April 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show begins with the announcement that Buck Sexton will return to the show tomorrow after the birth of his baby boy, James. The hosts share that pictures of the newborn are available on their social media accounts and website.
The hour covers several significant topics, starting with the visit of the President of El Salvador to the White House and the Ohio State University football team's visit to celebrate their national championship. Clay Travis discusses the stock market's performance, noting that it has remained stable since September 2024, with a 6.25% increase over the past year.
A major focus is the alarming incident involving Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, whose mansion was nearly burned down by an intruder. Clay emphasizes the failure of security and the increasing danger faced by public officials. He connects this to broader societal issues, including the glorification of criminals and the inability to distinguish between good and evil. This is highlighted by Taylor Lorenz's controversial comments on CNN, defending Luigi Mangione, the accused murderer of a healthcare executive, as a "morally good man."
The hosts also discuss the reduction of bond for the alleged killer in the Texas high school stabbing case, expressing concern over the judicial system's handling of violent crimes. Clay argues that the inability to distinguish between good and evil is a significant problem in America.
On a positive note, Clay praises Bill Maher for meeting with Donald Trump and sharing his experience on HBO. Maher describes Trump as gracious, measured, and possessing a good sense of humor, challenging the negative caricature often portrayed in the media.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, I'm back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Good
news right off the top if you missed it in
the first hour. Right now, Bucks scheduled to be back
with me tomorrow. They have had their baby boy. Mom
and baby are doing well. James Sexton is a qudiepie,
I can say objectively. And the pictures are up am
(00:24):
I correct team in New York. The pictures are up
at Clayanbuck dot com. They're also up on Bucks' social
media accounts and they have been shared by the Clay
and Buck social media accounts. So if you were active
on social media, encourage you to go check those out.
You can also, if you are not active on social media,
go to Clayandbuck dot com and you will be able
(00:46):
to see them there as well. We have been following
a lot of different news stories underway right now. President
of El Salvador visiting right now the White House. I
believe the Ohio State University football team also is visiting
the White House to celebrate their national championship, So that
(01:08):
is underway as well, and I would imagine we'll have
some fun there. One serious conversation we just played the
Stephen Miller and Marco Rubio response to CNN questions, we
will continue to run on anything having to be said
in those Oval Office meetings and the rapid process by
(01:31):
which the courts are trying to discover what they are
going to require when it comes to immigration policy from
the President. Last week we were Fox Business and CNBC
all rolled into one. Stock market closed strong and is
up so far on Monday a small amount. And for
(01:52):
those of you out there, I will continue to say
this who have decided to get obsessed by the stock market,
we are roughly at the exact same same price that
stocks were in September of twenty twenty four. So I've
been saying this for some time. If you did not
feel incredibly poor in September of twenty twenty four, wasn't
(02:14):
that long ago. If you did not feel incredibly poor
in September of twenty twenty four, why would you feel
incredibly poor in April? Stock prices are the exact same
And in the past year, stock prices are up right
at six percent presently six point twenty five percent in
(02:35):
the past year. Why do I bring that up? The
average return of the stock market in a year is
eight or nine percent, So basically in the past year,
stocks have done almost what stocks historically do on average.
So that is the latest there. Now I want to
hammer this because I do think this is a big story,
(02:58):
and we are actually very confident and consistent in the
way that we talk about everything surrounding these violent acts.
Last week I came on with you and I told you,
I guess it was two weeks ago. I came on
and I told you, Hey, I was at the president's
(03:20):
golf course in West Palm Beach, and it is a
level of negligence that I found to be incomprehensible that
he was nearly killed on the sixth hole of that
golf course.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
They let a would be assassin sit.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
For all day, and they only caught him at basically
the last possible moment before he would have been able
to kill the president. This came on the heels of
the Butler Pennsylvania attempt to kill the President, which came
within a quarter inch of succeeding. And now we have
(04:00):
of the governor of Pennsylvania while his family was home
in the house, nearly having his house burned down with
his entire family inside of it. And a lot of
people are going to focus on the motivations of the
crazy guy, and the motivations don't particularly appear to be logical,
(04:23):
as is often the case for crazy people, and leaving
aside what the motivations are, if you try to burn
down someone's home, it seems to me quite clear that
you are not a fan of the person living inside
the home, much as if you try to blow someone's
head off.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I don't need to.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Hear, Oh, we're not sure about what his political allegiances
might be. I think it's pretty clear that you're not
a fan of the person that you're trying to kill.
So how in the world are we allowing people in
politics to be put in this much peril, regardless of
(05:03):
what their political party is. This should be a major,
unbelievable embarrassment for the state of Pennsylvania that your governor
and his family could have nearly been burned to death,
and that someone could make it inside of the physical
(05:25):
residence and not have been captured while doing so. I
am I was stunned when I saw this story because
I couldn't believe that we would have a situation where
someone would be able to even do this. How are
(05:46):
we failing to protect people in positions of prominence all
over this country, regardless of what political party they're in.
This is frankly unacceptable. And if you remember Buck and
Eye talking about this on the program in the wake
of Butler, and then in the wake of the attempted
assassination at the golf course as well. Remember the guy
(06:08):
at the golf course got away, just like this guy
who tried to burn down the Governor's mansion. But the
guy at the West Palm Beach golf course got into
a car, drove away, and they found him an hour later,
only because a woman in the parking lot wrote down
his license plate as he was fleeing. So we were
(06:29):
close to a situation in West Palm Beach, even one
month after what happened on July thirteenth, where the president
could have been assassinated and his assassin could have gotten away.
And that just happened in Pennsylvania. How much of the
president being safe was just a lot of people thinking
(06:50):
the Secret Service was far more comfident than they were.
And how in the world can this situation in Pennsylvania
have been allowed to happen. I just I saw this
story and I flat out could not believe that we
could have ever reached a situation where a governor's house
(07:11):
could be burned down basically and the guy could get away.
