February 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Laurel Libby, Maine State Representative, on being censured for standing up for protecting women's sports. Hat tip to Chris Rufo for real journalism. Tulsi Gabbard fires more than 100 people in the intelligence community for participating in sexually explicit chatrooms on government servers. Clay and Buck on Bezos. The propaganda fantasy has been shattered. Cartel of imbeciles. Talkback from painter Jason.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number two Thursday edition Clay Travis
buck Sexton Show Hoopaul of you are having fantastic Thursdays
as we roll into what should be a fun weekend
finally February over. Maybe weather's starting to get a little
bit better wherever you are as we roll into March.
I'm sure it is still very cold where we're about
to head next up to Maine, where State Representative Laurel
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Libby has been fighting a battle that I think most
of you who are listening to us in Maine will
agree with, and certainly the vast majority of you listen
listening nationwide will agree with as well. Laurel, Your governor
was Janet Mills, I believe, on Friday, directly confronted by
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President Trump over whether she was going to continue to
allow men who identify as women to be competing in
women's sporting events. She said she was. She said she
was going to sue Trump. You've been fighting back against
this absurdity. What is the latest on the ground in
Maine and what has happened to you for being as
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outspoken in favor of a crazy idea men should compete
against men and women should compete against women.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me on today. You know,
Governor Mills is completely out of touch with her constituency.
The vast majority of manors do not agree with her
extremist viewpoint that biological meals should be paying female sus.
They support comment and ensuring females takes and level playing fields,
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and so most folks are quite disappointed to see Governor
Mills having this standoff with President Trump when he's simply
speaking up and standing up for main girls where our
governor should be. Frankly, I have been now censured for
my views because of a post that I made on Facebook,
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and my right to vote constituents and speak on the
floor is now has now been as of this week
because of speaking out for me and girls.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, Laurel, let's get into what exactly happened here my understanding.
Our understanding is that you posted on Facebook last week
showing a trans student, so a man or a young
man or whatever winning a female state championship pole vaulting competition.
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So oh, here was this is the quote, I believe
another day, another instance of an unremarkable biological male athlete
who couldn't win against other males dominating girls' sports. That
is a statement of largely at least a statement of fact.
I mean, I guess they could say there's some aspect
of opinion in there, but that's also protected by the
First Amendment. What are you being censured for? What is
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the problem according to the people who think you need
to be censored?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, you know that's not even the post I'm being
censured for. The post I'm being censured for was on
Facebook and its simply highlighted that John had won fifth
place at a regional competition last year, and that as
Katie this year he won the state championship. He last
participated as a male as a young man last year
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in June, and now this February he's winning a state
championship as a quote unquote girl. It is absolutely, completely,
without question, completely unfair. He has displaced biological females from
their rightful place at the top of that podium. And
the left are incredibly angry that this has been pointed
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out and that everyone in Maine and across the country
can see that the emperor has no clothes and that
this is absolutely going on in our state and they
think it's unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So let's go into this In particular, Trump lost the
state of Maine by seven points on a political basis.
In twenty twenty four, he won one electoral vote in
the northern part of the state. Because Maine divides its
electoral votes. What percentage you live in Maine. We've taken
a lot of calls from people in Maine, gotten a
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lot of reaction. What percentage of the residence of the
state of Maine do you think agree with virtually everything
that you are saying.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think that Maine follows the national eighty percent polling.
And I say that because I've had so much outreach
from Democrats, and so I try to be careful talking
about this because this is an issue where Augusta Democrats,
those in power are outliers. I think from what I'm
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seeing that by and large, Maine Democrats at ordinary, everyday
manors follow these national trends, this eighty twenty where sixty
three percent of Democrats you know, ninety some percent of Republicans.
I think we follow on those lines twenty issue in
rain I can't tell you how many Democrats I have
heard from in our state who specifically identify they say,
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I am a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You are right or speaking to Maine State Representative Laurel Libby.
And Laurel, let me ask you, why do you think
the governor of your state, apart from the ideological adherence
to this right, are there special interest that she's trying
to placate to your knowledge.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Are there donors or big NGOs or something that are
have given her a lot of campaign money because it
just seems to your point, it's an eighty twenty issue.
It's rather straightforward. The photo you shared of the bilock.
I mean, it's a man, Okay, it's a young man
competing against women. Anyone can see this and realize it
is absurd and it's wrong. So is there any outside
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reason or any external reason beyond ideology that is making
the in your opinion, making the governor of Maine take
this bizarre position.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, you know, I think it's multifactorial. It's certainly catering
to their base, which I think is a political error
on their part because they're so off. But I think, yeah,
I think that they just don't think that they can lose,
and that's the thing they've gotten really cocky, because you know,
Governor Mills is in six years now and has another
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two years in this second term, and the Democrats have
maintained a majority for those six years, despite the fact
that they are flushing me in down the toilet. This
is far from the only extreme policy that has been
passed in our state, but this is the first time
that I've seen such a significant awakening to how extreme
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their policies are. And Governor Mills is not used to
being challenged by anyone who has the power to actually
take action, so this is the first time she is
facing our significant challenger to the tyranny going on in
our state. I think there's multiple factors at play here,
but I think one of those is just a feeling
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that they're improvious, which I think is going to be
proven very wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Would you ever believe, Laurel, that we would have a
situation where the Democrat Party would basically support men who
are identifying as women being able to compete in women's sports,
and Republicans would say, hey, we don't do this, and
to your point, this is not really a political issue.
Sixty seven percent of Democrats agree with that statement, seventy
nine percent. As you mentioned earlier, this according to the
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New York Times of people nationwide, ninety four percent of Republicans.
