March 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Education Secretary Linda McMahon explains department cuts. NYT writes hilarious response. Buck's advice to Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence. Tom Clancy got Buck excited about books. Talkback message points out that Fox is the only network covering the lunatic protesters at Trump Tower in NYC. EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin is cleaning house. Cow farts. Senator Chuck Schumer government shutdown flashback. President Trump meets with NATO Secretary Mark Rutte in the Oval Office. Rutte thanks President Trump for getting European leaders to pay more. Russian President Vladimir Putin has reservations to ceasefire deal, only agrees in principle. Caller Kenny points out that a government shutdown may actually prove DOGE right.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right. Second, now we're Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we've been talking already about the border, immigration, the
protest of lunatics in Trump Tower. They're getting arrested, the
flex cuffs have been going on. You know, no surprise there.
They definitely earned that one. Some of the crazier signs
I've seen it a protest in a while, kind of
up there with the you know, trans students for Palestine,
(00:26):
trans students for Hamas. I don't know if those trans
students really know very much about Hamas. I'll put that
out there. But we've got all that happening, and we've
got more also dive into on the economy.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I will get to that.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I think today is a busy day of things going
on here. Let's talk Department of Education, and we have education.
First of all, the Department Education has gotten a bunch
of cuts. They've had people who are told sorry you
are you are no longer employed here, thirteen hundred employees,
(01:03):
offices were closed. Now, I think it is probably the
case that a lot of Democrats are thinking to them
or a lot of these individuals and Democrats are thinking, well,
the worst is over. It turns out no from their perspective.
I don't think the worst is over. Education Secretary of
McMahon spoke on this This is cut nineteen.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Is this the first step on the road to a
total shutdown? Yes, actually it is, because that was the
president's mandate. This is directive to me. This clearly is
to shut down the Department of Education, which we know
we'll have to work with Congress, you know, to get
that accomplished. But what we did today was to take
the first step of eliminating what I think is bureaucratic bloat.
(01:46):
And that's not to say that a lot of the folks,
you know, it's a humanitarian thing too. A lot of
the folks that are there, you know, they're out of
a job. But we wanted to make sure that we
kept all of the right people and the good people
to make sure that the outward facing programs, the grant,
the appropriations that come from Congress, all of that are
being met and none of that's going to fall through
the crack.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, there you have it. She's saying, straight up, we're
gonna shut this thing down. This is not this is
not just oh they came out. They came out with
this big thing right away.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But things are.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Gonna settle down. No, they're not gonna settle down. They're
gonna try to shut down their work with Congress to
do it. There's some things that still need to get
squared away with the legislative branch, but they're gonna try
to shut down the entire department.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I just thought this was interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That now they're in a position, right the cuts have
been made, as Doge and Trump and Elon and everybody
have been saying they would be there's more coming. But
I mean, they're making these cuts. This is not just rhetorical.
This isn't just to get the base fired up. Now
the New York Times and others are in a position
where they have to explain, well, why do we care
(02:58):
if the Department of Education and has lost thirteen hundred
employees and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What difference does that make to the American people.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
They have to explain this to us, And the New
York Times comes out with this, which I just think
is perfect, unintentionally perfect. Our school succeeding Trump Education department
cuts could make it hard to know. At least eight
I'm reading here from the New York Times, at least
eight hundred Education department, research employees and outside partners have
(03:31):
lost jobs. The cuts will decimate research and collection data.
So we're paying we're paying hundreds of people. We're bringing
hundreds of people to tell us the same thing every
year for the last fifty years, which is no. Nationally,
(03:52):
the education system is not improving. No, the test scores
gap among different student ethnicities has not been closed. No,
test scores of low income students, especially low income students
from non two parent households, have not improved. We got
(04:13):
hundreds of people that are just there to tell us
what we already know. And why can't a state do this?
Why does the federal government have to do some kind
of number crunching about what's going on in schools nationwide
that doesn't really tell us anything. What tells us something is, hey,
in this school district administered by the county or the
(04:35):
state of whatever the state is, here's what's going on.
Returning this to the states makes so much sense. Would
the federal government? Should the federal government be in charge of,
you know, waste management collection in your neighborhood, you know
you want the federal government. No, we all understand that's
a very localized issue, and so that's left up to
(04:56):
municipalities and localities. Why would the federal government think that
it needs to be in the business of education. Well,
as we know, this department was created but a few
decades ago.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And it has done.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
They should be able to scream about what we're going
to miss out on if the Department of Education goes away,
because and they would, as you know, they should be
able to say, oh, you know, if you if you
cut the This is the fireman first theory. Whenever you
try to cut the budget in any city, they go,
we won't have enough firemen, and then you know, the
buildings will all burn down. You go, okay, look we
(05:32):
need firemen, right, so yeah, if you're going to cut
the fireman budget, you know we need cops.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
If you're going to cut those budgets.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
There's a consequence that people can understand, and that's why
we fund those things. That's why there are that's why
there are fire departments and police departments, et cetera. Right,
very straightforward, what are we missing out on if the
Department of Education goes away? Notice, they oh, but we
got people that are looking at the metrics and doing
a cross section of the blah by.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Blah, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
If you can't tell me why an entire department going
away isn't going to be a problem for me, the
department shouldn't exist. I think that's quite clear if you said, hey, buck,
I mean as much as the State Department is a
bunch of now not all of them. And I have
to say this because you know, I know, I know,
(06:26):
I know a few former Marines who became Foreign Service officers,
like you know, there are real patriots where in the
State Department, let's not forget about that. But in general,
it's a left wing, radical, lunatic institution. In general, there's
a lot of that there. And I know because I
used to deal with them when I was in the CIA,
and the CIA was like I mean, even before Trump
came along, we were a lot of US were MAGA
(06:46):
compared to the State Department. All right, State Department and
USAID is like Fidel Castro should have been running that place.
