March 28, 2025 • 36 mins
In hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show, the hosts welcome special guest Kirk Cameron to discuss alternatives to Disney's content, focusing on his new show "Iggy and Mr. Kirk" on the Brave Plus streaming platform. Cameron emphasizes the importance of creating wholesome, family-friendly entertainment that teaches virtues and character, contrasting this with the decline of Disney's brand due to its embrace of woke ideologies. The conversation shifts to the broader cultural landscape, with Cameron expressing hope for a return to the values of the 1980s and 1990s when TV shows aimed to entertain a wide audience without political commentary. He highlights the potential for new entertainment hubs outside of traditional centers like New York and LA, mentioning Nashville as a burgeoning creative community. The hosts then discuss the impact of political polarization on personal relationships, referencing a caller's experience with a politically extreme partner. This leads to a broader discussion on the challenges of dating across political lines and the importance of finding compatible partners. Later in the hour, Steve Hilton joins the show to talk about his new book "Califailure: Reversing the Ruin of America's Worst-Run State” which critiques the governance of California under Democratic leadership. Hilton outlines the state's numerous issues, including high poverty rates, expensive housing, and poor business climate, attributing these problems to far-left policies. He also discusses the potential for political change in California, citing recent electoral successes by Republicans in local races as a sign of growing dissatisfaction with the status quo. The hour concludes with a lighthearted segment where the hosts engage with listener feedback, including humorous comments about driving habits and the challenges of modern technology.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour of playing Third hour of playing
Buck kicks off right now. We've got Kirk Cameron joining us.
He wants to talk to us about an alternative to Disney. Kirk,
welcome on the show. Love your work. As you know,
we are all big fans, going back for a long
time and Brave. Tell everybody about Brave for a second
(00:23):
here as we dive into the Disney disaster unfolding before
our eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, we could talk about that. We're so sad about
Disney not doing well at the box. Not really, It's
like it's like, no surprise, we know why parents and
families are not showing up to see snow White. When
you take a beloved classic like that and you strip
it of what's good and true and beautiful and replace
(00:49):
it with people who are promoting all this woke garbage,
people don't want to be a part of it. So
that's why I'm leaning into the new mister Rogers for
our kids and grand kids in a new show called
Iggy and Mister Kirk. It's a beautiful kids show that
parents can trust without a second thought, and it's going
to not only entertain kids and engage their imagination, but
(01:12):
actually teach them virtue and character.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Kirk, Are you optimistic? Buck?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I had a big conversation about this obviously this
week surrounding the snow White debacle. Are you optimistic that
some of these big companies, even if they don't share
the same ideology or political beliefs, are recognizing that a
lot of the shows that were universal, and you were
in one of them, Growing Pains, the Cosby Show, Family
(01:40):
Ties different different strokes. I mean, those shows were made
for everybody eight to eighty, and I don't remember them
having major political commentary. I feel like you could sit
down and watch them with your kids, your grandkids, and
everybody could enjoy them. Are we put headed more towards
(02:01):
that era the eighties the nineties, when the goal was
to try to entertain as many people as possible with
generally wholesome ideas about innate American goodness. I mean, could
that be coming back?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I hope so, and I hope it gets even better
than the eighties. I hope we actually take it to
the next level. But who knows. I mean I was
listening earlier to that guy that called in, and he's
got a thirty nine year old girlfriend who was hoping
for the assassination of Trump and Elon Musk. What do
you do with something like that? It's like, well, wait
(02:38):
a minute, like, how do you even reason with a
person like that? That is just beyond you know, sane thinking.
I mean, she's a thirty nine year old. I don't
know the woman, but you know, when you're holding the
government accountable to not spend trillions of dollars more than
it makes. And you know, you see John Stewart's react
(03:00):
to what was going on with some of these policies,
you who are like, holy cow, you'd wonder like, is
he just having the light bulb come on? Now? I
don't know. I sure hope that people are waking up
and that they'll they'll listen to common sense and reason
and that we can get back to the values that
lead to healthy families and good relationships and wholesomeness and fun.
(03:24):
But you never know, there's just craziness out there. And
of course, if that's what the radical political folks want
to do, is they want to they want the people
on the other side of the aisle to think they're
the ones who are crazy. So I think at the
end of the day, the beauty of the way the
world works is that kids actually show up in homes
(03:47):
with moms and dads. They're not they're not produced and
owned by the government. And unless we give our kids
over to the government for bad stuff, we have the
opportunity to actually teach them what's good and true and
wholesome and write in our homes. And we've got to
do that by the stories we tell them, by the
things that we say to them at the kitchen table,
(04:08):
and the songs we sing them when they go to
sleep at night. And that's what I'm trying to lean into.
I'm fifty four, I got six kids and a granddaughter,
and I want to be a part of bringing our
culture back to what is wholesome and good.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Kerk.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You moved to Nashville. I believe recently it feels like
there are places maybe outside of New York and LA.
And I'm sure there's some of this in New York
and LA too, but where there's green shoots of sanity,
I would call it. Nashville feels like one of those places.
I think maybe it's partly related to country music, where
(04:45):
certainly the average country music singer and listener is different
than the average pop or rap or R and B
artist typically in terms of their politics and the audience
that they speak to.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I think it means that a city.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Like Nashville, where I live, is more welcoming of diverse
entertainment viewpoints maybe than others. Have you found that to
be true. Do you see other cities and states developing
as entertainment capitals maybe different than the New York cities
and las of years past.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, that's one of the really cool things about technology.