It's hard to get eighty percent of people to agree
on anything. We've got eighty percent agreement here. There's a
vote coming up on the Senate floor Monday. Senator John
Thune's office just sent me a message to make us aware.
They wanted me to share with the audience that they
are going to vote to try to pass the law
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in the Senate that has already passed the House. Isn't
this just basic common sense, Laurel.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, it is just basic common sense. But you know,
the main Democrat party is not known for common sense.
So let's make that really clear. They don't have an
abundance of that. It's in short supply here in Maine.
And so it does not surprise me at all that
we are here because they are out of touch with
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their manor with fellow maynors in so many other ways
as well. This is just the most recent illustration of it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Do you have any interest? Oh, go ahead, Claig, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I was just going to say, do you have any
sense on how Susan Collins comes down on this? Because
she's up for reelection in twenty twenty six, and that's
the biggest statewide battle. I would imagine that will happen
in the near future. Has she reached out any of
her staff? Do you have a sense of what she
thinks about this debate?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, you know, I've seen her quoted in speaking up
that girl sports should should be for girls and not
biological males. I believe that she was also quoted saying
that it's a state issue, so you know, walking that
cheerful line that she does.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Do you have any interest in running for governor yourself?
At some point sounds like this might be a good
job for you.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I've certainly been hearing that question a lot, But right
now my focus is on main girls and their rights,
which are being absolutely trampled in our states. But I
think we have a window of opportunity here, thanks to
the Trump administration, to tackle that and hopefully ensure that
main girls have a fair and level playing field at
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some point in the near future. It won't happen because
of state intervention. That's absolutely one hundred percent in my book,
but I have hope that thanks to the administration, we
might see.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Changed outstanding stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Laurel.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We appreciate you reaching out. Laurel Libby State Rep. In
Maine fighting for basic common sense when it comes to
women's sports related issues. Laurel, we appreciate the time and
keep us updated on how things are going up there.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We mentioned this before,
but might be worth getting into in some more detail.
At my former home agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, it's
a long time ago, and it was a very different
place then. I will have you know, very different ethos
than what has been prevailing really in the Obama and
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post Obama years within the intelligence community. I think you
can trace back a lot of the not just the
deep state individuals, but deep state mentality to that period
of time within the IC. I think Trump had to
deal with the aftermath and ramifications that. Remember Trump comes
into office in twenty sixteen and they were already coming
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after it, right, So it was set in place in
the Obama years, and I think it was transformed and
the transformation was occurring then. Anyway, you have a number
of people now I think over one hundred who have
been fired because they were writing crazy stuff. This is
Chris Rufo, hatship, Chris Rufo once again finding the information
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the evidence needed to bring to light what's really going on.
And Clay they were talking about stuff. I had to
look up some of the things that they were referring to.
I was not even familiar with some of the LGBTQYA
plus plus plus jargon that was being thrown around. I
was familiar with the words when they talked about how
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there was a desire to have a hermaphrodite child because
of the opportunities that would provide for the trans movement.
This is on government government servers. This is on government
time and their computers, their system. Tulsi is not having it.
The Director of National Intelligence, this has cut ten play it.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
What we're going to do has already been done. They're
over one hundred people from across the intelligence community that
contributed to and participated in this what is really just
an egregious violation of trust what to speak of like
basic rules and standards around professionalism. I put out a
directive today that they all will be terminated and their
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security clearances will be revoked.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And they were brazen in.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Doing this because when was the last time anyone was
really held accountable? Certainly not over the last four years,
Certainly not over the last ten, maybe twenty years.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Clay, the whole security clearance situation is can the government
trust you? Can your colleagues trust you? That's really Security
clearance is supposed to be an indicator that you're a
trustworthy person. If I'm in an office environment with some
and they tell me that they want to be referred
to and this is from one of the chat logs
as it it's I don't trust you, I don't and
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they really mean this, like they actually want people to
call them an it, not a he or a she. I.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Also, first of all, firing all these people is an
easy call. So credit to Tulsa Gabbard. If you're engaging
in this kind of behavior on taxpayer dole, it believes honestly,
if you're this is not close to appropriate or inappropriate
activity at work. So if you're doing this, you feel
like basically you live in a consequence free environment in
(14:38):
terms of your job, because I imagine most of you
would not engage in far left wing gender ideology or
far right wing gender ideology talk inside of a chat
in your job, whatever you do for a living. Okay,
So that's point one point two here, and this is
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I think very significant. How in the world did these
people get hired? I want to give you this hypothetical buck.
You are well aware, and I would imagine most of
our audience is well aware. But I want you to
break it down. Having been inside of the CIA, whatever foibles, peculiarities,
idiosyncrasies you have that make you vulnerable to exploitation by
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a foreign government is something that you shouldn't be embracing
inside of intelligence, right. I don't want in general my
intelligence agents engaging in behavior that leaves them susceptible or
vulnerable to exposure and advantageous acts by foreign organizations. Isn't
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being engaged in behavior like this, just on its baseline
level a sign that you shouldn't be involved in high
level intelligence gathering?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I would certainly argue, yes. I think it's clear that
that's the case. To your other, to your initial point
about the kinds of information that is up for review
when you go into the CIA and and you're trying
to get a clearance what you know what what are
your sexual what are your sexual pot in college is
like us, drug use is investigated. I mean, just think
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about something. What kind of debts do you have? Are
you supporting a family member that you're not telling us about?
I mean there's just all kinds of stuff you have
no privacy. Is the point, you have no privacy. They're
allowed to and will ask you absolutely everything. They'll do
it while you're on a polygraph machine, and if you
lie to them, you can be fired and even prosecuted
depending on what the lie is about. So yeah, it's
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taken very seriously, at least it used to be. And
for people now to be in these positions where they're
being entrusted with this information.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And also I think polluting these these institutions with crazy ideas.