And here is the governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, reacting
and saying what I think is actually one hundred percent true.
Who cares where it's coming from. There's a profound moral
sickness that's going on that this is happening at all,
(07:32):
regardless of Democrat, Republican or independent Cut twenty one.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
This type of violence is not okay. This kind of
violence is becoming far too common in our society, and
I don't give a damn if it's coming from one
particular side or the other, directed it one particular party
or another, or one particular person or another. It is
(07:57):
not okay, and it has to stop.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We have to be better than this. Amen.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think he is one hundred percent right and this
should not be allowed to happen, and the fact that
it did. If I'm a Pennsylvanian, heck, I'm not a Pennsylvanian,
And I want to know how in the world was
your governor put in this kind of peril? And you ask, okay,
how does this happen? One reason why on this program
we try to avoid sharing the name of mass shooters
(08:27):
is because the data reflects that people who do this
are trying to become famous, and that the worst thing
you can do we unfortunately have not learned the lesson
of Columbine still yet is make these people famous because
they're demented, and many of them are trying to compete
to kill as many people as possible in an idea
(08:51):
of bathing in the infamy of the media coverage that
will follow. And this has happened with the killer in
New York's city of the United Healthcare CEO. And this
is a former Washington Post reporter on CNN saying, this
guy seems morally good the killer, which is hard to find.
(09:16):
I saw these two stories and I saw them directly
connected in my mind. You try to burn down the
Pennsylvania governor's mansion, He asks, how in the world is
this happening? Well, one idea, how about we've lost the
ability to distinguish between good and evil in this country,
whether it's Israel getting attacked on October seventh, and a
lot of Americans, particularly young people, saying, oh, Israel's actually
(09:38):
the bad guy, or on the streets of New York
City in Manhattan. A cold blooded killer is now a
hero to some, including CNN, which aired this interview as
part of their misinformation investigation. Listen to cut nineteen.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
To see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their
pearls about someone standing a murderer when this is this
is the United States of America. As if we don't
lionize criminals, as if we don't have you know, we
don't stand murderers of all sorts, and we give them
Netflix shows. There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and
(10:16):
angles of mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels.
And you see that in moments like this. So you're
gonna see women especially that feel like, oh my god, right, Like,
here's this man, who who's the revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome,
who's young, who's smart, He's a person that seems as
like this morally good man, which is hard to find.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
A morally good man, which is hard to find on CNN.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He killed an innocent dad and husband in cold blood
on a street in New York City. Team, can you
grab that little cut at the end and save that
because I want to play it again.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
When you lose the ability to distinguish between good and evil.
This is something big picture that troubles me tremendously in
the country right now.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
When you lose the.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Ability to distinguish between good and evil, you're a country
that it is incredible danger. And I'm not talking about
good or evil as Hey, what should the top tax
rate be in America? Should it be thirty nine point
six percent or twenty six point eight percent. That's not
(11:40):
a good or evil argument, Teriff rates is not a
good or evil argument. The guy who committed cold blood
on the street is morally a good person. No, I'm sorry.
I think that's a real flaw. But that's how you
(12:01):
get to Butler Pennsylvania and West Palm Beach assassination attempts
of Trump, and that's how you get to firebombing the
governor's mansion in Pennsylvania. We have lost as a society
the ability to distinguish between good and evil, and we've
lost the ability to contextualize. That's how this ties in.
(12:22):
I think as well. The play, the George Clooney play
that I saw demonizing Elon Musk suddenly because you don't
like his politics Oh, he's a hero of the left
when he creates electric vehicles. Oh he wants to help
Trump get elected. Suddenly he's a Nazi. That's not accurate either,
But if you brand somebody as a Nazi, you create
(12:46):
a situation where people think they're going to be heroes
if they kill them. It's an inability to distinguish between
good and evil, and it's putting many people out there,
good people, honest people all over the country in a
perilous situation that they shouldn't be in. And it comes
(13:07):
from I believe, and in a bill I see it
directly connected to October seventh. Young people in this country
I think, for many reasons have lost the ability to
distinguish between good and evil. And CNN airing that good
man's hard to find and he seems morally pretty good. No,
(13:29):
I actually think there's a lot of guys who wouldn't
stand outside on the street corner and kill an innocent person,
shoot him in the back. I think that there's probably
a lot of guys out there that are seeingle that
pretty good guys that would manage not to.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Commit murder on a street corner.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
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Speaker 2 (13:56):
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Speaker 1 (15:25):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking
about the alionization of killers, the inability to tell the
difference between good and evil, and why I believe it's
helping to motivate what is clearly an increase in assassination
attempts of public officials, clearly Trump, but also Pennsylvania Governor
(15:46):
Josh Shapiro. And I just want to play that cut
from CNN. They aired this talking about a guy who
killed an innocent dad in cold blood on the streets
of Manhattan. Here is how Taylor the Wrens, formerly of
The Washington Post, helping to create the era in which
we now live, described him.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You're going to see women, especially that feel like, oh
my god, right, Like, here's this man who who's the revolutionary,
who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart. He's a
person that seems as like this morally good man, which
is hard to find.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Morally good man, which is hard to find that is
the world in which we are in, and also not
holding bad guys accountable. As I am talking to you
coming across my twitter feed, we talked a little bit
about the awful situation north of Dallas, Texas, where the
(16:44):
high school kid was stabbed in the heart over a
seating dispute. The judge in that case just reduced the
bond to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from one
million dollars. The killer in that case, alleged killer, is
(17:05):
now going to be let out on house arrest and
be able to only have to wear an ankle monitor.
