April 2, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a discussion on recent political victories in Florida, highlighting wins in the first and sixth congressional districts. The hosts delve into the mixed results from Wisconsin, noting the approval of a voter ID ballot initiative but the loss of a State Supreme Court seat. They analyze the implications of these elections, including potential shifts in congressional seats and the broader political landscape.
The conversation transitions to former President Trump's declaration of "Liberation Day" on Truth Social, exploring its significance and potential impact. The hosts also discuss budget cuts at HHS, NIH, and CDC, emphasizing the need for fiscal responsibility and the effects on public health.
Clay and Buck then examine the performance of Republican candidates in special elections, comparing turnout and spending between Democrats and Republicans. They highlight the challenges Republicans face in off-cycle elections and the importance of strategic planning to avoid losses similar to those in Georgia's special elections.
The hosts share personal anecdotes about their gym experiences in South Beach, discussing the unique workout culture and the popularity of cold plunges. They segue into a broader conversation about the Democratic Party's current state, criticizing its lack of moderation and the influence of radical elements.
The show covers the potential acquisition of TikTok by Amazon, analyzing the implications for the tech industry and social media landscape. They also touch on the popularity of platforms like YouTube and TikTok among younger audiences, reflecting on the changing media consumption habits.
The hour concludes with a discussion on the internal conflicts within the Democratic Party, including former President Obama's alleged efforts to undermine Kamala Harris's 2024 presidential bid. The hosts speculate on the future leadership of the party and the potential rise of figures like Gavin Newsom and Wes Moore.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. And there's a lot going on.
Victory in Florida. I just want to take a moment
here with my fellow Floridians listening. And Clay is like
a half Floridian. I know that Tennessee doesn't want to
give up one of their favorite sons, but Clay does
have property on the Gulf of America and spends a
(00:23):
fair amount of time in Florida. Big wins in the
state of Florida, the first and six congressional districts. We
thought that was going to happen, you know, Randy Fine
came through, Jimmy Petronas came through. All good there. Not
as awesome up in Wisconsin. Maybe a bit of a
Wisconsin wake up call, but something of a mixed bag.
(00:44):
We did not win the open Supreme Court State Supreme
Court seat there, but there was a ballot initiative on
I D voter ID and that did get approved. So
you know, it's mixed. Isn't what we wanted. Certainly, now
we're gonna probably drop two congressional seats from the Republican
(01:06):
column in Wisconsin. But we'll get more into that. Trump
sharing out on truth social It's Liberation Day in America.
He's really going all in on this. I mean, this
is is this gonna be Trump's first new federal holiday
that he tries to declare if this goes as well
as he's hoping, Liberation Day is something that I had
(01:28):
not expected to get as much attention from him. We
also got cuts at HHS NI, h c DC, which
we should certainly discuss, and then some other stories that
are gonna get into the mix here. But Clay, I
would I would start with what is your feeling about
the elections that occurred yesterday? I mean, they're they're doing
(01:50):
here here, here's Jake Tapper. I said this would happen.
They're saying, Okay, well he's winning big, but it's not
as big a win. This is over at CNN play
cut two.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
This is a strong candidate and he is he's going
to win. We're projecting a win for him. But Dana,
it's not a thirty five point win that it should
be in ruby red handhandle Florida. You're exactly right, and
it is the whole question of the margins, Jake, that
is what democrats have been looking at all night, Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean this is look, they're looking for silver linings
for their audience there. Now they're trying to which Wisconsin
has clearly got ah Men over at MSNBC. Wisconsin is
the story of the day, no question. But everyone knew
that Patronas was going to win. He won by a
whole bunch. Randy Fine won by a solid margin. I
think Republicans showed up. It's an off election cycle. It's
(02:43):
tough to get people that excited in a super red
district to come out in huge numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Look, Democrats outperform Republicans in special elections across the board,
and this is why I think Republicans need to look
at the data. I think, frankly, this is why they
pulled old Stefanic. I think that's why they pulled her
you in ambassadorship because they knew that in her district
(03:08):
in New York, based on the numbers in Florida, that
people were just not going to show up on.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
The same level.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And it doesn't really surprise me. I think what it
means is the twenty five percent of the Democrat Party
diehards are going to vote no matter what, and that
happens basically nationwide, and there are a lot more casual
I would say busy Republican voters that show up for
(03:37):
the big events but don't show up for the primary season.
And I think that that is well understood at this point.
To me, winning by fifteen points in the Florida six
when you're outspent five six to one, winning in Florida
one by fifteen or sixteen points even though you're outspent
there to me is a pretty solid sign. But I
(04:00):
think we need to avoid special elections. Sometimes you can't
help it, but buck the kick and the teeth. In
twenty twenty, the thing, the reason I think we got
to nine percent inflation was not because Biden got elected president.
It's because Georgia, in double special elections gave Joe Biden
the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But Georgian we lost three should win Republican Senate seats
in Georgia, three in one state over the course of
a couple of election cycles. So yeah, that was a
disaster and one that caught and cost the country. Truly
cost the country trillions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I don't think we would have gotten above four or
five percent inflation. I really mean this if Georgia had
had one of those two races go to the Republican
Party because there was enough opposition to Biden's agenda that
there would have had to be some moderation.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And let me just say this too, if Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Manchin and Kirsten Cinema, but Joe Manchin in particular hadn't
put the stop gap on it. Remember, Biden wanted to
spend five trillion dollars. I'm not saying Mansion was perfect.
I think he got it wrong with the Build Back
Better Bill. I think the Inflation Adjustment, a reduction act
that actually increased inflation, was a bad decision. But Biden
(05:16):
would have blown inflation into the fifteen or sixteen percent
category if he had been allowed to spend like he
wanted to spend. But he never would have been allowed
to do that if we had won the special elections
in Georgia. Yeah, so it's overall overall, I think it
was a good day yesterday for Republicans.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Not a perfect day.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And I do have to remind everybody the numbers for
the Democrats continue to go down, and the Democrats klan
I were talking about this. We actually just carry was
with us. We did a gym workout South Beach, you know,
working on our pecks, this our delta.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
This is the I've never seen so many people in
a gym. This was not us wearing less clothes to
work out. I've never been in a gym. It was
like we were at a bait. It was like a
swim party. The girls were basically just working out in
their bikinis.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I've never seen.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's like, it's like a lingerie show in the gym
every day.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
This is I've never I grew up in New York City.
I went to the gym there. I've never seen anything
like it in my life. And here it's quite a show.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I was not in my lingerie. In case anybody wonders, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mean even the guys aren't wearing very much. A lot
of very skimpy tank tops on. The guys showing your brother.
Your brother walked by, and I was like a tag
top guy top work out. I've got a full T
shirt on. I felt like I was like I was
in a burka. But you know, we were we were
walking here, walking back and and just talking about what
we're going to get into on the show and how
I'm a little surprised. Are you a little surprised too,
(06:41):
I'm a little surprised that the the tacking toward the center.
It's not just that they're they're slow to do it
or I think they're unwilling to do it. I think
the Democrats are and I don't mean on everything obviously. Look,
Kamala got a lot of votes, she was a horrible candidate.