They're so left wing. I don't even know what to say. So,
you know, everybody was left of All these institutions were
left of center. And I'm going back here over a
decade obviously, but CIA was the most center right because
we had the paramilitaries, and we had you know, case
(07:07):
officers and some analysts like me who were conservative, you know,
loved them, loved America.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I didn't think that we were the problem in the world.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Then you go to State Department, a little left of
the CIA, and then you go to USAID, which is
you know, Commieville as we know, just straight straight.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Out of Moscow back in the day.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So with all this though, the State Department, if you
told me, hey, Buck, you know what, let's just get
rid of that, I say, no, no, no, there's a federal
there's a federal need for the state went foreign relations
is a constitutional duty of the federal government. We do
need to have foreign so and that's very straightforward, right
if you if someone came to me and they said,
why why do we need a Department of Justice, Well,
(07:45):
if we're going to have federal law, which we need
to have federal laws, we do need to have some
body that enforces it, not corruptly and for a partisan
agenda like Biden did, but we do need you know,
it's clear, that's why we have it. Thee Department of
of Education, they can't even make the case.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
This New York.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Times article, I read it I'm like, great, get rid
of these people. We don't need them that they do nothing.
They are not helping, you know, they pass out federal
funding grants and things like this. We don't need them
distributing these dollars. Let's let the states take this thing
over and let's get, if anything, more dollars to the
states from the federal government. If that's what Trump and
(08:24):
the Congress decides to do, give it to the states
that can use it better instead of having it pars
through the hands of pass through the hands of bureaucrats
at the Department of Education. But when you have the
head of an agency saying, my mission is to shut
down this agency. The Trump memo has been received. Everybody,
(08:46):
this is real, this is happening. I'm just going to
say this. Tulci Gabbard. I like Tulsi very very a
good lady who I think is going to do a
good job and a patriot and everything else. She should
fix the she should fix the intelligence community as much
as she can, and then she should self destruct the
(09:07):
Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It should not exist. It's a joke.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's just oversight on top of oversight on top of bureaucracy.
There is no need for a DNI. It used to
just be the CIA director was the conduit for the
intelligence that that could be the case again, you don't
need this all right. I mean, I remember being in
the Oval office with I think it was Clapper.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That was a Clapper.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I can't even remember who the Director of National Intelligence
was back under the early days of Obama or early
I'm sorry, latter days of Bush. It's been a long time. Like,
what is this guy even doing here? I don't need it,
you know, showing up in a briefing. I don't need
this guy here. This is ridiculous. So od and I
should go away, NCTC should go away, and the people
who work in these places should find gainful employment. A
(09:53):
lot of them have impressive educational credentials. They've gotten some
interesting experience, and there's a lot of different things that
they could do, you know, maybe go work at DOZE
and help find where the billions of dollars are getting
are disappearing to in some of these fraudulent transactions. Right,
there's plenty of stuff for them to do. And I
think that what we're seeing right now is the Trump
(10:16):
agenda at the Department of Education and these other places
is being enacted, which is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's not rhetoric, it's not just talk. Makes me very happy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
The other thing is you have to remember when it
comes to government bureaucrats, there's the expense and the harassment
of bureaucrats in these places, in these different agencies who
don't need to be there, who aren't really doing anything.
The expense we all understand, right, you're paying salary, health
benefits and all this as a tax payer. The federal
(10:47):
government has gotten way too big, there's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's way too big.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So that expense is being borne by the tax payer.
But then on the harassment side of things, you have
people who want to justify their existence in these roles,
and so they decide, well, I'm going to do stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But this is true.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You go into like fishing fish and wildlife or fishing
game or whatever it's called. You go into a whole
bunch of different you going EPA, Oh, we're going to
talk EPA. In a second. These bureaucrats are showing up,
they're getting paid. You know what they want to do.
They want to tell you what to do, and they
show up with an agenda. They show up with an ideology,
and then they make sure only people get hired and
(11:26):
only people get promoted in these agencies who share that ideology,
which is always left wing, especially at the EPA, especially
at USAID, et cetera. And then they find ways to
implement through the regulatory and rule making powers that they
have at these agencies, which they shouldn't have. They find
a way to say, you know what you're going to
(11:48):
do this now? Oh you you think you're going to
You think you're going to drain that pond in your backyard,
that's a wet land. We'll find you ten thousand dollars
a day. Crazy stuff going on. So there's the cost
of the bureaucrats to the pocketbook and the cost of
the bureaucrats in frustration and time. And that, my friends,
(12:11):
is why getting rid of this nonsense.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Is so important. It's a double whammy.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
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We've got phone calls coming in, We've got talkbacks, we
got vip he emails. I want to get to a
couple of those here. I want to pull up your
talkbacks and I'm going to do that right now. Where
(14:09):
did it go to talk about? Here we go? We
got BB in Worcester, Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Play BB please, Hey Buck, Brian from Worcester, mass Just
as a fellow Clancy fan, I was surprised that while
talking about Trump going after the Cartels, you never referenced
the fantastic Tom Clancy movie Clear in Present Danger, where
the President used an executive order to send our special
forces overseas to wipe out the Cartels. Well, I appreciate
(14:42):
the reminder. Brian from Worcester, listening on news radio five
to eighty there.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I think that of the Clancy film canon, I think
that The Hunt for Red October is the best. I
still think. And yes, I know it's Alec Baldon. We
don't like his politics and all that, but I think
the Hunt for Red October still stands at number one.
Clear and Present Danger though for me is number two,
and I think that clear and Present danger is for
(15:13):
a something that deals with the cartels.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The only thing for.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Me that really gets close to it would be Narcos
on Netflix, Ciccario.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know, I just watched.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Sacario with Kerrie recently, which is a Taylor Sheridan. I
think it's really was not quite his breakthrough. That would
have been wind River, I think, which he wrote and directed,
which was also a good watch. I enjoyed that, But
Sacario I think was probably his bigger I mean that
that really launched him before Yellowstone.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think it was right. So I watched the Caario
and it has.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Some really good elements, But for me, there were some
aspects of Sacario that it could.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Have like he almost did it really well.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know the scene where they're coming back from Mexico
where they have the high high value targeting custody and
there's a it's very cool scene. I thought it could
have been a little bit better, though, I mean, you know,
so I don't want to be I don't want to
be too uh my expectation is too high. But Sacario's
good stuff. Clear and Present Danger, though, is excellent. That
ambush sequence in Clear and Present Danger, and if you
(16:14):
haven't seen it, movie holds up. It's a good movie.
It's a fun watch to this day. Tom Clancy in
the genre was a genius, as you know. You know,
I'm I'm a Clancy Crichton guy. Those were my my
books of my youth that got me excited about books.
