March 20, 2025 • 36 mins
In hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck dive into a variety of hot topics and current events. They kick off the hour discussing the ongoing judicial challenges facing the Trump agenda. The conversation then shifts to the happiness index in the United States, highlighting the impact of social media on mental health, particularly among young women. Clay asks: Is social media more addictive than nicotine? The left is always saying, "Pay Your Fair Share" - Clay and Buck unpack what that really means. Clay and Buck also provide updates on border enforcement and Trump's stance on the predicted recession, emphasizing his confidence in the economy. The hosts explore the controversy surrounding Tesla and Elon Musk, discussing the affordability of electric vehicles and the political attacks on Musk's company. They also touch on Chuck Schumer's leadership within the Democratic Party, comparing it to the Obama era and questioning the effectiveness of current Democratic strategies. The hour wraps up with a lively discussion on the impact of COVID-19 on education, the inefficiencies of the Department of Education, and the broader implications of government spending and taxation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Thursday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off now, and we've got a lot to break
down with all of you, our friends plural there. I
to make sure that through Floral, our friends Julie Kelly
and Ryan Groduski be joining Julie in the second hour
on the judicial coup that is still very much underway
(00:21):
and a major challenge for the Trump agenda, but one
I think that they are up to the task of tackling.
And then Ryan Grodusky on some of the numbers, including
Clay that discussion yesterday that we had.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I had a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Reaching out to me off air, either about hearing us
on the show talking about that or even just in
my life who had seen those numbers. And we got
to put some of these questions out there again, like
college educated white women. Zelensky is the thing that they
are the biggest outliers on how much they love Volademir Zelensky.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
There's some crazy and DEI those go together. I think
also I saw today there and it ties in with
what we were talking about yesterday. I think because I said,
if we overlaid the different groups, I think what you
would find is that white college educated women are the
least happy of all of those groups, whether it's non
(01:14):
college educated white men and women or men who went
to college. Did you see this today, Buck, It's actually
really kind of sad. The United States overall happiness index,
to the extent that they track this hit a all
time low, and it's being driven by people under the
age of thirty. And I would bet that it's women
(01:35):
under the age of thirty overwhelmingly who are unhappy. And
I think it's hard not to believe at this point
that all of this isn't directly connected to social media.
I mean, if you go look at the charts overall
mental health rates. Now certainly COVID didn't help, but overall
mental health rates just collapsed about twenty fourteen when social
(01:57):
media became prevalent in everybody's lives. And I think we're
going to find out that this is like the nicotine
or cigarettes of our generation, where we allowed these phones
and the social media apps, particularly for young people, to
really kind of lead us astray in terms of our
life's pursuits. So there's an early big picture idea that
(02:17):
I think ties in with yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So we've also got some updates on the border, Tom
Holman pointing out that they are rocking on all cylinders
here to enforce the law, comparing it to Biden. We'll
give you those updates. Trump on the recession that people
are predicting. It is not a recession. He is not
worried at all, which is I'm sure not a surprise
(02:40):
to any of you. The war against Tesla, which we
discussed a bit yesterday, there's more on that. It is
just insane and destructive and wrong on every level. And
I know yesterday I share that I'm thinking about getting
a Tesla. I'm trying to convince carry the problem is
we don't really use the car that we have that much,
or we still have a lease on it parking spots
(03:00):
or one is this also in spots one car, But
we have a lot of guests who come over here,
so we have friends that come visit, so it's nice
to have a little guest spot. Anyway, thinking about getting
a Tesla, and people still go, oh, Teslas for rich
You can get a Tesla right now.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know, I sound like a Tesla salesman for about.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What you can get a like reasonably equipped, you know,
Toyota Corolla for a new Toyota Corolla, I mean it.
You can get a Tesla for like three something a month,
which is really low compared to you know, compared to
what you can see across the car marketplace. Cars have
been very expensive recently, anyway, we have that, and used.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Cars prices have been It's not cheap to buy a
car anywhere, to be frank.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So, I know people have their problems with the evs
everything else. Okay, I get it. But the point is
they're going after Elon and they're trying to hurt his company,
and they're celebrating in its madness. But let's talk about
something else for a second here, or something that has
gotten both of our attention on this week, and that
is the Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer as a leader, I
(04:06):
guess of the Democrat Party. Still, you know, he's one
of the gray hairs. He's been around for a long time,
into the game a long time, and you're starting to
hear a little bit of the resentful. It reminds me
of the Obama era. You didn't build that because Trump
has completely cornered the narrative on.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Robust capitalism, winners.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Building creating wealth for the country and you know, individual
prosperity and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Democrats are the party of.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And here's Chuck Schumer on the view complaining about Americans
who want to keep more this is fourteen, keep more
of their money.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You know what their attitude is. I made my money
all by myself. How dare your government take my money
from me. I don't want to pay taxes, or I
built my company with my bare hands. How dare your
government tell me how I should treat my customers, the
land and water that I own, or my employees. They
hate government. Government's a barrier to people, a barrier to
(05:12):
stop them from doing things. They want to destroy it.
We are not letting them do it, and we're united.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
They're just the left wing authoritarian party, Clay, that's really
what the Democrats have become. They want to tell you
what to do with everything, and they control everything, even
though they're imbeciles. I want Democrats to apt to answer
the question. And I know we're not very far away
from April fifteenth, which is not a very happy day
for a lot of our listeners out there, But what
is a fair share?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I pay forty percent of my income to the federal
government most years now forty percent boom. You know, I
work until May and so I'm still working basically for
the federal government. What would be a fair share. We
have an insanely and sanely aggressive tax policy for people
(06:03):
who actually pay taxes. First of all, and very few
people talk about this. Income taxes are only paid by
about fifty percent of the United States population. So, first
of all, right, off the top, over, I think it's
fifty one percent of people don't pay a single dollar
in federal income tax. Now, payroll taxes is different. Right,
(06:25):
I'm talking about federal income taxes. And then a lot
of you you live in New York, you're listening to
us right now, you live in California, you live in Illinois,
then you have to pay another twelve or thirteen percent
state income tax. And then that doesn't even get into
what your property taxes are going to be or what
your sales taxes are going to be. I mean, the
(06:47):
government is taxing us like crazy. And I gotta live
in New York. Stage.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I haven't lived in New York in uh what going
on three years now, two and a half years, and
they still want me paying taxes there somehow It's crazy. Okay,
the system we have is absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I got taxed because Fox Sports is based in LA
and I would travel a lot to LA to do
television shows and buck. I remember when they would take
that money out of my paycheck.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
By the day. It's by the work day. Same thing
in New York City. Same thing I think in Utah,
if I remember correctly, when I've been to Salt Lake
City in the past, I've had to pay like hundreds
of dollars in income for the.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Privilege of being in Salt Lake. It's a beautiful place.
