March 15, 2025 • 36 mins
Speaker Mike Johnson on the government shutdown. Democrats on the continuing resolution. Elon Musk: if the federal government were a private sector corporation, they would go bankrupt. PA Senator John Fetterman. Rep. Jasmine Crockett says she's not going to be Speaker Johnson's doormat. DOGE. CNBC host Steve Liesman loses it over trade war with Canada. President Trump is trolling the Canadians. Peter Navarro reacts to Canada. Claire McCaskill freaks out and asks if Trump is going to do to Canada what Putin has done to Ukraine. President Trump hosts Ireland Prime Minister Micheal Martin and talks tariffs, department of education, eggs and oil. Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi was all about DOGE oversight back in 2010. Democrats have zero accountability. Mail carrier Talkback. The three hour battalion. Buck's baby update: the lil' dude is doing good!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
I just realized as we were sitting here having a
little chat about Rosie O'Donnell getting citizenship in Ireland.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
For Ireland, what did they do deserve Rosie o'donnald.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
But Trump has been giving remarks at the annual Friends
of Ireland luncheon up on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I didn't know, look at that, Look at the Irish,
look at that up on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So we might have some soundbites from that for you
here momentarily. But the President has has been speaking to
everybody and doing what he does. Friends of Ireland Luncheon.
All right, we've got that. We've also got it just
to update us all with the in the world of politics.
Here the Senate Democrats having to figure out what they're
(00:51):
going to do about this looming shutdown situation. Here's a speaker,
Mike Johnson. This is fourteen, who is just in and
out there. The House Republicans have done their thing. The
Senate's got to do their thing, and if they won't,
it's on the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Play fourteen.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
This was a big night in Congress last night. To
get that done. We passed a clean, simple bill to
keep the government funded for the rest of the year.
And every Democrat except for one, in spite of all
their previous sayings about how disastrous it would be to
shut the government down, they all voted to do exactly that.
So now the ball is sent over to the Senate
and Chuck Schumer has a big decision to make. Is
he going to cast a vote to keep the government
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open or is he going to be blamed for shutting
it down? And that's clearly, very simply what they have
to decide, and I hope they do the right thing,
because government shutdowns, as they all said their own video
and have said a thousand times, is harmful for everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
We don't need that.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So you're going to see there'll be videos that circle that.
I'm sure of this Democrats who in the past have said.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Shutdown is horrible, it's reckless. Look at all the oh
my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Are going to be saying, WHOA, we can't just we
can't just go along with this is a this is
gutting the government. We can't go along with this continuing resolution.
It's a spending patch essentially, a stopgap measure, which brings
me to this is how far we are from really
being able to tackle the spending problem. We've got most
(02:19):
of the spending I think something like seventy percent close
to that. Sixty five seventy percent is on Most of
the spending is on autopilot. So there's that, and then
the spending that we do try to cut. They tell
us it's the most essential stuff ever. And we don't
do an un actual budget and look at what are
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we spending on this? What are we spending on that?
We just say, Okay, we're gonna throw more money into it.
We don't do zero based budgeting. We assume all this
spending and then we just pile more spending on top
of it. Crazy stuff, right, It is true. Elon has
made this point that if the federal government were a corporation,
like truly a private sector corporation with the practices that
(03:04):
it has, there would be the company would go bankrupt
and they would have the board of directors or you know,
the CEO would go to prison, right, I mean, it would.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's a mess. It is a mess.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So now we have this continuing resolution, we got to
I'll dig in tomorrow bit more into what's in there,
because here's the thing, the stuff that the Democrats hate
in it. They don't hate spending, so there are other
things that are in this r that they don't like.
So we can dive into a bit of that, because
whatever it is that they hate is probably awesome. Right,
that's the easy test on these things. Whatever it is
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that bothers them the most is a thing, or the
things that bother them the most, those are what we
want to make sure are in there. So you've got
fifty two Republicans who are going to pass the House
version of this already. They need to get it to
sixty with me with meaning eight Democrats are going to
have to join in. The only one who has said
(04:01):
he would is John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. There you go
on this one. Oh he's a moderate, right, but we've
seen recently on other things. Oh no, very much a Democrat.
But remember this is a spending bill, so's it shouldn't
be some really hard thing for Democrats to say, Yeah, spend.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
They're obsessed with spending.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
They're obsessed with taking money in your name, or rather
printing money in your name, debasing the money in your
bank account and that you are paid in your paycheck,
but taking money in your name and putting it to
whatever pet issue they have. So there's going to be
some amendments of wrangling over this. It's a seven month
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funding bill that the House has passed, So.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
This is this is part of the whole, the whole process.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I mean, if you're going to have the Trump agenda
really humming, really hitting on all cylinders, you need Congress
to get in on the act here and do the
right thing.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So I think that that's that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Oh, the erudite stateswoman, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett has something to
say about this. This is cut fifteen that the new
hero of the Democrat left play it.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
He can't blame me for not wanting to be his doormat,
or for the Democrats not wanting to be their doormat.
I mean, all we consistently hear from them is they
have this mandate that the American people gave them. Well,
I am saying that I have a mandate from my
district and it does not involve cutting Medicaid, cutting Medicare. No,
I'm not going to vote for the continuing Resolution. The
Republicans control of the House, the Senate, and the White House.
(05:41):
If they want to get their draconian stuff past. It's
going to hurt my constituents. They're going to do it
by themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
M Here we are seeing that the Democrats are going
to be. Of course, if this was if you go
back to the Obama era, it's obstructionist, right, this is
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We're in the majority party. You're not doing what we say.
It's obstructionist.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But no, they don't want the dismantling of the administrative state,
and they refuse to take any accountability for the disastrous
spending trajectory that we're on. So we're gonna get no
help from Democrats on this. Really, the Democrats are they
are the party of spend us into oblivion because they're
(06:24):
the party of emotions and feelings and feelings right now,
and feelings right now are let's just keep spending what
we're spending and then add some more to it and
keep doing that forever until the whole thing collapses. It's
it's the we are running in this country a version
of the old joke, how do you go bankrupt slowly
then suddenly? That is the Democrats strategy for this, which
(06:48):
is the way to tackle the debt is don't is
keep adding to it, keep making it worse, and if
you keep making it worse, you'll be able to turn
around to your constituents and say, oh, but I can
kept the money flowing to you in the meantime, and
if the whole thing collapses, well then you.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Know who cares. Right, that's their attitude.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Just run this thing off the run this car off
the cliff, and figure it out later. It's astonishingly irresponsible.
But that that is where the Democrat Party is on
this notice. They used to talk about you can go,
you play. You know, Obama Pelosi, there are polite guys.