With all of its bad qualities, there's also new opportunities
for people. You can live anywhere now and you can
be a content creator. You don't have to be in
Hollywood under the contractor WITHIG Studio. You can have your
own show. You can be you know. And that's what
people are doing. And in Nashville and the surrounding areas,
(05:39):
there's so many creatives. There's so many people who are
promoting so many good things. I mean, the Daily Wire
folks are.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Right up here.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
If you like The Daily Wire. There's so many country singers,
but also so many faith based operations, movie makers like
the Irwin Brothers, Dave Ramsey's right out here. You've got
Chris Stapleton right down the road you've got. I mean,
they's just it's it's weird. You walk into the grocery
store and uh, you know there's Carrie Underwood. Uh you know,
in in in in in the cereal aisle, and and
(06:09):
you end up having these really cool conversations with a
lot of people, and by and large, people are wanting
to get back to those kinds of Americana, pro family,
pro country, pro god messages. No no, no, nobody's perfect,
No place is perfect.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They they've got a they've got an acute taste for
whiskey out here in Tennessee, and it's good whiskey, and
that can lead to uh, a lot of problems for
for people in the entertainment industry. But that's gonna be
true everywhere. I'm thankful that we're here. I missed the
California sunshine, but I really love the people in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're talking to Kirk Cameron. Well know Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
He's got Brave, a streaming uh streaming channel, creative stuff
for kids. Kirk, and I know that creating our own
stuff is a very important part of all of this.
I know that that's something that has been happening you're
doing that with Brave and the streaming service. I'm also, though,
curious the degree to which the winds have shifted enough
(07:12):
that maybe now conversations with some of the very established
players in the entertainment space. You know, basically, do you
think there were a place now different than we were
even a year ago where maybe you could go to
Disney executive and say, hey, I'm Kirk Cameron. I know
how to do this stuff. Let's make a series that
(07:33):
all kids of all races and religions and you know,
people have different backgrounds, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
We'll just enjoy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I think that. I think that is possible. And
with with the success of shows that the big studios
never thought would do anything, for example, The Chosen, that's
become a cultural phenomenon. I mean that's just that's that's
everywhere now and it's in theater, it's on streaming services.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
They they they broke away and now they're doing their
own thing, and everybody wishes that they could do what
the Chosen did. And this is about the life of
Jesus and his friends. I mean, who would have thunk.
But now they're realizing, uh, maybe we missed something. Here
and so people want to make money. I don't think
at the very heart of the leadership of these big companies,
(08:24):
you know, Disney or or or those that fund them.
I remember seeing a video with Larry think as if
I got the right guy, if I've got the right
guy Black Rock, Yeah, yeah, And there was a video
and they were just talking about Target and you know,
you know, is Target's gonna come around to to to
really listen to their customers and that they don't want
(08:45):
trans bathing suits for their five year olds. And ultimately
he was saying that, you know, Target and these big companies,
they're not operating just off of the profits from the
come from the customers. They're actually operating off of these
giant funds that give them capital. And there's politicians who
are funding the funds, who are winning based off of
(09:09):
political ideology, and they're forcing them to stick with that
ideology or lose their capital. So it gets like layered,
and you know, goes way up into areas that I'm
not all that familiar with, but who knows. I don't
think we should wait around for Disney and other big
places to answer the clue phone. I think we as
(09:32):
moms and dads and as good citizens need to understand
that this isn't China where we have a dictator and
a few of their friends make everything happen. I think
this is the United States of America, where we have
a representative government that should represent our values, and the
way they figure those values out is by watching how
(09:53):
we do things at the grassroots level, and we hold
them accountable. Once we do that, now we can start
making our own our own schools, our own companies, our
own everything, and and and that's that's what I see happening,
and I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Kirk, you're a student of media and entertainment. Obviously you're
having a lot of success with what you're building. What
do you think Walt Disney would think if he looked
back at the Disney Corporation now that he put his
heart and soul into found What do you think his
reaction would be to the modern corporation?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know, I was just watching some reaction videos of
Joe Rogan reacting to something, or John Stewart reacting to something,
and wouldn't that be a great reaction video. Yeah, Walt
Disney reacting to snow White today. I mean, he would
lose his mind because you know, I don't know the
(10:55):
man personally, but certainly the branding for Walt Disney and
Walt Disney World and Disneyland, where I grew up going
it should be the happiest place on Earth's Earth. And
I think Disney today would make him cry because it's
nothing like you was back in the day.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, the man put his heart in solely mortgage
his house to be able to make the nineteen thirty
seven Walt Disney Snow White movie, and he built his
entire career on to your point, Kirk, trying to make
Disney the happiest place on Earth. And I think they've
totally destroyed the brand that he built, and I would
think it would make him sick.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah. Yeah, And if we're not careful, you know, because
we we who have good values have gotten out of
places of leadership in Hollywood, in Washington, d C. You know, politics, education,
(11:58):
we've outsourced that stuff to other people. Well, people with
lesser ideas are really not just destroying a brand like Disney,
but destroying the whole concept of those who gave us
this country. And when do you go back to the
founding Fathers and the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and
the Bill of Rights. These are revolutionary ideas that brought
more freedom, more opportunity, more blessing to the world. And
(12:20):
now we've got kids growing up thinking that the United
States of America is about white supremacy. They have a
completely wrong understanding of things because of the propaganda that's
being foisted on them in these places of leadership and
culture shaping institutions. So if we do love this country,
(12:41):
if we do love the values that it's built on,
if we really think that those values lead to blessing,
and we need more stuff like mister Rogers, and we
need stuff like Iggy and mister Kirk and companies like
Brave Books, then we need to support them. We need
to get behind them, and we need to start making
more of them.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
How do folks go to Brave Just sdream some shows
for their kids that you're working on and I have
created Kirk.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Just download the Brave Plus app on your smart TV.