It is lovely.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But I justly appreciate that Utah was was grabbing into
my pocket there point.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We appreciate everybody who listens in Salt Lake City, where
I believe we're number one, and by yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Number one consistently for three three plus years now. Thank
you Saltlakes Great station. I will say, like, when you
look at the at these arguments, isn't it interesting they
never get pushed back. They say you should pay your
fair share. That's their line, what is the fair share?
And and I think a lot more people are looking
around in the doge era when we're recognizing how much
(08:03):
money is wasted, and this conversation becomes even more paramount
than it should be, which is it's important to all
year round and all the time. But I think Elon
has elevated it. There's also some big philosophical distinctions here
that I think should be made clay. For example, as
we have seen from the efforts of Elon and Doge,
(08:23):
thank you Trump for putting them in the.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Game to do this.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Every dollar of government spending is somehow sacred to Democrats.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
This is what we've seen. Have they actually.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Said on anything that Doge has done. Look at what
Doge has been finding, look at some of the ways
that your money. You know, we talked about the transgender
muppet shows in Mongolia and all this stuff that's going on.
Every dollar the government spends is both sacred and it's
not enough. There always should be You can never cut
(08:55):
and there always should be more. Meanwhile, the American people
who whose hours, labor, creativity, and effort are what is
actually the economy. This is the thing that democrats and
the government don't really understand. It's not that the government
creates the economy. The government, if it's operating, you well,
should create the guidely some of the guidelines, the rules
(09:18):
of the road, and enforcement mechanisms for contracts within the economy.
But it is all of you listening who show up
somewhere and build a good, provide a service, do something
that is worthwhile to society, and you get money for that.
That is the actual economy, the productive economy, and anybody
within that who feels like the government that every dollar
(09:42):
is sacred and never never isn't enough spending. If we
say that something needs to change, that's terrible. Yeah, this,
this whole thinking needs to be flipped on its head,
because what are you really getting for your money with
so many of these things?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
What is really worthwhile? Remember we have a state government too.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The fact that Trump's about to shut the Department of Education,
right that executive word is gonna come down and people go, oh, no, education,
the Department of Education has nothing to do with educating
your children. It. All that does is make it worse
and create a holding pen for boring bureaucrats to get
paid to do nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And we're wrong about everything. Covid I was reading Buck
yesterday to the credit of the New York Times, which
is suddenly realized, Hey, we screwed up everything with COVID.
They had a story about Oakland area kids Buck and
I've met a bunch of these kids as I've been
traveling around and started to speak on some college campuses.
These kids in the in many parts of New York
(10:40):
State and California and Illinois, but this particular kids in
Oakland Buck, they shut down their schools on like March
whatever it was, fifteenth of twenty twenty. They never came
back to school. If you were a junior, I don't
know that we talk enough about how many kids out there,
and I know some of you are listening to us
(11:02):
right now. I remember we had a caller from Utah,
a young woman who was voting for the first time,
eighteen year old, talking about how angry she and some
of her classmates are us. A great call, good memory,
but I mean it hit me because can you imagine
if you're out there listening to us right now, think
about all the things that happened to you when you're sixteen, seventeen,
(11:22):
and eighteen years old, and how embedded in an integral fashion,
so much of your life experience happens sixteen seventeen eighteen.
You remember everybody out there to a largest youn't remember
things when you're sixteen better than something that happened when
you're thirty six, forty six, or fifty six, because all
the years start to run together. It imprints on you
(11:42):
in an interesting way. Those kids went home in many
parts of our country in March of twenty twenty, and
they never came back. You miss your junior year prom
you miss your junior year spring sports season. You never returned.
But the article in New York Times talking about these
kids came back at the end of May for graduation,
(12:05):
and they had to be six foot distant, and they
didn't even recognize each other. Because also think about how
much you change in that year and a half. They
just all went home and they never were in physical
location together again. I just I get angrier the more
I think about it, even though it's been five years,
and so I think, for you tell me that I
(12:26):
have to cut checks. It's one thing if I think
the government's doing a great job. It's another thing if
I'm still furious about what they did, in particularly the
Department of Education, to keep our kids from being able
to be in school.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And they now are at the point where I think
they're on the edge of seeing the Department of Education
get officially shut down.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
There have already been cuts made.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I know a judge is going to reverse it if
he hasn't or she hasn't already, and they'll also reverse
the shutdown. And the whole plan here is essentially to
have the judicial coup in effect for the really Trump's
whole term, if they can get away with it, him
from doing what he should be able to do. But yeah,
the Department of Education, it employees around forty two hundred
(13:06):
people until the most recent round of cuts. When you
look at what does it do? What does the Department
of Education actually do? Everything that it does is either
superfluous political or could be done by the states much
more effectively and much more within the federalist system that
we have. Right, Why should if you, if you live
(13:28):
in if you live in Texas, why should some bureaucrats
in DC be influencing the curriculum of your school in Texas? Oh,
because they have to make sure well, they have to
make sure the test scores don't actually budge and if anything,
get worse over the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Because that's what's happened.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It failure within government needs to be treated like much
more like failure within the private sector, where you and
I have been at places clay where it's a fire
sale and everyone's getting fired and it stinks, and like
you know, but that is what happens. And this notion
that the government is and always will be not just
existing as it is, but growing and getting more money,
(14:04):
that is a change in the way that we are
governed that absolutely needs to happen. And look, we were
just talking about the tax situation here. IRS is a pain,
all right. I mean, I'm hoping that the IRS gets
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Speaker 1 (15:47):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Thursday edition of the program. The NCAA tournament
is underway. I'm gonna do my best. Pay attention, Buck,
you might have to carry us sometimes because I want
to make sure that I don't miss anything of the
best two days of sports in my opinion, the Thursday
(16:09):
Friday shout out to all of the teachers out there
that are rolling in the televisions, which Buck said never
ever happened for him. We also have cut two. I
believe it is to play. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
When you can't fall asleep, you wake up moment, how
do you go back to sleep?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, the only thing I totally admired about sleepy Joe
Biden is the following He'd go to a beach, He'd
laid down in a cut, barely able to get his
feet through the sand. He'd laid down and within minutes
he's sleeping, and you have cameras watching him. I could
never do that. I would never be able to sleep
like that. That's about the only thing I think that
was wonderful. He was a disaster. This man was a disaster.
(16:49):
I don't sleep much. You don't sleep much. A lot
of people that love what they're doing don't sleep much.