(07:28):
If you can help me find there. There's a Pelosi
Pelosi clips flying around from when she was speaker, I
think under the Obama years where she's talking about how
much how we have to eliminate, we have to get
the debt under control, and we have to eliminate waste,
fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Is Nancy Pelosi. So then then Elon comes along and
he's saying, hey, I've got an idea.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Let's get this debt under control and let's find the
waste fraud, abuse and stop it. And Democrats are saying
that everyone hates him, and people are lighting Tesla's on
fire because they're out of their minds. Not a lot
of people, but you know people that are disturbed, Biden
voters or Kamala voters, but disturbed nonetheless. So yeah, I
think that Democrats aren't going to take this to a shutdown.
(08:12):
I think that this is going to get I think
this is the cr is going to get.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Through, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
If not, then Trump gets to decide what is essential
and what is not essential. And the government they also
always created this. They create panic. You know, Democrats, their
party runs so much off of the manipulation of public emotion,
so they.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Create this sense of, oh, the government shut down and
all these terrible things are going to happen.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's fine, It'll be fine. It's not the end of
the world, not in the least bit. And the same
thing I think is true with the way they're talking
about the tariffs, which I want to come back to here.
Over at CNBC there's a host, Steve Leesman, who I
think he makes it pretty clear he is not a
(08:58):
fan of Trump's tariff. This is eighteen play it.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I'm going to say this at risk of my job, Kelly,
but what President Trump is doing is insane. It is
absolutely insane. It is about the eighth reason we've had
for the tariffs. And now he's saying he's putting fifty
percent tariffs on Canada unless they agree to become the
fifty first state. That is insane. There is no other
way of describing it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He's trolling the Canadians. He's not going to make it
the fifty first state. It's not going to happen. But
he's also putting pressure on their leadership through a little
bit of shall we say, gentle mockery, by showing that, look,
you know, we got to get some changes here in
some aspects of the economic relationship, and that requires pressure,
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that requires the willingness to do things that the Canadian government,
the Canadian people aren't going to like very much.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That is at the heart of the negotiation.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The the version of negotiation that the DC swamp engages
in is the people don't matter. We're going to spend
all your money. We're going to spend your money into oblivion,
and we're not going to do any The international community
gets to dictate to us. We don't get to dictate
to them whatever the international community means. And that's not
America First, that's not what Trump stands for. That's not
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what he wants to do. Peter Navarro, who remember went
to prison, went to prison because he refused to violate
executive privilege when the Democrats were having their whole all
the insurrection freak out. Here he is explaining a little
bit of a different perspective on the Canada situation. This
is seventeen Play It.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Frankly, the premiere he's been I mean, look, just tamp
it down please over there, Okay, just throwing down the
hockey gloves and stop that rhetoric, and let's just look
at what we're trying to do. We love Canada, but
look there's some big issues there and we're not going
to tolerate anything but them stopping killing Americans and doing
(11:02):
what's right with respect to things like stealing a woman
which they've been dumping into our country, and that's stopping.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He's just saying, look, we got some things we want
to work out. We're going to figure it out. Okay,
no one's there's gonna be no evasion. Everything's fine, everything
is fine. There's no need to freak out, there's no
need to take this into some level of hysteria. Unless
you're a Democrat like Claire mccaskell cut sixteen. Here she's
saying that what Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Is doing with Canada it's like what Putin has done
to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And think about the whole thing.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Is saying, he's going to make Canada fifty first sent
What is he going to go to war with Canada?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Does he think the American people are going to put
up with us losing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Lives to try.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
To take Canada because Canada is not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Ever, ever, ever, willingly.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So the only way you do it is by force.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Is he going to do to Canada what Putin has
done to Ukraine? I mean, that's the logical consequence of
what he's saying. And is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
She really needs to do like some yoga, maybe some
some breathing exercises, prayer, meditation, something. Calm down, Claire, It's
gonna be fine. Trump's not gonna invade Canada.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We love Canada, great country, great people. He's just doing
a little negotiating, all right. He's trying to get some
things accomplished here. And just you know, we don't need
the hysteria. We don't need the hysteria. But you know,
The problem is they've trained themselves over many years now
to just become hysterical about all things Trump related.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So now they're a point where even.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The tariff's discussion has got to get them hysterical. Now
that that Trump's arrangement syndrome as it's looking for the
next place to manifest itself.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's look what he's doing on tariffs. Yeah, he's saying,
he's in Canada.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You do some things that annoy us, that don't benefit
our economy, that aren't really that aren't really free trade.
Get rid of those things, or we're gonna do some
things that annoy you that aren't really free trade, that
are in tariffs, and we need you to help us
on some border issues.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, he's not saying that the you know, the
whole country has to learn a different language, which you
know obviously we speak they speak English. You have to
learn a different language, and you know, do something impossible,
do something crazy, or else it's gonna be fine. It's
not gonna be the fifty first state. And look, Republicans,
we don't want it to be the fifty first state,
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not because it's not a lovely place with lovely people.
But way too many Libs, way too many. It would
be like adding another Well, I got to check and
see what the registrations are. The population is similar to
the state of California.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I don't know what their breakdown is for liberal versus conservative.
I know they've had Trudeau, one of the most clownish
world leaders of all in the last decade or so
that he's been their representative, so that's not a good
But we had Biden. You know, a lot of Americans
here are like, don't blame us, So I'm sure there
are a lot of Canadians who are a don't play
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here from the president. He is as always moving and
setting news cycles with every utterance, pretty much, so let's
dive into it. On the tariff's situation, which we know
we've talked about a fair amount today on the show.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is still in flux. It's all going to be fine.
It is still in flux, and he is negotiating.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
But he spoke about that, and he keeps on trying
to get everyone understand who is particularly critical of this?
But critical I think the people who are critical of
it because they hate Trump and that's they're gonna He
could cure cancer and they would say, why cancer, You know,
it doesn't matter. But there are the people who I
think are a little hey, hold on, is this going
to be good for the Trump economy? We want the best.
(19:48):
I'm a little worried about this. Trump is telling him,
you got to remember, this is about reciprocal tariffs first
and foremost, meaning places that have it against us, they
should remove that. And that's why worth we'll put them
on you if you don't take You know, this is
a do one to others as they do unto you.
Tariff strategy play twenty two.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
As you know, we're going to be doing reciprocal tariffs.
So whatever they charge us, we're charging them. Nobody can
complain about that. Whatever it is, It doesn't even matter
what it is. If they charge us, if they charge
us twenty five or twenty percent or ten percent or
two percent or two hundred percent, then that's what we're
charging them. And so I don't know why people get
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upset about that, because there's nothing more fair than that.
