April 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show begins with a recap of the day's major topics, urging listeners to subscribe to the podcast for uninterrupted access. The hosts delve into the legal troubles of New York Attorney General Letitia James, who is accused of mortgage fraud, including false claims about her primary residence and marital status. This segment highlights the irony of James' aggressive prosecution of Donald Trump for similar allegations, emphasizing the potential legal consequences she faces.
The discussion then shifts to the arson attack on Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's residence. The hosts reveal that the suspect targeted Shapiro due to his support for Israel, linking the attack to antisemitism and political extremism. They stress the importance of severe penalties for such acts and the broader implications of left-wing radicalism.
Another significant topic is the deportation case involving Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged gang member with a history of domestic violence complaints. The hosts criticize the Democrats' focus on Garcia's case, arguing that it reflects a disconnect with the concerns of average Americans. They analyze the legal complexities and political motivations behind the judge's decision to hold Trump in contempt over the deportation.
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck draw parallels to historical and cultural references, including the civil rights movement and popular TV shows like "The Wire." They use these analogies to illustrate broader themes of political corruption, legal hypocrisy, and the weaponization of law.
The hour concludes with a lighthearted discussion about a viral clip from an Atlanta Braves game, where a sideline reporter asks a fan for her phone number. The hosts defend the reporter's actions against criticism from the sports media, emphasizing the importance of fun and human connection in sports. This comprehensive analysis provides listeners with a deep understanding of the issues at hand, making it a must-listen for those interested in politics, law, and social justice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we are
rolling through the program. Give you a little bit of
a roadmap what we've talked about so far. Encourage you
to go sign up for the podcast. Make sure you
don't miss a moment. You know you're busy, you're running around,
but you can download the podcast. You can even listen
to us at two x time as my wife does,
(00:21):
which allows you to be even more productive. Leticia James.
We believe that she is in significant legal peril over
alleged mortgage fraud. It appears that she has lied about
where her primary residence is, lied about being married to
her father of all things, and lied about the size
of a Brooklyn location property that she bought. We think
(00:44):
there is going to be a lot to come out
of this, and certainly it is the height of irony
because she tried to bankrupt President Trump over allegations that
he misrepresented the value of his property holdings, among other things.
We have got strong evident out there that Trump voters
still strongly support Trump. We had some fun with that,
(01:04):
and there are a variety of other stories that are
percolating that we have discussed, including what exactly is going
to happen with the Maryland gang member, alleged domestic abuser,
illegal immigrant who has been removed from the country, and
where we are headed for that from a legal perspective,
But there are two other stories that are out there
(01:26):
that I think are significant. First, Buck, we talked about
this you were out on Monday. I said, look, whoever
was responsible for trying to burn down the Pennsylvania Governor's
residence is a really bad guy. Regardless of what his
political motivations were. There should be incredible, significant punishment levied
(01:50):
against this guy. Doesn't matter whether the governor is a
Democrat or Republican, this shouldn't happen or an independent. And
now there is evidence that had come out, according to
Pennsylvania News reports, that the reason the arsonists acted was
because Shapiro, the Governor, was too strong of a supporter
(02:13):
of Israel and he thought that Palestinians and those in
Gaza were being treated unfairly. This actually logically adds up
in some way because I believe, Buck, you're better at
the Jewish Holy Days than I am. This happened basically
right after the Passover celebration, the dinner that they were
(02:34):
having inside of the governor's residence. So the idea that
this was just purely by chance timing did not add up.
I expected that their way may well have been some
connection to the Jewish faith of the governor here. And
so this arsonist told authorities, according to reports coming out
(02:54):
of Pennsylvania this morning, that his motivation was basically trying
to kill the governor, who is Jewish, and his family
because he believed that they had not been protective enough
of Palestinian rights. As it pertains to the response of
October seventh, toxic is.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes, Well, it's it's anti semitic. It's awful, it's it's
attempted murder. It's it's horrible on a human level, because
he's a he's a man, he's a husband, he's he's
got a wife and kids in the house. I'm trying
to burn anybody down in their home.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Is?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I mean this should be taken with the utmost seriousness,
and the penalty for this, the the lawful penalty for
this should be severe, and I think it will be
as it should be. Uh. And I would just add that, uh,
the Palestinian issue as you see, has become this. This
is now grown in the if you will, the uh,
(03:49):
sort of the menu of left wing lunacy items. This
is very high on the list.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
This is we We've gone through different things, right we
we know there's been the transagenda stuff, which we'll have
more on that. Actually, what's going on with Maine, yeah,
and the Trump administration there. But you know, there's the
transagenda stuff. There's Ukraine, which some people on the left
oddly have decided is the most important thing in the world.
People can't find Ukraine on a map, care more about
the final borders of Ukraine than anything else, and are
(04:20):
willing to risk escalation with the nuclear power over it anyway.
But the Palestinian issue has become I think for people Clay,
who are who have a virtue signaling derangement. I mean,
I'm really trying to get into the psychology of this.
But for people who are absolutely desperate to latch onto
(04:43):
something because they tend to be very unhappy with their lives,
they tend to have you know, they tend to have
a lot of unresolved psychological issues. Oh, but I stand
with the super oppressed. Palestinians are the Palestinians more oppressed
than than people right now who are being massacred in
South Sudan. No that they are. They are in fact not,
(05:05):
but people would argue, of course that they're the most
depressed people in the history of the world. Because this
has been this is now an issue, right, This is
something that you get to sign on to that if
you are of this mindset, it makes you a It's
like a religious belief. Right. If you sign onto this,
it wipes away all of your shortcomings and you get
(05:29):
to think of yourself as a good person who stands
on the right side of an issue. And that when
you're talking about left wing people, can cause them to
do incredibly deranged things and move on incredibly to violent things.
I mean, this is the basis. You know, extreme belief
is the basis of most terrorism, and that's what this is.
And I would tie it in.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Imagine Buck, this is a far left wing activist trying
to burn down a Democrat senator I mean Democrat governor's
home and kill everyone inside because they are not far
left wing enough with their politics as it pertains to
the Middle East. Think about this, Buck, we had a
would be assassin show up at Brett Kavanaugh's house. We
(06:13):
had two would be assassin's attempt to kill the President
of the United States, one of whom came within a
quarter inch of Butler, Pennsylvania, from succeeding the other of whom,
as I told you, and I'm still stunned by, almost
happened at Trump's West Palm Beach course. And if you
walk the sixth hole there, the fact that that guy
was allowed to be there with a gun all day
(06:34):
long is criminal negligence in my opinion. And now you
add in Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. These are four different
clear assassination attempts that have been brought to air, both
against Republicans and Democrats by far left wing ideologues. If
Trump's supporters had tried to kill four different people in
(06:55):
the similar manner, it's all that would be talked about,
right we extreme as who's to blame for all of
this occurring? As is a lot of these stories just vanish.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did you mention in that list the twenty eighteen baseball shooting.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I did not, which got Bernie Sanders supporter asked whether
or not it was Democrats or Republicans on the field
open fire and Steve Scalice is lucky to be alive.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, he was hit. Yes, of course Rand Paul was there.
