February 18, 2025 • 36 mins
German police raid a citizen over an online meme. Why culture and assimilation matter. Our friends at The View say DOGE should cut funding to SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA. Social Security going to dead people? The federal civil service mindset is almost like a cult - Buck's been inside the beast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I know probably
a lot of you had a long weekend. We were
here yesterday on President's Day. If you missed it, you
can go grab the podcast as always make sure you
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(00:27):
be a part of the podcast network, and also you
can enjoy Iheart's actual news that does not have a
crazy slant inside of the iHeartRadio app. But unfortunately, Buck,
there are still a lot of crazy slants that are
coming out of the legacy media. And we talked about
(00:49):
this yesterday, but I want to continue to hammer it
because I'm still in disbelief in many ways that this
is where we are. That on CBS News could say, hey,
the reason the Holocaust happened was because of free speech,
and then later in the day they could go have
(01:11):
a story up on sixty Minutes from Germany where they
praise the raid of a German citizen who had shared
a meme that the government authorities decided they did not
like and I understand some of you are not active
on social media for people who don't know. A meme,
(01:35):
which is basically how my boys communicate. The younger you are,
the more typically you are into memes is often just
a humorous take on something in the world of current events,
a picture, an image, a quick video.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's a joke.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And now they have decided that if jokes are considered
to be offensive or insulting in Germany, that the government
should conduct a raid and you can be arrested for
a joke, a meme, a offensive commentary that you may
have posted online.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And so and so.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Let's actually listen, because we didn't play this cut yesterday.
Let's actually listen to what it sounds like live on
sixty minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
This aired in America.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They are out there arguing that, hey, we need to
have the German police joined on this raid.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's six' oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we
were with state police as they raided this apartment in
northwest Germany, just to put it inside. Inside, six armed
officers searched to suspects home, then seized his laptop and
cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used
(03:03):
to commit a crime, the crime posting a racist cartoon online.
At the exact same time, across Germany supposed to be
the world, more than fifty similar raids played out, part
of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb
online hate speech in Germany.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Buck, I can't believe this is real, and I think
it's important for you all to understand, because this is
what the left would do in this country if they
could a pre dawn raid.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Of an apartment of a German.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Citizen because somebody in the government decided that they had
shared a racist meme.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
One of fifty.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Simultaneous raids, six with a camera crew in tow, six
different government agents going into an apartment and see using
a laptop and a phone. This is this is this
is crazy, Buck.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
This is true across Europe, and it is also a
mentality that is shared by the Canadian government. And it
is also a mentality that democrats in this country wish
they had the power to enforce. And during COVID they
did for a while. During COVID they got they got
really close to this. I mean when they were shutting
down bars and arresting bar owners because they weren't enforcing
(04:28):
masking policy enough. Like morons, you know, meaning you're a
moron if you think that a mask policy in a
bar had anything to do with stopping COVID. This is
the kind of stuff that ends up happening in a
society that has abandoned first principles. There are a few
things that are going on here that are really important. One, Clay,
this is always wait, actually I would step back for
(04:50):
a second for journalists to go along on this, yeah,
and cover it objective, you know, objectively, just meaning, hey,
this is what's going on. This should be like peta
going to a dog fighting ring, Like this should be
the most heinous thing. If you're actually a journalist and
somebody who makes a living in the exchange of ideas
(05:11):
and information as an American, you're supposed to think the
First Amendment is sacred.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
For journalists to go.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And be like, oh wow, look at this, look at
the Stasi like crackdown because of memes, it just shows
you what a fraud I mean this is journalists are
frauds in this country. So we know the whole thing,
and honestly, it's not about oh, there are some good
ones and bad ones. Everyone has opinions, everyone's pushing agendas.
They either tell you the truth about what they think
or they're just lying to you, and CBS is just
continuing to lie to you.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
This is also why culture matters. And I keep hammering
on this, and I know I'm getting to be an
old man because as I age, I am seeing it
more and more and certainly running a business. No One
at CBS buck, and this is what you're hitting at
at No one at CBS News said wait a moment.
(05:59):
Our entire industry is predicated on the idea that we
have free speech. No one raised a hand and said, hey,
should we be covering in a positive manner? German authorities
rating in the early morning hours a random person's house
(06:19):
over a joke that they posted on laws.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But this is why they're telling on themselves. They agree
with this. This is the CBS is covering the German
meme raids with envy. The journals in there thinking, if
only we could do this, we could have our DEI back,
and our affirmative action back, and our left wing trans
policies back, and our go down the list. If only
(06:42):
we could suppress speech the way they do in Germany,
we would be a better society. This also leads to
the Margaret Brennan comment about free speech leads to the Holocaust,
which are directly connected.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Of course, it's against all the same mentality.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So what we're showing you in Germany or what we're
talking about happening in Europe right now, UK and other places.
Guy arrested for silent prayer. That's stock crime, straight up
thought crime. There's no other way. It's what were you
thinking when you were standing in that place? Here's what
I was thinking. You're under arrest. This is something that
the that the left has tried to import here. I
(07:15):
think if Donald Trump had lost this election, they would
have kept pushing and gotten even closer to it, because
remember Trump had lost, they would I mean, they would
have been trying to lock Trump up. I mean all
the things we know, all the things that would have happened.