And we we had a problem with Ontario or they
dropped that when I let them know what we were
going to be doing, they dropped it immediately. So I'm
glad because electricity shouldn't be playing with electricity. It affects
people's lives. There actually their life, I mean it can
affect depending on whether it can affect their life, So
we can't do that.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Why is it bad.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
To use the threat of tariffs, I mean, threat might
be a little strong, But to use the implementation of tariffs,
the possibility of tariffs as a negotiation tool to get
another country to remove its pre existing tariff against us,
I'd like to know what the really honest and straightforward
(21:16):
response to that is. Instead, I get tariffs raise prices
and they lower aggregate demand, and I hear all this, Oh, okay,
I know that there's a lot of in economics, there's
a lot of cost benefit analysis on a whole range
of things, and this is something that we've had to
deal with on the immigration side of things too, where they.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Say, oh, the more illegals, the bigger our GDP is.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, but that doesn't What we want is a country
that is actually a country that has sovereignty and that
has households, individuals doing well. We don't just want the more,
the merrier, the bigger the economy, the bigger the overall
GDP the better. That's actually it's GDP per capital that
(21:56):
matters to us a lot more than just overall GP
because you have to look at the long term expanse
of individuals. We're going to be government dependent, and that's
already reflected in our immigration laws, but it's ignored anyway.
So Trump is saying, yeah, look, we're going to tear
if people that are tariffing us, and so that seemed
I just feel like that's very straightforward. I don't know
(22:18):
why this is. And he said he was going to
do this. He's always talked about this. I don't know
why this is a shock to anybody. Okay, now let's
move to what he just said. Now a few moments
ago about the price of talked about eggs in the
first hour, price of eggs and oil.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
This is twenty three hit it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
We did a lot of things that got the cost
of eggs down very substantial, and so many other things.
A very big thing that I'm very happy with is
oil is down just sixty five dollars a barrel, and
that's faster than I would have been tear. We put
on the gas. We stepped into gas in order to
get oil, and what's happening. So we're getting that down
and when energy comes down, prices are going to be
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coming down with it. So in a very short period
of time, we've done a very good job.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, and it's a very short period of time. Nobody
can really argue with that. And things are starting to
move in the right direction on some key things. You know,
stock market goes up, stock market goes down. That's what
markets do. There's a lot of reasons for that. But
I think that it should be clear to everybody that
the team that's in charge, they understand this stuff. They
(23:22):
know what's going on. And Trump's been here before. We
have a record to judge this song. This is not
Oh gosh, does this guy have any idea what he's doing?
Do you remember what the economy was like twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, It was like, oh my gosh. You know,
look the you know, real unemployment number is going down
so much, probably wages going up. You know, the stock
(23:44):
market's booming, industry merger, you know, it's all and yeah,
good stuff, right, It's it's all going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's all going to be just fine.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
That's what I keep trying to remind everybody who's willing
to listen about.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And I think that the changes that they're making are necessary.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Oh wait wait, speaking of the changes, a little bit
of a throwback here, speaking of the changes, I mentioned
a moment ago in the last segment that there was
a time, not long ago, when.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Natzi Pelosi less opposed to waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Nancy Pelosi is here in twenty ten calling out how
bad the waste, fraud and abuse in medicare is.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
This is twenty five play it.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
We cannot keep our promises on medicare. We simply must
make the cuts and waste fraud and abuse in medicare
so that the benefits and the premiums are untouched. We
owe it to our seniors, We owe it to our country.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Okay, you hear that. That's the really the most powerful
democrat of the last twenty years. I know I say that,
and you're like, oh, and it grows true. It's true.
I mean Obama while in office in his time for
eight years. Been looking how long Pelosi's been in the game.
And look at how Pelosi, I mean, she shepherded through Obamacare.
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She's ruthless, she's not good, but she knows what she's doing.
She knows how to wield power. She ran circles around
the Republicans on some things, just just calling it like
it is right, got to be honest about it. But
here she is, fifteen years ago talking about how if
we don't deal with the waste, fraud and abuse in
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medicare we won't be able to keep medicare as it
is now think about this. That was fifteen years ago.
The problem has only gotten worse since then. The problem
of the waste, fraud and abuse, and the debt and
all of this together has only increased all of these
pressure points. And your Democrats Haiti len musk and mock
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him and want to try to stop him in every
in every possible way. They can see what I mean
that whatever Trump is they are against, and whatever Trumps
against there are for.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
This is the way that they are operating.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Because ultimately the future of the country matters less to
them that they are in charge and they have power.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's the truth.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
They want to be in charge. That is point number one.
Everything else comes after that. They have to have power,
power over you, power over me. Power over the country.
If that means they slam the country into a brick
wall a one hundred miles an hour, well, at least
they were at the driver. At least they were at
the at the wheel. You know, they were in the
driver's seat. And then they'll blame us too, as you know,
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there's no account that's one thing Democrats are great at,
no accountability. Look how they've ruined so many cities with
crime and decay and disorder and drugs and oh who
could have ever known that undermining cops and refusing to
enforce the law would have had these outcomes. I don't
know everybody who's not an idiot, pretty straightforward, but look
what they did. Oh yeah, blm, that's going to help us.
(26:58):
So Pelosi used to be a post the waste, fraud
and abuse, and I just think it's fascinating that she
has completely abandoned ship on this because when there's finally
somebody who's trying to do some real stuff about it,
that's not Remember that's not even spending cuts per se,
that's just money that shouldn't be spent, stops getting spent.
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Democrats have a problem with that. No, you're not allowed,
you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to
do the good thing because you, the Republicans, showing an
ability to follow through on promises to govern with sanity,
to do math, and to take your job in government seriously,
makes people trust you more, makes voters like you more.
(27:44):
And that is unacceptable. That is the Democrat mentality in
all of us. Everything else's noise can't give us, can't
give us a win. You want to know a perfect
encapsulation of this mentality, it is the Biden administration not
accepting Elon Musk's offer to use SpaceX to get the
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astronauts back home when they're you know, when they want
to be home. Instead they get to linger up there
for months and months and months. Why And Elon's made
this very clear, He's talk about this because Biden didn't
want somebody associated with Trump to do an amazing thing
that is a service that everybody could just sit there
(28:27):
and clap and say great, Elon, Trump's buddy got our
asked our American astronauts home. Yeah, that's this is what
we are up against. It is so important that you
remember that as we go through the criticisms of what
Trump is doing, are going to continue to be irrational
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and not in good faith because anything that Trump does
that's good they think must be bad because good Trump
is bad for them. That's It's as simple as it's
as straightforward as that for a vast.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Majority of these issues.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So you know, there are times when I've even said
I hope this, I hope this Democrat pulls this off,
or I hope this Democrat president makes the right decision
for the future of the country and and deserves the
credit if he or she well he does. And you
know there are those occasionally I brought up I mean
the been Laden raid, for example, which was a big
part of Obama, which was really our you know, Navy
(29:28):
seal operators who did it, but in CIA who found him.