Rand Paul was almost killed by two different lunatic Democrats
in about a twelve or eighteen month period, I forget
the dates, but almost killed twice by Democrats. This is
where we have to get into this. You know, there
was this whole effort on the under the Biden administration,
(07:42):
and it was an extension of the Obama administration which
we all remember and recognize, to say that, you know,
right wing extremism is the biggest threat facing America, and
you know, white nationalists or hiding behind every corner. And
as I said, I've never met a white nationalist in
my life. I have actually met Gie Hottist. I've never
met white nationalists. So they were pushing this narrative you
(08:04):
look at where the political violence has really occurred. You look, look,
Republicans have gotten shot. Republicans have gotten shot. I don't
want anyone to get shot, to be clear, but in
his lunatics on the left, when you're talking about political stuff,
you know, you have you know, and then you could
(08:25):
get into though they would probably say, well, look, Gaddy
Giffords was shot. Gaddy Giffords was shot by a maniac.
That is true, and they immediately tried to blame it
on Republicans, as you know, they try to blame it
on Sarah Palin. In the case of Ran Paul being
shot at with a number of other members of Congress
on that baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia, the guy had
(08:46):
a rifle and shot Stieves Galie lucky to be alive.
They never take any tone responsibility for any of this.
Clay two and you saw, I mean you essentially scouted
after the fact the attempted assassination grounds of Trump at
that base at that criminal negligence.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's criminal negligence that guy was allowed to sit in
that in those bushes all day and that Trump would
come within a hole. Remember he was there like eight hours.
I mean, it's indefensible.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I just, you know, you start to wonder. It's like
I know this, I know the nature and character of
the people that listen to this show, and I know
that all of us would sit around and say, you know,
if somebody was taking a lethal action against the Democrat
politician like kind of liked their house on fire or
going after with a firearm, and we had an opportunity
to intervene and use lethal force to protect that democrat,
(09:38):
we would do it a hundred times out of one
hundred because it's the right thing to do. You do
get this sense that there are unfortunately a lot of
people on the left, because they say it out loud, Clay,
they say it, they write it online, that they will
say things like I hope he the next one won't
miss I hope the next time they're successful. And I'm
(10:03):
telling you I really don't. I would be honest about this.
I mean I would call it out if I saw it.
Nobody on the right is saying anything like, oh, Josh Shapiro,
you know, the next arsonist. You know, no one says
anything like that. But they say that about Trump, and
they said it about Steve Scalise, and they said it
about Ran Paul, and they've said it about Kavanaugh. And
(10:25):
you know, my point here is that the virulent political
radicalism in this country is not entirely on the left,
but it is overwhelmingly on the left.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
That's one hundred percent right. And I just want all
of you to think about again, this story is going
to vanish and the idea what I said on Monday,
Buck was the idea that there was a guy able
to get into the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion and start the fire.
That he did is such a failure of the Pennsylvania
Governor's protective detail that it reminds me of what happened
(11:04):
at Butler, and it reminds me of what happened at
West Palm Beach. And it should not be overlooked because
only by the grace of God is he still alive.
Because you look at those images of how bad the
burned the burned out home was very easily Josh Shapiro
and his entire family could have burned to death in
that home, and that's a failure of security. Much like
to your point, you've said it for a long time,
(11:25):
the fact that that maniac in Butler, Pennsylvania was able
to get his shots off. We were so thankful and
fortunate that they that he did not get his target,
but the fact that it even occurred is such a
failure that there should be severe consequences. The only reason
has been.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The only reason true Trump is alive, not because of
the Secret Service. We all know this Trump is alive
because of chance in the hand of God either or
you get to pick. I would say the hand of God.
Some people just say he's lucky, doesn't it's not the
Secret Service. They failed. Yes, if somebody can get a
shot on the target and hit the target, secret service
(12:04):
has abjectly failed. They just got they were fortunate about
the oppose it was not.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And say with Shapiro, if you don't die because somebody
tried to burn your house down with you inside it,
it's only by the grace of God or your good fortune.
Again your point, either one of those. The security detail failed.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm sitting here and I'm wondering how
the heck this could have happened. By the way, Yeah,
I mean, I'm I'm the Governor's mansion. I'm gonna tell you.
You know, we have a lot. We have a lot
of Pennsylvania listeners. I used to go to camp in Pennsylvania.
It's a great state. People of Pennsylvania. Look, it's a
fantastic place. There's so much great stuff, there so many
great people there. And I want the governor of Pennsylvania
(12:46):
to be safe in his home with his family. I
don't care what their political party is. Yes, right, and
this is where you know the country that we are
as a country that says no one gets burned down
in their home regardless of their politics or their theology,
and we need to send a very their religion, which
seems to have been the target here too. This is
a political religious targeting, is really what it is. Yeah,
(13:09):
I mean this is this is an this is an
anti Jewish thing, and unfortunately the history of that in
our country and stretching back for a very long time
is u is a tragic and far too common one.
But the point is we hope Joshapiro's family are okay,
and there needs to be a reckoning among these because
(13:31):
there are just too many looney tunes running around. Look
what they did on the campus is they're threatening kids? Yes,
well what they've done right, There are too many that
I didn't even think about the testl of the dealerships
to have too many lunatics on their side. Okay, they
got to rain in the looney tunes before somebody gets
hurt again. Wouldn't be the first time. So I think
this stuff is uh is becoming all too clear.
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we
got this big story about Letitia James and what's going
on here. We have a SoundBite from her where well,
let's let you hear it and then we'll all think
this one it's.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Not ready yet. Well see I just sent it in,
but she is. By the way, this is gonna be
a huge story, and if you miss the first hour
of the program, this is where the podcast can come in.
But basically, she has lied according to the forms that
has been presented, like we've actually seen the forms themselves,
about where her primary residence is and her marital status, including,
(16:15):
according to the allegations, saying that she was married to
her father to get a preferable rate on multiple different mortgages.
So this is this is kind of wild and uh,
and I think she is in significant trouble here.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's it's essentially a form of it's a form of perjury.
The act of signing and lying on the form is perjury.
And then that is part of a fraud, defrauding the
bank of the information needed to make a proper assessment
for risk purposes on what kind of loan you get.
She absolutely, if she is guilty of this, she absolutely
(16:51):
knew what she was doing and she absolutely assumed she
would get away with it because of who she is.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And it's an easy crime to prove. The only real
defense you have is, oh, I didn't feel fill it out.
We'll play this for you when we come back, because
it runs a little bit longer than the segment here.