And a big, another big part of this, specifically in
the European context, clay that I think very much translates
into the American context. What are the means? What is
(07:37):
this stuff really about? You know what it's about illegals
coming into their or I shouldn't even say illegals. In
their case, they're legal. Actually they're migrants to the government
has allowed in Muslim migrants, particularly from Afghanistan Syria, a
number of war toward countries coming into their countries, committing
terrorist acts, raping women, sexually assaulting women in packs in
numbers that these European countries haven't ever seen before, Meaning
(08:01):
they're dealing with these spikes in crime. I mean, you
don't have to we have we'll play it later. The
CEO of Palenteers saying, well, I was just gonna say,
yeah it right now. I think let's do it right now.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Here's this, here's Alex Karp of Palenteer. It's about a
minute clip. I really want you to listen to it,
because this is what the meme wars and they're trying
to shut it down in Europe, is actually all about
play it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You lived in Germany for half your life. Yeah, and
there is a big debate going on about the politics
in Germany right now. You're also Jewish and there is
support and you've even seen it over the weekend. Marco
Rubio and Elon Musk and others have been very supportive
of the alt right movement in Germany. While there have
been questions about their association with some supporting Nazis and
(08:47):
other things, I'm curious where you land on that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I don't want to go into the technicolwitch here. But
the real the problem in Germany is that somehow the
small portion of Germans that believe you cannot talk about
migration without being a bigot, which is about probably fifteen
ninety percent of them vote for the Green parties, have
somehow tricked the larger parties into saying they will only
(09:13):
vote for things if the far right doesn't vote with them,
which basically, as a matter of pragmatic power, shifts all
immigration policy to a small group of people that literally
will not let you discuss the fact that Afghani immigrants
to Germany of a seventy x seventy x propensity compared
to German population to commit certain kind of crimes, and
(09:36):
that in the last couple of weeks, every single terror attack,
every single tarror attack, has been the result.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You go to jail for pointing that out. You'll get
into trouble.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's that's what all this is about. By the way,
Europeans are saying, hey, you guys, realize that if we
didn't have the Muslim migrants we've taken in the last
we basically would have no sexual we'd have no rapes
in this country. I mean the number would be almost
no terrorism and no terrorism. Maybe we don't want more
of this. The governments that did this, like Angela Miracle's
(10:09):
government in Germany and these other governments that were very
much global it's very much part of this, you know,
one world government paradigm play. They sold out their countries
to this idea of we don't need borders, we should
bring in everybody from everywhere. And now these countries have
really big problems and that's why the all right, is
that guy that guy that is annoying it? But that's
why they're rising in some of these countries because people
(10:31):
people actually don't want to be mowed down by maniacs
who are asylum seekers or they're being given their life
back apparently because otherwise they can't go home. They don't
want to be mowed down in a Christmas market, and
they don't want women to be gang raped in the
public square on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's okay that they're allowed to not want that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yes, And also cultures aren't all equal like cultures inside.
I think this is my my BA spent time in Afghanis.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Afghanistan is an inferior culture to the United States in
every respect, okay, in every respect, and.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's across companies too. That's why the CBS news culture,
which should be committed to aggressive pursuit of the truth,
is not right. It's a legacy news organization that has
decided that the marketplace of ideas is a threat, which
is actually the antithesis of what news media should be doing.
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The culture has ossified and it has become broken, and
the culture of Germany is better than the culture of
many of the people coming in from foreign countries, and
they're not assimilating buck. They are bringing their culture to
Germany and making Germany a worse version of itself, which
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you're not allowed to say.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And now the low t technocrats in the EU who
have been insisting on these policies, brainwashing the youth on
these you know in Sweden, they won't even that. They're
trying to avoid always taking demographic data for who's committing,
for who's committing the rapes. You're just not the police
and know how to talk about this. They're hiding things
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from the population because the people who are in charge
are the people who said, if you oppose this, you're
a bad person. And now these populations you're seeing it.
By the way, can you see, I mean the parallels
are different. I mean, rather the specifics are different in
this country, but there are parallels with I want no
m S thirteen illegal aliens in this country or trend
to Iragua illegal aliens in this country. I want none,
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and if they're here, they need to go right away.
Democrats say, no, what do you mean? You know this
is America's a nation of immigrants, where nation of illegal,
bloodthirsty gang members. Like really, I mean, we can't get
we can't all agree, even Clay that we should get
rid of them. The answer with Democrats still is no,
they can't agree with us on that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They still have some problem with this.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You're seeing these these low t technocrats, so called technocrats
mostly they're idiots in the EU and in this country,
in the Democrat Party have a big problem on their
hands because too much now has been seen, people have
experienced too much of Oh, just bring in everybody from
the poorest, most dysfunctional, violent cultures you possibly can. And
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this is also what they're trying to do in the
United States. When it comes to our speech, you aren't
allowed to ask questions about where COVID came from. You
weren't allowed and still aren't in many ways allowed to
actually analyze crime in the United States right Who commits crime,
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where is it being committed?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
What can we do to restrict it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
How many people out there will even talk about where
violent comes from? Violent crime comes from the United States.
And the significance here is if we don't honestly address issues,
if we don't allow everyone to honestly address the issues,
then we can't make anything better. When you restrict what
citizens are able to say, you actually end up. I
(14:06):
think this is one hundred billion percent true, with a
worse public policy outcome because you don't get the full
flourishing of debate. But man, I think what JD. Vance
said and what CBS News showed of itself is indicative
of the cultural battle that we are all fighting right now.
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and he's got a book out which I'm sure he'll
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a book, which, you know, I respect the hustle. I
like that, and that there's also so much clay coming
out from DOGE. And my only request is that we
start to have a verified numbers pile versus a still
figuring out pile, because I mean, here's a preview of
(16:16):
what we will be talking about later in the program.
The numbers that they're showing up with, that that DOGE
is finding for what seems to be just clear fraud
or fraud or waste, meaning maybe they're just paying money
into like the bank accounts of people that aren't even
alive anymore, and no one even knows.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Isn't that crazy? Think about that?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I mean, they're just like paying they're paying money into
a black hole, essentially to the tune of millions of people.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The numbers do you take.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's actually going on? Do you think there are millions
of people who are actually dead getting paid to security.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I have a hard time believing it.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
But Elon said, there are three hundred and ninety five
million Social Security numbers in the database right now. Act yeah,
there are three hundred and thirty million American citizens, So.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Some of those probably buck are illegal immigrants that have
fake Social Security accounts, right, so that would go in
the fraud category.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's bad.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
So but you start to look at this and you wonder, Clay,
how is this the age range for According to Social
Security Database, these are the numbers of people in each
age bucket with the death field set to false.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is from Elon's account.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
There are forty five million people that are aged ten
to nineteen with the field set to fall.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like, what is going on? It's like they have no
idea what's happening? Correct? And if there is, If there are.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Even thousands of dead people getting Social Security checks, it's
a huge deal. If there are millions, I mean, how
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You know, Buck, we haven't played a clip of our
(19:05):
good friends at the View for a while, and I
saw this circulating this morning. Our brilliant friend Whoopy Goldberg
has decided that Elon Musk is too involved in sending
spaceships to space and why do we need SpaceX because
(19:27):
we already have NASA.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So I want to play this for you in a moment.