They're both fantastic. But yeah, I know the cartel stuff
that I don't think there's I've seen much else that's
(16:35):
really all that good. On the cartels. There was that
movie Savages, which was not good. Cecario two not good,
not good. I don't know what had did Taylor Sarnan
even get involved with that one.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
That one was trash. So you gotta do what you
gotta do to get the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Let's see, we've got another bb New York City listener
CC play it.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Afternoon I gotta tell you right now, as soon as
you broke that news about them occupying Trump Plaza, I
went on the news channels. CNN had nothing, MSNBC had nothing.
Fox News was the only channel that was actually showing
the entire demonstration humiliating, disgusting, and I guarantee you DOJ
(17:19):
is going through the books right now and they're going
to throw these people out of this country.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
If you're here on a visa, don't do dumb stuff
because you're gonna find out. That's the Trump administration has
made that clear, and from what I have seen, they
do have that authority. And so see you later. That's now.
I think there'll probably be a lot of American citizens
in the Trump Tower protests. I don't know, there's a
lot of lunatics who are Americans who care so much
(17:44):
about Palestine. But yeah, of course CNN and MSNBC aren't
covering it because it makes their side look like the
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Trying to keep you up today with all the things
going on now today in Trump world, a flurry of activity.
Tea we've already got let me see, just prepare for this.
It's going to be happening. You're going to be seeing
(19:07):
these headlines throughout A federal judge and I'm I'm I'm
loading this because this news story just came down. A
federal judge has ordered the Trump administation stration to reinstate
tens of thousands of federal workers. US District Judge William
Alsop ordered President Donald Trump's administration to reinstate tens of
(19:27):
thousands of probationary federal employees. He referred in the ruling,
the judge referred to the fire and the mass firings
as unlawful and a sham. Oh okay, this is this
is just madness that they do not have Office of
(19:49):
Personnel Management. This this is not something that a federal
judge should be able to do.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I just want to know.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So, can a federal judge just decide that any thing
that Trump does as president is not allowed. That's we're
getting pretty close to that, aren't we, Like, well, where
where do we draw the lines here? One federal judge
can operate at the same level. We're not talking about
the Supreme Court, which is constitutionally mandated. We're talking about
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a federal judge, a creation of Congress, a creation of Congress,
who is saying the president can't do that. Really, president
can't fire? Why are they probationary employees if they can't
be fired for any reason or no reason because it
is in the interest of the American people as determined
by the executive branch. But the hashtag resistance judges. This
(20:42):
is one thing that Democrats have done that it's smart.
I mean, it's nefarious, but it's smart. They have seeded
the judiciary with as many radical left wing activists as
they possibly can, as fast as they can.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Biden did this, Obama did this. This is this is
what they have.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Been doing, and they're really the only game in town
now for slowing down the Trump machine. Democrats in the Congress, yeah,
you really, you want you want to go to a shutdown.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You want it to be the Schumer shutdown. We'll see
about that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's frustrating, I understand, because it just feels it feels
so lawless. I think for a federal judge to override
the will of seventy five million plus voters who voted
for Donald Trump by saying, oh, you're not allowed to
run the executive branch, as if you're actually running it.
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I mean, how are they within the executive branch if
they aren't in the chain of command and can't be
fired by the person at the top.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
How does that work? Exactly? Do they work for this
federal judge?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Is he in charge of hiring and firing the millions
of federal employees out there. I just want to know
where this where this power that this judge has taken
on for himself stops and starts. All right, Well, let's
let's get back into some other stuff going on here,
which is the situation of the EPA. And Lee Zelden
(22:11):
is doing some great stuff here. I'm seeing also the
the updates on the Trump ceasefire, Russia Ukraine war. Russia
has agreed in principle to go forward with this. We'll
get into that a second. Let me finish our EPA
talk and then stay with me, and I promise I'll
get to Russia Ukraine wars. This is what I'm saying.
(22:34):
There's so much going on right now. You got agency's
being shut down, you got people storming Trump Tower acting
like psychos, you got the left all upset about mood Khalil.
I mean, you know, we got a lot of things,
got deportations happening, We've got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
To keep track of. But the EPA, I gotta say
I love this.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
ABC.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Let me give you the ABC News headline on it,
which I think puts it in a pretty clear context. The
biggest deregulatory action in history. The EPA has rolled out
sweeping moves today aimed at walking back environmental protections and
eliminating a host of climate change regulations, some were decades
(23:19):
in the making. Lee Zelvin has gone into the EPA
and he is cleaning house. He is cleaning house. Uh
not the greenhouse gas emissions. We're not gonna worry about those.
He is cleaning house. It is fantastic. One of the
things that he's going to be doing is looking at
the way that the EPA has decided that it is
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in the climate change religion business, and it's gonna look
at this and say, how exactly is this something? But
first of all, the science on this is wrong, meaning
that the idea that anything that the EPA is going
to do will have any measurable impact whatsoever on global
climate change is insane, insane, It is completely irrational. So
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you're gonna have a lot There are a lot of
ideologues in the EPA civil servants who this is going
to freak them out because they think that their agency.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Imagine this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Imagine you think your life's work is saving the planet
by harassing people about their car emissions or whatever, and
then someone comes along and says, you know that everything
that you've been doing is a fraud and is annoying
and is useless. You're probably not going to like that
person very much. Well, that person is Lee's Elton, and
(24:32):
that is what he is doing right now. So I
think this is fantastic. I want to see more of this.
And they've got to move as fast as they can
on all this stuff. They've got to do what they
can while they can because Democrats are going to start
to catch up on this. Here we go, ABC News.
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This is just in the last twenty four hours series
of actions rule back environmental regulations. We are driving here
we go. We are driving a dagger through the heart
of the of the climate change religion and ushering in
America's golden age. The EPA administrator Lee Zelden says, let
(25:16):
me tell you, we focus a lot with the economy
on cutting and streamlining and doing things that are whether
it's you know, based in employment numbers, tariffs, import export,
job creation, all all the usual things. The artificial headwind
that our economy has from moronic EPA regulations is enormous.
(25:43):
It's completely counterproductive and it all needs to go. Now
this is where they say, what about clean water? Have
I said anything about clean water? I want clean water?
