March 21, 2025 • 36 mins
In hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show, Clay and Buck delve into the ongoing attacks on Elon Musk from the left, highlighting the absurdity and intensity of the criticisms. They discuss how figures like Bernie Sanders and AOC are using Musk as a pivot to reignite class warfare rhetoric, despite the irony of Democrats being heavily supported by wealthy donors. Batya Ungar-Sargon provides a compelling argument dismantling the myth that Republicans are backed by oligarchs, emphasizing that Democrats are the true party of the wealthy. The hosts also explore the irrational behavior of Musk's detractors, including vandalism and firebombing incidents targeting Tesla dealerships. They reflect on the broader implications of these attacks and the disconnect between builders like Musk and Trump and bureaucrats who hinder progress. Sean Parnell, Top Pentagon Spokesman, joins the show to debunk a fake New York Times report about Musk's Pentagon visit and discusses the top priorities at the Department of Defense, including homeland security, deterring China, and increasing burden-sharing with allies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicksoff. Now,
(00:02):
thanks for being here with us, and we got a
lot going on. The war against Elon from the a
lunatic left continues on. You've got AOC out there now,
And you know, we talked to Ryan Gerdusky about this yesterday. Clay.
That was my first sense, and I said it on
the show after the election, that they're going to try
to build AOC up into a national level democrat figure,
(00:26):
a leadership figure, just because of her profile. She's got
the right demographic appeal for them. I mean, there's a
lot of stuff that comes together for them that would
make me think that they would do it. The problem
is she's a socialist and it's not very bright. But
you know, then again, they made Joe Biden president somehow,
so they can figure out a lot of things, right.
(00:47):
But thing you've started to hear more of is they
are using Elon as a pivot to get into the
class warfare thing. So it's like, yeah, okay, inflation is bad,
the price of eggs coming down under Trump, we all know,
but was too high gas, all these things, But what
(01:07):
they really care about is the millionaires and billionaires, right,
the old Bernie Sanders routine and oligaucky. Here's Bernie Sanders
with the usual stuff, saying that they will not accept oligarchy,
played twenty one today.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We are here to say, very loudly and billy, no,
we will not accept an oligarchic form of society were
a handful of billionaires run the government. No, we will
not accept an authoritarian form of society with a president
(01:48):
who undermines the Constitution every day and is working aggressively
to take away our freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Okay, yeah, whatever, Okay. At the point here though, oligauky.
He's talking about oligacky again. And the thing that I
find so interesting is they're clearly trying to create a handoff.
Bernie's too old. They tried this with Biden. They know
that they're not gonna get their hand caught in that
bear trap again, right, the burr or mouse trap or whatever.
Bear trap with a hand would be really tough. But
(02:21):
they aren't gonna do that again. I think they realize
he is too He's in his eighties already, so he's
not eating in four years eighty three, he's not running
it almost ninety Okay, fine, AOC, though, is supposed to
be the beneficiary. It's like Bernie is the elder statesman
and the quote intellectual socialist AOC is the next gen.
They're on this tour. But Batia Hunger Sargan, who had
(02:43):
that great clip on the Bill Marshaw recently about how
happy we all are that Trump is doing what he's
doing and how great things are the Trump voters have
no regrets, nothing but high fives all around. She pointed
out that this whole oligarch thing and the whole Wall
Street for Republican it's all crap, it's all lies. This
is eighteen listen, listener dismantled this well done.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
There is such an irony to Democrats talking about oligarchy because,
of course, for every one billionaire that backed President Trump
Kamala Harris head two nine of the ten richest counties
in America are represented by Democrats. Sixty five percent of
Americans making over five hundred thousand dollars a year today
(03:27):
are Democrats. Seventy five percent of hedge fund managers who
make political donations donate two Democrats, and ninety five percent
of political donations from the top three management consulting firms
go to Democrats. Meanwhile, President Trump absolutely crushed with Americans
who make under one hundred thousand dollars a year. The
Democrats are the party of the wealthy and Donald Trump
(03:51):
is representing the working class because he simply lifted the
pro worker elements of the Democrats' agenda. When they abandon
the working class, who care to their rich base.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
This is all performance, aren't Isn't that so? Well? Doningham
clay those stats, I mean, I am familiar with some
of that before. But if you look at where the money,
big you know, big hedge funds money goes to Democrats.
Government bureaucracy, federal bureaucracy money all go all goes to Democrats.
(04:22):
McKenzie and Bain and these you know, supposedly elite management
consultant firms. Don't even get me started on what they
really do. Democrats, the establishment elites are overwhelmingly Democrats. Now
they're trying to pivot into the oligaukey and we care
about the working class. They don't care. They don't give
a you know what about the working class. I think
(04:43):
social media has exposed how little depth there is behind
these talking points. To your point, Kamala spent a billion
and a half dollars and had far more wealthy people
supporting her in the election of twenty twenty four, then
supported Trump. I was just out in San Francisco, Buck,
(05:03):
Marin County, right across the Golden Gate colonists. Unfortunately, but gorgeous.
That's where I'm going to unbelievably beautiful. I have a
friend from law school who lives in Marin County, and
we went out, had the kids. We went out and
got something to eat, and after I ate dinner there,
(05:23):
I went back. I'm a data nerd. I just wanted
to know because she said, yeah, everybody around here is
a diehard supporter of Kamala Harris. And she said, every
now and then I'll see like a Trump bumper sticker,
and people are You're gonna love this story, Buck, People
are like a ghast. So we were out for dinner
(05:45):
getting pizza. I had my son, she had a couple
of her daughters, and one of her daughter's friends was there,
and we were kind of talking and everything else, and
she said, oh, yeah, you know, mister Clay, he's a
big Trump supporter. And her daughter is in sixth grade
and her daughter's friend was also in sixth grade. Buck,
the daughter's friend looked at me like she thought I
(06:08):
was from another planet. I don't think she had ever
in her life, this little girl who was living in
Marin County, ever seen someone who was a Trump supporter.