I find And so far it's been Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's right. I mean in every interview that he's doing Buck,
there's a couple of lines that are incredible. Can we
pull did you see him talk? Did we play him
talking about Hamilton? And I can't remember if we played
it or we talked about playing it. But also him
talking about Cats given our musical discussion is unbelievably funny.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
If we can grab some of that audio. Well, he
doesn't like Hamilton, as we know. I didn't know it
was possible for me to have a higher opinion of
Trump than I do. I thought we had already gone
to to ten on the dial, but we went to
eleven when he trashed Hamilton. Basically, I mean he was
gentle about it, but we all know that he hates Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Trump. I was read I read it, so I haven't
even heard the audio. If we can find it, Trump
talking about watching the musical Cats. I couldn't keep a
straight face even reading it. We need to grab that audio.
I think you guys will enjoy it. Trump he's a
big musical guy. I gotta be honest. He loves the
nineteen eighties musicals. We'll talk about that we come back.
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(17:56):
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Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's rough out there for Democrats. As Trump continues to
run off the scoreboard. You'll also notice, even though the
judicial coup is cutting some time off the clock, and
I'm sure it's somewhat frustrating for the White House. They
knew this was going to happen. They are prepared for this.
They are moving rapidly, and they keep notice. They don't
(19:15):
stop and say, oh, well, this happens, So I guess
that's just done. Now they figure, well, what else can
we do on that issue? How else can we move
the ball downfield, everything everywhere, all at once. Strategy is
still underway, and it's really really encouraging for those of
us that want to see great things happen in the government.
(19:36):
So we will address all of that. Some more of
that here coming up in a second. But who is
the leader of the Democrat Party right now? I think
that's important for everybody to start to think more about.
And here is Gail King of CBS calling out Chuck
Schumer to his face over at CBS Play sixteen.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
There are people in your own party they're saying, look,
it's time for you to go.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
They're no longer trust your leadership. They want somebody else
in there. What do you say about that? Here's what
I say in your own party, saying that's to go.
Here's what I'm saying. I'm the best leader for the Senate.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
We have a lot of leads, you know, when you
don't have a president, there's not one leader of the party.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
There are lots of them.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
We have a lot of good people, but I am
the best at keep winning Senate seats.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Senator Bill don't faith in the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well, well let me say this, and we're going to
do this day in day out on issues. Why are
they doing tariffs and raising your cost two thousand dollars,
It's beginning to work. Why are they taking away Fanny
and Freddy and raising your housing costs dramatically? It's beginning
to work. His numbers have come down.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's It's not just Gail King and Clay Nancy Pelosi.
This is seventeen Nancy Pelosi, who formerly really ruled the
Democrat Party with an iron fist. From her side of
the aisle, she takes a shot at Schumer for caving
to Trump play seventeen.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
It's about what comes next. Myself, don't give away anything
for nothing. I think that's what happened the other day.
We could have, in my view, perhaps gotten them to
agree to a third way, which was a bipartisan cr
for two four weeks in which we could have had
(21:19):
bipartisan legislation to go forward.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Clay, I just think this is blame shifting because every
Democrat knows it's ugly out there right now. Well, So
first of all, I think we should give credit to
Mike Johnson in the House of Representatives because it was
there staying together and passing this cr that put Chuck
Schumer and the Democrats in an untenable position. Schumer had
(21:45):
two bad options once the House Republicans acted, and again
I give credit to the House Republicans because they created
this situation where Democrats are turning on each other. Schumer
could have shut down the government. If he shut down
the government.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Concern was that plays into the hands of Elon Musk
and the people who want to reform government, because then
it's Schumer and the Democrats who were saying we're going
to refuse to work with Trump. They shut it down
so or he could marshal and I think it was
ended up being ten or eleven of the Senate Democrats
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to allow this thing to go through and just not
fight this battle right now, Neither of those are good options.
I think what it reflects again one the House of
Representatives under Speaker Mike Johnson, with his tiny minority of
an overall majority. Right, we only got a few seats.
They stuck together and they got this done. But it
(22:43):
just comes back to the question that you and I
asked as soon as the election was over, who is
the face of the Democrat Party right now? Nancy Pelosi
was actually a very strong, successful Democrat leader in the House.
Whatever you think about her politics, and clearly we don't
agree with him, but she was really a very effective
leader who would slap down people like AOC on the
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left who get a lot of attention but don't actually
have much of a constituency. No one even knows who
Keem Jefferies is. He isn't a very effective leader. He's
not a particularly articulate spokesperson when it comes to being
able to stand up to Trump. So he's not good.
Chuck Schumer is old, he's out of touch. And Buck
(23:25):
here's the thing, I don't even think he dislikes Trump
that much. You remember when they did the Al Smith
dinner and Schumer was up there on stage and he's
seventy I mean they're around the.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Same mat both New York guys Schumer and Schumer knows
all that. Oh he's he's a hitler and it's all
he knows that's garbage. By the way, Schumer is not
a dumb guy. He's right, particularly charismatic or honest guy,
but he's not a dumb guy. Well, I don't even
think he's able to act on the same level as
(23:55):
a Bernie Sanders or an Elizabeth Warren or certainly an
AOC would be able to do like Trump is an
existential threat to democracy. I just come back to what
I thought was one of the great moments of Trump's
twenty twenty four campaign was that Al Smith dinner when
he got up there and he just I mean he
let it rip.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean it was really funny. It circulated well. I
think it helped him to a large extent with young
male voters on social media with with how funny the
jokes were, and she just took it.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
There are people who believe that Trump ran because of
being mocked. That's why Obama at that dinner. Remember wasn't
it that the out Was it Al Smith? Or yeah,
it was the Alpe Right, I thrid it was actually
the White House Correspondence dinner.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Oh was the White House Correspondence dinner. Gosh, I think
I think that's where Obama got up and made fun
of him. Was the White House Correspondence dinner. But and
made front of him say you will never be president. Yeah,
that's a tough one. That's a tough one, I gotta say.
And by the way, remember that Kamala didn't even show
up for that Al Smith dinner. And I know it
(24:58):
kind of gets snowed under because there's so many events,
and everybody was like, oh, she should have done the
Joe Rogan showed it, she should have done the Al
Sabid dinner. She did that awkward video she recorded with
the SNL like impersonator or whatever thing, and it was awful,
and they played it and everybody who had gone to
the Al Smith dinner going all the way back like
seventy or eighty years or whatever, even Hillary Clinton showed up.
(25:20):
Trump showed up in twenty twenty. Anyway, I thought Trump
killed it there. And I think this is just the
challenge that they have. The resistance is not coming from
legacy media, and it's not coming from any Democrat leader.
