April 1, 2025 • 36 mins
In hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck discuss several key topics, starting with the importance of voting in the special elections in Florida's First and Sixth Congressional Districts and the Wisconsin Supreme Court race. They highlight candidates Jimmy Patronis and Randy Fine, emphasizing the impact these elections could have on the political landscape and Trump's administration.
The hosts delve into the possibility of Donald Trump seeking a third term, with Trump hinting at the idea and suggesting he could run as vice president. They analyze Trump's comments, noting his strategic use of such statements to divert media attention and his potential endorsement of JD Vance for the 2028 presidential race.
Clay and Buck also commemorate the 80th anniversary of the Battle of Okinawa, sharing a listener's personal story about his father's experience at Hacksaw Ridge. They reflect on the sacrifices made by the greatest generation and the ongoing presence of evil in the world, drawing parallels to current events.
Additionally, the show covers Bill Maher's dinner with Kid Rock, Dana White, and Donald Trump, highlighting the unique gathering of personalities. The hosts discuss historical literacy and the importance of understanding America's past to better navigate its future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Hour number three.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us right off
the top, echoing what we have told you many times
during the course of today's program.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It is an election day for.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Many of you in Florida and in Wisconsin, and I
know it can sneak up on you and you think, hey,
it was just six months ago. In the first District
of Florida. Go vote, in our opinion for Jimmy Patronis,
who is going to do an amazing job representing the Panhandle.
That is the northernmost district in the state of Florida.
Buy and large, and then Randy Fine. If you are
(00:38):
living in the sixth Congressional District of Florida and that
is the area Daytona, Saint Augustine, both very strong Trump territory.
Two different congressmen there, Matt Gates and Mike Waltz, both
being replaced in these special elections Democrats. You heard Jimmy
Patronis at the top of the midway through the first
(00:59):
hour tell us that he's been outspent five to one buck.
Yesterday you had Randy Fine on and Randy Fine has
been outspent nearly ten to one were the dollar figures
that I saw. So we want you to go send
a message Randy Fine, Jimmy patronis for the Floridians out there.
I'm down in Miami with Buck. Thank you to him
for holding down the fort. Yesterday while I was helping
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Frank Siller and all the guys and gals at Tunnel
to Towers raise money for the fabulous event that they
do T two t dot org, they had a Florida
golf event going on there and also Wisconsin. Wisconsin is
I think it's fair to say Buck the number one
battleground state in America right now, in that every race
(01:43):
comes down to.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Just a few thousand votes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It feels like our buddy Ron Johnson got re elected
in twenty twenty two by about twenty five thousand votes.
For those of you who remember, Trump won Wisconsin by
thirty thousand votes. In this most recent election in November, Unfortunately,
Eric Hovedy lost Wisconsin by a few thousand votes.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
By and large.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I mean this is every single election in Wisconsin is
right there on the margin of going one way or
the other. So if Wisconsin voters who voted for Trump
come out, they will win that Supreme Court race, and
all three of those races will be used in many
ways as a referendum on the first seventy some odd
days of the Trump White House. So that is out
(02:29):
there right now. Several other stories underway. Trump reportedly, as
we were just discussing, going to give his full tariff
decision on April second, four o'clock Eastern. We will figure
out exactly what that is tomorrow. I would imagine more
and more of it will leak out. We've got the
(02:50):
eightieth anniversary by the way of Okinawa. For those of
you out there that are World War two history buffs,
today is the eightieth anniversary I believe of the initial
attack get Okinawa. Am I correcting that?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Sure? I think? I mean, that's quite a stat to
pull out there. They're putting me on the hot team
in New York. Make sure that I didn't screw that up.
I think that is correct that I know. We just
had the eightieth anniversary of D Day last year. I
think the invasion of Okinawa. I believe this is the
eightieth anniversary of that occurring back in nineteen forty five.
(03:24):
Luigi Manngioni a report that we are going to be
seeking through Attorney General Pambondi, the death penalty. And there
are a bunch of other stories out there right on
the beginning of the Battle of Okinawa. And we have
something special for everybody on the battle that is known
as Hacksaw Ridge. We'll play that a little later for everybody,
(03:46):
all right, So I want to get your take on this.
There has been a lot of drama in the past
few days over Trump potentially wanting a third term. Oh boy,
this is this is echoing everywhere, and I want to
hit this for you. I believe we have Trump talking
(04:08):
about he liked to run against Obama. Now, Trump has
an ability to.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Get attention for things that frankly, nobody else can get
attention for. And we all know that he likes to
gig the media a decent amount. Now, this initially started,
I believe, buck with Kristen Welker at NBC's Meet the Press.
Trump gave quotes there. But here is cut three. Trump
says he would welcome a challenge from Obama and he
(04:36):
thinks it would be a good one.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
This is again cut three. If you were allowed, for
some reason to run for a third term, is there a.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Thought that the Democrats could try to run for an
Obama against you.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I love that would be a good one.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I'd like that.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And now people are asking me to run, and his
whole story about running for a third term, I don't know.
I never looked into it. And they do say there's
a way you can do it, but I don't know
about that, but I have not looked into it. I
want to do a fantastic job. We have four years,
just about almost close to four years. It's time is flying,
but it's still close to four years, and we're getting
(05:15):
a lot of credit for having done a great job
in the first almost one hundred days.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, Peter Doucy, great question, as he tied in Barack
Obama versus Donald Trump. Let their guy go for a
third term against our guy, that would be an epic battle.
What do you think is going on here? What is
all the third term talk about? From your perspective?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, Well, for one thing, it reminds me of Gladiator,
which is a fantastic movie, as we all know, we've
discussed here. It's your wife's favorite movie. It's a top
of all times stree five, maybe top three for me.
I mean, so I'm a huge Gladiator fan as well.
Not Gladiator too, that would be for peasants. Hey, Gladia.
Some people are saying movie, some people are saying Gladiator
(05:59):
two peasants. But anyway, Gladiator won amazing. And remember when
they bring out of retirement to face Maximus, they bring
like the greatest gladiator of all time. I think it
was Titus of Gall. Wow, I've seen that movie a lot,
Titus of Gall and he's the guy with the metal,
the sort of gold mask on and the tigers and
all that stuff. Trump is a showman, and for him,
(06:22):
the ultimate political opponent of this era would be Barack Obama. Yes,
that is the only Democrat who won majoritis twice. You know,
even look back at Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton won with
the first time, what forty percent something like that. Now
he was running with Ross Perot, who got nearly twenty
percent of the votes. I mean, so Bill did not
(06:43):
have any kind of a mandate, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
When Clinton never won a majority of never got over
fifty percent of the elections, which a lot of people
don't realize.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Right, that's a stunning statistic when you think about it
in retrospect. So Barack Obama would be the Democrats great champion, right,
that's so Trump just leaning into that I think is
very trump not surprising at all, the third term talk.
