February 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Veep JD Vance schools Europe on free speech. Why studying history with an open mind matters. The culture of rot at CBS news. Is Margaret Brennan a moron or does she really think that free speech is to blame for the rise of Nazi Germany? Secretary of State Marco Rubio crushes her argument. Is President's Day really a holiday?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
I hope you all had a fantastic weekend, and as
seems to be the case every day, we come to
you with so many things happening, so many news stories
to tackle, and some very good news of course, continue
to come in from the Trump administration, in this case
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pretending to the continued moves at the border that have
changed the whole paradigm. We are in a new era
of border security thanks to the Trump administration. We shall
discuss that Trump was at the Daytona five hundred. We
got some soundbites from him there. He was talking about well,
(00:44):
he was talking about a lot of things, but we'll
give you some of that. We have more from Doge
Elon Musk and his team diving in finding things. I
think that Elon is for the most part going to
be accurate on the first on the first go round,
meaning when he says something, I think the chances are
probably ninety percent plus, meaning they found something that looks
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bad in the government, in the budgeting and the spending.
I think the chance they're nine out of ten that
it's going to be accurate, and it's a problem. Some
of the stuff that they're finding is just wild. I mean,
paying social Security benefits to millions of people that shouldn't
be getting them, including people who are dead. So they
definitely should not be getting social Security benefits.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm pretty sure of that. We will break down that
for you. Also some.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Indications of where things are going on Russia and Ukraine
for the Ukraine Wars. You know, Trump wants to bring
that to a close. But this was what was really
tearing it up over the weekend, you know, Clay, I
had a mellow weekend here. I was in charge of Ginger.
Carrie was with her family, so as long as everything
was fine with the dog, that was my only responsibility.
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So I had a little time and I was able
to watch the Munich Security Conference speech that jd. Vance gave.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's about twenty twenty plus minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm just saying that entire sentence is one of the nerdiest,
one of the nerdiest intros of all times. I was
super excited to watch the Munich security speech.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
But this is really good. It is really good. It
was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You should honestly, if you have the time, you don't
need to really watch it. You can listen. It's twenty
minutes long. It comes up if you just you know.
We're to do a simple, simple Internet search on it.
It's one of the best speeches I've heard a US
senior official give on foreign policy in many years, many years.
It is an absolute home run of a speech. But
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it goes to the issue of free speech and free
speech as the basis for a free society. Can you
have a free society without free speech? I would say
the answer is no, and Europe is very decidedly against
free speech. We'll dive into that here commentarily, but before
we start making fun of the Germans for not liking
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free speech very much, which is certainly the case on
our own CBS News, not ours, but it's American, so
it's it's kind of our fault, you know. CBS News
Margaret Brennan, who is now She's Clay. She's been giving
us more than the view lately in terms of soundbites
that we have fun with on this show. She is
not doing herself and her brand in her network any favors.
(03:27):
I want you to listen to her with Secretary of
State Rubio, who he just had on telling She's telling
Secretary of State Rubio. In the context of the JD
Van speech about free speech in Europe, she's saying, but
free speech led to the Holocaust.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Play three.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to conduct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it. And you
(04:08):
know that that the censorship disagree with you specifically about
the right.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Now I have to disagree with you. Free speech was
not used to conduct a genocide. The genocide was conducted
by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be
genocidal because they hated Jews, and they hated minorities, and
they hated those that they had a list of people
they hated, but primarily the Jews. There was no free
speech in Nazi Germany. There was none. There was also
no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and
only party that governed that country. So that's not an
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accurate reflection of history.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
This is a big deal. But what was your reaction
to it? First? First, Well, let me starting the positive.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's such a moronic thing to say that I think
it would have been easy to not respond like Rubio
did and just annihilate the premise of the question.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Everyone out there knows this experience where.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Someone says something so crazy that you don't know exactly
how to respond immediately, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Not even wrong, you know, you're like, that's not even wrong.
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, and so the fact that he not only responded
but hammered it out of the park is a credit
to Marco Rubio.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And let me just say this because we're going to
talk about it more.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
JD Vance and Marco Rubio are elite intellects representing the
Trump administration on an international stage right now. And I
think it's been a long time since we have had
truly elite intellex and your point on the JD Vance speech,
Marco Rubio, We've had on this program a lot. These
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guys are not only smart, they're functionally smart. They're able
to explain why things matter, and sometimes smart people.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Don't do that. Well. Okay, so that's point one. Let's
give credit to Marco Rubio.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Point two, Margaret Brennan is and we're gonna play some
sixty minutes clips in a little while CBS News has
lit itself on fire, and Margaret Brennan is supposed to
be the supreme intellect of the CBS News organization. That's
why they give her this show to host, That's why
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they allow her to talk to all these newsmakers. She's
a moron, and I think this is important. You know this, well, Buck,
but we got a hammer.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do you think she's Do you think she's a moron
or do you think that she's just so indoctrinated that
she's incapable of accessing whatever cognition? I mean, you know
she's she's a I don't think she's dumb. I just
think that she's completely brainwashed.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, well, that's interesting to our I mean dumber, brainwashed.
Here's why I think dumb. I mean she speaks in
Arabic like she actually is. She's got some she's got
some skill set, but she has no judgment whatsoever. Okay,
that's a good point. It reminds me. So I'm gonna
go on, dumb, You're gonna go on brainwashed. Here, she's
an ideal, you know, she's an ideologue. She's like a
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cult member of the left. That's what I see.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And but what she's addressing there Clay when she says
free speech leads to genocide. Journalists believe this. Now, this
is a widespread thing. That she's not the only one.