We didn't win by that much in some Wisconsin might
(07:01):
be a good wake up call for everybody that we're
talking about, fine Margins. Yes, Trump won the ran the
table and won the election, and it was awesome and fantastic,
but he's not gonna well, we don't think he's gonna
be the guy running the next time around. And the
parties are neck and neck still with as crazy as
Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
So are you.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Surprised about the lack of I mean moderation, lack of sanity.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, Because right after the election we said you have
two options when you get your ass kicked. One is
you can say, oh, you know, and I think it
works for sports too. You can say, hey, we had
an awful game plan. We got to go back and
figure out a way to win. What Democrats have gone
with is not we had an awful game plan. They've
(07:48):
gone with Our message wasn't heard well enough by the
American voter, and I think that's completely wrong. They spent
a billion and a half dollars on Kamala Harris in
roughly ninety days, and everybody knew Kamala Harris's message.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It was just an awful mess. Can I offer some
additional context on this, given the astonishing lie that the
Democrats were all in on that Joe Biden was fine,
that there weren't even more defections. Yeah, to the Republican Party.
I think goes to the strength of the hive mind
and the collectivists. Keep in mind, everybody, if you were
(08:26):
a Democrat who voted for Biden in twenty twenty, and
you were a reasonable rational person this time around, not
only should you be appalled at his performance, they should
have been appalled at the fact that it was hidden
by the And all the books are coming out now
on which we told you they were. Of course, we
told you the truth would be told as soon as
the election was over. And now everybody, including Jake Tapper,
(08:47):
who claimed that has got a book about how decrepit
Biden was but yeah, look, I think what you have
to take in is there is a committed cadre of
twenty five percent of Americains who truly believe that Trump
is Hitler, and they are going to show up for
every special election with the idea being that they believe
(09:09):
they have to say big country. This is like the
Democrat Bolsheviks. Yeah, I mean, these are people very interesting.
Little historical note. Back in the early days of the
Soviet what was the Russian and Soviet Revolution, there were
the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks. The Bolsheviks their name is
supposed to be majoritarian. They never had popular support, even
among the collectivists. They called themselves that to fool people.
(09:30):
The hard left in this country does not have popular support,
but they have been able to infiltrate and control institutions
to include the DNC and the Democrat Party in recent
election cycles, so their ideas don't actually have to be popular.
Their ideas weren't popular during COVID when they were freaking
everybody out and shutting everything down, but they did it
(09:51):
anyway in a lot of places that didn't want it
to happen.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
There's good.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I thought your analogy yesterday is going to all so
I said, by twenty twenty seven, they're going to be
talking about how unique of a candidate Trump is and
that he doesn't have coattails, and it's not Trump sorry,
it's not the Republican Party's great message.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
It's just Trump is a uniquely talented candidate.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Obama was the same way in that there, I would
argue Trump has better coattails than Obama does. But they're
going to try to argue, hey, look, Trump, we're gonna
we're gonna crush you guys in twenty twenty six. I
don't think they can take back the Senate. In fact,
I think Republicans just looking at the map actually have
(10:29):
a really good chance to add one or two seats.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I think that's very reasonable.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But if they take back the House, they're gonna argue
after twenty twenty six, hey we're winning twenty twenty eight,
Trump is a uniquely talented candidate. They're gonna go from
he's hitler to actually, you know what, he's an incredible candidate,
and they're gonna argue that JD. Vance or whomever the
candidate is does not have the same cachet and appeal
(10:54):
and won't turn out those non traditional voters.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And it is true in twenty twenty and twenty.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Twenty four there were a lot of people who showed
up at the polls that I think Democrats thought were
not going to show up at the polls.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, I do believe with Trump MAGA it is a
movement and because his VP does represent the next generation
JD vance of leadership and is not Remember, Democrats did
something very weird. They had Hillary beaten by Obama Obama
for eight years, and then they tried to kind of
trot out Hillary as the you know, the plan B
(11:28):
the second option here. Oh, but she should be the president. Now.
There was I know, she was Obama secretary of State,
which didn't go so well. Go check out what happened
in Megazi, among other things. But there was no oh,
she's being you know, prepared, She's the success There was
no sense that she was Obama's successor within obamasm if
(11:48):
you will. It wasn't like he was. She was, Oh,
I'm a part of the Obama movement. She's like, I'm
a famous politician because my husband was a famous politician,
and now it's my turn. And it didn't play very well.
I think with JD. And also with an number of
people who are just going to be powerful going forward
in the Republican Party who are of the younger generation.
The narrative arc is they were there with Trump and
(12:09):
they honed their skills. You know, his tutelage is what
will allow them to take it going forward. So I
think there's a little bit of a better shot. There,
no doubt.
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of you hanging out with us a bit of news
that has just popped TikTok. Buck, your favorite TikTok dance app.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Probably my favorite app. I'd still like to see the
after the iHeart App, excuse me, the iHeart App number one,
But I like the TikTok. I would still like to
see the hidden burned, potentially never to be found again.
Buck learning TikTok dances by himself and his those those
had been buried with all the vaccine data from COVID too.
(14:34):
They're never going to be seen day. This is just
breaking news.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
New York Times reports, We've been talking a lot about
what the future of TikTok was going to be. Trump
gave them a reprieve from what was supposed to be
the shutdown soon after his election. Amazon Amazon Jeff Bezos.
Is Amazon just living down the street. Bezos with his
multi one hundred million dollar manch.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
He does have more than one house from what I understand,
I guess he does now I believe home base.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And I think he grew up in Miami. Right did
he grow up? A good question?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think I think Bezos grew up in Miami and
has returned to his homeland. But Amazon has made a
last minute bid to acquire TikTok ahead of the upcoming
April deadline. Now, the talk had been that Oracle, which
is obviously a high tech company that is Larry Ellison's province.
(15:29):
If I remember and remember Larry Ellison's son, this is
all gets very incestuous, is trying right now to buy Paramount,
the CBS company and all of those assets David Ellison
and then now TikTok. Was the expectation that Oracle was
going to buy the this is the American assets, and
now Amazon, which is what two trillion dollar company suddenly
(15:51):
parachutes in.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This could get.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Kind of interesting. I think there's been a tremendous upside
from whatever day trading you're doing. You know, more than
the CNBC anchors or whatever that I want about this stuff,
like you could be I mean, you do this show,
you a sports show.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I will actually do one of those shows with like
the stock ticker at the bottom. I love I love
media companies, businesses, everything else. I feel like I kind
of know them, and uh, this is gonna be super
interesting to see exactly how all of this is going
to play out. Because Bezos has cozied up to Trump
(16:25):
in a pretty significant way. In fact, Trump told me
when I was on Air Force one with him that
he really liked Bezos, that he was a good guy.
Is the play all along from Bezos? Hey, we're gonna
swoop in at the last minute, try to get TikTok?