I see this entirely as Trump doing what he does,
which is he's going to get all of this focus
(07:12):
from anti Trump media on this. Everybody who likes Trump
and voted for Trump kind of just smiles and looks
at this. They're like, yeah, whatever, you know, calm down,
Like no one really gets worried about it from our side,
or the worried about it just doesn't pays much attention
to it. I think they like the they are amused
by how much it upsets Democrats. But here's what it
does do. Tomorrow, Trump's talking about tariffs. Last hour, we
(07:33):
were discussing tariffs. There are a lot of people that
want to create a narrative that what Trump is doing
with the economy is destabilizing, et cetera, et cetera. This
takes some of the heat off. I view it as
a little bit of a smoke screen or a distraction
technique for the media because they're going to spend a
lot of time talking about something that is completely irrelevant
(07:55):
right now. Other than for the amusement factor and it
takes some of the heat off of the look that
they're starting to see that they've got to do these
cuts and they've got to do these changes in these
tariffs in a way that doesn't just feed narratives to
the opposition. Right, it's the right thing to do, but
you have to handle it a certain way.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think what it really represents is Trump's awareness that
fixing the country is going to take more than four years.
And this is why we have said, you've got to
string together a series of wins. No matter how successful
of a term Trump has, and I believe he's going
to have a very successful term in office. Here, he's
(08:35):
gonna have to leave, I believe in twenty twenty nine.
And certainly the other crazy thing about this is the
process to select Trump's replacement as the Republican nominee for
twenty twenty eight will actually get underway by March of
twenty twenty seven, and that sounds crazy, and honestly, the
(08:56):
shadow primary will begin before then because people will be
out raising money. But basically the day after the midterms
happened next year, the official running start date of the
twenty twenty eight presidential calendar will begin and that's going
to happen in a hurry. And one thing that we
have talked about is how will Trump handle We've never
(09:16):
seen this in his entire political career. How will Trump
handle the possibility of there being a successor to him,
which means that he isn't necessarily the straw that stirs
the drink, that is, the pursuit of who the new
Republican nominee would be matters now. I think his selection,
you nailed this well called by you before anybody else
(09:38):
is saying it to me. Jd Vance actually is a
selection that Trump made because he wants there to be
another generation continuing the work that he started. He could
have picked a guy like Doug Bergham, for instance. Nothing
against Doug Bergham, who's in the cabinet, but Doug Bergham
is an older guy. There are a lot of forty
(10:01):
somethings that Trump has surrounded himself with. Whether it's Pete Hegseth,
whether it's Tulci Gabbard, whether it's jd Vance. These are
guys and gals that are relatively speaking, youthful in the
political context, and I think that was a conscious decision
to try to prolong the movement that Trump is trying
(10:22):
to put in place.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So you see this as pure four D chests from Trump.
Just to be clear, you think that him talking about
a third term, you're going, really, this is like Marcus
Aurelius level philosophical future of the Republic stuff you're going
with here.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I think that Trump will this is my take. I
think that Trump in twenty twenty seven will say at
some point JD Vance is my guy, and I think
he will endorse JD Vance. Interesting because I think he
wants jd Vance to be seen as the heir to Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think that we'll see, We'll see, we can mark
this one down. I feel like Trump is gonna of
view the successor as a as a version of the
apprentice for the leader of the free world. And I'm
not sure that he's going to He certainly hasn't already,
and he's been given opportunities to say it is jd
he's sort of deferred on that a little. Yeah, he's
(11:14):
asked that question direct that directly, So maybe in time.
But I could see Trump wanting to be kingmaker toward
the end here, and he's a guy who likes to
be in the center of the game the second that
you pick your your v I can't believe we're talking
about you know, we're just a couple months in a
Trump's term. We'll get back onto that a second. But
the second that you say who your successor is in
(11:35):
this political environment, the successor is going to be the
person who is driving a lot of the party agenda.
So whereas if you say, hey, guys, I got a
lot of work to do until the very end, I'm
running through the tape and we'll see what happens with
the successor, changes the game a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I do think it's interesting as well, though there are
two pathways to follow. Barack Obama anointed Hillary Clinton his successor,
kicked Joe Biden to the curb.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Barack Obama's right to do so. Correct, He actually made
the right move because he was like dementia, Joe should
not be he doesn't have.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
The ability to do this. And now we unfortunately have
all figured that out. But remember he never endorsed Biden.
Everybody forgets in twenty twenty, Barack Obama set out the race.
So to your point, it maybe that Trump likes the
competition of people trying to get his endorsement.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And doesn't decide to do it. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You know what, he moved a bust into the White
House recently, FDR. I don't know that it's been talked
about or reported on, but Trump took a bust of
FDR and had it moved into the White House. Now
google a Team Meck in New York. Google and see
whether this has been written about. I was told about
(12:54):
this when I was traveling on Air Force one to
go to the NCAA Wrestling Champion ships. Recently, Trump has
been saying recently that his favorite Democrat is FDR. And
if you ask him why his favorite Democrat is FDR,
he says because he served multiple terms. Well four right,
(13:16):
he got elected thirty two to thirty six forty forty
four four Yeah, just four terms, yeah, four terms in office.
They had to have a whole constitutional amendment because of him.
What was it, nineteen fifty one. I think the constitution
came down, which is interesting that we have term limits
for president and not term limits for any other elected Obviously.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Man, how many people do you think if you walked
on the street and you ask them to name any
and they don't have to. I'm not saying memorized, but
to say any amendment beyond the first ten that they
would be able to do so.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't think you're I think most people know the
First Amendment. I think a lot of people know the
Second Amendment. By the time you get into fourth Amendment,
which is unreasonable search and seizure. I think five percent
of Americans could tell you what the Fourth Amendment is.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And by the way, when you get into once you
get into the twenties, you're really I think.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Some people would know the Nineteenth Amendment because they were
in popular culture when they had no right to vote
and they would no ending slavery.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
They would probably when I say they five percent of
people would know, I ish, yeah, I think five percent.
It's funny too, is the most recent constitutional amendment is
probably the most boring. I think it has to do
with nineteen ninety two Congressional salary changes can't take effect.
I can't believe they don't even I don't even know
that a check check me team. Am I right on
(14:32):
this one? This is really I've been doing Trivia Night
with Kerry recently, so I've tried to be on my game.
We are ragning Champ two nights in a row at
our local club here by the way, So just throwing
that out there, but we had I think it's ninety
one or ninety two. It was you can't have a
congressional salary change that takes effect until the next Congress.