Just download the app, it's called Brave Plus, and you
can watch the first three episodes of my new kids
TV show Iggy Mister Kirk for free, and then if
you want to see the other twenty episodes. We've got
two full seasons already complete episodes on forgiveness and teaching
(13:26):
your kids about kindness, compassion, overcoming your fears, working together
as a team, faithfulness. Then you can just subscribe and
there's over fifty shows for kids, including old classics like
Bob the Builder, Strawberry Shortcake. Again these are for little
kids four to eight years old, and then new shows
like Iggy and Mister.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Kirk Wonderful Kirk Cameron. Appreciate you, sir, thanks for being
here with us.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Appreciate both of you guys, Thanks so much.
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I know, born and raised here. I don't have a
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(16:03):
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Well, hey, gentlemen, it's great to be on your show.
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(19:05):
from Fox. He's an author as well. New book out
this week, Cali Failure, Reversing the Ruin of America's worst
run State.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Hey Steve, great to have in the program.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Hi guys, great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
What fun?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Can I tell you what a pleasure it is? And
guess who wouldn't have me on his new podcast to
talk about whether or not California is the worst run
state in America. Gavin Newsom, What a shame, but it's
very good to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, we're not surprised that Gavin Newsom wouldn't have you
have you on, given that you recognize the problems not
just of California but specifically of Gavin Newsom's leadership. But
I wonder, Steve, is it just the way it's going
to be there? I mean, one of the problems that
we see is the willingness to suffer for ideological reasons
(19:53):
in some of these democrat enclaves. Definitely in the case
of cities like San Francisco, for example, or even New
York unfortunately, is much higher than a lot of people
would imagine.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Well, you're right, and the ideological is the word. That
is why we're in such a mess, you know, with
the highest rate of poverty, the highest housing costs, the
lowest home ownership, highest cost for gas, electricity, water, everything,
it's a disaster, the worst business climate.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I mean, that's the point.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Really, which is that, of course, across the country we
see the video of the unbelievable homeless encampments and people
wandering like zombies, and the crime and toothpaste locked up
in Walgreens and now the fires, and people see all that,
but actually the underlying problems are even worse. It's a
failure on every front, and people have been putting up
(20:38):
with it, and it's driven by ideology. And that's one
of the things in the book. I go into a
lot what is this ideology. It's not enough to just
call it leftism. There's so many different components to it,
and we've got to understand it because it's going to
spread across the country. That's what's been happening. And if
you look at where the Democrats are today, that seems
to be where they're gravitating the Bernie AOC thing. That's
where the energy is. That's what we've got in California.
(21:01):
Now to your question about change, I think people are
waking up. You saw even before the fires. If you
look at the results last November and the presidential election,
even without obviously competing in California, particularly because you're never
going to get the electoral votes, Donald Trump got more
votes than any Republican for a generation in California. You
(21:21):
saw ten counties flip from blue to red, including big
counties like Fresno County, the fifth biggest city. And now
with the fires, I mean I meet people all the
time in Los Angeles. Yeah, Democrats, independence is a we
can't go on like this. It is just obvious that
we need a change. We need some balance. It's been
this one party rule for so long. We've got to
get some common sense ideas back in there.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Appreciate you coming on, Steve. Why can I talk about
this a lot? It's not just that California has fallen apart.
It's that and I'm curious what your experience was growing
up and what you thought about California. I just came
back from San Francisco. It is a beautiful geographic jewel. Yes,
the likes of which there are not very many of
anywhere in the world. La obviously nearly perfect climate. You
(22:05):
go on up the coast, Seattle, Portland. It's that left
leaning ideas have destroyed some of the most beloved communities
in much of the country. What did you think about
California as a kid growing up far from California and
when did your perception start to change? Because I remember
as a college kid, I had never been to California before.
(22:26):
I remember going out I don't know, probably two thousand
thereabouts and just being blown away by how spectacular it was.
It seems to have really fallen apart only in the
last ten or fifteen years. And I know many Californians
who've lived there feel the same way.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
So I'll tell you a story about that. So I
was totally inspired. I was in the way I put it.
I was in love with California even before we moved it.
We moved in twenty twelve. I got my citizenship four
years ago. So now I'm a proud American but also
proud Californian. I love California. In fact, the story about
this is back in the day when I was working
for David Cameron. This is before he became Prime Minister,
(23:02):
and I was leading our policy development, our political strategy,
and there was a cover story in the Spectator magazine.