This is why it's so important and so powerful. It's
not just like, oh, Margaret Brennan is out to lunch
on this stuff. The belief is, if you can say
that we don't want to legal aliens in this country,
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it's going to lead to genocide. If you can say
trans people don't exist, it's going to lead to genocide.
That is a mandatory left wing belief. Now, I yes,
and so what I think is important.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
This is why studying history matters, And this is why
studying history with an open mind matters. Long before you
should have a developed political philosophy, we should be teaching
kids what history is. And I know that a lot
of times, I'm a history major. We talk about the
fact that both you and I are history nerds. We
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have a profoundly historically illiterate country, and buck I think
that is in many ways intentional, because if you don't
understand the history of this country and the history of
the world at large, you have the memory of a goldfish,
and you can be convinced of almost anything. The reason
why I say Margaret Brennan is a moron here is
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an intelligent person would not make the argument that Nazi
Germany was able to take the steps that it did
during World War Two, including the Holocaust. Number I've spent
my time at the World War Two Museum just recently
when I was down in New Orleans for the Super Bowl,
and credit to everybody who was Eagles and Chiefs fans
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and had their kids with them. I saw a lot
of people taking their kids the World War Two Museum
trying to educate them about what happened.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
In World War Two.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What you're saying is very important that the left now
is arguing that free speech leads to authority tarianism. The
problem with that argument is it's one hundred percent wrong,
and you have to be historically illiterate to make that argument.
The first thing that authoritarians do is burn books, is
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put people who are dissenters in prison. This is all
of history if you study it at all. So this
is where I say Margaret Brennan is a moron, because
she has to be historically illiterate to not be aware
of what the lessons of history actually are.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well see but this is where the indoctrination component. I
mean the same way that how can any person with
an IQ over fifty think that a man can become
a woman based on just reality and the science. But
yet the entire Democrat party says it, Why how do
we get to this mass illusion? Well, yes, and the
mass delusion in this context, and this is why it's
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so important. It's not that Margaret Brennan said a dumb thing,
although that's true. The bigger issue is she said the
dumb thing, because that is what now Democrats in good
standing with the party are forced to believe. It is
like a It is like a an article of faith
on the left now right, So Clay, this is why
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we can't have free speech about vaccines because it will
lead to mass death. We can't have free speech about
the trans community and you know what's going on there
and is it mental illness or whatever, because it will
lead to mass suicide.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We can't essentially freedom.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
This is one of the oldest arguments in existence, and
the Left has gone completely and they left the Democrats
the same thing. The Democrats have gone completely insane with
this in recent years, which is freedom of thought, freedom
of speech, leads to the worst things in society. And
to your point, they have it exactly backwards, and this
is why they're wrong on so many things in such
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big ways. This is not a small issue. This is
a huge issue there and they're dealing with right now.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And also this is indicative of the culture of rot
at CBS News, And this to me is port or
to point out Margaret Brennan doesn't stand on an island
by herself. If you or I most of the time,
Buck get something wrong, it's mostly our faults.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
By which I mean, you know, we blew it. We didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
We don't have a huge staff of people feeding us
information all day long saying hey, this is what you
need to get out there the way this show happens.
We have a great staff around us, but it's not
like they do television, where you have tons of production
assistants where they would sit down for a long time
preparing for this interview. And the culture of CBS News
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is so broken, Buck that a question like that could
be prepared and no one in that room would raise
their hand and say, wait a minute, guys, are we
really going to argue with the Secretary of State that
the reason why the Holocaust happened is because Germany had
too much free speech during Hitler era.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And the reason this is so important and this all
ties in, like why are we talking about CBS. Margaret Brennan,
Rubio Jade Evans, jd Vance gave an incredible speech. We're
gonna play some clips for you here in a minutes.
You can hear you know, if you wanted to skip,
we'll give you the highlights that'll give you the essence
of it. Europe has abandoned freedom of speech entirely, entirely.
There is no freedom of speech in Europe.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Now they'll say yes, there is accept in and they'll
list all these categories and you'll say those are not.
This isn't uh, you know, calling for someone, you know,
This isn't yelling in an attack dog to go bite someone.
This isn't call inciting violence. This is about things like immigration.
This is about policy matters Europe, the EU overall has
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abandoned free speech, and the Democrat journalists in this country
want that here.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, that's why that's such a.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Huge They want what Germany has, which is excusman, did
you put some me meme online?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
We're going to.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Arrest you Now they actually do that, and I think
this is and they don't see that as the reincarnation
of a kind of benevolent fascism or something. I mean,
that's what's going on right now in Europe, and CBS
News the Democrat.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Party are on board with it. They want it here
for us too.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Sixty minutes covered a raid on a man's house for
a meme.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
We're gonna get, We're gonna get, We're gonna play this
for you. I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Crazy to believe the entire CBS News department needs to
be absolutely wiped clean. Like this is a job that
I would actually like to have, is go in clean
house at CBS News. The resources that they have Buck,
We'll talk about this too, are remarkable, and yet they
now have found themselves arguing in favor of the government
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News has descended to.