You want clean water? Notice they always change the conversation
to something that you're not opposed to or you're not
having a problem them with. You know, do I think
that the EPA should make sure that people have safe
(26:04):
and clean drinking water?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Do we all want Who doesn't want to be able
to drink clean water from the tap in the United States?
I mean, I would argue that one of the marks
of civilization in twenty twenty five is do you live
in a place where you can drink water out of
the tap safely?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
This is why I have a rule with carry now
now that we're soon to be parents. I used to
go to places where you couldn't even trust the bottled water, really,
but I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
When I was in my CIA days, I would go
wherever they sent me, and I was like, Okay, let's
do it.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
If I can't drink the water out of the tap,
I don't think. I don't think I'm up on vacation.
I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's not for me. But yeah, of course we want
clean water.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Of course we don't want you know, toxic waste in
a But the that's all the old discussion and the
propaganda from the environmentalists to cover for what they really want,
which is the hyper regulatory state that can tell you
what your business can do and what your emissions can be.
All about two CO two. This is the excuse to
(27:06):
put their regulatory boot on your neck for countless issues,
countless issues, and people have had enough of it. Those
of us who are sane and want to see American
prosperity flourishing to its greatest possible extent are saying there
is no more of this. Zelden said quote. He and
(27:27):
President Trump support rewriting the agencies two thousand and nine
findings that planet warming greenhouse gases endanger public health and welfare.
The Obama era determination under the Clean Air Act is
the legal underpinning of a host of climate regulations for
motor vehicles, power plants, other pollution sources. Notice they're going
(27:49):
to tell you. The Democrats are going to say, Oh,
they're going to all get upset about this. Meanwhile, they
hate e lawnmoss. The comparison of these things matter in
this way, Elon with his companies has done more to
decarbonize the auto industry or move ay. Now, I know
(28:11):
the electricity comes from dirty sources and all this, but
at least you have a real.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Electric car market.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now that is growing, and that is cool, and the
technology is there, and the battery technology from this, and
there's a lot that goes in. It's not just the cars.
It's not just the cars. And you know, Elon has
done so much. But they will hate on Elon and
say he's terrible and celebrate Tesla losing, you know, fifty
percent of its stock value in the by the ways.
(28:41):
I mean, I'm a huge I'm a believer in all
of Elon's companies. Okay, but Tesla losing his value. And
then they'll turn around and say, oh my gosh, you're
getting rid of these EPA regulations. What about climate change? Well,
what about Elon and what he's done for climate change?
You see, it's Democrats are inherently politically uh you know,
(29:02):
there's a schism in their mind. There's a separation the
brain between what is and what they want to be,
and they will move on any issue irrespective of what
they've said on another issue if it suits their political
needs in the moment. And you see this with all
the environmental stuff. President Biden, for example, said that the
power there are power plant rules would improve public health
(29:27):
and improve the supply of electricity to the American needs,
both untrue. This is just this is by regulating CO
two everybody which you and I breathe out. It really
to to put this into the most appropriate context. They
want to They want to regulate our exhalation if they can.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh my god, CO two, what are you doing? You're
killing the planet? What about the cow farts?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Remember AOC and the Green New Deal and we got
to deal with the caw far and then we're like, wait,
no methane I this is just all it's people who
want to control you, and it's an endless excuse for control.
And the EPA has become a weapon of these lunatics.
And lee Zelden is going in there and he is
trying to defang this thing as fast as possible. And
(30:18):
it is an important mission because when you talk about
getting us to where the Trump economy should be and
what we would like to see removing these artificial constraints
on businesses and all these I mean, they should take
a chainsaw to the any EPA regulation that's about the
(30:38):
CO two emissions.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's got to go, gotta go.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And they can cry about clean water and toxic waste
on somebody else's watch, because we know that's not what.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
This is about.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But if you attack the EPA, notice they go to
the things that we all agree on that we're not
attacking to try to protect the things that are insane
and that are really just an excuse to harass and
regular and control, which is really the bait that that
is the psychological foundation of the climate change religion, to
harass and control and annoy you. And that's what libs
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Kenny in Texas way in my friend, Yes, sure you do.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I thank you very much for taking the call. Good afternoon.
I'll make it short and brief. I don't believe the
Democrats in the Senate have really thought about the negative
aspects of their government's shutdown. What may happen. Americans may
wake up on Saturday and realize that government employees do
not really affect their daily lives, and it may actually
encourage more Americans to believe in and even support deeper
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doughch cuts.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I think that people, first of all, with Trump in charge,
they won't be able to do what they've done before,
which is, oh, look, now no one's look at the
you know, honor flights for veterans, and now they can't
go into the parks. They try to find the areas
where the few areas where it will be visible if
there are, and they make the cuts to those areas.
They could move funding around, or they could move personnel around,
(34:34):
so they continue with the important stuff. But I think
you make an interesting point with that one. Kenny, thank
you for calling in, And yeah, we'll see if we
get to a shutdown. Here we have Schumer here somewhere,
don't we talking about the shutdown? Yes, this is Schumer
in September of twenty twenty four. This is the kind
(34:57):
of stuff. So there's a flashback. But this is what
he who to say. Play fourteen.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
If the government shuts down, it will be average Americans
who suffer most. A government shut down means seniors who
rely on Social Security could be thrown into chaos as
the Social Security Administration limits certain services like benefit verification
or fixing errors in payments. Our veterans could see regional
VA offices shut down and support services put on halt.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Some of our.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Military service members could be forced to work without pay.
Families who benefit from WICK and other nutrition programs could
see benefits halted.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So that was September of twenty four. Why is Schumer
threatened to shut the government down now? Well, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What has changed so much since September of twenty four
when all these horrible things would happen if the government
shut down. To now Schumer's like, sorry, I might have
to shut the government down. Hmmmm, interesting, isn't it. But
this is the game they always play. They don't care
what they said yesterday. They just want to manipulate the
public and get their way even when they're in the
already in this Enate and in the Congress overall. So
(36:05):
we will hold them accountable here. Let's talk Trump Russia
cease fire stuff. When we come back here, update you
on that. Some very important, uh, some very important things
happening with with that situation. And we'll also go back
to the conversation about Mahmoud Khalil and the protest in
Trump Tower by the lunatics, the pro Palestine lunatics. We'll
(36:26):
have Carol Mark who's joining us with that at the
bottom of the next hour. So we have a jam
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All right. Second, now we're Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we've been talking already about the border, immigration, the
protest of lunatics in Trump Tower. They're getting arrested, the
flex cuffs have been going on. You know, no surprise there.
