing. Is it a real thing?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It is.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think Canada would be much better of being a
fifty first state because we lose two hundred billion dollars
a year with Canada, and I'm not going to let
that happen.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Why are we paying two hundred billion dollars a year
essentially in subsidy to Canada now if they're a fifty
first state, I don't I doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now. It's an interesting idea. I think there's a degree
of trolling here. I do not think Canada is going
to become the fifty first state, Okay, I don't see
that happening. However, by putting it in this context, I
think it allows him to frame the issue of Canada
with tariffs and with the finances and the interdependency of
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our two countries in the conversation in a way they
wouldn't otherwise. Be Like, I don't think it's that easy
to get people talking about or caring about the US
Canada relationship. But you say Canada might be the fifty
first date, and everyone and all of a sudden is
saying huh, what's going on with that? And then when
you want to talk tariffs, you've at least got their attention.
That's my sense of it. But what do you think.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I don't know how much Trump has really moved beyond
the fifty first state idea of it. I think it
ties in with Greenland, with Panama. This is just a
real estate guy and he wants more real estate. No
real estate developer, by and large is ever like, you
know what, I've got all of the real estate. I
would ever like, they always want more. I think it's
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reflective of Trump's expansionist ambitions for the United States in general,
having said that the idea of Canada as one state
is actually awful to me, Like, let's play this out.
Two Democrat senators that are going to be elected. If
Canada had been able to vote in this presidential election,
(07:53):
Trump may well not have won the presidency itself, right,
Because you're talking about if Canada came in, you would
get what fifty additional electoral votes. I don't know what
the exact number is for California, but it would be
in the neighborhood of California, right. The population of Canada
and California is somewhat similar. I don't know that anybody
(08:14):
set him down and said, you certainly wouldn't have won
the overall popular vote, and you actually would have lost
the election because Canadians have no great affinity for Donald Trump.
So if we were to bring in Canada, I think
it would have to be in a context where one
part of Canada is allowed in, and then you also
(08:34):
set it up so that they're a rural conservative portions
of Canada so the overall balance of power doesn't shift enormously.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Let me just tell you this, buck.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
If Canada had two senators right now, do you feel
confident that Mitch McConnell would be the fifty third vote
for Republicans to be able to pass Trump's agenda?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Do you feel comfortable in Lisa Murkowski and Alaska or
Susan Collins. In other words, if Democrats had two more
elect two more Senate seats, the entire Trump agenda would
be out the window and we wouldn't have the House.
So I don't know that Trump has really played this
out long term in essence what it would mean historically.
(09:18):
I think I tend to agree with you that it's
a little bit of trolling and a little bit of manipulation.
Trump has a tendency buck to throw out a crazy idea.
Gaza is one in an effort to discombobulate the ongoing conversation,
because suddenly you're like, we're not gonna do X, and
(09:38):
then why suddenly looks reasonable. And I think it's a
quite clear negotiation strategy on his behalf.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yes, I mean, I think you can call this a
modern Bailey argument, right where somebody they they kind of
can push out and then they'll retreat to the to
something else that's made reasonable by comparison. That's kind of
one way, one way of describing it. I don't think
Canada is going to become the fifty first state. I
think that the chances of that are, you know, Canada
doesn't want it. They're not voting to become first, and
(10:08):
we're not going to We're not going to invade Canada.
We love our Canadian brothers and sisters very much. They
are kind of America junior and we you know, we
get along very well, so that that's not going to happen.
But I think that he's talking about this because he
wants to reevaluate some of the trade and other relationships
between the two countries. I think he'd like a little
more gratitude in the attitude from Canada, which is a
(10:30):
whole other, a whole other thing. Whether that will happen
or not is up in the air. But on the
issue of Gaza, for example, this is where Trump, I
think has he's something of a savant in the way
that he talks about things, because we're all look at
this to go, oh my gosh, that's crazy. America can't
say Gaza, but hey, is the plan to just let
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it be this, like this rubble pile that Hamas is
in control of, and then over the years we're going
to have kind of in fits and start some golf
money come in and Hamas is gonna enrich themselves and
build you know, the bare minimum they need for human habitation,
and then fight another war against Israel. Because that's a
(11:10):
horrible plan. You know, if the plan is going to
be to turn this place into like, you know, bea
root in the eighties, which maybe it's it's a lot
worse than that, but you know it's kind of similar.