Also Department of Justice suing Maine. We'll talk a little
bit about that. And Buck is fired up about a
megaviral clip from an Atlanta Braves game. Some of you
(17:22):
have seen it, some of you have not, where basically
a sideline reporter is meeting is meeting an individual and.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. All right, one bit
of a house keeping here. We have invited New York
Attorney General Letitia James, the Governor of New York, Kathy
Hokeel And interestingly, remember who forced Andrew Cuomo out of
the Governor's mansion, Leticia James with her somewhat bogus sexual
(19:17):
harassment investigation. Now Andrew Cuomo is favored to be the
next mayor of New York City. We have invited Andrew
Cuomo on to talk about this as well. Maybe they
will all say no, but to be fair, based on
our conversation in hour one open for him for them
if they would like to come on and discuss. Now,
let's have a little bit of fun. Bunk has gotten
(19:38):
fired up about this because he can't believe that it's real.
Some of you may have seen this. I believe it
was Monday night. The Atlanta Braves are playing the Toronto
Blue Jays, and the Braves broadcast has a basically sideline
reporter who is a young, good looking guy who is
working the sideline and he is interviewing two different girls,
(20:03):
cute blonde girls in the crowd who appear to be
Braves fans. I believe here is what it sounded like.
This is cut twenty four. The video is out. We'll
post it at clayanbuck dot com. If you have not
seen this, this has gone megaviral. But here's what it
sounded like if you were watching this baseball game Monday night.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We have a lot of fun out here. Off the
coroner rooftop. Who do we got you wish? Your name?
My name's Lauren Laurence all right, and I'm Kayla Kayla
and you guys hang out the rooftop lounge often once
a year I come out to visit. Okay, we timed
it pretty well. All right?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Good?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
How are you guys feeling roof for the Braves today?
I don't know. I'm hoping for the best. What about you?
Are you Braves fan? Now?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Not? Quiet?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Quiet? All right, I'm gonna go to work up here, guys,
Good luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we
got five innings, four innings to get the numbers. Come on,
come on, let us some more Braves fans. All right,
So they want me to get your number. They want
you to get I'm dead serious, they say to my right,
I shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are
(21:04):
are not. I'm making this up. Even if you guys
weren't to I might use that in the future. That's
actually pretty good move.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay. So it continues. You can hear the girl in
the background saying they want you to get my number,
and he ends up getting one of these girl's phone numbers.
It goes viral and Buck, you have seen the reaction
and you've been texting me. I sent it to you
because I was like, I think you'll enjoy this. Many
members of the sports media have lost their mind. They
(21:31):
are saying this is misogynistic. They are saying this is
completely unprofessional. You've seen the reactions. Can you believe the
reactions to that lighthearted clip that we just played for you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Claig knows he can do this because he tells me,
But I don't. As you all know, I don't pay
any attention to the sports media commentary world really, so
I just this is like it's as no Clays telling
me about the latest Broadway Theater critics or something. I
just don't follow them, so I don't know. And he goes, oh, no,
you don't understand how woke they are, and he sends
me this stuff and it's like throwing steak in the
(22:04):
lion den. I completely freak out because all I can
think about is the sports media does this, Of all
the media to do this, the people that are talking
about guys you know, swinging bats and uh and throwing
balls and doing all this stuff and making all this money.
And you know some of them have cheerleaders on the
sidelines or you know, dancers at halftime. They're free. It's
(22:28):
in my mind. Even though he tells me, my mind
continues to be blown because it's I don't even know
as possible Clay what to kill joy I mean, who could.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
If you can't you, I will read you a couple. Yes,
some people know, because some of you don't know. This
is a woman named Danny Sirek. She is on the
sideline some way or doing something. So are we still
going to ask women in sports if they're only doing
their job to date athletes? We can all agree how
(23:00):
appropriate and nasty. This is not to mention the double standard. Right,
these are not athletes, These are girls in the stands.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But this is a sportsman. Here's a man. This is
a man who writes Ostensibly this do.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
We have to put a man? Do we have to
put man in quotes? Well, this is a guy. Can
we send him some chalk? Because the tea levels, I'm
telling you, sub medical grade. You're gonna hear this near
Ostensibly this is a man. Ralph Vacciano tweets you just
heard this clip an unprofessional disgrace from the reporter, to
(23:39):
the guys in the booth, to the producer in the truck,
who could have stopped it at any point. It's not fun,
it's not cool, it's not harmless, and it's only a
standard for harassment. This is a guy who covers sports
like I feel my estrogen level rising just from listening
(24:02):
to this. I cannot respond there were a bunch of
these guys in these girls who lose their mind. I
have been arguing that. Frankly, I found that a company
based on it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
The disconnect between the average sports fan and the average
sports media member is more substantial than the disconnect between
media and any other group that consumes their content anywhere.
And let me hit you at this buck and this
is my overall thesis. If you cover a game for
a living, that is your job is to watch people
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play something, with very very few exceptions. Because there are
some people who are like, hey, I'm a sports reporter,
but I also cover trials so there could be criminal cases,
or I'm a sports business reporter and I'm focused on
the valuation of franchise things like that. But if you
cover the game itself, your job is to make someone
(24:54):
like something that they already like like it more. And
if you don't do that, you're doing something wrong because
your job is to talk about a sport. Here's what
I think is really happening. I think these people everyone
who criticize this Braves reporter, I think voted for Kamala
Harris overwhelmingly they hate fun. I also think so many
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people in sports media are insecure because they're grown ups
who cover a game, and instead of embracing the fun,
they feel like they have to convince people that they're
capable sitting at the big kids table, and so they
wildly overanalyze the significance of relatively fun, not very significant moments.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Clay, if a single guy can't take his shot and
ask a pretty lady for her phone number, I don't
even know what country we live in anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
It's definitely not America. This is the entire basis for
how every human gets together, right, Every baby on some
level required most of the time. Sometimes girls get numbers.
Most of the time it's guys requires a guy to
ask a girl for her phone number? Right, This is
the foundation of all of our existences.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The funniest thing is you can always tell when people
ask rhetorical questions and the rhetorical question is obviously wrong
and stupid, meaning they think that it's like, oh, what
would have happened if a woman had asked a guy
if the rolls were the guy would be doing backflips?