I can't believe that that was actually a constant, like
(14:53):
you needed a constitutional amendment for that, But they did one,
I guess because everybody who makes the amendments was affected
by it. So some of them are very almost arcane
or very procedure specific, right anyway, but No three terms
is one of them. That's what got me on this
whole rant in the first place. So I don't know
what what do you actually think Trump is serious? And
(15:15):
you're talking about this like you think Trump is considering
this in some way? Do you think he's really I
don't think he's really considering.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I think he's having fun with it. The problem is
in order to change the law and allow him to
run again would be very difficult. But he did say
to NBC, oh, I could run as the vice president
and then basically serve as the functional president again. I
think Trump is having fun because he knows to a
(15:44):
large extent that his continued viability as a politician drives
his critics bonkers, and the fact that they want to
call him a king and an authoritarian and everything else.
I think ultimately he's going to endorse JdE Vans. That's
what I would predict as we sit here in the
April first of twenty twenty five. But I do think, look,
(16:07):
we've looked at the Trump cabinet over the years. We
don't know how all of this is going to shake out.
But if I were setting odds, I would bet right
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of you hanging out with us. We've got a quick
turn here and then we're going to dive into the
eightieth anniversary of Okinawa. Also, how about Bill Maher having
at dinner with Kid Rock, Dana White, Donald Trump.
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That is a hell of a quad.
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Eighty years ago today, the Greatest Generation began their attack
in Oakan, and I believe we have a talkback from
the sun of a vet of Hacksaw Ridge that wanted
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to share that experience with all of you again. Eighty
years ago today, the war in the Pacific reached Okinawa.
Hacksaw Ridge movie made by Clint Eastwood, phenomenal film. I
am told I have still not watched it. I know
I need to see it, but here is that recollection
(19:32):
from the son of one of those veterans.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Listen, my name is Jim Shiretta, and I'm calling today
on the eightieth anniversary of the invasion of Okinawa, a
battle which would have become the bloodiest of the Pacific Campaign.
Last spring, Clay and Buck discussed their favorite war movies,
and Buck mentioned that Hacksaw Ridge is one of his favorites.
Hacksawridge told the incredible true story of Desmond Doss, a
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conscientious objector who saved seventy five men's lives and earned
the Congressional Medal of Honor. Dominic Sharetta was my father.
He was a World War II combat veteran who like
most men of his generation, did not share his war
stories with his family. We knew that he fought in
several major battles in the Pacific, and we knew that
only a handful of his original company survived the war.
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But it was only many years after his death that
I discovered that he fought on Haxall Ridge. His company
for six days, fought on and around the ridge. They
started the battle with one hundred and fifty men and
they came off the hill with only twenty eight. Mel
Gibson's Hackxeall Ridge is terribly relevant to me knowing that
my father fought on and survived that battle. The larger
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story of the seventy seventh Infanture Division is also incredible.
This division was formed in April nineteen forty two and
was one of the first three all draftee divisions formed
after Pearl Harbor. At the outset of hostilities, our war
planners knew that they would need from somewhere between ninety
and two hundred new infantry and armored divisions to successfully
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prosecute a two front war. The seventy seventh was specifically
set up as a guinea pig outfit. The warplanners filled
its ranks with older men whose average age was thirty three.
They wanted to know how far and how hard they
could push the old guys. For twenty seven months, the
seventy seventh was trained in swamps, deserts, mountains, snow, and jungle.
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Each training cycle was explicitly designed to be as tough
as possible. The enlisted men were trained to a high
level for efficiency in the newly issued M one Grand rifle.
A high percentage qualified as expert. The seventy seventh first
combat was the retaking of Guam. They fought alongside the
third Marine Division. A youthful marine watched the seventy seventh
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come ashore and commented, look at those old bastards go.
This moniker would stick with the seventy seventh for the
duration of the war. On a more positive note. By
the end of this battle, the Marines began referring to
the seventy seventh Infanter Division as the seventy seventh Marines,
a high compliment. Indeed, during four battles, the seventy seventh
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experience two hundred days of combat while earning seven Medals
of honor, three hundred and thirty five Silver Stars, sixteen
Distinguished Unit Citations, and four four hundred and thirty three
Bronze Stars.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Incredible story here, by the way, I said, Clint Eastwood,
Mel Gibson obviously made that movie.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I still have not watched it. You told me it's fabulous.
A couple things Clint Eastwood did, Flags of our Fathers
and letters from Uojima, letters from me Rejima, I think
on that battle, obviously not. Okanawa is a very well
made movie for what it is comes from the Japanese perspective.
Still very very well done. You absolutely, I mean, you're
here for a couple of days. I might. I'm gonna
(22:51):
tell you guys something right now, we're actually doing Good
Ranchers Steak Night tonight here at the Sexton Household. I'm
not even kidding. We've got them thought out and ready
to go. So we're doing Good Ranchers Night tonight, myself, Clay,
my brother's Carrie, and we also might have to fit
in a movie night here at some point. Maybe we
do like half of Hacksaw Ridge tonight and half tomorrow,
(23:13):
because Clay, it is so it's so well done. I'll
tell you in the beginning, I didn't really like it
that much, meaning that the opening sort of first hour
of the movie, I'm like this guy, he's all like, well,
I don't really want to do any bad things. And
then toward the end you're like, this guy is incredible.
And then you have this moment where you say, but
come on, that couldn't really happen, and you read the
(23:34):
Medal of Honor citation. This guy really did this stuff
that they talk about, I mean incredible, going into a
battlefield full of grievously wounded Americans crawling with Japanese will
execute absolutely anybody that they capture or see on that battlefield.
And to say I think he's he's saved dozens, I
want to say it was close to seventy people. I
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think it's over seventy, over seventy people that he pulled
off that battlefield solo, unarmed and clearly worthy of the
Metal of Honor. And I don't think Mel Gibson gets
enough credit for what a fantastic movie that really was.
I think it did get nominated for a couple of Oscars,
not that the oscars really mean the oscars have stopped
meaning something in recent years, but it was such a
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fantastic movie that it broke through and even got some
critical acclaims. So dude, you absolutely need to see that. Yeah,
I've got to watch it. I'm gonna text. If I
text Laura, it'll actually get done. Yeah, Lara, Laura that
you guys need to do this. Laura will get it.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We're finally through the most of the sports calendar, so
this is typically when I would pivot once the college
basketball season ends. By the way, I was texting with
him during the show. Auburn men's basketball coach Bruce Pearl
awesome guy. He used his Sweet sixteen win as an
opportunity to plea for the release of the hostages still
(24:50):
being held by Hamas, and he wants to come on
and talk with us this week in addition to everything
else that is going on, because he sees this success
of the auburns men's basketball team as an opportunity to
advocate for good against evil in the world. He's a
fan of the show, he's a fan of OutKick. I
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think we're gonna get him set up to come on.
But I do think as we celebrate the eightieth anniversary
of the great greatest generation in the work that they
did to preserve freedom around the world. It's worth mentioning
that we still have. I believe it's over fifty hostages
being held in Gaza, and October seventh was the deadliest
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day for Jewish people since the Holocaust. So we like
to think that many of the battles that those guys
fought and won for truth and freedom and the American way,
that that era has passed. There's still an awful lot
of evil out there, and it's important to remember that.