This is her argument, Buck, why.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Do we need SpaceX We already have NASA, Whoopy Goldberg
to her audience.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And it's worth noting.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Late last night, Elon Musk debuted a new Ai Xai,
which is reportedly now the best AI on the market. Now,
I'm not going to tell you that I am able
to analyze in a sophisticated manner comparable ais, but the
(20:07):
polymarket service allows wagers on what is the most powerful AI,
and after Xai debuted, it is now off the charts
odds wise considered to be the best AI on the market.
This is Grock three point zero. And I realized that
I might as well be speaking Arabic to many of
(20:27):
you out there. But the reason why I bring it
up is Elon is better at sending spaceships to space
than NASA. He is better at making electric vehicles than
anyone has ever been in the history of the world.
He is probably better at drilling holes in the Earth
through the Boring Company, and right now Buck he also
(20:52):
is simultaneously sleeping in an office in the Eisenhower Old
Executive Office Building, my understanding, trying to save all of
us hundreds of billions of dollars in fraudulent and wasteful spending.
I'm not sure that we have ever seen anyone of
this magnitude of achievement in any of our lives. And
(21:14):
I'm regardless of what political beliefs Elon had. And remember
he was a darling of the left what five years ago? Buck,
I mean, everybody on the left loved him because he
made electric vehicles and he didn't endorse Trump until July,
so he's a relatively newbie when it comes to supporting Trump.
(21:35):
But Whoopy Goldberg thinks, Hey, this whole SpaceX thing is unnecessary.
Why are we giving them any money from the government.
We have NASA. This was Whoopee going after Elon a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Listen, I want to know.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
When did I say, hey, we need another agency next
to NASA.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So listen, so when did we start.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Panned for s AA.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, No, he you know that he's he's.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Going to be cutting yeah uh NASA. Yeah, yeah, that's
the competition.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So what is the real deal yet?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
None.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
We want to cut some money.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Let's cut some of these follow money. With that follow.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
We have to pay for it.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You are paying for everything he sends up, that comes.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Back down, that falls back down and breaks up.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That's out of our pockets. We'll be right back. Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean she's not she's not smart. Okay, that's that's clear.
She is a comedian to be fair. But yes, right,
I mean, you know, but I mean she has she's
not smart on these issues, has no idea, she's no
idea what she's talking about, absolutely none. And Elon Musk
is trying to do something that everybody should be in
(22:52):
favor of. This is the problem Democrats keep running into.
If in fact, there are billions of dollars going to
dead people on social you know, for social curity payments whatever,
there's all these different things. There's no pro light American
money on fire constituency. But Democrats, because they have to
be anti Trump and therefore anti Elon, keep putting themselves
(23:12):
in this position where they're complaining that they're now saying,
you see this clay they have. I mean, I was
gonna talk about this next hour, talking about it now.
They had the acting head of Social Security Administration has
resigned because she didn't want to give Doge access to
personal information. The President has told this guy, I want
(23:33):
you to have access to executive branch information. And these
people who are running these systems that are clearly in
need of a massive overhaul think they can decide, you
knowilatterally that the presidents will on this issue doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well, what do they think is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
He's the literal richest man in the world. He's not
going to steal your social Security number and sell it
on the dark web. What are these idiots even.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Saying, Clay?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
It makes this whole You know, they have to protect
privacy of these people, Fritt.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
He's even pointed out he ran.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
He was a founder of PayPal, which had everyone's name,
credit card, bank information, whatever. Somebody has access to this stuff.
The we don't trust Elon Musk. We only trust the bureaucrats.
This is the dumbest argument that I've heard in a
long time about anything government related. It's all they have
right now. And it also I think makes anybody paying
(24:26):
attention realize Democrats, for some reason want to protect this stuff.
They actually don't want this stuff. There are a lot
of Democrats that don't want this stuff to stop. I
So let's go to SpaceX for a moment.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
NASA is so incompetent right now, Buck and our team
can confirm that this is still true, that we don't
have the ability to bring our astronauts back from space. Yes,
right now we have two a man and a woman
American astronauts that I believe were supposed to go to
space for like two weeks. This sounds like a worse nightmare.
(25:02):
And now they've been there for like six months, and
we don't have the technology to get them back, and
we're asking Elon Musk and SpaceX to do it instead.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
SpaceX.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
To Whoope's point, SpaceX is better and safer and more
efficient at sending rockets to space than NASA is. They're
actually saving us money and doing it at a fraction
of the cost that the taxpayer would otherwise be paying for.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's even bigger than that in a sense, Clay, because
Elon has started a space economy. There is now a
space economy, because he has commercialized sending satellites into space
for governments that need his help, for private industry, his.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Whole the you know, starlink.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Starlink has for the first time made it feasible that
we could have global wherever you are, as long as
you can see the sky, you could have theoretically high
speed internet access. The scale of that business, and by
the way, what it will do to all these providers
that are still charging way too much money for you know,
crappy crappy service. Don't even get me started. I'm always
(26:16):
worried that it's gonna go out when I'm doing the show.
Clay He's created a space economy where one did not
exist before. He has rockets that can be caught on
re entry by a giant mechanical hand. Basically, I mean,
this is wizardry level stuff, but it comes from brilliance,
industry and competition, and it's right. And what's what's funny
(26:39):
about this is the old argument so always, oh, you
don't want the government to do it, who's gonna build
the roads? Well, now people look at this and they're like,
he's better at space, rocket, at space and rockets than NASA.