What are you talking about? An attractive female, say if
he's single, and if you're not, you just say I'm
married or you say I have a girlfriend. But if
(26:24):
a single if an attractive sideline reporter came up to
Clay pre Laura or Buck pre Carrie and was like, hey, like,
can I have your phone number? I promise you we
wouldn't have been like I feel so harassed.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It would be the greatest moment of every guy's life. Now,
women don't think about this in the same way as men,
because if you're an attractive woman, you are being pursued
by men every moment of your life, right, I mean,
this is the reality. You go to the grocery store
a good looking guy, I mean, you're a good looking girl,
A guy might hit on you right like you're at
the gym. Wherever you are, there are men who are
(26:59):
pursuing you. This is how biology works. By Marge, you
might not like the guys that are pursuing you, but
the idea Buck to your point. If a pretty girl
in the stands has a microphone and she's interviewing a guy,
and somebody remarks, hey, chemistry looks pretty good here. You
should ask him for his phone number, and he got
the phone number. Every guy in America will be like,
(27:20):
this is the coolest thing that ever happened. They're not
gonna rip the girl.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
This is a hero moment. Are you kidding me? Everybody
would say it was really cool of the girl to
take the to make the move, and you know, the
guy is the luckiest guy we've seen. How you sort
of get into this? How are people supposed to meet people? Right?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
What is now?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Is it all just? It's only algorithms online where you're
you're you know, you're at arms distance and you don't
actually have to deal with the possibility of like rejecting
somebody or actually talking to them. I mean what I clay,
when you sent me that, I swear I kept reading
through it and it was just like my Fortunately I
have a lot of hair, but I was pulling the
hair out of my head. Not Underski is the only.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Sports media site in the entire country that will say,
there's nothing wrong with this. This is good, lighthearted face.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean to me, this is almost like, you know,
at the end of a local news cast, they'll do like, oh,
like a local mallard in the park, you know, lost
one of her something happy.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
To try to send people off into their day.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yes, this is like a happy end of newscast kind
of story. It's like, oh, and she found her baby duckling, yay,
you know see tomorrow everybody. Uh, this is like a nice,
happy story. It's cute. Look, maybe she gave him a
fake number. Look, maybe it doesn't go to It doesn't matter.
It's a nice little exchange. Obviously, people think this this
woman that he's asking, you know, is an attractive young woman,
(28:40):
and it's all I just this is like it's like
Shakespearean comedy. It's like, this is the sort of thing
that in Western civilization we'd all sit around and smile
about it and be like, oh, isn't that fun and killjoy.
Sports reporters think that it undermines the seriousness of women
in the industry or something like are they just are
just bitter because nobody watched the WNBA draft Clay, Like,
(29:02):
what is the problem here?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
They're also making a ridiculous argument that this somehow equates
to them dating a player or an athlete. This is
not the same thing at all. Thing to do with that,
not enough remotely close. And also it's just a desperate
desire to make yourself a victim something nice happens on television,
(29:23):
and you know what, I already tweeted this, but this
is not going to surprise you. I would if I
own the Braves, I would totally steer into this controversy.
I would have them go on a date at a game.
I would have a reporter assigned to cover the date
during the course of the during the course of the broadcast.
You know this because you've done this show long enough
for me. My response anytime somebody criticizes anything that I
(29:47):
do is to do it even more aggressively. Like some
people are like, oh, you know what, I'll take a
step back. I'm like, We're going to go faster, even
faster into the controversy. And I would totally lean into
this because I I think what it does, and this
was the basic foundation of OutKick is I think that
much of social media as bs, I think that a
(30:08):
lot of what people say there is not representative of
the real world. And if you allow yourself to be
governed by what people say on social media, you end
up making moronic decisions for your company, for your brand,
for your personal life. Because in the analogy I've made
for a long time, and I think I'm being proven
more right every single day is it would be like
(30:29):
buck back in the day. Remember those funny mirrors when
you would go to a carnival and some of them
make you look super fat and some of them make
you look super skinny. If you tried to adjust your
diet based on a funhouse mirror, imagine how broken your
overall life would be. I think that's the story of media.
I think media used social media as a representative, honest
(30:52):
reflection of the real world and tried to adjust their
coverage as of a result, and I think they lit
themselves on fire. I think Trump saw it certainly in
sports without kick and sanity's returning. But every time we
have one of these blow ups, I look at the
comments like you did, and I just I feel like
I'm living in a different world than the reality of
the day to day existence that I see. I it's
(31:15):
still it is.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's one of those things where I didn't think we
would really talk about this because it would only be
You know, there's some people who you know, they'll get
mad at you. If you're like, hey, you know what
can relax? You take a deep breath. They're like, oh,
I'm sorry, mister big deep breath.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh you got mad at you and you were like, hey,
you know what, you should do more of walk? And
people are like, oh, you're so such an elitist. Look
at you able to see radio host with your walking
daily mm you know, I swear I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
There are a bunch of people that were attacking me, like, sorry,
some of us have jobs that don't I'm like, don't
allow you to find any time in the day to
go for a walk anywhere? Okay, I mean, I'm sorry.
You work in like the Fox con iPhone factory.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
This is like me and I I've said this to
my boys a lot, like, hey, you can do push
ups anywhere. I understand everybody doesn't have a fat, fancy
gym membership, but you can do push ups and sit
ups pretty much anywhere. I mean, people in jail sales
get ripped because they just sit around and do push
ups and sit ups all day. You can walk anywhere
pretty much unless you there.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
People that want to be bitter about everything. Was my point,
and you'll find that on the internet. They just want
to be bitter. But people that make a living commenting
on sports, instead of seeing this as a viral clip
and something that can bring everyone together A lot of
a lot plays point is it's not that a cup.
A lot of them were attacking.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
This twenty thirty people with substantial audiences like this is unacceptable.
How dare this be allowed to occur? A real people
are so nuts? There's more totally nuts it is. It
is crazy. Anyway, if you're a single guy, go ask
a pretty girl for her phone number, and hopefully you'll
have kids one day and that will be the foundation
(32:48):
of your if or if you're a nice.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Young woman and you find a guy who's single and
you think he's cute, ask him. I promise you if
he's not going to be offended, he's not going to
be offended, not going to be offended. I promise you
could be like, oh dare you? Oh dare you?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Madam.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
One of the most intimidating things that any man ever
has to do is ask a pretty girl for her
phone number or her contact information, because it sets you
up for rejection. As everybody who's ever been to prom
everybody who's ever been to a dance, men have to
ask overwhelmingly. Yeah, if you're a pretty girl and you
like a guy, go for it. But I got my battleship.
I got my battleship sunk plenty of times before I
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Speaker 2 (34:50):
All right, we're closing up shop here on Clay and Buck.
Thanks for rolling with us, and I'm telling you we're
gonna have a lot more on that Le'ssia James story.
I think tomorrow that's not going away anytime, going to
have to come out now and address it. I think
she's gonna come out done plazing because opera, what other
option does she have? Uh? And we'll also have more
on the fight for mister Abrago Garcia, the illegal in
(35:11):
El Salvador at the Sea Cott cec Ot prison in
El Salvador, which the Democrats are making a big issue.
We got a lot of talkbacks, a lot of calls.
We figured this one to get you guys fired up.
A A Henry from New York, a w o R listener.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Play it on this sad day, which is tax day.