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I think, even as we celebrate the credible, innate goodness
of the average American soldier during World War Two, there's
still a tremendous amount of evil in the world. And
you know, I hate to have to even mention it,
but eighty years after we liberated those concentration camps, I mean,
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there's still a lot of people being murdered because they're Jewish,
and we have to keep that in mind and I
think call it out where we see it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Absolutely, So we are so glad we were able to
share with you that story from our listener It's so
we're so gratified and thankful that we have the listenership
that we do that brings such incredible both knowledge and
life experience to the show. So having you all weigh
in is one of the great joys of the show,
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Let's hear what Jay has to say. Oh, well, it
was in my inbox of one that we had, so
we will get back to that here momentarily. We also
have some VIP emails that we can get to. Here
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we go. VIP listener, Don Trump cannot run for VP.
Refer to the Twelfth Amendment. Qualifications for VP are identical
to those for president. Now interesting, he's essentially saying, even, look,
I don't think Trump's running for a third term. Okay,
I don't think that's the thing that we need to
really be focused on our talking about. However, just in
the theoretical the backdoor third term option, Clay that most
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people discuss without getting into exigencies, emergencies, whatever, is he
would be a vice president. I guess under vEDS VP
listener Don VIP listener Don is saying he cannot be
VP because to BVP you have to have the same
qualifications as president. Do you buy this? First of all,
the twelfth Amendment is a mess.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We talked about this in the context of you're not
technically able to both be from the same state.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Many people wanted Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And DeSantis to be a ticket. Obviously that didn't end
up happening. The amendments mean whatever five justices of the
Supreme Court say so.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
The reason why I.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Brought that up is Trump floated it as a possibility
in his interview with Kristen Welker of NBC News that
he could be the vice president for jd Vance, who
was elected president.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Again.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I think Trump is having some fun with this, but
I do think it's worth having this float around out there.
Here is what I think Trump really likes about this.
At some point, flag this April first, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
No fool's gold here for April fools.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think by the beginning of twenty twenty seven, you
are going to see an incredible pivot from the Democrat Party.
They are going to go buck from Trump is Hitler
to Trump is such a supremely uniquely talented politician that
his victories actually speak to his incredible acclaim and achievement,
(29:30):
not to the Republican Party. They are going to pivot
and claim that he's Reagan. Just get ready for it.
Some of you think this is crazy. That's how they're
going to justify their loss in twenty four and their
loss in sixteen.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And they may even be willing to bring Barack Obama
into the conversation and say, we know what this is like,
we as Democrats because Barack Obama's two terms never translated
into victories for the Destocrats in the House. And now
after the first two night was a blowout, you know
they got to a super majority. Yes, but from there
(30:04):
on it was nothing but downward trajectory for the Democrat
Party all the way leading to Trump in twenty sixteen.
And it's kind of ironic that Obama's VP had to
come back of his own accord after being shut down
by Obama and Hillary in twenty sixteen to run in
twenty twenty. Right, so Obama, they might say that Trump
(30:26):
is kind of like our uh or rather, Trump is
your version of Obama Republicans. He was a unique political talent.
That does not speak to whether you actually connect more
with the American people as a party. It was all him,
by the way, I think you're right on this. I
think they will make that shift because it'll.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
A as soon as we get to twenty twenty seven
pre prepared for it. Also, you know what I mean,
heard other people start to ask questions about Even people
who previously said it was crazy are like, you know
that eighty one million Joe Biden votes. That's getting harder
and harder to explain how that could have happened Now
that we've had Trump on the ballot three different it's.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Still the all time record, right, oh yeah, all time record.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Joe Biden in twenty twenty got four million more votes
than Trump did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
The only way you could explain this that does not
involve rigging slash cheating, and I think it involves certainly rigging.
We can talk about the cheating.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I have.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
My concerns is that people were there was such a
psychological pandemic along with the COVID pandemic, that people went
nuts and just came out in crazy numbers to vote
for the Communist which is which was a huge an
unfortunate era, as we all know, because he didn't win
a second time because he was terrible and had dementia.
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Speaker 2 (33:19):
All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. We're closing
up shop today. We'll be with you again tomorrow here,
same time, same place. Clay and I hanging out in
the South, the South, Florida Freedom Bunker. Here Clay is
enjoying the lovely weather, the prevalence of fitness studios in
the neighborhood and yeah, you got me going to your
(33:40):
gym tomorrow. Clay Plays coming to a Miami Beach gym tomorrow.
He's going to walk around. He will never have seen
so many people who are juicing or on a stack
in his life. I would assume, I don't think that's
as much of a thing in Nashville as it is here.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
But also a lot of people record their workouts, right, like,
this is a very common thing, like to post you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Might see some of that. Uh, there are other gyms
where that is incredibly common. There are other gyms that
where that happens. Because people, particularly of the of the
young lady variety, monetize videos of their workouts. It's crazy,
and some of them make a lot of no, I
don't really mean their workout like they actually just put
up video of themselves and they become big influencers and
(34:23):
everything else. So Clay has never been to a South
Beach jim before, and uh, we're gonna give him his
first experience. Looking forward to hearing the the review of
how it goes And with that in mind, Jimmy and
Aguwam Massachusetts wants to talk about Sidney Sweeney. What's going on,
Jimmy and mass By Clay and back up?
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yeah, I just wanted to congratulate you guys with a
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Speaker 2 (34:51):
Thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
I heard I heard you talking about Sidney Sweeney and
I was watching some coverage from Jimmy fallon over and
twenty nineteen in England. They were representing US opening up
for the Stones new album and Sydney Sweeney place in
that video. She's on the car. It's the song called Angry.
(35:13):
And so you guys mentioned her for snow White, But
after seeing that video, I don't know if you'd say
snow white again.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Can I just throw out there, Jimmy Clay mentioned her
for snow White. This was a Clay recommendation that has
gotten a lot of attention online.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I wanted Disney to make a billion dollars by putting
Sidney Sweeney in a snow white outfit. Now, my wife disagreed,
Jimmy disagrees. I think it's genius. You know, all genius
is not immediately supported by the entire American populace and
Jimmy's saying, no chatter for you, Jimmy, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Jimmy disagrees. I love Tuesday. By the way, what did
I say that?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Like a week ago, Jimmy still doing his research, he
saw a video, didn't like it. Wanted to make sure
that we knew that he didn't think she was snow
white material.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Let's do a talkback FF New York City seven to
ten WR listener fran hit It.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Thank you both so much for playing that recollection of Okinawa.