And my seventeen year old when we got in the
car to head back to the hotel, he said, Dad,
that girl was terrified when she found out that you
(06:30):
voted for Donald Trump and wore a big Trump supporter
and when you said to her, he's actually a really
nice guy. I told her about the milkshake story, and
I was like, he's a good grandpa. It was as
if I were telling her that I was from Mars.
And I went and looked at the data. Marin County
voted ninety to ten for Kamala Harris, ninety to ten. Buck.
(06:57):
I mean, it's not just that these people are in cults.
It's that they really have bought into the idea that
we're evil people. Look we put on Joy Reid. I
don't think Joy Read's evil. I think she's a moron.
They really think that we are likes in a generous
mood today. Yeah, I mean they think that we're Nazi
(07:18):
stormtroopers and and I look, I mean it really like
I thought about this a lot when I got back
to the hotel, because these are highly educated people. How
can they be so insular that they are not familiar
even with the arguments that are being made. And I thought,
bucked this tied end because do you know where some
(07:40):
of these Teesla dealerships that are now getting firebombed are
Bay Area, right, And a lot of people there feel
somehow as if Twitter, which was certainly based in the
Bay Area, and we've talked about this. San Francisco is
one of the most beautiful cities in the world, that
may be the most beautiful, truly natural geographic city in
all of America, right, just yeah, and they have such
(08:00):
incredible wealth there. I think it's the wealthiest city in
America on a per capita basis. Yet their minds are
so closed that they can't even comprehend some of the arguments.
And they really have bought the idea that we're all
a bunch of Nazi stormtroopers if we vote for Trump.
And it really is just kind of staggering because again,
I disagree with a lot of Democrat voters, but I'm
(08:22):
not trying to argue that they are truly evil. Well,
you made a point in the last hour that I
think is worth hitting again and expanding on a little bit,
and that is that Elon is a trader to his class.
And what's really interesting is that who is the original
(08:43):
great class trader in our lifetime in politics? Donald Trump? Yes,
of course he's not supposed to. He's not supposed to
care about the border. He's not supposed to. You know,
Donald Trump was the billionaire that gets along with and
likes the construction workers and wants them to be able
(09:04):
to live in a nice house and have a nice
wife and a nice family and everything. They that is
a huge problem for the elites and the Donald and
also that Donald Trump didn't have the respect for them,
meaning the New York Times. You know, you show up
that Donald Trump, you say, I went to Harvard. He's like,
who cares? Am I supposed to care? Why am I
supposed to? How'd you get into Harvard? Who cares? You know?
He he sees through a lot of the BS. Elon
(09:27):
is a different kind of trader to his class in
their mind, which is the Silicon Valley. You want to
talk about oligarchs, the Silicon Valley ultra wealthy, ultra high IQ,
global industry dominating figure. They have all. I mean, look
at Google and look at Facebook, and look at you. No,
(09:48):
I know, Facebook started to play the game a little bit,
but you look at all. Silicon Valley has been essentially
the greatest wealth creation and concentration of wealth creation maybe
in human history if you did it on like a
square mile basis, And it has unfortunately filled the country
with horrible ideas. It has filled the United States with
(10:09):
the most left wing because of their dominance and social media,
because of the billions of dollars they've spent on politics
in different election cycles going back for decades now. And
Elon is the first one who has really broken from that,
who's at the absolute top. I mean, he is like
the apex of the pyramid clay and goes, yeah, that
stuff that you guys have been promoted, that's insane. Yeah,
(10:31):
you're wrong. It's destroying this country. That allowed you to
build Facebook, that allowed you to build Google, that allowed
for that massive wealth creation. So he's kind of the
Trump of the Bay Area in a sense, right. Trump
did it for the New York Times and Wall Street
and those elites. Elon has thumbed his nose at the
West Coast Silicon Valley Royalty. That's I think really well
(10:54):
said for East versus West Coast and the symbiosis between
the two. I would also point out really a lot
of what we're talking about is builders versus bureaucrats, people
who create something that didn't exist otherwise. Trump built buildings,
Elon has built companies versus the people who really just
kind of get involved in what has already been built
(11:17):
and use it as their method to continue to make
a living. What do most people in DC build other
than a continued tax on the people who actually build,
and there's a frustration. I think that is what unites
Musk and Trump on some level with a lot of
the people in middle management that they feel like don't
(11:40):
actually create. Trump gets along well with construction workers. Why
would that be because he understands that they actually create
things with their hands. They actually build the buildings that
he's trying to put together. I think with that, without them,
you don't have Trump Tower. That's why he likes Trump Tower.
So thank you for the guys building. That's right. And
Elon has built his car almost exclusively that he sells
(12:02):
in the United states in the United States and uniquely
I think respects the craftsmanship for rockets or ships or
whatever else. They're builders, and a lot of what Democrats
represent now is actually the bureaucrats that effectively are taxes
leeches on the builders. And that disconnect is what's motivating
(12:24):
a lot of the conflict that's going on right now
in the country and why I think Elon is the
new target in combination with the fact that they thought
he was their guy and now they're having to look
around and say, wait a minute, the guy who's done
the most to fight climate change is actually a buddy
with Trump. Well, yeah, and they actually connect and it's
(12:44):
a logical choice in many ways for what Elon has done.
And isn't it also interesting, Clay that you see a
pattern a trend here. Jd Vance. I mean I read
Hillbilly Elogy like so many others did over a decade
ago when it came out. Jade Vance is an incredible
American success story. Yeah, that should be inspiring to everybody
(13:07):
of any background, race, creed, or color to grow. I
mean few things are harder on a young person than
having a broken family and addict mother. He's now the
Vice president of the United States and became a multimillionaire on
his own and served in the Marine Corps before that. Okay, yep,
the left completely negates all that in their mind because
(13:27):
he is the vice president Donald Trump, Elon Musk, some
guys show, they try to say that he's I've read
Eline's biography. I know you have two He is not
a rich kid, meaning like he didn't grow up a
rich kid. Yeah, his Parry's dad had a little bit
of money, but it wasn't he showed up here and
was sleeping on the floor. Uh, and kind of almost
like a weirdo. So devoted to his career. I mean,
(13:47):
he was absolutely all in and has created multiple companies,
employing hundreds of thousands of people and trillions of dollars
of wealth creation over the life of those companies. It's
incredible what he done. And they hate him. They hate him.