Does he see something that Oracle's doing? How does all
of this play out? You love TikTok? I mean, if
you my boys love YouTube and TikTok. That's where they
(16:47):
spend their time. My kids.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, I was just I was out with a friend,
Kery and I were out with a couple that are
good friends of ours and they had their their ten
year old and I told Clay this, and for a
moment there we're sitting We're watching the Miami the Open tennis,
you know, uh, because I love tennis, as you know,
and we're watching it and the ten year old sitting
next to me one side carries on the other end.
I look at him and I go, you know, hey,
(17:08):
you know, I ask, have you seen the movies that
I when I was ten years old, I could recite
every line from Back to the Future, right, I mean,
there were just some of these. He hasn't seen any
of them. And then I was like, well, what do
you what TV shows do you like?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And I grew up.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I was watching obviously ThunderCats, right, ThunderCats, Amazing ThunderCats ho
uh and and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and all this stuff.
G I Joe, G I Joe, G I Joe back
when you know, patriotism and kicking ass were considered fine
for Americans. Uh, Clay, he hasn't seen any of them.
And there's no shows that he watches, you know what
he watches YouTube And mister Beast, I told I.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Was just like what I told you.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
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Ted Cruz. Mister Beast was there. My kids were more
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ever met. Sports politics, they met, they met the President.
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motion collapse and infighting of the Democrat Party for a second,
shall we. This is This is like the dessert section
(19:05):
of this hour. This is where we just get to
have a little bit of fun. I told you already
Wisconsin didn't win that Supreme Court State Supreme Court seat.
A little disappointing, but we knew it was gonna be
very tough. Off cycle. Democrats get their crazies out in
the off cycle. We got to work more on this. Okay,
we did win those Republican congressional seats in Florida, though,
so that was the most well maybe we'll say we'll
(19:26):
say it's even okay, it's like they get two congressional
seats in Wisconsin. We probably lost, but we kept two
in the Florida. Maybe Wisconsin was a little more important. Whatever.
Let's talk about Democrats and how they hate each other. Well,
first off, they're upset the newest the newest rating for
Democrats in Congress specifically, here's CNN's version. Here's CNN's bootleg
(19:48):
Ryan Grdusky Harry Enton, who is telling everybody, listen to
what the congressional rating is for Democrats. Now play three.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Holy Toledo voters' views of the Democrats and Congress. Among
all voters, disapproved sixty eight percent. And look at the
approved number just twenty one percent, even lower than the
Democratic Party at large.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
This is the lowest on record.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
For Democrats, according to Quinnipiac University polling.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You think these.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Numbers have been let's go to this side of the screen.
We'll look how Democratic voters feel. Get this, the plurality
of democratic voters disapprove of Democrats in Congress at forty
nine percent and just forty percent approve.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Oh my goodness, gracious, you just can't get worse than
these numbers.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Democrats are about as popular as stubbing your toe. So
the nail comes off. It's pretty rough, right now.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, Look, and they're going to try to take momentum
from the special elections, as we started off this show
talking about the fact that Trump won those districts, the
first and the sixth by thirty five ish points in
the twenty twenty four election. But what you really have
to dive into is turnout, and turnout was and is
(21:00):
on these special elections a fraction of how many people
show up for presidential elections and how many people show
up for midterms. To be frank, and the real challenge
here is Democrats can be wildly unpopular, and that's what
happens when you take a lot of positions that are
in fact wildly unpopular. But the problem for the House
is there's only around twenty five seats that are actually
(21:25):
swingable at this point. Both parties have done such a
job jerrymandering the states that they control that there aren't
very many toss up seats, so I think the likelihood
of either party being able to win more than four
or five in any direction is actually highly, highly unlikely.
And again I said, I think Democrats are going to
(21:49):
lose Senate seats.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I think, wasn't it Maureen Dowd just put out a
column that the Democrat Party is in a coma. I
think that was the title, which feels pretty apt that
we've been saying something very similar here, because it is,
and they know it, and they're trying to figure out
what to do because, like any party that is overtaken
by radicals, moderation isn't really possible for them right now,
(22:11):
because moderation would mean expelling the twenty percent ideologically who
have been calling the shots and making demands. This is
like the trans stuff, This is like the open borders,
we are one world, let all the illegals in stuff,
I mean, really unpopular nationally policies. Twenty percent of Democrats
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aren't just for it, they are all in on it
and would feel betrayed unless you continue to push for that.
So that's one thing I think is really interesting. There's
also the infighting that's going on. With who's going to
be in charge of the Democrat Party going forward. I
just saw this, Clay, I thought this was really interesting.
NBC political reporter Jonathan Allen here claiming that Obama worked
(22:54):
behind the scenes to derail Kamala. Yeah, in twenty twenty four, this.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
President Obama absolutely did not think that Joe Biden should continue,
according to our sources close to President Obama, and he
also didn't want Kamala Harris to be the replacement for Biden.
He didn't think that she was the best choice for Democrats,
and he worked really behind the scenes for a long
time to try to have a mini primary or an
open convention, or many primary leading to an open convention.
(23:23):
Did not have faith in her ability to win the election.
So and as it turned out, she didn't win, but
he was really working against her.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Two things, Clay, One, do you buy this too? Do
you think Obama's meddling might have actually helped Trump substantially
because of the behind the scenes shenanigans to undermine Kamala
when she was supposed to ascend.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So I have thought for a long time that basically
Barack Obama ghost wrote George Clooney's op ed in the
New York Times. And I think the New York Times
editorial board knows it too, because just think about this.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Why would they really feature George.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Clooney and his political opinion as some incredibly important statement.
George Clooney has never been a politician. He's never been,
to my knowledge, a particularly perceptive figure in Democrat politics.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Trump and I agree, he's not even a very good act.
You and Trump and I aligned on this one big time.
You and Trump don't even think he's a movie star
in any way. I think all I think that that
George Klooney's op ed was one hundred percent ghost written
by Barack Obama. But but here's the thing Obama is not.
This actually lines up for me in so many ways.
(24:37):
Obama is not a tactician of politics beyond pushing himself
and you know, thinking that he's God. Basically, he is
not a political strategist of any people whatsoever, based on
what the Democrat Party I think descended into under his
tenure for eight years, remember led to Trump. He made
(24:58):
fun of Trump at that. Yeah, and Trump then became president.
Like you think about the Obama story, arc he was
good at getting himself elected. He was not good at
leading a party. Remember, people say, oh, Obamacare, there are
a few things that have Obama came in after a
recession that was actually decades in the making. It's a
whole other story. We would have time to get into
(25:19):
it now. But didn't get anything done on immigration, didn't
get anything done on climate change, which were the two
other primary issues that he wanted to work on. But
also what was his plan bringing this into this conversation
about Kamala derailing Kamala?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Who was the better option you wanted to That's the
thing on the George Clooney op ed he wanted a
many primary.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But but you think about who would have been in
that part. It would have been Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsome, like,
think of me.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Do you know who was mentioned that you've said could
rise up as the twenty twenty eight candidate, Wes Moore.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Wes Moore, Yeah, I George George.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Clooney specifically mentioned him there, I think too. So I
think you're right about the crazy town perspectives that so
many Democrats have adopted if they have a history, and remember,
in particular, Kamala got raked over the coals, as she
should have for saying I support transgender surgeries for legal immigrants.