So what else could be done that the government actually
does not need to be doing? And I think this
is a broader philosophical challenge to the left right now,
which is what exactly are what exactly is government in
(27:02):
a lot of these cases bringing to the table. There
are very few things that we could all agree on
the government should be doing. There are a lot of
things now that I think people are asking understandably, why.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Is the government even doing that?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I mean, yes, people get upset about the prospect of
doage cutting the Department of Education. Nobody who complains about
this knows what Doe even does.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They don't even know. Look at what about our schools.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
The private education doesn't fund your local public school. You imbeciles, right,
I mean people who are saying this stuff know nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yes, it's true, and that's why I have said. And
Elon actually liked my tweet saying this. I happened to
see it. I said, look what Elon offered. You got
paid until through September. If you had industry, if you
had supreme talent, you would want to get paid and
(27:53):
go find something new to do.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Most people don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Well, as I'm telling you, yes, this is because I
come I come from the beast. I understand. I've been
inside the system. There's there's no appeal like the forever job.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
To a lot of people. The forever job.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Is is you cannot beat that in many people's minds.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I have such a different mindset.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
If you told me that I had to have a
job where I got a four percent raise forever but
I could never be fired, that sounds like the most
miserable existence on the planet to me. I understand some
people like that. They want the security, but it but you.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Moved to the Caribbean to practice law, you started your
own company. You went on and and talked about boobs,
like you know, you're like a You're not the average cat.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I admittedly I have a higher risk tolerance than most people,
but I just I would I would go insane if
you told me, hey, you're a government employee, you make
three and a half percent more for the rest of
your life. Like I could not know.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
But I'm telling you there there are so many people
the same way, Clay that you know cults. One of
the reasons cults appeal to people so much is because
there are people who really want to be told what
to do. Yeah, it's there's a freedom to that, right,
there's all tell me I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Give yourself over completely to that.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Absolutely, and and there's a there's a Federal Civil Service
mindset of once you're in the van Clay. When I
told I left, I mean, it's kind of complicated because
I was the at the Intellience Division, but I was
still I was a CIA, So I had to quit
Intel Division and.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Quit the CIA. You know, I did to do.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But when I told the CI that I was leaving
to go work for Glenn Beck at the Blaze, you know,
when he started the Blaze. This was at the founding
of the Blaze dot com and Glenn's Network and everything else,
which obviously he's done great with. They thought I was insane.
They were just like, what are you. They're like, you're
leaving the You're leaving a cool job and a guaranteed
six figures for the next, you know, twenty five years
and great healthcare benefits to go work at some startup
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you could be fired at. I fired from in six months,
and I was like, yes, but we're not the average catman.
It's certainly not the average civil servant. That's the that's
the point. A lot of them. They wanted just stay
with that security forever. And so the notion that that
could be taken away, they're saying, there are there are
shockwaves going through the whole civil service because of this,
just the idea that it could be cut.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Their whole percentage.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Do you think of federal employees could go and the
average American citizen taxpayer would have no idea it even happened.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Leave aside the media.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I'm honest to god, I would I wouldn't be I
wouldn't be worried about the functions of the federal government. Again,
by the way, were excluding military here? Okay, yes, I
know if we had one hundred thousand person army like
China would invade. We're excluding the military because I got
some people like well, I work. Military is its own thing.
It's a separate We're talking federal civil service like bureaucrats.
(30:42):
Eighty percent. I wouldn't be worried you take eighty Yeah,
I think you could go full Twitter, so to speak,
and cut eighty percent of civil service positions. I mean,
I'll tell you, like you know, you try try to
try to flag down a civil servant when you have
when you have a need of them, you know, try
to get through one of these aid and somehow there's
nothing but people working there and no one seems to
(31:03):
do anything.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, I think certainly half. I would be stunned if
you couldn't fire half, and you would have no idea.
And Elon's example with Twitter, he has doubled the profitability
while firing eighty percent of the workers. Yes, think about
I mean, think about how much just complete waste there
(31:26):
was inside of Twitter.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And why would the federal government not be far worse
than that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
But again, I think what you're getting at when you
lay this out claim, when we're talking about the success
of these things, it reminds me of Buchali and El Salvador,
which is why we talked about that. Hey, it turns
out locking up criminals could completely turn a country around, right, Yes,
the success of Elon and Doge is such a threat
(31:53):
not just to the system but to this sense of
intelligence and sense of security with the way things are
that so many people of the left have, like they
never want to admit that. It turns out the government
is this spleurotic bureaucracy with tons of waste and whatever.
So it's very hard to get them to see what's
(32:16):
really because the more successful this is, the stronger the
argument's become for why can't we make all aspects of
the government more efficient? Why can't we have government that's
more efficient and more accountable. There's no good answers to that,
of course, other than it is what it is. Well
that doesn't work anymore, or at least it's starting to
not work. I don't want to get ahead of ourselves
because that I know the swamp. The swamp is deep, friends,
(32:39):
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Speaker 2 (32:40):
It is smelly, it's rough, and there's an entire cottage industry.
Sixty minutes we played you the raid sixty minutes also
had remember they had the the anonymous federal employee like
talking about, Oh my goodness, what's gonna happen without this
huge federal infrastructure.