And then you look at who the Democrats hold up,
Joe Biden. Joe Biden is a leech. He's a leech.
(14:08):
Most politicians who are professional politicians are leeches. That's the job. Now,
you said earlier, and I think it's true. We need
more people who have success in life. And then decide
to give back to the country and a huge game change.
Trump Elon Yeah, the Trump Elon axis. If you're a
multi billionaire businessman, now, who's better at the game than
(14:30):
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that means, You've got it. And it doesn't mean writing
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're talking
about the way they're hitting Elon like crazy people. This
is caught eight. I just want you to hear these
are the kind of conversations we're having about the richest
man of the world, the most impressive CEO in the world.
Over at CNN play it.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
This shows again the American people do not trust Elon Musk.
And Elon Musk is incompetent in his position. And how
do we know because they fired tens of thousands of people.
Is challenging court. The court said the people have to
go back, and now the people are coming back. He
is incompetent, he's a thief, he's a Nazi, and people
(17:12):
don't trust him period.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That's a member of Congress, Jamal Bowman, who is saying
that the former a member former sorry, yeah, former, thank you. Yeah.
That's the alarm puller, alarm powl guy, right, yeah. But
Clay Elon Musk is incompetent or are we really doing this?
We're really doing this. Elon Musk is incompetent thing with Democrats. Now,
he's not the first one or the last one to
say a lot of them are trying this. This is
(17:37):
getting close to defamatory comments on CNN because when you say, uh, look,
you're allowed to speak hyperbolically. And I don't think Jamal
Bowman is smart enough to be intentionally doing this. But
when you call someone a thief, you are opening yourself
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back into Clay and Buck. So we're talking about the
attacks on Elon and also some of what Trump said
from the oval this more well afternoon morning. It was
(19:03):
pretty close to being one or the other, and it's
really interesting to see how Trump is not backing down
at all. And one thing Clay that really did come
across substantially is that Trump recognizes when these judges and
these Democrats opposed things like getting elite members, these are
(19:26):
not It's not that he's taking Americans who have joined
a gang and just sent them to some foreign prison somewhere.
These are non Americans. They are not supposed to be
in the country in the first place. They're illegal aliens
who are also part of a violent gang that is
a designated terrorist organization. They are being sent out of
the country, and Democrats are going to the mat to
(19:47):
make sure they have maximum due process rights. The same Democrats,
and I mean the same individuals in some cases in
the media and the Democrat Party, who had no problem
with nonviolent j six Americans rotting away in a DC
gulag for a year without trial, are now really concerned
about trend to IRAGUA members. But let's actually get an
(20:09):
update here on the Elon story that was running on
the New York Times, from Under Secretary of Defense Sean Parnell,
who joins us for the first time on the program
since he has taken that senior Pentagon role. I feel
like I should salute Sean, thank you for being with us,
and tell us, tell us what you can about what
(20:31):
happened with the New York Times saying ELM was going
to get all the China war plans.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
It was completely fake. And you want to know what else.
We had a heads up from the New York Times reporter.
I should say there's five reporters on it, but by
one of the reporters the night before that they were
planning to write something like that, and this was the
angle that they were going to take. And we told
them last night that it's not true, Like what are
you doing? That's not true, This is completely fake. Yet
(20:58):
they ran with the story anyway. What's crazy to me, Buck,
is that like this Secretary, Secretary Hegseth has been working
so hard to push peace through strength, to build up
our force, to work to implement the President's agenda. I've
been on the bilateral calls with foreign leaders. I've heard him.
(21:22):
I've heard him make the case for peace through strength.
But articles like this that Elon Musk is going to
come to the Pentagon and get a super secret squirrel
briefing on war plans with potential China, not only does
it undermine the Secretary's you know what his goals and
ambitions are here, which I think is part of the point.
It also is is it's dangerous. It's dangerous because many
(21:46):
of us took this job, Buck, and I know I
speak for the Secretary too, because we've got a lot
of kids our job. I think we've got four years
to get this done. You know as well as I do. Buck.
The operating environment, the threat environment glow is changing rapidly.
We've got to change and evolve our force to meet it.
But we we've got kids that we've got to make
sure that they inherit a world that is better than
(22:08):
the one that we had, that is more prosperous the
one that we had and it's safer, and articles like
that like this from the New York Times work against
that goal, and it just it just makes you wonder
what their motivation is. It's to me, it's just sickening.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They should retract, not only should they retack, Sean, congratulations
on the new job, and thank you for the work
that you're doing there and for hopping on with us.
Don't you think, Sean, that this had to be coming
via a leak in some way to the New York Times?
And if that occurred, wouldn't that be criminal based on
the method that it was distributed? And given the story
(22:46):
that's out there about China war plans, what kind of
investigation can we expect or should take place here?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Well, we're still in the early phases of this, so
we're still trying to wrap our mind around how something
like this could happen. But yeah, certainly it's it's it's
a leak, in this case, a fake one. So whoever,
who the two anonymous defense officials? I mean, you sit
there and you read the article from from the Times,
and you wonder if these anonymous defense officials are even
real people. I don't know. But thankfully in this regard
(23:17):
that the leak was fake and we were able to
control the narrative. But the fact of the matter is
that this, this is a big building where we do
nothing but but plan, plan, plan, for every contingency. And
we can't have you know, anonymous defense officials passing off,
you know, what they think might be classified information to
(23:39):
to reporters who then turn around in public and publish it. Yeah,
that's criminal and and and I'll tell you there there
there have got to be consequences for that. So we're
still trying to figure out how how we approach this.
But yeah, I'll tell you this is, this is on
all of our minds because this isn't this is I mean,
(23:59):
there are politics behind everything, but what we're dealing with
here are are global national security issues that could affect
the safety of Americans or potentially the safety of Americans.