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We're gonna play you some of these cuts coming up
in a minute from JD Vance. But I do think
you need to understand where we are right now, and
we were talking about it off air. If you had
told me even a few years ago, Hey, on major
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broadcasts and network news stations, they're going to be coming
on saying you've got to be careful about free speech
because it can lead to the Holocaust. It's not only
a profound sense of historical illiteracy, Buck, it's actually even
scarier than that, because they're arguing the exact opposite of
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what actually happened. And unfortunately we have a lot of
Americans who are not sophisticated enough to understand that they're
being basically.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Live I'm going to be the I'm going to be
the communist translator here for a second. The left believes
that if Germany had had a more active progressive government,
it could have shut down the mean things the Nazis
were saying. To your point, yes, historically ignorant and crazy,
but that's that. This is they think that when people
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can say the mean things, that's without the government steping in.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You and I sit here and say no, the problem
is the government stepping in and saying because the Nazi, yeah,
you couldn't just walk around the billboard being like, you know,
Hitler is a bleeping bleep or something, you're gonna get killed,
actually get killed either way. But they missed that part
that they missed the entire lesson of history, which is
kind of significant. But we are right now the United
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States the strongest bastion for free speech in Western civilization
any ere englan world. But this is the we're the
only one. Actually, Yeah, and Canada you have to use
preferred pronouns. But that was how Jordan Peterson I interviewed him.
No one had ever heard of this guy. He's like, Oh,
I'm gonna come on your radio show, you know. And
I was like, come on my radio show, mister Professor Peterson.
This is like twenty sixteen. And you know that was
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because of the mandatory pronouns. We are the only truly
free society when it comes to speech. And even we
have our problems here, I'm aware of that, but we're
the only one that even tries. All right, we'll talk
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Clay and Buck. So we were talking of what's going
on in h Well on CBS News Margaret Brennan, who
is providing us with great content to respond.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
To on the show, which we appreciate, so thank you
for that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And then we also have the JD Vance speech over
in Europe, which is worth watching or listening to in
its entirety.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But I will start with this.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Here is a I think a very good example of
what we're talking about. This is CUT four across Europe
right now. You can be locked up and we're not
just talking about fines here. They will put you in
prison for saying mean things in person, but also onlines.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Cut four. Play it.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes
not so clear what happened to some of the Cold
Wars winners. I look to Brussels, where EU commissioned commissars
warren citizens that they intend to shut down social media
during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what
they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or to this
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very country where police have carried out raids against citizens
suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of
quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action.
I looked to Sweden, or two weeks ago, the government
convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran burnings that
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resulted in his friends' murder. The judge in his case
chillingly noted Sweden's laws to supposedly protect free expression do
not in fact grant and I'm quoting a free pass
to do or say anything without risking offending the group
that holds that belief.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Clay, this is what you see in Europe a lot
of the time. You know what, these laws are enforced
primarily in order to privilege those who are for open borders,
to privilege those who are coming refugees from the Muslim
world who've come to Europe in huge numbers and the
last several decades. If it offends them, if they are
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offended by what you say, if you offend Islam, for example,
in Europe, you can go to prison. You actually have
to deal with this. And it's not just some of
these countries like Germany and others that maybe you think, well,
we don't have that much in common with them. He
specifically talks, You've got to hear this story. This is JD.
Vance in his speech talking to about somebody who was
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arrested for silent prayer. Silent prayer in the vicinity of
an abortion clinic Play five.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear
friends the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience
rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular,
in the crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
A little over two years ago.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
The British government charged Adam Smith Connor, fifty one year
old physiotherapists and an army of veteran with the heinous
crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and
silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting
with anyone, just silently praying on his own After British
law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he
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was praying for. Adam replied simply, it was on behalf
of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Had aboarded years before. Now, the officers were not moved.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer
zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions
that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters
of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands
of pounds in legal costs.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
To the prosecution.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke,
a one off, crazy example of a badly written law
being enacted against a single person. But no. This last October,
just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing
letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe
access stones, warning them that even private prayer within their
own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the
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government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty
of thought crime, and Britain and across Europe, free speech
I fear is in retreat.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
This is thought crime. They're enforcing it. Truly, that's not
an exaggeration at all. Silent prayer can silent prayer not,
I mean, prayer would be bad enough to get in
trouble for Silent prayer can get you fined or locked
up in the United Kingdom. Why because abortion is sacred
to the left, because abortion is the only religion that matters.
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Let's also play this sixty minutes. Some of you might
be out there saying, boy, that sounds like that, that
sounds like an exaggeration. I think this is where the
Margaret Brennan question of Marco Rubio comes in, because remember
CBS News on Sunday started off with Margaret Brennan saying
the Holocaust was caused by free speech, and it ended
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with the news department in Germany covering in a positive
way the fact that insulting someone online can be a
crime in Germany. Listen to this and tell me this
is not chilling. This is sixty minutes in Germany covering
and discussing thought crimes and insults online and how they
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aren't protected speech.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Listen, is it a crime to insult somebody in public?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (24:34):
Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Yes, define could be even higher if you insult someone
in the internet. Why because in internet it stays there.
If we are talking at face to face, you insult
me and sold you, okay, finish. But if you in
the internet, if I insiled you or a politician, that.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
Sicks around forever. Yeah, the prosecutors explain. German law also
prohibits the spread of malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes.
If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody
else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
In the case of reposting, it as a crime as well,
because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or
just reposted it. That's a same for us.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail
time for repeat offenders.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They also imagine this, this is Germany. Now, okay, they
actually do this to people. They'll send the cops to
your house. Bang bang bang, excuse me, have you been
retweeting the memes?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You're going to prison for the meme retweet? They actually
do this, this is the law. These people are out
of their minds.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And if you have a historical background, what is the
analogy that is easy to draw here to me. If
you want to make get an analogy to German history,
it is the SS showing up at the door and
banging on the door and dragging people out for doing
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things that the government disagrees with. What they are trying
to argue at CBS News is this is a good thing.