It's almost entirely coming from judges. That's where the resistance
two point zero is.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I do need us to be to be clear, though,
that Chuck Schumer has laid out a strategy that could
be something of an X factor. Clay could be a
secret weapon, which is that Chuck Schumer is going to
start haranguing fellow Republicans from right next to them on
the elliptical machine at the gym, so you're gonna get
sweaty Schumer. He's going to start telling people where the
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deal making really happens is when Chuck is in that gym,
throwing up at least twenty thirty pounds on the bench
press twenty or thirty, like it's nobody's business man. He's
just just whipping those reps out. This is cut fifteen
Schumer telling everybody he's a deal maker in the steamroom.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
I am hopeful that a Republican colleagues will resume working
with us, and I talked to them.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
One of the places I told him of going the gym.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
You know, when you're on that bike in your shorts,
panting away next to a Republican, a lot of the
inhibitions come off.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Ah, what was that? What do here? What is that.
I will say that that there is some some truth
to normal people behave normally outside of outside of work.
But it's just a very funny line. And here's the
problem they have, Buck. Can you think of somebody in
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the United States Senate that would be a better minority
leader for the Democrat Party than Chuck Schumer. This is
the problem they're in.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, well, see, the reason they're turning on Schumer now
is that they know that the fight you brought it up,
the Warrens, the Sanders, the aocs, the that's a problem
for them right now. They have to get back to
being able to fool normal working class Americans from the
you know, not from the coast, from the middle of
(27:24):
the country particularly, or from the suburbs of major cities,
that they aren't crazy, that the Democrats are not crazy.
And so for that they look to the establishment. And
right now, the Democrat establishment politician in the at the
top of the list is Chuck Schumer, right because Pelosi
is no longer in the game the same way, So
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it's really Chuck Schumer. And he just doesn't have it.
I mean, I don't, I don't. He's great at fundraising,
he's been, he's been around a long time, but he's
not somebody that's going to be able to help them
craft a message and get something going forward that will
help them turn their fortunes around. So but you know,
they're looking at at Chuck and they're saying, Hey, you're
(28:08):
the establishment guy of the DNC, what do you have
for us?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And Chuck's got nothing right now. I was with our
friend Senator Marsha Blackburn at dinner on Tuesday here in Nashville,
and you know, she's one of the leaders of the
NRSC if I didn't screw that up, which is helping
to recruit candidates for twenty twenty six Buck and she
was just super excited about the quality of contender that
(28:34):
Republicans are going to have. And I bring that up
because you've had Democrats in New Hampshire, in Michigan, and
in Minnesota sitting Democrat senators all announced they're retiring. And
then you've got John Ossoff, who is in real trouble
in Georgia, particularly of Brian Kemp, the governor runs I
think that he would wipe the floor with us off
(28:56):
in Georgia, they feel really good about the midterm in
the Senate being able to add additional leaders. That's when
I think the long knives might come out for Chuck Schumer,
because if Republicans take it to fifty five forty five
or fifty six to they got to be mat forty four,
then the Chuck Schumer era may well be coming to
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a close. And the other thing they're kind of hinting
at Buck is that he's going to have opposition running
if he were to run again. I believe in twenty
twenty eight, which will be an election year, I think
that's when Schumer is up. I don't think he's going
to run again. Is an early prediction here. I think
Chuck Schumer's political career is over, and I think they're
(29:39):
trying to threaten him with hey, AOC's going to run
against you in the Democrat primary in New York State. Remember,
he didn't win by that much in twenty twenty two,
only by like ten points. It ended up way closer
than I think a lot of people thought his Senate
race was going to be.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And what is the counter messaging that they offer right
now to their base, to the Democrat Democrat Party faithful
for how they're going to change all of their fortunes
that it is all on these resistance judges. That's also
why you're seeing, I think, such a flagrant disregard for
the norms from within the judiciary of you know, you
(30:16):
shouldn't just be overruling. We spoke about the numbers. The
numbers are outrageous. How many times a federal judge said, no,
the president can't do that, No, the president can't do that.
It's because it's all they've got and they know that.
Those judges know that, and the media knows that too,
which is why they're going all out to try to
defend this stuff to the point where they will defend
(30:37):
the prerogative of the judge, for example, who tells the
plane full of Venezuelan narco terrorists that they need to
come back to America Like That's because they know that
they have to back these judges. So even if the
messaging around a specific judicial overreach is going to be
problematic for them, because that's the only card they have
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to play, they have to go all in on it.
So I you know, even when they think they're winning
on some of this stuff, Clay, I think they're losing,
which is a rough place for them to be but
they've earned it. Remember this, no sympathy. The Democrats have
earned this. They deserve this, the sadness that they feel. Whatever,
you start to feel like, wow, must be rough for
these Democrats these days, which I think probably none of
(31:20):
you ever actually think that, but if you did have
a moment and you're like, man, must be tough for
the Democrats. Just remember when they were cheering for people
who were shouting at you to double mask outside in public.
Just remember that, and I think that will bring it
all home for you. I think they'll be like, yeah,
their party should be in a state of annihilation, and
this is fantastic to watch, and it's.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Why they're losing young people. Buck, I think young people
are still angry and they look at the Democrat Party
and they blame them for the fact that their lives
got shut down for two years.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I totally agree. We'll take some calls here. Also, we
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(34:13):
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You go to the Clay and Buck page and there's
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You can do this late at night if you listen
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Speaker 1 (34:34):
Sometimes we don't get to all of them, and it's
fast read them all. Though we get the transcripts or
the audio. We do hear them all. So our team
and you guys are killing it. So let's do some flashbacks.
These are from Tuesday, Buck that we didn't get to
that I meant to get to. So you remember Junior
on Long Island. For people who forgot about Junior. I
loved him. I loved his accident. He's got great taste.
(34:55):
He sent us multiple talkbacks after you took a shot
at him. Buck. Here Junior part one that we played
earlier this week.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
I Clay, this is a Junior from Long Island. Fuck,
don't eat pickles on his burgers. He's eating pistachio cobbler garbage.
Please take away another one of his man cards for
the day. I don't think he deserves one.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Doesn't even have any man cards left. I don't know
you went after Junior. You called him out, said he
lived on Long Island. He didn't well anyway, Junior called
he went back at you, buck. This is Junior point
two two point zero h h Long Island, Junior. Listen.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Junior lived in New York City for twenty one years,
but it got full of comic pinkos and he moved
off to Long Island. And don't you sash talk Cobbler,
young man.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I like the junior speaks in third person. You know,
we got four talkbacks that are third person.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Okay, quickly here KK, this is Denver listener Jason. I
can't believe this is real. What an awful human being
he is.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
But listen, if desserts were let's say, equivalent to the
education system, Pie would be maybe a college professor in physics,
mathematics or something, while Cobbler would be about a seventh
grade gym teacher.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh my goodness, outrageous. All right, last callback JJ Phoenix listener,
Craig let him fire.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Away, bru lay eaters, first against the wall.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
When the revolution comes, peach Cobbler now in forever boom.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I agree, you should get shot bucked. That's how we
should end the first hour, we'll keep having POD's talkbacks.