Listening to you two guys makes the painless intense. So
I think you would like the antidote the tax That's
what you are, tax antidote.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
There we Hey man, Clay, that's high praise, right, Well
we'll take that.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I wish we could be the tax antidote because anyway,
it's just crazy. I know a lot of you were
having tears in your eyes almost as you stroke those
checks yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
We like, Clay, and I like to think that we're
a spoonful of sugar that helps the tax.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Day go down.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know what I mean? Here we go, bb Pam
from Anchorage, Alaska, A K E N I listener up there,
play it.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Congratulations, fucking carry on the baby. I was just going
to ask how Ginger is doing.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
What does Ginger think of sweet baby James.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
She it's a great question. She is fascinated. She has
come over and given little sniffs and little smooches to
her like the baby's feet when we held. You know,
we're careful because Ginger still an animal, and I know
that you know you got it. But she's fascinated. She's
a little sweet doggie and she loves our little She
thinks it's like a little alien. I can tell, but
she likes the little alien. So so far, so good
(36:36):
on all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Play what do you want to do? Tomorrow we'll break
down the absolute latest. Maybe Letitia James will have to
respond somewhat in earnest, and also we'll get into that
main and Department of Justice. We didn't really talk about
it that much. The lawsuit that I think is going
to be widely supported by maners
Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we are
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(00:21):
which allows you to be even more productive. Leticia James.
We believe that she is in significant legal peril over
alleged mortgage fraud. It appears that she has lied about
where her primary residence is, lied about being married to
her father of all things, and lied about the size
of a Brooklyn location property that she bought. We think
(00:44):
there is going to be a lot to come out
of this, and certainly it is the height of irony
because she tried to bankrupt President Trump over allegations that
he misrepresented the value of his property holdings, among other things.
We have got strong evident out there that Trump voters
still strongly support Trump. We had some fun with that,
(01:04):
and there are a variety of other stories that are
percolating that we have discussed, including what exactly is going
to happen with the Maryland gang member, alleged domestic abuser,
illegal immigrant who has been removed from the country, and
where we are headed for that from a legal perspective,
But there are two other stories that are out there
(01:26):
that I think are significant. First, Buck, we talked about
this you were out on Monday. I said, look, whoever
was responsible for trying to burn down the Pennsylvania Governor's
residence is a really bad guy. Regardless of what his
political motivations were. There should be incredible, significant punishment levied
(01:50):
against this guy. Doesn't matter whether the governor is a
Democrat or Republican, this shouldn't happen or an independent. And
now there is evidence that had come out, according to
Pennsylvania News reports, that the reason the arsonists acted was
because Shapiro, the Governor, was too strong of a supporter
(02:13):
of Israel and he thought that Palestinians and those in
Gaza were being treated unfairly. This actually logically adds up
in some way because I believe, Buck, you're better at
the Jewish Holy Days than I am. This happened basically
right after the Passover celebration, the dinner that they were
(02:34):
having inside of the governor's residence. So the idea that
this was just purely by chance timing did not add up.
I expected that their way may well have been some
connection to the Jewish faith of the governor here. And
so this arsonist told authorities, according to reports coming out
(02:54):
of Pennsylvania this morning, that his motivation was basically trying
to kill the governor, who is Jewish, and his family
because he believed that they had not been protective enough
of Palestinian rights. As it pertains to the response of
October seventh, toxic is.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes, Well, it's it's anti semitic. It's awful, it's it's
attempted murder. It's it's horrible on a human level, because
he's a he's a man, he's a husband, he's he's
got a wife and kids in the house. I'm trying
to burn anybody down in their home.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Is?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I mean this should be taken with the utmost seriousness,
and the penalty for this, the the lawful penalty for
this should be severe, and I think it will be
as it should be. Uh. And I would just add that, uh,
the Palestinian issue as you see, has become this. This
is now grown in the if you will, the uh,
(03:49):
sort of the menu of left wing lunacy items. This
is very high on the list.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
This is we We've gone through different things, right we
we know there's been the transagenda stuff, which we'll have
more on that. Actually, what's going on with Maine, yeah,
and the Trump administration there. But you know, there's the
transagenda stuff. There's Ukraine, which some people on the left
oddly have decided is the most important thing in the world.
People can't find Ukraine on a map, care more about
the final borders of Ukraine than anything else, and are
(04:20):
willing to risk escalation with the nuclear power over it anyway.
But the Palestinian issue has become I think for people Clay,
who are who have a virtue signaling derangement. I mean,
I'm really trying to get into the psychology of this.
But for people who are absolutely desperate to latch onto
(04:43):
something because they tend to be very unhappy with their lives,
they tend to have you know, they tend to have
a lot of unresolved psychological issues. Oh, but I stand
with the super oppressed. Palestinians are the Palestinians more oppressed
than than people right now who are being massacred in
South Sudan. No that they are. They are in fact not,
(05:05):
but people would argue, of course that they're the most
depressed people in the history of the world. Because this
has been this is now an issue, right, This is
something that you get to sign on to that if
you are of this mindset, it makes you a It's
like a religious belief. Right. If you sign onto this,
it wipes away all of your shortcomings and you get
(05:29):
to think of yourself as a good person who stands
on the right side of an issue. And that when
you're talking about left wing people, can cause them to
do incredibly deranged things and move on incredibly to violent things.
I mean, this is the basis. You know, extreme belief
is the basis of most terrorism, and that's what this is.
And I would tie it in.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Imagine Buck, this is a far left wing activist trying
to burn down a Democrat senator I mean Democrat governor's
home and kill everyone inside because they are not far
left wing enough with their politics as it pertains to
the Middle East. Think about this, Buck, we had a
would be assassin show up at Brett Kavanaugh's house. We
(06:13):
had two would be assassin's attempt to kill the President
of the United States, one of whom came within a
quarter inch of Butler, Pennsylvania, from succeeding the other of whom,
as I told you, and I'm still stunned by, almost
happened at Trump's West Palm Beach course. And if you
walk the sixth hole there, the fact that that guy
was allowed to be there with a gun all day
(06:34):
long is criminal negligence in my opinion. And now you
add in Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. These are four different
clear assassination attempts that have been brought to air, both
against Republicans and Democrats by far left wing ideologues. If
Trump's supporters had tried to kill four different people in
(06:55):
the similar manner, it's all that would be talked about,
right we extreme as who's to blame for all of
this occurring? As is a lot of these stories just vanish.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did you mention in that list the twenty eighteen baseball shooting.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I did not, which got Bernie Sanders supporter asked whether
or not it was Democrats or Republicans on the field
open fire and Steve Scalice is lucky to be alive.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, he was hit. Yes, of course Rand Paul was there.
Rand Paul was almost killed by two different lunatic Democrats
in about a twelve or eighteen month period, I forget
the dates, but almost killed twice by Democrats. This is
where we have to get into this. You know, there
was this whole effort on the under the Biden administration,
(07:42):
and it was an extension of the Obama administration which
we all remember and recognize, to say that, you know,
right wing extremism is the biggest threat facing America, and
you know, white nationalists or hiding behind every corner. And
as I said, I've never met a white nationalist in
my life. I have actually met Gie Hottist. I've never
met white nationalists. So they were pushing this narrative you
(08:04):
look at where the political violence has really occurred. You look, look,
Republicans have gotten shot. Republicans have gotten shot. I don't
want anyone to get shot, to be clear, but in
his lunatics on the left, when you're talking about political stuff,
you know, you have you know, and then you could
(08:25):
get into though they would probably say, well, look, Gaddy
Giffords was shot. Gaddy Giffords was shot by a maniac.