We want know the Spectator website here in America. It's
actually a printed magazine, the oldest in the world, actually
the political magazine in the UK. They did a cover
story on the direction that we were working on for
the Conservative Party, and the headline on the story was
(23:25):
California Dreaming, and the first lines go on about Steve Hilton,
David Cameron's policy guru, is inspired by California and the
theme of their policy work is to make the UK
more like California. Like this is that fifteen twenty years
ago and the question is is there any political advisor
to any politician anywhere in the world who would want
(23:46):
to make their country more like California today? And it
shows you just how far we've fallen, how quickly with
this far left ideology.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Dominant in California.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
But actually the point is all the problems of California
ourself inflicted, and we can turn it around. And actually
part two of the book is called Caliphailure, but Part
two of the book is called Califuture, and that is
my plan for how we actually turn things around and
restore California to what it should be, which is the
best of America, not the worst, which is what it
is now.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now you didn't go on Gavin Newsom's podcast, but I
want you to the degree that you can be as
objective as you can in telling us, is this guy
going to be the leader of the Democrat Party in
the next election cycle? Do you see him being able
to swindle enough people in the middle that he's able
to rise through the ranks and go from being governor
(24:41):
to presidential nominee? Because from what I see, he has
had some right wing people on his podcasts, and he's
not abandoning the crazy left positions, but he's at least
putting on a show of I'll have a conversation. I'm
not that crazy exactly.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
And I think you should not underestimate him. I know
him a little bit of the he watched him closely.
And that's the point about him, is that he is
like Kamala Harris before, like Joe Biden, like Karen Back.
You know, these are machine politicians. Okay they and they
will say whatever is politically expedient. But Gavin Newsom says
it better than most, and so don't underestimate him in
(25:18):
a way. That's why I wanted not Partly why I
wanted to write the book is like this is the
record that he's presided over. It's a total failure on
every front. So yes, you can talk. I mean a
good example the difference between talk and action. So he's on,
you know, as Charlie kirkn and agrees how unfair is
deeply unfair? Was his phrase about, you know, biological men
and girls sports. What's he doing about it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Nothing?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
He's the governor now. Next week in the state legislature
there are two bills up for a vote that would
stop this madness.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Is he going to weigh it.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
So far, he's avoided even talking about it, so you've
got to pin him down on the actions. And the
actions that have happened in California have been a complete disaster.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Putting out far seems like maybe the number one thing
that people would expect the government to be capable of
and expect the government to be responsible for. The fire
situation in the Los Angeles area seems to have been
for many people, a recognition that the policy choices they
make Karen Bass, for instance, as mayor have consequences. Do
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you get the sense that that could change political voting
behavior or is it so ideologically committed at this point
that people would have to recognize that they made poor choices,
and lots of people don't want to acknowledge mistake. How
do you get them to change and how did the
fires potentially impact them?
Speaker 7 (26:39):
That's the job of campaigning and to bring that home.
I mean, I can tell you right now, I'm working
with Nicole Shanahan on a recall campaign for Karen Bass,
because every day that she's there is a disaster. And
one of the reasons that we're doing that is to
is to show if we can, if we can pull
it off, that the Democrat machine in California, that kind
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of Democrat industrial complex of the unions that fund the
politicians and the far left activists and the bureaucrats and
all that, that it can be beaten.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And if we can do.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
It there in Los Angeles, for Karen Bass, I think
that's a very encouraging sign that people are ready for change. Look,
if we don't put it off, I still.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Think we should.
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We need to fight, We need to make sure that
people understand. I'll give you a story which really encouraging.
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one serf city USA. So just over four years ago,
the council in Huntington Beach was six' to One. DEMOCRAT
a friend of, Mine Tony, strickland put together a team
of strong. Candidates they in twenty twenty, two they took
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control of the council four to three on a very
strong conservative. Platform they then implemented that they had a
lot of, energy just like you're seeing From President trump right.
Now they cleaned up the, streets they cleaned homeless, encompents
they prosecuted, crime they dealt with the nonsense in the
schools and the. Libraries they actually put in a ballot
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a clean. Sweep they won all the. Seats so in
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can be done if you actually. Fight AND i think
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that's what we need to show Cross. California that's WHY
i really do believe change is possible sooner than many people.
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All right, third hour of playing Third hour of playing
Buck kicks off right now. We've got Kirk Cameron joining us.