Love you, guys, Our two
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Thursday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off now, and we've got a lot to break
down with all of you, our friends plural there. I
to make sure that through Floral, our friends Julie Kelly
and Ryan Groduski be joining Julie in the second hour
on the judicial coup that is still very much underway
(00:21):
and a major challenge for the Trump agenda, but one
I think that they are up to the task of tackling.
And then Ryan Grodusky on some of the numbers, including
Clay that discussion yesterday that we had.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I had a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Reaching out to me off air, either about hearing us
on the show talking about that or even just in
my life who had seen those numbers. And we got
to put some of these questions out there again, like
college educated white women. Zelensky is the thing that they
are the biggest outliers on how much they love Volademir Zelensky.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
There's some crazy and DEI those go together. I think
also I saw today there and it ties in with
what we were talking about yesterday. I think because I said,
if we overlaid the different groups, I think what you
would find is that white college educated women are the
least happy of all of those groups, whether it's non
(01:14):
college educated white men and women or men who went
to college. Did you see this today, Buck, It's actually
really kind of sad. The United States overall happiness index,
to the extent that they track this hit a all
time low, and it's being driven by people under the
age of thirty. And I would bet that it's women
(01:35):
under the age of thirty overwhelmingly who are unhappy. And
I think it's hard not to believe at this point
that all of this isn't directly connected to social media.
I mean, if you go look at the charts overall
mental health rates. Now certainly COVID didn't help, but overall
mental health rates just collapsed about twenty fourteen when social
(01:57):
media became prevalent in everybody's lives. And I think we're
going to find out that this is like the nicotine
or cigarettes of our generation, where we allowed these phones
and the social media apps, particularly for young people, to
really kind of lead us astray in terms of our
life's pursuits. So there's an early big picture idea that
(02:17):
I think ties in with yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So we've also got some updates on the border, Tom
Holman pointing out that they are rocking on all cylinders
here to enforce the law, comparing it to Biden. We'll
give you those updates. Trump on the recession that people
are predicting. It is not a recession. He is not
worried at all, which is I'm sure not a surprise
(02:40):
to any of you. The war against Tesla, which we
discussed a bit yesterday, there's more on that. It is
just insane and destructive and wrong on every level. And
I know yesterday I share that I'm thinking about getting
a Tesla. I'm trying to convince carry the problem is
we don't really use the car that we have that much,
or we still have a lease on it parking spots
(03:00):
or one is this also in spots one car, But
we have a lot of guests who come over here,
so we have friends that come visit, so it's nice
to have a little guest spot. Anyway, thinking about getting
a Tesla, and people still go, oh, Teslas for rich
You can get a Tesla right now.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know, I sound like a Tesla salesman for about.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What you can get a like reasonably equipped, you know,
Toyota Corolla for a new Toyota Corolla, I mean it.
You can get a Tesla for like three something a month,
which is really low compared to you know, compared to
what you can see across the car marketplace. Cars have
been very expensive recently, anyway, we have that, and used.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Cars prices have been It's not cheap to buy a
car anywhere, to be frank.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So, I know people have their problems with the evs
everything else. Okay, I get it. But the point is
they're going after Elon and they're trying to hurt his company,
and they're celebrating in its madness. But let's talk about
something else for a second here, or something that has
gotten both of our attention on this week, and that
is the Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer as a leader, I
(04:06):
guess of the Democrat Party. Still, you know, he's one
of the gray hairs. He's been around for a long time,
into the game a long time, and you're starting to
hear a little bit of the resentful. It reminds me
of the Obama era. You didn't build that because Trump
has completely cornered the narrative on.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Robust capitalism, winners.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Building creating wealth for the country and you know, individual
prosperity and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Democrats are the party of.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And here's Chuck Schumer on the view complaining about Americans
who want to keep more this is fourteen, keep more
of their money.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You know what their attitude is. I made my money
all by myself. How dare your government take my money
from me. I don't want to pay taxes, or I
built my company with my bare hands. How dare your
government tell me how I should treat my customers, the
land and water that I own, or my employees. They
hate government. Government's a barrier to people, a barrier to
(05:12):
stop them from doing things. They want to destroy it.
We are not letting them do it, and we're united.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
They're just the left wing authoritarian party, Clay, that's really
what the Democrats have become. They want to tell you
what to do with everything, and they control everything, even
though they're imbeciles. I want Democrats to apt to answer
the question. And I know we're not very far away
from April fifteenth, which is not a very happy day
for a lot of our listeners out there, But what
is a fair share?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I pay forty percent of my income to the federal
government most years now forty percent boom. You know, I
work until May and so I'm still working basically for
the federal government. What would be a fair share. We
have an insanely and sanely aggressive tax policy for people
(06:03):
who actually pay taxes. First of all, and very few
people talk about this. Income taxes are only paid by
about fifty percent of the United States population. So, first
of all, right, off the top, over, I think it's
fifty one percent of people don't pay a single dollar
in federal income tax. Now, payroll taxes is different. Right,
(06:25):
I'm talking about federal income taxes. And then a lot
of you you live in New York, you're listening to
us right now, you live in California, you live in Illinois,
then you have to pay another twelve or thirteen percent
state income tax. And then that doesn't even get into
what your property taxes are going to be or what
your sales taxes are going to be. I mean, the
(06:47):
government is taxing us like crazy. And I gotta live
in New York. Stage.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I haven't lived in New York in uh what going
on three years now, two and a half years, and
they still want me paying taxes there somehow It's crazy. Okay,
the system we have is absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I got taxed because Fox Sports is based in LA
and I would travel a lot to LA to do
television shows and buck. I remember when they would take
that money out of my paycheck.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
By the day. It's by the work day. Same thing
in New York City. Same thing I think in Utah,
if I remember correctly, when I've been to Salt Lake
City in the past, I've had to pay like hundreds
of dollars in income for the.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Privilege of being in Salt Lake. It's a beautiful place.
It is lovely.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But I justly appreciate that Utah was was grabbing into
my pocket there point.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We appreciate everybody who listens in Salt Lake City, where
I believe we're number one, and by yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Number one consistently for three three plus years now. Thank
you Saltlakes Great station. I will say, like, when you
look at the at these arguments, isn't it interesting they
never get pushed back. They say you should pay your
fair share. That's their line, what is the fair share?