(26:14):
That's why I think that the Democrats are going to
have to find someone like Trump who is a non
traditional candidate that doesn't have crazy town opinions that are
public remember, that can recalibrate and redefine the entire party.
The first time that I took note of Trump as
a candidate was when he said the Iraq War was
(26:36):
a disaster.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Basically I'm paraphrasing him.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Nobody else at that point in time was willing to
criticize the decision to go to the Iraq War because
so many Republican politicians supported it. Trump wasn't a Republican
politician at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It wasn't even just Republicans, it was Democrats too, which
was including Hillary Clinton. I was going to say, a
big part of why Hillary was able to, oh sorry,
Obama was able to outflank Hillary was a Obama was like, look,
you voted for that disaster, that's right, and Hillary was,
you know, Hillary, So she wasn't exactly great at ingratiating herself.
The party has to be blown up, I think in
the Democrats. Well, this is on the breakfast club, very
(27:13):
very a popular show on in the mornings on iHeart,
Charlemagne spoke about how he thinks. And this is a
guy with a big audience. A lot of Democrats listen
to him. The Democrat, you know, top candidates and Kamala
and everybody you know, they go on this show, and
mister the God was saying that everybody needs to be
primaried and thrown out of office in the Democrat leadership.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Now play four who was supposed to be the leaders Well,
in Congress you've got two people. The first one is
this guy, House Minority Leader, Hakim Jeffers.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
In America, we don't have a king, we don't have
a monarch, we don't have a dictator.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Yeah, I'm not feeling too inspired by business casual Morpheus.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Okay, and pay.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
Leth, Obama's counterpart in the Senate, he's somehow even less inspiring.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
It's going to affect beer.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Most of it Corona here comes from Mexico. It's going
to affect your guac because what is guacamole?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Native avocados?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Shuma is not the.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Man would have planned to fight Trump, heed, the man
would have planned for a good single to MYO, it's
not my job to say that any particular candidates need
to be primaried and thrown out of office, but Hakeem
Jeffries and Chuck Schuman need to be primaried and thrown
out of office.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I mean, I think he's right in so far as
the party needs a total shakeup. I agree with his assessment.
This is what you know that there's some that you
know that there's a lot of truth being thrown around
when people who have been fighters on the right for
a long time are saying the same things about the
Democrat Party that honest Democrats are saying about the Democrat Party,
which is what's going on right now. They need new leadership.
(28:49):
Chuck Schumer is not going anywhere though because of the
purse strings. He's a huge fundraising operation. Hakeem Jeffries, I
don't think he's actually going to stay in Democrat leadershi
for very long. But I keep they're so much of
the Democrat hopes and dreams rest on AOC's shoulders right now.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I think that he's right about Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer.
Neither one of them have any particular vision to be
able to not only tell Democrats where they should go,
but really point out where Trump is.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Rung, Schumer is there. Mitch McConnell, he's just a fundraising
per strings institution in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I think he'll be gone in twenty twenty eight when
his I think he'll say, hey, I'm not going to
run again, We'll have a new leadership. I think he's
going to be in real trouble if I'm right and
they lose seats in twenty twenty six, because then it's
hard to make up as many seats as they would
need to make up to take back control of the Senate.
He wouldn't have any possibility of getting to the majority.
(29:47):
But this is where I think Gavin Newsom, as much
as I think he is an unabashed liar, even by
political politician standards, Gavin Newsom is a real liar. Gavin Newsom,
I think, recognizes that the Democrat Party has lost in
the wilderness in a way that many others are not
(30:07):
willing to admit, and he's trying to lead them out
of the wilderness, including this ridiculous perspective where he's finally
decided to take on the idea that men should be
able to compete in women's sports. He called it completely unfair.
Now he's previously said the exact opposite of that, and
I think it leaves him vulnerable. But Democrats don't care.
(30:29):
They will nominate him. I think the question is if
he were the nominee, would he be able to be
defined in a way like Kamala was. I think he's
a more sophisticated, better speaker than Kamala is, better than Schumer,
better than Hakeem Jefferies. I think you're right about AOC
and I think that she would, unfortunately for her, get
(30:52):
exposed because I don't know that she's got a lot
of depth, but I think she does understand narrative cycle.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I also believe that there is a frustration again the
Democrats who know how to win elections in different districts
and states, who you know, the Democrat consultants who get
paid the big bucks to swindle just enough of the
voters that the the Democrat who's from Wisconsin or Michigan
or Pennsylvania's like I'm a I'm a Maverick Democrat, right,
(31:19):
like that stuff. They can't rely on the abortion issue
the way that they were planning on it. I remember
there were people who were saying if Roe v Wade's
overturned Republicans will never win another election. Yes, if Roe v.
Wade's overturned Republicans are going to get be And now
I knew that wasn't true. And that first election, that
first midterm. Afterwards, you know, there was the the sort
(31:42):
of the some of the Jan six hangover stuff with
the insurrection, and then there was in the states I
think there were they're able to basically just lie to
people and say abortion is going to be illegal in
you know, New Mexico, or in abortion is going to
be illegal in New York or so it's never gonna happen.
They're not going to change anything, and so that shoe
is off the table for them as a major nationwide
(32:04):
mobilization because anybody who's up for grabs gonna say, look,
I know what the deal is in my state. I
know what the law is in my state. And that's
that's where it is, like they're not So what really
are the Democrats going to run on. I'm telling you
they're gonna pivot big time to class warfare stuff and healthcare.
And I think that's really interesting because how does their
(32:25):
pivots to healthcare in advance of the midterms play in
with the whole conversation that's going to be happening around
Luigi Mangioni, the healthcare Assassin's allegedly right. It's very good
because they're going to try to be like, oh, we're
the ones that care about people and everything else, and
there's gonna be lunatic left wing Democrats who are out
there saying we love Luigi as they have been.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I think they're going to.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Try to run the abortion playbook again in twenty six
and I think it's going to fail. This is my
thought because the average person they oversold fear. I think
to a lot of people out there, the reality is
if you live in a left wing state, abortion is
very prominent and easy to get. If you live in
a right wing state, it's more difficult, but you can
still travel to other states.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I don't think the.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Average mom and grandma of fourteen and fifteen year old
girls that might have bought in in twenty twenty two
and clearly did to the idea that Republicans are going
to be dragging your daughters or granddaughters by their hair
all the fear campaign.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
They were able to pull it one time, and now
that and it did not affect this presidential election. Nobody
was talking about abortion in a way that except for
that lady who's like, I'm a political analyst.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Look, and they tried aggressively buck Remember the police officer
dragging the woman out of the car, Like, try, it
didn't work, and I think it's not going to work
in twenty six again.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Look.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
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Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. And there's a lot going on.