You can't play with that stuff. So yeah, what I
can tell you, we're definitely looking into avenues that we
can you know, investigates the loaded word, but we've got
(24:19):
to do something.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Speaking of Sean Parnell, it's just an under Secretary of
Defense at the Pentagon, formerly as you know, Sean was
a friend of ours here on the Clay and Buck
podcast network, and Sean, just give us a sense of
what some of the top agenda items are right now
that Secretary of Defense hag Seth, and then you working
at the Pentagon with the rest of the team there,
(24:43):
what are some of the top items that you're trying
to do in terms of reform, in terms of transparency
and just war fighting efficiency.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Yeah. So I think the top priority for US Buck
and Clay is defense of the homeland. It's been something
that both Democrat and Republican regimes over the last twenty
thirty years have probably not been as strong as they
needed to be on this. But you know, we're we
are very, very focused on full operational control of the
(25:11):
southern border, and that means the cartels not controlling a
single square mile of anything. That means stopping the flow
of fentannel into our country. It's the number one cause
of death for people in America between eighteen and forty five.
It's absolutely unacceptable. It needed to stop yesterday. I think
we're really focused as well on you know this, this
(25:31):
process will be slower, but a real focus on the
Endo Pacific and deterring China. What looms large over many
of these these BILAC calls. Don't want to go into
deep on what's the substance of the conversations, of course,
but the rising tide of the CCP is something that
looms large over everything. We recognize. It's something that we're
(25:54):
going to have that we've got to focus on. It's
a challenge for sure. The third I think is figuring
out a way to increase burden sharing with our allies.
You know, the truth is our allies need to do
more to both protect their nation and protect protect the
world so that we don't have to. You know, we're
(26:15):
always going to be there, We're always going to step
up when we're going to do our part. But as
I mentioned earlier, the world is changing and evolving rapidly,
and if this country, the world's loans superpower, does not
change rapidly and evolve with it, bad things will happen.
And so those I think buck are the top three
priorities for us. I think, you know, operationally, but internally
(26:37):
to the force, like we're aggressively assessing standards, trying to
get a sense of maybe how things changed over the years.
We've removed all the caustic and divisive diversity, equity and
inclusion nonsense from almost all of our digital platforms, you know,
the climate change insanity, all of the electric tanks crap
that's done and gone at the Pentagon, we're cutting those
(26:59):
pros and reinvesting them into programs that will make us
more capable and lethal. So lots of things that are
happening here depending on in the first two months, and look,
it's going to be pedaled to the metal for us
for the next four years because we really want to
we really want to change things, and we're not going
to waste any time doing it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Talking to Sean Parnell, all of that's incredibly important. I
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He's gonna fit in well in Pittsburgh. Hey, I'm whatever.
It's Aaron Rodgers. We'll give it a go. I think
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This is the Steelers I think have struggled at quarterback
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We still need to get I'm in DC right now,
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Thank you so much. Sean. Maybe I don't know. I
play says he's never been on an aircraft carry you
know what I mean. Maybe we've got to do some journalism.
That would be pretty cool. Get him on a helo,
get him out to one. I'm just saying that's a
good idea.
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We might be able to make that happen too.
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(32:39):
and we can talk about it a little bit maybe
in the next hour two. But Jamal Bowman, formerly the
congressman from New York who lost his Democrat opponent in
the primary, lost to his Democratic opponent in the primary,
is no longer in Congress. When you call somebody a
thief and a Night, even with the public figure standard
(33:03):
of speech allowed, you are moving really close to engaging
in defamatory action. And I do wonder whether CNN is
going to have to issue an apology in some way
over this, because when you accuse you're a thief, when
you say someone is a thief, you are accusing them
of committing a crime. When you say that they are
(33:24):
a Nazi, I mean that is a pretty specific negative connotation.
And Elon Musk has all the money in the world
to bring lawsuits over issues such as these, and I
wonder what exactly the game plan is with the way
that they are trying to lay this out. Do you
think there's any Do you think Jamal Bowman is even
smart enough to even analyze any of this. No, he's
(33:47):
just saying I hate him. He's bad because my team,
the Democrats, don't like him. I don't think you could
easily sue someone for saying you're a Nazi, because that's
a term the Democrats have been throwing around very liberally
for a long time. Thief, though, starts to get a
little bit more specific. I mean, if you said that
somebody is guilty of embezzlement, for example, or corporate fraud. Yeah,
(34:08):
that's defamatory, right unless unless you have a basis for
that of if you get specific enough. You know, you
can't say someone is like a convicted murder or convicted
molester just because you feel like it. That's defamatory. Elon's
not gonna waste his time with this stuff. There's too much.
There's too much of it going on. It's just a
shame that anybody has to be subjected to such stupid commentary.
But that's what you get when you watch CNN. I
(34:30):
gotta say the stuff going on over there is really
it's it's really pathetic. It's the very dumb people appearing
on that network on a very regular basis. You know
what's intriguing to me. Also about Bowman calling Elon a
thief and a Nazi is Bowman lost his seat in
New York to a large extent because he was too
(34:51):
pro Palestinian in the wake of October seventh. So if
anybody's actually a Nazi sympathizer, I think it would be
someone who was defending the Hamas attacks in any way
coming out of Gaza. And so that's Jamal Bowman. So
the irony of him deciding to call Elona nazi Is.
(35:12):
He actually got defeated by Democrat primary voters, not Republicans.
Democrat primary voters because he was too condemnatory of Israel
and their defense in the wake of October seventh. Let's
take John. Do we still have John and mechanicsburg Pa?
John in Pennsylvania, Let's take it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
How are you on the air? Now? Hey?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Okay, No, I was sitting here thinking the past couple
of days about Elon Musk, mister Musk, and I haven't
heard anyone say thank you to that man for what
he done. He didn't have to do what he done.
He went up there and he rescued our astronauts out
(35:57):
of space. And still a year a year ago, every
Democrat wanted a tesla. Now they're blowing them up. You know,
that doesn't make any sense to me. And what really
pissed me off is that I didn't hear one person
say to that man, thank you for what you did.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Thus, mister Musk, thank great call. Totally agree. I said
thank to be. We say that with you, yes, but
you say that to a large extent. I think Elon
deserves a great deal of credit and thanks for many Americans,
we come back. Department of Education ended. We're going to
play you some of the audio of that
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicksoff. Now,
(00:02):
thanks for being here with us, and we got a
lot going on. The war against Elon from the a
lunatic left continues on. You've got AOC out there now,
And you know, we talked to Ryan Gerdusky about this yesterday. Clay.