They definitely earned that one. Some of the crazier signs
I've seen it a protest in a while, kind of
up there with the you know, trans students for Palestine,
(00:26):
trans students for Hamas. I don't know if those trans
students really know very much about Hamas. I'll put that
out there. But we've got all that happening, and we've
got more also dive into on the economy.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I will get to that.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I think today is a busy day of things going
on here. Let's talk Department of Education, and we have education.
First of all, the Department Education has gotten a bunch
of cuts. They've had people who are told sorry you
are you are no longer employed here, thirteen hundred employees,
(01:03):
offices were closed. Now, I think it is probably the
case that a lot of Democrats are thinking to them
or a lot of these individuals and Democrats are thinking, well,
the worst is over. It turns out no from their perspective.
I don't think the worst is over. Education Secretary of
McMahon spoke on this This is cut nineteen.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Is this the first step on the road to a
total shutdown? Yes, actually it is, because that was the
president's mandate. This is directive to me. This clearly is
to shut down the Department of Education, which we know
we'll have to work with Congress, you know, to get
that accomplished. But what we did today was to take
the first step of eliminating what I think is bureaucratic bloat.
(01:46):
And that's not to say that a lot of the folks,
you know, it's a humanitarian thing too. A lot of
the folks that are there, you know, they're out of
a job. But we wanted to make sure that we
kept all of the right people and the good people
to make sure that the outward facing programs, the grant,
the appropriations that come from Congress, all of that are
being met and none of that's going to fall through
the crack.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, there you have it. She's saying, straight up, we're
gonna shut this thing down. This is not this is
not just oh they came out. They came out with
this big thing right away.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But things are.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Gonna settle down. No, they're not gonna settle down. They're
gonna try to shut down their work with Congress to
do it. There's some things that still need to get
squared away with the legislative branch, but they're gonna try
to shut down the entire department.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I just thought this was interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That now they're in a position, right the cuts have
been made, as Doge and Trump and Elon and everybody
have been saying they would be there's more coming. But
I mean, they're making these cuts. This is not just rhetorical.
This isn't just to get the base fired up. Now
the New York Times and others are in a position
where they have to explain, well, why do we care
(02:58):
if the Department of Education and has lost thirteen hundred
employees and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What difference does that make to the American people.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
They have to explain this to us, And the New
York Times comes out with this, which I just think
is perfect, unintentionally perfect. Our school succeeding Trump Education department
cuts could make it hard to know. At least eight
I'm reading here from the New York Times, at least
eight hundred Education department, research employees and outside partners have
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lost jobs. The cuts will decimate research and collection data.
So we're paying we're paying hundreds of people. We're bringing
hundreds of people to tell us the same thing every
year for the last fifty years, which is no. Nationally,
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the education system is not improving. No, the test scores
gap among different student ethnicities has not been closed. No,
test scores of low income students, especially low income students
from non two parent households, have not improved. We got
(04:13):
hundreds of people that are just there to tell us
what we already know. And why can't a state do this?
Why does the federal government have to do some kind
of number crunching about what's going on in schools nationwide
that doesn't really tell us anything. What tells us something is, hey,
in this school district administered by the county or the
(04:35):
state of whatever the state is, here's what's going on.
Returning this to the states makes so much sense. Would
the federal government? Should the federal government be in charge of,
you know, waste management collection in your neighborhood, you know
you want the federal government. No, we all understand that's
a very localized issue, and so that's left up to
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municipalities and localities. Why would the federal government think that
it needs to be in the business of education. Well,
as we know, this department was created but a few
decades ago.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And it has done.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
They should be able to scream about what we're going
to miss out on if the Department of Education goes away,
because and they would, as you know, they should be
able to say, oh, you know, if you if you
cut the This is the fireman first theory. Whenever you
try to cut the budget in any city, they go,
we won't have enough firemen, and then you know, the
buildings will all burn down. You go, okay, look we
(05:32):
need firemen, right, so yeah, if you're going to cut
the fireman budget, you know we need cops.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
If you're going to cut those budgets.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
There's a consequence that people can understand, and that's why
we fund those things. That's why there are that's why
there are fire departments and police departments, et cetera. Right,
very straightforward, what are we missing out on if the
Department of Education goes away? Notice, they oh, but we
got people that are looking at the metrics and doing
a cross section of the blah by.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Blah, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
If you can't tell me why an entire department going
away isn't going to be a problem for me, the
department shouldn't exist. I think that's quite clear if you said, hey, buck,
I mean as much as the State Department is a
bunch of now not all of them. And I have
to say this because you know, I know, I know,
(06:26):
I know a few former Marines who became Foreign Service officers,
like you know, there are real patriots where in the
State Department, let's not forget about that. But in general,
it's a left wing, radical, lunatic institution. In general, there's
a lot of that there. And I know because I
used to deal with them when I was in the CIA,
and the CIA was like I mean, even before Trump
came along, we were a lot of US were MAGA
(06:46):
compared to the State Department. All right, State Department and
USAID is like Fidel Castro should have been running that place.
They're so left wing. I don't even know what to say. So,
you know, everybody was left of All these institutions were
left of center. And I'm going back here over a
decade obviously, but CIA was the most center right because
we had the paramilitaries, and we had you know, case
(07:07):
officers and some analysts like me who were conservative, you know,
loved them, loved America.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I didn't think that we were the problem in the world.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Then you go to State Department, a little left of
the CIA, and then you go to USAID, which is
you know, Commieville as we know, just straight straight.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Out of Moscow back in the day.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So with all this though, the State Department, if you
told me, hey, Buck, you know what, let's just get
rid of that, I say, no, no, no, there's a federal
there's a federal need for the state went foreign relations
is a constitutional duty of the federal government. We do
need to have foreign so and that's very straightforward, right
if you if someone came to me and they said,
why why do we need a Department of Justice, Well,
(07:45):
if we're going to have federal law, which we need
to have federal laws, we do need to have some
body that enforces it, not corruptly and for a partisan
agenda like Biden did, but we do need you know,
it's clear, that's why we have it. Thee Department of
of Education, they can't even make the case.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
This New York.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Times article, I read it I'm like, great, get rid
of these people. We don't need them that they do nothing.