That segment that we just aired was CBS News shining
a spotlight in a positive way. Sometimes sixty minutes they
shine a negative spotlight on someone. Right, you guys have
all seen those stories they are choosing to make German
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thought policing appear to be something that should be a
positive thing to Americans and buck they talk about in
that same I couldn't believe that entire segment. They talk
about the fact that they seize people's phones and don't
allow them to have access to their phones, and they're
kind of laughing about it because they share memes that
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the government decides they don't like. And this is what
Biden tried to do with everything they were doing with Facebook.
It's directly Connect's why what we just lived through during COVID.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Just forget about that also for a second, like the
history and the not you know that, Yeah, there's a
lot of historical ignoramus is running around.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
This is insane.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
How can the law to determine today, just today now,
how can the law reasonably determine if something reaches the
level of offense that you might have, you might be
imprisoned for it. I mean, this is completely privileging one
set of or you know, a certain set of beliefs,
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certain sets of people, individuals.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's it's used to.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Shut down people who are we've already seen this. If
you're critical of Islam, if you're critical of mass migration,
if you're critical of transgenders, if you're critical of climate change.
It's all left wing global of stuff, the same stuff
that they are trying to do here to us. And
I think that's a critical point. And we got a
trial run during COVID of this, you and I did
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when I got you know, my a YouTube channel shut.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Down, destroyed, ben.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I was trying to kick people the word out about
how masks don't work and lockdowns are insane.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Shut down. I had hit pieces. You would hit pieces too,
hit pieces run.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
On me by fact checkers. Yes, And the government was
one step away from knock knock knock. How you open
showings of climate change memes. This is what's going on
in the Western world today.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's also why traditional liberal and conservative descriptions often don't
work in the modern era because, and this is important, historically,
it is profoundly illiberal to not allow people to express
their actual opinions. This is not some the entire basis.
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The reason why we have the First Amendment is because
our founders, God bless them, were intelligent enough to understand
that the most profound freedom we must have is freedom
from the state regulating what the individual can say. And
the whole idea of the First Amendment is the marketplace
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of ideas, which is to the extent that I have
any overarching political belief that I will defend for the
rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
We get better results when you and me and every
one of you out there listening feels comfortably arguing in
the public square for exactly what you think, and that
over time the best arguments will win. That is the
entire basis of our foundational republican form of government. What
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is happening around the world in many places that theoretically
embrace Western civilization is and I'm holding it up for
people right there to be able to see. We suddenly
have phones in our pocket, and we have the ability
to disseminate information on a level that has never existed before.
And we are grappling with how to handle that incredible
(30:10):
power that all of us hold to speak out and
be seen in a way that has never existed in
the history of humanity. And what you are seeing is
many people out there do not believe that we should
all have the ability to share our opinions. And I
(30:31):
give credit to JD. Vance and to Marco Rubio for
going to Europe and holding All he did was hold
up a mirror to reflect what they are doing, and
it made them so profoundly uncomfortable that the reverberations of
those speeches have now crossed back to the Atlantic, where
(30:53):
across the Atlantic Ocean, where now the Margaret Brennan's of
the world are outraged by what we had the audio
audacity to say, which is everybody should be able to
argue to the fullest extent of their voice for whatever
they believe in. That's the true principle of liberty itself.
I can't believe that this has become political, because it
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is a foundational principle of the American Democratic Republic. But
this is where we are, and this is the battle
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Speaker 1 (33:21):
Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.
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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and I
hope you guys are having a fantastic start here week.
I know it's President's Day and I know many of
you are out there. Maybe some of you have the
day off. You hear screaming in my background. It is
(33:48):
my kids, Buck, who don't have school today and are
down the stairs playing video games right now. You're nice,
of all, I got to play FIFA against your boys
and we'll see who the real view game champion is.
Second of all, is it really a holiday today, Clay?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I mean, you know what I'm saying, It's a holiday.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
If you want a great deal on a water bed
or something, right, I mean you got the President's Day sale,
but you know, or new lawnmower.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
But like, doesn't everybody work on President's Day? Pretty much?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I have always worked on President's Day. I feel like
if you're not working all the test I've never in
my life been told, oh it's President's Day, don't show
up to the office. Yeas never, I think, I think,
but bankers never work. You know, It's amazing that in
this twenty four to seven day and age we have
(34:35):
that bank hours are still what they are right like
banks like, hey, we're only open nine to five. It
doesn't matter. I know they're closed today. I think the
stock market is closed. But yeah, in general, I feel
like a lot of holidays are kind of shadow holidays,
meaning that a lot of people don't necessarily celebrate this one.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But we are here with all of you.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I bet some people are listening who are driving around
that also have kids or grandkids that they are watching
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Com we come back. I actually watched. We got two
things that I think we're worth hitting on. One positive,
the border is basically shut down. Thought Tom Holman and
Donald Trump and our friend Stephen Miller. They have effectively
shut down the border. The whole story of the border
being wide open is over. That is a positive. Also,
(36:25):
they had the fiftieth anniversary of Saturday Night Live. Used
to be funny, but they brought out Tom Hanks, is
supposed to be the most lovable American actor, and they
ridiculed Trump supporters and said all of us were racist.
We're gonna play that for you and point out that
this is one reason that SNL has collapsed. All that
still coming. We'll take some of your calls to eight
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hundred and two A two two eight eight two. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with US. President's Day Edition,
Clay and Buck Show, Keep hanging with us.