I'm sorry, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond for
stabbing an innocent high school kid in the heart. You
don't even have to stay in jail. You're gonna get
(17:26):
let out again. An inability to distinguish good and evil
is a big picture issue that is massively dangerous to
this country. We'll talk about that a little bit when
we come back. And I also want to play you
on the positive side, something that reflects being willing to
(17:49):
talk to someone who you might disagree with. I give
credit to Bill Maher on HBO who talked about his
meeting with Donald Trump on his Friday show. Buck has
been on Bill Mahers Show recently. People got mad, remember
at what he said. We will play that for you.
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all of you hanging out with us as we are
(19:04):
rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Wanted to
give credit to Bill Maher for being willing to go
actually meet with President Trump in person. He had a
dinner with Kid Rock at the in the White House
after I believe they went into the Oval Office as well.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And I want to play some of the cuts.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
This is from Bill Maher's HBO show, and I think
what Bill maher is saying here is what many of
you have found in your experience is either listening to
Trump on this program or other programs over the last decade.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I believe the.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Number is that I have been involved in interviewing Trump,
either by myself or with Buck Now eleven times, and
so I feel like I know Trump fairly well at
this point. We've talked to him for hours on this
program during the course of the last four years. And
what Bill maher is saying is what I have found
(20:02):
to be true of Trump in private. He's an incredibly likable,
charismatic guy who frankly feels kind of like a grandpa
when I have been around him. And let's listen to
a couple of these cuts. He also has, and I
think this is important, A pretty good sense of humor.
He's actually very, very funny, and most of his critics
(20:25):
don't get it. Here's Bill Maher saying he showed up
with a list of insults that Trump had called him,
and Trump autographed it for him, which is incredible. Listened
to cut fifteen.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Before I left for the Capitol. I had my staff
collect and print out this list of almost sixteen different
insulting epithets that the President has said about me, things
like stupid, dummy, low life, dummy, sleeves, bag, sick said,
stone cold crazy, really a dumb guy, heard like a dog.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
His show is dead its sixty. I brought this to the.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
White House because I wanted him to sign it, which
he did, which.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
He did with good humor.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
All right, I mean, this is how it should be.
I talked about the Taylor Lorenz. Oh he's a morally
good man. That's not how it should be. How it
should be is people can disagree, sometimes they might even
say mean things, but when they meet face to face
they behave like adults. And most of the time I
(21:40):
have found when you meet someone face to face, you
are more likely to like them, particularly when it's someone
like Donald Trump that is actually very likable. We've said
on this program for a long time. Look, you can
disagree with his policies. I am one hundred percent of
the opinion that you can look at Trump's policies and
you can say I hate the terrify ideas. You can say, hey,
(22:02):
I think we should have free and wide open borders.
You can say police are too empowered, or he's taking
too much executive authority. I don't agree with those arguments,
but I think you can make those arguments and be
a rational, normal human being. What you can't say is
he's Hitler. He's not in any way remotely similar to
(22:23):
Adolf Hitler. Disagree with his policies, attacking him personally is absurd.
And what I have said for some time is, and
I bet what Bill Maher now recognizes. Trump is an
energy person. Whatever energy you give to him, he gives
back to you ten x. So if you are favorable
(22:43):
and kind, he's going to be ten times as favorable
and ten times as kind to you. If you are unfavorable, uncharitable, cruel, mean,
he's going to give that back to you ten x.
Whatever you give Trump gives back ten x. That's the
lesson that everybody should have learned by now, and actually
(23:04):
face to face, he tends to be really good. I've
said this before I met Trump for the first time
in person in October of twenty twenty. I took my
wife and at the time oldest son, who was I
believe in seventh grade. Trump was unbelievable with him, unbelievable
(23:27):
with my seventh grader in the Oval Office the time
he spent with him, he was just a fabulous, grandfatherly
like figure. My wife, like a lot of women, was
not a huge fan of Donald Trump before she met him.
After meeting him in the Oval Office, since she's met
him a couple of times since, she loves him. He
(23:50):
is really incredible face to face one on one, not
only with the people there, but with kids. Really really
good with kids. He's met all of my sons, by
the way, they were more interested in meeting mister Beast
than the President. No offense to the President, but he's
met all of my kids. Fabulous with all of them,
(24:13):
just like a good grandpa would be. And I bet
if you had the good fortune to get to meet
the President and you got to meet him with your
kids or with your grandkids, he would be phenomenal with them,
and this is what Bill Maher is saying. Bill Maher
like kind of built this mountain of Trump as an
awful person based on public persona, and then he had
(24:33):
to go out and tell his audience on Friday, Actually,
we had a phenomenal dinner and Trump was incredible. Here
is Bill Maher on meeting Trump. Cut sixteen.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
He laughs just for starters, he laughs. I've never seen
him laugh in public, but he does including it himself,
and it's not fake. Believe me, as a comedian of
forty years, I know a fake laugh when I hear it. Okay, example,
in the Oval office, he was showing me the portraits
of presidents and he pointed to Reagan and said, in
(25:06):
all seriousness, you know the best thing about.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Him his hair.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
I said, well, there was also that whole bringing down
communism thing. Waiting for the button next to the diet
coke button to get pushed and.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I go through the trap door.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
But no, he laughed.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He has a really good sense of humor. He's also
insanely self aware. Some of you may have seen me
on Fox and Friends over the weekend. I'll take feedback.
By the way, eight hundred two two eight A two.
I'll tell you what my mom said in a moment.
But I said this because we were playing some of
the cuts from the moment. Jimmy Fallon allowed himself to
(25:53):
get bullied for humanizing Trump. Every comedian by and large
was terrified of the general public, and they refuse to
treat Trump like a normal human being. It's actually incredibly
unfortunate because if you go back and watch Trump on
Saturday Night Live, he has a great sense of humor.
(26:14):
I think Trump would have been really good on Jimmy Kimmel.
I think he would have been really good with Fallin.