They are not helping, you know, they pass out federal
funding grants and things like this. We don't need them
distributing these dollars. Let's let the states take this thing
over and let's get, if anything, more dollars to the
states from the federal government. If that's what Trump and
(08:24):
the Congress decides to do, give it to the states
that can use it better instead of having it pars
through the hands of pass through the hands of bureaucrats
at the Department of Education. But when you have the
head of an agency saying, my mission is to shut
down this agency. The Trump memo has been received. Everybody,
(08:46):
this is real, this is happening. I'm just going to
say this. Tulci Gabbard. I like Tulsi very very a
good lady who I think is going to do a
good job and a patriot and everything else. She should
fix the she should fix the intelligence community as much
as she can, and then she should self destruct the
(09:07):
Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It should not exist. It's a joke.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's just oversight on top of oversight on top of bureaucracy.
There is no need for a DNI. It used to
just be the CIA director was the conduit for the
intelligence that that could be the case again, you don't
need this all right. I mean, I remember being in
the Oval office with I think it was Clapper.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That was a Clapper.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I can't even remember who the Director of National Intelligence
was back under the early days of Obama or early
I'm sorry, latter days of Bush. It's been a long time. Like,
what is this guy even doing here? I don't need it,
you know, showing up in a briefing. I don't need
this guy here. This is ridiculous. So od and I
should go away, NCTC should go away, and the people
who work in these places should find gainful employment. A
(09:53):
lot of them have impressive educational credentials. They've gotten some
interesting experience, and there's a lot of different things that
they could do, you know, maybe go work at DOZE
and help find where the billions of dollars are getting
are disappearing to in some of these fraudulent transactions. Right,
there's plenty of stuff for them to do. And I
think that what we're seeing right now is the Trump
(10:16):
agenda at the Department of Education and these other places
is being enacted, which is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's not rhetoric, it's not just talk. Makes me very happy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
The other thing is you have to remember when it
comes to government bureaucrats, there's the expense and the harassment
of bureaucrats in these places, in these different agencies who
don't need to be there, who aren't really doing anything.
The expense we all understand, right, you're paying salary, health
benefits and all this as a tax payer. The federal
(10:47):
government has gotten way too big, there's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's way too big.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So that expense is being borne by the tax payer.
But then on the harassment side of things, you have
people who want to justify their existence in these roles,
and so they decide, well, I'm going to do stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But this is true.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You go into like fishing fish and wildlife or fishing
game or whatever it's called. You go into a whole
bunch of different you going EPA, Oh, we're going to
talk EPA. In a second. These bureaucrats are showing up,
they're getting paid. You know what they want to do.
They want to tell you what to do, and they
show up with an agenda. They show up with an ideology,
and then they make sure only people get hired and
(11:26):
only people get promoted in these agencies who share that ideology,
which is always left wing, especially at the EPA, especially
at USAID, et cetera. And then they find ways to
implement through the regulatory and rule making powers that they
have at these agencies, which they shouldn't have. They find
a way to say, you know what you're going to
(11:48):
do this now? Oh you you think you're going to
You think you're going to drain that pond in your backyard,
that's a wet land. We'll find you ten thousand dollars
a day. Crazy stuff going on. So there's the cost
of the bureaucrats to the pocketbook and the cost of
the bureaucrats in frustration and time. And that, my friends,
(12:11):
is why getting rid of this nonsense.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Is so important. It's a double whammy.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
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We've got phone calls coming in, We've got talkbacks, we
got vip he emails. I want to get to a
couple of those here. I want to pull up your
talkbacks and I'm going to do that right now. Where
(14:09):
did it go to talk about? Here we go? We
got BB in Worcester, Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Play BB please, Hey Buck, Brian from Worcester, mass Just
as a fellow Clancy fan, I was surprised that while
talking about Trump going after the Cartels, you never referenced
the fantastic Tom Clancy movie Clear in Present Danger, where
the President used an executive order to send our special
forces overseas to wipe out the Cartels. Well, I appreciate
(14:42):
the reminder. Brian from Worcester, listening on news radio five
to eighty there.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I think that of the Clancy film canon, I think
that The Hunt for Red October is the best. I
still think. And yes, I know it's Alec Baldon. We
don't like his politics and all that, but I think
the Hunt for Red October still stands at number one.
Clear and Present Danger though for me is number two,
and I think that clear and Present danger is for
(15:13):
a something that deals with the cartels.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The only thing for.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Me that really gets close to it would be Narcos
on Netflix, Ciccario.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know, I just watched.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Sacario with Kerrie recently, which is a Taylor Sheridan. I
think it's really was not quite his breakthrough. That would
have been wind River, I think, which he wrote and directed,
which was also a good watch. I enjoyed that, But
Sacario I think was probably his bigger I mean that
that really launched him before Yellowstone.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think it was right. So I watched the Caario
and it has.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Some really good elements, But for me, there were some
aspects of Sacario that it could.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Have like he almost did it really well.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know the scene where they're coming back from Mexico
where they have the high high value targeting custody and
there's a it's very cool scene. I thought it could
have been a little bit better, though, I mean, you know,
so I don't want to be I don't want to
be too uh my expectation is too high. But Sacario's
good stuff. Clear and Present Danger, though, is excellent. That
ambush sequence in Clear and Present Danger, and if you
(16:14):
haven't seen it, movie holds up. It's a good movie.
It's a fun watch to this day. Tom Clancy in
the genre was a genius, as you know. You know,
I'm I'm a Clancy Crichton guy. Those were my my
books of my youth that got me excited about books.
They're both fantastic. But yeah, I know the cartel stuff
that I don't think there's I've seen much else that's
(16:35):
really all that good. On the cartels. There was that
movie Savages, which was not good. Cecario two not good,
not good. I don't know what had did Taylor Sarnan
even get involved with that one.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
That one was trash. So you gotta do what you
gotta do to get the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Let's see, we've got another bb New York City listener
CC play it.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Afternoon I gotta tell you right now, as soon as
you broke that news about them occupying Trump Plaza, I
went on the news channels. CNN had nothing, MSNBC had nothing.