He wants to talk to us about an alternative to Disney. Kirk,
welcome on the show. Love your work. As you know,
we are all big fans, going back for a long
time and Brave. Tell everybody about Brave for a second
(00:23):
here as we dive into the Disney disaster unfolding before
our eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, we could talk about that. We're so sad about
Disney not doing well at the box. Not really, It's
like it's like, no surprise, we know why parents and
families are not showing up to see snow White. When
you take a beloved classic like that and you strip
it of what's good and true and beautiful and replace
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it with people who are promoting all this woke garbage,
people don't want to be a part of it. So
that's why I'm leaning into the new mister Rogers for
our kids and grand kids in a new show called
Iggy and Mister Kirk. It's a beautiful kids show that
parents can trust without a second thought, and it's going
to not only entertain kids and engage their imagination, but
(01:12):
actually teach them virtue and character.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Kirk, Are you optimistic? Buck?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I had a big conversation about this obviously this
week surrounding the snow White debacle. Are you optimistic that
some of these big companies, even if they don't share
the same ideology or political beliefs, are recognizing that a
lot of the shows that were universal, and you were
in one of them, Growing Pains, the Cosby Show, Family
(01:40):
Ties different different strokes. I mean, those shows were made
for everybody eight to eighty, and I don't remember them
having major political commentary. I feel like you could sit
down and watch them with your kids, your grandkids, and
everybody could enjoy them. Are we put headed more towards
(02:01):
that era the eighties the nineties, when the goal was
to try to entertain as many people as possible with
generally wholesome ideas about innate American goodness. I mean, could
that be coming back?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I hope so, and I hope it gets even better
than the eighties. I hope we actually take it to
the next level. But who knows. I mean I was
listening earlier to that guy that called in, and he's
got a thirty nine year old girlfriend who was hoping
for the assassination of Trump and Elon Musk. What do
you do with something like that? It's like, well, wait
(02:38):
a minute, like, how do you even reason with a
person like that? That is just beyond you know, sane thinking.
I mean, she's a thirty nine year old. I don't
know the woman, but you know, when you're holding the
government accountable to not spend trillions of dollars more than
it makes. And you know, you see John Stewart's react
(03:00):
to what was going on with some of these policies,
you who are like, holy cow, you'd wonder like, is
he just having the light bulb come on? Now? I
don't know. I sure hope that people are waking up
and that they'll they'll listen to common sense and reason
and that we can get back to the values that
lead to healthy families and good relationships and wholesomeness and fun.
(03:24):
But you never know, there's just craziness out there. And
of course, if that's what the radical political folks want
to do, is they want to they want the people
on the other side of the aisle to think they're
the ones who are crazy. So I think at the
end of the day, the beauty of the way the
world works is that kids actually show up in homes
(03:47):
with moms and dads. They're not they're not produced and
owned by the government. And unless we give our kids
over to the government for bad stuff, we have the
opportunity to actually teach them what's good and true and
wholesome and write in our homes. And we've got to
do that by the stories we tell them, by the
things that we say to them at the kitchen table,
(04:08):
and the songs we sing them when they go to
sleep at night. And that's what I'm trying to lean into.
I'm fifty four, I got six kids and a granddaughter,
and I want to be a part of bringing our
culture back to what is wholesome and good.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Kerk.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You moved to Nashville. I believe recently it feels like
there are places maybe outside of New York and LA.
And I'm sure there's some of this in New York
and LA too, but where there's green shoots of sanity,
I would call it. Nashville feels like one of those places.
I think maybe it's partly related to country music, where
(04:45):
certainly the average country music singer and listener is different
than the average pop or rap or R and B
artist typically in terms of their politics and the audience
that they speak to.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I think it means that a city.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Like Nashville, where I live, is more welcoming of diverse
entertainment viewpoints maybe than others. Have you found that to
be true. Do you see other cities and states developing
as entertainment capitals maybe different than the New York cities
and las of years past.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, that's one of the really cool things about technology.
With all of its bad qualities, there's also new opportunities
for people. You can live anywhere now and you can
be a content creator. You don't have to be in
Hollywood under the contractor WITHIG Studio. You can have your
own show. You can be you know. And that's what
people are doing. And in Nashville and the surrounding areas,
(05:39):
there's so many creatives. There's so many people who are
promoting so many good things. I mean, the Daily Wire
folks are.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Right up here.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
If you like The Daily Wire. There's so many country singers,
but also so many faith based operations, movie makers like
the Irwin Brothers, Dave Ramsey's right out here. You've got
Chris Stapleton right down the road you've got. I mean,
they's just it's it's weird. You walk into the grocery
store and uh, you know there's Carrie Underwood. Uh you know,
in in in in in the cereal aisle, and and
(06:09):
you end up having these really cool conversations with a
lot of people, and by and large, people are wanting
to get back to those kinds of Americana, pro family,
pro country, pro god messages. No no, no, nobody's perfect,
No place is perfect.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They they've got a they've got an acute taste for
whiskey out here in Tennessee, and it's good whiskey, and
that can lead to uh, a lot of problems for
for people in the entertainment industry. But that's gonna be
true everywhere. I'm thankful that we're here. I missed the
California sunshine, but I really love the people in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're talking to Kirk Cameron. Well know Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
He's got Brave, a streaming uh streaming channel, creative stuff
for kids. Kirk, and I know that creating our own
stuff is a very important part of all of this.
I know that that's something that has been happening you're
doing that with Brave and the streaming service. I'm also, though,
curious the degree to which the winds have shifted enough
(07:12):
that maybe now conversations with some of the very established
players in the entertainment space. You know, basically, do you
think there were a place now different than we were
even a year ago where maybe you could go to
Disney executive and say, hey, I'm Kirk Cameron. I know
how to do this stuff. Let's make a series that
(07:33):
all kids of all races and religions and you know,
people have different backgrounds, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
We'll just enjoy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I think that. I think that is possible. And
with with the success of shows that the big studios
never thought would do anything, for example, The Chosen, that's
become a cultural phenomenon. I mean that's just that's that's
everywhere now and it's in theater, it's on streaming services.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
They they they broke away and now they're doing their
own thing, and everybody wishes that they could do what
the Chosen did. And this is about the life of
Jesus and his friends. I mean, who would have thunk.