That was my first sense, and I said it on
the show after the election, that they're going to try
to build AOC up into a national level democrat figure,
(00:26):
a leadership figure, just because of her profile. She's got
the right demographic appeal for them. I mean, there's a
lot of stuff that comes together for them that would
make me think that they would do it. The problem
is she's a socialist and it's not very bright. But
you know, then again, they made Joe Biden president somehow,
so they can figure out a lot of things, right.
(00:47):
But thing you've started to hear more of is they
are using Elon as a pivot to get into the
class warfare thing. So it's like, yeah, okay, inflation is bad,
the price of eggs coming down under Trump, we all know,
but was too high gas, all these things, But what
(01:07):
they really care about is the millionaires and billionaires, right,
the old Bernie Sanders routine and oligaucky. Here's Bernie Sanders
with the usual stuff, saying that they will not accept oligarchy,
played twenty one today.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We are here to say, very loudly and billy, no,
we will not accept an oligarchic form of society were
a handful of billionaires run the government. No, we will
not accept an authoritarian form of society with a president
(01:48):
who undermines the Constitution every day and is working aggressively
to take away our freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Okay, yeah, whatever, Okay. At the point here though, oligauky.
He's talking about oligacky again. And the thing that I
find so interesting is they're clearly trying to create a handoff.
Bernie's too old. They tried this with Biden. They know
that they're not gonna get their hand caught in that
bear trap again, right, the burr or mouse trap or whatever.
Bear trap with a hand would be really tough. But
(02:21):
they aren't gonna do that again. I think they realize
he is too He's in his eighties already, so he's
not eating in four years eighty three, he's not running
it almost ninety Okay, fine, AOC, though, is supposed to
be the beneficiary. It's like Bernie is the elder statesman
and the quote intellectual socialist AOC is the next gen.
They're on this tour. But Batia Hunger Sargan, who had
(02:43):
that great clip on the Bill Marshaw recently about how
happy we all are that Trump is doing what he's
doing and how great things are the Trump voters have
no regrets, nothing but high fives all around. She pointed
out that this whole oligarch thing and the whole Wall
Street for Republican it's all crap, it's all lies. This
is eighteen listen, listener dismantled this well done.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
There is such an irony to Democrats talking about oligarchy because,
of course, for every one billionaire that backed President Trump
Kamala Harris head two nine of the ten richest counties
in America are represented by Democrats. Sixty five percent of
Americans making over five hundred thousand dollars a year today
(03:27):
are Democrats. Seventy five percent of hedge fund managers who
make political donations donate two Democrats, and ninety five percent
of political donations from the top three management consulting firms
go to Democrats. Meanwhile, President Trump absolutely crushed with Americans
who make under one hundred thousand dollars a year. The
Democrats are the party of the wealthy and Donald Trump
(03:51):
is representing the working class because he simply lifted the
pro worker elements of the Democrats' agenda. When they abandon
the working class, who care to their rich base.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
This is all performance, aren't Isn't that so? Well? Doningham
clay those stats, I mean, I am familiar with some
of that before. But if you look at where the money,
big you know, big hedge funds money goes to Democrats.
Government bureaucracy, federal bureaucracy money all go all goes to Democrats.
(04:22):
McKenzie and Bain and these you know, supposedly elite management
consultant firms. Don't even get me started on what they
really do. Democrats, the establishment elites are overwhelmingly Democrats. Now
they're trying to pivot into the oligaukey and we care
about the working class. They don't care. They don't give
a you know what about the working class. I think
(04:43):
social media has exposed how little depth there is behind
these talking points. To your point, Kamala spent a billion
and a half dollars and had far more wealthy people
supporting her in the election of twenty twenty four, then
supported Trump. I was just out in San Francisco, Buck,
(05:03):
Marin County, right across the Golden Gate colonists. Unfortunately, but gorgeous.
That's where I'm going to unbelievably beautiful. I have a
friend from law school who lives in Marin County, and
we went out, had the kids. We went out and
got something to eat, and after I ate dinner there,
(05:23):
I went back. I'm a data nerd. I just wanted
to know because she said, yeah, everybody around here is
a diehard supporter of Kamala Harris. And she said, every
now and then I'll see like a Trump bumper sticker,
and people are You're gonna love this story, Buck, People
are like a ghast. So we were out for dinner
(05:45):
getting pizza. I had my son, she had a couple
of her daughters, and one of her daughter's friends was there,
and we were kind of talking and everything else, and
she said, oh, yeah, you know, mister Clay, he's a
big Trump supporter. And her daughter is in sixth grade
and her daughter's friend was also in sixth grade. Buck,
the daughter's friend looked at me like she thought I
(06:08):
was from another planet. I don't think she had ever
in her life, this little girl who was living in
Marin County, ever seen someone who was a Trump supporter.
And my seventeen year old when we got in the
car to head back to the hotel, he said, Dad,
that girl was terrified when she found out that you
(06:30):
voted for Donald Trump and wore a big Trump supporter
and when you said to her, he's actually a really
nice guy. I told her about the milkshake story, and
I was like, he's a good grandpa. It was as
if I were telling her that I was from Mars.
And I went and looked at the data. Marin County
voted ninety to ten for Kamala Harris, ninety to ten. Buck.
(06:57):
I mean, it's not just that these people are in cults.
It's that they really have bought into the idea that
we're evil people. Look we put on Joy Reid. I
don't think Joy Read's evil. I think she's a moron.
They really think that we are likes in a generous
mood today. Yeah, I mean they think that we're Nazi
(07:18):
stormtroopers and and I look, I mean it really like
I thought about this a lot when I got back
to the hotel, because these are highly educated people. How
can they be so insular that they are not familiar
even with the arguments that are being made. And I thought,
bucked this tied end because do you know where some
(07:40):
of these Teesla dealerships that are now getting firebombed are
Bay Area, right, And a lot of people there feel
somehow as if Twitter, which was certainly based in the
Bay Area, and we've talked about this. San Francisco is
one of the most beautiful cities in the world, that
may be the most beautiful, truly natural geographic city in
all of America, right, just yeah, and they have such
(08:00):
incredible wealth there. I think it's the wealthiest city in
America on a per capita basis. Yet their minds are
so closed that they can't even comprehend some of the arguments.