Fox News was the only channel that was actually showing
the entire demonstration humiliating, disgusting, and I guarantee you DOJ
(17:19):
is going through the books right now and they're going
to throw these people out of this country.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
If you're here on a visa, don't do dumb stuff
because you're gonna find out. That's the Trump administration has
made that clear, and from what I have seen, they
do have that authority. And so see you later. That's now.
I think there'll probably be a lot of American citizens
in the Trump Tower protests. I don't know, there's a
lot of lunatics who are Americans who care so much
(17:44):
about Palestine. But yeah, of course CNN and MSNBC aren't
covering it because it makes their side look like the
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Trying to keep you up today with all the things
going on now today in Trump world, a flurry of activity.
Tea we've already got let me see, just prepare for this.
It's going to be happening. You're going to be seeing
(19:07):
these headlines throughout A federal judge and I'm I'm I'm
loading this because this news story just came down. A
federal judge has ordered the Trump administation stration to reinstate
tens of thousands of federal workers. US District Judge William
Alsop ordered President Donald Trump's administration to reinstate tens of
(19:27):
thousands of probationary federal employees. He referred in the ruling,
the judge referred to the fire and the mass firings
as unlawful and a sham. Oh okay, this is this
is just madness that they do not have Office of
(19:49):
Personnel Management. This this is not something that a federal
judge should be able to do.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I just want to know.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So, can a federal judge just decide that any thing
that Trump does as president is not allowed. That's we're
getting pretty close to that, aren't we, Like, well, where
where do we draw the lines here? One federal judge
can operate at the same level. We're not talking about
the Supreme Court, which is constitutionally mandated. We're talking about
(20:18):
a federal judge, a creation of Congress, a creation of Congress,
who is saying the president can't do that. Really, president
can't fire? Why are they probationary employees if they can't
be fired for any reason or no reason because it
is in the interest of the American people as determined
by the executive branch. But the hashtag resistance judges. This
(20:42):
is one thing that Democrats have done that it's smart.
I mean, it's nefarious, but it's smart. They have seeded
the judiciary with as many radical left wing activists as
they possibly can, as fast as they can.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Biden did this, Obama did this. This is this is
what they have.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Been doing, and they're really the only game in town
now for slowing down the Trump machine. Democrats in the Congress, yeah,
you really, you want you want to go to a shutdown.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You want it to be the Schumer shutdown. We'll see
about that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's frustrating, I understand, because it just feels it feels
so lawless. I think for a federal judge to override
the will of seventy five million plus voters who voted
for Donald Trump by saying, oh, you're not allowed to
run the executive branch, as if you're actually running it.
(21:34):
I mean, how are they within the executive branch if
they aren't in the chain of command and can't be
fired by the person at the top.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
How does that work? Exactly? Do they work for this
federal judge?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Is he in charge of hiring and firing the millions
of federal employees out there. I just want to know
where this where this power that this judge has taken
on for himself stops and starts. All right, Well, let's
let's get back into some other stuff going on here,
which is the situation of the EPA. And Lee Zelden
(22:11):
is doing some great stuff here. I'm seeing also the
the updates on the Trump ceasefire, Russia Ukraine war. Russia
has agreed in principle to go forward with this. We'll
get into that a second. Let me finish our EPA
talk and then stay with me, and I promise I'll
get to Russia Ukraine wars. This is what I'm saying.
(22:34):
There's so much going on right now. You got agency's
being shut down, you got people storming Trump Tower acting
like psychos, you got the left all upset about mood Khalil.
I mean, you know, we got a lot of things,
got deportations happening, We've got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
To keep track of. But the EPA, I gotta say
I love this.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
ABC.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Let me give you the ABC News headline on it,
which I think puts it in a pretty clear context. The
biggest deregulatory action in history. The EPA has rolled out
sweeping moves today aimed at walking back environmental protections and
eliminating a host of climate change regulations, some were decades
(23:19):
in the making. Lee Zelvin has gone into the EPA
and he is cleaning house. He is cleaning house. Uh
not the greenhouse gas emissions. We're not gonna worry about those.
He is cleaning house. It is fantastic. One of the
things that he's going to be doing is looking at
the way that the EPA has decided that it is
(23:41):
in the climate change religion business, and it's gonna look
at this and say, how exactly is this something? But
first of all, the science on this is wrong, meaning
that the idea that anything that the EPA is going
to do will have any measurable impact whatsoever on global
climate change is insane, insane, It is completely irrational. So
(24:03):
you're gonna have a lot There are a lot of
ideologues in the EPA civil servants who this is going
to freak them out because they think that their agency.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Imagine this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Imagine you think your life's work is saving the planet
by harassing people about their car emissions or whatever, and
then someone comes along and says, you know that everything
that you've been doing is a fraud and is annoying
and is useless. You're probably not going to like that
person very much. Well, that person is Lee's Elton, and
(24:32):
that is what he is doing right now. So I
think this is fantastic. I want to see more of this.
And they've got to move as fast as they can
on all this stuff. They've got to do what they
can while they can because Democrats are going to start
to catch up on this. Here we go, ABC News.
(24:56):
This is just in the last twenty four hours series
of actions rule back environmental regulations. We are driving here
we go. We are driving a dagger through the heart
of the of the climate change religion and ushering in
America's golden age. The EPA administrator Lee Zelden says, let
(25:16):
me tell you, we focus a lot with the economy
on cutting and streamlining and doing things that are whether
it's you know, based in employment numbers, tariffs, import export,
job creation, all all the usual things. The artificial headwind
that our economy has from moronic EPA regulations is enormous.
(25:43):
It's completely counterproductive and it all needs to go. Now
this is where they say, what about clean water? Have
I said anything about clean water? I want clean water?
You want clean water? Notice they always change the conversation
to something that you're not opposed to or you're not
having a problem them with. You know, do I think
that the EPA should make sure that people have safe
(26:04):
and clean drinking water?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Do we all want Who doesn't want to be able
to drink clean water from the tap in the United States?