That is true, and they immediately tried to blame it
on Republicans, as you know, they try to blame it
on Sarah Palin. In the case of Ran Paul being
shot at with a number of other members of Congress
on that baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia, the guy had
(08:46):
a rifle and shot Stieves Galie lucky to be alive.
They never take any tone responsibility for any of this.
Clay two and you saw, I mean you essentially scouted
after the fact the attempted assassination grounds of Trump at
that base at that criminal negligence.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's criminal negligence that guy was allowed to sit in
that in those bushes all day and that Trump would
come within a hole. Remember he was there like eight hours.
I mean, it's indefensible.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I just, you know, you start to wonder. It's like
I know this, I know the nature and character of
the people that listen to this show, and I know
that all of us would sit around and say, you know,
if somebody was taking a lethal action against the Democrat
politician like kind of liked their house on fire or
going after with a firearm, and we had an opportunity
to intervene and use lethal force to protect that democrat,
(09:38):
we would do it a hundred times out of one
hundred because it's the right thing to do. You do
get this sense that there are unfortunately a lot of
people on the left, because they say it out loud, Clay,
they say it, they write it online, that they will
say things like I hope he the next one won't
miss I hope the next time they're successful. And I'm
(10:03):
telling you I really don't. I would be honest about this.
I mean I would call it out if I saw it.
Nobody on the right is saying anything like, oh, Josh Shapiro,
you know, the next arsonist. You know, no one says
anything like that. But they say that about Trump, and
they said it about Steve Scalise, and they said it
about Ran Paul, and they've said it about Kavanaugh. And
(10:25):
you know, my point here is that the virulent political
radicalism in this country is not entirely on the left,
but it is overwhelmingly on the left.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
That's one hundred percent right. And I just want all
of you to think about again, this story is going
to vanish and the idea what I said on Monday,
Buck was the idea that there was a guy able
to get into the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion and start the fire.
That he did is such a failure of the Pennsylvania
Governor's protective detail that it reminds me of what happened
(11:04):
at Butler, and it reminds me of what happened at
West Palm Beach. And it should not be overlooked because
only by the grace of God is he still alive.
Because you look at those images of how bad the
burned the burned out home was very easily Josh Shapiro
and his entire family could have burned to death in
that home, and that's a failure of security. Much like
to your point, you've said it for a long time,
(11:25):
the fact that that maniac in Butler, Pennsylvania was able
to get his shots off. We were so thankful and
fortunate that they that he did not get his target,
but the fact that it even occurred is such a
failure that there should be severe consequences. The only reason
has been.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The only reason true Trump is alive, not because of
the Secret Service. We all know this Trump is alive
because of chance in the hand of God either or
you get to pick. I would say the hand of God.
Some people just say he's lucky, doesn't it's not the
Secret Service. They failed. Yes, if somebody can get a
shot on the target and hit the target, secret service
(12:04):
has abjectly failed. They just got they were fortunate about
the oppose it was not.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And say with Shapiro, if you don't die because somebody
tried to burn your house down with you inside it,
it's only by the grace of God or your good fortune.
Again your point, either one of those. The security detail failed.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm sitting here and I'm wondering how
the heck this could have happened. By the way, Yeah,
I mean, I'm I'm the Governor's mansion. I'm gonna tell you.
You know, we have a lot. We have a lot
of Pennsylvania listeners. I used to go to camp in Pennsylvania.
It's a great state. People of Pennsylvania. Look, it's a
fantastic place. There's so much great stuff, there so many
great people there. And I want the governor of Pennsylvania
(12:46):
to be safe in his home with his family. I
don't care what their political party is. Yes, right, and
this is where you know the country that we are
as a country that says no one gets burned down
in their home regardless of their politics or their theology,
and we need to send a very their religion, which
seems to have been the target here too. This is
a political religious targeting, is really what it is. Yeah,
(13:09):
I mean this is this is an this is an
anti Jewish thing, and unfortunately the history of that in
our country and stretching back for a very long time
is u is a tragic and far too common one.
But the point is we hope Joshapiro's family are okay,
and there needs to be a reckoning among these because
(13:31):
there are just too many looney tunes running around. Look
what they did on the campus is they're threatening kids? Yes,
well what they've done right, There are too many that
I didn't even think about the testl of the dealerships
to have too many lunatics on their side. Okay, they
got to rain in the looney tunes before somebody gets
hurt again. Wouldn't be the first time. So I think
this stuff is uh is becoming all too clear.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
No doubt. Look, I was up Fox and Friends over
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we
got this big story about Letitia James and what's going
on here. We have a SoundBite from her where well,
let's let you hear it and then we'll all think
this one it's.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Not ready yet. Well see I just sent it in,
but she is. By the way, this is gonna be
a huge story, and if you miss the first hour
of the program, this is where the podcast can come in.
But basically, she has lied according to the forms that
has been presented, like we've actually seen the forms themselves,
about where her primary residence is and her marital status, including,
(16:15):
according to the allegations, saying that she was married to
her father to get a preferable rate on multiple different mortgages.
So this is this is kind of wild and uh,
and I think she is in significant trouble here.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's it's essentially a form of it's a form of perjury.
The act of signing and lying on the form is perjury.
And then that is part of a fraud, defrauding the
bank of the information needed to make a proper assessment
for risk purposes on what kind of loan you get.
She absolutely, if she is guilty of this, she absolutely
(16:51):
knew what she was doing and she absolutely assumed she
would get away with it because of who she is.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And it's an easy crime to prove. The only real
defense you have is, oh, I didn't feel fill it out.
We'll play this for you when we come back, because
it runs a little bit longer than the segment here.
Also Department of Justice suing Maine. We'll talk a little
bit about that. And Buck is fired up about a
megaviral clip from an Atlanta Braves game. Some of you
(17:22):
have seen it, some of you have not, where basically
a sideline reporter is meeting is meeting an individual and.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I just want everyone to know. I want all the
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. All right, one bit
of a house keeping here. We have invited New York
Attorney General Letitia James, the Governor of New York, Kathy
Hokeel And interestingly, remember who forced Andrew Cuomo out of
the Governor's mansion, Leticia James with her somewhat bogus sexual
(19:17):
harassment investigation. Now Andrew Cuomo is favored to be the
next mayor of New York City. We have invited Andrew
Cuomo on to talk about this as well. Maybe they
will all say no, but to be fair, based on
our conversation in hour one open for him for them
if they would like to come on and discuss. Now,
let's have a little bit of fun. Bunk has gotten
(19:38):
fired up about this because he can't believe that it's real.
Some of you may have seen this. I believe it
was Monday night. The Atlanta Braves are playing the Toronto
Blue Jays, and the Braves broadcast has a basically sideline
reporter who is a young, good looking guy who is
working the sideline and he is interviewing two different girls,
(20:03):
cute blonde girls in the crowd who appear to be
Braves fans. I believe here is what it sounded like.
This is cut twenty four. The video is out. We'll
post it at clayanbuck dot com. If you have not
seen this, this has gone megaviral. But here's what it
sounded like if you were watching this baseball game Monday night.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We have a lot of fun out here. Off the
coroner rooftop. Who do we got you wish? Your name?
My name's Lauren Laurence all right, and I'm Kayla Kayla
and you guys hang out the rooftop lounge often once
a year I come out to visit. Okay, we timed
it pretty well. All right?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Good?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
How are you guys feeling roof for the Braves today?
I don't know. I'm hoping for the best. What about you?
Are you Braves fan? Now?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Not? Quiet?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Quiet? All right, I'm gonna go to work up here, guys,
Good luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we
got five innings, four innings to get the numbers. Come on,
come on, let us some more Braves fans. All right,
So they want me to get your number. They want
you to get I'm dead serious, they say to my right,
I shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are
(21:04):
are not. I'm making this up. Even if you guys
weren't to I might use that in the future. That's
actually pretty good move.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay. So it continues. You can hear the girl in
the background saying they want you to get my number,
and he ends up getting one of these girl's phone numbers.
It goes viral and Buck, you have seen the reaction
and you've been texting me. I sent it to you
because I was like, I think you'll enjoy this. Many
members of the sports media have lost their mind. They
(21:31):
are saying this is misogynistic. They are saying this is
completely unprofessional. You've seen the reactions. Can you believe the
reactions to that lighthearted clip that we just played for you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Claig knows he can do this because he tells me,
But I don't. As you all know, I don't pay
any attention to the sports media commentary world really, so
I just this is like it's as no Clays telling
me about the latest Broadway Theater critics or something. I
just don't follow them, so I don't know. And he goes, oh, no,
you don't understand how woke they are, and he sends
me this stuff and it's like throwing steak in the
(22:04):
lion den. I completely freak out because all I can
think about is the sports media does this, Of all
the media to do this, the people that are talking
about guys you know, swinging bats and uh and throwing
balls and doing all this stuff and making all this money.
And you know some of them have cheerleaders on the
sidelines or you know, dancers at halftime. They're free. It's
(22:28):
in my mind. Even though he tells me, my mind
continues to be blown because it's I don't even know
as possible Clay what to kill joy I mean, who could.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
If you can't you, I will read you a couple. Yes,
some people know, because some of you don't know. This
is a woman named Danny Sirek. She is on the
sideline some way or doing something. So are we still
going to ask women in sports if they're only doing
their job to date athletes? We can all agree how
(23:00):
appropriate and nasty. This is not to mention the double standard. Right,
these are not athletes, These are girls in the stands.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But this is a sportsman. Here's a man. This is
a man who writes Ostensibly this do.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
We have to put a man? Do we have to
put man in quotes? Well, this is a guy. Can
we send him some chalk? Because the tea levels, I'm
telling you, sub medical grade. You're gonna hear this near
Ostensibly this is a man. Ralph Vacciano tweets you just
heard this clip an unprofessional disgrace from the reporter, to
(23:39):
the guys in the booth, to the producer in the truck,
who could have stopped it at any point. It's not fun,
it's not cool, it's not harmless, and it's only a
standard for harassment. This is a guy who covers sports
like I feel my estrogen level rising just from listening
(24:02):
to this. I cannot respond there were a bunch of
these guys in these girls who lose their mind. I
have been arguing that. Frankly, I found that a company
based on it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
The disconnect between the average sports fan and the average
sports media member is more substantial than the disconnect between
media and any other group that consumes their content anywhere.
And let me hit you at this buck and this
is my overall thesis. If you cover a game for
a living, that is your job is to watch people
(24:33):
play something, with very very few exceptions. Because there are
some people who are like, hey, I'm a sports reporter,
but I also cover trials so there could be criminal cases,
or I'm a sports business reporter and I'm focused on
the valuation of franchise things like that. But if you
cover the game itself, your job is to make someone
(24:54):
like something that they already like like it more. And
if you don't do that, you're doing something wrong because
your job is to talk about a sport. Here's what
I think is really happening. I think these people everyone
who criticize this Braves reporter, I think voted for Kamala
Harris overwhelmingly they hate fun. I also think so many
(25:16):
people in sports media are insecure because they're grown ups
who cover a game, and instead of embracing the fun,
they feel like they have to convince people that they're
capable sitting at the big kids table, and so they
wildly overanalyze the significance of relatively fun, not very significant moments.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Clay, if a single guy can't take his shot and
ask a pretty lady for her phone number, I don't
even know what country we live in anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
It's definitely not America. This is the entire basis for
how every human gets together, right, Every baby on some
level required most of the time. Sometimes girls get numbers.
Most of the time it's guys requires a guy to
ask a girl for her phone number? Right, This is
the foundation of all of our existences.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The funniest thing is you can always tell when people
ask rhetorical questions and the rhetorical question is obviously wrong
and stupid, meaning they think that it's like, oh, what
would have happened if a woman had asked a guy
if the rolls were the guy would be doing backflips?
What are you talking about? An attractive female, say if
he's single, and if you're not, you just say I'm
married or you say I have a girlfriend. But if
(26:24):
a single if an attractive sideline reporter came up to
Clay pre Laura or Buck pre Carrie and was like, hey, like,
can I have your phone number? I promise you we
wouldn't have been like I feel so harassed.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It would be the greatest moment of every guy's life. Now,
women don't think about this in the same way as men,
because if you're an attractive woman, you are being pursued
by men every moment of your life, right, I mean,
this is the reality. You go to the grocery store
a good looking guy, I mean, you're a good looking girl,
A guy might hit on you right like you're at
the gym. Wherever you are, there are men who are
(26:59):
pursuing you. This is how biology works. By Marge, you
might not like the guys that are pursuing you, but
the idea Buck to your point. If a pretty girl
in the stands has a microphone and she's interviewing a guy,
and somebody remarks, hey, chemistry looks pretty good here. You
should ask him for his phone number, and he got
the phone number. Every guy in America will be like,
(27:20):
this is the coolest thing that ever happened. They're not
gonna rip the girl.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
This is a hero moment. Are you kidding me? Everybody
would say it was really cool of the girl to
take the to make the move, and you know, the
guy is the luckiest guy we've seen. How you sort
of get into this? How are people supposed to meet people? Right?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
What is now?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Is it all just? It's only algorithms online where you're
you're you know, you're at arms distance and you don't
actually have to deal with the possibility of like rejecting
somebody or actually talking to them. I mean what I clay,
when you sent me that, I swear I kept reading
through it and it was just like my Fortunately I
have a lot of hair, but I was pulling the
hair out of my head. Not Underski is the only.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Sports media site in the entire country that will say,
there's nothing wrong with this. This is good, lighthearted face.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean to me, this is almost like, you know,
at the end of a local news cast, they'll do like, oh,
like a local mallard in the park, you know, lost
one of her something happy.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
To try to send people off into their day.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yes, this is like a happy end of newscast kind
of story. It's like, oh, and she found her baby duckling, yay,
you know see tomorrow everybody. Uh, this is like a nice,
happy story. It's cute. Look, maybe she gave him a
fake number. Look, maybe it doesn't go to It doesn't matter.
It's a nice little exchange. Obviously, people think this this
woman that he's asking, you know, is an attractive young woman,
(28:40):
and it's all I just this is like it's like
Shakespearean comedy. It's like, this is the sort of thing
that in Western civilization we'd all sit around and smile
about it and be like, oh, isn't that fun and killjoy.
Sports reporters think that it undermines the seriousness of women
in the industry or something like are they just are
just bitter because nobody watched the WNBA draft Clay, Like,
(29:02):
what is the problem here?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
They're also making a ridiculous argument that this somehow equates
to them dating a player or an athlete. This is
not the same thing at all. Thing to do with that,
not enough remotely close. And also it's just a desperate
desire to make yourself a victim something nice happens on television,
(29:23):
and you know what, I already tweeted this, but this
is not going to surprise you. I would if I
own the Braves, I would totally steer into this controversy.
I would have them go on a date at a game.
I would have a reporter assigned to cover the date
during the course of the during the course of the broadcast.
You know this because you've done this show long enough
for me. My response anytime somebody criticizes anything that I
(29:47):
do is to do it even more aggressively. Like some
people are like, oh, you know what, I'll take a
step back. I'm like, We're going to go faster, even
faster into the controversy. And I would totally lean into
this because I I think what it does, and this
was the basic foundation of OutKick is I think that
much of social media as bs, I think that a
(30:08):
lot of what people say there is not representative of
the real world. And if you allow yourself to be
governed by what people say on social media, you end
up making moronic decisions for your company, for your brand,
for your personal life. Because in the analogy I've made
for a long time, and I think I'm being proven
more right every single day is it would be like
(30:29):
buck back in the day. Remember those funny mirrors when
you would go to a carnival and some of them
make you look super fat and some of them make
you look super skinny. If you tried to adjust your
diet based on a funhouse mirror, imagine how broken your
overall life would be. I think that's the story of media.
I think media used social media as a representative, honest
(30:52):
reflection of the real world and tried to adjust their
coverage as of a result, and I think they lit
themselves on fire. I think Trump saw it certainly in
sports without kick and sanity's returning. But every time we
have one of these blow ups, I look at the
comments like you did, and I just I feel like
I'm living in a different world than the reality of
the day to day existence that I see. I it's
(31:15):
still it is.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's one of those things where I didn't think we
would really talk about this because it would only be
You know, there's some people who you know, they'll get
mad at you. If you're like, hey, you know what
can relax? You take a deep breath. They're like, oh,
I'm sorry, mister big deep breath.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh you got mad at you and you were like, hey,
you know what, you should do more of walk? And
people are like, oh, you're so such an elitist. Look
at you able to see radio host with your walking
daily mm you know, I swear I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
There are a bunch of people that were attacking me, like, sorry,
some of us have jobs that don't I'm like, don't
allow you to find any time in the day to
go for a walk anywhere? Okay, I mean, I'm sorry.
You work in like the Fox con iPhone factory.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
This is like me and I I've said this to
my boys a lot, like, hey, you can do push
ups anywhere. I understand everybody doesn't have a fat, fancy
gym membership, but you can do push ups and sit
ups pretty much anywhere. I mean, people in jail sales
get ripped because they just sit around and do push
ups and sit ups all day. You can walk anywhere
pretty much unless you there.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
People that want to be bitter about everything. Was my point,
and you'll find that on the internet. They just want
to be bitter. But people that make a living commenting
on sports, instead of seeing this as a viral clip
and something that can bring everyone together A lot of
a lot plays point is it's not that a cup.
A lot of them were attacking.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
This twenty thirty people with substantial audiences like this is unacceptable.
How dare this be allowed to occur? A real people
are so nuts? There's more totally nuts it is. It
is crazy. Anyway, if you're a single guy, go ask
a pretty girl for her phone number, and hopefully you'll
have kids one day and that will be the foundation
(32:48):
of your if or if you're a nice.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Young woman and you find a guy who's single and
you think he's cute, ask him. I promise you if
he's not going to be offended, he's not going to
be offended, not going to be offended. I promise you
could be like, oh dare you? Oh dare you?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Madam.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
One of the most intimidating things that any man ever
has to do is ask a pretty girl for her
phone number or her contact information, because it sets you
up for rejection. As everybody who's ever been to prom
everybody who's ever been to a dance, men have to
ask overwhelmingly. Yeah, if you're a pretty girl and you
like a guy, go for it. But I got my battleship.
I got my battleship sunk plenty of times before I
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Speaker 2 (34:50):
All right, we're closing up shop here on Clay and Buck.
Thanks for rolling with us, and I'm telling you we're
gonna have a lot more on that Le'ssia James story.
I think tomorrow that's not going away anytime, going to
have to come out now and address it. I think
she's gonna come out done plazing because opera, what other
option does she have? Uh? And we'll also have more
on the fight for mister Abrago Garcia, the illegal in
(35:11):
El Salvador at the Sea Cott cec Ot prison in
El Salvador, which the Democrats are making a big issue.
We got a lot of talkbacks, a lot of calls.
We figured this one to get you guys fired up.
A A Henry from New York, a w o R listener.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Play it on this sad day, which is tax day.
Listening to you two guys makes the painless intense. So
I think you would like the antidote the tax That's
what you are, tax antidote.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
There we Hey man, Clay, that's high praise, right, Well
we'll take that.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I wish we could be the tax antidote because anyway,
it's just crazy. I know a lot of you were
having tears in your eyes almost as you stroke those
checks yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
We like, Clay, and I like to think that we're
a spoonful of sugar that helps the tax.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Day go down.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know what I mean? Here we go, bb Pam
from Anchorage, Alaska, A K E N I listener up there,
play it.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Congratulations, fucking carry on the baby. I was just going
to ask how Ginger is doing.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
What does Ginger think of sweet baby James.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
She it's a great question. She is fascinated. She has
come over and given little sniffs and little smooches to
her like the baby's feet when we held. You know,
we're careful because Ginger still an animal, and I know
that you know you got it. But she's fascinated. She's
a little sweet doggie and she loves our little She
thinks it's like a little alien. I can tell, but
she likes the little alien. So so far, so good
(36:36):
on all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Play what do you want to do? