March 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features an engaging conversation with Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, who provides an update on the budget and border bill process. Senator Paul expresses concern over the proposed $5 trillion increase to the debt ceiling and discusses the challenges of cutting government spending, highlighting the lack of support from Democrats and some Republicans. He also touches on the embedded costs of COVID-19 in future budgets and the need for fiscal conservatism. The hosts and Senator Paul delve into the inefficiencies and waste in government spending, with specific examples of foreign aid expenditures. They discuss the importance of rescinding funds and the role of the Trump administration in pushing for budget cuts. Senator Paul emphasizes the need for political capital to achieve meaningful reductions in spending and criticizes the ongoing gain-of-function research. Additionally, the hour covers President Trump's decision to pull Rep. Elise Stefanik's nomination for US ambassador to the United Nations due to concerns about maintaining the House majority. Clay and Buck stress the importance of upcoming special elections in Florida and Wisconsin, urging listeners to stay informed and participate to prevent Democrats from gaining control. The show concludes with listener feedback and humorous exchanges, maintaining a lively and interactive atmosphere.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We've been breaking down
all of the absolute latest news out there from across
the nation, and we head now up to I believe
or he is, Washington, d C. Senator Ran Paul of
Kentucky joins us. Now, Senator, we got a lot to
dive into with you. Appreciate you joining us. Let me
(00:22):
just start here right off the top. How is the
budget and border bill process going? How does the timeline
look to you? How would you assess it at this point?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm worried. I'm very worried that they're wanting to add
five trillion dollars to the debt ceiling. All the good
news we've heard about Elon Musk, about cutting contracts and
cutting born aide, all that has been so energizing to
our base, to conservatives like me, we jump for joy,
we cheer, and then they say, well, but the bill's
(00:56):
going to increase the debt ceiling by five filing and
we say, well, how is that possible? We thought we
were cutting spending. Why would we increase it more than
two trillion dollars a year for the next two and
a half years, and there's not a good explanation. And
so I've told them I won't vote for any bill
that adds five trillion to the deficit. That's not physically conservative. Now,
(01:17):
I'll vote for the tax cuts I voted for him
in twenty seventeen. I'll vote to make the tax cuts permanent.
I'll vote for spending cuts, but I didn't vote for
the spending. And I'm damn sure not voting for adding
five trillion dollars to the national debt. I just think
that's outrageous. And people are going to wake up. People
who listen to your show, We're going to wake up
in a couple of months from now and say, my gosh,
(01:39):
I thought we voted for something conservative. I thought those
was cutting all this spending, and yet they're still going
to add two trillion to the death this year. Something's
not right, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Senator Paul appreciates you being with us. We've played for
the audience some sound bites from years past when people
like Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and other very high profile
Democrats talked about stopping fraud, waste, and abuse in government spending,
reining in unnecessary spending. So we know that they've said
(02:10):
stuff like that, But to where we are right now,
it seems like everything that Doze tries to do in
terms of recommendations to the president, and then everything that
Trump tries to do to rein in that spending Democrats opposed.
Are there any Democrats in the Senate who do want
to cut spending? In all honesty, is there anyone who
actually wants to see that number go down for anything
(02:33):
other than the military?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Zero? Not a No Democrat in the entire body of
Congress will vote to cut even a dollar. So I
had an amendment last week that would have cut about oh,
sixteen billion out of four and eight. Four and eight
is about forty billion. I would have cut sixteen billions,
a little less than a half. And this was to
(02:55):
represent what Doze was doing, what Elon Musk had proposed,
what really Cherry Rubio has already said he's canceling these contracts.
I would just put it into law. Zero Democrats voted
for that, But even worse, about half the Republicans voted
against me as well. I got a little over half
of the Republicans with me, about half the Republicans against me,
(03:16):
and the reason I put it forward was to show
that even low hanging fruit, even two million dollars for
sex changes in Guatemala, three hundred thousand dollars for food
justice for queer and transfarmers, crazy stuff like that, you
can't even get all of the Republicans on board, but
(03:38):
you get zero Democrats. So we still have a problem.
And I'm the lonely voice crying out on this because
people are going to be disappointed, and they're going to
be upset, and they're going to be saying what happened?
What happened to the Republicans. When the end of the
year rolls around and there's still a two tillion dollar
deficit this year and the Republicans are anticipated another two
(04:00):
trillion the next year, that it just shows that there
is not a true seriousness even on the Republican side.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
How much of this is the embedded cost of COVID
becoming standardized in budgets going forward? Because we had Senator
Ron Johnson on and he's talked about this quite a lot,
that if we just went back to budget spending twenty nineteen,
that we would have a balanced budget right now.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I know inflation has risen since then, and that there
are other costs that continue to grow. But it does
seem that the growth of the federal government has now
been embedded, which is what Democrats wanted in all future
budget bills, with the idea of being anything that doesn't
continue to grow those rates is considered to be a
massive cut.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think that's true. During pandemic, you know, the deficit
went up to three and a half trillion in a year.
The deficits have come down. So remember Biden was bragging
he's bringing the deficit down. Yeah, well from three and
a half trillion to two trillion, but a lot of
that's spending got embedded into government and still there. But
realize that those pandemic programs, all those free money that
(05:08):
was passed up, all the checks that were passed out,
that was all the Democrats and most of the Republicans.
That was a bipartisan screw up. If you will to
lock the economy down, just print up money. I opposed
every bit of it, every bit of the Cares program.
The PPP. I said you shouldn't lock us down, we
shouldn't do this, and we did. And that's part of it.
(05:30):
But part of it is this disconnect that people will say, oh,
they love you on mus they love the cuts, and
they're not for you know, transgender surgery in Guatemala, and
they're not for all these crazy trans operas in Columbia.
But when push comes to shove, they're at least ten
or fifteen Republicans in the Senate who loved Flournade. They
think it's the best thing since slice bread. I think
(05:52):
it's one of the worst and most egregious of all
the spending we have in Congress. And yet if they
won't cut that, you then say, well, will you cut
any of the entitlements? Whill you look at Medicare or
Medicaid or cert of Security or food stamps or welfare.
Oh no, they're not looking at that either. And you
start to wonder, all these Republicans really conservative at this point.
(06:13):
And mind you, there are zero Democrats. I admit that
there are zero Democrats. But we're trying to pass something
this spring that will be only Republican votes, and yet
we can't get Republican votes even to have the states
pay more of their fair share. So Medicaid normally it's
fifty to fifty. States pay fifty, federal government pay fifty.