That was really amazing, and this is exactly the kind
of history that our students and kids in this country
should be learning. And it just breaks my heart that
we lost so many people.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Thank you. It was really powerful. That's why we wanted
to play it for you.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, and also because I do believe that historical illiteracy
is one of the biggest challenges that we face in
this country. If you don't know your history, then you
are likely to believe that every single moment is the
most catastrophically dangerous that this country has ever faced. And look,
we won World War Two, we had an election during
(36:40):
the Civil War. You and I are both history nerds.
I think it's important that people have a better grasp
on all the things we've overcome and all the victories
we've posted
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Hour number three.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us right off
the top, echoing what we have told you many times
during the course of today's program.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It is an election day for.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Many of you in Florida and in Wisconsin, and I
know it can sneak up on you and you think, hey,
it was just six months ago. In the first District
of Florida. Go vote, in our opinion for Jimmy Patronis,
who is going to do an amazing job representing the Panhandle.
That is the northernmost district in the state of Florida.
Buy and large, and then Randy Fine. If you are
(00:38):
living in the sixth Congressional District of Florida and that
is the area Daytona, Saint Augustine, both very strong Trump territory.
Two different congressmen there, Matt Gates and Mike Waltz, both
being replaced in these special elections Democrats. You heard Jimmy
Patronis at the top of the midway through the first
(00:59):
hour tell us that he's been outspent five to one buck.
Yesterday you had Randy Fine on and Randy Fine has
been outspent nearly ten to one were the dollar figures
that I saw. So we want you to go send
a message Randy Fine, Jimmy patronis for the Floridians out there.
I'm down in Miami with Buck. Thank you to him
for holding down the fort. Yesterday while I was helping
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golf event going on there and also Wisconsin. Wisconsin is
I think it's fair to say Buck the number one
battleground state in America right now, in that every race
(01:43):
comes down to.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Just a few thousand votes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It feels like our buddy Ron Johnson got re elected
in twenty twenty two by about twenty five thousand votes.
For those of you who remember, Trump won Wisconsin by
thirty thousand votes. In this most recent election in November, Unfortunately,
Eric Hovedy lost Wisconsin by a few thousand votes.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
By and large.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I mean this is every single election in Wisconsin is
right there on the margin of going one way or
the other. So if Wisconsin voters who voted for Trump
come out, they will win that Supreme Court race, and
all three of those races will be used in many
ways as a referendum on the first seventy some odd
days of the Trump White House. So that is out
(02:29):
there right now. Several other stories underway. Trump reportedly, as
we were just discussing, going to give his full tariff
decision on April second, four o'clock Eastern. We will figure
out exactly what that is tomorrow. I would imagine more
and more of it will leak out. We've got the
(02:50):
eightieth anniversary by the way of Okinawa. For those of
you out there that are World War two history buffs,
today is the eightieth anniversary I believe of the initial
attack get Okinawa. Am I correcting that?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Sure? I think? I mean, that's quite a stat to
pull out there. They're putting me on the hot team
in New York. Make sure that I didn't screw that up.
I think that is correct that I know. We just
had the eightieth anniversary of D Day last year. I
think the invasion of Okinawa. I believe this is the
eightieth anniversary of that occurring back in nineteen forty five.
(03:24):
Luigi Manngioni a report that we are going to be
seeking through Attorney General Pambondi, the death penalty. And there
are a bunch of other stories out there right on
the beginning of the Battle of Okinawa. And we have
something special for everybody on the battle that is known
as Hacksaw Ridge. We'll play that a little later for everybody,
(03:46):
all right, So I want to get your take on this.
There has been a lot of drama in the past
few days over Trump potentially wanting a third term. Oh boy,
this is this is echoing everywhere, and I want to
hit this for you. I believe we have Trump talking
(04:08):
about he liked to run against Obama. Now, Trump has
an ability to.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Get attention for things that frankly, nobody else can get
attention for. And we all know that he likes to
gig the media a decent amount. Now, this initially started,
I believe, buck with Kristen Welker at NBC's Meet the Press.
Trump gave quotes there. But here is cut three. Trump
says he would welcome a challenge from Obama and he
(04:36):
thinks it would be a good one.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
This is again cut three. If you were allowed, for
some reason to run for a third term, is there a.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Thought that the Democrats could try to run for an
Obama against you.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I love that would be a good one.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I'd like that.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And now people are asking me to run, and his
whole story about running for a third term, I don't know.
I never looked into it. And they do say there's
a way you can do it, but I don't know
about that, but I have not looked into it. I
want to do a fantastic job. We have four years,
just about almost close to four years. It's time is flying,
but it's still close to four years, and we're getting
(05:15):
a lot of credit for having done a great job
in the first almost one hundred days.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, Peter Doucy, great question, as he tied in Barack
Obama versus Donald Trump. Let their guy go for a
third term against our guy, that would be an epic battle.
What do you think is going on here? What is
all the third term talk about? From your perspective?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, Well, for one thing, it reminds me of Gladiator,
which is a fantastic movie, as we all know, we've
discussed here. It's your wife's favorite movie. It's a top
of all times stree five, maybe top three for me.
I mean, so I'm a huge Gladiator fan as well.
Not Gladiator too, that would be for peasants. Hey, Gladia.
Some people are saying movie, some people are saying Gladiator
(05:59):
two peasants. But anyway, Gladiator won amazing. And remember when
they bring out of retirement to face Maximus, they bring
like the greatest gladiator of all time. I think it
was Titus of Gall. Wow, I've seen that movie a lot,
Titus of Gall and he's the guy with the metal,
the sort of gold mask on and the tigers and
all that stuff. Trump is a showman, and for him,
(06:22):
the ultimate political opponent of this era would be Barack Obama. Yes,
that is the only Democrat who won majoritis twice. You know,
even look back at Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton won with
the first time, what forty percent something like that. Now
he was running with Ross Perot, who got nearly twenty
percent of the votes. I mean, so Bill did not
(06:43):
have any kind of a mandate, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
When Clinton never won a majority of never got over
fifty percent of the elections, which a lot of people
don't realize.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Right, that's a stunning statistic when you think about it
in retrospect. So Barack Obama would be the Democrats great champion, right,
that's so Trump just leaning into that I think is
very trump not surprising at all, the third term talk.
I see this entirely as Trump doing what he does,
which is he's going to get all of this focus
(07:12):
from anti Trump media on this. Everybody who likes Trump
and voted for Trump kind of just smiles and looks
at this. They're like, yeah, whatever, you know, calm down,
Like no one really gets worried about it from our side,
or the worried about it just doesn't pays much attention
to it. I think they like the they are amused
by how much it upsets Democrats. But here's what it
does do. Tomorrow, Trump's talking about tariffs. Last hour, we
(07:33):
were discussing tariffs. There are a lot of people that
want to create a narrative that what Trump is doing
with the economy is destabilizing, et cetera, et cetera. This
takes some of the heat off. I view it as
a little bit of a smoke screen or a distraction
technique for the media because they're going to spend a
lot of time talking about something that is completely irrelevant
(07:55):
right now. Other than for the amusement factor and it
takes some of the heat off of the look that
they're starting to see that they've got to do these
cuts and they've got to do these changes in these
tariffs in a way that doesn't just feed narratives to
the opposition. Right, it's the right thing to do, but
you have to handle it a certain way.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think what it really represents is Trump's awareness that
fixing the country is going to take more than four years.
And this is why we have said, you've got to
string together a series of wins. No matter how successful
of a term Trump has, and I believe he's going
to have a very successful term in office. Here, he's
(08:35):
gonna have to leave, I believe in twenty twenty nine.
And certainly the other crazy thing about this is the
process to select Trump's replacement as the Republican nominee for
twenty twenty eight will actually get underway by March of
twenty twenty seven, and that sounds crazy, and honestly, the
(08:56):
shadow primary will begin before then because people will be
out raising money. But basically the day after the midterms
happened next year, the official running start date of the
twenty twenty eight presidential calendar will begin and that's going
to happen in a hurry. And one thing that we
have talked about is how will Trump handle We've never
(09:16):
seen this in his entire political career. How will Trump
handle the possibility of there being a successor to him,
which means that he isn't necessarily the straw that stirs
the drink, that is, the pursuit of who the new
Republican nominee would be matters now. I think his selection,
you nailed this well called by you before anybody else
(09:38):
is saying it to me. Jd Vance actually is a
selection that Trump made because he wants there to be
another generation continuing the work that he started. He could
have picked a guy like Doug Bergham, for instance. Nothing
against Doug Bergham, who's in the cabinet, but Doug Bergham
is an older guy. There are a lot of forty
(10:01):
somethings that Trump has surrounded himself with. Whether it's Pete Hegseth,
whether it's Tulci Gabbard, whether it's jd Vance. These are
guys and gals that are relatively speaking, youthful in the
political context, and I think that was a conscious decision
to try to prolong the movement that Trump is trying
(10:22):
to put in place.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So you see this as pure four D chests from Trump.
Just to be clear, you think that him talking about
a third term, you're going, really, this is like Marcus
Aurelius level philosophical future of the Republic stuff you're going
with here.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I think that Trump will this is my take. I
think that Trump in twenty twenty seven will say at
some point JD Vance is my guy, and I think
he will endorse JD Vance. Interesting because I think he
wants jd Vance to be seen as the heir to Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think that we'll see, We'll see, we can mark
this one down. I feel like Trump is gonna of
view the successor as a as a version of the
apprentice for the leader of the free world. And I'm
not sure that he's going to He certainly hasn't already,
and he's been given opportunities to say it is jd
he's sort of deferred on that a little. Yeah, he's
(11:14):
asked that question direct that directly, So maybe in time.
But I could see Trump wanting to be kingmaker toward
the end here, and he's a guy who likes to
be in the center of the game the second that
you pick your your v I can't believe we're talking
about you know, we're just a couple months in a
Trump's term. We'll get back onto that a second. But
the second that you say who your successor is in
(11:35):
this political environment, the successor is going to be the
person who is driving a lot of the party agenda.
So whereas if you say, hey, guys, I got a
lot of work to do until the very end, I'm
running through the tape and we'll see what happens with
the successor, changes the game a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I do think it's interesting as well, though there are
two pathways to follow. Barack Obama anointed Hillary Clinton his successor,
kicked Joe Biden to the curb.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Barack Obama's right to do so. Correct, He actually made
the right move because he was like dementia, Joe should
not be he doesn't have.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
The ability to do this. And now we unfortunately have
all figured that out. But remember he never endorsed Biden.
Everybody forgets in twenty twenty, Barack Obama set out the race.
So to your point, it maybe that Trump likes the
competition of people trying to get his endorsement.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And doesn't decide to do it. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You know what, he moved a bust into the White
House recently, FDR. I don't know that it's been talked
about or reported on, but Trump took a bust of
FDR and had it moved into the White House. Now
google a Team Meck in New York. Google and see
whether this has been written about. I was told about
(12:54):
this when I was traveling on Air Force one to
go to the NCAA Wrestling Champion ships. Recently, Trump has
been saying recently that his favorite Democrat is FDR. And
if you ask him why his favorite Democrat is FDR,
he says because he served multiple terms. Well four right,
(13:16):
he got elected thirty two to thirty six forty forty
four four Yeah, just four terms, yeah, four terms in office.
They had to have a whole constitutional amendment because of him.
What was it, nineteen fifty one. I think the constitution
came down, which is interesting that we have term limits
for president and not term limits for any other elected Obviously.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Man, how many people do you think if you walked
on the street and you ask them to name any
and they don't have to. I'm not saying memorized, but
to say any amendment beyond the first ten that they
would be able to do so.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't think you're I think most people know the
First Amendment. I think a lot of people know the
Second Amendment. By the time you get into fourth Amendment,
which is unreasonable search and seizure. I think five percent
of Americans could tell you what the Fourth Amendment is.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And by the way, when you get into once you
get into the twenties, you're really I think.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Some people would know the Nineteenth Amendment because they were
in popular culture when they had no right to vote
and they would no ending slavery.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
They would probably when I say they five percent of
people would know, I ish, yeah, I think five percent.
It's funny too, is the most recent constitutional amendment is
probably the most boring. I think it has to do
with nineteen ninety two Congressional salary changes can't take effect.
I can't believe they don't even I don't even know
that a check check me team. Am I right on
(14:32):
this one? This is really I've been doing Trivia Night
with Kerry recently, so I've tried to be on my game.
We are ragning Champ two nights in a row at
our local club here by the way, So just throwing
that out there, but we had I think it's ninety
one or ninety two. It was you can't have a
congressional salary change that takes effect until the next Congress.
I can't believe that that was actually a constant, like
(14:53):
you needed a constitutional amendment for that, But they did one,
I guess because everybody who makes the amendments was affected
by it. So some of them are very almost arcane
or very procedure specific, right anyway, but No three terms
is one of them. That's what got me on this
whole rant in the first place. So I don't know
what what do you actually think Trump is serious? And
(15:15):
you're talking about this like you think Trump is considering
this in some way? Do you think he's really I
don't think he's really considering.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I think he's having fun with it. The problem is
in order to change the law and allow him to
run again would be very difficult. But he did say
to NBC, oh, I could run as the vice president
and then basically serve as the functional president again. I
think Trump is having fun because he knows to a
(15:44):
large extent that his continued viability as a politician drives
his critics bonkers, and the fact that they want to
call him a king and an authoritarian and everything else.
I think ultimately he's going to endorse JdE Vans. That's
what I would predict as we sit here in the
April first of twenty twenty five. But I do think, look,
(16:07):
we've looked at the Trump cabinet over the years. We
don't know how all of this is going to shake out.