That's a horrible idea. You know, there's a nine year
civil war. I think in Lebanon at that time, and
it just went on and on and on. So it's interesting,
isn't it, Clay, Because they say what Trump wants is
(11:33):
a bad idea, But the people that say that also
have no idea other than a horrible idea, which is
to allow it to be what it has been and
has become.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I think really the question for Gaza, and based on
the way they respond every time in Israeli hostage gets released,
I think it's unfortunately the case. We know the answer,
but really the people of Gaza have to decide that
they want to embrace aspiration and better lives for their
(12:05):
kids and grandkids over killing Jewish people. And right now,
I'm gonna be honest with you, based on everything that
I see from Gaza, it seems like killing Jewish people
matters more than a higher quality of life in Gaza.
I can tell you right now, in Israel, Jewish people
(12:26):
would be happy to put down their weapons and just
go about living their day to day existence. The minute
they put down their weapons, their country would cease to exist.
If Hamas put down its weapons, there would be peace
in the Middle East. So to me, this is why
these both sides is arguments don't really play out. Is
(12:46):
the Jewish people, to me want peace and prosperity, and
they want their kids to have better lives than they do.
That's basically what American ideals are. That's how most rational
people behave. It seems to me like the people of
Gaza would rather kill Jews and have awful lives for
their kids and grandkids, as long as that's certainly.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The people running Gaza, Certainly the people that are calling
the shots in charge, have the money, have the weapons. Yeah,
they do want they'd rather have their people killed than.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
A miserated And maybe it's not a representative sample, but
every time I see some Jewish hostage paraded through the
streets of Gaza, it certainly seems like everybody is out
celebrating in the streets. Maybe there's a very quiet number
of people in Gaza who do want there to be
a better life for their kids and grandkids and don't
(13:37):
particularly care about killing Jews. But it seems like to
me the people of Gaza, with the choices that they make,
are telling you that they would rather live in poverty
and kill Jews than have some form of economic success
and live in peace.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, this is why Trump talking about making it the
new Riviera, or however it is he's raising it. People
shoot that idea down and say that he's insane. Meanwhile,
what they think should be supported some version of the
status quo is actually more insane in a lot of ways,
because we've seen what happens. This has been a twenty
year long project of Gaza is in a miserated, miserable
(14:15):
hell whole used to wage war against the Jewish people
in Israel. And that's not going to change. And so
what are we supposed to do now? Slowly allow the
Gulf States and the UN or whatever to come in
and rebuild Hamas refugee or you know, rebuild Gaza. Hamas
is going to run a bunch of refugee camps, keep
the Palestinian people in this, you know, deplorable condition, so
(14:38):
that the moment they get enough rockets and missiles they
can launch another war. I mean, that's that's a worse idea,
is my point. So as much as everybody goes after
Trump and says, how could he have such a say
something so crazy, what has been happening is crazy. And
I think Trump explores and explains that by talking about
things that are outside of the Overton window. No doubt
(15:01):
we'll take some of your calls. By the way, continue
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Speaker 4 (16:26):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Trump flew
from mar A Lago to New Orleans for the super
Bowl yesterday, and as part of that, Buck, he flew
over the Gulf of America. This is what it sounded
like listen anywhere flying right.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Over it right now.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
So we thought this would be appropriate, even bigger than
the Super Bowl. This is a big thing and almost
everybody now has assented to that.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Or lady and gentlemen, if you can bring it direct,
you're gonna have the right gude of the aircraft. The
Air Force one is currently in Internation bow Waters, the
first time in history flying over the regionally renamed of America.
Leave enjoyed the flight and we are now about to
have watch down to the super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Wow, he just did well, Buck, I just I mean,
what a showman he is to even think to have
the pilot announced that we're flying over the Gulf America.
I mean, it's hard for me to watch a clip
like this without having a big smile just thinking about
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how much of a show.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That all is. I think this name is gonna stick. Yeah.
I remember during the the early days of the Bush
administration of Rock War, Remember there were freedom fries and
just made fun of it right away. I'm like, well,
that's not gonna that's not gonna because was the guy
there was, Jacques Shirak, right, was the French president at
the time, and he wouldn't go along with the Irock
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(18:59):
welcome back in Clay and Buck. I gotta say I
think well, no, the most disappointing part of the Super
Bowl was definitely thattime show. It was really bad. Who
would you pick?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Well it?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Sorry to cut you off, but if I told you
right now you are in charge of the Super Bowl
halftime show, which is typically the most watched part of
the Super Bowl, who would you say should be the
artist that would appeal to the largest possible audience and
do the best possible job. Is there anybody that I've
(19:32):
got two that I that come to mind for me?