And and I think a lot more people are looking
around in the doge era when we're recognizing how much
(08:03):
money is wasted, and this conversation becomes even more paramount
than it should be, which is it's important to all
year round and all the time. But I think Elon
has elevated it. There's also some big philosophical distinctions here
that I think should be made clay. For example, as
we have seen from the efforts of Elon and Doge,
(08:23):
thank you Trump for putting them in the.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Game to do this.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Every dollar of government spending is somehow sacred to Democrats.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
This is what we've seen. Have they actually.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Said on anything that Doge has done. Look at what
Doge has been finding, look at some of the ways
that your money. You know, we talked about the transgender
muppet shows in Mongolia and all this stuff that's going on.
Every dollar the government spends is both sacred and it's
not enough. There always should be You can never cut
(08:55):
and there always should be more. Meanwhile, the American people
who whose hours, labor, creativity, and effort are what is
actually the economy. This is the thing that democrats and
the government don't really understand. It's not that the government
creates the economy. The government, if it's operating, you well,
should create the guidely some of the guidelines, the rules
(09:18):
of the road, and enforcement mechanisms for contracts within the economy.
But it is all of you listening who show up
somewhere and build a good, provide a service, do something
that is worthwhile to society, and you get money for that.
That is the actual economy, the productive economy, and anybody
within that who feels like the government that every dollar
(09:42):
is sacred and never never isn't enough spending. If we
say that something needs to change, that's terrible. Yeah, this,
this whole thinking needs to be flipped on its head,
because what are you really getting for your money with
so many of these things?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
What is really worthwhile? Remember we have a state government too.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The fact that Trump's about to shut the Department of Education,
right that executive word is gonna come down and people go, oh, no, education,
the Department of Education has nothing to do with educating
your children. It. All that does is make it worse
and create a holding pen for boring bureaucrats to get
paid to do nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And we're wrong about everything. Covid I was reading Buck
yesterday to the credit of the New York Times, which
is suddenly realized, Hey, we screwed up everything with COVID.
They had a story about Oakland area kids Buck and
I've met a bunch of these kids as I've been
traveling around and started to speak on some college campuses.
These kids in the in many parts of New York
(10:40):
State and California and Illinois, but this particular kids in
Oakland Buck, they shut down their schools on like March
whatever it was, fifteenth of twenty twenty. They never came
back to school. If you were a junior, I don't
know that we talk enough about how many kids out there,
and I know some of you are listening to us
(11:02):
right now. I remember we had a caller from Utah,
a young woman who was voting for the first time,
eighteen year old, talking about how angry she and some
of her classmates are us. A great call, good memory,
but I mean it hit me because can you imagine
if you're out there listening to us right now, think
about all the things that happened to you when you're sixteen, seventeen,
(11:22):
and eighteen years old, and how embedded in an integral fashion,
so much of your life experience happens sixteen seventeen eighteen.
You remember everybody out there to a largest youn't remember
things when you're sixteen better than something that happened when
you're thirty six, forty six, or fifty six, because all
the years start to run together. It imprints on you
(11:42):
in an interesting way. Those kids went home in many
parts of our country in March of twenty twenty, and
they never came back. You miss your junior year prom
you miss your junior year spring sports season. You never returned.
But the article in New York Times talking about these
kids came back at the end of May for graduation,
(12:05):
and they had to be six foot distant, and they
didn't even recognize each other. Because also think about how
much you change in that year and a half. They
just all went home and they never were in physical
location together again. I just I get angrier the more
I think about it, even though it's been five years,
and so I think, for you tell me that I
(12:26):
have to cut checks. It's one thing if I think
the government's doing a great job. It's another thing if
I'm still furious about what they did, in particularly the
Department of Education, to keep our kids from being able
to be in school.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And they now are at the point where I think
they're on the edge of seeing the Department of Education
get officially shut down.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
There have already been cuts made.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I know a judge is going to reverse it if
he hasn't or she hasn't already, and they'll also reverse
the shutdown. And the whole plan here is essentially to
have the judicial coup in effect for the really Trump's
whole term, if they can get away with it, him
from doing what he should be able to do. But yeah,
the Department of Education, it employees around forty two hundred
(13:06):
people until the most recent round of cuts. When you
look at what does it do? What does the Department
of Education actually do? Everything that it does is either
superfluous political or could be done by the states much
more effectively and much more within the federalist system that
we have. Right, Why should if you, if you live
(13:28):
in if you live in Texas, why should some bureaucrats
in DC be influencing the curriculum of your school in Texas? Oh,
because they have to make sure well, they have to
make sure the test scores don't actually budge and if anything,
get worse over the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Because that's what's happened.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It failure within government needs to be treated like much
more like failure within the private sector, where you and
I have been at places clay where it's a fire
sale and everyone's getting fired and it stinks, and like
you know, but that is what happens. And this notion
that the government is and always will be not just
existing as it is, but growing and getting more money,
(14:04):
that is a change in the way that we are
governed that absolutely needs to happen. And look, we were
just talking about the tax situation here. IRS is a pain,
all right. I mean, I'm hoping that the IRS gets
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Thursday edition of the program. The NCAA tournament
is underway. I'm gonna do my best. Pay attention, Buck,
you might have to carry us sometimes because I want
to make sure that I don't miss anything of the
best two days of sports in my opinion, the Thursday
(16:09):
Friday shout out to all of the teachers out there
that are rolling in the televisions, which Buck said never
ever happened for him. We also have cut two. I
believe it is to play. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
When you can't fall asleep, you wake up moment, how
do you go back to sleep?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, the only thing I totally admired about sleepy Joe
Biden is the following He'd go to a beach, He'd
laid down in a cut, barely able to get his
feet through the sand. He'd laid down and within minutes
he's sleeping, and you have cameras watching him. I could
never do that. I would never be able to sleep
like that. That's about the only thing I think that
was wonderful. He was a disaster. This man was a disaster.
(16:49):
I don't sleep much. You don't sleep much. A lot
of people that love what they're doing don't sleep much.
I find And so far it's been Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's right. I mean in every interview that he's doing Buck,
there's a couple of lines that are incredible. Can we
pull did you see him talk? Did we play him
talking about Hamilton? And I can't remember if we played
it or we talked about playing it. But also him
talking about Cats given our musical discussion is unbelievably funny.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
If we can grab some of that audio. Well, he
doesn't like Hamilton, as we know. I didn't know it
was possible for me to have a higher opinion of
Trump than I do. I thought we had already gone
to to ten on the dial, but we went to
eleven when he trashed Hamilton. Basically, I mean he was
gentle about it, but we all know that he hates Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Trump. I was read I read it, so I haven't
even heard the audio. If we can find it, Trump
talking about watching the musical Cats. I couldn't keep a
straight face even reading it. We need to grab that audio.
I think you guys will enjoy it. Trump he's a
big musical guy. I gotta be honest. He loves the
nineteen eighties musicals. We'll talk about that we come back.
