March 7, 2025 • 27 mins
In this episode, Tudor speaks with political commentator Ryan Girdusky about various pressing issues in global politics, particularly focusing on the situation in Ukraine, the dynamics within the Democratic Party, and the rising interest in faith among young people. They discuss the implications of current political narratives, the challenges facing the Democratic leadership, and the potential for a resurgence of Christianity among younger generations. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Today we have the newest member of the Clay and
Buck podcast network with us, Ryan Gerdowski, and he hosts
a weekly podcast called a Numbers Game. He is a
political commentator who authored the book They're not listening How
the Elites created the National Populist Revolution. And they're not
listening Ryan, I mean, we're watching this just this week.
(00:25):
How insane it was to see what they did at
the congressional address that the president had. I want to
call it the State of the Union. It's not a
state of the Union. He came and he addressed Congress
and they were ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That was the most raucous thing I've ever seen. But
also the fact is, like, look at the conversation about
Europe and Ukraine in the last couple of weeks. There
are serious commentators, serious people who spend their whole entire
lives hating Trump, who are foreign policy analysts. We're sitting
there and saying Germany and Italy and France and Japan
(01:02):
they could be the new leaders of Western liberalism. And
you want to be like, how delusional are you? Like
where is your brain going? Because none of these countries
won have enough young men have a military the size
of America. None of them have enough young men to
create a military the size of America. And the whole
world is propped up, the whole neoliberal global project is
(01:25):
propped up on American welfare state, American USAD, American trade policy,
the American navy, keeping the keeping the seaways clear and
an empty or a safe for other All this is
depending on America. The whole world is an American welfare state.
And so the idea that Germany is going to sit
(01:45):
there in and do it Germany, I mean with who
all their Turkish migrants, that's who's going to sit there
and be the you know, the German military defend the
Ukrainian borders. It is delusional on like such a level.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, in Italy has a huge population problem. I mean
you talk about nine having enough young men. They actually
it's interesting because they did universal basic income in Italy.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It was a complete disaster.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It turns out that if you give people money for
not working, and they it was a situation where I
think it was you had to stay in your parents'
house until you were.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Thirty, So all of these people didn't work.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They got universal basic income they stayed at their in
their parents' house until they were thirty, didn't date, didn't
get married, and then in their forties finally got married
and couldn't end up having kids. So now they have
a huge population problem because it turns out giving away
money doesn't actually work. It doesn't make good good stewards
of money, and it doesn't make good members of society.
So you're exactly right that that was never going to happen.
(02:42):
But I find it fascinating that we went through probably
like you know, several days of the mainstream media being
like he has destroyed the situation with Ukraine and Russia.
He embarrassed Zelenski, he bullied him, he's a friend of Putin's.
And then I think it's like so true for him
to stand up in front of that room. Just read
(03:03):
the letter from Zelenski that's like, hey man, I'm going
to come to the table, I'm ready to make a deal.
Doesn't say sorry but everything but sorry for being in
total dick in the White House, and Trump just reads it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He doesn't say like I told you so anything, Hey
I got hey, I got this letter.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm like, he is so perfect at the way he
manages the show of all of it, because he is.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
The only person in the room who sometimes remembers we
are the United States of America. We are the indispensable
global nation. There is no plan be out there, like
who are they going They're going to turn to, you know, France.
I mean the joke writes itself to run its own military.
So I mean this is there was no other way
around it. And I think the situation Ukraine is so
(03:48):
important because this is something that Vice President Vance talks
about a lot. And I used to work with Vice
President of Van so like he's very thoughtful in this manner.
But they are losing so many people in this world.
What is the point of having Ukrainian borders Without Ukrainian people,
there will be no people left. I mean, it is
a crisis situation like you cannot imagine. It's going to
(04:11):
be the biggest global downfall of a human population, the
global demographic winter, the biggest immigraphic winter in Western history
since World War Two in one country. They won't be
able to sussiting that they'd have to literally triple or
quadruple the birth rate in an immediate period of time
(04:32):
in order for that to sit there and make up
for their losses. It's just not going to happen. And
I think that that's a big question worth saying. What
is the point of borders without people?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But that is what is surprising to me about this
crazy liberal side that has just recently changed. It used
to be that the radical left was all about saving
lives and everybody had to be have a great quality
of life, and we had to come in if you
didn't have a good quality of life and give that
to you and make sure everything was fair in all
(05:03):
of this.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But why would you want to extend this war?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Where has the narrative gone off the rails that they
think that if you stop the war right now that
you are on the side of Putin, he wants to
stop the death. I mean, to your point, what do
you do if you run out of people?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
No, it's true. I mean they ask the French for
allegians that they're in step in. No. But the thing
is is that they want this war to continue because
they still think Pudin made Hillary lose the election. That's
what it comes down to. It comes down to the
fact that they still believe Hillary would have won had
it not been for Pudin and Pudin has created this
(05:44):
entire They dislike Putin. Think about this. They dislike Putin
more than they disliked the Chinese Communist Party who created COVID, Yes,
and they didn't like and they dislike you know, Trump
more than they dislike Putin. So this is really where
the mind roten moves and they can't accurately allocate blame.
(06:04):
And the biggest problem of the last twenty five years
of global form policy is that one we've failed to
sit there and stop throwing Russia in with the Soviet
Union because they are not the same thing. But America
has never fought able with Russia. And secondly, right after
the Cold War ended, America's foreign policy was to isolate
(06:24):
Russia and embrace China and bring China into the global community.