And they really have bought the idea that we're all
a bunch of Nazi stormtroopers if we vote for Trump.
And it really is just kind of staggering because again,
I disagree with a lot of Democrat voters, but I'm
(08:22):
not trying to argue that they are truly evil. Well,
you made a point in the last hour that I
think is worth hitting again and expanding on a little bit,
and that is that Elon is a trader to his class.
And what's really interesting is that who is the original
(08:43):
great class trader in our lifetime in politics? Donald Trump? Yes,
of course he's not supposed to. He's not supposed to
care about the border. He's not supposed to. You know,
Donald Trump was the billionaire that gets along with and
likes the construction workers and wants them to be able
(09:04):
to live in a nice house and have a nice
wife and a nice family and everything. They that is
a huge problem for the elites and the Donald and
also that Donald Trump didn't have the respect for them,
meaning the New York Times. You know, you show up
that Donald Trump, you say, I went to Harvard. He's like,
who cares? Am I supposed to care? Why am I
supposed to? How'd you get into Harvard? Who cares? You know?
He he sees through a lot of the BS. Elon
(09:27):
is a different kind of trader to his class in
their mind, which is the Silicon Valley. You want to
talk about oligarchs, the Silicon Valley ultra wealthy, ultra high IQ,
global industry dominating figure. They have all. I mean, look
at Google and look at Facebook, and look at you. No,
(09:48):
I know, Facebook started to play the game a little bit,
but you look at all. Silicon Valley has been essentially
the greatest wealth creation and concentration of wealth creation maybe
in human history if you did it on like a
square mile basis, And it has unfortunately filled the country
with horrible ideas. It has filled the United States with
(10:09):
the most left wing because of their dominance and social media,
because of the billions of dollars they've spent on politics
in different election cycles going back for decades now. And
Elon is the first one who has really broken from that,
who's at the absolute top. I mean, he is like
the apex of the pyramid clay and goes, yeah, that
stuff that you guys have been promoted, that's insane. Yeah,
(10:31):
you're wrong. It's destroying this country. That allowed you to
build Facebook, that allowed you to build Google, that allowed
for that massive wealth creation. So he's kind of the
Trump of the Bay Area in a sense, right. Trump
did it for the New York Times and Wall Street
and those elites. Elon has thumbed his nose at the
West Coast Silicon Valley Royalty. That's I think really well
(10:54):
said for East versus West Coast and the symbiosis between
the two. I would also point out really a lot
of what we're talking about is builders versus bureaucrats, people
who create something that didn't exist otherwise. Trump built buildings,
Elon has built companies versus the people who really just
kind of get involved in what has already been built
(11:17):
and use it as their method to continue to make
a living. What do most people in DC build other
than a continued tax on the people who actually build,
and there's a frustration. I think that is what unites
Musk and Trump on some level with a lot of
the people in middle management that they feel like don't
(11:40):
actually create. Trump gets along well with construction workers. Why
would that be because he understands that they actually create
things with their hands. They actually build the buildings that
he's trying to put together. I think with that, without them,
you don't have Trump Tower. That's why he likes Trump Tower.
So thank you for the guys building. That's right. And
Elon has built his car almost exclusively that he sells
(12:02):
in the United states in the United States and uniquely
I think respects the craftsmanship for rockets or ships or
whatever else. They're builders, and a lot of what Democrats
represent now is actually the bureaucrats that effectively are taxes
leeches on the builders. And that disconnect is what's motivating
(12:24):
a lot of the conflict that's going on right now
in the country and why I think Elon is the
new target in combination with the fact that they thought
he was their guy and now they're having to look
around and say, wait a minute, the guy who's done
the most to fight climate change is actually a buddy
with Trump. Well, yeah, and they actually connect and it's
(12:44):
a logical choice in many ways for what Elon has done.
And isn't it also interesting, Clay that you see a
pattern a trend here. Jd Vance. I mean I read
Hillbilly Elogy like so many others did over a decade
ago when it came out. Jade Vance is an incredible
American success story. Yeah, that should be inspiring to everybody
(13:07):
of any background, race, creed, or color to grow. I
mean few things are harder on a young person than
having a broken family and addict mother. He's now the
Vice president of the United States and became a multimillionaire on
his own and served in the Marine Corps before that. Okay, yep,
the left completely negates all that in their mind because
(13:27):
he is the vice president Donald Trump, Elon Musk, some
guys show, they try to say that he's I've read
Eline's biography. I know you have two He is not
a rich kid, meaning like he didn't grow up a
rich kid. Yeah, his Parry's dad had a little bit
of money, but it wasn't he showed up here and
was sleeping on the floor. Uh, and kind of almost
like a weirdo. So devoted to his career. I mean,
(13:47):
he was absolutely all in and has created multiple companies,
employing hundreds of thousands of people and trillions of dollars
of wealth creation over the life of those companies. It's
incredible what he done. And they hate him. They hate him.
And then you look at who the Democrats hold up,
Joe Biden. Joe Biden is a leech. He's a leech.
(14:08):
Most politicians who are professional politicians are leeches. That's the job. Now,
you said earlier, and I think it's true. We need
more people who have success in life. And then decide
to give back to the country and a huge game change.
Trump Elon Yeah, the Trump Elon axis. If you're a
multi billionaire businessman, now, who's better at the game than
(14:30):
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that means, You've got it. And it doesn't mean writing
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about the way they're hitting Elon like crazy people. This
is caught eight. I just want you to hear these
are the kind of conversations we're having about the richest
man of the world, the most impressive CEO in the world.
Over at CNN play it.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
This shows again the American people do not trust Elon Musk.
And Elon Musk is incompetent in his position. And how
do we know because they fired tens of thousands of people.
Is challenging court. The court said the people have to
go back, and now the people are coming back. He
is incompetent, he's a thief, he's a Nazi, and people
(17:12):
don't trust him period.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That's a member of Congress, Jamal Bowman, who is saying
that the former a member former sorry, yeah, former, thank you. Yeah.