I mean, just to understand that's also a big problem.
I would not trust somebody who was righting. I mean
you really have to get into what the writing in
these chats that you understand this is really weird, sick stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We can't say most of it on the air.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean it's really And they're talking about how
good it feels when they have body parts removed, when
they then have like the new fake body part that's
been created. I mean, it's really like graphic stuff. But
these are the people inside the NSA and the CIA,
the two premier intelligence gathering agencies of the United States government.
There's over one hundred. There's over one hundred of them.
It's not like it was two people. There's over one
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hundred of them who are getting fired, who are involved
in this. And that's just the people in this chat.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
How many other uh, you know, trans lunatics are running
around with top secret clearances.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And how many of them have been hired? And to me,
this would be a immediate hey, you don't really belong
in the intelligence services scenario.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, Well, what deis meant is hiring a lot of
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
All right, we talked about the Washington Post and Jeff
Bezos having in some way a moment of recognition that
maybe Trump wasn't such a bad guy. And I don't
know if you read this article, Buck, but there were reports.
We know Bezos was at the inauguration. We know Bezos's girlfriend,
(19:15):
Lauren Sanchez basically wore a bra to the inauguration. As
we said on the show, brought her own booby trap
to the inauguration caught Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook CEO with that
booby trap in photos, But there hadn't been really knowledge
of when the Bezos Trump relationship got repaired in some sense.
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And Buck the reporters out there that Bezos called Trump
soon after the assassination attempt, said that he was impressed
with Trump's reaction, which I do think we can talk
about for a second here in a moment, but that
he wanted Doug Bergham to be the vice president, and
(20:00):
Doug Bergham set up the call between Bezos and Trump
so that Bezos could tell Trump, Hey, Burgham's a guy
that makes sense. He would be a good VP choice. Okay, Now,
I do believe that in the years to come, Buck,
and you and I nailed this on July fifteenth from Milwaukee,
right after it happened, right after the assassination attempt happened.
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I think the Trump response the fight, fight fight. There
are going to be statues everywhere that is going to
become I truly do believe this more iconic in the
decades ahead than it even is right now. But I
think a lot of men in particular, and many women
as well, became Trump's supporters in the immediate aftermath of
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the way he responded to that assassination attempt. And I
think Bezos is one. I think Zuckerberg is one. I
think it jolted a lot of people out of Trump
is just a television guy who is on a performance
art to this guy's willing to die for what he
believes in. And I don't know how you could be
trust tested more in the crucible of life and death
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as a politician than what happened to him in Butler, Pennsylvania.
So there are reports that Bezos reached out to Trump
and they had conversations starting in July, and we didn't
really know about that until it got to November, when
Bezos said, hey, we're not going to be endorsing. I
think Bezos became a Trump guy in July of twenty
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twenty four after that assassination attempt. You buy in theory,
into that idea, or you rejected.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I'm partially there with you. I'm not sure that I wouldn't.
I would never describe Bezos as a Trump guy. I
just mean that he voted for him.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
When I say Trump guy, I mean he chose I
think he voted in November for Trump. So I think
that's I think that's an important distinction right for our purposes,
because I think he probably still disagrees with a number
of Trump policy directives. I can just tell you, I
think Bezos is pretty close to an open borders guy.
All these tech guys just love being able to particularly
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use the H one B scam to get people from
all over the world to come and work for lower
wages than they otherwise would, and they get to build
up the stock price, etc. So I think that Bezos
recognized that the Democrats. Remember it wasn't just that the
Democrats lied to everybody about Biden. They lied to everybody
about Biden and then elevated a catastrophically incompetent and laughable candidate.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
That is what actually happened. And any objective person in
that whole scenario who's open to new evidence could see that. Right.
So I think Bezos, you know, right now, he leans
a little in the Trump direction, but I don't think
that he I don't think anyone can trust him. I
think he's got a lot of elon envy two. And
then I think that you have Zuckerberg, who is purely
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where the wind is blowing on this or because I
don't think he's a leader. I don't think he's a
guy of particular backbone, and so he'll just do whatever.
But they are rational, high IQ people, right, and they
can see what's going on. And the Democrat Party, it's
not just that there's a contingent of the Democrat Party
that is insane. The craziest Democrats were the ones calling
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the shots while Biden was in office, and that was
the bait and switch that I think enraged because Biden
was supposed to be the old school moderate Democrat and
what they got was AOC policies under this puppet of
Joe Biden, doddering and you know, trying to maneuver off
stage in one piece, and everyone just realized what a
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preposterous joke it was. I want to play cut eight
here because this is former Washington Post executive editor Marty
barn saying Bezos is taking ownership of the newspaper he owns.
By the way, all Bezos said this week was that
they're going to now focus their Washington Post opinion pages
on freedom and the support of market based economics, basically
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capitalism and freedom.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's all he said. Buck. Here is Marty Baron losing
his mind over what Jeff Bezos is doing. Listen to
cut a obviously note about this.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Only his point of view is going to be represented
on those pages. And that really is a betrayal of
the heritage of the Washington Post, and I think a
betrayal of the very idea of free expression. And it
actually can contrast to how newspapers news organizations honored free
expression with a variety of points of view, it actually
dishonors free expression, which is the most fundamental personal liberty
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of American citizens. This is really an anti democratic move.
It says that, no, the only opinion that is permitted
here is my opinion, and you have to share that,
and there's no room for you on my page. Is
if you have an opposing point of view that is
anti democratic in nature.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
All right, I ran until I sold out, kickbuck out.