I think he would have been really good with Stephen
Colbert and on Saturday Night Live, because unlike a lot
of politicians, he actually has a good sense of humor
about himself. And I have made this argument for a
long time on the dictator front. Dictators don't have good
(26:38):
senses of humor because humor requires a knowledge and nuance
of how.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You are seen in the world that is at large.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And that's why dictators require complete obsequiousness. They require that
you basically been the need to them all the time,
that you genuine flecked at their photo that's hanging on
the wall at their portrait, because they have to be
seen as larger than you, more important than you, and
(27:10):
comedy cuts everybody down to size. This is why having
kids important in many ways. I think kids tell.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
You exactly what they think.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Kids and old people, super old people, they are like,
I don't give a heck anymore. Super young kids they
don't have the filters built in to say what they think.
I remember. I mean, there's tons of things that kids
will say. But I remember my three year old got
me good about seven years ago, the youngest at that time.
(27:43):
We were playing. He said, Dad, he said, yeah, said,
you have old hands. I never thought about my hands
in my entire life, holding them up now for you
on video. I was like, what do you mean. He's like,
they're wrinkly, they're like old man hands. And I was like,
I'd never even thought about what my hands looked like before.
I didn't think I was George Costanza hand model. But
(28:06):
my three year old is like, you know, like, hey, Dad,
you know you're not a super young guy anymore. You
got old guy hands. And it's that puncturing, right, And
I'll play you a cut and a little bit of
Trump on Air Force one after he was at the
UFC three fourteen with Kai Trump, his granddaughter. The grandkids
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make fun of him. That's healthy. Yeah, he's the President
of the United States, but he's also grandpa and grandma,
and he and Milania, and so they have normal human interactions.
I don't imagine that Kim Jong un has very many
normal interactions. I frankly don't imagine that Vladimir Putin has
(28:47):
very many normal human interactions. Maybe I'm wrong, but this
is what Bill Maher was getting at here. Also, he
says Trump was gracious and measured, and his audience is
hearing what is the truth. But much like when I
was talking about earlier with George Clooney and the play,
they aren't able to see the larger perspective because many
(29:08):
of them have bought into the idea that he's Hitler.
Listen to cut fourteen.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
He said, you know, I've heard from a lot of
people who really liked that we're having this dinner.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Not all, but a lot.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
And I said same. A lot of people told me
they loved it, but not all, and we agreed. The
people who don't even want us to.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Talk, we don't like you don't talk as opposed to
what writing the same editorial for the millionth time and
making twenty five hour speeches into the wind.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Okay, that's my report. You can hate me for it,
but I'm not a liar. Trump was gracious and measured.
And why he isn't that in other settings I don't know,
and I can't answer, and it's not my place to answer.
I'm just telling you what I saw, and I wasn't high.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's great and that audience. Again, I encourage as many
of these outreaches as Trump can do. I think if
you meet him face to face, the caricature that you
have built in your mind on the left is not
represented by the man that you will meet. I guarantee
you that. And we have a tendency in this world,
(30:19):
and I try to be conscious of it in the
way that I talk to to build twenty foot tall
caricatures of people that are just a few inches deep.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
In other words, when.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You walk up to it, it's like you can punch
through it and it's paper mache. It looks like this
huge statue. Oh my goodness, look at this. This is
twenty feet tall. You can't miss it. And then when
you're actually confronted with it, you realize there's no depth
to it. You can punch right through it, and you
see the real person on the other side. Now, some
(30:55):
people are fake. Many politicians, I would say, are fake
because they're desperate to make you like them. They feel
like if they pretend to be something, that you will
like them. Trump is not that. It's why he wasn't
a professional politician. He is just himself, for better or worse.
(31:18):
And I think the reason why he had so much
more support by twenty twenty four is a lot of
people saw what Bill Maher did, which is that twenty
foot caricature that the legacy media were telling you that
he's Adolf Hitler, that he's got the Hitler mustache, that
he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It's not real.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It wasn't in any way accurate. And meanwhile, the twenty
foot caricature that they tried to create of Joe Biden,
which was incredibly beneficial, when you got up close to it,
you saw that that was all fake too. And I've
said in my new book that I'm writing, I think
this gets to the essence of it. Authenticity ends, cancel culture.
(32:00):
When you are the authentic version of yourself, for better
or worse. You can't be canceled in public anymore because
people are over it now. If you lie, if you
are fake, if you are not honest with your audience,
then you can be canceled. And I'll give you an
(32:22):
example that just as historic. Why did Bill Clinton keep
his job after he had an affair with an intern.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
In the Oval office?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Bill Clinton slept with an intern. Now you can say, Okay,
well that was nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven, it's
a different era, and I.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Think that's true.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But the reason why I think he kept his job
was because, deep down, a lot of people kind of
thought that that was something that Bill Clinton might do.
You didn't really think, oh, this is a guy who's
completely committed to his wife. You didn't think Bill and
Hillary Clinton, this is the greatest couple of our lives.
(33:04):
You kind of thought Bill Clinton not really that much
into Hillary Clinton's probably gonna sleep with somebody else while
he's president. I think if George W. Bush had done,
it might have cost him his job. I think if
Barack Obama had done, it might have cost him his job.
But Bill Clinton, it actually reflected in some way what
(33:25):
we anticipated and believed about him. I think Clinton was
authentically himself. I think Al Gore, who tried to replace him, wasn't.