(06:33):
But when they expanded Obamacare, they expanded Medicaid, and they
made it ninety percent federal government paid for and ten
percent states. If we just went back to fifty to
fifty says that half a trillion dollars for the federal government,
and it makes it a more conservative program because the
states traditionally have to balance the budgets. They don't have
a federal reserve. And yet we've got five or ten
(06:55):
Republicans in the Senate that won't consider any changes to
having the states pay more of their fair share for medicaid.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
We're speaking of Senator Ran Paula, Kentucky Senator. Is there
anything that the Trump administration you think could do or
you'd like you'd like to see them do, whether it's
leading the charge to try to get something through, involving
the Congress, or just in an executive capacity using executive
orders to try to tackle some of these problems. Because
(07:23):
on the one hand, it's great that we have an
administration that's trying, and you know you're trying. But on
the other hand, if this doesn't work with Trump and
elon people like you and the Senate, what hope is
there for it to get better in the future.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, So I don't blame the administration at all. This
is the best administration we've had in a lifetime. He's
picked the best cabinet. They are action players. They're not
waiting around. I was with Robert Kennedy for breakfast this morning.
He says he's counting ten to twenty thousand workers over there.
They're consolidating programs. They are doing what you would do
as a CEO to clean house. So I don't blame
(07:57):
the executive branch at all. The one thing they could do, though,
is is as they're finding savings, does says they've saved
one hundred and forty semi billion dollars. They should send
that money back to Congress. It's called Recision. It has
a special name, but it can be voted on by
a simple majority. And some of them say, well, we're
worried that four or five of the big government Republicans
(08:20):
in the Senate won't vote for it. That's when President
Trump should use his political capital. He should come to
Capitol Hill and say I'm sending you fifty billions in
cuts every month. I'm going to send you another fifty
billion in cuts, and I need you, as Republicans, to
pull together on it. Instead, the pressure is coming to
me to say, why won't you vote for a spending
(08:43):
bill that attaches five see in in new borrowing. And
it's like, really, it seems like we're at odd purposes
here that on the one hand you have Elon Musk
and Doe's cutting. On the other hand, they're pressuring conservatives
like me to vote for five trillion in borrowing. Something
doesn't sit here.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You see the New York Times over the weekend and
ten days ago or so, a five year anniversary of COVID.
I know you haven't forgotten about it said that we
were misled by.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Where COVID might have come from, and in some of.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Our responders, we were misled by the New York Jobs.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I want to give you an opportunity to tee off
on that because you were one of the first people
to test positive for COVID and the way that you
were treated, the way your family was treated, frankly, was unacceptable.
And now five years later, I do find it very
interesting that the New York Times, like you said, comes
out and says, oh, you know, we were misled. It's
like the arson is saying, boy, somebody's really lighting fires
(09:43):
around here.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, the next step, you know, it is sort of
coming clean, would be to say, not only were misled,
but we were misled by our government and by media
establishment figures who pairted every move and word of Anthony Fauci.
He was wrong virtually on on everything. Six foot of distance,
he's now admitted doesn't work, but actually was bad advice.
(10:05):
It was probably bad advice if you were older and overweight,
or of any kind of sickly nature, to be thirty
feet from somebody in a closed room during the height
of the pandemic, you probably should have been told to
stay home. But six feet of distance, you didn't need
that for kids at all. You can put them all
together because guess what, kids got it very readily, but
they got over it very readily. So the idea that
(10:27):
kids were a danger and somehow shouldn't be in school
or should be six feet apart, and we should build
these monstrous thousand acre schools so the kids could all
be six feet apart. No science behind it, and it
led to bad behavior in the form of adults who
were at risk, and then inappropriate separation and school closure.
On the other end, the masks they told people were in.
(10:48):
A cloth mask was a good idea, So elderly people
went in to feed their elderly spouse with a cloth
mask on. Guess what, that's bad medical advice. That's how
you catch COVID. The cloths don't work at all. But
they went years telling people inappropriate, unhealthy behavior. And then
the one thing they really failed on was once you
got COVID, they should have reassured you that you didn't
(11:10):
need a mask and you didn't have to worry about
catching it again, and that the chances of you dying
were basically zero. After you've got it and recovered, the
chance of getting it again and dying are virtually zero.
And there were a lot of good, hardworking people, people
working in meatpacking factories where they all got COVID early on.
Instead of bundling them up in all this hot clothing,
(11:33):
we should have been saying the good news is when
you come back from work, when you're peeled up in
a week or two, Guess what, You're not going to
get it again and you don't have to wear all
this BS protective gear.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Is there anything that can be done or you think
will be done. You said you just had breakfast this morning,
with RFK Junior he was running HHS. I worry doc that,
well you are doc as well as a senator, so
but I worry that the doctors out there and the
medical established and has not been forced to finally admit
(12:05):
that they were wrong.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And as a matter of.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Government administrative policy, have these things changed. I mean it
should now be to me, at least AHHS that have
officially Hey, guys, we looked at all the data mass
don't work. This is on the AHHS website just so
you know, is that coming.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know, that's a good point and I'm going to
keep fighting that battle as well. But the other way
to correct it is is like all the soldiers that
were fired, they are giving them, you know, the Trump
administration's position now, and I think it was done by
executive orders to let them get their jobs back. We
should do that to the doctors and nurses that were
fired as well. So think about it, the doctors and nurses.
(12:43):
If you were a doctor working in February March of
twenty twenty, it was a pre potent disease then, and
there were doctors who died that if you risked your
life to help people, you've got COVID. You survived, and
you came back to work, and then they said, oh,
you're fired because you don't have a vaccine. And you're like, well,
wait a minute, I got the disease. Why would I
need to get vaccinating if I already got the disease?
(13:03):
And you use common sense on them and they fired you,
those people ought to be reinstated. There's still thousands of
doctors and nurses now in some states. We tried to
fix some of this. In Florida, they passed a law
that said you cannot take a doctor's license for speech. Now,
that would seem to be pretty obvious, but many states,
including California, were saying if you if you were to
(13:27):
say things that I said, often that children don't need
to be vaccinated for COVID, they would say, oh, you
can't say that, and they would try to take my
license away. Nobody did, but in California they did to
other doctors who were saying similar things. There's a lot
of things that need to be corrected. I think we've
learned some lessons, but I fear one we're still paying
(13:47):
for research that could turn into this nightmare again gain
a function. Research still happening in the US and outside
the US funded by tax players. I'm still working on
getting that stopped. But also we need to make sure
that the essence of medical freedom exists in our country
and that people are allowed to make choices for themselves
(14:08):
and not be bullied.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Senator Paul always appreciate you making the time for us.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Thank guys.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
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Speaker 3 (15:42):
Welcome back into Clay Enbucks And we just got some
news coming down here. That's a least Dephonics nomination for
US Ambassador to Medinations has been has been pulled. Not
for any you know, negative reason in terms of Stephonic.