But if I were setting odds, I would bet right
now that he's going to endorse jd Vance In twenty
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of you hanging out with us. We've got a quick
turn here and then we're going to dive into the
eightieth anniversary of Okinawa. Also, how about Bill Maher having
at dinner with Kid Rock, Dana White, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That is a hell of a quad.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
We'll talk a little bit about that and more, but
we want to tell you right now, I was out
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Eighty years ago today, the Greatest Generation began their attack
in Oakan, and I believe we have a talkback from
the sun of a vet of Hacksaw Ridge that wanted
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to share that experience with all of you again. Eighty
years ago today, the war in the Pacific reached Okinawa.
Hacksaw Ridge movie made by Clint Eastwood, phenomenal film. I
am told I have still not watched it. I know
I need to see it, but here is that recollection
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from the son of one of those veterans.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Listen, my name is Jim Shiretta, and I'm calling today
on the eightieth anniversary of the invasion of Okinawa, a
battle which would have become the bloodiest of the Pacific Campaign.
Last spring, Clay and Buck discussed their favorite war movies,
and Buck mentioned that Hacksaw Ridge is one of his favorites.
Hacksawridge told the incredible true story of Desmond Doss, a
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conscientious objector who saved seventy five men's lives and earned
the Congressional Medal of Honor. Dominic Sharetta was my father.
He was a World War II combat veteran who like
most men of his generation, did not share his war
stories with his family. We knew that he fought in
several major battles in the Pacific, and we knew that
only a handful of his original company survived the war.
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But it was only many years after his death that
I discovered that he fought on Haxall Ridge. His company
for six days, fought on and around the ridge. They
started the battle with one hundred and fifty men and
they came off the hill with only twenty eight. Mel
Gibson's Hackxeall Ridge is terribly relevant to me knowing that
my father fought on and survived that battle. The larger
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story of the seventy seventh Infanture Division is also incredible.
This division was formed in April nineteen forty two and
was one of the first three all draftee divisions formed
after Pearl Harbor. At the outset of hostilities, our war
planners knew that they would need from somewhere between ninety
and two hundred new infantry and armored divisions to successfully
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prosecute a two front war. The seventy seventh was specifically
set up as a guinea pig outfit. The warplanners filled
its ranks with older men whose average age was thirty three.
They wanted to know how far and how hard they
could push the old guys. For twenty seven months, the
seventy seventh was trained in swamps, deserts, mountains, snow, and jungle.
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Each training cycle was explicitly designed to be as tough
as possible. The enlisted men were trained to a high
level for efficiency in the newly issued M one Grand rifle.
A high percentage qualified as expert. The seventy seventh first
combat was the retaking of Guam. They fought alongside the
third Marine Division. A youthful marine watched the seventy seventh
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come ashore and commented, look at those old bastards go.
This moniker would stick with the seventy seventh for the
duration of the war. On a more positive note. By
the end of this battle, the Marines began referring to
the seventy seventh Infanter Division as the seventy seventh Marines,
a high compliment. Indeed, during four battles, the seventy seventh
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experience two hundred days of combat while earning seven Medals
of honor, three hundred and thirty five Silver Stars, sixteen
Distinguished Unit Citations, and four four hundred and thirty three
Bronze Stars.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Incredible story here, by the way, I said, Clint Eastwood,
Mel Gibson obviously made that movie.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I still have not watched it. You told me it's fabulous.
A couple things Clint Eastwood did, Flags of our Fathers
and letters from Uojima, letters from me Rejima, I think
on that battle, obviously not. Okanawa is a very well
made movie for what it is comes from the Japanese perspective.
Still very very well done. You absolutely, I mean, you're
here for a couple of days. I might. I'm gonna
(22:51):
tell you guys something right now, we're actually doing Good
Ranchers Steak Night tonight here at the Sexton Household. I'm
not even kidding. We've got them thought out and ready
to go. So we're doing Good Ranchers Night tonight, myself, Clay,
my brother's Carrie, and we also might have to fit
in a movie night here at some point. Maybe we
do like half of Hacksaw Ridge tonight and half tomorrow,
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because Clay, it is so it's so well done. I'll
tell you in the beginning, I didn't really like it
that much, meaning that the opening sort of first hour
of the movie, I'm like this guy, he's all like, well,
I don't really want to do any bad things. And
then toward the end you're like, this guy is incredible.
And then you have this moment where you say, but
come on, that couldn't really happen, and you read the
(23:34):
Medal of Honor citation. This guy really did this stuff
that they talk about, I mean incredible, going into a
battlefield full of grievously wounded Americans crawling with Japanese will
execute absolutely anybody that they capture or see on that battlefield.
And to say I think he's he's saved dozens, I
want to say it was close to seventy people. I
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think it's over seventy, over seventy people that he pulled
off that battlefield solo, unarmed and clearly worthy of the
Metal of Honor. And I don't think Mel Gibson gets
enough credit for what a fantastic movie that really was.
I think it did get nominated for a couple of Oscars,
not that the oscars really mean the oscars have stopped
meaning something in recent years, but it was such a
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fantastic movie that it broke through and even got some
critical acclaims. So dude, you absolutely need to see that. Yeah,
I've got to watch it. I'm gonna text. If I
text Laura, it'll actually get done. Yeah, Lara, Laura that
you guys need to do this. Laura will get it.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We're finally through the most of the sports calendar, so
this is typically when I would pivot once the college
basketball season ends. By the way, I was texting with
him during the show. Auburn men's basketball coach Bruce Pearl
awesome guy. He used his Sweet sixteen win as an
opportunity to plea for the release of the hostages still
(24:50):
being held by Hamas, and he wants to come on
and talk with us this week in addition to everything
else that is going on, because he sees this success
of the auburns men's basketball team as an opportunity to
advocate for good against evil in the world. He's a
fan of the show, he's a fan of OutKick. I
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think we're gonna get him set up to come on.
But I do think as we celebrate the eightieth anniversary
of the great greatest generation in the work that they
did to preserve freedom around the world. It's worth mentioning
that we still have. I believe it's over fifty hostages
being held in Gaza, and October seventh was the deadliest
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day for Jewish people since the Holocaust. So we like
to think that many of the battles that those guys
fought and won for truth and freedom and the American way,
that that era has passed. There's still an awful lot
of evil out there, and it's important to remember that.
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I think, even as we celebrate the credible, innate goodness
of the average American soldier during World War Two, there's
still a tremendous amount of evil in the world. And
you know, I hate to have to even mention it,
but eighty years after we liberated those concentration camps, I mean,
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there's still a lot of people being murdered because they're Jewish,
and we have to keep that in mind and I
think call it out where we see it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Absolutely, So we are so glad we were able to
share with you that story from our listener It's so
we're so gratified and thankful that we have the listenership
that we do that brings such incredible both knowledge and
life experience to the show. So having you all weigh
in is one of the great joys of the show,
(26:47):
especially with something like that where you can really share
something with a few million people. Yeah, so thank you
so much to our listener forgiving us that. On a
less serious note, we still love our less serious notes though,
because we have a lot of you that weigh in
on talkbacks and on the phone and on things like that,
and we have This is a talkback DD from a
(27:11):
listener in upstate New York, Jay Listen on WGY radio.