Kick Jeff Bezos paid two hundred and fifty million dollars
to buy the Washington Post. He should be, in my opinion,
intimately involved in setting the agenda for that newspaper. That
is an anti democratic that's pro capitalism. When you own
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a company, the very foundation of owning a company is
you set the agenda. I I the idea that you
would and I give credit to Bezos for finally stepping forward, buck,
but the idea that you would employ a thousand journalist
and that you would cow tow and bend the need
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of them when they're upset about the trajectory you want
to take the business. Excuse me, he's the owner of
the company. If you don't like it, leave all right.
Like this is where I got Bezos's back one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
This is there's a common thread here that goes through
the old big newspapers, the federal bureaucracy, now the university system.
And the threat is these are supposed to be objective,
neutral spaces. This is what they tell us. They tell
us that these are objective and neutral spaces, neutral politically, right,
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And I know that that's laughable, but I'll just let
me finish. They tell us this while we know that
they are completely dominated by one side politically and have
become little fiefdoms of that political party. But there's always
been this facade, and they've kept it up because it's
a way of you know, evading the opposition.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Not oh, I'm just a journalist, man, I'm just reporting facts.
Like we're just all about free expression. Washington posts about
free expression. Where were they when Facebook was censoring and
Twitter was censoring all intelligent commentary about COVID?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Where were there editorials saying that that was an absolute
betrayal of the first moment. That's shutting down churches was
an absolute betrayal the first. These people are clowns. They
live in some alternate universe. They might as well think
that they're in North Korea. As far as I'm concerned.
They are completely delusional. And this guy, what he's saying
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just makes just makes no sense. It's like he's been
asleep for the last ten years. They have dominated, they
have pushed an agenda, and now Jeff Bezos is just
trying to push it back toward the center a little bit,
just a little bit, and they're and they're crying about
it like the little babies that they are.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Which is exactly what an owner should do. And the
whole purpose of having ownership of something is you are
the decider. Bezos bought the Washington Post all of these
whiney writer I got a lot of words I want
to use that believe that they have the right to
have a job to write whatever they want and that
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the owner has to pay them, and if he disagrees
with the trajectory of the business, he's not allowed to
speak out about it. I look, this is what I've
been calling for Bezos to do for a long time.
Buck is, just try to return the paper to some
form of normalcy, right, just have a paper that's common sense.
I'm not saying that you or I is going to
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agree with everything in the Washington Post. We shouldn't, but
I shouldn't get to the opinion page, and every opinion
shouldn't be America sucks and capitalism is awful and Trump
is literally hitler. I'm sorry, that's not a business I
would want to run. And I I tend to break
from a lot of people in even in the media
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on this issue. I mean, if you go back to
the time of the American Founding, go back to when
the amendments are ratified, newspapers were rapidly partisan, explicitly. I
wrote in one of my books, you go back and
go back and you know, read about like, you know,
the American Aurora. I mean, go back and look at
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you know, the Independent Chronicle, look at these different uh,
you know papers at the time of the Founding they
were in favor of certain candidates, in favor of a
certain party, in favor of a certain ideology. And what's
fascinating is that with the rise of mass media and
the ability for corporations to control the message in a way.
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You know, anyone can have a printing press more or less,
but not everybody's going to have access to the radio,
air waves to TV. In the twentieth century is when
we came up with this idea. And it's really post
World War two, of there's an objective news media, Walter Cronkite,
we can trust this is there a bunch of libs.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
This was the Brown University faculty lounge, pretending that they
don't have an opinion while they're presenting the news to you. Now,
it has gotten worse over the last twenty years, it's
gotten more obvious. But it was never objective. I mean,
this is I just think everybody's understand that was always
a fiction. Was totally a fiction.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You know what, it was a really lucrative fiction because
if you study the history of American media, the reason
why they started saying, hey, we're going to do all
the news that's fit to print. For instance, at the
New York Times was because you could sell way more
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Speaker 3 (30:11):
There's also an advantage. It's like claiming you're an expert
when you're giving testimony in court. Right all this person's
an expert. They have to be waited more thoroughly, more
strongly in whatever they say. The journals, the journal industrial
complex has done this thing New York Times, Washington Post, CNN,
et cetera. They've done this thing where they try to
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tell people we're just down the middle, we don't have
a point of view, while constantly feeding a point of view,
while constantly beating the propaganda drum.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And it's more effective. That's why they do it.
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It also means that they don't have to deal with
people like you and me, or at least not the
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We're just reporting, we're not actually making editorial decisions. And
as you and I both know well and I've talked about,
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That's bigger even than how you talk about it and
your assessments and your analysis, what you do and what
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you don't think is important, important enough to spend your
time on and spend your platform on. That's the biggest,
single one. And so the notion that any of these
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Welcome back in our number two Thursday edition Clay Travis
buck Sexton Show Hoopaul of you are having fantastic Thursdays
as we roll into what should be a fun weekend
finally February over. Maybe weather's starting to get a little
bit better wherever you are as we roll into March.
I'm sure it is still very cold where we're about
to head next up to Maine, where State Representative Laurel
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Libby has been fighting a battle that I think most
of you who are listening to us in Maine will
agree with, and certainly the vast majority of you listen
listening nationwide will agree with as well. Laurel, Your governor
was Janet Mills, I believe, on Friday, directly confronted by
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President Trump over whether she was going to continue to
allow men who identify as women to be competing in
women's sporting events. She said she was. She said she
was going to sue Trump. You've been fighting back against
this absurdity. What is the latest on the ground in
Maine and what has happened to you for being as
(01:06):
outspoken in favor of a crazy idea men should compete
against men and women should compete against women.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me on today. You know,
Governor Mills is completely out of touch with her constituency.
The vast majority of manors do not agree with her
extremist viewpoint that biological meals should be paying female sus.