It's because they're worried about the House majority. This is
something we got to pay attention to there's an important
(16:03):
election happening down here in Florida for Tim Walls to
I say, Tim Walls, Mike Walls, Yes, sorry, that's gonna
happen sometimes Mike Walls, who's been the news a lot
this week, for his seat. And there's also a least
dephonic seat in Congress that would have come open, and
they're worried about that. When Clay the one thing you
(16:24):
cannot have is Republicans hand over the House majority in
the first two years of Trump's second term to the Democrats.
It's a three seat but it is a razor thin majority,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And some of you may say, okay, three seats, what's
the impact here. Remember a lot of these representatives are
in their sixties, seventies, even eighties, and so if you
get one person who gets sick or two people who
get sick and have some sort of health related issue,
there may not be enough people to be able to
give a Republican majority. So I give credit to Elie Staphonic,
(17:02):
but I mean this is a sign of how narrow
this margin is that the Trump team, I think looked
at this and said, Okay, we can't risk it and
next week, many of you in Florida, Matt Gates's seat
is going to be filled in the Panhandle area, which
I know well, I live part of the year down there.
That's going to happen and should be fine. But in
(17:24):
this Florida six this Florida sixth congressional district, which Trump
won by nearly thirty points, it is a very safe
Republican seat. They are out spending Republicans eight to one,
and they are counting on a lot of you not
showing up for this special election. We need to talk
about this. It's a big deal. Yeah, we need to
raise the alarm about this. When they're trying to sneak
(17:45):
a seat, they're trying.
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, So I know a lot of you are going
to say, wait a minute, Clay. We just had an election.
We just had November fifth. We just celebrated we won
the presidency, who won the House?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
We won the Senate.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But the House majority is tenuous, comes down to a
few seats Tuesday. Two of the seats are being filled
by guys who step down Matt Gates in Florida. One
is going to be replaced by Jimmy Patronis.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I know Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's done really good work in the state of Florida.
All of you out there in the Panhandle Florida one,
you need to get out and vote. But I want
to talk about Florida six here. This is the seat
that was relinquished by Mike Waltz when he decided to
join the Trump cabinet, the Trump administration. It is a
(19:40):
very comfortable Trump district. But I want to hit you
with these numbers. Buck you were also just reading this.
The Democrats, in an effort to try to steal this seat,
have spent nine point seven million dollars in Florida six
compared to the five hundred and sixty thousand dollars spent
(20:05):
by Randy Fine, who is the Republican candidate. This is
a very pro Trump district. You guys, I understand you
just voted. You need to get back out and vote.
Because they're concerned enough about how tenuous this House majority
(20:25):
is that they just pull the least Stephanics un ambassador
role over being concerned about her.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
New York congressional seat.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And then you've got two different seats that are available
for the remainder of the term that are up on
April first, that's Tuesday. I think a lot of you
listening to us in Florida right now may not even
be aware this is going on because so many of
you right after the election, you're taking a breather, you're
(20:55):
kicking back, you're enjoying the results of the Trump victory.
But you need need to turn out again because if
Democrats can whittle down and take back the House, they're
not passing anything that Trump wants to get done. And
this is going to be the risk next year in
the midterm when all four hundred and thirty five House
seats are up for grabs, And we'll have to see
(21:16):
how that goes next year. But in the meantime, we
got to preserve what we've already won. And so if
you're listening to us in Florida right now, or you've
got friends and family, these are very Trump districts. Trump
won Florida one by thirty seven. He won Florida six
by thirty But a lot of the people that voted
for Trump may not be coming out. They may not
(21:39):
even be aware of these special elections. So this is
I think just hey, pay attention, keep your head on
a swivel here.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, I mean, it would be it would be a
disastrous state of affairs for the Trump agenda. If we
were to lose control of the House, even with the
very narrow control that we have, it still is effectively there.
So that's something that we need to keep an eye on.
And it's interesting to see how Democrats are able to
funnel I'm sure, Clay, if you looked at it's public information, right,
(22:08):
I'm just guessing. But the of the almost ten million
dollars the Democrat has raised in this district, remember a
district that Trump won by thirty points. Okay, ten million
dollars for a congressional seat that you are minus thirty
in the last election, which was just a few months ago,
just goes to show you Democrats they will funnel cash in.
I bet a huge percentage of it is money out
(22:30):
of the out of the district from you know, it's
money that's coming in from New York and Los Angeles,
and you know, people are giving money to whatever they
have to to try to sneak this congressional seat into
the Democrat column. So, you know, we sit here, we
talk about the Democrats have no messaging, which is true.
They do have a lot of money. Though they totally
outspent Trump the last time around. They totally outspend Trump
(22:51):
the first time around, and they will do things like this,
which is something we have to be prepared for. So
if you're listening, you know we're on in this area,
in the sixth district of Florida. We have a huge
Florida audience. Thank you very much, Floridians. Our Florida audience
has grown by I think overall like twenty five or
thirty percent in the last couple of years. So we
(23:14):
have a lot of Floridians that are listening, and I
know some of you in that Daytona Beach area.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right, that's I think roughly roughly what this.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So if you're listening to us in the Daytona Beach area,
you cannot let the Democrats take this one. Get out there.
This is where also yard signs, I mean the basic stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Right. This is going to be a.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Small number overall of people who are determining this congressional seat.
So if you're listening to us and you're in this district,
whatever you can do makes a difference. This is not
you know, oh, but do I really does the president
need my vote? Randy find needs your vote? Get out there?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, And it is I think true. If you look
at the data that the die hard left wing, crazy
town base of the Democrats does better at showing up
on special elections than the average Republican voter does. They're
super committed for these things that a lot of people
don't pay attention to. That they do better at primary turnout,
(24:09):
they do better in special elections. We do better as
a party in mid terms when they're actually big midterms.
In election now with presidential races, the turnout is very good.
But don't get caught napping. And to your point, I mean,
think about that nearly. I'm always bad at math live.
But we're talking about twenty to one being outspent in
(24:31):
that Florida sixth congressional district, so they think they can
steal it. And by the way, also if you're up
on the Panhandle, get out and vote as well. Again,
I don't think we're pressing the alarm too soon. But
if they were super confident about their majority, at least
Stephonic wouldn't be stepping down from the UN ambassador position.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But I will make this. I'll make this prediction right
now so we can log this as a prediction. At
least Dephonic is uh the after this next cycle is
gonna end up getting something even more exciting in the
Trump administration than a US Ambassador to the UN role,
which is which is high up there obviously, but I
think she could be in line for something even a
(25:16):
little more exciting because for her to obviously voluntarily say okay, okay,
I'm not gonna take the that US Ambassador to the
UN role. I'm gonna stay in Congress offense to Congress.
But there's a lot of them, uh, they're they're gonna,
they're making some kind of a sweetheart deal for her
to to to do what's right for the team.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
And I think she's willing to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Again, I don't want to speculate on who. I also
think buck this tells us that there may be some
health issues in the larger Republican caucus because it only
takes again, we've seen this happen. Look at what happened
with Diane Feinstein at the end of her tenure as
the Senator from California. What's happened with Mitch McConnell and
(25:57):
and his health the falls that he's had. When you
start getting people in their seventies and eighties, this is
one of the dangers of having a gear intocracy. When
it comes to leadership. People age differently, as many of
you know, but you can go from very healthy in
your seventies to really in dire strait very quickly. And
(26:18):
there are a lot of people in their seventies and
eighties who are a part of our leadership. And so
when you've got to margin this fine, this tiny, I
think that everybody needs to make sure it makes certain
that they make rational, good decisions and get out and
vote in these races.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So this also is a powerful reminder that while we
sit here and it has been there's been a little
bit of political euphoria in the first sixty days of
Trump's term because of the team he's assembled and the
accomplishments they're racking up and the focus the messaging it's
been this is fantastic stuff. Okay, they've they've been doing
(26:55):
everything that we want them to do and then some.
But remember from the beginning we said, they've really we
have twelve to eighteen months to save the country or
to make meaningful, lasting change for the United States in
very positive ways. This this midterm election is going it's
gonna be a dogfight. It just is that's the reality
(27:16):
of being the party in power. And it's not like
we're going into it with fifteen or twenty seats of majority.
So on the Senate side, I think it looks a
lot better. But if Democrats were to take the House,
oh my gosh, they you know, the hearings, they'll find something.
They'll be having hearings on signal Gate, you know, and
it's the whole thing. They're just going to go into.
(27:38):
Anything to slow down and mess up Trump is justified
and necessary. So it's it reminds us all that there
is a finite window here to get very important stuff
done to fix the country. Hopefully it doesn't become an
issue because we keep the majority and Trump can keep
doing great stuff. But can't. You can't plan on that.
You gotta plan on getting it done now.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No doubt.
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We've got a bunch of you weighing in who are
in those districts in Florida. Barbara calling in from Saint Augustine, Florida.
You say you just heard about the race again. The
Democrats are smart about organizing. They're trying to take advantage
of Republicans not being aware of what's going on.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Absolutely, they are not aware.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
I just saw my first sign today. I haven't heard
anything on the radio, haven't heard anything on TV. I
heard you guys, and I said, oh, so that's what
that sign is. And so they're not aware here. So
it's from stem to The district is from St. Augustine
to South Daytona.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
And can you can you get on like the Facebook
local Facebook patriots and and you know, do some yard
like can you tell people spread the word because there's
not a ton of people in your district and this
is a race that we got to win.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
There is I actually don't have any social media. I know,
it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Good for you, by the way.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, I haven't had it in probably ten years.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
But yeah, there are neighborhood things around and stuff that
I will definitely talk to my neighbors and have them
get on there and definitely pass the word because this
is too important to miss, too important.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
No, doubt, and and speaking of what we were discussing,
Buck Speaker Mike Johnson has just weighed in and said,
because we're talking about how tight this is going to
be in the House, a least staphonic, great leader, devoted patriot.
Today's selfless decision shows America what those of us have
known already about her. She's deeply devoted the country, fully
committed to the President. Again, he says, I will invite
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her to return to the leadership table immediately. No doubt
she would have served with distinction as ambassador to the
United Nations. But they need her and they need you
because this margin in the House is on a pinprick
one way or the other. And frankly, we've got to
get got to get people out to vote come Tuesday,
(32:27):
because that's going to be here soon. And I know,
again a lot of you still kind of kicking back
and you know, celebrating the November election, and they're taking
advantage of the fact that a lot of people are
not engaged. They're out spending the Republicans twenty to one
in this floor to six race, which is pretty crazy
to think about in an effort to try to put
(32:48):
themselves in a position to steal back control of the House.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Very important stuff going on here. Also, we're getting emails
about it isn't just This comes from Eric, one of
our vs on the VIP special inbox here, it isn't
just Florida. The Democrats are targeting to steal a congressional race.
They're targeting two congressional seats here in Wisconsin. The Gems
are funneling millions of out of state money to win
the Supreme Court to redraw the congressional map here in Wisconsin,
(33:15):
to steal two seats from the House. House Minority Leader
Hakim Jeffries has already said the quiet part out loud.
Need to get the word out there more as well.
Keep it the good work Eric in Wisconsin. Well, Eric,
you're doing the good work too, letting people know that
this is very important and that if you're up in Wisconsin,
you're listening as we're on a wisent up there, huge
(33:35):
audience Number one, Thank you so much. You got to
get the word out too to people, because when you're
talking congressional race, grassroots telling.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
People, you know, getting the word out.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
These are races that could be determined by a few thousand,
maybe even a few hundred a few hundred votes depends.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I bet buck in Wisconsin where you're talking about. Trump
won the state of Wisconsin by thirty thousand votes. We
had the Senate race come down to what like ten
thousand ish votes twenty thousand votes there. In other words,
there is a tiny minuscule difference. As we all know,
Ron Johnson won reelection by about twenty thousand votes. There's
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very little difference between either party in the state of
Wisconsin right now. In fact, I haven't heard a lot
of people talk about it. Maybe having the Republican National
Convention in the Milwaukee area might have been what helped
to get the Republican ticket In terms of Trump over
the line and air Coved, we know was about as
close as you can possibly get to winning that seat
(34:34):
as well. So they are going to do whatever they
can to be as aggressive as they can to try
to get back control of the House between now and
next November. So you got to keep your head on
a swivel. You've got to be aware of what's going on.
And I think a lot of people who live in
Florida six and Florida one, for instance, are just hearing
from us right now and they're like, oh wow, yeah,
(34:55):
we do have a race to figure out who the
replacement is going to be.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Don't let them steal this.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And I want to get some of our talkbacks here.
I'm trying to let you do it. We have let's see,
we've got chuck back coming from uh, let's do it.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
Hey, guys, great show, Clay. You gotta let go of
the Sydney Sweeney thing. Man, she doesn't even look anything
like snow White. It's a terrible, terrible take. Like there
are multiple actresses that could play her. You could do
Mackenzie Foy or Bailey Madison or Lucy Hale. They all
(35:36):
actually look a little bit like snow White. Just let
go of that terrible take.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Man, I don't know who any people are.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Do you know who any of those actresses that he
just that he just named her. I'm gonna be honest.
I just had a revelation. I just had a revelation
as he was saying this that applies to both of us.
To be fair, I am I'm too old to know
who the best actresses to play snow White because snow
White should be twenty maybe something like that. And I
(36:08):
don't know who the actresses are who are good? Who
are in that age? I said Anna to Armis is
like forty. I've just found out, so you know, I
don't know anything anymore. It would actually be pretty creepy
if you and I knew all of the best twenty
year old actresses who should play snow White. Like that
guy just called in. He's like, you're talking about Sidney.
She's the most famo, one of the most famous actresses
in the world. She would kill it. They would have
made a billion dollars. He's wrong, but he just ran
(36:30):
through three random actresses that neither you nor I know.
I think maybe he's the guy with more explaining the
do than me. I'm looking at Lucy Hale. She does
look just like snow White, but she's thirty five. That's
too old. Sidney Sweeney's the big
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We've been breaking down
all of the absolute latest news out there from across
the nation, and we head now up to I believe
or he is, Washington, d C. Senator Ran Paul of
Kentucky joins us. Now, Senator, we got a lot to
dive into with you. Appreciate you joining us. Let me
(00:22):
just start here right off the top. How is the
budget and border bill process going? How does the timeline
look to you? How would you assess it at this point?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm worried. I'm very worried that they're wanting to add
five trillion dollars to the debt ceiling. All the good
news we've heard about Elon Musk, about cutting contracts and
cutting born aide, all that has been so energizing to
our base, to conservatives like me, we jump for joy,
we cheer, and then they say, well, but the bill's
(00:56):
going to increase the debt ceiling by five filing and
we say, well, how is that possible? We thought we
were cutting spending. Why would we increase it more than
two trillion dollars a year for the next two and
a half years, and there's not a good explanation. And
so I've told them I won't vote for any bill
that adds five trillion to the deficit. That's not physically conservative. Now,
(01:17):
I'll vote for the tax cuts I voted for him
in twenty seventeen. I'll vote to make the tax cuts permanent.
I'll vote for spending cuts, but I didn't vote for
the spending. And I'm damn sure not voting for adding
five trillion dollars to the national debt. I just think
that's outrageous. And people are going to wake up. People
who listen to your show, We're going to wake up
in a couple of months from now and say, my gosh,
(01:39):
I thought we voted for something conservative. I thought those
was cutting all this spending, and yet they're still going
to add two trillion to the death this year. Something's
not right, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Senator Paul appreciates you being with us. We've played for
the audience some sound bites from years past when people
like Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and other very high profile
Democrats talked about stopping fraud, waste, and abuse in government spending,
reining in unnecessary spending. So we know that they've said
(02:10):
stuff like that, But to where we are right now,
it seems like everything that Doze tries to do in
terms of recommendations to the president, and then everything that
Trump tries to do to rein in that spending Democrats opposed.
Are there any Democrats in the Senate who do want
to cut spending? In all honesty, is there anyone who
actually wants to see that number go down for anything
(02:33):
other than the military?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Zero? Not a No Democrat in the entire body of
Congress will vote to cut even a dollar. So I
had an amendment last week that would have cut about oh,
sixteen billion out of four and eight. Four and eight
is about forty billion. I would have cut sixteen billions,
a little less than a half. And this was to
(02:55):
represent what Doze was doing, what Elon Musk had proposed,
what really Cherry Rubio has already said he's canceling these contracts.
I would just put it into law. Zero Democrats voted
for that, But even worse, about half the Republicans voted
against me as well. I got a little over half
of the Republicans with me, about half the Republicans against me,
(03:16):
and the reason I put it forward was to show
that even low hanging fruit, even two million dollars for
sex changes in Guatemala, three hundred thousand dollars for food
justice for queer and transfarmers, crazy stuff like that, you
can't even get all of the Republicans on board, but
(03:38):
you get zero Democrats. So we still have a problem.
And I'm the lonely voice crying out on this because
people are going to be disappointed, and they're going to
be upset, and they're going to be saying what happened?
What happened to the Republicans. When the end of the
year rolls around and there's still a two tillion dollar
deficit this year and the Republicans are anticipated another two
(04:00):
trillion the next year, that it just shows that there
is not a true seriousness even on the Republican side.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
How much of this is the embedded cost of COVID
becoming standardized in budgets going forward? Because we had Senator
Ron Johnson on and he's talked about this quite a lot,
that if we just went back to budget spending twenty nineteen,
that we would have a balanced budget right now.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I know inflation has risen since then, and that there
are other costs that continue to grow. But it does
seem that the growth of the federal government has now
been embedded, which is what Democrats wanted in all future
budget bills, with the idea of being anything that doesn't
continue to grow those rates is considered to be a
massive cut.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think that's true. During pandemic, you know, the deficit
went up to three and a half trillion in a year.
The deficits have come down. So remember Biden was bragging
he's bringing the deficit down. Yeah, well from three and
a half trillion to two trillion, but a lot of
that's spending got embedded into government and still there. But
realize that those pandemic programs, all those free money that
(05:08):
was passed up, all the checks that were passed out,
that was all the Democrats and most of the Republicans.
That was a bipartisan screw up. If you will to
lock the economy down, just print up money. I opposed
every bit of it, every bit of the Cares program.
The PPP. I said you shouldn't lock us down, we
shouldn't do this, and we did. And that's part of it.
(05:30):
But part of it is this disconnect that people will say, oh,
they love you on mus they love the cuts, and
they're not for you know, transgender surgery in Guatemala, and
they're not for all these crazy trans operas in Columbia.
But when push comes to shove, they're at least ten
or fifteen Republicans in the Senate who loved Flournade. They
think it's the best thing since slice bread. I think
(05:52):
it's one of the worst and most egregious of all
the spending we have in Congress. And yet if they
won't cut that, you then say, well, will you cut
any of the entitlements? Whill you look at Medicare or
Medicaid or cert of Security or food stamps or welfare.
Oh no, they're not looking at that either. And you
start to wonder, all these Republicans really conservative at this point.
(06:13):
And mind you, there are zero Democrats. I admit that
there are zero Democrats. But we're trying to pass something
this spring that will be only Republican votes, and yet
we can't get Republican votes even to have the states
pay more of their fair share. So Medicaid normally it's
fifty to fifty. States pay fifty, federal government pay fifty.
(06:33):
But when they expanded Obamacare, they expanded Medicaid, and they
made it ninety percent federal government paid for and ten
percent states. If we just went back to fifty to
fifty says that half a trillion dollars for the federal government,
and it makes it a more conservative program because the
states traditionally have to balance the budgets. They don't have
a federal reserve. And yet we've got five or ten
(06:55):
Republicans in the Senate that won't consider any changes to
having the states pay more of their fair share for medicaid.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
We're speaking of Senator Ran Paula, Kentucky Senator. Is there
anything that the Trump administration you think could do or
you'd like you'd like to see them do, whether it's
leading the charge to try to get something through, involving
the Congress, or just in an executive capacity using executive
orders to try to tackle some of these problems. Because
(07:23):
on the one hand, it's great that we have an
administration that's trying, and you know you're trying. But on
the other hand, if this doesn't work with Trump and
elon people like you and the Senate, what hope is
there for it to get better in the future.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, So I don't blame the administration at all. This
is the best administration we've had in a lifetime. He's
picked the best cabinet. They are action players. They're not
waiting around. I was with Robert Kennedy for breakfast this morning.
He says he's counting ten to twenty thousand workers over there.
They're consolidating programs. They are doing what you would do
as a CEO to clean house. So I don't blame
(07:57):
the executive branch at all. The one thing they could do, though,
is is as they're finding savings, does says they've saved
one hundred and forty semi billion dollars. They should send
that money back to Congress. It's called Recision. It has
a special name, but it can be voted on by
a simple majority. And some of them say, well, we're
worried that four or five of the big government Republicans
(08:20):
in the Senate won't vote for it. That's when President
Trump should use his political capital. He should come to
Capitol Hill and say I'm sending you fifty billions in
cuts every month. I'm going to send you another fifty
billion in cuts, and I need you, as Republicans, to
pull together on it. Instead, the pressure is coming to
me to say, why won't you vote for a spending
(08:43):
bill that attaches five see in in new borrowing. And
it's like, really, it seems like we're at odd purposes
here that on the one hand you have Elon Musk
and Doe's cutting. On the other hand, they're pressuring conservatives
like me to vote for five trillion in borrowing. Something
doesn't sit here.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You see the New York Times over the weekend and
ten days ago or so, a five year anniversary of COVID.
I know you haven't forgotten about it said that we
were misled by.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Where COVID might have come from, and in some of.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Our responders, we were misled by the New York Jobs.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I want to give you an opportunity to tee off
on that because you were one of the first people
to test positive for COVID and the way that you
were treated, the way your family was treated, frankly, was unacceptable.
And now five years later, I do find it very
interesting that the New York Times, like you said, comes
out and says, oh, you know, we were misled. It's
like the arson is saying, boy, somebody's really lighting fires
(09:43):
around here.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, the next step, you know, it is sort of
coming clean, would be to say, not only were misled,
but we were misled by our government and by media
establishment figures who pairted every move and word of Anthony Fauci.
He was wrong virtually on on everything. Six foot of distance,
he's now admitted doesn't work, but actually was bad advice.
(10:05):
It was probably bad advice if you were older and overweight,
or of any kind of sickly nature, to be thirty
feet from somebody in a closed room during the height
of the pandemic, you probably should have been told to
stay home. But six feet of distance, you didn't need
that for kids at all. You can put them all
together because guess what, kids got it very readily, but
they got over it very readily. So the idea that
(10:27):
kids were a danger and somehow shouldn't be in school
or should be six feet apart, and we should build
these monstrous thousand acre schools so the kids could all
be six feet apart. No science behind it, and it
led to bad behavior in the form of adults who
were at risk, and then inappropriate separation and school closure.
On the other end, the masks they told people were in.
(10:48):
A cloth mask was a good idea, So elderly people
went in to feed their elderly spouse with a cloth
mask on. Guess what, that's bad medical advice. That's how
you catch COVID. The cloths don't work at all. But
they went years telling people inappropriate, unhealthy behavior. And then
the one thing they really failed on was once you
got COVID, they should have reassured you that you didn't
(11:10):
need a mask and you didn't have to worry about
catching it again, and that the chances of you dying
were basically zero. After you've got it and recovered, the
chance of getting it again and dying are virtually zero.
And there were a lot of good, hardworking people, people
working in meatpacking factories where they all got COVID early on.
Instead of bundling them up in all this hot clothing,
(11:33):
we should have been saying the good news is when
you come back from work, when you're peeled up in
a week or two, Guess what, You're not going to
get it again and you don't have to wear all
this BS protective gear.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Is there anything that can be done or you think
will be done. You said you just had breakfast this morning,
with RFK Junior he was running HHS. I worry doc that,
well you are doc as well as a senator, so
but I worry that the doctors out there and the
medical established and has not been forced to finally admit
(12:05):
that they were wrong.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And as a matter of.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Government administrative policy, have these things changed. I mean it
should now be to me, at least AHHS that have
officially Hey, guys, we looked at all the data mass
don't work. This is on the AHHS website just so
you know, is that coming.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know, that's a good point and I'm going to
keep fighting that battle as well. But the other way
to correct it is is like all the soldiers that
were fired, they are giving them, you know, the Trump
administration's position now, and I think it was done by
executive orders to let them get their jobs back. We
should do that to the doctors and nurses that were
fired as well. So think about it, the doctors and nurses.
(12:43):
If you were a doctor working in February March of
twenty twenty, it was a pre potent disease then, and
there were doctors who died that if you risked your
life to help people, you've got COVID. You survived, and
you came back to work, and then they said, oh,
you're fired because you don't have a vaccine. And you're like, well,
wait a minute, I got the disease. Why would I
need to get vaccinating if I already got the disease?
(13:03):
And you use common sense on them and they fired you,
those people ought to be reinstated. There's still thousands of
doctors and nurses now in some states. We tried to
fix some of this. In Florida, they passed a law
that said you cannot take a doctor's license for speech. Now,
that would seem to be pretty obvious, but many states,
including California, were saying if you if you were to
(13:27):
say things that I said, often that children don't need
to be vaccinated for COVID, they would say, oh, you
can't say that, and they would try to take my
license away. Nobody did, but in California they did to
other doctors who were saying similar things. There's a lot
of things that need to be corrected. I think we've
learned some lessons, but I fear one we're still paying
(13:47):
for research that could turn into this nightmare again gain
a function. Research still happening in the US and outside
the US funded by tax players. I'm still working on
getting that stopped. But also we need to make sure
that the essence of medical freedom exists in our country
and that people are allowed to make choices for themselves
(14:08):
and not be bullied.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Senator Paul always appreciate you making the time for us.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Thank guys.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Look, we were just talking.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
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Speaker 3 (15:42):
Welcome back into Clay Enbucks And we just got some
news coming down here. That's a least Dephonics nomination for
US Ambassador to Medinations has been has been pulled. Not
for any you know, negative reason in terms of Stephonic.
It's because they're worried about the House majority. This is
something we got to pay attention to there's an important
(16:03):
election happening down here in Florida for Tim Walls to
I say, Tim Walls, Mike Walls, Yes, sorry, that's gonna
happen sometimes Mike Walls, who's been the news a lot
this week, for his seat. And there's also a least
dephonic seat in Congress that would have come open, and
they're worried about that. When Clay the one thing you
(16:24):
cannot have is Republicans hand over the House majority in
the first two years of Trump's second term to the Democrats.
It's a three seat but it is a razor thin majority,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And some of you may say, okay, three seats, what's
the impact here. Remember a lot of these representatives are
in their sixties, seventies, even eighties, and so if you
get one person who gets sick or two people who
get sick and have some sort of health related issue,
there may not be enough people to be able to
give a Republican majority. So I give credit to Elie Staphonic,
(17:02):
but I mean this is a sign of how narrow
this margin is that the Trump team, I think looked
at this and said, Okay, we can't risk it and
next week, many of you in Florida, Matt Gates's seat
is going to be filled in the Panhandle area, which
I know well, I live part of the year down there.
That's going to happen and should be fine. But in
(17:24):
this Florida six this Florida sixth congressional district, which Trump
won by nearly thirty points, it is a very safe
Republican seat. They are out spending Republicans eight to one,
and they are counting on a lot of you not
showing up for this special election. We need to talk
about this. It's a big deal. Yeah, we need to
raise the alarm about this. When they're trying to sneak
(17:45):
a seat, they're trying.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, So I know a lot of you are going
to say, wait a minute, Clay. We just had an election.
We just had November fifth. We just celebrated we won
the presidency, who won the House?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
We won the Senate.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But the House majority is tenuous, comes down to a
few seats Tuesday. Two of the seats are being filled
by guys who step down Matt Gates in Florida. One
is going to be replaced by Jimmy Patronis.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I know Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's done really good work in the state of Florida.
All of you out there in the Panhandle Florida one,
you need to get out and vote. But I want
to talk about Florida six here. This is the seat
that was relinquished by Mike Waltz when he decided to
join the Trump cabinet, the Trump administration. It is a
(19:40):
very comfortable Trump district. But I want to hit you
with these numbers. Buck you were also just reading this.
The Democrats, in an effort to try to steal this seat,
have spent nine point seven million dollars in Florida six
compared to the five hundred and sixty thousand dollars spent
(20:05):
by Randy Fine, who is the Republican candidate. This is
a very pro Trump district. You guys, I understand you
just voted. You need to get back out and vote.
Because they're concerned enough about how tenuous this House majority
(20:25):
is that they just pull the least Stephanics un ambassador
role over being concerned about her.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
New York congressional seat.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And then you've got two different seats that are available
for the remainder of the term that are up on
April first, that's Tuesday. I think a lot of you
listening to us in Florida right now may not even
be aware this is going on because so many of
you right after the election, you're taking a breather, you're
(20:55):
kicking back, you're enjoying the results of the Trump victory.
But you need need to turn out again because if
Democrats can whittle down and take back the House, they're
not passing anything that Trump wants to get done. And
this is going to be the risk next year in
the midterm when all four hundred and thirty five House
seats are up for grabs, And we'll have to see
(21:16):
how that goes next year. But in the meantime, we
got to preserve what we've already won. And so if
you're listening to us in Florida right now, or you've
got friends and family, these are very Trump districts. Trump
won Florida one by thirty seven. He won Florida six
by thirty But a lot of the people that voted
for Trump may not be coming out. They may not
(21:39):
even be aware of these special elections. So this is
I think just hey, pay attention, keep your head on
a swivel here.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, I mean, it would be it would be a
disastrous state of affairs for the Trump agenda. If we
were to lose control of the House, even with the
very narrow control that we have, it still is effectively there.
So that's something that we need to keep an eye on.
And it's interesting to see how Democrats are able to
funnel I'm sure, Clay, if you looked at it's public information, right,
(22:08):
I'm just guessing. But the of the almost ten million
dollars the Democrat has raised in this district, remember a
district that Trump won by thirty points. Okay, ten million
dollars for a congressional seat that you are minus thirty
in the last election, which was just a few months ago,
just goes to show you Democrats they will funnel cash in.
I bet a huge percentage of it is money out
(22:30):
of the out of the district from you know, it's
money that's coming in from New York and Los Angeles,
and you know, people are giving money to whatever they
have to to try to sneak this congressional seat into
the Democrat column. So, you know, we sit here, we
talk about the Democrats have no messaging, which is true.
They do have a lot of money. Though they totally
outspent Trump the last time around. They totally outspend Trump
(22:51):
the first time around, and they will do things like this,
which is something we have to be prepared for. So
if you're listening, you know we're on in this area,
in the sixth district of Florida. We have a huge
Florida audience. Thank you very much, Floridians. Our Florida audience
has grown by I think overall like twenty five or
thirty percent in the last couple of years. So we
(23:14):
have a lot of Floridians that are listening, and I
know some of you in that Daytona Beach area.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right, that's I think roughly roughly what this.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So if you're listening to us in the Daytona Beach area,
you cannot let the Democrats take this one. Get out there.
This is where also yard signs, I mean the basic stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Right. This is going to be a.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Small number overall of people who are determining this congressional seat.
So if you're listening to us and you're in this district,
whatever you can do makes a difference. This is not
you know, oh, but do I really does the president
need my vote? Randy find needs your vote? Get out there?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, And it is I think true. If you look
at the data that the die hard left wing, crazy
town base of the Democrats does better at showing up
on special elections than the average Republican voter does. They're
super committed for these things that a lot of people
don't pay attention to. That they do better at primary turnout,
(24:09):
they do better in special elections. We do better as
a party in mid terms when they're actually big midterms.
In election now with presidential races, the turnout is very good.
But don't get caught napping. And to your point, I mean,
think about that nearly. I'm always bad at math live.
But we're talking about twenty to one being outspent in
(24:31):
that Florida sixth congressional district, so they think they can
steal it. And by the way, also if you're up
on the Panhandle, get out and vote as well. Again,
I don't think we're pressing the alarm too soon. But
if they were super confident about their majority, at least
Stephonic wouldn't be stepping down from the UN ambassador position.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But I will make this. I'll make this prediction right
now so we can log this as a prediction. At
least Dephonic is uh the after this next cycle is
gonna end up getting something even more exciting in the
Trump administration than a US Ambassador to the UN role,
which is which is high up there obviously, but I
think she could be in line for something even a
(25:16):
little more exciting because for her to obviously voluntarily say okay, okay,
I'm not gonna take the that US Ambassador to the
UN role. I'm gonna stay in Congress offense to Congress.
But there's a lot of them, uh, they're they're gonna,
they're making some kind of a sweetheart deal for her
to to to do what's right for the team.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
And I think she's willing to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Again, I don't want to speculate on who. I also
think buck this tells us that there may be some
health issues in the larger Republican caucus because it only
takes again, we've seen this happen. Look at what happened
with Diane Feinstein at the end of her tenure as
the Senator from California. What's happened with Mitch McConnell and
(25:57):
and his health the falls that he's had. When you
start getting people in their seventies and eighties, this is
one of the dangers of having a gear intocracy. When
it comes to leadership. People age differently, as many of
you know, but you can go from very healthy in
your seventies to really in dire strait very quickly. And
(26:18):
there are a lot of people in their seventies and
eighties who are a part of our leadership. And so
when you've got to margin this fine, this tiny, I
think that everybody needs to make sure it makes certain
that they make rational, good decisions and get out and
vote in these races.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So this also is a powerful reminder that while we
sit here and it has been there's been a little
bit of political euphoria in the first sixty days of
Trump's term because of the team he's assembled and the
accomplishments they're racking up and the focus the messaging it's
been this is fantastic stuff. Okay, they've they've been doing
(26:55):
everything that we want them to do and then some.
But remember from the beginning we said, they've really we
have twelve to eighteen months to save the country or
to make meaningful, lasting change for the United States in
very positive ways. This this midterm election is going it's
gonna be a dogfight. It just is that's the reality
(27:16):
of being the party in power. And it's not like
we're going into it with fifteen or twenty seats of majority.
So on the Senate side, I think it looks a
lot better. But if Democrats were to take the House,
oh my gosh, they you know, the hearings, they'll find something.
They'll be having hearings on signal Gate, you know, and
it's the whole thing. They're just going to go into.
(27:38):
Anything to slow down and mess up Trump is justified
and necessary. So it's it reminds us all that there
is a finite window here to get very important stuff
done to fix the country. Hopefully it doesn't become an
issue because we keep the majority and Trump can keep
doing great stuff. But can't. You can't plan on that.
You gotta plan on getting it done now.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No doubt.
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We've got a bunch of you weighing in who are
in those districts in Florida. Barbara calling in from Saint Augustine, Florida.
You say you just heard about the race again. The
Democrats are smart about organizing. They're trying to take advantage
of Republicans not being aware of what's going on.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Absolutely, they are not aware.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
I just saw my first sign today. I haven't heard
anything on the radio, haven't heard anything on TV. I
heard you guys, and I said, oh, so that's what
that sign is. And so they're not aware here. So
it's from stem to The district is from St. Augustine
to South Daytona.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
And can you can you get on like the Facebook
local Facebook patriots and and you know, do some yard
like can you tell people spread the word because there's
not a ton of people in your district and this
is a race that we got to win.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
There is I actually don't have any social media. I know,
it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Good for you, by the way.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, I haven't had it in probably ten years.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
But yeah, there are neighborhood things around and stuff that
I will definitely talk to my neighbors and have them
get on there and definitely pass the word because this
is too important to miss, too important.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
No, doubt, and and speaking of what we were discussing,
Buck Speaker Mike Johnson has just weighed in and said,
because we're talking about how tight this is going to
be in the House, a least staphonic, great leader, devoted patriot.
Today's selfless decision shows America what those of us have
known already about her. She's deeply devoted the country, fully
committed to the President. Again, he says, I will invite
(32:07):
her to return to the leadership table immediately. No doubt
she would have served with distinction as ambassador to the
United Nations. But they need her and they need you
because this margin in the House is on a pinprick
one way or the other. And frankly, we've got to
get got to get people out to vote come Tuesday,
(32:27):
because that's going to be here soon. And I know,
again a lot of you still kind of kicking back
and you know, celebrating the November election, and they're taking
advantage of the fact that a lot of people are
not engaged. They're out spending the Republicans twenty to one
in this floor to six race, which is pretty crazy
to think about in an effort to try to put
(32:48):
themselves in a position to steal back control of the House.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Very important stuff going on here. Also, we're getting emails
about it isn't just This comes from Eric, one of
our vs on the VIP special inbox here, it isn't
just Florida. The Democrats are targeting to steal a congressional race.
They're targeting two congressional seats here in Wisconsin. The Gems
are funneling millions of out of state money to win
the Supreme Court to redraw the congressional map here in Wisconsin,
(33:15):
to steal two seats from the House. House Minority Leader
Hakim Jeffries has already said the quiet part out loud.
Need to get the word out there more as well.
Keep it the good work Eric in Wisconsin. Well, Eric,
you're doing the good work too, letting people know that
this is very important and that if you're up in Wisconsin,
you're listening as we're on a wisent up there, huge
(33:35):
audience Number one, Thank you so much. You got to
get the word out too to people, because when you're
talking congressional race, grassroots telling.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
People, you know, getting the word out.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
These are races that could be determined by a few thousand,
maybe even a few hundred a few hundred votes depends.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I bet buck in Wisconsin where you're talking about. Trump
won the state of Wisconsin by thirty thousand votes. We
had the Senate race come down to what like ten
thousand ish votes twenty thousand votes there. In other words,
there is a tiny minuscule difference. As we all know,
Ron Johnson won reelection by about twenty thousand votes. There's
(34:14):
very little difference between either party in the state of
Wisconsin right now. In fact, I haven't heard a lot
of people talk about it. Maybe having the Republican National
Convention in the Milwaukee area might have been what helped
to get the Republican ticket In terms of Trump over
the line and air Coved, we know was about as
close as you can possibly get to winning that seat
(34:34):
as well. So they are going to do whatever they
can to be as aggressive as they can to try
to get back control of the House between now and
next November. So you got to keep your head on
a swivel. You've got to be aware of what's going on.
And I think a lot of people who live in
Florida six and Florida one, for instance, are just hearing
from us right now and they're like, oh wow, yeah,
(34:55):
we do have a race to figure out who the
replacement is going to be.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Don't let them steal this.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And I want to get some of our talkbacks here.
I'm trying to let you do it. We have let's see,
we've got chuck back coming from uh, let's do it.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
Hey, guys, great show, Clay. You gotta let go of
the Sydney Sweeney thing. Man, she doesn't even look anything
like snow White. It's a terrible, terrible take. Like there
are multiple actresses that could play her. You could do
Mackenzie Foy or Bailey Madison or Lucy Hale. They all
(35:36):
actually look a little bit like snow White. Just let
go of that terrible take.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Man, I don't know who any people are.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Do you know who any of those actresses that he
just that he just named her. I'm gonna be honest.
I just had a revelation. I just had a revelation
as he was saying this that applies to both of us.
To be fair, I am I'm too old to know
who the best actresses to play snow White because snow
White should be twenty maybe something like that. And I
(36:08):
don't know who the actresses are who are good? Who
are in that age? I said Anna to Armis is
like forty. I've just found out, so you know, I
don't know anything anymore. It would actually be pretty creepy
if you and I knew all of the best twenty
year old actresses who should play snow White. Like that
guy just called in. He's like, you're talking about Sidney.
She's the most famo, one of the most famous actresses
in the world. She would kill it. They would have
made a billion dollars. He's wrong, but he just ran
(36:30):
through three random actresses that neither you nor I know.
I think maybe he's the guy with more explaining the
do than me. I'm looking at Lucy Hale. She does
look just like snow White, but she's thirty five. That's
too old. Sidney Sweeney's the big
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