But the point is Obama got the credit for it.
He was the commander in chief, he ordered the raid.
There's no part in that goes Oh I wish he
hadn't ordered the Osama Bin Laden raid. No, it was
the right move he pulled, He meate, and he got
four more years in office to do a lot more
damage to the country because of it. But there are
things that we should be able to recognize as good,
irrespective of who's in charge irrespective of who the pre
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you know, which party the president belongs to, Democrats, they've
abandoned that. In the Trump era, nothing anything Trump does
is bad. He even made reference to this explicitly in
the joint addressed to Congress, where I think he even
said if I cured cancer, they would be like.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Oh my gosh, what will we do without cancer?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
And that's that's their attitude on this. And then there's
one more thing here on the this is Trump just
now last our last hour. He says about the Department
of Education cuts, He's owning it. He wanted to do it.
He said, he's doing it half the not half. I
think it's more like a third. I gotta check the
(30:30):
numbers of the DOE workforce has been told see you later.
But Trump says, look, this is not about stopping kids
from learning. This is about letting states run education within
the state Play twenty four.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We have a dream, and you know what the dream is.
We're going to move the Department of Education.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We're going to move education.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Into the states so that the states, instead of bureaucrats
working in Washington, so that the states can run education.
And you have Norway, you have Denmark, you of Sweden,
you have various Finland, you have various countries that do
very well. You also have China that does very well
in education, which is a pretty big tribute to China,
I must say, at one point four billion, and they're
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in the top ten and it's pretty amazing. So we
can't blame size anymore. You know, normally you'd blame size,
it's too big, how can you do it? But China
does it. So we think when you move it back
to Iowa and Indiana and all the states that run
so well, there's so many I could name thirty, maybe
almost forty. Those will be as good as Denmark, those
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will be as good as Norway.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And let's see when states can really control their education
and not have the meddling of the Department of Education
federally which has just made things worse. And when there's
the adequate resources that are just given to the state
that would have gone to the part of education. I
assume that'll be part of this. We'll see, let's see
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which states are able to figure out how to do
this better. Yeah, the whole laboratory of democracy thing, that
the federalism that we have, that whole situation, why can't
that work for education, it works for it works for businesses,
or works for a whole range of things where we
get to see, you know, people are fleeing the blue
communist states moving to red communist states, and this is
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the way the system is supposed to operate. So there
should be again a willingness to approach this in good faith.
But that's never going to happen with the Democrats because
the most important thing, always and forever for these Democrats
now is to oppose Trump because they hate him so
much like a bunch of little babies. It's weeks like
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Making America great again isn't just one man, It's many
The team. Forty seven podcasts Sunday's at noon Eastern in
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Speaker 3 (33:47):
I'll be with you tomorrow and Friday. Clay will be
out as you know, on vacation back Monday, so looking
forward to having him back here.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
In the mix.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Got some great talkbacks from all of you and some
emails flowing in. Let's take a listener in New Jersey
BB on the talkback play it.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Ay Bucks, monnel letter carrier, postal worker in New Jersey
and I agree between twenty and thirty.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Thousand steps a day, Bro, so it is really good.
Good luck with the way God bless you and your
wife with the baby, and there's going to be a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Things you're going to say to yourself.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Boll they didn't tell me about this.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Well, let me just say, first up, thank you very
much for sending us in your talkback and the well
wishes on the baby. He's a carry, just got back
from an ultrasound. The baby is oh wait, I want
to get this right, so she'll she'll correct me if
I don't. The baby is how many five pounds fourteen ounces.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Today, So it's like a little dude.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
There's a little dude in there, you know, and he's
just doing his dude thing and he's swirling around. Easy
for me to say, I'm not the one carrying him,
I know, but he's in there and uh yeah, five
pounds fourteen ounces.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So he's looking good. Everything good.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
His head is kind of big, but of course he's
my son, so he's gonna have a big head. In
terms of mail carriers, the team here reminds me, as
you know, we inherited Rush Limbaugh's radio team who were
with him for twenty years plus, give or take, and
they reminded me that kind of like the way we
have our truckers for a lot of them will be
(35:22):
with us for three hours of the show. On the
day to day mail carriers, we love that we got
mail carriers who will listen to for a three hour
If you're part of the three hour battalion, you know
what I mean. We got our three hour battalion. We
love our If you're going only pop in for you know,
half an hour so on the show, that's great too.
But our three hour battalion of male carriers appreciate all
of you, and we're honored to keep walking around with you.
(35:43):
It's beaking a walking. A lot of you wrote in
on this, by the way, so you know what I'm
talking about. Kendra Buck, I've been a walker, always walked
four miles every day during my pregnancy. After my son
was born, I put him in a stroller. Walked every
day of his life until he outgrew the stroller. Walking
with the baby is the best. These people that focus
on the lack of sleep, ignore them. Yes, your sleep
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will be messed up, but the cuddles with your baby
are worth it. Plus, before you know it, he will
be a seventeen year old with a full beard who's
way bigger than you. So happy for you and Kerry Kendra,
thank you so much. And yeah, you know, walking that
four miles a day, it is fantastic for you, fantastic
for you, so very cool, and I hope a lot
(36:25):
of you, Like I said, I'll maybe a few of you.
I'm going to write in in six months and say buck.
Instead of just ignoring you because you talk a lot,
I listened and I made walking part of my daily routine,
you know, intentional walking, you know, forty five minutes or
more of walking daily and it changed my life. That's
what I'm here for, Clay, and I are here to
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save America and change your lives for the better.
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
I just realized as we were sitting here having a
little chat about Rosie O'Donnell getting citizenship in Ireland.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
For Ireland, what did they do deserve Rosie o'donnald.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
But Trump has been giving remarks at the annual Friends
of Ireland luncheon up on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I didn't know, look at that, Look at the Irish,
look at that up on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So we might have some soundbites from that for you
here momentarily. But the President has has been speaking to
everybody and doing what he does. Friends of Ireland Luncheon.
All right, we've got that. We've also got it just
to update us all with the in the world of politics.