Is there anybody that comes to mind for you?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah? There are safe There are safe choices. I mean,
I think you could have. I think you'd have you
two do it and they would put on a good
show and nobody. You know, some of you're gonna make
fun of me, but producer Mark is with me. You
could have he knows Coldplay. You know, it would be
kind of a thought. Some of these guys have done
it to be fair, okay, right, I see, I don't remember,
(19:58):
but I'm you know, people of that sort of stature
in the in the music industry. There are some other
names that I would have put in the mix from
the hip hop community, but lately they're they're having some
legal troubles. So I don't I don't think we're gonna
have I you know, I don't think I don't have
to say who, but I think we all know there's
some very big names from the hip hop world that
(20:19):
are having a tough one legally. That's putting it mildly.
I So I think that those would be. You know,
this is the thing. It's like, what are you gonna
give me? Ones that have I mean have the Foo Fighters.
These are two people, great question, I, as Christopher Walking
says the Food Fighters. Yes, so I would go. I
(20:42):
would go Taylor Swift, and I understand some of the
She has a huge she has a huge uh a
record list. Everybody knows her songs. I am of the
opinion that she has awful politics.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But if politics is your determining factor for who to
put out there, I would say that, you know, ninety
percent of musicians are out the window. How about secondarily,
Morgan Wallen. Morgan Wallan's been selling out stadiums everywhere. I
think he would kill it. A lot of people know
his songs, and I don't know. Has Dave Matthews band
(21:22):
ever done the Super Bowl? If you want a completely
inoffensive musical guest that has sold out stadiums historically, there
are three different performers. I also think this rap in
general doesn't translate very well to stadiums. Kendrick Lamar was awful,
(21:45):
but it is a challenge of rap that it isn't
that easy to watch it in the same way as
a band. As a truly electric singer and someone of
that ilk.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I mean, I would love to see Bob Moses do it,
but not big enough probably, So that was I think
that's the last. I don't even know who Bob Moses is. Dude,
you should throw some Bob Moses on. They're actually Canadian.
They moved to New York and because of Robert Moses,
the famous builder of New York City, they just wanted
(22:20):
to be very New York so they changed the name
of their band. They named it after Robert Moses was
built like the you know, the highways and the bridges
and all these different things. So yeah, that would be one,
and then the other one. I would love to see
rufus Dusoul do it, But again this is very niche.
This is more along the lines of the stuff that
(22:41):
I would want to see, and a lot of You're like,
who are those people? So I understand they're not big enough,
But I'll be honest with you, I'd never heard of
Kendrick Lamar song in my life, and I'm actually pretty
familiar as a kid who grew up in the nineties
in New York with with like big hip hop songs,
Like I know all of the famous hip hop artists
from the nineties early two thousands, all their songs. I'm
not saying I celebrate them, but I do know them.
(23:02):
I'd never heard of Kendrick Lamar song before in my life.
Ever you had, guy did not.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
You didn't know anything about the Drake feud, not like
us lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, no, for me, I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Actually surprised that you could just miss the news angle of.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The Black Keys ever done the Super Bowl? They would
be very good. I would throw the Black Keys in
the mix as band of horses ever done the Super Bowl.
They'd be very good. People would really like them. It'd
be a big, big opportunity. You know, there's all these ideas.
But again, this is like the music of mine and
yours get well, my generation. I can't speak for yours.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
But all right, So what would you say on a
one to ten super We're gonna talk about this commercial
that I thought was the worst? Was there anything that
made you laugh in the commercials? Did you know before
we get to negative, was there anything that you thought
was good?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
No? I mean, look, I was I had a lot
of people over and we were hanging out, and so
I'm not saying that I watched every single but most
of the commercials I saw, I just couldn't believe that
people spend so much money on them. Was eight million
dollars for thirty seconds is what?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yes, plus whatever it costs, that's just how much it
costs a err it, So I mean they're spending fifteen
million dollars probably per ad.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean I thought I thought that the ads that
I saw we were generally very bad. I can't there
was not a memorable ad. I don't know what happened
to advertising agencies. But this is the one. This is
the ad that I did see live and I did remember,
and it is the NFL airing a women's flag, a
pro women's flag football ad. Now we're not going to
(24:31):
air because if you don't see the video, the audio
is not worth it. But we can describe it, right.