Let's hear what Jay has to say. Oh, well, it
was in my inbox of one that we had, so
we will get back to that here momentarily. We also
have some VIP emails that we can get to. Here
(27:31):
we go. VIP listener, Don Trump cannot run for VP.
Refer to the Twelfth Amendment. Qualifications for VP are identical
to those for president. Now interesting, he's essentially saying, even, look,
I don't think Trump's running for a third term. Okay,
I don't think that's the thing that we need to
really be focused on our talking about. However, just in
the theoretical the backdoor third term option, Clay that most
(27:55):
people discuss without getting into exigencies, emergencies, whatever, is he
would be a vice president. I guess under vEDS VP
listener Don VIP listener Don is saying he cannot be
VP because to BVP you have to have the same
qualifications as president. Do you buy this? First of all,
the twelfth Amendment is a mess.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We talked about this in the context of you're not
technically able to both be from the same state.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Many people wanted Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And DeSantis to be a ticket. Obviously that didn't end
up happening. The amendments mean whatever five justices of the
Supreme Court say so.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
The reason why I.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Brought that up is Trump floated it as a possibility
in his interview with Kristen Welker of NBC News that
he could be the vice president for jd Vance, who
was elected president.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Again.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I think Trump is having some fun with this, but
I do think it's worth having this float around out there.
Here is what I think Trump really likes about this.
At some point, flag this April first, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
No fool's gold here for April fools.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think by the beginning of twenty twenty seven, you
are going to see an incredible pivot from the Democrat Party.
They are going to go buck from Trump is Hitler
to Trump is such a supremely uniquely talented politician that
his victories actually speak to his incredible acclaim and achievement,
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not to the Republican Party. They are going to pivot
and claim that he's Reagan. Just get ready for it.
Some of you think this is crazy. That's how they're
going to justify their loss in twenty four and their
loss in sixteen.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And they may even be willing to bring Barack Obama
into the conversation and say, we know what this is like,
we as Democrats because Barack Obama's two terms never translated
into victories for the Destocrats in the House. And now
after the first two night was a blowout, you know
they got to a super majority. Yes, but from there
(30:04):
on it was nothing but downward trajectory for the Democrat
Party all the way leading to Trump in twenty sixteen.
And it's kind of ironic that Obama's VP had to
come back of his own accord after being shut down
by Obama and Hillary in twenty sixteen to run in
twenty twenty. Right, so Obama, they might say that Trump
(30:26):
is kind of like our uh or rather, Trump is
your version of Obama Republicans. He was a unique political talent.
That does not speak to whether you actually connect more
with the American people as a party. It was all him,
by the way, I think you're right on this. I
think they will make that shift because it'll.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
A as soon as we get to twenty twenty seven
pre prepared for it. Also, you know what I mean,
heard other people start to ask questions about Even people
who previously said it was crazy are like, you know
that eighty one million Joe Biden votes. That's getting harder
and harder to explain how that could have happened Now
that we've had Trump on the ballot three different it's.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Still the all time record, right, oh yeah, all time record.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Joe Biden in twenty twenty got four million more votes
than Trump did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
The only way you could explain this that does not
involve rigging slash cheating, and I think it involves certainly rigging.
We can talk about the cheating.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I have.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
My concerns is that people were there was such a
psychological pandemic along with the COVID pandemic, that people went
nuts and just came out in crazy numbers to vote
for the Communist which is which was a huge an
unfortunate era, as we all know, because he didn't win
a second time because he was terrible and had dementia.
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We'll do more talkbacks calls, so light us up here
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Speaker 2 (33:19):
All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. We're closing
up shop today. We'll be with you again tomorrow here,
same time, same place. Clay and I hanging out in
the South, the South, Florida Freedom Bunker. Here Clay is
enjoying the lovely weather, the prevalence of fitness studios in
the neighborhood and yeah, you got me going to your
(33:40):
gym tomorrow. Clay Plays coming to a Miami Beach gym tomorrow.
He's going to walk around. He will never have seen
so many people who are juicing or on a stack
in his life. I would assume, I don't think that's
as much of a thing in Nashville as it is here.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
But also a lot of people record their workouts, right, like,
this is a very common thing, like to post you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Might see some of that. Uh, there are other gyms
where that is incredibly common. There are other gyms that
where that happens. Because people, particularly of the of the
young lady variety, monetize videos of their workouts. It's crazy,
and some of them make a lot of no, I
don't really mean their workout like they actually just put
up video of themselves and they become big influencers and
(34:23):
everything else. So Clay has never been to a South
Beach jim before, and uh, we're gonna give him his
first experience. Looking forward to hearing the the review of
how it goes And with that in mind, Jimmy and
Aguwam Massachusetts wants to talk about Sidney Sweeney. What's going on,
Jimmy and mass By Clay and back up?
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yeah, I just wanted to congratulate you guys with a
great combo. You are c I A and sports out kick,
and you guys do an excellent job.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
I heard I heard you talking about Sidney Sweeney and
I was watching some coverage from Jimmy fallon over and
twenty nineteen in England. They were representing US opening up
for the Stones new album and Sydney Sweeney place in
that video. She's on the car. It's the song called Angry.
(35:13):
And so you guys mentioned her for snow White, But
after seeing that video, I don't know if you'd say
snow white again.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Can I just throw out there, Jimmy Clay mentioned her
for snow White. This was a Clay recommendation that has
gotten a lot of attention online.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I wanted Disney to make a billion dollars by putting
Sidney Sweeney in a snow white outfit. Now, my wife disagreed,
Jimmy disagrees. I think it's genius. You know, all genius
is not immediately supported by the entire American populace and
Jimmy's saying, no chatter for you, Jimmy, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Jimmy disagrees. I love Tuesday. By the way, what did
I say that?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Like a week ago, Jimmy still doing his research, he
saw a video, didn't like it. Wanted to make sure
that we knew that he didn't think she was snow
white material.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Let's do a talkback FF New York City seven to
ten WR listener fran hit It.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Thank you both so much for playing that recollection of Okinawa.
That was really amazing, and this is exactly the kind
of history that our students and kids in this country
should be learning. And it just breaks my heart that
we lost so many people.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Thank you. It was really powerful. That's why we wanted
to play it for you.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, and also because I do believe that historical illiteracy
is one of the biggest challenges that we face in
this country. If you don't know your history, then you
are likely to believe that every single moment is the
most catastrophically dangerous that this country has ever faced. And look,
we won World War Two, we had an election during
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the Civil War. You and I are both history nerds.
I think it's important that people have a better grasp
on all the things we've overcome and all the victories
we've posted
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