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
I hope you all had a fantastic weekend, and as
seems to be the case every day, we come to
you with so many things happening, so many news stories
to tackle, and some very good news of course, continue
to come in from the Trump administration, in this case
(00:23):
pretending to the continued moves at the border that have
changed the whole paradigm. We are in a new era
of border security thanks to the Trump administration. We shall
discuss that Trump was at the Daytona five hundred. We
got some soundbites from him there. He was talking about well,
(00:44):
he was talking about a lot of things, but we'll
give you some of that. We have more from Doge
Elon Musk and his team diving in finding things. I
think that Elon is for the most part going to
be accurate on the first on the first go round,
meaning when he says something, I think the chances are
probably ninety percent plus, meaning they found something that looks
(01:07):
bad in the government, in the budgeting and the spending.
I think the chance they're nine out of ten that
it's going to be accurate, and it's a problem. Some
of the stuff that they're finding is just wild. I mean,
paying social Security benefits to millions of people that shouldn't
be getting them, including people who are dead. So they
definitely should not be getting social Security benefits.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm pretty sure of that. We will break down that
for you. Also some.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Indications of where things are going on Russia and Ukraine
for the Ukraine Wars. You know, Trump wants to bring
that to a close. But this was what was really
tearing it up over the weekend, you know, Clay, I
had a mellow weekend here. I was in charge of Ginger.
Carrie was with her family, so as long as everything
was fine with the dog, that was my only responsibility.
(01:57):
So I had a little time and I was able
to watch the Munich Security Conference speech that jd. Vance gave.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's about twenty twenty plus minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm just saying that entire sentence is one of the nerdiest,
one of the nerdiest intros of all times. I was
super excited to watch the Munich security speech.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
But this is really good. It is really good. It
was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You should honestly, if you have the time, you don't
need to really watch it. You can listen. It's twenty
minutes long. It comes up if you just you know.
We're to do a simple, simple Internet search on it.
It's one of the best speeches I've heard a US
senior official give on foreign policy in many years, many years.
It is an absolute home run of a speech. But
(02:44):
it goes to the issue of free speech and free
speech as the basis for a free society. Can you
have a free society without free speech? I would say
the answer is no, and Europe is very decidedly against
free speech. We'll dive into that here commentarily, but before
we start making fun of the Germans for not liking
(03:05):
free speech very much, which is certainly the case on
our own CBS News, not ours, but it's American, so
it's it's kind of our fault, you know. CBS News
Margaret Brennan, who is now She's Clay. She's been giving
us more than the view lately in terms of soundbites
that we have fun with on this show. She is
not doing herself and her brand in her network any favors.
(03:27):
I want you to listen to her with Secretary of
State Rubio, who he just had on telling She's telling
Secretary of State Rubio. In the context of the JD
Van speech about free speech in Europe, she's saying, but
free speech led to the Holocaust.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Play three.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to conduct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it. And you
(04:08):
know that that the censorship disagree with you specifically about
the right.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Now I have to disagree with you. Free speech was
not used to conduct a genocide. The genocide was conducted
by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be
genocidal because they hated Jews, and they hated minorities, and
they hated those that they had a list of people
they hated, but primarily the Jews. There was no free
speech in Nazi Germany. There was none. There was also
no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and
only party that governed that country. So that's not an
(04:34):
accurate reflection of history.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
This is a big deal. But what was your reaction
to it? First? First, Well, let me starting the positive.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's such a moronic thing to say that I think
it would have been easy to not respond like Rubio
did and just annihilate the premise of the question.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Everyone out there knows this experience where.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Someone says something so crazy that you don't know exactly
how to respond immediately, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Not even wrong, you know, you're like, that's not even wrong.
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, and so the fact that he not only responded
but hammered it out of the park is a credit
to Marco Rubio.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And let me just say this because we're going to
talk about it more.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
JD Vance and Marco Rubio are elite intellects representing the
Trump administration on an international stage right now. And I
think it's been a long time since we have had
truly elite intellex and your point on the JD Vance speech,
Marco Rubio, We've had on this program a lot. These
(05:43):
guys are not only smart, they're functionally smart. They're able
to explain why things matter, and sometimes smart people.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Don't do that. Well. Okay, so that's point one. Let's
give credit to Marco Rubio.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Point two, Margaret Brennan is and we're gonna play some
sixty minutes clips in a little while CBS News has
lit itself on fire, and Margaret Brennan is supposed to
be the supreme intellect of the CBS News organization. That's
why they give her this show to host, That's why
(06:18):
they allow her to talk to all these newsmakers. She's
a moron, and I think this is important. You know this, well, Buck,
but we got a hammer.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do you think she's Do you think she's a moron
or do you think that she's just so indoctrinated that
she's incapable of accessing whatever cognition? I mean, you know
she's she's a I don't think she's dumb. I just
think that she's completely brainwashed.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, well, that's interesting to our I mean dumber, brainwashed.
Here's why I think dumb. I mean she speaks in
Arabic like she actually is. She's got some she's got
some skill set, but she has no judgment whatsoever. Okay,
that's a good point. It reminds me. So I'm gonna
go on, dumb, You're gonna go on brainwashed. Here, she's
an ideal, you know, she's an ideologue. She's like a
(07:02):
cult member of the left. That's what I see.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And but what she's addressing there Clay when she says
free speech leads to genocide. Journalists believe this. Now, this
is a widespread thing. That she's not the only one.
This is why it's so important and so powerful. It's
not just like, oh, Margaret Brennan is out to lunch
on this stuff. The belief is, if you can say
that we don't want to legal aliens in this country,
(07:25):
it's going to lead to genocide. If you can say
trans people don't exist, it's going to lead to genocide.