Victory in Florida. I just want to take a moment
here with my fellow Floridians listening. And Clay is like
a half Floridian. I know that Tennessee doesn't want to
give up one of their favorite sons, but Clay does
have property on the Gulf of America and spends a
(00:23):
fair amount of time in Florida. Big wins in the
state of Florida, the first and six congressional districts. We
thought that was going to happen, you know, Randy Fine
came through, Jimmy Petronas came through. All good there. Not
as awesome up in Wisconsin. Maybe a bit of a
Wisconsin wake up call, but something of a mixed bag.
(00:44):
We did not win the open Supreme Court State Supreme
Court seat there, but there was a ballot initiative on
I D voter ID and that did get approved. So
you know, it's mixed. Isn't what we wanted. Certainly, now
we're gonna probably drop two congressional seats from the Republican
(01:06):
column in Wisconsin. But we'll get more into that. Trump
sharing out on truth social It's Liberation Day in America.
He's really going all in on this. I mean, this
is is this gonna be Trump's first new federal holiday
that he tries to declare if this goes as well
as he's hoping, Liberation Day is something that I had
(01:28):
not expected to get as much attention from him. We
also got cuts at HHS NI, h c DC, which
we should certainly discuss, and then some other stories that
are gonna get into the mix here. But Clay, I
would I would start with what is your feeling about
the elections that occurred yesterday? I mean, they're they're doing
(01:50):
here here, here's Jake Tapper. I said this would happen.
They're saying, Okay, well he's winning big, but it's not
as big a win. This is over at CNN play
cut two.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
This is a strong candidate and he is he's going
to win. We're projecting a win for him. But Dana,
it's not a thirty five point win that it should
be in ruby red handhandle Florida. You're exactly right, and
it is the whole question of the margins, Jake, that
is what democrats have been looking at all night, Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean this is look, they're looking for silver linings
for their audience there. Now they're trying to which Wisconsin
has clearly got ah Men over at MSNBC. Wisconsin is
the story of the day, no question. But everyone knew
that Patronas was going to win. He won by a
whole bunch. Randy Fine won by a solid margin. I
think Republicans showed up. It's an off election cycle. It's
(02:43):
tough to get people that excited in a super red
district to come out in huge numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Look, Democrats outperform Republicans in special elections across the board,
and this is why I think Republicans need to look
at the data. I think, frankly, this is why they
pulled old Stefanic. I think that's why they pulled her
you in ambassadorship because they knew that in her district
(03:08):
in New York, based on the numbers in Florida, that
people were just not going to show up on.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
The same level.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And it doesn't really surprise me. I think what it
means is the twenty five percent of the Democrat Party
diehards are going to vote no matter what, and that
happens basically nationwide, and there are a lot more casual
I would say busy Republican voters that show up for
(03:37):
the big events but don't show up for the primary season.
And I think that that is well understood at this point.
To me, winning by fifteen points in the Florida six
when you're outspent five six to one, winning in Florida
one by fifteen or sixteen points even though you're outspent
there to me is a pretty solid sign. But I
(04:00):
think we need to avoid special elections. Sometimes you can't
help it, but buck the kick and the teeth. In
twenty twenty, the thing, the reason I think we got
to nine percent inflation was not because Biden got elected president.
It's because Georgia, in double special elections gave Joe Biden
the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But Georgian we lost three should win Republican Senate seats
in Georgia, three in one state over the course of
a couple of election cycles. So yeah, that was a
disaster and one that caught and cost the country. Truly
cost the country trillions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I don't think we would have gotten above four or
five percent inflation. I really mean this if Georgia had
had one of those two races go to the Republican
Party because there was enough opposition to Biden's agenda that
there would have had to be some moderation.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And let me just say this too, if Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Manchin and Kirsten Cinema, but Joe Manchin in particular hadn't
put the stop gap on it. Remember, Biden wanted to
spend five trillion dollars. I'm not saying Mansion was perfect.
I think he got it wrong with the Build Back
Better Bill. I think the Inflation Adjustment, a reduction act
that actually increased inflation, was a bad decision. But Biden
(05:16):
would have blown inflation into the fifteen or sixteen percent
category if he had been allowed to spend like he
wanted to spend. But he never would have been allowed
to do that if we had won the special elections
in Georgia. Yeah, so it's overall overall, I think it
was a good day yesterday for Republicans.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Not a perfect day.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And I do have to remind everybody the numbers for
the Democrats continue to go down, and the Democrats klan
I were talking about this. We actually just carry was
with us. We did a gym workout South Beach, you know,
working on our pecks, this our delta.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
This is the I've never seen so many people in
a gym. This was not us wearing less clothes to
work out. I've never been in a gym. It was
like we were at a bait. It was like a
swim party. The girls were basically just working out in
their bikinis.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I've never seen.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's like, it's like a lingerie show in the gym
every day.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
This is I've never I grew up in New York City.
I went to the gym there. I've never seen anything
like it in my life. And here it's quite a show.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I was not in my lingerie. In case anybody wonders, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mean even the guys aren't wearing very much. A lot
of very skimpy tank tops on. The guys showing your brother.
Your brother walked by, and I was like a tag
top guy top work out. I've got a full T
shirt on. I felt like I was like I was
in a burka. But you know, we were we were
walking here, walking back and and just talking about what
we're going to get into on the show and how
I'm a little surprised. Are you a little surprised too,
(06:41):
I'm a little surprised that the the tacking toward the center.
It's not just that they're they're slow to do it
or I think they're unwilling to do it. I think
the Democrats are and I don't mean on everything obviously. Look,
Kamala got a lot of votes, she was a horrible candidate.
We didn't win by that much in some Wisconsin might
(07:01):
be a good wake up call for everybody that we're
talking about, fine Margins. Yes, Trump won the ran the
table and won the election, and it was awesome and fantastic,
but he's not gonna well, we don't think he's gonna
be the guy running the next time around. And the
parties are neck and neck still with as crazy as
Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
So are you.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Surprised about the lack of I mean moderation, lack of sanity.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, Because right after the election we said you have
two options when you get your ass kicked. One is
you can say, oh, you know, and I think it
works for sports too. You can say, hey, we had
an awful game plan. We got to go back and
figure out a way to win. What Democrats have gone
with is not we had an awful game plan. They've
(07:48):
gone with Our message wasn't heard well enough by the
American voter, and I think that's completely wrong. They spent
a billion and a half dollars on Kamala Harris in
roughly ninety days, and everybody knew Kamala Harris's message.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It was just an awful mess. Can I offer some
additional context on this, given the astonishing lie that the
Democrats were all in on that Joe Biden was fine,
that there weren't even more defections. Yeah, to the Republican Party.
I think goes to the strength of the hive mind
and the collectivists. Keep in mind, everybody, if you were
(08:26):
a Democrat who voted for Biden in twenty twenty, and
you were a reasonable rational person this time around, not
only should you be appalled at his performance, they should
have been appalled at the fact that it was hidden
by the And all the books are coming out now
on which we told you they were. Of course, we
told you the truth would be told as soon as
the election was over. And now everybody, including Jake Tapper,
(08:47):
who claimed that has got a book about how decrepit
Biden was but yeah, look, I think what you have
to take in is there is a committed cadre of
twenty five percent of Americains who truly believe that Trump
is Hitler, and they are going to show up for
every special election with the idea being that they believe
(09:09):
they have to say big country. This is like the
Democrat Bolsheviks. Yeah, I mean, these are people very interesting.