Here the Senate Democrats having to figure out what they're
(00:51):
going to do about this looming shutdown situation. Here's a speaker,
Mike Johnson. This is fourteen, who is just in and
out there. The House Republicans have done their thing. The
Senate's got to do their thing, and if they won't,
it's on the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Play fourteen.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
This was a big night in Congress last night. To
get that done. We passed a clean, simple bill to
keep the government funded for the rest of the year.
And every Democrat except for one, in spite of all
their previous sayings about how disastrous it would be to
shut the government down, they all voted to do exactly that.
So now the ball is sent over to the Senate
and Chuck Schumer has a big decision to make. Is
he going to cast a vote to keep the government
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open or is he going to be blamed for shutting
it down? And that's clearly, very simply what they have
to decide, and I hope they do the right thing,
because government shutdowns, as they all said their own video
and have said a thousand times, is harmful for everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
We don't need that.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So you're going to see there'll be videos that circle that.
I'm sure of this Democrats who in the past have said.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Shutdown is horrible, it's reckless. Look at all the oh
my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Are going to be saying, WHOA, we can't just we
can't just go along with this is a this is
gutting the government. We can't go along with this continuing resolution.
It's a spending patch essentially, a stopgap measure, which brings
me to this is how far we are from really
being able to tackle the spending problem. We've got most
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of the spending I think something like seventy percent close
to that. Sixty five seventy percent is on Most of
the spending is on autopilot. So there's that, and then
the spending that we do try to cut. They tell
us it's the most essential stuff ever. And we don't
do an un actual budget and look at what are
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we spending on this? What are we spending on that?
We just say, Okay, we're gonna throw more money into it.
We don't do zero based budgeting. We assume all this
spending and then we just pile more spending on top
of it. Crazy stuff, right, It is true. Elon has
made this point that if the federal government were a corporation,
like truly a private sector corporation with the practices that
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it has, there would be the company would go bankrupt
and they would have the board of directors or you know,
the CEO would go to prison, right, I mean, it would.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's a mess. It is a mess.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So now we have this continuing resolution, we got to
I'll dig in tomorrow bit more into what's in there,
because here's the thing, the stuff that the Democrats hate
in it. They don't hate spending, so there are other
things that are in this r that they don't like.
So we can dive into a bit of that, because
whatever it is that they hate is probably awesome. Right,
that's the easy test on these things. Whatever it is
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that bothers them the most is a thing, or the
things that bother them the most, those are what we
want to make sure are in there. So you've got
fifty two Republicans who are going to pass the House
version of this already. They need to get it to
sixty with me with meaning eight Democrats are going to
have to join in. The only one who has said
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he would is John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. There you go
on this one. Oh he's a moderate, right, but we've
seen recently on other things. Oh no, very much a Democrat.
But remember this is a spending bill, so's it shouldn't
be some really hard thing for Democrats to say, Yeah, spend.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
They're obsessed with spending.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
They're obsessed with taking money in your name, or rather
printing money in your name, debasing the money in your
bank account and that you are paid in your paycheck,
but taking money in your name and putting it to
whatever pet issue they have. So there's going to be
some amendments of wrangling over this. It's a seven month
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funding bill that the House has passed, So.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
This is this is part of the whole, the whole process.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I mean, if you're going to have the Trump agenda
really humming, really hitting on all cylinders, you need Congress
to get in on the act here and do the
right thing.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So I think that that's that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Oh, the erudite stateswoman, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett has something to
say about this. This is cut fifteen that the new
hero of the Democrat left play it.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
He can't blame me for not wanting to be his doormat,
or for the Democrats not wanting to be their doormat.
I mean, all we consistently hear from them is they
have this mandate that the American people gave them. Well,
I am saying that I have a mandate from my
district and it does not involve cutting Medicaid, cutting Medicare. No,
I'm not going to vote for the continuing Resolution. The
Republicans control of the House, the Senate, and the White House.
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If they want to get their draconian stuff past. It's
going to hurt my constituents. They're going to do it
by themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
M Here we are seeing that the Democrats are going
to be. Of course, if this was if you go
back to the Obama era, it's obstructionist, right, this is
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We're in the majority party. You're not doing what we say.
It's obstructionist.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But no, they don't want the dismantling of the administrative state,
and they refuse to take any accountability for the disastrous
spending trajectory that we're on. So we're gonna get no
help from Democrats on this. Really, the Democrats are they
are the party of spend us into oblivion because they're
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the party of emotions and feelings and feelings right now,
and feelings right now are let's just keep spending what
we're spending and then add some more to it and
keep doing that forever until the whole thing collapses. It's
it's the we are running in this country a version
of the old joke, how do you go bankrupt slowly
then suddenly? That is the Democrats strategy for this, which
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is the way to tackle the debt is don't is
keep adding to it, keep making it worse, and if
you keep making it worse, you'll be able to turn
around to your constituents and say, oh, but I can
kept the money flowing to you in the meantime, and
if the whole thing collapses, well then you.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Know who cares. Right, that's their attitude.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Just run this thing off the run this car off
the cliff, and figure it out later. It's astonishingly irresponsible.
But that that is where the Democrat Party is on
this notice. They used to talk about you can go,
you play. You know, Obama Pelosi, there are polite guys.
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If you can help me find there. There's a Pelosi
Pelosi clips flying around from when she was speaker, I
think under the Obama years where she's talking about how
much how we have to eliminate, we have to get
the debt under control, and we have to eliminate waste,
fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Is Nancy Pelosi. So then then Elon comes along and
he's saying, hey, I've got an idea.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Let's get this debt under control and let's find the
waste fraud, abuse and stop it. And Democrats are saying
that everyone hates him, and people are lighting Tesla's on
fire because they're out of their minds. Not a lot
of people, but you know people that are disturbed, Biden
voters or Kamala voters, but disturbed nonetheless. So yeah, I
think that Democrats aren't going to take this to a shutdown.
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I think that this is going to get I think
this is the cr is going to get.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Through, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
If not, then Trump gets to decide what is essential
and what is not essential. And the government they also
always created this. They create panic. You know, Democrats, their
party runs so much off of the manipulation of public emotion,
so they.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Create this sense of, oh, the government shut down and
all these terrible things are going to happen.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's fine, It'll be fine. It's not the end of
the world, not in the least bit. And the same
thing I think is true with the way they're talking
about the tariffs, which I want to come back to here.