But now they're realizing, uh, maybe we missed something. Here
and so people want to make money. I don't think
at the very heart of the leadership of these big companies,
(08:24):
you know, Disney or or or those that fund them.
I remember seeing a video with Larry think as if
I got the right guy, if I've got the right
guy Black Rock, Yeah, yeah, And there was a video
and they were just talking about Target and you know,
you know, is Target's gonna come around to to to
really listen to their customers and that they don't want
(08:45):
trans bathing suits for their five year olds. And ultimately
he was saying that, you know, Target and these big companies,
they're not operating just off of the profits from the
come from the customers. They're actually operating off of these
giant funds that give them capital. And there's politicians who
are funding the funds, who are winning based off of
(09:09):
political ideology, and they're forcing them to stick with that
ideology or lose their capital. So it gets like layered,
and you know, goes way up into areas that I'm
not all that familiar with, but who knows. I don't
think we should wait around for Disney and other big
places to answer the clue phone. I think we as
(09:32):
moms and dads and as good citizens need to understand
that this isn't China where we have a dictator and
a few of their friends make everything happen. I think
this is the United States of America, where we have
a representative government that should represent our values, and the
way they figure those values out is by watching how
(09:53):
we do things at the grassroots level, and we hold
them accountable. Once we do that, now we can start
making our own our own schools, our own companies, our
own everything, and and and that's that's what I see happening,
and I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Kirk, you're a student of media and entertainment. Obviously you're
having a lot of success with what you're building. What
do you think Walt Disney would think if he looked
back at the Disney Corporation now that he put his
heart and soul into found What do you think his
reaction would be to the modern corporation?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know, I was just watching some reaction videos of
Joe Rogan reacting to something, or John Stewart reacting to something,
and wouldn't that be a great reaction video. Yeah, Walt
Disney reacting to snow White today. I mean, he would
lose his mind because you know, I don't know the
(10:55):
man personally, but certainly the branding for Walt Disney and
Walt Disney World and Disneyland, where I grew up going
it should be the happiest place on Earth's Earth. And
I think Disney today would make him cry because it's
nothing like you was back in the day.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, the man put his heart in solely mortgage
his house to be able to make the nineteen thirty
seven Walt Disney Snow White movie, and he built his
entire career on to your point, Kirk, trying to make
Disney the happiest place on Earth. And I think they've
totally destroyed the brand that he built, and I would
think it would make him sick.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah. Yeah, And if we're not careful, you know, because
we we who have good values have gotten out of
places of leadership in Hollywood, in Washington, d C. You know, politics, education,
(11:58):
we've outsourced that stuff to other people. Well, people with
lesser ideas are really not just destroying a brand like Disney,
but destroying the whole concept of those who gave us
this country. And when do you go back to the
founding Fathers and the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and
the Bill of Rights. These are revolutionary ideas that brought
more freedom, more opportunity, more blessing to the world. And
(12:20):
now we've got kids growing up thinking that the United
States of America is about white supremacy. They have a
completely wrong understanding of things because of the propaganda that's
being foisted on them in these places of leadership and
culture shaping institutions. So if we do love this country,
(12:41):
if we do love the values that it's built on,
if we really think that those values lead to blessing,
and we need more stuff like mister Rogers, and we
need stuff like Iggy and mister Kirk and companies like
Brave Books, then we need to support them. We need
to get behind them, and we need to start making
more of them.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
How do folks go to Brave Just sdream some shows
for their kids that you're working on and I have
created Kirk.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Just download the Brave Plus app on your smart TV.
Just download the app, it's called Brave Plus, and you
can watch the first three episodes of my new kids
TV show Iggy Mister Kirk for free, and then if
you want to see the other twenty episodes. We've got
two full seasons already complete episodes on forgiveness and teaching
(13:26):
your kids about kindness, compassion, overcoming your fears, working together
as a team, faithfulness. Then you can just subscribe and
there's over fifty shows for kids, including old classics like
Bob the Builder, Strawberry Shortcake. Again these are for little
kids four to eight years old, and then new shows
like Iggy and Mister.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Kirk Wonderful Kirk Cameron. Appreciate you, sir, thanks for being
here with us.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Appreciate both of you guys, Thanks so much.
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good excuse. I don't have a good excuse for not
knowing Eric. By the way, I asked this question of
Kirk Cameron, which, by the way, if you had told me, Hey, yeah,
Kirk Cameron just gonna come on the show every now
and then when I was watching Growing Pains back in
the day, I would have been like, no way. I mean,
I love that show. Eric in Wisconsin says he's he's
got family. His uncle worked directly for the Disney brothers,
(16:03):
Walt and Roy. Walt was the creative. Roy was the
business side of that studio. Eric, what did you want
to fill us in on?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Well, hey, gentlemen, it's great to be on your show.
And yes, my uncle he didn't work directly with Walt.
He worked with Roy, but he knew Won't personally and
he knew Roy. And these were very kind and gentlemen
just like my uncle. And my uncle's been passed away
for a number of years, but and working directly with them,
(16:33):
he's told me what they were like. And there's just
no doubt in anybody's mind who knows what they're talking about,
that these men would be turning over in their graves
right now if they saw what happened to their company.