Little historical note. Back in the early days of the
Soviet what was the Russian and Soviet Revolution, there were
the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks. The Bolsheviks their name is
supposed to be majoritarian. They never had popular support, even
among the collectivists. They called themselves that to fool people.
(09:30):
The hard left in this country does not have popular support,
but they have been able to infiltrate and control institutions
to include the DNC and the Democrat Party in recent
election cycles, so their ideas don't actually have to be popular.
Their ideas weren't popular during COVID when they were freaking
everybody out and shutting everything down, but they did it
(09:51):
anyway in a lot of places that didn't want it
to happen.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
There's good.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I thought your analogy yesterday is going to all so
I said, by twenty twenty seven, they're going to be
talking about how unique of a candidate Trump is and
that he doesn't have coattails, and it's not Trump sorry,
it's not the Republican Party's great message.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
It's just Trump is a uniquely talented candidate.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Obama was the same way in that there, I would
argue Trump has better coattails than Obama does. But they're
going to try to argue, hey, look, Trump, we're gonna
we're gonna crush you guys in twenty twenty six. I
don't think they can take back the Senate. In fact,
I think Republicans just looking at the map actually have
(10:29):
a really good chance to add one or two seats.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I think that's very reasonable.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But if they take back the House, they're gonna argue
after twenty twenty six, hey we're winning twenty twenty eight,
Trump is a uniquely talented candidate. They're gonna go from
he's hitler to actually, you know what, he's an incredible candidate,
and they're gonna argue that JD. Vance or whomever the
candidate is does not have the same cachet and appeal
(10:54):
and won't turn out those non traditional voters.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And it is true in twenty twenty and twenty.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Twenty four there were a lot of people who showed
up at the polls that I think Democrats thought were
not going to show up at the polls.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, I do believe with Trump MAGA it is a
movement and because his VP does represent the next generation
JD vance of leadership and is not Remember, Democrats did
something very weird. They had Hillary beaten by Obama Obama
for eight years, and then they tried to kind of
trot out Hillary as the you know, the plan B
(11:28):
the second option here. Oh, but she should be the president. Now.
There was I know, she was Obama secretary of State,
which didn't go so well. Go check out what happened
in Megazi, among other things. But there was no oh,
she's being you know, prepared, She's the success There was
no sense that she was Obama's successor within obamasm if
(11:48):
you will. It wasn't like he was. She was, Oh,
I'm a part of the Obama movement. She's like, I'm
a famous politician because my husband was a famous politician,
and now it's my turn. And it didn't play very well.
I think with JD. And also with an number of
people who are just going to be powerful going forward
in the Republican Party who are of the younger generation.
The narrative arc is they were there with Trump and
(12:09):
they honed their skills. You know, his tutelage is what
will allow them to take it going forward. So I
think there's a little bit of a better shot. There,
no doubt.
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Speaker 1 (14:14):
Probably my favorite app. I'd still like to see the
after the iHeart App, excuse me, the iHeart App number one,
But I like the TikTok. I would still like to
see the hidden burned, potentially never to be found again.
Buck learning TikTok dances by himself and his those those
had been buried with all the vaccine data from COVID too.
(14:34):
They're never going to be seen day. This is just
breaking news.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
New York Times reports, We've been talking a lot about
what the future of TikTok was going to be. Trump
gave them a reprieve from what was supposed to be
the shutdown soon after his election. Amazon Amazon Jeff Bezos.
Is Amazon just living down the street. Bezos with his
multi one hundred million dollar manch.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
He does have more than one house from what I understand,
I guess he does now I believe home base.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And I think he grew up in Miami. Right did
he grow up? A good question?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think I think Bezos grew up in Miami and
has returned to his homeland. But Amazon has made a
last minute bid to acquire TikTok ahead of the upcoming
April deadline. Now, the talk had been that Oracle, which
is obviously a high tech company that is Larry Ellison's province.
(15:29):
If I remember and remember Larry Ellison's son, this is
all gets very incestuous, is trying right now to buy Paramount,
the CBS company and all of those assets David Ellison
and then now TikTok. Was the expectation that Oracle was
going to buy the this is the American assets, and
now Amazon, which is what two trillion dollar company suddenly
(15:51):
parachutes in.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This could get.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Kind of interesting. I think there's been a tremendous upside
from whatever day trading you're doing. You know, more than
the CNBC anchors or whatever that I want about this stuff,
like you could be I mean, you do this show,
you a sports show.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I will actually do one of those shows with like
the stock ticker at the bottom. I love I love
media companies, businesses, everything else. I feel like I kind
of know them, and uh, this is gonna be super
interesting to see exactly how all of this is going
to play out. Because Bezos has cozied up to Trump
(16:25):
in a pretty significant way. In fact, Trump told me
when I was on Air Force one with him that
he really liked Bezos, that he was a good guy.
Is the play all along from Bezos? Hey, we're gonna
swoop in at the last minute, try to get TikTok?
Does he see something that Oracle's doing? How does all
of this play out? You love TikTok? I mean, if
you my boys love YouTube and TikTok. That's where they
(16:47):
spend their time. My kids.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, I was just I was out with a friend,
Kery and I were out with a couple that are
good friends of ours and they had their their ten
year old and I told Clay this, and for a
moment there we're sitting We're watching the Miami the Open tennis,
you know, uh, because I love tennis, as you know,
and we're watching it and the ten year old sitting
next to me one side carries on the other end.
I look at him and I go, you know, hey,
(17:08):
you know, I ask, have you seen the movies that
I when I was ten years old, I could recite
every line from Back to the Future, right, I mean,
there were just some of these. He hasn't seen any
of them. And then I was like, well, what do
you what TV shows do you like?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And I grew up.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I was watching obviously ThunderCats, right, ThunderCats, Amazing ThunderCats ho
uh and and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and all this stuff.
G I Joe, G I Joe, G I Joe back
when you know, patriotism and kicking ass were considered fine
for Americans. Uh, Clay, he hasn't seen any of them.
And there's no shows that he watches, you know what
he watches YouTube And mister Beast, I told I.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Was just like what I told you.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I played in that charity uh a poker tournament with
Ted Cruz. Mister Beast was there. My kids were more
impressed that I met mister Beast than anybody that I've
ever met. Sports politics, they met, they met the President.
They were more impressed that I knew mister Beast even
bearded Ted Cruz.
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motion collapse and infighting of the Democrat Party for a second,
shall we. This is This is like the dessert section
(19:05):
of this hour. This is where we just get to
have a little bit of fun. I told you already
Wisconsin didn't win that Supreme Court State Supreme Court seat.