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They're doing all all of that work as well. I
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these discussions with Russia. But there seems to be a
demand to allow Ukrainian people to vote for who the
president should be. Remember, Zolensky has ended all elections while
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Speaker 2 (36:24):
This is an interesting dynamic here. We're told that we
have to stand up for democracy in Ukraine, but Russia saying, okay,
let's have an election in Ukraine to see who the
next president is. And it doesn't seem like Zolensky is
confident he would win, which is why he's not allowing
an election to take place. I just think that's a
really intriguing aspect. We'll talk about that with Tom Cotton
(36:46):
and more up next on Klaimbuck
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I know probably
a lot of you had a long weekend. We were
here yesterday on President's Day. If you missed it, you
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crazy slant inside of the iHeartRadio app. But unfortunately, Buck,
there are still a lot of crazy slants that are
coming out of the legacy media. And we talked about
(00:49):
this yesterday, but I want to continue to hammer it
because I'm still in disbelief in many ways that this
is where we are. That on CBS News could say, hey,
the reason the Holocaust happened was because of free speech,
and then later in the day they could go have
(01:11):
a story up on sixty Minutes from Germany where they
praise the raid of a German citizen who had shared
a meme that the government authorities decided they did not
like and I understand some of you are not active
on social media for people who don't know. A meme,
(01:35):
which is basically how my boys communicate. The younger you are,
the more typically you are into memes is often just
a humorous take on something in the world of current events,
a picture, an image, a quick video.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's a joke.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And now they have decided that if jokes are considered
to be offensive or insulting in Germany, that the government
should conduct a raid and you can be arrested for
a joke, a meme, a offensive commentary that you may
have posted online.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And so and so.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Let's actually listen, because we didn't play this cut yesterday.
Let's actually listen to what it sounds like live on
sixty minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
This aired in America.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They are out there arguing that, hey, we need to
have the German police joined on this raid.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's six' oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we
were with state police as they raided this apartment in
northwest Germany, just to put it inside. Inside, six armed
officers searched to suspects home, then seized his laptop and
cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used
(03:03):
to commit a crime, the crime posting a racist cartoon online.
At the exact same time, across Germany supposed to be
the world, more than fifty similar raids played out, part
of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb
online hate speech in Germany.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Buck, I can't believe this is real, and I think
it's important for you all to understand, because this is
what the left would do in this country if they
could a pre dawn raid.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Of an apartment of a German.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Citizen because somebody in the government decided that they had
shared a racist meme.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
One of fifty.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Simultaneous raids, six with a camera crew in tow, six
different government agents going into an apartment and see using
a laptop and a phone. This is this is this
is crazy, Buck.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
This is true across Europe, and it is also a
mentality that is shared by the Canadian government. And it
is also a mentality that democrats in this country wish
they had the power to enforce. And during COVID they
did for a while. During COVID they got they got
really close to this. I mean when they were shutting
down bars and arresting bar owners because they weren't enforcing
(04:28):
masking policy enough. Like morons, you know, meaning you're a
moron if you think that a mask policy in a
bar had anything to do with stopping COVID. This is
the kind of stuff that ends up happening in a
society that has abandoned first principles. There are a few
things that are going on here that are really important. One, Clay,
this is always wait, actually I would step back for
(04:50):
a second for journalists to go along on this, yeah,
and cover it objective, you know, objectively, just meaning, hey,
this is what's going on. This should be like peta
going to a dog fighting ring, Like this should be
the most heinous thing. If you're actually a journalist and
somebody who makes a living in the exchange of ideas
(05:11):
and information as an American, you're supposed to think the
First Amendment is sacred.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
For journalists to go.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And be like, oh wow, look at this, look at
the Stasi like crackdown because of memes, it just shows
you what a fraud I mean this is journalists are
frauds in this country. So we know the whole thing,
and honestly, it's not about oh, there are some good
ones and bad ones. Everyone has opinions, everyone's pushing agendas.
They either tell you the truth about what they think
or they're just lying to you, and CBS is just
continuing to lie to you.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
This is also why culture matters. And I keep hammering
on this, and I know I'm getting to be an
old man because as I age, I am seeing it
more and more and certainly running a business. No One
at CBS buck, and this is what you're hitting at
at No one at CBS News said wait a moment.
(05:59):
Our entire industry is predicated on the idea that we
have free speech. No one raised a hand and said, hey,
should we be covering in a positive manner? German authorities
rating in the early morning hours a random person's house
(06:19):
over a joke that they posted on laws.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But this is why they're telling on themselves. They agree
with this. This is the CBS is covering the German
meme raids with envy. The journals in there thinking, if
only we could do this, we could have our DEI back,
and our affirmative action back, and our left wing trans
policies back, and our go down the list. If only
(06:42):
we could suppress speech the way they do in Germany,
we would be a better society. This also leads to
the Margaret Brennan comment about free speech leads to the Holocaust,
which are directly connected.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Of course, it's against all the same mentality.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So what we're showing you in Germany or what we're
talking about happening in Europe right now, UK and other places.
Guy arrested for silent prayer. That's stock crime, straight up
thought crime. There's no other way. It's what were you
thinking when you were standing in that place? Here's what
I was thinking. You're under arrest. This is something that
the that the left has tried to import here. I
(07:15):
think if Donald Trump had lost this election, they would
have kept pushing and gotten even closer to it, because
remember Trump had lost, they would I mean, they would
have been trying to lock Trump up. I mean all
the things we know, all the things that would have happened.