That's the alarm puller, alarm powl guy, right, yeah. But
Clay Elon Musk is incompetent or are we really doing this?
We're really doing this. Elon Musk is incompetent thing with Democrats. Now,
he's not the first one or the last one to
say a lot of them are trying this. This is
(17:37):
getting close to defamatory comments on CNN because when you say, uh, look,
you're allowed to speak hyperbolically. And I don't think Jamal
Bowman is smart enough to be intentionally doing this. But
when you call someone a thief, you are opening yourself
up to legal action in a pretty significant way. I
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attacks on Elon and also some of what Trump said
from the oval this more well afternoon morning. It was
(19:03):
pretty close to being one or the other, and it's
really interesting to see how Trump is not backing down
at all. And one thing Clay that really did come
across substantially is that Trump recognizes when these judges and
these Democrats opposed things like getting elite members, these are
(19:26):
not It's not that he's taking Americans who have joined
a gang and just sent them to some foreign prison somewhere.
These are non Americans. They are not supposed to be
in the country in the first place. They're illegal aliens
who are also part of a violent gang that is
a designated terrorist organization. They are being sent out of
the country, and Democrats are going to the mat to
(19:47):
make sure they have maximum due process rights. The same Democrats,
and I mean the same individuals in some cases in
the media and the Democrat Party, who had no problem
with nonviolent j six Americans rotting away in a DC
gulag for a year without trial, are now really concerned
about trend to IRAGUA members. But let's actually get an
(20:09):
update here on the Elon story that was running on
the New York Times, from Under Secretary of Defense Sean Parnell,
who joins us for the first time on the program
since he has taken that senior Pentagon role. I feel
like I should salute Sean, thank you for being with us,
and tell us, tell us what you can about what
(20:31):
happened with the New York Times saying ELM was going
to get all the China war plans.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
It was completely fake. And you want to know what else.
We had a heads up from the New York Times reporter.
I should say there's five reporters on it, but by
one of the reporters the night before that they were
planning to write something like that, and this was the
angle that they were going to take. And we told
them last night that it's not true, Like what are
you doing? That's not true, This is completely fake. Yet
(20:58):
they ran with the story anyway. What's crazy to me, Buck,
is that like this Secretary, Secretary Hegseth has been working
so hard to push peace through strength, to build up
our force, to work to implement the President's agenda. I've
been on the bilateral calls with foreign leaders. I've heard him.
(21:22):
I've heard him make the case for peace through strength.
But articles like this that Elon Musk is going to
come to the Pentagon and get a super secret squirrel
briefing on war plans with potential China, not only does
it undermine the Secretary's you know what his goals and
ambitions are here, which I think is part of the point.
It also is is it's dangerous. It's dangerous because many
(21:46):
of us took this job, Buck, and I know I
speak for the Secretary too, because we've got a lot
of kids our job. I think we've got four years
to get this done. You know as well as I do. Buck.
The operating environment, the threat environment glow is changing rapidly.
We've got to change and evolve our force to meet it.
But we we've got kids that we've got to make
sure that they inherit a world that is better than
(22:08):
the one that we had, that is more prosperous the
one that we had and it's safer, and articles like
that like this from the New York Times work against
that goal, and it just it just makes you wonder
what their motivation is. It's to me, it's just sickening.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They should retract, not only should they retack, Sean, congratulations
on the new job, and thank you for the work
that you're doing there and for hopping on with us.
Don't you think, Sean, that this had to be coming
via a leak in some way to the New York Times?
And if that occurred, wouldn't that be criminal based on
the method that it was distributed? And given the story
(22:46):
that's out there about China war plans, what kind of
investigation can we expect or should take place here?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Well, we're still in the early phases of this, so
we're still trying to wrap our mind around how something
like this could happen. But yeah, certainly it's it's it's
a leak, in this case, a fake one. So whoever,
who the two anonymous defense officials? I mean, you sit
there and you read the article from from the Times,
and you wonder if these anonymous defense officials are even
real people. I don't know. But thankfully in this regard
(23:17):
that the leak was fake and we were able to
control the narrative. But the fact of the matter is
that this, this is a big building where we do
nothing but but plan, plan, plan, for every contingency. And
we can't have you know, anonymous defense officials passing off,
you know, what they think might be classified information to
(23:39):
to reporters who then turn around in public and publish it. Yeah,
that's criminal and and and I'll tell you there there
there have got to be consequences for that. So we're
still trying to figure out how how we approach this.
But yeah, I'll tell you this is, this is on
all of our minds because this isn't this is I mean,
(23:59):
there are politics behind everything, but what we're dealing with
here are are global national security issues that could affect
the safety of Americans or potentially the safety of Americans.
You can't play with that stuff. So yeah, what I
can tell you, we're definitely looking into avenues that we
can you know, investigates the loaded word, but we've got
(24:19):
to do something.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Speaking of Sean Parnell, it's just an under Secretary of
Defense at the Pentagon, formerly as you know, Sean was
a friend of ours here on the Clay and Buck
podcast network, and Sean, just give us a sense of
what some of the top agenda items are right now
that Secretary of Defense hag Seth, and then you working
at the Pentagon with the rest of the team there,
(24:43):
what are some of the top items that you're trying
to do in terms of reform, in terms of transparency
and just war fighting efficiency.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Yeah. So I think the top priority for US Buck
and Clay is defense of the homeland. It's been something
that both Democrat and Republican regimes over the last twenty
thirty years have probably not been as strong as they
needed to be on this. But you know, we're we
are very, very focused on full operational control of the
(25:11):
southern border, and that means the cartels not controlling a
single square mile of anything. That means stopping the flow
of fentannel into our country. It's the number one cause
of death for people in America between eighteen and forty five.
It's absolutely unacceptable. It needed to stop yesterday. I think
we're really focused as well on you know this, this
(25:31):
process will be slower, but a real focus on the
Endo Pacific and deterring China. What looms large over many
of these these BILAC calls. Don't want to go into
deep on what's the substance of the conversations, of course,
but the rising tide of the CCP is something that
looms large over everything. We recognize. It's something that we're
(25:54):
going to have that we've got to focus on. It's
a challenge for sure. The third I think is figuring
out a way to increase burden sharing with our allies.