A little disappointing, but we knew it was gonna be
very tough. Off cycle. Democrats get their crazies out in
the off cycle. We got to work more on this. Okay,
we did win those Republican congressional seats in Florida, though,
so that was the most well maybe we'll say we'll
(19:26):
say it's even okay, it's like they get two congressional
seats in Wisconsin. We probably lost, but we kept two
in the Florida. Maybe Wisconsin was a little more important. Whatever.
Let's talk about Democrats and how they hate each other. Well,
first off, they're upset the newest the newest rating for
Democrats in Congress specifically, here's CNN's version. Here's CNN's bootleg
(19:48):
Ryan Grdusky Harry Enton, who is telling everybody, listen to
what the congressional rating is for Democrats. Now play three.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Holy Toledo voters' views of the Democrats and Congress. Among
all voters, disapproved sixty eight percent. And look at the
approved number just twenty one percent, even lower than the
Democratic Party at large.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
This is the lowest on record.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
For Democrats, according to Quinnipiac University polling.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You think these.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Numbers have been let's go to this side of the screen.
We'll look how Democratic voters feel. Get this, the plurality
of democratic voters disapprove of Democrats in Congress at forty
nine percent and just forty percent approve.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Oh my goodness, gracious, you just can't get worse than
these numbers.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Democrats are about as popular as stubbing your toe. So
the nail comes off. It's pretty rough, right now.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, Look, and they're going to try to take momentum
from the special elections, as we started off this show
talking about the fact that Trump won those districts, the
first and the sixth by thirty five ish points in
the twenty twenty four election. But what you really have
to dive into is turnout, and turnout was and is
(21:00):
on these special elections a fraction of how many people
show up for presidential elections and how many people show
up for midterms. To be frank, and the real challenge
here is Democrats can be wildly unpopular, and that's what
happens when you take a lot of positions that are
in fact wildly unpopular. But the problem for the House
is there's only around twenty five seats that are actually
(21:25):
swingable at this point. Both parties have done such a
job jerrymandering the states that they control that there aren't
very many toss up seats, so I think the likelihood
of either party being able to win more than four
or five in any direction is actually highly, highly unlikely.
And again I said, I think Democrats are going to
(21:49):
lose Senate seats.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I think, wasn't it Maureen Dowd just put out a
column that the Democrat Party is in a coma. I
think that was the title, which feels pretty apt that
we've been saying something very similar here, because it is,
and they know it, and they're trying to figure out
what to do because, like any party that is overtaken
by radicals, moderation isn't really possible for them right now,
(22:11):
because moderation would mean expelling the twenty percent ideologically who
have been calling the shots and making demands. This is
like the trans stuff, This is like the open borders,
we are one world, let all the illegals in stuff,
I mean, really unpopular nationally policies. Twenty percent of Democrats
(22:32):
aren't just for it, they are all in on it
and would feel betrayed unless you continue to push for that.
So that's one thing I think is really interesting. There's
also the infighting that's going on. With who's going to
be in charge of the Democrat Party going forward. I
just saw this, Clay, I thought this was really interesting.
NBC political reporter Jonathan Allen here claiming that Obama worked
(22:54):
behind the scenes to derail Kamala. Yeah, in twenty twenty four, this.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
President Obama absolutely did not think that Joe Biden should continue,
according to our sources close to President Obama, and he
also didn't want Kamala Harris to be the replacement for Biden.
He didn't think that she was the best choice for Democrats,
and he worked really behind the scenes for a long
time to try to have a mini primary or an
open convention, or many primary leading to an open convention.
(23:23):
Did not have faith in her ability to win the election.
So and as it turned out, she didn't win, but
he was really working against her.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Two things, Clay, One, do you buy this too? Do
you think Obama's meddling might have actually helped Trump substantially
because of the behind the scenes shenanigans to undermine Kamala
when she was supposed to ascend.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So I have thought for a long time that basically
Barack Obama ghost wrote George Clooney's op ed in the
New York Times. And I think the New York Times
editorial board knows it too, because just think about this.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Why would they really feature George.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Clooney and his political opinion as some incredibly important statement.
George Clooney has never been a politician. He's never been,
to my knowledge, a particularly perceptive figure in Democrat politics.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Trump and I agree, he's not even a very good act.
You and Trump and I aligned on this one big time.
You and Trump don't even think he's a movie star
in any way. I think all I think that that
George Klooney's op ed was one hundred percent ghost written
by Barack Obama. But but here's the thing Obama is not.
This actually lines up for me in so many ways.
(24:37):
Obama is not a tactician of politics beyond pushing himself
and you know, thinking that he's God. Basically, he is
not a political strategist of any people whatsoever, based on
what the Democrat Party I think descended into under his
tenure for eight years, remember led to Trump. He made
(24:58):
fun of Trump at that. Yeah, and Trump then became president.
Like you think about the Obama story, arc he was
good at getting himself elected. He was not good at
leading a party. Remember, people say, oh, Obamacare, there are
a few things that have Obama came in after a
recession that was actually decades in the making. It's a
whole other story. We would have time to get into
(25:19):
it now. But didn't get anything done on immigration, didn't
get anything done on climate change, which were the two
other primary issues that he wanted to work on. But
also what was his plan bringing this into this conversation
about Kamala derailing Kamala?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Who was the better option you wanted to That's the
thing on the George Clooney op ed he wanted a
many primary.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But but you think about who would have been in
that part. It would have been Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsome, like,
think of me.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Do you know who was mentioned that you've said could
rise up as the twenty twenty eight candidate, Wes Moore.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Wes Moore, Yeah, I George George.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Clooney specifically mentioned him there, I think too. So I
think you're right about the crazy town perspectives that so
many Democrats have adopted if they have a history, and remember,
in particular, Kamala got raked over the coals, as she
should have for saying I support transgender surgeries for legal immigrants.
(26:14):
That's why I think that the Democrats are going to
have to find someone like Trump who is a non
traditional candidate that doesn't have crazy town opinions that are
public remember, that can recalibrate and redefine the entire party.
The first time that I took note of Trump as
a candidate was when he said the Iraq War was
(26:36):
a disaster.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Basically I'm paraphrasing him.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Nobody else at that point in time was willing to
criticize the decision to go to the Iraq War because
so many Republican politicians supported it. Trump wasn't a Republican
politician at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It wasn't even just Republicans, it was Democrats too, which
was including Hillary Clinton. I was going to say, a
big part of why Hillary was able to, oh sorry,
Obama was able to outflank Hillary was a Obama was like, look,
you voted for that disaster, that's right, and Hillary was,
you know, Hillary, So she wasn't exactly great at ingratiating herself.