That is a mandatory left wing belief. Now, I yes,
and so what I think is important.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
This is why studying history matters, And this is why
studying history with an open mind matters. Long before you
should have a developed political philosophy, we should be teaching
kids what history is. And I know that a lot
of times, I'm a history major. We talk about the
fact that both you and I are history nerds. We
(07:57):
have a profoundly historically illiterate country, and buck I think
that is in many ways intentional, because if you don't
understand the history of this country and the history of
the world at large, you have the memory of a goldfish,
and you can be convinced of almost anything. The reason
why I say Margaret Brennan is a moron here is
(08:20):
an intelligent person would not make the argument that Nazi
Germany was able to take the steps that it did
during World War Two, including the Holocaust. Number I've spent
my time at the World War Two Museum just recently
when I was down in New Orleans for the Super Bowl,
and credit to everybody who was Eagles and Chiefs fans
(08:42):
and had their kids with them. I saw a lot
of people taking their kids the World War Two Museum
trying to educate them about what happened.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
In World War Two.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What you're saying is very important that the left now
is arguing that free speech leads to authority tarianism. The
problem with that argument is it's one hundred percent wrong,
and you have to be historically illiterate to make that argument.
The first thing that authoritarians do is burn books, is
(09:14):
put people who are dissenters in prison. This is all
of history if you study it at all. So this
is where I say Margaret Brennan is a moron, because
she has to be historically illiterate to not be aware
of what the lessons of history actually are.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well see but this is where the indoctrination component. I
mean the same way that how can any person with
an IQ over fifty think that a man can become
a woman based on just reality and the science. But
yet the entire Democrat party says it, Why how do
we get to this mass illusion? Well, yes, and the
mass delusion in this context, and this is why it's
(09:49):
so important. It's not that Margaret Brennan said a dumb thing,
although that's true. The bigger issue is she said the
dumb thing, because that is what now Democrats in good
standing with the party are forced to believe. It is
like a It is like a an article of faith
on the left now right, So Clay, this is why
(10:11):
we can't have free speech about vaccines because it will
lead to mass death. We can't have free speech about
the trans community and you know what's going on there
and is it mental illness or whatever, because it will
lead to mass suicide.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We can't essentially freedom.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
This is one of the oldest arguments in existence, and
the Left has gone completely and they left the Democrats
the same thing. The Democrats have gone completely insane with
this in recent years, which is freedom of thought, freedom
of speech, leads to the worst things in society. And
to your point, they have it exactly backwards, and this
is why they're wrong on so many things in such
(10:47):
big ways. This is not a small issue. This is
a huge issue there and they're dealing with right now.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And also this is indicative of the culture of rot
at CBS News, And this to me is port or
to point out Margaret Brennan doesn't stand on an island
by herself. If you or I most of the time,
Buck get something wrong, it's mostly our faults.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
By which I mean, you know, we blew it. We didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
We don't have a huge staff of people feeding us
information all day long saying hey, this is what you
need to get out there the way this show happens.
We have a great staff around us, but it's not
like they do television, where you have tons of production
assistants where they would sit down for a long time
preparing for this interview. And the culture of CBS News
(11:37):
is so broken, Buck that a question like that could
be prepared and no one in that room would raise
their hand and say, wait a minute, guys, are we
really going to argue with the Secretary of State that
the reason why the Holocaust happened is because Germany had
too much free speech during Hitler era.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And the reason this is so important and this all
ties in, like why are we talking about CBS. Margaret Brennan,
Rubio Jade Evans, jd Vance gave an incredible speech. We're
gonna play some clips for you here in a minutes.
You can hear you know, if you wanted to skip,
we'll give you the highlights that'll give you the essence
of it. Europe has abandoned freedom of speech entirely, entirely.
There is no freedom of speech in Europe.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Now they'll say yes, there is accept in and they'll
list all these categories and you'll say those are not.
This isn't uh, you know, calling for someone, you know,
This isn't yelling in an attack dog to go bite someone.
This isn't call inciting violence. This is about things like immigration.
This is about policy matters Europe, the EU overall has
(12:40):
abandoned free speech, and the Democrat journalists in this country
want that here.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, that's why that's such a.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Huge They want what Germany has, which is excusman, did
you put some me meme online?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
We're going to.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Arrest you Now they actually do that, and I think
this is and they don't see that as the reincarnation
of a kind of benevolent fascism or something. I mean,
that's what's going on right now in Europe, and CBS
News the Democrat.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Party are on board with it. They want it here
for us too.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Sixty minutes covered a raid on a man's house for
a meme.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
We're gonna get, We're gonna get, We're gonna play this
for you. I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Crazy to believe the entire CBS News department needs to
be absolutely wiped clean. Like this is a job that
I would actually like to have, is go in clean
house at CBS News. The resources that they have Buck,
We'll talk about this too, are remarkable, and yet they
now have found themselves arguing in favor of the government
(13:45):
arresting people for saying things mean online. That's where CBS
News has descended to.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Look.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
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We're gonna play you some of these cuts coming up
in a minute from JD Vance. But I do think
you need to understand where we are right now, and
we were talking about it off air. If you had
told me even a few years ago, Hey, on major
(16:07):
broadcasts and network news stations, they're going to be coming
on saying you've got to be careful about free speech
because it can lead to the Holocaust. It's not only
a profound sense of historical illiteracy, Buck, it's actually even
scarier than that, because they're arguing the exact opposite of
(16:30):
what actually happened. And unfortunately we have a lot of
Americans who are not sophisticated enough to understand that they're
being basically.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Live I'm going to be the I'm going to be
the communist translator here for a second. The left believes
that if Germany had had a more active progressive government,
it could have shut down the mean things the Nazis
were saying. To your point, yes, historically ignorant and crazy,
but that's that. This is they think that when people
(17:02):
can say the mean things, that's without the government steping in.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You and I sit here and say no, the problem
is the government stepping in and saying because the Nazi, yeah,
you couldn't just walk around the billboard being like, you know,
Hitler is a bleeping bleep or something, you're gonna get killed,
actually get killed either way. But they missed that part
that they missed the entire lesson of history, which is
kind of significant. But we are right now the United
(17:29):
States the strongest bastion for free speech in Western civilization
any ere englan world. But this is the we're the
only one. Actually, Yeah, and Canada you have to use
preferred pronouns. But that was how Jordan Peterson I interviewed him.