Over at CNBC there's a host, Steve Leesman, who I
think he makes it pretty clear he is not a
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fan of Trump's tariff. This is eighteen play it.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I'm going to say this at risk of my job, Kelly,
but what President Trump is doing is insane. It is
absolutely insane. It is about the eighth reason we've had
for the tariffs. And now he's saying he's putting fifty
percent tariffs on Canada unless they agree to become the
fifty first state. That is insane. There is no other
way of describing it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He's trolling the Canadians. He's not going to make it
the fifty first state. It's not going to happen. But
he's also putting pressure on their leadership through a little
bit of shall we say, gentle mockery, by showing that, look,
you know, we got to get some changes here in
some aspects of the economic relationship, and that requires pressure,
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that requires the willingness to do things that the Canadian government,
the Canadian people aren't going to like very much.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That is at the heart of the negotiation.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The the version of negotiation that the DC swamp engages
in is the people don't matter. We're going to spend
all your money. We're going to spend your money into oblivion,
and we're not going to do any The international community
gets to dictate to us. We don't get to dictate
to them whatever the international community means. And that's not
America First, that's not what Trump stands for. That's not
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what he wants to do. Peter Navarro, who remember went
to prison, went to prison because he refused to violate
executive privilege when the Democrats were having their whole all
the insurrection freak out. Here he is explaining a little
bit of a different perspective on the Canada situation. This
is seventeen Play It.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Frankly, the premiere he's been I mean, look, just tamp
it down please over there, Okay, just throwing down the
hockey gloves and stop that rhetoric, and let's just look
at what we're trying to do. We love Canada, but
look there's some big issues there and we're not going
to tolerate anything but them stopping killing Americans and doing
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what's right with respect to things like stealing a woman
which they've been dumping into our country, and that's stopping.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He's just saying, look, we got some things we want
to work out. We're going to figure it out. Okay,
no one's there's gonna be no evasion. Everything's fine, everything
is fine. There's no need to freak out, there's no
need to take this into some level of hysteria. Unless
you're a Democrat like Claire mccaskell cut sixteen. Here she's
saying that what Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Is doing with Canada it's like what Putin has done
to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And think about the whole thing.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Is saying, he's going to make Canada fifty first sent
What is he going to go to war with Canada?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Does he think the American people are going to put
up with us losing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Lives to try.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
To take Canada because Canada is not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Ever, ever, ever, willingly.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So the only way you do it is by force.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Is he going to do to Canada what Putin has
done to Ukraine? I mean, that's the logical consequence of
what he's saying. And is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
She really needs to do like some yoga, maybe some
some breathing exercises, prayer, meditation, something. Calm down, Claire, It's
gonna be fine. Trump's not gonna invade Canada.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We love Canada, great country, great people. He's just doing
a little negotiating, all right. He's trying to get some
things accomplished here. And just you know, we don't need
the hysteria. We don't need the hysteria. But you know,
The problem is they've trained themselves over many years now
to just become hysterical about all things Trump related.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So now they're a point where even.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The tariff's discussion has got to get them hysterical. Now
that that Trump's arrangement syndrome as it's looking for the
next place to manifest itself.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's look what he's doing on tariffs. Yeah, he's saying,
he's in Canada.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You do some things that annoy us, that don't benefit
our economy, that aren't really that aren't really free trade.
Get rid of those things, or we're gonna do some
things that annoy you that aren't really free trade, that
are in tariffs, and we need you to help us
on some border issues.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, he's not saying that the you know, the
whole country has to learn a different language, which you
know obviously we speak they speak English. You have to
learn a different language, and you know, do something impossible,
do something crazy, or else it's gonna be fine. It's
not gonna be the fifty first state. And look, Republicans,
we don't want it to be the fifty first state,
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not because it's not a lovely place with lovely people.
But way too many Libs, way too many. It would
be like adding another Well, I got to check and
see what the registrations are. The population is similar to
the state of California.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I don't know what their breakdown is for liberal versus conservative.
I know they've had Trudeau, one of the most clownish
world leaders of all in the last decade or so
that he's been their representative, so that's not a good
But we had Biden. You know, a lot of Americans
here are like, don't blame us, So I'm sure there
are a lot of Canadians who are a don't play
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musk for Trudeau. It was there's a bunch of Libs
who live in Ottawa and Montreal. Wasn't our fault. So
we'll see. Let me ask you, are you a steak lover.
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Speaker 2 (16:04):
I am currently on my daily walk now at lunchtime,
listening to Clay and Buck Monday through Friday.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You guys will always be in my ear pods while I'm.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Doing my walk.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Absolutely, I absolutely love to hear it.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Honored that we keep you company during your walk and
try to keep you informed as you're getting those steps in.
It's a great way to do it. Honestly, listen to
this show, either the podcast or live while you're doing
your walk, because I've now reminded you right, go for
if you got time at lunchtime, if you got some
time you know, whenever, and get out there and get
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the steps in. A lot of you writing in on this,
By the way, Eric writes, Buck, you're one hundred percent
right on walking. It sounded crazy to me too, But
last year, after walking not leisurely a mile a day
and changing it up my diet a bit, I lost
twenty five pounds in six months. Eric, Just like me, Man,
the walking is absolutely critical and there's so many benefits
(16:57):
to it for you physically.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
For you men, it's just a.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Good thing to work into your daily, daily schedule. And
you know, I used to be a runner. I used
to even do, not like elite or good. I'm not
going to pretend, but I used to run. I used
to go and do you know, four or five six
miles at a time, you know, on a regular basis.
In my in my twenties, did some road races in
New York. That's what they call them, a you know,
kind of like a track meet out on the roads
(17:22):
of New York City. And the thing about running, which
is great, a great exercise in a lot of ways,
depends on the length in the distance, but is that
it often increases your hunger. And so you go, oh,
I'm gonna lose weight, so I'm gonna start jogging or running. Well, yeah,
but if you do that and then you have like
an extra cheeseburger at night, guess what You're not gonna
get where you want to go. Walking tends to be
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a caloric burn that doesn't result for most people in
a big hunger increase because you've got to control the
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(18:59):
the Oval Office, So I want to bringing the latest
here from the president. He is as always moving and
setting news cycles with every utterance, pretty much, so let's
dive into it. On the tariff's situation, which we know
we've talked about a fair amount today on the show.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is still in flux. It's all going to be fine.
It is still in flux, and he is negotiating.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
But he spoke about that, and he keeps on trying
to get everyone understand who is particularly critical of this?
But critical I think the people who are critical of
it because they hate Trump and that's they're gonna He
could cure cancer and they would say, why cancer, You know,
it doesn't matter. But there are the people who I
think are a little hey, hold on, is this going
to be good for the Trump economy? We want the best.