And a big, another big part of this, specifically in
the European context, clay that I think very much translates
into the American context. What are the means? What is
(07:37):
this stuff really about? You know what it's about illegals
coming into their or I shouldn't even say illegals. In
their case, they're legal. Actually they're migrants to the government
has allowed in Muslim migrants, particularly from Afghanistan Syria, a
number of war toward countries coming into their countries, committing
terrorist acts, raping women, sexually assaulting women in packs in
numbers that these European countries haven't ever seen before, Meaning
(08:01):
they're dealing with these spikes in crime. I mean, you
don't have to we have we'll play it later. The
CEO of Palenteers saying, well, I was just gonna say,
yeah it right now. I think let's do it right now.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Here's this, here's Alex Karp of Palenteer. It's about a
minute clip. I really want you to listen to it,
because this is what the meme wars and they're trying
to shut it down in Europe, is actually all about
play it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You lived in Germany for half your life. Yeah, and
there is a big debate going on about the politics
in Germany right now. You're also Jewish and there is
support and you've even seen it over the weekend. Marco
Rubio and Elon Musk and others have been very supportive
of the alt right movement in Germany. While there have
been questions about their association with some supporting Nazis and
(08:47):
other things, I'm curious where you land on that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I don't want to go into the technicolwitch here. But
the real the problem in Germany is that somehow the
small portion of Germans that believe you cannot talk about
migration without being a bigot, which is about probably fifteen
ninety percent of them vote for the Green parties, have
somehow tricked the larger parties into saying they will only
(09:13):
vote for things if the far right doesn't vote with them,
which basically, as a matter of pragmatic power, shifts all
immigration policy to a small group of people that literally
will not let you discuss the fact that Afghani immigrants
to Germany of a seventy x seventy x propensity compared
to German population to commit certain kind of crimes, and
(09:36):
that in the last couple of weeks, every single terror attack,
every single tarror attack, has been the result.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You go to jail for pointing that out. You'll get
into trouble.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's that's what all this is about. By the way,
Europeans are saying, hey, you guys, realize that if we
didn't have the Muslim migrants we've taken in the last
we basically would have no sexual we'd have no rapes
in this country. I mean the number would be almost
no terrorism and no terrorism. Maybe we don't want more
of this. The governments that did this, like Angela Miracle's
(10:09):
government in Germany and these other governments that were very
much global it's very much part of this, you know,
one world government paradigm play. They sold out their countries
to this idea of we don't need borders, we should
bring in everybody from everywhere. And now these countries have
really big problems and that's why the all right, is
that guy that guy that is annoying it? But that's
why they're rising in some of these countries because people
(10:31):
people actually don't want to be mowed down by maniacs
who are asylum seekers or they're being given their life
back apparently because otherwise they can't go home. They don't
want to be mowed down in a Christmas market, and
they don't want women to be gang raped in the
public square on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's okay that they're allowed to not want that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yes, And also cultures aren't all equal like cultures inside.
I think this is my my BA spent time in Afghanis.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Afghanistan is an inferior culture to the United States in
every respect, okay, in every respect, and.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's across companies too. That's why the CBS news culture,
which should be committed to aggressive pursuit of the truth,
is not right. It's a legacy news organization that has
decided that the marketplace of ideas is a threat, which
is actually the antithesis of what news media should be doing.
(11:27):
The culture has ossified and it has become broken, and
the culture of Germany is better than the culture of
many of the people coming in from foreign countries, and
they're not assimilating buck. They are bringing their culture to
Germany and making Germany a worse version of itself, which
(11:49):
you're not allowed to say.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And now the low t technocrats in the EU who
have been insisting on these policies, brainwashing the youth on
these you know in Sweden, they won't even that. They're
trying to avoid always taking demographic data for who's committing,
for who's committing the rapes. You're just not the police
and know how to talk about this. They're hiding things
(12:12):
from the population because the people who are in charge
are the people who said, if you oppose this, you're
a bad person. And now these populations you're seeing it.
By the way, can you see, I mean the parallels
are different. I mean, rather the specifics are different in
this country, but there are parallels with I want no
m S thirteen illegal aliens in this country or trend
to Iragua illegal aliens in this country. I want none,
(12:33):
and if they're here, they need to go right away.
Democrats say, no, what do you mean? You know this
is America's a nation of immigrants, where nation of illegal,
bloodthirsty gang members. Like really, I mean, we can't get
we can't all agree, even Clay that we should get
rid of them. The answer with Democrats still is no,
they can't agree with us on that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They still have some problem with this.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You're seeing these these low t technocrats, so called technocrats
mostly they're idiots in the EU and in this country,
in the Democrat Party have a big problem on their
hands because too much now has been seen, people have
experienced too much of Oh, just bring in everybody from
the poorest, most dysfunctional, violent cultures you possibly can. And
(13:18):
this is also what they're trying to do in the
United States. When it comes to our speech, you aren't
allowed to ask questions about where COVID came from. You
weren't allowed and still aren't in many ways allowed to
actually analyze crime in the United States right Who commits crime,
(13:39):
where is it being committed?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
What can we do to restrict it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
How many people out there will even talk about where
violent comes from? Violent crime comes from the United States.
And the significance here is if we don't honestly address issues,
if we don't allow everyone to honestly address the issues,
then we can't make anything better. When you restrict what
citizens are able to say, you actually end up. I
(14:06):
think this is one hundred billion percent true, with a
worse public policy outcome because you don't get the full
flourishing of debate. But man, I think what JD. Vance
said and what CBS News showed of itself is indicative
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like that, and that there's also so much clay coming
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start to have a verified numbers pile versus a still
figuring out pile, because I mean, here's a preview of
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what we will be talking about later in the program.
The numbers that they're showing up with, that that DOGE
is finding for what seems to be just clear fraud
or fraud or waste, meaning maybe they're just paying money
into like the bank accounts of people that aren't even
alive anymore, and no one even knows.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Isn't that crazy? Think about that?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I mean, they're just like paying they're paying money into
a black hole, essentially to the tune of millions of people.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The numbers do you take.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's actually going on? Do you think there are millions
of people who are actually dead getting paid to security.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I have a hard time believing it.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
But Elon said, there are three hundred and ninety five
million Social Security numbers in the database right now. Act yeah,
there are three hundred and thirty million American citizens, So.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Some of those probably buck are illegal immigrants that have
fake Social Security accounts, right, so that would go in
the fraud category.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's bad.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
So but you start to look at this and you wonder, Clay,
how is this the age range for According to Social
Security Database, these are the numbers of people in each
age bucket with the death field set to false.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is from Elon's account.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
There are forty five million people that are aged ten
to nineteen with the field set to fall.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like, what is going on? It's like they have no
idea what's happening? Correct? And if there is, If there are.
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a huge deal. If there are millions, I mean, how
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So I want to play this for you in a moment.
This is her argument, Buck, why.