I think George W. Bush was. Trump is what you
would think he is if you are honest and have
been seeing all of the coverage surrounding him. I think
(33:45):
what Bill Maher experienced, it's what I've experienced, It's what
Buck experienced, It's what most of you would experience. If
you had the opportunity to meet Trump, and if you
took your kids or grandkids to meet Trump too, I'm
telling you you would really like him and he.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Would be fabulous with you.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That, I believe is one reason that he's been so
successful as a politician.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
He's actually just kind of a likable guy.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And if you remember before he got into politics, that
was his reputation.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
A little bit of a bragger, a little bit in
love with himself. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Say that about Trump. I was just playing one of
the West Palm Beach and he had framed that he
was one of the richest people in the world. In
the locker room, all the different paintings and pictures hanging
on the wall. I think a lot of rich people
probably wouldn't frame the magazine cover that called them one
of the richest people in the world and hang it
(34:43):
up in their locker room. But that's Trump, and I
think the reason why he's having so much more success
in this second term is more and more people are
like Bill Maher finding out what the truth is. Look
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We'll take
some of your calls. Third hour of the program. You
know things are getting desperate when ESPN stephen A. Smith
thinks he can rescue the Democrat Party. What's going on there?
What's the significance. We will talk about that when we
come back, and I'll play you some cuts from the
(36:37):
reaction Trump got at UFC three fourteen down in Miami,
which was incredible, and talk about why I think that's
so significant. All of that and more we will break
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They had some ridiculous things to say. We'll play that too,
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(00:46):
to see them there as well. We have been following
a lot of different news stories underway right now. President
of El Salvador visiting right now the White House. I
believe the Ohio State University football team also is visiting
the White House to celebrate their national championship, So that
(01:08):
is underway as well, and I would imagine we'll have
some fun there. One serious conversation we just played the
Stephen Miller and Marco Rubio response to CNN questions, we
will continue to run on anything having to be said
in those Oval Office meetings and the rapid process by
(01:31):
which the courts are trying to discover what they are
going to require when it comes to immigration policy from
the President. Last week we were Fox Business and CNBC
all rolled into one. Stock market closed strong and is
up so far on Monday a small amount. And for
(01:52):
those of you out there, I will continue to say
this who have decided to get obsessed by the stock market,
we are roughly at the exact same same price that
stocks were in September of twenty twenty four. So I've
been saying this for some time. If you did not
feel incredibly poor in September of twenty twenty four, wasn't
(02:14):
that long ago. If you did not feel incredibly poor
in September of twenty twenty four, why would you feel
incredibly poor in April? Stock prices are the exact same
And in the past year, stock prices are up right
at six percent presently six point twenty five percent in
(02:35):
the past year. Why do I bring that up? The
average return of the stock market in a year is
eight or nine percent, So basically in the past year,
stocks have done almost what stocks historically do on average.
So that is the latest there. Now I want to
hammer this because I do think this is a big story,
(02:58):
and we are actually very confident and consistent in the
way that we talk about everything surrounding these violent acts.
Last week I came on with you and I told you,
I guess it was two weeks ago. I came on
and I told you, Hey, I was at the president's
(03:20):
golf course in West Palm Beach, and it is a
level of negligence that I found to be incomprehensible that
he was nearly killed on the sixth hole of that
golf course.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
They let a would be assassin sit.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
For all day, and they only caught him at basically
the last possible moment before he would have been able
to kill the president. This came on the heels of
the Butler Pennsylvania attempt to kill the President, which came
within a quarter inch of succeeding. And now we have
(04:00):
of the governor of Pennsylvania while his family was home
in the house, nearly having his house burned down with
his entire family inside of it. And a lot of
people are going to focus on the motivations of the
crazy guy, and the motivations don't particularly appear to be logical,
(04:23):
as is often the case for crazy people, and leaving
aside what the motivations are, if you try to burn
down someone's home, it seems to me quite clear that
you are not a fan of the person living inside
the home, much as if you try to blow someone's
head off.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I don't need to.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Hear, Oh, we're not sure about what his political allegiances
might be. I think it's pretty clear that you're not
a fan of the person that you're trying to kill.
So how in the world are we allowing people in
politics to be put in this much peril, regardless of
(05:03):
what their political party is. This should be a major,
unbelievable embarrassment for the state of Pennsylvania that your governor
and his family could have nearly been burned to death,
and that someone could make it inside of the physical
(05:25):
residence and not have been captured while doing so. I
am I was stunned when I saw this story because
I couldn't believe that we would have a situation where
someone would be able to even do this. How are
(05:46):
we failing to protect people in positions of prominence all
over this country, regardless of what political party they're in.
This is frankly unacceptable. And if you remember Buck and
Eye talking about this on the program in the wake
of Butler, and then in the wake of the attempted
assassination at the golf course as well. Remember the guy
(06:08):
at the golf course got away, just like this guy
who tried to burn down the Governor's mansion. But the
guy at the West Palm Beach golf course got into
a car, drove away, and they found him an hour later,
only because a woman in the parking lot wrote down
his license plate as he was fleeing. So we were
(06:29):
close to a situation in West Palm Beach, even one
month after what happened on July thirteenth, where the president
could have been assassinated and his assassin could have gotten away.
And that just happened in Pennsylvania. How much of the
president being safe was just a lot of people thinking
(06:50):
the Secret Service was far more comfident than they were.
And how in the world can this situation in Pennsylvania
have been allowed to happen. I just I saw this
story and I flat out could not believe that we
could have ever reached a situation where a governor's house
(07:11):
could be burned down basically and the guy could get away.
And here is the governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, reacting
and saying what I think is actually one hundred percent true.