(19:48):
I'm a little worried about this. Trump is telling him,
you got to remember, this is about reciprocal tariffs first
and foremost, meaning places that have it against us, they
should remove that. And that's why worth we'll put them
on you if you don't take You know, this is
a do one to others as they do unto you.
Tariff strategy play twenty two.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
As you know, we're going to be doing reciprocal tariffs.
So whatever they charge us, we're charging them. Nobody can
complain about that. Whatever it is, It doesn't even matter
what it is. If they charge us, if they charge
us twenty five or twenty percent or ten percent or
two percent or two hundred percent, then that's what we're
charging them. And so I don't know why people get
(20:27):
upset about that, because there's nothing more fair than that.
And we we had a problem with Ontario or they
dropped that when I let them know what we were
going to be doing, they dropped it immediately. So I'm
glad because electricity shouldn't be playing with electricity. It affects
people's lives. There actually their life, I mean it can
affect depending on whether it can affect their life, So
we can't do that.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Why is it bad.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
To use the threat of tariffs, I mean, threat might
be a little strong, But to use the implementation of tariffs,
the possibility of tariffs as a negotiation tool to get
another country to remove its pre existing tariff against us,
I'd like to know what the really honest and straightforward
(21:16):
response to that is. Instead, I get tariffs raise prices
and they lower aggregate demand, and I hear all this, Oh, okay,
I know that there's a lot of in economics, there's
a lot of cost benefit analysis on a whole range
of things, and this is something that we've had to
deal with on the immigration side of things too, where they.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Say, oh, the more illegals, the bigger our GDP is.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, but that doesn't What we want is a country
that is actually a country that has sovereignty and that
has households, individuals doing well. We don't just want the more,
the merrier, the bigger the economy, the bigger the overall
GDP the better. That's actually it's GDP per capital that
(21:56):
matters to us a lot more than just overall GP
because you have to look at the long term expanse
of individuals. We're going to be government dependent, and that's
already reflected in our immigration laws, but it's ignored anyway.
So Trump is saying, yeah, look, we're going to tear
if people that are tariffing us, and so that seemed
I just feel like that's very straightforward. I don't know
(22:18):
why this is. And he said he was going to
do this. He's always talked about this. I don't know
why this is a shock to anybody. Okay, now let's
move to what he just said. Now a few moments
ago about the price of talked about eggs in the
first hour, price of eggs and oil.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
This is twenty three hit it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
We did a lot of things that got the cost
of eggs down very substantial, and so many other things.
A very big thing that I'm very happy with is
oil is down just sixty five dollars a barrel, and
that's faster than I would have been tear. We put
on the gas. We stepped into gas in order to
get oil, and what's happening. So we're getting that down
and when energy comes down, prices are going to be
(22:54):
coming down with it. So in a very short period
of time, we've done a very good job.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, and it's a very short period of time. Nobody
can really argue with that. And things are starting to
move in the right direction on some key things. You know,
stock market goes up, stock market goes down. That's what
markets do. There's a lot of reasons for that. But
I think that it should be clear to everybody that
the team that's in charge, they understand this stuff. They
(23:22):
know what's going on. And Trump's been here before. We
have a record to judge this song. This is not
Oh gosh, does this guy have any idea what he's doing?
Do you remember what the economy was like twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, It was like, oh my gosh. You know,
look the you know, real unemployment number is going down
so much, probably wages going up. You know, the stock
(23:44):
market's booming, industry merger, you know, it's all and yeah,
good stuff, right, It's it's all going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's all going to be just fine.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
That's what I keep trying to remind everybody who's willing
to listen about.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And I think that the changes that they're making are necessary.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Oh wait wait, speaking of the changes, a little bit
of a throwback here, speaking of the changes, I mentioned
a moment ago in the last segment that there was
a time, not long ago, when.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Natzi Pelosi less opposed to waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Nancy Pelosi is here in twenty ten calling out how
bad the waste, fraud and abuse in medicare is.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
This is twenty five play it.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
We cannot keep our promises on medicare. We simply must
make the cuts and waste fraud and abuse in medicare
so that the benefits and the premiums are untouched. We
owe it to our seniors, We owe it to our country.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Okay, you hear that. That's the really the most powerful
democrat of the last twenty years. I know I say that,
and you're like, oh, and it grows true. It's true.
I mean Obama while in office in his time for
eight years. Been looking how long Pelosi's been in the game.
And look at how Pelosi, I mean, she shepherded through Obamacare.
(25:10):
She's ruthless, she's not good, but she knows what she's doing.
She knows how to wield power. She ran circles around
the Republicans on some things, just just calling it like
it is right, got to be honest about it. But
here she is, fifteen years ago talking about how if
we don't deal with the waste, fraud and abuse in
(25:31):
medicare we won't be able to keep medicare as it
is now think about this. That was fifteen years ago.
The problem has only gotten worse since then. The problem
of the waste, fraud and abuse, and the debt and
all of this together has only increased all of these
pressure points. And your Democrats Haiti len musk and mock
(25:52):
him and want to try to stop him in every
in every possible way. They can see what I mean
that whatever Trump is they are against, and whatever Trumps
against there are for.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
This is the way that they are operating.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Because ultimately the future of the country matters less to
them that they are in charge and they have power.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's the truth.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
They want to be in charge. That is point number one.
Everything else comes after that. They have to have power,
power over you, power over me. Power over the country.
If that means they slam the country into a brick
wall a one hundred miles an hour, well, at least
they were at the driver. At least they were at
the at the wheel. You know, they were in the
driver's seat. And then they'll blame us too, as you know,
(26:37):
there's no account that's one thing Democrats are great at,
no accountability. Look how they've ruined so many cities with
crime and decay and disorder and drugs and oh who
could have ever known that undermining cops and refusing to
enforce the law would have had these outcomes. I don't
know everybody who's not an idiot, pretty straightforward, but look
what they did. Oh yeah, blm, that's going to help us.
(26:58):
So Pelosi used to be a post the waste, fraud
and abuse, and I just think it's fascinating that she
has completely abandoned ship on this because when there's finally
somebody who's trying to do some real stuff about it,
that's not Remember that's not even spending cuts per se,
that's just money that shouldn't be spent, stops getting spent.
(27:21):
Democrats have a problem with that. No, you're not allowed,
you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to
do the good thing because you, the Republicans, showing an
ability to follow through on promises to govern with sanity,
to do math, and to take your job in government seriously,
makes people trust you more, makes voters like you more.