No one had ever heard of this guy. He's like, Oh,
I'm gonna come on your radio show, you know. And
I was like, come on my radio show, mister Professor Peterson.
This is like twenty sixteen. And you know that was
(17:52):
because of the mandatory pronouns. We are the only truly
free society when it comes to speech. And even we
have our problems here, I'm aware of that, but we're
the only one that even tries. All right, we'll talk
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on in h Well on CBS News Margaret Brennan, who
is providing us with great content to respond.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
To on the show, which we appreciate, so thank you
for that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And then we also have the JD Vance speech over
in Europe, which is worth watching or listening to in
its entirety.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But I will start with this.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Here is a I think a very good example of
what we're talking about. This is CUT four across Europe
right now. You can be locked up and we're not
just talking about fines here. They will put you in
prison for saying mean things in person, but also onlines.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Cut four. Play it.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes
not so clear what happened to some of the Cold
Wars winners. I look to Brussels, where EU commissioned commissars
warren citizens that they intend to shut down social media
during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what
they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or to this
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very country where police have carried out raids against citizens
suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of
quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action.
I looked to Sweden, or two weeks ago, the government
convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran burnings that
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resulted in his friends' murder. The judge in his case
chillingly noted Sweden's laws to supposedly protect free expression do
not in fact grant and I'm quoting a free pass
to do or say anything without risking offending the group
that holds that belief.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Clay, this is what you see in Europe a lot
of the time. You know what, these laws are enforced
primarily in order to privilege those who are for open borders,
to privilege those who are coming refugees from the Muslim
world who've come to Europe in huge numbers and the
last several decades. If it offends them, if they are
(21:11):
offended by what you say, if you offend Islam, for example,
in Europe, you can go to prison. You actually have
to deal with this. And it's not just some of
these countries like Germany and others that maybe you think, well,
we don't have that much in common with them. He
specifically talks, You've got to hear this story. This is JD.
Vance in his speech talking to about somebody who was
(21:33):
arrested for silent prayer. Silent prayer in the vicinity of
an abortion clinic Play five.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear
friends the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience
rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular,
in the crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
A little over two years ago.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
The British government charged Adam Smith Connor, fifty one year
old physiotherapists and an army of veteran with the heinous
crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and
silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting
with anyone, just silently praying on his own After British
law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he
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was praying for. Adam replied simply, it was on behalf
of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Had aboarded years before. Now, the officers were not moved.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer
zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions
that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters
of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands
of pounds in legal costs.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
To the prosecution.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke,
a one off, crazy example of a badly written law
being enacted against a single person. But no. This last October,
just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing
letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe
access stones, warning them that even private prayer within their
own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the
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government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty
of thought crime, and Britain and across Europe, free speech
I fear is in retreat.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
This is thought crime. They're enforcing it. Truly, that's not
an exaggeration at all. Silent prayer can silent prayer not,
I mean, prayer would be bad enough to get in
trouble for Silent prayer can get you fined or locked
up in the United Kingdom. Why because abortion is sacred
to the left, because abortion is the only religion that matters.
(23:42):
Let's also play this sixty minutes. Some of you might
be out there saying, boy, that sounds like that, that
sounds like an exaggeration. I think this is where the
Margaret Brennan question of Marco Rubio comes in, because remember
CBS News on Sunday started off with Margaret Brennan saying
the Holocaust was caused by free speech, and it ended
(24:05):
with the news department in Germany covering in a positive
way the fact that insulting someone online can be a
crime in Germany. Listen to this and tell me this
is not chilling. This is sixty minutes in Germany covering
and discussing thought crimes and insults online and how they
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aren't protected speech.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Listen, is it a crime to insult somebody in public?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (24:34):
Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Yes, define could be even higher if you insult someone
in the internet. Why because in internet it stays there.
If we are talking at face to face, you insult
me and sold you, okay, finish. But if you in
the internet, if I insiled you or a politician, that.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
Sicks around forever. Yeah, the prosecutors explain. German law also
prohibits the spread of malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes.
If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody
else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
In the case of reposting, it as a crime as well,
because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or
just reposted it. That's a same for us.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail
time for repeat offenders.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They also imagine this, this is Germany. Now, okay, they
actually do this to people. They'll send the cops to
your house. Bang bang bang, excuse me, have you been
retweeting the memes?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You're going to prison for the meme retweet? They actually
do this, this is the law. These people are out
of their minds.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And if you have a historical background, what is the
analogy that is easy to draw here to me. If
you want to make get an analogy to German history,
it is the SS showing up at the door and
banging on the door and dragging people out for doing
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things that the government disagrees with. What they are trying
to argue at CBS News is this is a good thing.
That segment that we just aired was CBS News shining
a spotlight in a positive way. Sometimes sixty minutes they
shine a negative spotlight on someone. Right, you guys have
all seen those stories they are choosing to make German
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thought policing appear to be something that should be a
positive thing to Americans and buck they talk about in
that same I couldn't believe that entire segment. They talk
about the fact that they seize people's phones and don't
allow them to have access to their phones, and they're
kind of laughing about it because they share memes that
(26:59):
the government decides they don't like. And this is what
Biden tried to do with everything they were doing with Facebook.