Who cares where it's coming from. There's a profound moral
sickness that's going on that this is happening at all,
(07:32):
regardless of Democrat, Republican or independent Cut twenty one.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
This type of violence is not okay. This kind of
violence is becoming far too common in our society, and
I don't give a damn if it's coming from one
particular side or the other, directed it one particular party
or another, or one particular person or another. It is
(07:57):
not okay, and it has to stop.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We have to be better than this. Amen.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think he is one hundred percent right and this
should not be allowed to happen, and the fact that
it did. If I'm a Pennsylvanian, heck, I'm not a Pennsylvanian,
And I want to know how in the world was
your governor put in this kind of peril? And you ask, okay,
how does this happen? One reason why on this program
we try to avoid sharing the name of mass shooters
(08:27):
is because the data reflects that people who do this
are trying to become famous, and that the worst thing
you can do we unfortunately have not learned the lesson
of Columbine still yet is make these people famous because
they're demented, and many of them are trying to compete
to kill as many people as possible in an idea
(08:51):
of bathing in the infamy of the media coverage that
will follow. And this has happened with the killer in
New York's city of the United Healthcare CEO. And this
is a former Washington Post reporter on CNN saying, this
guy seems morally good the killer, which is hard to find.
(09:16):
I saw these two stories and I saw them directly
connected in my mind. You try to burn down the
Pennsylvania governor's mansion, He asks, how in the world is
this happening? Well, one idea, how about we've lost the
ability to distinguish between good and evil in this country,
whether it's Israel getting attacked on October seventh, and a
lot of Americans, particularly young people, saying, oh, Israel's actually
(09:38):
the bad guy, or on the streets of New York
City in Manhattan. A cold blooded killer is now a
hero to some, including CNN, which aired this interview as
part of their misinformation investigation. Listen to cut nineteen.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
To see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their
pearls about someone standing a murderer when this is this
is the United States of America. As if we don't
lionize criminals, as if we don't have you know, we
don't stand murderers of all sorts, and we give them
Netflix shows. There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and
(10:16):
angles of mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels.
And you see that in moments like this. So you're
gonna see women especially that feel like, oh my god, right, Like,
here's this man, who who's the revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome,
who's young, who's smart, He's a person that seems as
like this morally good man, which is hard to find.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
A morally good man, which is hard to find on CNN.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He killed an innocent dad and husband in cold blood
on a street in New York City. Team, can you
grab that little cut at the end and save that
because I want to play it again.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
When you lose the ability to distinguish between good and evil.
This is something big picture that troubles me tremendously in
the country right now.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
When you lose the.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Ability to distinguish between good and evil, you're a country
that it is incredible danger. And I'm not talking about
good or evil as Hey, what should the top tax
rate be in America? Should it be thirty nine point
six percent or twenty six point eight percent. That's not
(11:40):
a good or evil argument, Teriff rates is not a
good or evil argument. The guy who committed cold blood
on the street is morally a good person. No, I'm sorry.
I think that's a real flaw. But that's how you
(12:01):
get to Butler Pennsylvania and West Palm Beach assassination attempts
of Trump, and that's how you get to firebombing the
governor's mansion in Pennsylvania. We have lost as a society
the ability to distinguish between good and evil, and we've
lost the ability to contextualize. That's how this ties in.
(12:22):
I think as well. The play, the George Clooney play
that I saw demonizing Elon Musk suddenly because you don't
like his politics Oh, he's a hero of the left
when he creates electric vehicles. Oh he wants to help
Trump get elected. Suddenly he's a Nazi. That's not accurate either,
But if you brand somebody as a Nazi, you create
(12:46):
a situation where people think they're going to be heroes
if they kill them. It's an inability to distinguish between
good and evil, and it's putting many people out there,
good people, honest people all over the country in a
perilous situation that they shouldn't be in. And it comes
(13:07):
from I believe, and in a bill I see it
directly connected to October seventh. Young people in this country
I think, for many reasons have lost the ability to
distinguish between good and evil. And CNN airing that good
man's hard to find and he seems morally pretty good. No,
(13:29):
I actually think there's a lot of guys who wouldn't
stand outside on the street corner and kill an innocent person,
shoot him in the back. I think that there's probably
a lot of guys out there that are seeingle that
pretty good guys that would manage not to.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Commit murder on a street corner.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Let you react to it in the meantime, Look, everybody
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Speaker 1 (15:25):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking
about the alionization of killers, the inability to tell the
difference between good and evil, and why I believe it's
helping to motivate what is clearly an increase in assassination
attempts of public officials, clearly Trump, but also Pennsylvania Governor
(15:46):
Josh Shapiro. And I just want to play that cut
from CNN. They aired this talking about a guy who
killed an innocent dad in cold blood on the streets
of Manhattan. Here is how Taylor the Wrens, formerly of
The Washington Post, helping to create the era in which
we now live, described him.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You're going to see women, especially that feel like, oh
my god, right, Like, here's this man who who's the revolutionary,
who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart. He's a
person that seems as like this morally good man, which
is hard to find.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Morally good man, which is hard to find that is
the world in which we are in, and also not
holding bad guys accountable. As I am talking to you
coming across my twitter feed, we talked a little bit
about the awful situation north of Dallas, Texas, where the
(16:44):
high school kid was stabbed in the heart over a
seating dispute. The judge in that case just reduced the
bond to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from one
million dollars. The killer in that case, alleged killer, is
(17:05):
now going to be let out on house arrest and
be able to only have to wear an ankle monitor.
I'm sorry, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond for
stabbing an innocent high school kid in the heart. You
don't even have to stay in jail. You're gonna get
(17:26):
let out again. An inability to distinguish good and evil
is a big picture issue that is massively dangerous to
this country. We'll talk about that a little bit when
we come back. And I also want to play you
on the positive side, something that reflects being willing to
(17:49):
talk to someone who you might disagree with. I give
credit to Bill Maher on HBO who talked about his
meeting with Donald Trump on his Friday show. Buck has
been on Bill Mahers Show recently. People got mad, remember
at what he said. We will play that for you.