(27:44):
And that is unacceptable. That is the Democrat mentality in
all of us. Everything else's noise can't give us, can't
give us a win. You want to know a perfect
encapsulation of this mentality, it is the Biden administration not
accepting Elon Musk's offer to use SpaceX to get the
(28:05):
astronauts back home when they're you know, when they want
to be home. Instead they get to linger up there
for months and months and months. Why And Elon's made
this very clear, He's talk about this because Biden didn't
want somebody associated with Trump to do an amazing thing
that is a service that everybody could just sit there
(28:27):
and clap and say great, Elon, Trump's buddy got our
asked our American astronauts home. Yeah, that's this is what
we are up against. It is so important that you
remember that as we go through the criticisms of what
Trump is doing, are going to continue to be irrational
(28:50):
and not in good faith because anything that Trump does
that's good they think must be bad because good Trump
is bad for them. That's It's as simple as it's
as straightforward as that for a vast.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Majority of these issues.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So you know, there are times when I've even said
I hope this, I hope this Democrat pulls this off,
or I hope this Democrat president makes the right decision
for the future of the country and and deserves the
credit if he or she well he does. And you
know there are those occasionally I brought up I mean
the been Laden raid, for example, which was a big
part of Obama, which was really our you know, Navy
(29:28):
seal operators who did it, but in CIA who found him.
But the point is Obama got the credit for it.
He was the commander in chief, he ordered the raid.
There's no part in that goes Oh I wish he
hadn't ordered the Osama Bin Laden raid. No, it was
the right move he pulled, He meate, and he got
four more years in office to do a lot more
damage to the country because of it. But there are
things that we should be able to recognize as good,
irrespective of who's in charge irrespective of who the pre
(29:52):
you know, which party the president belongs to, Democrats, they've
abandoned that. In the Trump era, nothing anything Trump does
is bad. He even made reference to this explicitly in
the joint addressed to Congress, where I think he even
said if I cured cancer, they would be like.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Oh my gosh, what will we do without cancer?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
And that's that's their attitude on this. And then there's
one more thing here on the this is Trump just
now last our last hour. He says about the Department
of Education cuts, He's owning it. He wanted to do it.
He said, he's doing it half the not half. I
think it's more like a third. I gotta check the
(30:30):
numbers of the DOE workforce has been told see you later.
But Trump says, look, this is not about stopping kids
from learning. This is about letting states run education within
the state Play twenty four.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We have a dream, and you know what the dream is.
We're going to move the Department of Education.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We're going to move education.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Into the states so that the states, instead of bureaucrats
working in Washington, so that the states can run education.
And you have Norway, you have Denmark, you of Sweden,
you have various Finland, you have various countries that do
very well. You also have China that does very well
in education, which is a pretty big tribute to China,
I must say, at one point four billion, and they're
(31:11):
in the top ten and it's pretty amazing. So we
can't blame size anymore. You know, normally you'd blame size,
it's too big, how can you do it? But China
does it. So we think when you move it back
to Iowa and Indiana and all the states that run
so well, there's so many I could name thirty, maybe
almost forty. Those will be as good as Denmark, those
(31:33):
will be as good as Norway.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And let's see when states can really control their education
and not have the meddling of the Department of Education
federally which has just made things worse. And when there's
the adequate resources that are just given to the state
that would have gone to the part of education. I
assume that'll be part of this. We'll see, let's see
(31:56):
which states are able to figure out how to do
this better. Yeah, the whole laboratory of democracy thing, that
the federalism that we have, that whole situation, why can't
that work for education, it works for it works for businesses,
or works for a whole range of things where we
get to see, you know, people are fleeing the blue
communist states moving to red communist states, and this is
(32:18):
the way the system is supposed to operate. So there
should be again a willingness to approach this in good faith.
But that's never going to happen with the Democrats because
the most important thing, always and forever for these Democrats
now is to oppose Trump because they hate him so
much like a bunch of little babies. It's weeks like
(32:38):
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Speaker 3 (33:47):
I'll be with you tomorrow and Friday. Clay will be
out as you know, on vacation back Monday, so looking
forward to having him back here.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
In the mix.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Got some great talkbacks from all of you and some
emails flowing in. Let's take a listener in New Jersey
BB on the talkback play it.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Ay Bucks, monnel letter carrier, postal worker in New Jersey
and I agree between twenty and thirty.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Thousand steps a day, Bro, so it is really good.
Good luck with the way God bless you and your
wife with the baby, and there's going to be a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Things you're going to say to yourself.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Boll they didn't tell me about this.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Well, let me just say, first up, thank you very
much for sending us in your talkback and the well
wishes on the baby. He's a carry, just got back
from an ultrasound. The baby is oh wait, I want
to get this right, so she'll she'll correct me if
I don't. The baby is how many five pounds fourteen ounces.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Today, So it's like a little dude.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
There's a little dude in there, you know, and he's
just doing his dude thing and he's swirling around. Easy
for me to say, I'm not the one carrying him,
I know, but he's in there and uh yeah, five
pounds fourteen ounces.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So he's looking good. Everything good.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
His head is kind of big, but of course he's
my son, so he's gonna have a big head. In
terms of mail carriers, the team here reminds me, as
you know, we inherited Rush Limbaugh's radio team who were
with him for twenty years plus, give or take, and
they reminded me that kind of like the way we
have our truckers for a lot of them will be
(35:22):
with us for three hours of the show. On the
day to day mail carriers, we love that we got
mail carriers who will listen to for a three hour
If you're part of the three hour battalion, you know
what I mean. We got our three hour battalion. We
love our If you're going only pop in for you know,
half an hour so on the show, that's great too.
But our three hour battalion of male carriers appreciate all
of you, and we're honored to keep walking around with you.
(35:43):
It's beaking a walking. A lot of you wrote in
on this, by the way, so you know what I'm
talking about. Kendra Buck, I've been a walker, always walked
four miles every day during my pregnancy. After my son
was born, I put him in a stroller. Walked every
day of his life until he outgrew the stroller. Walking
with the baby is the best. These people that focus
on the lack of sleep, ignore them. Yes, your sleep
(36:04):
will be messed up, but the cuddles with your baby
are worth it. Plus, before you know it, he will
be a seventeen year old with a full beard who's
way bigger than you. So happy for you and Kerry Kendra,
thank you so much. And yeah, you know, walking that
four miles a day, it is fantastic for you, fantastic
for you, so very cool, and I hope a lot
(36:25):
of you, Like I said, I'll maybe a few of you.
I'm going to write in in six months and say buck.
Instead of just ignoring you because you talk a lot,
I listened and I made walking part of my daily routine,
you know, intentional walking, you know, forty five minutes or
more of walking daily and it changed my life. That's
what I'm here for, Clay, and I are here to
(36:46):
save America and change your lives for the better.
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