It's directly Connect's why what we just lived through during COVID.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Just forget about that also for a second, like the
history and the not you know that, Yeah, there's a
lot of historical ignoramus is running around.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
This is insane.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
How can the law to determine today, just today now,
how can the law reasonably determine if something reaches the
level of offense that you might have, you might be
imprisoned for it. I mean, this is completely privileging one
set of or you know, a certain set of beliefs,
(27:39):
certain sets of people, individuals.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's it's used to.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Shut down people who are we've already seen this. If
you're critical of Islam, if you're critical of mass migration,
if you're critical of transgenders, if you're critical of climate change.
It's all left wing global of stuff, the same stuff
that they are trying to do here to us. And
I think that's a critical point. And we got a
trial run during COVID of this, you and I did
(28:04):
when I got you know, my a YouTube channel shut.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Down, destroyed, ben.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I was trying to kick people the word out about
how masks don't work and lockdowns are insane.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Shut down. I had hit pieces. You would hit pieces too,
hit pieces run.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
On me by fact checkers. Yes, And the government was
one step away from knock knock knock. How you open
showings of climate change memes. This is what's going on
in the Western world today.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's also why traditional liberal and conservative descriptions often don't
work in the modern era because, and this is important, historically,
it is profoundly illiberal to not allow people to express
their actual opinions. This is not some the entire basis.
(28:52):
The reason why we have the First Amendment is because
our founders, God bless them, were intelligent enough to understand
that the most profound freedom we must have is freedom
from the state regulating what the individual can say. And
the whole idea of the First Amendment is the marketplace
(29:15):
of ideas, which is to the extent that I have
any overarching political belief that I will defend for the
rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
We get better results when you and me and every
one of you out there listening feels comfortably arguing in
the public square for exactly what you think, and that
over time the best arguments will win. That is the
entire basis of our foundational republican form of government. What
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is happening around the world in many places that theoretically
embrace Western civilization is and I'm holding it up for
people right there to be able to see. We suddenly
have phones in our pocket, and we have the ability
to disseminate information on a level that has never existed before.
And we are grappling with how to handle that incredible
(30:10):
power that all of us hold to speak out and
be seen in a way that has never existed in
the history of humanity. And what you are seeing is
many people out there do not believe that we should
all have the ability to share our opinions. And I
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give credit to JD. Vance and to Marco Rubio for
going to Europe and holding All he did was hold
up a mirror to reflect what they are doing, and
it made them so profoundly uncomfortable that the reverberations of
those speeches have now crossed back to the Atlantic, where
(30:53):
across the Atlantic Ocean, where now the Margaret Brennan's of
the world are outraged by what we had the audio
audacity to say, which is everybody should be able to
argue to the fullest extent of their voice for whatever
they believe in. That's the true principle of liberty itself.
I can't believe that this has become political, because it
(31:15):
is a foundational principle of the American Democratic Republic. But
this is where we are, and this is the battle
that we must win in order for I believe society
to fully flourish and for freedom to ring around the world.
Family reunions often have a highlight reel memories that you
preserved on old media somewhere in the house. Now's the
(31:38):
time of year. We're through Christmas, we're through New Years,
we're through Thanksgiving, where everybody kind of gets a breath
and you can go back and you can start looking
at all those old memories. I know we're doing this
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process of starting to pack up. We're moving into a
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Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.
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get your podcasts. Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and I
hope you guys are having a fantastic start here week.
I know it's President's Day and I know many of
you are out there. Maybe some of you have the
day off. You hear screaming in my background. It is
(33:48):
my kids, Buck, who don't have school today and are
down the stairs playing video games right now. You're nice,
of all, I got to play FIFA against your boys
and we'll see who the real view game champion is.
Second of all, is it really a holiday today, Clay?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I mean, you know what I'm saying, It's a holiday.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
If you want a great deal on a water bed
or something, right, I mean you got the President's Day sale,
but you know, or new lawnmower.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
But like, doesn't everybody work on President's Day? Pretty much?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I have always worked on President's Day. I feel like
if you're not working all the test I've never in
my life been told, oh it's President's Day, don't show
up to the office. Yeas never, I think, I think,
but bankers never work. You know, It's amazing that in
this twenty four to seven day and age we have
(34:35):
that bank hours are still what they are right like
banks like, hey, we're only open nine to five. It
doesn't matter. I know they're closed today. I think the
stock market is closed. But yeah, in general, I feel
like a lot of holidays are kind of shadow holidays,
meaning that a lot of people don't necessarily celebrate this one.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But we are here with all of you.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I bet some people are listening who are driving around
that also have kids or grandkids that they are watching
today because they are out of school. And I spent
the weekend working quite a bit, like I said, helping
to pack up some of the stuff that we've got
in the house. We're not moving for months. But in
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Com we come back. I actually watched. We got two
things that I think we're worth hitting on. One positive,
the border is basically shut down. Thought Tom Holman and
Donald Trump and our friend Stephen Miller. They have effectively
shut down the border. The whole story of the border
being wide open is over. That is a positive. Also,
(36:25):
they had the fiftieth anniversary of Saturday Night Live. Used
to be funny, but they brought out Tom Hanks, is
supposed to be the most lovable American actor, and they
ridiculed Trump supporters and said all of us were racist.
We're gonna play that for you and point out that
this is one reason that SNL has collapsed. All that
still coming. We'll take some of your calls to eight
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hundred and two A two two eight eight two. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with US. President's Day Edition,
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