They support comment and ensuring females takes and level playing fields,
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and so most folks are quite disappointed to see Governor
Mills having this standoff with President Trump when he's simply
speaking up and standing up for main girls where our
governor should be. Frankly, I have been now censured for
my views because of a post that I made on Facebook,
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and my right to vote constituents and speak on the
floor is now has now been as of this week
because of speaking out for me and girls.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, Laurel, let's get into what exactly happened here my understanding.
Our understanding is that you posted on Facebook last week
showing a trans student, so a man or a young
man or whatever winning a female state championship pole vaulting competition.
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So oh, here was this is the quote, I believe
another day, another instance of an unremarkable biological male athlete
who couldn't win against other males dominating girls' sports. That
is a statement of largely at least a statement of fact.
I mean, I guess they could say there's some aspect
of opinion in there, but that's also protected by the
First Amendment. What are you being censured for? What is
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the problem according to the people who think you need
to be censored?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, you know that's not even the post I'm being
censured for. The post I'm being censured for was on
Facebook and its simply highlighted that John had won fifth
place at a regional competition last year, and that as
Katie this year he won the state championship. He last
participated as a male as a young man last year
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in June, and now this February he's winning a state
championship as a quote unquote girl. It is absolutely, completely,
without question, completely unfair. He has displaced biological females from
their rightful place at the top of that podium. And
the left are incredibly angry that this has been pointed
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out and that everyone in Maine and across the country
can see that the emperor has no clothes and that
this is absolutely going on in our state and they
think it's unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So let's go into this In particular, Trump lost the
state of Maine by seven points on a political basis.
In twenty twenty four, he won one electoral vote in
the northern part of the state. Because Maine divides its
electoral votes. What percentage you live in Maine. We've taken
a lot of calls from people in Maine, gotten a
(04:13):
lot of reaction. What percentage of the residence of the
state of Maine do you think agree with virtually everything
that you are saying.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think that Maine follows the national eighty percent polling.
And I say that because I've had so much outreach
from Democrats, and so I try to be careful talking
about this because this is an issue where Augusta Democrats,
those in power are outliers. I think from what I'm
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seeing that by and large, Maine Democrats at ordinary, everyday
manors follow these national trends, this eighty twenty where sixty
three percent of Democrats you know, ninety some percent of Republicans.
I think we follow on those lines twenty issue in
rain I can't tell you how many Democrats I have
heard from in our state who specifically identify they say,
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I am a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You are right or speaking to Maine State Representative Laurel Libby.
And Laurel, let me ask you, why do you think
the governor of your state, apart from the ideological adherence
to this right, are there special interest that she's trying
to placate to your knowledge.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Are there donors or big NGOs or something that are
have given her a lot of campaign money because it
just seems to your point, it's an eighty twenty issue.
It's rather straightforward. The photo you shared of the bilock.
I mean, it's a man, Okay, it's a young man
competing against women. Anyone can see this and realize it
is absurd and it's wrong. So is there any outside
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reason or any external reason beyond ideology that is making
the in your opinion, making the governor of Maine take
this bizarre position.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, you know, I think it's multifactorial. It's certainly catering
to their base, which I think is a political error
on their part because they're so off. But I think, yeah,
I think that they just don't think that they can lose,
and that's the thing they've gotten really cocky, because you know,
Governor Mills is in six years now and has another
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two years in this second term, and the Democrats have
maintained a majority for those six years, despite the fact
that they are flushing me in down the toilet. This
is far from the only extreme policy that has been
passed in our state, but this is the first time
that I've seen such a significant awakening to how extreme
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their policies are. And Governor Mills is not used to
being challenged by anyone who has the power to actually
take action, so this is the first time she is
facing our significant challenger to the tyranny going on in
our state. I think there's multiple factors at play here,
but I think one of those is just a feeling
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that they're improvious, which I think is going to be
proven very wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Would you ever believe, Laurel, that we would have a
situation where the Democrat Party would basically support men who
are identifying as women being able to compete in women's sports,
and Republicans would say, hey, we don't do this, and
to your point, this is not really a political issue.
Sixty seven percent of Democrats agree with that statement, seventy
nine percent. As you mentioned earlier, this according to the
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New York Times of people nationwide, ninety four percent of Republicans.
It's hard to get eighty percent of people to agree
on anything. We've got eighty percent agreement here. There's a
vote coming up on the Senate floor Monday. Senator John
Thune's office just sent me a message to make us aware.
They wanted me to share with the audience that they
are going to vote to try to pass the law
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in the Senate that has already passed the House. Isn't
this just basic common sense, Laurel.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, it is just basic common sense. But you know,
the main Democrat party is not known for common sense.
So let's make that really clear. They don't have an
abundance of that. It's in short supply here in Maine.
And so it does not surprise me at all that
we are here because they are out of touch with
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their manor with fellow maynors in so many other ways
as well. This is just the most recent illustration of it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Do you have any interest? Oh, go ahead, Claig, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I was just going to say, do you have any
sense on how Susan Collins comes down on this? Because
she's up for reelection in twenty twenty six, and that's
the biggest statewide battle. I would imagine that will happen
in the near future. Has she reached out any of
her staff? Do you have a sense of what she
thinks about this debate?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, you know, I've seen her quoted in speaking up
that girl sports should should be for girls and not
biological males. I believe that she was also quoted saying
that it's a state issue, so you know, walking that
cheerful line that she does.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Do you have any interest in running for governor yourself?
At some point sounds like this might be a good
job for you.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I've certainly been hearing that question a lot, But right
now my focus is on main girls and their rights,
which are being absolutely trampled in our states. But I
think we have a window of opportunity here, thanks to
the Trump administration, to tackle that and hopefully ensure that
main girls have a fair and level playing field at
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some point in the near future. It won't happen because
of state intervention. That's absolutely one hundred percent in my book,
but I have hope that thanks to the administration, we
might see.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Changed outstanding stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Laurel.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We appreciate you reaching out. Laurel Libby State Rep. In
Maine fighting for basic common sense when it comes to
women's sports related issues. Laurel, we appreciate the time and
keep us updated on how things are going up there.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We mentioned this before,
but might be worth getting into in some more detail.