And it's just it's terrible. It's terrible to watch.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Thank you for the call. I appreciate your feedback, and
I think that's definitely true. Wide variety of topics. People
went away in and Mary in South Carolina. What you
got for us?
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Great to be on your show. Hey, I wanted to
comment on the suv to a short woman driving in
SUVs and the square dancing thing. I am also a
five T two women and driving some version of an
suv or twelve passenger van for the last thirty years.
And the secret is or the tip is that hood
ornament or that middle mound in the hood that lines
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up with the curb or the shoulder line, or just
the side of the road. If you're going through a
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Speaker 1 (17:33):
By the way, do you I'm sorry to cut you off,
But are you like my wife? For people who are
five to two driving big SUVs, this is like a
major issue that nobody talks about. Like, you guys have
legit trouble seeing over the hood?
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Well, oh, absolutely, you can't see over the hood. The
women at church used to chuckle every time they see
me get out of the suburb.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Hey care beer, how tall are you?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Bucks telling and his wife to see by the way
five to three so basically the same size. But has
she ever It's got to be a suburban. It's got
to be an escalade, one of these.
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Big, big suv.
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from Fox. He's an author as well. New book out
this week, Cali Failure, Reversing the Ruin of America's worst
run State.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Hey Steve, great to have in the program.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Hi guys, great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
What fun?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Can I tell you what a pleasure it is? And
guess who wouldn't have me on his new podcast to
talk about whether or not California is the worst run
state in America. Gavin Newsom, What a shame, but it's
very good to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, we're not surprised that Gavin Newsom wouldn't have you
have you on, given that you recognize the problems not
just of California but specifically of Gavin Newsom's leadership. But
I wonder, Steve, is it just the way it's going
to be there? I mean, one of the problems that
we see is the willingness to suffer for ideological reasons
(19:53):
in some of these democrat enclaves. Definitely in the case
of cities like San Francisco, for example, or even New
York unfortunately, is much higher than a lot of people
would imagine.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Well, you're right, and the ideological is the word. That
is why we're in such a mess, you know, with
the highest rate of poverty, the highest housing costs, the
lowest home ownership, highest cost for gas, electricity, water, everything,
it's a disaster, the worst business climate.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I mean, that's the point.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Really, which is that, of course, across the country we
see the video of the unbelievable homeless encampments and people
wandering like zombies, and the crime and toothpaste locked up
in Walgreens and now the fires, and people see all that,
but actually the underlying problems are even worse. It's a
failure on every front, and people have been putting up
(20:38):
with it, and it's driven by ideology. And that's one
of the things in the book. I go into a
lot what is this ideology. It's not enough to just
call it leftism. There's so many different components to it,
and we've got to understand it because it's going to
spread across the country. That's what's been happening. And if
you look at where the Democrats are today, that seems
to be where they're gravitating the Bernie AOC thing. That's
where the energy is. That's what we've got in California.
(21:01):
Now to your question about change, I think people are
waking up. You saw even before the fires. If you
look at the results last November and the presidential election,
even without obviously competing in California, particularly because you're never
going to get the electoral votes, Donald Trump got more
votes than any Republican for a generation in California. You
(21:21):
saw ten counties flip from blue to red, including big
counties like Fresno County, the fifth biggest city. And now
with the fires, I mean I meet people all the
time in Los Angeles. Yeah, Democrats, independence is a we
can't go on like this. It is just obvious that
we need a change. We need some balance. It's been
this one party rule for so long. We've got to
get some common sense ideas back in there.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Appreciate you coming on, Steve. Why can I talk about
this a lot? It's not just that California has fallen apart.
It's that and I'm curious what your experience was growing
up and what you thought about California. I just came
back from San Francisco. It is a beautiful geographic jewel. Yes,
the likes of which there are not very many of
anywhere in the world. La obviously nearly perfect climate. You
(22:05):
go on up the coast, Seattle, Portland. It's that left
leaning ideas have destroyed some of the most beloved communities
in much of the country. What did you think about
California as a kid growing up far from California and
when did your perception start to change? Because I remember
as a college kid, I had never been to California before.
(22:26):
I remember going out I don't know, probably two thousand
thereabouts and just being blown away by how spectacular it was.
It seems to have really fallen apart only in the
last ten or fifteen years. And I know many Californians
who've lived there feel the same way.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
So I'll tell you a story about that. So I
was totally inspired. I was in the way I put it.
I was in love with California even before we moved it.
We moved in twenty twelve. I got my citizenship four
years ago. So now I'm a proud American but also
proud Californian. I love California. In fact, the story about
this is back in the day when I was working
for David Cameron. This is before he became Prime Minister,
(23:02):
and I was leading our policy development, our political strategy,
and there was a cover story in the Spectator magazine.