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all of you hanging out with us as we are
(19:04):
rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Wanted to
give credit to Bill Maher for being willing to go
actually meet with President Trump in person. He had a
dinner with Kid Rock at the in the White House
after I believe they went into the Oval Office as well.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And I want to play some of the cuts.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
This is from Bill Maher's HBO show, and I think
what Bill maher is saying here is what many of
you have found in your experience is either listening to
Trump on this program or other programs over the last decade.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I believe the.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Number is that I have been involved in interviewing Trump,
either by myself or with Buck Now eleven times, and
so I feel like I know Trump fairly well at
this point. We've talked to him for hours on this
program during the course of the last four years. And
what Bill maher is saying is what I have found
(20:02):
to be true of Trump in private. He's an incredibly likable,
charismatic guy who frankly feels kind of like a grandpa
when I have been around him. And let's listen to
a couple of these cuts. He also has, and I
think this is important, A pretty good sense of humor.
He's actually very, very funny, and most of his critics
(20:25):
don't get it. Here's Bill Maher saying he showed up
with a list of insults that Trump had called him,
and Trump autographed it for him, which is incredible. Listened
to cut fifteen.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Before I left for the Capitol. I had my staff
collect and print out this list of almost sixteen different
insulting epithets that the President has said about me, things
like stupid, dummy, low life, dummy, sleeves, bag, sick said,
stone cold crazy, really a dumb guy, heard like a dog.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
His show is dead its sixty. I brought this to the.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
White House because I wanted him to sign it, which
he did, which.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
He did with good humor.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
All right, I mean, this is how it should be.
I talked about the Taylor Lorenz. Oh he's a morally
good man. That's not how it should be. How it
should be is people can disagree, sometimes they might even
say mean things, but when they meet face to face
they behave like adults. And most of the time I
(21:40):
have found when you meet someone face to face, you
are more likely to like them, particularly when it's someone
like Donald Trump that is actually very likable. We've said
on this program for a long time. Look, you can
disagree with his policies. I am one hundred percent of
the opinion that you can look at Trump's policies and
you can say I hate the terrify ideas. You can say, hey,
(22:02):
I think we should have free and wide open borders.
You can say police are too empowered, or he's taking
too much executive authority. I don't agree with those arguments,
but I think you can make those arguments and be
a rational, normal human being. What you can't say is
he's Hitler. He's not in any way remotely similar to
(22:23):
Adolf Hitler. Disagree with his policies, attacking him personally is absurd.
And what I have said for some time is, and
I bet what Bill Maher now recognizes. Trump is an
energy person. Whatever energy you give to him, he gives
back to you ten x. So if you are favorable
(22:43):
and kind, he's going to be ten times as favorable
and ten times as kind to you. If you are unfavorable, uncharitable, cruel, mean,
he's going to give that back to you ten x.
Whatever you give Trump gives back ten x. That's the
lesson that everybody should have learned by now, and actually
(23:04):
face to face, he tends to be really good. I've
said this before I met Trump for the first time
in person in October of twenty twenty. I took my
wife and at the time oldest son, who was I
believe in seventh grade. Trump was unbelievable with him, unbelievable
(23:27):
with my seventh grader in the Oval Office the time
he spent with him, he was just a fabulous, grandfatherly
like figure. My wife, like a lot of women, was
not a huge fan of Donald Trump before she met him.
After meeting him in the Oval Office, since she's met
him a couple of times since, she loves him. He
(23:50):
is really incredible face to face one on one, not
only with the people there, but with kids. Really really
good with kids. He's met all of my sons, by
the way, they were more interested in meeting mister Beast
than the President. No offense to the President, but he's
met all of my kids. Fabulous with all of them,
(24:13):
just like a good grandpa would be. And I bet
if you had the good fortune to get to meet
the President and you got to meet him with your
kids or with your grandkids, he would be phenomenal with them,
and this is what Bill Maher is saying. Bill Maher
like kind of built this mountain of Trump as an
awful person based on public persona, and then he had
(24:33):
to go out and tell his audience on Friday, Actually,
we had a phenomenal dinner and Trump was incredible. Here
is Bill Maher on meeting Trump. Cut sixteen.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
He laughs just for starters, he laughs. I've never seen
him laugh in public, but he does including it himself,
and it's not fake. Believe me, as a comedian of
forty years, I know a fake laugh when I hear it. Okay, example,
in the Oval office, he was showing me the portraits
of presidents and he pointed to Reagan and said, in
(25:06):
all seriousness, you know the best thing about.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Him his hair.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
I said, well, there was also that whole bringing down
communism thing. Waiting for the button next to the diet
coke button to get pushed and.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I go through the trap door.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
But no, he laughed.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He has a really good sense of humor. He's also
insanely self aware. Some of you may have seen me
on Fox and Friends over the weekend. I'll take feedback.
By the way, eight hundred two two eight A two.
I'll tell you what my mom said in a moment.
But I said this because we were playing some of
the cuts from the moment. Jimmy Fallon allowed himself to
(25:53):
get bullied for humanizing Trump. Every comedian by and large
was terrified of the general public, and they refuse to
treat Trump like a normal human being. It's actually incredibly
unfortunate because if you go back and watch Trump on
Saturday Night Live, he has a great sense of humor.
(26:14):
I think Trump would have been really good on Jimmy Kimmel.
I think he would have been really good with Fallin.
I think he would have been really good with Stephen
Colbert and on Saturday Night Live, because unlike a lot
of politicians, he actually has a good sense of humor
about himself. And I have made this argument for a
long time on the dictator front. Dictators don't have good
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senses of humor because humor requires a knowledge and nuance
of how.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You are seen in the world that is at large.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And that's why dictators require complete obsequiousness. They require that
you basically been the need to them all the time,
that you genuine flecked at their photo that's hanging on
the wall at their portrait, because they have to be
seen as larger than you, more important than you, and
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comedy cuts everybody down to size. This is why having
kids important in many ways. I think kids tell.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
You exactly what they think.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Kids and old people, super old people, they are like,
I don't give a heck anymore. Super young kids they
don't have the filters built in to say what they think.