At my former home agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, it's
a long time ago, and it was a very different
place then. I will have you know, very different ethos
than what has been prevailing really in the Obama and
(11:45):
post Obama years within the intelligence community. I think you
can trace back a lot of the not just the
deep state individuals, but deep state mentality to that period
of time within the IC. I think Trump had to
deal with the aftermath and ramifications that. Remember Trump comes
into office in twenty sixteen and they were already coming
(12:06):
after it, right, So it was set in place in
the Obama years, and I think it was transformed and
the transformation was occurring then. Anyway, you have a number
of people now I think over one hundred who have
been fired because they were writing crazy stuff. This is
Chris Rufo, hatship, Chris Rufo once again finding the information
(12:30):
the evidence needed to bring to light what's really going on.
And Clay they were talking about stuff. I had to
look up some of the things that they were referring to.
I was not even familiar with some of the LGBTQYA
plus plus plus jargon that was being thrown around. I
was familiar with the words when they talked about how
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there was a desire to have a hermaphrodite child because
of the opportunities that would provide for the trans movement.
This is on government government servers. This is on government
time and their computers, their system. Tulsi is not having it.
The Director of National Intelligence, this has cut ten play it.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
What we're going to do has already been done. They're
over one hundred people from across the intelligence community that
contributed to and participated in this what is really just
an egregious violation of trust what to speak of like
basic rules and standards around professionalism. I put out a
directive today that they all will be terminated and their
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security clearances will be revoked.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And they were brazen in.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Doing this because when was the last time anyone was
really held accountable? Certainly not over the last four years,
Certainly not over the last ten, maybe twenty years.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Clay, the whole security clearance situation is can the government
trust you? Can your colleagues trust you? That's really Security
clearance is supposed to be an indicator that you're a
trustworthy person. If I'm in an office environment with some
and they tell me that they want to be referred
to and this is from one of the chat logs
as it it's I don't trust you, I don't and
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they really mean this, like they actually want people to
call them an it, not a he or a she. I.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Also, first of all, firing all these people is an
easy call. So credit to Tulsa Gabbard. If you're engaging
in this kind of behavior on taxpayer dole, it believes honestly,
if you're this is not close to appropriate or inappropriate
activity at work. So if you're doing this, you feel
like basically you live in a consequence free environment in
(14:38):
terms of your job, because I imagine most of you
would not engage in far left wing gender ideology or
far right wing gender ideology talk inside of a chat
in your job, whatever you do for a living. Okay,
So that's point one point two here, and this is
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I think very significant. How in the world did these
people get hired? I want to give you this hypothetical buck.
You are well aware, and I would imagine most of
our audience is well aware. But I want you to
break it down. Having been inside of the CIA, whatever foibles, peculiarities,
idiosyncrasies you have that make you vulnerable to exploitation by
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a foreign government is something that you shouldn't be embracing
inside of intelligence, right. I don't want in general my
intelligence agents engaging in behavior that leaves them susceptible or
vulnerable to exposure and advantageous acts by foreign organizations. Isn't
(15:46):
being engaged in behavior like this, just on its baseline
level a sign that you shouldn't be involved in high
level intelligence gathering?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I would certainly argue, yes. I think it's clear that
that's the case. To your other, to your initial point
about the kinds of information that is up for review
when you go into the CIA and and you're trying
to get a clearance what you know what what are
your sexual what are your sexual pot in college is
like us, drug use is investigated. I mean, just think
(16:21):
about something. What kind of debts do you have? Are
you supporting a family member that you're not telling us about?
I mean there's just all kinds of stuff you have
no privacy. Is the point, you have no privacy. They're
allowed to and will ask you absolutely everything. They'll do
it while you're on a polygraph machine, and if you
lie to them, you can be fired and even prosecuted
depending on what the lie is about. So yeah, it's
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taken very seriously, at least it used to be. And
for people now to be in these positions where they're
being entrusted with this information.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And also I think polluting these these institutions with crazy ideas.
I mean, just to understand that's also a big problem.
I would not trust somebody who was righting. I mean
you really have to get into what the writing in
these chats that you understand this is really weird, sick stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We can't say most of it on the air.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean it's really And they're talking about how
good it feels when they have body parts removed, when
they then have like the new fake body part that's
been created. I mean, it's really like graphic stuff. But
these are the people inside the NSA and the CIA,
the two premier intelligence gathering agencies of the United States government.
There's over one hundred. There's over one hundred of them.
It's not like it was two people. There's over one
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hundred of them who are getting fired, who are involved
in this. And that's just the people in this chat.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
How many other uh, you know, trans lunatics are running
around with top secret clearances.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And how many of them have been hired? And to me,
this would be a immediate hey, you don't really belong
in the intelligence services scenario.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, Well, what deis meant is hiring a lot of
insane people like this. But that's a whole other part
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
All right, we talked about the Washington Post and Jeff
Bezos having in some way a moment of recognition that
maybe Trump wasn't such a bad guy. And I don't
know if you read this article, Buck, but there were reports.
We know Bezos was at the inauguration. We know Bezos's girlfriend,
(19:15):
Lauren Sanchez basically wore a bra to the inauguration. As
we said on the show, brought her own booby trap
to the inauguration caught Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook CEO with that
booby trap in photos, But there hadn't been really knowledge
of when the Bezos Trump relationship got repaired in some sense.