I mean, I would argue that one of the marks
of civilization in twenty twenty five is do you live
in a place where you can drink water out of
the tap safely?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
This is why I have a rule with carry now
now that we're soon to be parents. I used to
go to places where you couldn't even trust the bottled water, really,
but I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
When I was in my CIA days, I would go
wherever they sent me, and I was like, Okay, let's
do it.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
If I can't drink the water out of the tap,
I don't think. I don't think I'm up on vacation.
I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's not for me. But yeah, of course we want
clean water.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Of course we don't want you know, toxic waste in
a But the that's all the old discussion and the
propaganda from the environmentalists to cover for what they really want,
which is the hyper regulatory state that can tell you
what your business can do and what your emissions can be.
All about two CO two. This is the excuse to
(27:06):
put their regulatory boot on your neck for countless issues,
countless issues, and people have had enough of it. Those
of us who are sane and want to see American
prosperity flourishing to its greatest possible extent are saying there
is no more of this. Zelden said quote. He and
(27:27):
President Trump support rewriting the agencies two thousand and nine
findings that planet warming greenhouse gases endanger public health and welfare.
The Obama era determination under the Clean Air Act is
the legal underpinning of a host of climate regulations for
motor vehicles, power plants, other pollution sources. Notice they're going
(27:49):
to tell you. The Democrats are going to say, Oh,
they're going to all get upset about this. Meanwhile, they
hate e lawnmoss. The comparison of these things matter in
this way, Elon with his companies has done more to
decarbonize the auto industry or move ay. Now, I know
(28:11):
the electricity comes from dirty sources and all this, but
at least you have a real.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Electric car market.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now that is growing, and that is cool, and the
technology is there, and the battery technology from this, and
there's a lot that goes in. It's not just the cars.
It's not just the cars. And you know, Elon has
done so much. But they will hate on Elon and
say he's terrible and celebrate Tesla losing, you know, fifty
percent of its stock value in the by the ways.
(28:41):
I mean, I'm a huge I'm a believer in all
of Elon's companies. Okay, but Tesla losing his value. And
then they'll turn around and say, oh my gosh, you're
getting rid of these EPA regulations. What about climate change? Well,
what about Elon and what he's done for climate change?
You see, it's Democrats are inherently politically uh you know,
(29:02):
there's a schism in their mind. There's a separation the
brain between what is and what they want to be,
and they will move on any issue irrespective of what
they've said on another issue if it suits their political
needs in the moment. And you see this with all
the environmental stuff. President Biden, for example, said that the
power there are power plant rules would improve public health
(29:27):
and improve the supply of electricity to the American needs,
both untrue. This is just this is by regulating CO
two everybody which you and I breathe out. It really
to to put this into the most appropriate context. They
want to They want to regulate our exhalation if they can.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh my god, CO two, what are you doing? You're
killing the planet? What about the cow farts?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Remember AOC and the Green New Deal and we got
to deal with the caw far and then we're like, wait,
no methane I this is just all it's people who
want to control you, and it's an endless excuse for control.
And the EPA has become a weapon of these lunatics.
And lee Zelden is going in there and he is
trying to defang this thing as fast as possible. And
(30:18):
it is an important mission because when you talk about
getting us to where the Trump economy should be and
what we would like to see removing these artificial constraints
on businesses and all these I mean, they should take
a chainsaw to the any EPA regulation that's about the
(30:38):
CO two emissions.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's got to go, gotta go.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And they can cry about clean water and toxic waste
on somebody else's watch, because we know that's not what.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
This is about.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But if you attack the EPA, notice they go to
the things that we all agree on that we're not
attacking to try to protect the things that are insane
and that are really just an excuse to harass and
regular and control, which is really the bait that that
is the psychological foundation of the climate change religion, to
harass and control and annoy you. And that's what libs
(31:16):
are very good at. So we will come back in.
It is definitely want to take some of your calls here,
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of this good stuff. Do we still have Kenny in Texas,
Kenny in Texas way in my friend, Yes, sure you do.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I thank you very much for taking the call. Good afternoon.
I'll make it short and brief. I don't believe the
Democrats in the Senate have really thought about the negative
aspects of their government's shutdown. What may happen. Americans may
wake up on Saturday and realize that government employees do
not really affect their daily lives, and it may actually
encourage more Americans to believe in and even support deeper
(34:09):
doughch cuts.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I think that people, first of all, with Trump in charge,
they won't be able to do what they've done before,
which is, oh, look, now no one's look at the
you know, honor flights for veterans, and now they can't
go into the parks. They try to find the areas
where the few areas where it will be visible if
there are, and they make the cuts to those areas.
They could move funding around, or they could move personnel around,
(34:34):
so they continue with the important stuff. But I think
you make an interesting point with that one. Kenny, thank
you for calling in, And yeah, we'll see if we
get to a shutdown. Here we have Schumer here somewhere,
don't we talking about the shutdown? Yes, this is Schumer
in September of twenty twenty four. This is the kind
(34:57):
of stuff. So there's a flashback. But this is what
he who to say. Play fourteen.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
If the government shuts down, it will be average Americans
who suffer most. A government shut down means seniors who
rely on Social Security could be thrown into chaos as
the Social Security Administration limits certain services like benefit verification
or fixing errors in payments. Our veterans could see regional
VA offices shut down and support services put on halt.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Some of our.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Military service members could be forced to work without pay.
Families who benefit from WICK and other nutrition programs could
see benefits halted.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So that was September of twenty four. Why is Schumer
threatened to shut the government down now? Well, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What has changed so much since September of twenty four
when all these horrible things would happen if the government
shut down. To now Schumer's like, sorry, I might have
to shut the government down. Hmmmm, interesting, isn't it. But
this is the game they always play. They don't care
what they said yesterday. They just want to manipulate the
public and get their way even when they're in the
already in this Enate and in the Congress overall. So
(36:05):
we will hold them accountable here. Let's talk Trump Russia
cease fire stuff. When we come back here, update you
on that. Some very important, uh, some very important things
happening with with that situation. And we'll also go back
to the conversation about Mahmoud Khalil and the protest in
Trump Tower by the lunatics, the pro Palestine lunatics. We'll
(36:26):
have Carol Mark who's joining us with that at the
bottom of the next hour. So we have a jam
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