You know, the truth is our allies need to do
more to both protect their nation and protect protect the
world so that we don't have to. You know, we're
(26:15):
always going to be there, We're always going to step
up when we're going to do our part. But as
I mentioned earlier, the world is changing and evolving rapidly,
and if this country, the world's loans superpower, does not
change rapidly and evolve with it, bad things will happen.
And so those I think buck are the top three
priorities for us. I think, you know, operationally, but internally
(26:37):
to the force, like we're aggressively assessing standards, trying to
get a sense of maybe how things changed over the years.
We've removed all the caustic and divisive diversity, equity and
inclusion nonsense from almost all of our digital platforms, you know,
the climate change insanity, all of the electric tanks crap
that's done and gone at the Pentagon, we're cutting those
(26:59):
pros and reinvesting them into programs that will make us
more capable and lethal. So lots of things that are
happening here depending on in the first two months, and look,
it's going to be pedaled to the metal for us
for the next four years because we really want to
we really want to change things, and we're not going
to waste any time doing it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Talking to Sean Parnell, all of that's incredibly important. I
know there's been a lot of breaking news. I don't
know if you've seen the latest breaking news. Your Pittsburgh
Steelers are currently hosting Aaron Rodgers on a quarterback visit,
so you get an opportunity to step outside of the
world of geopolitics. Right call, wrong call. You've added some
(27:39):
wide receiver weapons. You are a big time Pittsburgh Steeler fan.
For people who don't know, should Aaron Rodgers be the
next quarterback of the terrible Towel Waivers?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Well, let me just tell you this. First of all,
I'm excited as a Steelers fan for DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I just am.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
He's a freaking beast. We need a receiver like him,
a number one ride receiver that can be really a
deep threat. That guy, that guy is extraordinary. He's extraordinary athlete.
He's gonna fit in well in Pittsburgh. Hey, I'm whatever.
It's Aaron Rodgers. We'll give it a go. I think
he's but I'm game, right, I'm game to try anything.
This is the Steelers I think have struggled at quarterback
(28:17):
since Ben Roethlisberger left the team. I've got an all
of the above strategy on this one here, Clay, Like,
it's Aaron Rodgers. He's a Hall of Famer. Let's give
it a go. See what we can accomplish.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Good stuff, Sewan. We appreciate you making the time. Buck.
We still need to get I'm in DC right now,
but we still need to come hang out with you
guys at some point. Sewan down the line and make
sure we get to get tell your story from over
near the Pentagon.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Oh for sure, now that I'm kind of like more settled,
we can definitely make that happen one hundred percent fantastic.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Thank you so much. Sean. Maybe I don't know. I
play says he's never been on an aircraft carry you
know what I mean. Maybe we've got to do some journalism.
That would be pretty cool. Get him on a helo,
get him out to one. I'm just saying that's a
good idea.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
We might be able to make that happen too.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
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and we can talk about it a little bit maybe
in the next hour two. But Jamal Bowman, formerly the
congressman from New York who lost his Democrat opponent in
the primary, lost to his Democratic opponent in the primary,
is no longer in Congress. When you call somebody a
thief and a Night, even with the public figure standard
(33:03):
of speech allowed, you are moving really close to engaging
in defamatory action. And I do wonder whether CNN is
going to have to issue an apology in some way
over this, because when you accuse you're a thief, when
you say someone is a thief, you are accusing them
of committing a crime. When you say that they are
(33:24):
a Nazi, I mean that is a pretty specific negative connotation.
And Elon Musk has all the money in the world
to bring lawsuits over issues such as these, and I
wonder what exactly the game plan is with the way
that they are trying to lay this out. Do you
think there's any Do you think Jamal Bowman is even
smart enough to even analyze any of this. No, he's
(33:47):
just saying I hate him. He's bad because my team,
the Democrats, don't like him. I don't think you could
easily sue someone for saying you're a Nazi, because that's
a term the Democrats have been throwing around very liberally
for a long time. Thief, though, starts to get a
little bit more specific. I mean, if you said that
somebody is guilty of embezzlement, for example, or corporate fraud. Yeah,
(34:08):
that's defamatory, right unless unless you have a basis for
that of if you get specific enough. You know, you
can't say someone is like a convicted murder or convicted
molester just because you feel like it. That's defamatory. Elon's
not gonna waste his time with this stuff. There's too much.
There's too much of it going on. It's just a
shame that anybody has to be subjected to such stupid commentary.
But that's what you get when you watch CNN. I
(34:30):
gotta say the stuff going on over there is really
it's it's really pathetic. It's the very dumb people appearing
on that network on a very regular basis. You know
what's intriguing to me. Also about Bowman calling Elon a
thief and a Nazi is Bowman lost his seat in
New York to a large extent because he was too
(34:51):
pro Palestinian in the wake of October seventh. So if
anybody's actually a Nazi sympathizer, I think it would be
someone who was defending the Hamas attacks in any way
coming out of Gaza. And so that's Jamal Bowman. So
the irony of him deciding to call Elona nazi Is.
(35:12):
He actually got defeated by Democrat primary voters, not Republicans.
Democrat primary voters because he was too condemnatory of Israel
and their defense in the wake of October seventh. Let's
take John. Do we still have John and mechanicsburg Pa?
John in Pennsylvania, Let's take it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
How are you on the air? Now? Hey?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Okay, No, I was sitting here thinking the past couple
of days about Elon Musk, mister Musk, and I haven't
heard anyone say thank you to that man for what
he done. He didn't have to do what he done.
He went up there and he rescued our astronauts out
(35:57):
of space. And still a year a year ago, every
Democrat wanted a tesla. Now they're blowing them up. You know,
that doesn't make any sense to me. And what really
pissed me off is that I didn't hear one person
say to that man, thank you for what you did.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Thus, mister Musk, thank great call. Totally agree. I said
thank to be. We say that with you, yes, but
you say that to a large extent. I think Elon
deserves a great deal of credit and thanks for many Americans,
we come back. Department of Education ended. We're going to
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