In the meantime. We all could use more energy. You
(17:56):
just heard Trump talking about sleepy Joe Biden there and
the only thing he ended what is that Biden could
immediately fall asleep when he was on the beach. Well,
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Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's rough out there for Democrats. As Trump continues to
run off the scoreboard. You'll also notice, even though the
judicial coup is cutting some time off the clock, and
I'm sure it's somewhat frustrating for the White House. They
knew this was going to happen. They are prepared for this.
They are moving rapidly, and they keep notice. They don't
(19:15):
stop and say, oh, well, this happens, So I guess
that's just done. Now they figure, well, what else can
we do on that issue? How else can we move
the ball downfield, everything everywhere, all at once. Strategy is
still underway, and it's really really encouraging for those of
us that want to see great things happen in the government.
(19:36):
So we will address all of that. Some more of
that here coming up in a second. But who is
the leader of the Democrat Party right now? I think
that's important for everybody to start to think more about.
And here is Gail King of CBS calling out Chuck
Schumer to his face over at CBS Play sixteen.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
There are people in your own party they're saying, look,
it's time for you to go.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
They're no longer trust your leadership. They want somebody else
in there. What do you say about that? Here's what
I say in your own party, saying that's to go.
Here's what I'm saying. I'm the best leader for the Senate.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
We have a lot of leads, you know, when you
don't have a president, there's not one leader of the party.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
There are lots of them.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
We have a lot of good people, but I am
the best at keep winning Senate seats.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Senator Bill don't faith in the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well, well let me say this, and we're going to
do this day in day out on issues. Why are
they doing tariffs and raising your cost two thousand dollars,
It's beginning to work. Why are they taking away Fanny
and Freddy and raising your housing costs dramatically? It's beginning
to work. His numbers have come down.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's It's not just Gail King and Clay Nancy Pelosi.
This is seventeen Nancy Pelosi, who formerly really ruled the
Democrat Party with an iron fist. From her side of
the aisle, she takes a shot at Schumer for caving
to Trump play seventeen.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
It's about what comes next. Myself, don't give away anything
for nothing. I think that's what happened the other day.
We could have, in my view, perhaps gotten them to
agree to a third way, which was a bipartisan cr
for two four weeks in which we could have had
(21:19):
bipartisan legislation to go forward.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Clay, I just think this is blame shifting because every
Democrat knows it's ugly out there right now. Well, So
first of all, I think we should give credit to
Mike Johnson in the House of Representatives because it was
there staying together and passing this cr that put Chuck
Schumer and the Democrats in an untenable position. Schumer had
(21:45):
two bad options once the House Republicans acted, and again
I give credit to the House Republicans because they created
this situation where Democrats are turning on each other. Schumer
could have shut down the government. If he shut down
the government.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Concern was that plays into the hands of Elon Musk
and the people who want to reform government, because then
it's Schumer and the Democrats who were saying we're going
to refuse to work with Trump. They shut it down
so or he could marshal and I think it was
ended up being ten or eleven of the Senate Democrats
(22:21):
to allow this thing to go through and just not
fight this battle right now, Neither of those are good options.
I think what it reflects again one the House of
Representatives under Speaker Mike Johnson, with his tiny minority of
an overall majority. Right, we only got a few seats.
They stuck together and they got this done. But it
(22:43):
just comes back to the question that you and I
asked as soon as the election was over, who is
the face of the Democrat Party right now? Nancy Pelosi
was actually a very strong, successful Democrat leader in the House.
Whatever you think about her politics, and clearly we don't
agree with him, but she was really a very effective
leader who would slap down people like AOC on the
(23:05):
left who get a lot of attention but don't actually
have much of a constituency. No one even knows who
Keem Jefferies is. He isn't a very effective leader. He's
not a particularly articulate spokesperson when it comes to being
able to stand up to Trump. So he's not good.
Chuck Schumer is old, he's out of touch. And Buck
(23:25):
here's the thing, I don't even think he dislikes Trump
that much. You remember when they did the Al Smith
dinner and Schumer was up there on stage and he's
seventy I mean they're around the.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Same mat both New York guys Schumer and Schumer knows
all that. Oh he's he's a hitler and it's all
he knows that's garbage. By the way, Schumer is not
a dumb guy. He's right, particularly charismatic or honest guy,
but he's not a dumb guy. Well, I don't even
think he's able to act on the same level as
(23:55):
a Bernie Sanders or an Elizabeth Warren or certainly an
AOC would be able to do like Trump is an
existential threat to democracy. I just come back to what
I thought was one of the great moments of Trump's
twenty twenty four campaign was that Al Smith dinner when
he got up there and he just I mean he
let it rip.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean it was really funny. It circulated well. I
think it helped him to a large extent with young
male voters on social media with with how funny the
jokes were, and she just took it.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
There are people who believe that Trump ran because of
being mocked. That's why Obama at that dinner. Remember wasn't
it that the out Was it Al Smith? Or yeah,
it was the Alpe Right, I thrid it was actually
the White House Correspondence dinner.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Oh was the White House Correspondence dinner. Gosh, I think
I think that's where Obama got up and made fun
of him. Was the White House Correspondence dinner. But and
made front of him say you will never be president. Yeah,
that's a tough one. That's a tough one, I gotta say.
And by the way, remember that Kamala didn't even show
up for that Al Smith dinner. And I know it
(24:58):
kind of gets snowed under because there's so many events,
and everybody was like, oh, she should have done the
Joe Rogan showed it, she should have done the Al
Sabid dinner. She did that awkward video she recorded with
the SNL like impersonator or whatever thing, and it was awful,
and they played it and everybody who had gone to
the Al Smith dinner going all the way back like
seventy or eighty years or whatever, even Hillary Clinton showed up.
(25:20):
Trump showed up in twenty twenty. Anyway, I thought Trump
killed it there. And I think this is just the
challenge that they have. The resistance is not coming from
legacy media, and it's not coming from any Democrat leader.
It's almost entirely coming from judges. That's where the resistance
two point zero is.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I do need us to be to be clear, though,
that Chuck Schumer has laid out a strategy that could
be something of an X factor. Clay could be a
secret weapon, which is that Chuck Schumer is going to
start haranguing fellow Republicans from right next to them on
the elliptical machine at the gym, so you're gonna get
sweaty Schumer. He's going to start telling people where the
(26:04):
deal making really happens is when Chuck is in that gym,
throwing up at least twenty thirty pounds on the bench
press twenty or thirty, like it's nobody's business man. He's
just just whipping those reps out. This is cut fifteen
Schumer telling everybody he's a deal maker in the steamroom.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
I am hopeful that a Republican colleagues will resume working
with us, and I talked to them.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
One of the places I told him of going the gym.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
You know, when you're on that bike in your shorts,
panting away next to a Republican, a lot of the
inhibitions come off.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Ah, what was that? What do here? What is that.