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Speaker 2 (19:42):
Late last night, Elon Musk debuted a new Ai Xai,
which is reportedly now the best AI on the market. Now,
I'm not going to tell you that I am able
to analyze in a sophisticated manner comparable ais, but the
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polymarket service allows wagers on what is the most powerful AI,
and after Xai debuted, it is now off the charts
odds wise considered to be the best AI on the market.
This is Grock three point zero. And I realized that
I might as well be speaking Arabic to many of
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you out there. But the reason why I bring it
up is Elon is better at sending spaceships to space
than NASA. He is better at making electric vehicles than
anyone has ever been in the history of the world.
He is probably better at drilling holes in the Earth
through the Boring Company, and right now Buck he also
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is simultaneously sleeping in an office in the Eisenhower Old
Executive Office Building, my understanding, trying to save all of
us hundreds of billions of dollars in fraudulent and wasteful spending.
I'm not sure that we have ever seen anyone of
this magnitude of achievement in any of our lives. And
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I'm regardless of what political beliefs Elon had. And remember
he was a darling of the left what five years ago? Buck,
I mean, everybody on the left loved him because he
made electric vehicles and he didn't endorse Trump until July,
so he's a relatively newbie when it comes to supporting Trump.
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But Whoopy Goldberg thinks, Hey, this whole SpaceX thing is unnecessary.
Why are we giving them any money from the government.
We have NASA. This was Whoopee going after Elon a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Listen, I want to know.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
When did I say, hey, we need another agency next
to NASA.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So listen, so when did we start.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Panned for s AA.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, No, he you know that he's he's.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Going to be cutting yeah uh NASA. Yeah, yeah, that's
the competition.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So what is the real deal yet?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
None.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
We want to cut some money.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Let's cut some of these follow money. With that follow.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
We have to pay for it.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You are paying for everything he sends up, that comes.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Back down, that falls back down and breaks up.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That's out of our pockets. We'll be right back. Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean she's not she's not smart. Okay, that's that's clear.
She is a comedian to be fair. But yes, right,
I mean, you know, but I mean she has she's
not smart on these issues, has no idea, she's no
idea what she's talking about, absolutely none. And Elon Musk
is trying to do something that everybody should be in
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favor of. This is the problem Democrats keep running into.
If in fact, there are billions of dollars going to
dead people on social you know, for social curity payments whatever,
there's all these different things. There's no pro light American
money on fire constituency. But Democrats, because they have to
be anti Trump and therefore anti Elon, keep putting themselves
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in this position where they're complaining that they're now saying,
you see this clay they have. I mean, I was
gonna talk about this next hour, talking about it now.
They had the acting head of Social Security Administration has
resigned because she didn't want to give Doge access to
personal information. The President has told this guy, I want
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you to have access to executive branch information. And these
people who are running these systems that are clearly in
need of a massive overhaul think they can decide, you
knowilatterally that the presidents will on this issue doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well, what do they think is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
He's the literal richest man in the world. He's not
going to steal your social Security number and sell it
on the dark web. What are these idiots even.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Saying, Clay?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
It makes this whole You know, they have to protect
privacy of these people, Fritt.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
He's even pointed out he ran.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
He was a founder of PayPal, which had everyone's name,
credit card, bank information, whatever. Somebody has access to this stuff.
The we don't trust Elon Musk. We only trust the bureaucrats.
This is the dumbest argument that I've heard in a
long time about anything government related. It's all they have
right now. And it also I think makes anybody paying
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attention realize Democrats, for some reason want to protect this stuff.
They actually don't want this stuff. There are a lot
of Democrats that don't want this stuff to stop. I
So let's go to SpaceX for a moment.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
NASA is so incompetent right now, Buck and our team
can confirm that this is still true, that we don't
have the ability to bring our astronauts back from space. Yes,
right now we have two a man and a woman
American astronauts that I believe were supposed to go to
space for like two weeks. This sounds like a worse nightmare.
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And now they've been there for like six months, and
we don't have the technology to get them back, and
we're asking Elon Musk and SpaceX to do it instead.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
SpaceX.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
To Whoope's point, SpaceX is better and safer and more
efficient at sending rockets to space than NASA is. They're
actually saving us money and doing it at a fraction
of the cost that the taxpayer would otherwise be paying for.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's even bigger than that in a sense, Clay, because
Elon has started a space economy. There is now a
space economy, because he has commercialized sending satellites into space
for governments that need his help, for private industry, his.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Whole the you know, starlink.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Starlink has for the first time made it feasible that
we could have global wherever you are, as long as
you can see the sky, you could have theoretically high
speed internet access. The scale of that business, and by
the way, what it will do to all these providers
that are still charging way too much money for you know,
crappy crappy service. Don't even get me started. I'm always
(26:16):
worried that it's gonna go out when I'm doing the show.
Clay He's created a space economy where one did not
exist before. He has rockets that can be caught on
re entry by a giant mechanical hand. Basically, I mean,
this is wizardry level stuff, but it comes from brilliance,
industry and competition, and it's right. And what's what's funny
(26:39):
about this is the old argument so always, oh, you
don't want the government to do it, who's gonna build
the roads? Well, now people look at this and they're like,
he's better at space, rocket, at space and rockets than NASA.