So it's a it's a it's a minority woman football
player who is up against a bunch of white guys
named like Chad and Brand and Chad and Brad, and
they're all white and she, you know, schools all of
(24:52):
them is better than them at football. And then at
the end they're like, make flag football varsity sport in
all fifty states I'm just like, look, why can't they
do this show women playing flag football looking cool? Aile
they're doing. It's a commercial, I get that. Why you know,
there are a lot of undertones in that commercial I
didn't really like. But the one that's the most bizarre
is no, like, athletic looking guys named Brad and Chad
would actually annihilate these girls running around with the football
(25:14):
Like this is dumb. Why do we have to be
in the land to make believe?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, and Nike ran an ad that was basically like, oh,
because of sexism, we have like no ability to win.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm so and I think.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
The vast majority of you, both guys and girls, are
over this. I'm over the girl power. Yay era.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
If you're a woman, I want.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
You to be as successful as you possibly can. If
you're a man, I want you to be as successful
as you possibly can, but cheering for you because of
your gender. This also just happened at ESPN this identity politics.
ESPN on social media shared a picture of Jalen Hurts
and said black excellence. It's not black back excellence, it's
(26:01):
just excellence. Everyone, white, Black, Asian and Hispanic should aspire
to excellence. In all facets of their life. Attributing your
excellence to your race or your gender is I think
a sign first of all of identity politics wokeism. But secondly,
(26:21):
it makes you seem inferior as if that is rare. Right,
I don't presume that black excellence is rare. I presume
that lots of you who are listening right now and
are black are excellent at your chosen craft. As I
presume and hope that if you are white, Asian and
Hispanic and listening to me right now, you are either
(26:42):
excellent or aspiring to excellence in your chosen craft. So
when you try to put race or gender alongside of it,
it actually, to me makes you look inferior because it's
trying to celebrate you for doing something that most people
that look like you do not do. But actually that's
(27:04):
all of athletics. Most of us cannot perform at a
high enough level in football to be in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I wish I could have.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
That's what athletics is, right, It's the ultimate meritocracy. To
then reduce you if your jalen hurts to the color
of your skin when it comes to your achievement, actually
diminishes what you've achieved in my world, and the same
thing Buck when I watch that ad, I think encouraging
girls to play flag football is a really good idea. Personally,
(27:36):
I've coached flag football. My boys all played flag football
because we didn't want to put them in tackle when
they were young, and they can learn how to run
routes and catch and you're yanking flags instead of trying
to hit them and get them hurt when they're super young.
It teaches footwork, it teaches teamwork, all those things. I
think that many women could benefit from it, just like
(27:58):
many boys can.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Men can.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
But the idea that you have to sell me on
the idea of girls are going to be better than
this at boys, that's a lie.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's just not true.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
There is no girl or woman that is better in
any sport in the world that I'm aware of than
a man who plays the exact same sport. And it
actually diminishes the female athlete to try to sell me
on the idea that they are better than the men are,
because I look at it and I say, yeah, that's bs.
(28:33):
They're never going to be better than the men. You
don't have to be better than the men. That's why
men should compete against men, and women should compete against women.
And I just the NFL totally missed the mark to
say nothing of oh minority girl hero slay queen. Oh look,
Chad and Brad are white guys and they suck and
they can't achieve anything. I mean, it's just racist and
(28:53):
it's actually demeaning to everyone.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah. I thought it was a shockingly tone deaf and
stupid commercial for a the NFL. But then again, it
was a shockingly horrible and stupid halftime show that the
commissioner approved. I saw so on Twitter say that the
commissioner should be fired. I agree. I mean, if you can't,
if you can't be trusted to make sure that the
super Bowl halftime show isn't isn't a travesty, why are
(29:20):
you making forty million dollars a year as the super
Bowl coming to.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
When you and I are seventy, we're gonna have no
idea whether the super Bowl halftime show is any good
at all, Like, unless you're bringing somebody who's around our
age that we knew as a talented musician. How many
grandpas and grandma's are really plugged in with what sixteen
and eighteen year olds are listening to. I think that's
(29:46):
that's kind of a question to me. The biggest issue
with the super Bowl halftime show is it should have
a mass appeal, Like Beyonce is fine, Rihanna is fine,
Coldplay was fine. The Dave Matthews Band, if they were
out there would be fine. Everyone watching should at least
(30:06):
vaguely know two or three of the songs that they play.