I remember. I mean, there's tons of things that kids
will say. But I remember my three year old got
me good about seven years ago, the youngest at that time.
(27:43):
We were playing. He said, Dad, he said, yeah, said,
you have old hands. I never thought about my hands
in my entire life, holding them up now for you
on video. I was like, what do you mean. He's like,
they're wrinkly, they're like old man hands. And I was like,
I'd never even thought about what my hands looked like before.
I didn't think I was George Costanza hand model. But
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my three year old is like, you know, like, hey, Dad,
you know you're not a super young guy anymore. You
got old guy hands. And it's that puncturing, right, And
I'll play you a cut and a little bit of
Trump on Air Force one after he was at the
UFC three fourteen with Kai Trump, his granddaughter. The grandkids
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make fun of him. That's healthy. Yeah, he's the President
of the United States, but he's also grandpa and grandma,
and he and Milania, and so they have normal human interactions.
I don't imagine that Kim Jong un has very many
normal interactions. I frankly don't imagine that Vladimir Putin has
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very many normal human interactions. Maybe I'm wrong, but this
is what Bill Maher was getting at here. Also, he
says Trump was gracious and measured, and his audience is
hearing what is the truth. But much like when I
was talking about earlier with George Clooney and the play,
they aren't able to see the larger perspective because many
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of them have bought into the idea that he's Hitler.
Listen to cut fourteen.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
He said, you know, I've heard from a lot of
people who really liked that we're having this dinner.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Not all, but a lot.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
And I said same. A lot of people told me
they loved it, but not all, and we agreed. The
people who don't even want us to.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Talk, we don't like you don't talk as opposed to
what writing the same editorial for the millionth time and
making twenty five hour speeches into the wind.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Okay, that's my report. You can hate me for it,
but I'm not a liar. Trump was gracious and measured.
And why he isn't that in other settings I don't know,
and I can't answer, and it's not my place to answer.
I'm just telling you what I saw, and I wasn't high.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's great and that audience. Again, I encourage as many
of these outreaches as Trump can do. I think if
you meet him face to face, the caricature that you
have built in your mind on the left is not
represented by the man that you will meet. I guarantee
you that. And we have a tendency in this world,
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and I try to be conscious of it in the
way that I talk to to build twenty foot tall
caricatures of people that are just a few inches deep.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
In other words, when.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You walk up to it, it's like you can punch
through it and it's paper mache. It looks like this
huge statue. Oh my goodness, look at this. This is
twenty feet tall. You can't miss it. And then when
you're actually confronted with it, you realize there's no depth
to it. You can punch right through it, and you
see the real person on the other side. Now, some
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people are fake. Many politicians, I would say, are fake
because they're desperate to make you like them. They feel
like if they pretend to be something, that you will
like them. Trump is not that. It's why he wasn't
a professional politician. He is just himself, for better or worse.
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And I think the reason why he had so much
more support by twenty twenty four is a lot of
people saw what Bill Maher did, which is that twenty
foot caricature that the legacy media were telling you that
he's Adolf Hitler, that he's got the Hitler mustache, that
he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It's not real.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It wasn't in any way accurate. And meanwhile, the twenty
foot caricature that they tried to create of Joe Biden,
which was incredibly beneficial, when you got up close to it,
you saw that that was all fake too. And I've
said in my new book that I'm writing, I think
this gets to the essence of it. Authenticity ends, cancel culture.
(32:00):
When you are the authentic version of yourself, for better
or worse. You can't be canceled in public anymore because
people are over it now. If you lie, if you
are fake, if you are not honest with your audience,
then you can be canceled. And I'll give you an
(32:22):
example that just as historic. Why did Bill Clinton keep
his job after he had an affair with an intern.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
In the Oval office?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Bill Clinton slept with an intern. Now you can say, Okay,
well that was nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven, it's
a different era, and I.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Think that's true.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But the reason why I think he kept his job
was because, deep down, a lot of people kind of
thought that that was something that Bill Clinton might do.
You didn't really think, oh, this is a guy who's
completely committed to his wife. You didn't think Bill and
Hillary Clinton, this is the greatest couple of our lives.
(33:04):
You kind of thought Bill Clinton not really that much
into Hillary Clinton's probably gonna sleep with somebody else while
he's president. I think if George W. Bush had done,
it might have cost him his job. I think if
Barack Obama had done, it might have cost him his job.
But Bill Clinton, it actually reflected in some way what
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we anticipated and believed about him. I think Clinton was
authentically himself. I think Al Gore, who tried to replace him, wasn't.
I think George W. Bush was. Trump is what you
would think he is if you are honest and have
been seeing all of the coverage surrounding him. I think
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what Bill Maher experienced, it's what I've experienced, It's what
Buck experienced, It's what most of you would experience. If
you had the opportunity to meet Trump, and if you
took your kids or grandkids to meet Trump too, I'm
telling you you would really like him and he.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Would be fabulous with you.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That, I believe is one reason that he's been so
successful as a politician.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
He's actually just kind of a likable guy.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And if you remember before he got into politics, that
was his reputation.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
A little bit of a bragger, a little bit in
love with himself. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Say that about Trump. I was just playing one of
the West Palm Beach and he had framed that he
was one of the richest people in the world. In
the locker room, all the different paintings and pictures hanging
on the wall. I think a lot of rich people
probably wouldn't frame the magazine cover that called them one
of the richest people in the world and hang it
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up in their locker room. But that's Trump, and I
think the reason why he's having so much more success
in this second term is more and more people are
like Bill Maher finding out what the truth is. Look
tax filing deadline for the IRS. Good for him for meeting,
Good for Trump for meeting. Thank you to Kid Rock
Dana White for setting it up. I think we need
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reaction Trump got at UFC three fourteen down in Miami,
which was incredible, and talk about why I think that's
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