(19:40):
And Buck the reporters out there that Bezos called Trump
soon after the assassination attempt, said that he was impressed
with Trump's reaction, which I do think we can talk
about for a second here in a moment, but that
he wanted Doug Bergham to be the vice president, and
(20:00):
Doug Bergham set up the call between Bezos and Trump
so that Bezos could tell Trump, Hey, Burgham's a guy
that makes sense. He would be a good VP choice. Okay, Now,
I do believe that in the years to come, Buck,
and you and I nailed this on July fifteenth from Milwaukee,
right after it happened, right after the assassination attempt happened.
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I think the Trump response the fight, fight fight. There
are going to be statues everywhere that is going to
become I truly do believe this more iconic in the
decades ahead than it even is right now. But I
think a lot of men in particular, and many women
as well, became Trump's supporters in the immediate aftermath of
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the way he responded to that assassination attempt. And I
think Bezos is one. I think Zuckerberg is one. I
think it jolted a lot of people out of Trump
is just a television guy who is on a performance
art to this guy's willing to die for what he
believes in. And I don't know how you could be
trust tested more in the crucible of life and death
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as a politician than what happened to him in Butler, Pennsylvania.
So there are reports that Bezos reached out to Trump
and they had conversations starting in July, and we didn't
really know about that until it got to November, when
Bezos said, hey, we're not going to be endorsing. I
think Bezos became a Trump guy in July of twenty
(21:30):
twenty four after that assassination attempt. You buy in theory,
into that idea, or you rejected.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I'm partially there with you. I'm not sure that I wouldn't.
I would never describe Bezos as a Trump guy. I
just mean that he voted for him.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
When I say Trump guy, I mean he chose I
think he voted in November for Trump. So I think
that's I think that's an important distinction right for our purposes,
because I think he probably still disagrees with a number
of Trump policy directives. I can just tell you, I
think Bezos is pretty close to an open borders guy.
All these tech guys just love being able to particularly
(22:09):
use the H one B scam to get people from
all over the world to come and work for lower
wages than they otherwise would, and they get to build
up the stock price, etc. So I think that Bezos
recognized that the Democrats. Remember it wasn't just that the
Democrats lied to everybody about Biden. They lied to everybody
about Biden and then elevated a catastrophically incompetent and laughable candidate.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
That is what actually happened. And any objective person in
that whole scenario who's open to new evidence could see that. Right.
So I think Bezos, you know, right now, he leans
a little in the Trump direction, but I don't think
that he I don't think anyone can trust him. I
think he's got a lot of elon envy two. And
then I think that you have Zuckerberg, who is purely
(22:55):
where the wind is blowing on this or because I
don't think he's a leader. I don't think he's a
guy of particular backbone, and so he'll just do whatever.
But they are rational, high IQ people, right, and they
can see what's going on. And the Democrat Party, it's
not just that there's a contingent of the Democrat Party
that is insane. The craziest Democrats were the ones calling
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the shots while Biden was in office, and that was
the bait and switch that I think enraged because Biden
was supposed to be the old school moderate Democrat and
what they got was AOC policies under this puppet of
Joe Biden, doddering and you know, trying to maneuver off
stage in one piece, and everyone just realized what a
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preposterous joke it was. I want to play cut eight
here because this is former Washington Post executive editor Marty
barn saying Bezos is taking ownership of the newspaper he owns.
By the way, all Bezos said this week was that
they're going to now focus their Washington Post opinion pages
on freedom and the support of market based economics, basically
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capitalism and freedom.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's all he said. Buck. Here is Marty Baron losing
his mind over what Jeff Bezos is doing. Listen to
cut a obviously note about this.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Only his point of view is going to be represented
on those pages. And that really is a betrayal of
the heritage of the Washington Post, and I think a
betrayal of the very idea of free expression. And it
actually can contrast to how newspapers news organizations honored free
expression with a variety of points of view, it actually
dishonors free expression, which is the most fundamental personal liberty
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of American citizens. This is really an anti democratic move.
It says that, no, the only opinion that is permitted
here is my opinion, and you have to share that,
and there's no room for you on my page. Is
if you have an opposing point of view that is
anti democratic in nature.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
All right, I ran until I sold out, kickbuck out.
Kick Jeff Bezos paid two hundred and fifty million dollars
to buy the Washington Post. He should be, in my opinion,
intimately involved in setting the agenda for that newspaper. That
is an anti democratic that's pro capitalism. When you own
(25:22):
a company, the very foundation of owning a company is
you set the agenda. I I the idea that you
would and I give credit to Bezos for finally stepping forward, buck,
but the idea that you would employ a thousand journalist
and that you would cow tow and bend the need
(25:43):
of them when they're upset about the trajectory you want
to take the business. Excuse me, he's the owner of
the company. If you don't like it, leave all right.
Like this is where I got Bezos's back one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
This is there's a common thread here that goes through
the old big newspapers, the federal bureaucracy, now the university system.
And the threat is these are supposed to be objective,
neutral spaces. This is what they tell us. They tell
us that these are objective and neutral spaces, neutral politically, right,
(26:19):
And I know that that's laughable, but I'll just let
me finish. They tell us this while we know that
they are completely dominated by one side politically and have
become little fiefdoms of that political party. But there's always
been this facade, and they've kept it up because it's
a way of you know, evading the opposition.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Not oh, I'm just a journalist, man, I'm just reporting facts.
Like we're just all about free expression. Washington posts about
free expression. Where were they when Facebook was censoring and
Twitter was censoring all intelligent commentary about COVID?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Where were there editorials saying that that was an absolute
betrayal of the first moment. That's shutting down churches was
an absolute betrayal the first. These people are clowns. They
live in some alternate universe. They might as well think
that they're in North Korea. As far as I'm concerned.