Or you're not famous enough to do the super Bowl
halftime show. We shouldn't be doing targeted niche audiences when
one hundred plus million people are watching it and people
are like, upset me.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Taylor Swift should totally.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Play the super Bowl. That is, she plays stadiums all
the time. She's amazingly talented. Do I think she has
awful taste in politics? Yes, but that doesn't mean that
tear Drops on My Guitar or whatever the heck GE's
called isn't a really good song, and that she hasn't
released a lot of really good albums.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And let me also say.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
This, if you had to choose a female artist that
you wanted your little girl to look up to, Taylor
Swift is about as good as it gets. She hasn't
had some major scandals. She hadn't had a baby out
of weblock like in the grand scheme of things as
artists go, She's actually at somewhat decent role model for
(31:02):
a little girls.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I appreciate your passion on this subject, Clay, but I
do think our audience needs to know. They deserve to know.
Would you if Taylor Swift was playing the Super Bowl
halftime show, accompany her shirtless playing the flute? Yes?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Or no?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
How how you know they do all these Easter eggs?
They had Serena Williams out on the stage dancing with
Kendrick Lamar. How amazing would it be? Morgan Wallen is
a fan. How amazing would it be if Morgan Wallen
was playing and the camera just zoomed by and in
the backdrop you saw me with like an American flag
covered flute, And people are like, wait a minute, did
(31:39):
I just you know the way the cameras zoom by,
You're like, wait, did I just see Clay Travis with
a flute in the middle of the Morgan Morgan Wallen
Super Bowl, like just randomly out there, maybe with a
bandana on, maybe shirtless, maybe in a maybe in a
wife beater Can we still call them wife beaters? Is
that offensive? The tank tops? That would be I think
(32:00):
hysterical like and and then regardless of who the artist is.
I think that would be a really funny idea. Yes,
I'll give the people what they want. Did you see
the the meme of me playing the flute that I
shared that one of our one of our audience members grabbed,
you guys are hysterical with the flute memes. I would
dominate at a Super Bowl halftime show with the flute.
(32:23):
I would bring down the proverbial house. Donald Trump wouldn't
have left at halftime if I had been out there
with the flute. I'll just tell you that much right now.
He'd have been like, we're not leaving the seats. Clay
Travis has coming out with this, you get.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No argument, no argument from me, especially if you threw
on a little bow tie with no shirt.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah, like coyote, like a coyote ugly stripper or what
is that one of those thunder down under thundered down.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Under down under in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, totally thunder down under stripper playing the flute. Oh,
that'd be a heck of a phrase. Gotta be careful there,
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Speaker 4 (34:20):
Welcome back in the flute memes deluging the Internet. I mean,
I do love your use of AI basically AI for
purposes of the show. Buck has become different ways to
make fun of me, and you guys are quite talented
with it. Laura Travis reaches out and says that she
wants to give you a shout out.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Buck.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I'm impressed that Buck knows rufus del sol, but she
says it must be a carry influence, giving credit to
your wife.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I'll be honest with you, I have no idea who
Rufus del Soul is. Either Lara's correct, And I actually
took Carrie to a because I knew that she liked
rufus Dusoul. That I took her to a concert while
I was courting her while we were in the dating phase,
or actually we might have been engaged at that point,
I can, but still you're still courting when you're engaged, right,
So yes, I took her a lot of fun, a
(35:12):
lot of you.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Reacting to the Super Bowl halftime performance. I do think
that most people don't realize this Buck, that is the
most watched part of the game every year. If you
go look at the data, the super Bowl peaks at halftime,
and you can think why that would be, Like people
are like, Okay, I'm going to go home now, they
go to parties, kids got to start getting ready for
bed on the East Coast, and everybody wants to typically
(35:33):
see the halftime show. I am confident that that will
be the halftime show that the most people turned off.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Ever, I just it had a niche appeal in the
first place.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
They put Jay Z in charge of it, and he
picked an artist that most people don't know. My wife
says that our boys liked it. So maybe you're just old.
That certainly is partly the case. But you shouldn't be
trying to appeal to everybody of all ages like they
had Paul McCartney there at the game. Your point, the
Rolling Stones there like one hundred and sixty. Get them
out there and a lot of people would enjoy that performance.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, to me, it was it was a miss. And
I don't know, man that game too how much? How
much professional football do I need to watch? Apparently not
very much. It was all telling you it was It
wasn't very good. It wasn't very good, so uh, probably
better things to do sometimes, But anyway, I'm just throwing
that out there. We're tomorrow, we're gonna dive more into
(36:28):
Oh quick, Claire, are you possibly out tomorrow? Is that great?
I'm in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I'm speaking to the young impressionable minds at the University
of Chicago about the election.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
So we'll see how that goes. You've got the show solo.
I'll be back Wednesday, So tomorrow we will lay it down,
dive into Doge and Trump and the communists and more
so it'll be an excited show. Play's gonna have a
day off and we'll fuck to you then see you
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