The party has to be blown up, I think in
the Democrats. Well, this is on the breakfast club, very
(27:13):
very a popular show on in the mornings on iHeart,
Charlemagne spoke about how he thinks. And this is a
guy with a big audience. A lot of Democrats listen
to him. The Democrat, you know, top candidates and Kamala
and everybody you know, they go on this show, and
mister the God was saying that everybody needs to be
primaried and thrown out of office in the Democrat leadership.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Now play four who was supposed to be the leaders Well,
in Congress you've got two people. The first one is
this guy, House Minority Leader, Hakim Jeffers.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
In America, we don't have a king, we don't have
a monarch, we don't have a dictator.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Yeah, I'm not feeling too inspired by business casual Morpheus.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Okay, and pay.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
Leth, Obama's counterpart in the Senate, he's somehow even less inspiring.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
It's going to affect beer.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Most of it Corona here comes from Mexico. It's going
to affect your guac because what is guacamole?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Native avocados?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Shuma is not the.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Man would have planned to fight Trump, heed, the man
would have planned for a good single to MYO, it's
not my job to say that any particular candidates need
to be primaried and thrown out of office, but Hakeem
Jeffries and Chuck Schuman need to be primaried and thrown
out of office.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I mean, I think he's right in so far as
the party needs a total shakeup. I agree with his assessment.
This is what you know that there's some that you
know that there's a lot of truth being thrown around
when people who have been fighters on the right for
a long time are saying the same things about the
Democrat Party that honest Democrats are saying about the Democrat Party,
which is what's going on right now. They need new leadership.
(28:49):
Chuck Schumer is not going anywhere though because of the
purse strings. He's a huge fundraising operation. Hakeem Jeffries, I
don't think he's actually going to stay in Democrat leadershi
for very long. But I keep they're so much of
the Democrat hopes and dreams rest on AOC's shoulders right now.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I think that he's right about Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer.
Neither one of them have any particular vision to be
able to not only tell Democrats where they should go,
but really point out where Trump is.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Rung, Schumer is there. Mitch McConnell, he's just a fundraising
per strings institution in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I think he'll be gone in twenty twenty eight when
his I think he'll say, hey, I'm not going to
run again, We'll have a new leadership. I think he's
going to be in real trouble if I'm right and
they lose seats in twenty twenty six, because then it's
hard to make up as many seats as they would
need to make up to take back control of the Senate.
He wouldn't have any possibility of getting to the majority.
(29:47):
But this is where I think Gavin Newsom, as much
as I think he is an unabashed liar, even by
political politician standards, Gavin Newsom is a real liar. Gavin Newsom,
I think, recognizes that the Democrat Party has lost in
the wilderness in a way that many others are not
(30:07):
willing to admit, and he's trying to lead them out
of the wilderness, including this ridiculous perspective where he's finally
decided to take on the idea that men should be
able to compete in women's sports. He called it completely unfair.
Now he's previously said the exact opposite of that, and
I think it leaves him vulnerable. But Democrats don't care.
(30:29):
They will nominate him. I think the question is if
he were the nominee, would he be able to be
defined in a way like Kamala was. I think he's
a more sophisticated, better speaker than Kamala is, better than Schumer,
better than Hakeem Jefferies. I think you're right about AOC
and I think that she would, unfortunately for her, get
(30:52):
exposed because I don't know that she's got a lot
of depth, but I think she does understand narrative cycle.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I also believe that there is a frustration again the
Democrats who know how to win elections in different districts
and states, who you know, the Democrat consultants who get
paid the big bucks to swindle just enough of the
voters that the the Democrat who's from Wisconsin or Michigan
or Pennsylvania's like I'm a I'm a Maverick Democrat, right,
(31:19):
like that stuff. They can't rely on the abortion issue
the way that they were planning on it. I remember
there were people who were saying if Roe v Wade's
overturned Republicans will never win another election. Yes, if Roe v.
Wade's overturned Republicans are going to get be And now
I knew that wasn't true. And that first election, that
first midterm. Afterwards, you know, there was the the sort
(31:42):
of the some of the Jan six hangover stuff with
the insurrection, and then there was in the states I
think there were they're able to basically just lie to
people and say abortion is going to be illegal in
you know, New Mexico, or in abortion is going to
be illegal in New York or so it's never gonna happen.
They're not going to change anything, and so that shoe
is off the table for them as a major nationwide
(32:04):
mobilization because anybody who's up for grabs gonna say, look,
I know what the deal is in my state. I
know what the law is in my state. And that's
that's where it is, like they're not So what really
are the Democrats going to run on. I'm telling you
they're gonna pivot big time to class warfare stuff and healthcare.
And I think that's really interesting because how does their
(32:25):
pivots to healthcare in advance of the midterms play in
with the whole conversation that's going to be happening around
Luigi Mangioni, the healthcare Assassin's allegedly right. It's very good
because they're going to try to be like, oh, we're
the ones that care about people and everything else, and
there's gonna be lunatic left wing Democrats who are out
there saying we love Luigi as they have been.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I think they're going to.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Try to run the abortion playbook again in twenty six
and I think it's going to fail. This is my
thought because the average person they oversold fear. I think
to a lot of people out there, the reality is
if you live in a left wing state, abortion is
very prominent and easy to get. If you live in
a right wing state, it's more difficult, but you can
still travel to other states.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I don't think the.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Average mom and grandma of fourteen and fifteen year old
girls that might have bought in in twenty twenty two
and clearly did to the idea that Republicans are going
to be dragging your daughters or granddaughters by their hair
all the fear campaign.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
They were able to pull it one time, and now
that and it did not affect this presidential election. Nobody
was talking about abortion in a way that except for
that lady who's like, I'm a political analyst.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Look, and they tried aggressively buck Remember the police officer
dragging the woman out of the car, Like, try, it
didn't work, and I think it's not going to work
in twenty six again.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Look.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
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you are a fan of my Atlanta Braves WHI chef
started off the season zero to six, not ideal. NBA
headed to the playoffs and coming up this weekend the
Final four. You got Duke, you got going up against Houston,
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Quick Turn. Couple of stories again that we will discuss
tariffs being announced in detail later today by President and Trump.
And also Nashville school shooter covenant manifesto writings out final report.
(35:20):
We'll hit some of that. A couple of great emails, Allison,
love what you do, but you're both slacking on Elon
and Tesla. You both need to go out by at
least two cyber trucks, post videos. It's the least all
wealthy conservatives can do, especially if you make a living
talking about politics.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Ps.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Clay is blinded by boobs Sidney Sweeney does not have
the face for snow white.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Allie taking multiple shots.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Here, Allison, You're totally wrong. I don't love the cyber truck.
The suv I'm very intrigued by. I just don't really
like the look of the cyber truck personally. Like the
look of Sidney Sweeney. I think she would have made
a billion dollars buck According to Holly, your new picture's awesome.
Proud of you for getting in shape. Prayers for you
and Carrie for a safe delivery of the baby. Thanks
(36:06):
to you and Clay for being my daytime dose of sanity, humor,
crazy times. One week from today. Yeah you with Theoretically
we couldn't come sooner, but you will be a dad.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, it's very exciting stuff carry and I. We got
the strollers and bassinettes and I don't even know what
these things are called, all kinds of baby paraphernalia all
over the house, which we're very excited about. And the
good news is it'll be easier for me to move
up and down the stairs with it, because yeah, I've
primmed down quite a bit thanks to Dan Anderson, my trainer,
for getting that going. And yeah, it's been fantastic. So
(36:41):
we're gonna come back in here. We got more stories
for you, and more vip emails and talkbacks. Oh my, oh,
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