I will say that that there is some some truth
to normal people behave normally outside of outside of work.
But it's just a very funny line. And here's the
problem they have, Buck. Can you think of somebody in
(26:57):
the United States Senate that would be a better minority
leader for the Democrat Party than Chuck Schumer. This is
the problem they're in.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, well, see, the reason they're turning on Schumer now
is that they know that the fight you brought it up,
the Warrens, the Sanders, the aocs, the that's a problem
for them right now. They have to get back to
being able to fool normal working class Americans from the
you know, not from the coast, from the middle of
(27:24):
the country particularly, or from the suburbs of major cities,
that they aren't crazy, that the Democrats are not crazy.
And so for that they look to the establishment. And
right now, the Democrat establishment politician in the at the
top of the list is Chuck Schumer, right because Pelosi
is no longer in the game the same way, So
(27:45):
it's really Chuck Schumer. And he just doesn't have it.
I mean, I don't, I don't. He's great at fundraising,
he's been, he's been around a long time, but he's
not somebody that's going to be able to help them
craft a message and get something going forward that will
help them turn their fortunes around. So but you know,
they're looking at at Chuck and they're saying, Hey, you're
(28:08):
the establishment guy of the DNC, what do you have
for us?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And Chuck's got nothing right now. I was with our
friend Senator Marsha Blackburn at dinner on Tuesday here in Nashville,
and you know, she's one of the leaders of the
NRSC if I didn't screw that up, which is helping
to recruit candidates for twenty twenty six Buck and she
was just super excited about the quality of contender that
(28:34):
Republicans are going to have. And I bring that up
because you've had Democrats in New Hampshire, in Michigan, and
in Minnesota sitting Democrat senators all announced they're retiring. And
then you've got John Ossoff, who is in real trouble
in Georgia, particularly of Brian Kemp, the governor runs I
think that he would wipe the floor with us off
(28:56):
in Georgia, they feel really good about the midterm in
the Senate being able to add additional leaders. That's when
I think the long knives might come out for Chuck Schumer,
because if Republicans take it to fifty five forty five
or fifty six to they got to be mat forty four,
then the Chuck Schumer era may well be coming to
(29:19):
a close. And the other thing they're kind of hinting
at Buck is that he's going to have opposition running
if he were to run again. I believe in twenty
twenty eight, which will be an election year, I think
that's when Schumer is up. I don't think he's going
to run again. Is an early prediction here. I think
Chuck Schumer's political career is over, and I think they're
(29:39):
trying to threaten him with hey, AOC's going to run
against you in the Democrat primary in New York State. Remember,
he didn't win by that much in twenty twenty two,
only by like ten points. It ended up way closer
than I think a lot of people thought his Senate
race was going to be.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And what is the counter messaging that they offer right
now to their base, to the Democrat Democrat Party faithful
for how they're going to change all of their fortunes
that it is all on these resistance judges. That's also
why you're seeing, I think, such a flagrant disregard for
the norms from within the judiciary of you know, you
(30:16):
shouldn't just be overruling. We spoke about the numbers. The
numbers are outrageous. How many times a federal judge said, no,
the president can't do that, No, the president can't do that.
It's because it's all they've got and they know that.
Those judges know that, and the media knows that too,
which is why they're going all out to try to
defend this stuff to the point where they will defend
(30:37):
the prerogative of the judge, for example, who tells the
plane full of Venezuelan narco terrorists that they need to
come back to America Like That's because they know that
they have to back these judges. So even if the
messaging around a specific judicial overreach is going to be
problematic for them, because that's the only card they have
(31:00):
to play, they have to go all in on it.
So I you know, even when they think they're winning
on some of this stuff, Clay, I think they're losing,
which is a rough place for them to be but
they've earned it. Remember this, no sympathy. The Democrats have
earned this. They deserve this, the sadness that they feel. Whatever,
you start to feel like, wow, must be rough for
these Democrats these days, which I think probably none of
(31:20):
you ever actually think that, but if you did have
a moment and you're like, man, must be tough for
the Democrats. Just remember when they were cheering for people
who were shouting at you to double mask outside in public.
Just remember that, and I think that will bring it
all home for you. I think they'll be like, yeah,
their party should be in a state of annihilation, and
this is fantastic to watch, and it's.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Why they're losing young people. Buck, I think young people
are still angry and they look at the Democrat Party
and they blame them for the fact that their lives
got shut down for two years.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I totally agree. We'll take some calls here. Also, we
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Speaker 5 (33:43):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
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Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in
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Travis buck Xton show. Hope all of you are having
a fantastic NCAA tournament Thursday, and we have got a
bunch of talkbacks and you guys are killing it on
(34:13):
the talkbacks. Buck, how do they do this again? They
take the iHeartRadio app and you have the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You go to the Clay and Buck page and there's
a little microphone, a little red microphone. You just press that,
you record, you send it into us. Easy easy, It's fantastic.
You can do this late at night if you listen
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so it's a great option.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Sometimes we don't get to all of them, and it's
fast read them all. Though we get the transcripts or
the audio. We do hear them all. So our team
and you guys are killing it. So let's do some flashbacks.
These are from Tuesday, Buck that we didn't get to
that I meant to get to. So you remember Junior
on Long Island. For people who forgot about Junior. I
loved him. I loved his accident. He's got great taste.
(34:55):
He sent us multiple talkbacks after you took a shot
at him. Buck. Here Junior part one that we played
earlier this week.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
I Clay, this is a Junior from Long Island. Fuck,
don't eat pickles on his burgers. He's eating pistachio cobbler garbage.
Please take away another one of his man cards for
the day. I don't think he deserves one.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Doesn't even have any man cards left. I don't know
you went after Junior. You called him out, said he
lived on Long Island. He didn't well anyway, Junior called
he went back at you, buck. This is Junior point
two two point zero h h Long Island, Junior. Listen.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Junior lived in New York City for twenty one years,
but it got full of comic pinkos and he moved
off to Long Island. And don't you sash talk Cobbler,
young man.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I like the junior speaks in third person. You know,
we got four talkbacks that are third person.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Okay, quickly here KK, this is Denver listener Jason. I
can't believe this is real. What an awful human being
he is.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
But listen, if desserts were let's say, equivalent to the
education system, Pie would be maybe a college professor in physics,
mathematics or something, while Cobbler would be about a seventh
grade gym teacher.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh my goodness, outrageous. All right, last callback JJ Phoenix listener,
Craig let him fire.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Away, bru lay eaters, first against the wall.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
When the revolution comes, peach Cobbler now in forever boom.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I agree, you should get shot bucked. That's how we
should end the first hour, we'll keep having POD's talkbacks.
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