So what else could be done that the government actually
does not need to be doing? And I think this
is a broader philosophical challenge to the left right now,
which is what exactly are what exactly is government in
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a lot of these cases bringing to the table. There
are very few things that we could all agree on
the government should be doing. There are a lot of
things now that I think people are asking understandably, why.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Is the government even doing that?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I mean, yes, people get upset about the prospect of
doage cutting the Department of Education. Nobody who complains about
this knows what Doe even does.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They don't even know. Look at what about our schools.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
The private education doesn't fund your local public school. You imbeciles, right,
I mean people who are saying this stuff know nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yes, it's true, and that's why I have said. And
Elon actually liked my tweet saying this. I happened to
see it. I said, look what Elon offered. You got
paid until through September. If you had industry, if you
had supreme talent, you would want to get paid and
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go find something new to do.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Most people don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Well, as I'm telling you, yes, this is because I
come I come from the beast. I understand. I've been
inside the system. There's there's no appeal like the forever job.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
To a lot of people. The forever job.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Is is you cannot beat that in many people's minds.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I have such a different mindset.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
If you told me that I had to have a
job where I got a four percent raise forever but
I could never be fired, that sounds like the most
miserable existence on the planet to me. I understand some
people like that. They want the security, but it but you.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Moved to the Caribbean to practice law, you started your
own company. You went on and and talked about boobs,
like you know, you're like a You're not the average cat.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I admittedly I have a higher risk tolerance than most people,
but I just I would I would go insane if
you told me, hey, you're a government employee, you make
three and a half percent more for the rest of
your life. Like I could not know.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
But I'm telling you there there are so many people
the same way, Clay that you know cults. One of
the reasons cults appeal to people so much is because
there are people who really want to be told what
to do. Yeah, it's there's a freedom to that, right,
there's all tell me I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Give yourself over completely to that.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Absolutely, and and there's a there's a Federal Civil Service
mindset of once you're in the van Clay. When I
told I left, I mean, it's kind of complicated because
I was the at the Intellience Division, but I was
still I was a CIA, So I had to quit
Intel Division and.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Quit the CIA. You know, I did to do.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But when I told the CI that I was leaving
to go work for Glenn Beck at the Blaze, you know,
when he started the Blaze. This was at the founding
of the Blaze dot com and Glenn's Network and everything else,
which obviously he's done great with. They thought I was insane.
They were just like, what are you. They're like, you're
leaving the You're leaving a cool job and a guaranteed
six figures for the next, you know, twenty five years
and great healthcare benefits to go work at some startup
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you could be fired at. I fired from in six months,
and I was like, yes, but we're not the average catman.
It's certainly not the average civil servant. That's the that's
the point. A lot of them. They wanted just stay
with that security forever. And so the notion that that
could be taken away, they're saying, there are there are
shockwaves going through the whole civil service because of this,
just the idea that it could be cut.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Their whole percentage.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Do you think of federal employees could go and the
average American citizen taxpayer would have no idea it even happened.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Leave aside the media.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I'm honest to god, I would I wouldn't be I
wouldn't be worried about the functions of the federal government. Again,
by the way, were excluding military here? Okay, yes, I
know if we had one hundred thousand person army like
China would invade. We're excluding the military because I got
some people like well, I work. Military is its own thing.
It's a separate We're talking federal civil service like bureaucrats.
(30:42):
Eighty percent. I wouldn't be worried you take eighty Yeah,
I think you could go full Twitter, so to speak,
and cut eighty percent of civil service positions. I mean,
I'll tell you, like you know, you try try to
try to flag down a civil servant when you have
when you have a need of them, you know, try
to get through one of these aid and somehow there's
nothing but people working there and no one seems to
(31:03):
do anything.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, I think certainly half. I would be stunned if
you couldn't fire half, and you would have no idea.
And Elon's example with Twitter, he has doubled the profitability
while firing eighty percent of the workers. Yes, think about
I mean, think about how much just complete waste there
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was inside of Twitter.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And why would the federal government not be far worse
than that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
But again, I think what you're getting at when you
lay this out claim, when we're talking about the success
of these things, it reminds me of Buchali and El Salvador,
which is why we talked about that. Hey, it turns
out locking up criminals could completely turn a country around, right, Yes,
the success of Elon and Doge is such a threat
(31:53):
not just to the system but to this sense of
intelligence and sense of security with the way things are
that so many people of the left have, like they
never want to admit that. It turns out the government
is this spleurotic bureaucracy with tons of waste and whatever.
So it's very hard to get them to see what's
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really because the more successful this is, the stronger the
argument's become for why can't we make all aspects of
the government more efficient? Why can't we have government that's
more efficient and more accountable. There's no good answers to that,
of course, other than it is what it is. Well
that doesn't work anymore, or at least it's starting to
not work. I don't want to get ahead of ourselves
because that I know the swamp. The swamp is deep, friends,
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it is deep.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It is smelly, it's rough, and there's an entire cottage industry.
Sixty minutes we played you the raid sixty minutes also
had remember they had the the anonymous federal employee like
talking about, Oh my goodness, what's gonna happen without this
huge federal infrastructure.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
They're doing all all of that work as well. I
think they were a contractor, by the way. I think
that came out afterwards that that was a USA contractor,
not even a full time employee. But I'll go back
and check on that one. Let's talk about the brilliant
and incredible work that Preborn is doing for a moment.
The pro life community is so incredibly proud of what
Preborn has done for decades now, and they rely on
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So what does Preborn do? They get right there on
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Because when that mom to be seesed a little tiny
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She understands this is a beautiful life that I'm going
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Preborn is doing this mission day in and day out.
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Speaker 4 (34:54):
I'm like the guy who goes to see the band
wearing the band T shirt. But if you started the band,
I think you're allowed to do that. Although I don't know,
you never really like you never see like Dave Matthews
band up on stage with a Dave Matthews T shirt
onto you. That's probably it's probably not considered cool.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
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we got Senator Tom Cotton. We'll talk to him about
his book and also, is there going to be peace
in Well, peace might be too strong. There's gonna be
a ceasefire in Russia Ukraine here soon based on Trump's
(35:54):
overtures and more stuff like that. It's also interesting, but
the one of the conversations pieces. We'll talk to Marco
Rubio again about this because he obviously is helming up
these discussions with Russia. But there seems to be a
demand to allow Ukrainian people to vote for who the
president should be. Remember, Zolensky has ended all elections while
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the war is going on. But Zolensky doesn't seem to
believe that he would win the election.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
This is an interesting dynamic here. We're told that we
have to stand up for democracy in Ukraine, but Russia saying, okay,
let's have an election in Ukraine to see who the
next president is. And it doesn't seem like Zolensky is
confident he would win, which is why he's not allowing
an election to take place. I just think that's a
really intriguing aspect. We'll talk about that with Tom Cotton
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