They are completely delusional. And this guy, what he's saying
(27:12):
just makes just makes no sense. It's like he's been
asleep for the last ten years. They have dominated, they
have pushed an agenda, and now Jeff Bezos is just
trying to push it back toward the center a little bit,
just a little bit, and they're and they're crying about
it like the little babies that they are.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Which is exactly what an owner should do. And the
whole purpose of having ownership of something is you are
the decider. Bezos bought the Washington Post all of these
whiney writer I got a lot of words I want
to use that believe that they have the right to
have a job to write whatever they want and that
(27:51):
the owner has to pay them, and if he disagrees
with the trajectory of the business, he's not allowed to
speak out about it. I look, this is what I've
been calling for Bezos to do for a long time.
Buck is, just try to return the paper to some
form of normalcy, right, just have a paper that's common sense.
I'm not saying that you or I is going to
(28:11):
agree with everything in the Washington Post. We shouldn't, but
I shouldn't get to the opinion page, and every opinion
shouldn't be America sucks and capitalism is awful and Trump
is literally hitler. I'm sorry, that's not a business I
would want to run. And I I tend to break
from a lot of people in even in the media
(28:33):
on this issue. I mean, if you go back to
the time of the American Founding, go back to when
the amendments are ratified, newspapers were rapidly partisan, explicitly. I
wrote in one of my books, you go back and
go back and you know, read about like, you know,
the American Aurora. I mean, go back and look at
(28:55):
you know, the Independent Chronicle, look at these different uh,
you know papers at the time of the Founding they
were in favor of certain candidates, in favor of a
certain party, in favor of a certain ideology. And what's
fascinating is that with the rise of mass media and
the ability for corporations to control the message in a way.
(29:17):
You know, anyone can have a printing press more or less,
but not everybody's going to have access to the radio,
air waves to TV. In the twentieth century is when
we came up with this idea. And it's really post
World War two, of there's an objective news media, Walter Cronkite,
we can trust this is there a bunch of libs.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
This was the Brown University faculty lounge, pretending that they
don't have an opinion while they're presenting the news to you. Now,
it has gotten worse over the last twenty years, it's
gotten more obvious. But it was never objective. I mean,
this is I just think everybody's understand that was always
a fiction. Was totally a fiction.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You know what, it was a really lucrative fiction because
if you study the history of American media, the reason
why they started saying, hey, we're going to do all
the news that's fit to print. For instance, at the
New York Times was because you could sell way more
advertising dollars if you got the largest possible circulation.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
There's also an advantage. It's like claiming you're an expert
when you're giving testimony in court. Right all this person's
an expert. They have to be waited more thoroughly, more
strongly in whatever they say. The journals, the journal industrial
complex has done this thing New York Times, Washington Post, CNN,
et cetera. They've done this thing where they try to
(30:34):
tell people we're just down the middle, we don't have
a point of view, while constantly feeding a point of view,
while constantly beating the propaganda drum.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And it's more effective. That's why they do it.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
It also means that they don't have to deal with
people like you and me, or at least not the
same way arguing with them, because they say, we're just reporting.
We're just reporting, we're not actually making editorial decisions. And
as you and I both know well and I've talked about,
it's critical. The biggest editorial decision is what you talk about.
That's bigger even than how you talk about it and
your assessments and your analysis, what you do and what
(31:09):
you don't think is important, important enough to spend your
time on and spend your platform on. That's the biggest,
single one. And so the notion that any of these
places we're doing anything other than propaganda for for decades
is just a fantasy. And I'm glad the fantasy has
been shattered. Which is also why I think the White
House correspondence thing. Why should we let some carked heel
(31:30):
of of you know, imbeciles decide who gets access to
the president for the purposes of reporting. Oh, because they're
better at it, because they've been doing I totally disagree
with that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I totally amen.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
All right, Look I told you was happening, and last
night it happened. I got out my cast diron. I
got it. I mean so hot that the smoke was
coming off it or steam.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I was actually smoking. Smoke's coming off I've got that
cast iron. And I had tempered my delicious ribbi from
our friends at Good Ranchers Carry and I and a
friend we all had a steak feast last night here,
I mean a perfect seer.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Let me tell you.
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Keep doing what you're doing. One of the only things
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Speaker 3 (35:00):
Piece Jason, we are honored. Thank you so much. Great
to be able to hang out with you up there,
And don't worry, we'll keep you company while that communist
Kathy Hochel tries to ruin the Empire State, and Andrew
Cuomo tries to become the next mayor.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
We got him covered. Clay, Yeah, I'm working guy and
gal out there that have jobs you don't like. Everybody's
been through a job you didn't particularly like at some point.
If we could make the day pass a little bit
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We really appreciate you guys, and we hope we make
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Speaker 4 (35:38):
Hey, guys, that is one of the comment on something
you said in the last hour. I had a good
friend from college who early on in his career after graduating,
was a campaign manager for a congressman in southern Ohio.
And he told me, and it really enlightened me that
when you're a Democrat in Congress, he said, you go
in as an intern. You basically stay in that and
work your way up in different positions career. And they
(36:00):
said for Republicans, you come in, you intern, you get connected,
you book relationships, you go get a real job, worked
that for five ten years, and then come back and
run for office, and you have real world experience. And
I thought, wow, that is spot on and really shows
me a lot of what's going on today.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
It's a great point, and Buck, you and I have
hammered this. I would love if everybody who represented us
in Congress or in the Senate, or in our respective
governor's offices had done something that is a normal person existence,
had had some success in life and was trying to
give back, not to be a permanent politician forever. Unfortunately,
(36:35):
there are a lot of permanent politicians, and that's on us.
When we come back. Get Spicy on the show, Ryan
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