We want know the Spectator website here in America. It's
actually a printed magazine, the oldest in the world, actually
the political magazine in the UK. They did a cover
story on the direction that we were working on for
the Conservative Party, and the headline on the story was
(23:25):
California Dreaming, and the first lines go on about Steve Hilton,
David Cameron's policy guru, is inspired by California and the
theme of their policy work is to make the UK
more like California. Like this is that fifteen twenty years
ago and the question is is there any political advisor
to any politician anywhere in the world who would want
(23:46):
to make their country more like California today? And it
shows you just how far we've fallen, how quickly with
this far left ideology.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Dominant in California.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
But actually the point is all the problems of California
ourself inflicted, and we can turn it around. And actually
part two of the book is called Caliphailure, but Part
two of the book is called Califuture, and that is
my plan for how we actually turn things around and
restore California to what it should be, which is the
best of America, not the worst, which is what it
is now.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now you didn't go on Gavin Newsom's podcast, but I
want you to the degree that you can be as
objective as you can in telling us, is this guy
going to be the leader of the Democrat Party in
the next election cycle? Do you see him being able
to swindle enough people in the middle that he's able
to rise through the ranks and go from being governor
(24:41):
to presidential nominee? Because from what I see, he has
had some right wing people on his podcasts, and he's
not abandoning the crazy left positions, but he's at least
putting on a show of I'll have a conversation. I'm
not that crazy exactly.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
And I think you should not underestimate him. I know
him a little bit of the he watched him closely.
And that's the point about him, is that he is
like Kamala Harris before, like Joe Biden, like Karen Back.
You know, these are machine politicians. Okay they and they
will say whatever is politically expedient. But Gavin Newsom says
it better than most, and so don't underestimate him in
(25:18):
a way. That's why I wanted not Partly why I
wanted to write the book is like this is the
record that he's presided over. It's a total failure on
every front. So yes, you can talk. I mean a
good example the difference between talk and action. So he's on,
you know, as Charlie kirkn and agrees how unfair is
deeply unfair? Was his phrase about, you know, biological men
and girls sports. What's he doing about it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Nothing?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
He's the governor now. Next week in the state legislature
there are two bills up for a vote that would
stop this madness.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Is he going to weigh it.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
So far, he's avoided even talking about it, so you've
got to pin him down on the actions. And the
actions that have happened in California have been a complete disaster.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Putting out far seems like maybe the number one thing
that people would expect the government to be capable of
and expect the government to be responsible for. The fire
situation in the Los Angeles area seems to have been
for many people, a recognition that the policy choices they
make Karen Bass, for instance, as mayor have consequences. Do
(26:22):
you get the sense that that could change political voting
behavior or is it so ideologically committed at this point
that people would have to recognize that they made poor choices,
and lots of people don't want to acknowledge mistake. How
do you get them to change and how did the
fires potentially impact them?
Speaker 7 (26:39):
That's the job of campaigning and to bring that home.
I mean, I can tell you right now, I'm working
with Nicole Shanahan on a recall campaign for Karen Bass,
because every day that she's there is a disaster. And
one of the reasons that we're doing that is to
is to show if we can, if we can pull
it off, that the Democrat machine in California, that kind
(26:59):
of Democrat industrial complex of the unions that fund the
politicians and the far left activists and the bureaucrats and
all that, that it can be beaten.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And if we can do.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
It there in Los Angeles, for Karen Bass, I think
that's a very encouraging sign that people are ready for change. Look,
if we don't put it off, I still.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Think we should.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
We need to fight, We need to make sure that
people understand. I'll give you a story which really encouraging.
Huntington Beach not the biggest city in California, an iconic
one serf city USA. So just over four years ago,
the council in Huntington Beach was six' to One. DEMOCRAT
a friend of, Mine Tony, strickland put together a team
of strong. Candidates they in twenty twenty, two they took
(27:38):
control of the council four to three on a very
strong conservative. Platform they then implemented that they had a
lot of, energy just like you're seeing From President trump right.
Now they cleaned up the, streets they cleaned homeless, encompents
they prosecuted, crime they dealt with the nonsense in the
schools and the. Libraries they actually put in a ballot
initiative for VOTER id which passed then In. November just,
(27:59):
now in twenty, two twenty, four they put forward seven
candidates as a. Slate they called themselves The Magnificent seven
to show you where they were coming. From they had
a clean. Sweep they won all the. Seats so in
four years that city has gone from six to One
democrat control to seven Zero. Republican so it shows what
can be done if you actually. Fight AND i think
(28:20):
that's what we need to show Cross. California that's WHY
i really do believe change is possible sooner than many people.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Think Steve, hilton everybody go check out the Book Calor,
failure which also goes Into. Califuture so it's not just the,
problems it's also the. Fix And, steve best of luck to.
You please come back and tell us how it's all
going and hang out with us. Again sue, absolutely thanks,
guys se. Soon steve does great, work and it would
(28:46):
be transformative for the. Nation if Saying republicans or just
even saying, independence it could start to get into positions
of power all Over. California AND i do think there's
a frustration Over democrat failures in the, Meantime so it's
an interesting book.
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difference between line dancing and square. Dancing the names alone
are very self. EXPLANATORY a good friend of mine competes
in square, dancing, well, WELL i can assume that one
(35:01):
has lines and one is a, square but we don't
really know what that. Means, horace you know that's neither of.
Us this may not come as a shock to, you
but Neither clay NOR i are the ones you look
to to tear up the dance floor in any style or.
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Genre Is diane's still?
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There she called in earlier because she Was i'm just
catching up on the. Callers diane said that she taught
the square dance and says it's The United States National. Dance,
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had to. Teach i'm sorry that we missed, you But,
diane your your square dancing knowledge has now been imparted
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Unfortunately i'm Sorry kentucky, fans your season ends in about six.
(36:52):
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