And that caused mass devastation. It has caused a mass
de industrialization across the West. We are very dependent on
not only in America but in Western Europe, and they
are a lot less like us culturally than the Russians are.
And that was a big, big, big mistake. And now
(06:45):
twenty five years in thirty years in how do you
recalibrate in any which way possible? I think isolating Putin
has clearly not worked in the long term, and Europe
is dependent on their cheap oil. It is much much better,
so is China. I think much much harder going forward
of how do you create a situation, wells one, a
post Putin situation, because Putin is not going to live forever.
(07:07):
How do you look into the future and sit there
and say we can no longer isolate Russia the same way,
and we cannot let China be the world's manufacturer as
it continue looks towards Taiwan, as it looks towards taking
our vital chip factories and our viral chip manufacturers over
in Taiwan. This is a very very serious issue, and
(07:29):
I think someone has to look forwards instead of backwards
at both the twenty sixteen election and the former USSR
and say, how do we have a new world with
Russia post Putin? Because that's going to happen in the
near future.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And I think that the propaganda arm of the media
has stopped people from being willing to see the fact
that you have to have a relationship like this idea
that presidents don't have a relationship. I mean Obama had
a relationship you've heard that there's been a video recently
going around about Bill Clinton talking about his relig relationship
with President Putin and the discussions that they used to have.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That has to be there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
However, if there's any discussion of this now, this is
suddenly all of the young people get completely riled up.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And I think if you.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Just look at that speech from the other night and
how they acted, the behavior, the shenanigans, and I believe that.
I mean, there was rumor ahead of time that the
Democrats were told, no shenanigans, it's not going to help
us right now.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
The guy just.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Won the popular vote, he just won the electoral college
like he won with a mandate. And if you come
in there and you have all these shenanigans, this is
going to be very embarrassing for the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But they just can't help themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I say that this is the party of I mean,
you've got the geriatric cane Waivers and the mean girls.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And that was like.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
There was so at one point, I said, how many
knes are there? And I don't know how old some
of these people are, but they're so old that their
teeth don't fit anymore. So it's like move in their
mouths where their mouths are shut. It is so strange
to look at. And the thing is is like those
are the last sensible. I mean, Al Green's a little
wild one, but like if you look at like the
eighty year old Democrats and late seventy year old Democrats
(09:13):
and no shame on age, it's an honor to get
to age. But they are in office for a little
too long. But if but if you look at those Democrats,
they are far more sensible than the ones coming up
behind them. Yes, you know Jasmine Crockett sitting they're in
doing TikTok dances with aoc like as they're cooking. It's
very very strange. There's like a lot of noise going on,
and for some reason they keep on saying, Hey, let's
(09:35):
find a you know, a suburban woman who doesn't blink
and make her our spokesperson. And that's like their solution
to like the communication problem. At least the senator from
Michigan I thought, actually a fairly decent job at the response.
But then they had a response to the response and
she was crazy. And then they all took their own
turns I think to this morning giving their response to
(09:57):
the City of Union, and it was just like, Wow,
you guys need to like take a breath and take
a beat and actually have a concise message, because there
is a message for them to sit there and have
on a number of things. But they've kind of like
lost the game. They've lost the narrative. Anyone who doesn't
think the last election that Trump had wasn't a huge victory.
I mean, they're really desperately trying hard to cling on
(10:20):
to some narrative that that just doesn't work anymore.
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(11:41):
is they are used to this attack politics. They are
that the last four years of Joe Biden was very nasty.
He would come out and his speech is his last
State of the Union. There were times when he was
holding up his hands and yelling and he would talk
about Trump endlessly, even though Trump wasn't in office. He
just couldn't let it go. And that was for the
last four years. So I really believe, I mean, I've
(12:04):
thought a lot about the way they acted because that
speech that we saw on Tuesday night was the President
coming out and saying, look, this is the display of
Americans that you have heard about for the past four
years or at least the past two years of us
running for office. And that moved people to say this
(12:25):
country needs a change. It was the personal stories. They
weren't props, they weren't campaign propaganda. These were true Americans
with true American stories. And he didn't come out and
bashed the other side. He came out and he said
these are the stories, this is the follow up on
those stories, and this is how we're going to thank
these people. And I think the Democrats were so used
(12:48):
to hearing Joe Biden come out and go the other
side is bad and this and that and we've got
a save democracy that they walked in there thinking this
was going to be a similar rhetoric.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But it wasn't. It was a very posa. It was
really unifying, and they look like fools.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well, I also think, I mean, if you listen to
like Liberal Conversations Progressive podcast as progressive people, they I mean,
they will say things like we are literally in a
civil war. Nicole Wallace followed up the state of the
you want to say the Union but the Joint Session
of Congress was saying, I hope this, you know, thirteen
year old cancer patient doesn't kill himself after being assaulted
(13:25):
by a Trump supporter. Like they are genuinely off of
their rocker. Like it's and it's not every Democrat. It's
just the spokespeople and these podcast hosts and these Twitter
followers or these Twitch streamers who have these you know,
not immense followings. It's not one hundred million people, but
it's enough to sustain like the talk economy, the economy
(13:46):
of people who wanted to have conversations that make a
living with advertisers with it. You know, they are genuinely
out of their minds. I watched, like two days after
the election, I watched Mary L. Trump's podcast to see
what she's an election day, and they were literally sob
out loud and like having nervous breakdown. It's the greatest
I'm telling you, you want to laugh for three straight hours.
Like they're like before the beginning, they're like, we're gonna
(14:07):
win Florida. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Delusional, but right, right, yeah, but they.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
They're at that they were at that level. They were
at that level for so long and It's kind of
like imagine like a rabbi in ancient Judea who all
of a sudden sees Christ rise from the dead, and
they have to sit there and say, Okay, am I
gonna convert? Or am I gonna and give up everything
I believed in? Or am I gonna just stick to
my old ways? And a lot of them were having
a literal come to Jesus moment of saying, oh man,
(14:34):
you mean cutting off a girl's breast at thirteen is
not a popular idea. How do I deal with that?
Because that's what I've been feeding my twenty five thousand,
thirty thousand fans who pay my bills every single solitary day.
How do I not be this crazy? And they genuinely
cannot and they are just, you know, the loudest men
(14:56):
in the ear. And that's why I think you're seeing
some politicians. I just today, Gavin Knewsome, I was like,
I don't think boys should be in girls' sports. I'm like,
you were attacking Tennessee for banning that just a month
and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So I've taken children away from parents who refuse to
allow surgery.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So you don't get it. You don't get a vote here.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Right exactly. And I think that's them sitting there and
saying how do I, how do I kind of backpedal
now because I was so high on my own supply
for a walk.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But this is where Republicans cannot seed ground because I
watched some of that interview with Charlie Kirk and I
saw and look, I come from a sales background. I
saw exactly what Gavin Newsom was doing. My son loves you,
he wants he wouldn't even go to school today.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You are the one making a difference.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And Charlie says, no, I've got to give the credit
to Donald Trump. No, Charlie, this was a movement you
started well before Donald Trump. And he's smiling. You look
at the body language. If you understand sales man, this
guy is laying it on thick and he's good at
it because he seems really genuine. He is the scariest
politician I believe out there because he can get you
(16:01):
on his side so quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
He's said he romances.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
People, he seduces them with the most exactly that that
was there.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That was their mistake.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
They've got a snake that is very hard to identify,
and they chose to go with the really.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah yes from love Lucy. Yeah, I agree, And I
think that also the fact that here's the thing, but
the coold thing for on the Republican side is that
Democrats will no longer nominate white men to any national ticket.
It's got to be black or women from here on.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
That's what you think. But they seem to like, I mean, look,
they they screwed.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Over everybody to put Joe Biden on, and so I'm
always cautious about that because I think that they they
say that, but then you end up with that guy
that seems like the historical politician. And I do think
that I think the party is slipping because you talk
about the people who are all the cane waivers, and
you've gotten Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi was the most depressing
(17:03):
character in that room the other night to me, because
here's a woman who, regardless of what side of the
aisle you're on, she had a lot of power and
she was a psycho about it. I mean, the stories
about Nancy Pelosi are hardcore, Like you walk into her
office and she pulls out your binder and she's like,
you're gonna do this because I've got this. You know,
she was a cutthroat, scary operator in Washington, probably one
(17:25):
of the most corrupt people. But there she is, looks
like she's chewing her cuds, sitting there in the like
you said, her teeth are all falling out. She's got
her cane. She's desperately trying to hang on to power.
But you don't even I mean, once in a person
her age breaks their hip, it's just not a good
it is. Really, the numbers are not good for you
to live past a year after you've broken your hip,
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and that's just a medical fact. It's very sad. She
looks like she is on the track toward the grave
right now. She's in her eighties. She's what, she's eighty
five years old in a few days now. This is
a woman.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Who should have stepped down. But this is also a
woman who when she had the opportunity, when AOC started
to catch on and the squad came in, and that
was the time for all of that psychotic power that
she had for her to crush that and say this
is not our party. And she screwed it up, and
now she won't let it go.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
She did slap down a lot of the squad and
not enough. Well, I mean their numbers are lower. The
Jamal Bowman lost and she didn't do anything to lift
him up. The other girl from Corey Bush lost, she
didn't do anything to help her. She definitely recognizes the
problems of them being around. I mean they had a
conversation Ellin Omar after she said a nine to eleven
(18:39):
was a thing that happened, Like she's done, I think
enough to dance around it. But at a certain point,
the party moves past you. Yeah, and I think that
the party moved past or sometimes you are staying too
long at the fair, and I think maybe she stayed
a little long with her, but I mean to her
kind of credit though. I mean, look at the guy
(19:01):
who's Hakeem Jeffries. He's no Nancy Pelosi. No, he could
not whip people and to sit there and say, Okay,
you're gonna give up your houseie because you're gonna vote
for Obamacare whether you like it or not. He would
never be able to sit there and do that. He
doesn't inspire that kind of confidence. And I think that
the idea of what who represents the future of the
Democratic Party, you know, I don't know. Bernie Sanders, who's
(19:21):
like one hundred and seventy seven, is doing like a
road tour right now, so maybe that's like, maybe that's
just gonna be it for me right now, Like Bernie
will just keep living and just keep doing like his
whole thing every four eight years. Like I don't know,
but I mean, he's the one I think out there
sitting there having a real conversation for Democrats where they're at.
I don't I mean, I don't really know. It's not
(19:42):
gonna be Gretchen Wiltman Whitmer who's gotten botox like the
m degree that she's gonna pop. It's not gonna be
Gavin Newsom. It's not gonna be Josh bar they hate Jews.
Maybe be Wes Moore. Did. They have a serious leadership
problem is who's going to be the face of the
party going forward, And a lot of people want it
to be just somebody who screams like, you know, imprison
(20:06):
every imprison Republicans. And they wanted to like Corey Bush
was probably too far to the right for them, and
they and they need a someone to be their leader
and they don't have it yet. And I mean, I
guess we'll see. But that's their big problem is they
don't have a leader or a solid message.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So that takes us too.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I wanted to bring up this the faith issue because
we had seen, we had seen the interest in faith
slowly every year kind of declining, declining Christianity in the
United States. Suddenly that's leveled off. That is a big deal,
and people go, it's just leveled off. No, there has
been a rise in young people seeking out a church,
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seeking out a mass, trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Figure out exactly what the purpose is.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And as you see, I think, I really think since
twenty twenty with the pandemic, people started to go, man,
there's got to be more here. But I think this
idea of what we've seen from Hollywood and that there
is nothing but what is right here in front of
you has led to a lot of lost souls and
that is changing. So what's your take on that?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So on? So I on my podcast The Numbers Game
on the klam Buck Network with you guys, I broke
down the Pew Research Study. The Pew Research Study had
a poll out that found that the number of Americans
identifying as Christian went was flat for the last almost
ten years, which is very unusual because it's been declining
year in the out and the three groups that are
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responsible for that are boomers, Zoomers, and millennials. They've all chilled.
People born in the eighties, people born in the fifties
and sixties, and people born in the odds. In the
two thousands really saw about a five point shift towards
being identified as Christians, but especially among people born between
the year two thousand and two thousand and six. Now
they're praying slightly more than they used to, They're attending
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church slightly more than you used to. They're actually ironically
much more attending church and praying more than people born
in the nineties. But they're identifying as Christian more or
less as a form of identity. As I said there,
and it's young men, primarily young men. It is the
only generation in history where men are more religious than women.
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And I think that part of it is that they're
being culturally Christian, right. They are saying, like I am Christian,
therefore I'm maybe not woke, I am not you know,
like super liberal, I am not, you know, I am
not an ATHEISTU says there wants some of veganism all
the time, like, I am not these things and therefore
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I'm Christian. It doesn't mean they're necessarily attending church or
having or praying daily. But I think a lot of
times that comes along with children, like having kids, and
it starts when you start attending church regularly. But the
doors open to it to them being Christian. It's not
like it was for generalations where it was like, no,
I'm this is all you know, just spaghetti monster in
the sky kind of stuff, where that's where they were
(23:04):
sitting there saying, no, this is all nonsense. They're saying
there's something there, but they haven't formulated a direct relationship
with a singular church or going or practicing it daily.
But they're saying, I am culturally a Christian. This is
how I see myself in the greater context of the country.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So you believe that there is an opportunity for Christians
to kind of seek these people out and say, hey,
come join us.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Do how does that happen?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think that politics has kind of pushed people that
way because I think that people, I mean, I even
think that people saw what happened with Donald Trump and
the assassination attempt, and went, how could that have happened?
I think there were some people at that point that said,
there's got to be something else.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, I think that just shows that you're all young.
I mean in the post in the post election now
is as everyone said, look at Barstool Sports, look at
Joe Rogan. This is how look at you know, Tim
Dillon or Andrew Schultz. This is why young men became conservative,
every Republican, especially like younger white men. And none of
those men are religious, none of those who are religious
(24:11):
at all. And I think that for every kind of
conversation about like those people that they were having with
the Joe Rogan's of the world, there is you know,
Ben Shapiro and the whole Daily Wire squad. They thought
of their religion and their multitudes of different kinds of
religions a lot. There's that Canadian writer whose name I
always forget it. He's not for me, but his wife
just converted to Catholicism. I think that she had a
(24:32):
like recent death scare and I'm blanking on his name,
of course is a big best the Ten Reasons of
Life or whatever. Guy, But there. There's a father, Mike Schmidtz.
He's a Catholic priest. He had one of the biggest
podcasts you know, in the country, which is like a
Bible in a year and Catechism in a year. There
are people on alternative media that you can go seek
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out for reason, logic, truth and faith that are not
part of you know, the even like the Netflix shows
or the or the streamers or the other stuff streaming services,
or forget about basic cable or you know, the major platforms,
the major companies that sit there and make movies and
stuff like that. There are very few that are doing that.
(25:13):
There are more, there's like Angel films and stuff like
that now. But there are a lot of people on
the Internet who talk about faith, who talk about this,
that are reaching out and hearing, and young men are
hearing them. And they don't all just go to like
the Joe Rogan Barstool Sports, you know, comedian world. They
are literally looking for something real in this entire conversational politics,
(25:36):
in this conversation of what is to be an American. They're
looking for something authentic. And I think that that because
they are searching and they're just not writing it all
off they're not all as nihilistic as maybe, like you
know gen x as were they are sitting there that
that opens the opportunity to a future where once they
get married and they have kids, going to church to
be part of it, going to religious schooling for their
children to be part of it. Like those things are
(25:57):
all potential for the future. And it does doesn't have
to be this n word, you know, slope towards Gomora,
Like that doesn't have to be the future.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, I mean, I think that that's what we are
hoping to see, and that's what we pray about regularly,
is for young people to come. I mean, that's what
I just had this conversation with my daughter.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
The other day.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
She was like, what if it's hard for me to
find a husband, what if it's just a struggle to
find somebody that's good? And I said, this is why
you pray about it, Like this is something that you
are This is a good question for God.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Pray to him. But that is kind of if not,
Mom will take care of No, I'm just kidding. Don't worry.
We've got this.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
No. No, I think that God's got this. But I
think it's fascinating and I want to welcome you to
the network. I'm so excited that you are a part
of it. We watch what you do. It's been amazing
and I think you've got a great voice out there.
So Ryan Gardusky, thank you so much for coming on today.
Thanks Tutor, absolutely, thank you all for joining us on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, you can check us
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us next time.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Have a blessing.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Today we have the newest member of the Clay and
Buck podcast network with us, Ryan Gerdowski, and he hosts
a weekly podcast called a Numbers Game. He is a
political commentator who authored the book They're not listening How
the Elites created the National Populist Revolution. And they're not
listening Ryan, I mean, we're watching this just this week.
(00:25):
How insane it was to see what they did at
the congressional address that the president had. I want to
call it the State of the Union. It's not a
state of the Union. He came and he addressed Congress
and they were ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That was the most raucous thing I've ever seen. But
also the fact is, like, look at the conversation about
Europe and Ukraine in the last couple of weeks. There
are serious commentators, serious people who spend their whole entire
lives hating Trump, who are foreign policy analysts. We're sitting
there and saying Germany and Italy and France and Japan
(01:02):
they could be the new leaders of Western liberalism. And
you want to be like, how delusional are you? Like
where is your brain going? Because none of these countries
won have enough young men have a military the size
of America. None of them have enough young men to
create a military the size of America. And the whole
world is propped up, the whole neoliberal global project is
(01:25):
propped up on American welfare state, American USAD, American trade policy,
the American navy, keeping the keeping the seaways clear and
an empty or a safe for other All this is
depending on America. The whole world is an American welfare state.
And so the idea that Germany is going to sit
(01:45):
there in and do it Germany, I mean with who
all their Turkish migrants, that's who's going to sit there
and be the you know, the German military defend the
Ukrainian borders. It is delusional on like such a level.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, in Italy has a huge population problem. I mean
you talk about nine having enough young men. They actually
it's interesting because they did universal basic income in Italy.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It was a complete disaster.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It turns out that if you give people money for
not working, and they it was a situation where I
think it was you had to stay in your parents'
house until you were.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Thirty, So all of these people didn't work.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They got universal basic income they stayed at their in
their parents' house until they were thirty, didn't date, didn't
get married, and then in their forties finally got married
and couldn't end up having kids. So now they have
a huge population problem because it turns out giving away
money doesn't actually work. It doesn't make good good stewards
of money, and it doesn't make good members of society.
So you're exactly right that that was never going to happen.
(02:42):
But I find it fascinating that we went through probably
like you know, several days of the mainstream media being
like he has destroyed the situation with Ukraine and Russia.
He embarrassed Zelenski, he bullied him, he's a friend of Putin's.
And then I think it's like so true for him
to stand up in front of that room. Just read
(03:03):
the letter from Zelenski that's like, hey man, I'm going
to come to the table, I'm ready to make a deal.
Doesn't say sorry but everything but sorry for being in
total dick in the White House, and Trump just reads it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He doesn't say like I told you so anything, Hey
I got hey, I got this letter.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm like, he is so perfect at the way he
manages the show of all of it, because he is.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
The only person in the room who sometimes remembers we
are the United States of America. We are the indispensable
global nation. There is no plan be out there, like
who are they going They're going to turn to, you know, France.
I mean the joke writes itself to run its own military.
So I mean this is there was no other way
around it. And I think the situation Ukraine is so
(03:48):
important because this is something that Vice President Vance talks
about a lot. And I used to work with Vice
President of Van so like he's very thoughtful in this manner.
But they are losing so many people in this world.
What is the point of having Ukrainian borders Without Ukrainian people,
there will be no people left. I mean, it is
a crisis situation like you cannot imagine. It's going to
(04:11):
be the biggest global downfall of a human population, the
global demographic winter, the biggest immigraphic winter in Western history
since World War Two in one country. They won't be
able to sussiting that they'd have to literally triple or
quadruple the birth rate in an immediate period of time
(04:32):
in order for that to sit there and make up
for their losses. It's just not going to happen. And
I think that that's a big question worth saying. What
is the point of borders without people?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But that is what is surprising to me about this
crazy liberal side that has just recently changed. It used
to be that the radical left was all about saving
lives and everybody had to be have a great quality
of life, and we had to come in if you
didn't have a good quality of life and give that
to you and make sure everything was fair in all
(05:03):
of this.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But why would you want to extend this war?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Where has the narrative gone off the rails that they
think that if you stop the war right now that
you are on the side of Putin, he wants to
stop the death. I mean, to your point, what do
you do if you run out of people?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
No, it's true. I mean they ask the French for
allegians that they're in step in. No. But the thing
is is that they want this war to continue because
they still think Pudin made Hillary lose the election. That's
what it comes down to. It comes down to the
fact that they still believe Hillary would have won had
it not been for Pudin and Pudin has created this
(05:44):
entire They dislike Putin. Think about this. They dislike Putin
more than they disliked the Chinese Communist Party who created COVID, Yes,
and they didn't like and they dislike you know, Trump
more than they dislike Putin. So this is really where
the mind roten moves and they can't accurately allocate blame.
(06:04):
And the biggest problem of the last twenty five years
of global form policy is that one we've failed to
sit there and stop throwing Russia in with the Soviet
Union because they are not the same thing. But America
has never fought able with Russia. And secondly, right after
the Cold War ended, America's foreign policy was to isolate
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Russia and embrace China and bring China into the global community.
And that caused mass devastation. It has caused a mass
de industrialization across the West. We are very dependent on
not only in America but in Western Europe, and they
are a lot less like us culturally than the Russians are.
And that was a big, big, big mistake. And now
(06:45):
twenty five years in thirty years in how do you
recalibrate in any which way possible? I think isolating Putin
has clearly not worked in the long term, and Europe
is dependent on their cheap oil. It is much much better,
so is China. I think much much harder going forward
of how do you create a situation, wells one, a
post Putin situation, because Putin is not going to live forever.
(07:07):
How do you look into the future and sit there
and say we can no longer isolate Russia the same way,
and we cannot let China be the world's manufacturer as
it continue looks towards Taiwan, as it looks towards taking
our vital chip factories and our viral chip manufacturers over
in Taiwan. This is a very very serious issue, and
(07:29):
I think someone has to look forwards instead of backwards
at both the twenty sixteen election and the former USSR
and say, how do we have a new world with
Russia post Putin? Because that's going to happen in the
near future.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And I think that the propaganda arm of the media
has stopped people from being willing to see the fact
that you have to have a relationship like this idea
that presidents don't have a relationship. I mean Obama had
a relationship you've heard that there's been a video recently
going around about Bill Clinton talking about his relig relationship
with President Putin and the discussions that they used to have.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That has to be there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
However, if there's any discussion of this now, this is
suddenly all of the young people get completely riled up.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And I think if you.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Just look at that speech from the other night and
how they acted, the behavior, the shenanigans, and I believe that.
I mean, there was rumor ahead of time that the
Democrats were told, no shenanigans, it's not going to help
us right now.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
The guy just.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Won the popular vote, he just won the electoral college
like he won with a mandate. And if you come
in there and you have all these shenanigans, this is
going to be very embarrassing for the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But they just can't help themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I say that this is the party of I mean,
you've got the geriatric cane Waivers and the mean girls.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And that was like.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
There was so at one point, I said, how many
knes are there? And I don't know how old some
of these people are, but they're so old that their
teeth don't fit anymore. So it's like move in their
mouths where their mouths are shut. It is so strange
to look at. And the thing is is like those
are the last sensible. I mean, Al Green's a little
wild one, but like if you look at like the
eighty year old Democrats and late seventy year old Democrats
(09:13):
and no shame on age, it's an honor to get
to age. But they are in office for a little
too long. But if but if you look at those Democrats,
they are far more sensible than the ones coming up
behind them. Yes, you know Jasmine Crockett sitting they're in
doing TikTok dances with aoc like as they're cooking. It's
very very strange. There's like a lot of noise going on,
and for some reason they keep on saying, Hey, let's
(09:35):
find a you know, a suburban woman who doesn't blink
and make her our spokesperson. And that's like their solution
to like the communication problem. At least the senator from
Michigan I thought, actually a fairly decent job at the response.
But then they had a response to the response and
she was crazy. And then they all took their own
turns I think to this morning giving their response to
(09:57):
the City of Union, and it was just like, Wow,
you guys need to like take a breath and take
a beat and actually have a concise message, because there
is a message for them to sit there and have
on a number of things. But they've kind of like
lost the game. They've lost the narrative. Anyone who doesn't
think the last election that Trump had wasn't a huge victory.
I mean, they're really desperately trying hard to cling on
(10:20):
to some narrative that that just doesn't work anymore.
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is they are used to this attack politics. They are
that the last four years of Joe Biden was very nasty.
He would come out and his speech is his last
State of the Union. There were times when he was
holding up his hands and yelling and he would talk
about Trump endlessly, even though Trump wasn't in office. He
just couldn't let it go. And that was for the
last four years. So I really believe, I mean, I've
(12:04):
thought a lot about the way they acted because that
speech that we saw on Tuesday night was the President
coming out and saying, look, this is the display of
Americans that you have heard about for the past four
years or at least the past two years of us
running for office. And that moved people to say this
(12:25):
country needs a change. It was the personal stories. They
weren't props, they weren't campaign propaganda. These were true Americans
with true American stories. And he didn't come out and
bashed the other side. He came out and he said
these are the stories, this is the follow up on
those stories, and this is how we're going to thank
these people. And I think the Democrats were so used
(12:48):
to hearing Joe Biden come out and go the other
side is bad and this and that and we've got
a save democracy that they walked in there thinking this
was going to be a similar rhetoric.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But it wasn't. It was a very posa. It was
really unifying, and they look like fools.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well, I also think, I mean, if you listen to
like Liberal Conversations Progressive podcast as progressive people, they I mean,
they will say things like we are literally in a
civil war. Nicole Wallace followed up the state of the
you want to say the Union but the Joint Session
of Congress was saying, I hope this, you know, thirteen
year old cancer patient doesn't kill himself after being assaulted
(13:25):
by a Trump supporter. Like they are genuinely off of
their rocker. Like it's and it's not every Democrat. It's
just the spokespeople and these podcast hosts and these Twitter
followers or these Twitch streamers who have these you know,
not immense followings. It's not one hundred million people, but
it's enough to sustain like the talk economy, the economy
(13:46):
of people who wanted to have conversations that make a
living with advertisers with it. You know, they are genuinely
out of their minds. I watched, like two days after
the election, I watched Mary L. Trump's podcast to see
what she's an election day, and they were literally sob
out loud and like having nervous breakdown. It's the greatest
I'm telling you, you want to laugh for three straight hours.
Like they're like before the beginning, they're like, we're gonna
(14:07):
win Florida. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Delusional, but right, right, yeah, but they.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
They're at that they were at that level. They were
at that level for so long and It's kind of
like imagine like a rabbi in ancient Judea who all
of a sudden sees Christ rise from the dead, and
they have to sit there and say, Okay, am I
gonna convert? Or am I gonna and give up everything
I believed in? Or am I gonna just stick to
my old ways? And a lot of them were having
a literal come to Jesus moment of saying, oh man,
(14:34):
you mean cutting off a girl's breast at thirteen is
not a popular idea. How do I deal with that?
Because that's what I've been feeding my twenty five thousand,
thirty thousand fans who pay my bills every single solitary day.
How do I not be this crazy? And they genuinely
cannot and they are just, you know, the loudest men
(14:56):
in the ear. And that's why I think you're seeing
some politicians. I just today, Gavin Knewsome, I was like,
I don't think boys should be in girls' sports. I'm like,
you were attacking Tennessee for banning that just a month
and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So I've taken children away from parents who refuse to
allow surgery.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So you don't get it. You don't get a vote here.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Right exactly. And I think that's them sitting there and
saying how do I, how do I kind of backpedal
now because I was so high on my own supply
for a walk.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But this is where Republicans cannot seed ground because I
watched some of that interview with Charlie Kirk and I
saw and look, I come from a sales background. I
saw exactly what Gavin Newsom was doing. My son loves you,
he wants he wouldn't even go to school today.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You are the one making a difference.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And Charlie says, no, I've got to give the credit
to Donald Trump. No, Charlie, this was a movement you
started well before Donald Trump. And he's smiling. You look
at the body language. If you understand sales man, this
guy is laying it on thick and he's good at
it because he seems really genuine. He is the scariest
politician I believe out there because he can get you
(16:01):
on his side so quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
He's said he romances.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
People, he seduces them with the most exactly that that
was there.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That was their mistake.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
They've got a snake that is very hard to identify,
and they chose to go with the really.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah yes from love Lucy. Yeah, I agree, And I
think that also the fact that here's the thing, but
the coold thing for on the Republican side is that
Democrats will no longer nominate white men to any national ticket.
It's got to be black or women from here on.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
That's what you think. But they seem to like, I mean, look,
they they screwed.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Over everybody to put Joe Biden on, and so I'm
always cautious about that because I think that they they
say that, but then you end up with that guy
that seems like the historical politician. And I do think
that I think the party is slipping because you talk
about the people who are all the cane waivers, and
you've gotten Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi was the most depressing
(17:03):
character in that room the other night to me, because
here's a woman who, regardless of what side of the
aisle you're on, she had a lot of power and
she was a psycho about it. I mean, the stories
about Nancy Pelosi are hardcore, Like you walk into her
office and she pulls out your binder and she's like,
you're gonna do this because I've got this. You know,
she was a cutthroat, scary operator in Washington, probably one
(17:25):
of the most corrupt people. But there she is, looks
like she's chewing her cuds, sitting there in the like
you said, her teeth are all falling out. She's got
her cane. She's desperately trying to hang on to power.
But you don't even I mean, once in a person
her age breaks their hip, it's just not a good
it is. Really, the numbers are not good for you
to live past a year after you've broken your hip,
(17:46):
and that's just a medical fact. It's very sad. She
looks like she is on the track toward the grave
right now. She's in her eighties. She's what, she's eighty
five years old in a few days now. This is
a woman.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Who should have stepped down. But this is also a
woman who when she had the opportunity, when AOC started
to catch on and the squad came in, and that
was the time for all of that psychotic power that
she had for her to crush that and say this
is not our party. And she screwed it up, and
now she won't let it go.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
She did slap down a lot of the squad and
not enough. Well, I mean their numbers are lower. The
Jamal Bowman lost and she didn't do anything to lift
him up. The other girl from Corey Bush lost, she
didn't do anything to help her. She definitely recognizes the
problems of them being around. I mean they had a
conversation Ellin Omar after she said a nine to eleven
(18:39):
was a thing that happened, Like she's done, I think
enough to dance around it. But at a certain point,
the party moves past you. Yeah, and I think that
the party moved past or sometimes you are staying too
long at the fair, and I think maybe she stayed
a little long with her, but I mean to her
kind of credit though. I mean, look at the guy
(19:01):
who's Hakeem Jeffries. He's no Nancy Pelosi. No, he could
not whip people and to sit there and say, Okay,
you're gonna give up your houseie because you're gonna vote
for Obamacare whether you like it or not. He would
never be able to sit there and do that. He
doesn't inspire that kind of confidence. And I think that
the idea of what who represents the future of the
Democratic Party, you know, I don't know. Bernie Sanders, who's
(19:21):
like one hundred and seventy seven, is doing like a
road tour right now, so maybe that's like, maybe that's
just gonna be it for me right now, Like Bernie
will just keep living and just keep doing like his
whole thing every four eight years. Like I don't know,
but I mean, he's the one I think out there
sitting there having a real conversation for Democrats where they're at.
I don't I mean, I don't really know. It's not
(19:42):
gonna be Gretchen Wiltman Whitmer who's gotten botox like the
m degree that she's gonna pop. It's not gonna be
Gavin Newsom. It's not gonna be Josh bar they hate Jews.
Maybe be Wes Moore. Did. They have a serious leadership
problem is who's going to be the face of the
party going forward, And a lot of people want it
to be just somebody who screams like, you know, imprison
(20:06):
every imprison Republicans. And they wanted to like Corey Bush
was probably too far to the right for them, and
they and they need a someone to be their leader
and they don't have it yet. And I mean, I
guess we'll see. But that's their big problem is they
don't have a leader or a solid message.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So that takes us too.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I wanted to bring up this the faith issue because
we had seen, we had seen the interest in faith
slowly every year kind of declining, declining Christianity in the
United States. Suddenly that's leveled off. That is a big deal,
and people go, it's just leveled off. No, there has
been a rise in young people seeking out a church,
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seeking out a mass, trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Figure out exactly what the purpose is.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And as you see, I think, I really think since
twenty twenty with the pandemic, people started to go, man,
there's got to be more here. But I think this
idea of what we've seen from Hollywood and that there
is nothing but what is right here in front of
you has led to a lot of lost souls and
that is changing. So what's your take on that?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So on? So I on my podcast The Numbers Game
on the klam Buck Network with you guys, I broke
down the Pew Research Study. The Pew Research Study had
a poll out that found that the number of Americans
identifying as Christian went was flat for the last almost
ten years, which is very unusual because it's been declining
year in the out and the three groups that are
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responsible for that are boomers, Zoomers, and millennials. They've all chilled.
People born in the eighties, people born in the fifties
and sixties, and people born in the odds. In the
two thousands really saw about a five point shift towards
being identified as Christians, but especially among people born between
the year two thousand and two thousand and six. Now
they're praying slightly more than they used to, They're attending
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church slightly more than you used to. They're actually ironically
much more attending church and praying more than people born
in the nineties. But they're identifying as Christian more or
less as a form of identity. As I said there,
and it's young men, primarily young men. It is the
only generation in history where men are more religious than women.
(22:22):
And I think that part of it is that they're
being culturally Christian, right. They are saying, like I am Christian,
therefore I'm maybe not woke, I am not you know,
like super liberal, I am not, you know, I am
not an ATHEISTU says there wants some of veganism all
the time, like, I am not these things and therefore
(22:43):
I'm Christian. It doesn't mean they're necessarily attending church or
having or praying daily. But I think a lot of
times that comes along with children, like having kids, and
it starts when you start attending church regularly. But the
doors open to it to them being Christian. It's not
like it was for generalations where it was like, no,
I'm this is all you know, just spaghetti monster in
the sky kind of stuff, where that's where they were
(23:04):
sitting there saying, no, this is all nonsense. They're saying
there's something there, but they haven't formulated a direct relationship
with a singular church or going or practicing it daily.
But they're saying, I am culturally a Christian. This is
how I see myself in the greater context of the country.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So you believe that there is an opportunity for Christians
to kind of seek these people out and say, hey,
come join us.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Do how does that happen?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think that politics has kind of pushed people that
way because I think that people, I mean, I even
think that people saw what happened with Donald Trump and
the assassination attempt, and went, how could that have happened?
I think there were some people at that point that said,
there's got to be something else.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, I think that just shows that you're all young.
I mean in the post in the post election now
is as everyone said, look at Barstool Sports, look at
Joe Rogan. This is how look at you know, Tim
Dillon or Andrew Schultz. This is why young men became conservative,
every Republican, especially like younger white men. And none of
those men are religious, none of those who are religious
(24:11):
at all. And I think that for every kind of
conversation about like those people that they were having with
the Joe Rogan's of the world, there is you know,
Ben Shapiro and the whole Daily Wire squad. They thought
of their religion and their multitudes of different kinds of
religions a lot. There's that Canadian writer whose name I
always forget it. He's not for me, but his wife
just converted to Catholicism. I think that she had a
(24:32):
like recent death scare and I'm blanking on his name,
of course is a big best the Ten Reasons of
Life or whatever. Guy, But there. There's a father, Mike Schmidtz.
He's a Catholic priest. He had one of the biggest
podcasts you know, in the country, which is like a
Bible in a year and Catechism in a year. There
are people on alternative media that you can go seek
(24:52):
out for reason, logic, truth and faith that are not
part of you know, the even like the Netflix shows
or the or the streamers or the other stuff streaming services,
or forget about basic cable or you know, the major platforms,
the major companies that sit there and make movies and
stuff like that. There are very few that are doing that.
(25:13):
There are more, there's like Angel films and stuff like
that now. But there are a lot of people on
the Internet who talk about faith, who talk about this,
that are reaching out and hearing, and young men are
hearing them. And they don't all just go to like
the Joe Rogan Barstool Sports, you know, comedian world. They
are literally looking for something real in this entire conversational politics,
(25:36):
in this conversation of what is to be an American. They're
looking for something authentic. And I think that that because
they are searching and they're just not writing it all
off they're not all as nihilistic as maybe, like you
know gen x as were they are sitting there that
that opens the opportunity to a future where once they
get married and they have kids, going to church to
be part of it, going to religious schooling for their
children to be part of it. Like those things are
(25:57):
all potential for the future. And it does doesn't have
to be this n word, you know, slope towards Gomora,
Like that doesn't have to be the future.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, I mean, I think that that's what we are
hoping to see, and that's what we pray about regularly,
is for young people to come. I mean, that's what
I just had this conversation with my daughter.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
The other day.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
She was like, what if it's hard for me to
find a husband, what if it's just a struggle to
find somebody that's good? And I said, this is why
you pray about it, Like this is something that you
are This is a good question for God.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Pray to him. But that is kind of if not,
Mom will take care of No, I'm just kidding. Don't worry.
We've got this.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
No. No, I think that God's got this. But I
think it's fascinating and I want to welcome you to
the network. I'm so excited that you are a part
of it. We watch what you do. It's been amazing
and I think you've got a great voice out there.
So Ryan Gardusky, thank you so much for coming on today.
Thanks Tutor, absolutely, thank you all for joining us on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, you can check us
(27:01):
out at Tutor Dixon Podcasts dot com, the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and join
us next time.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Have a blessing.
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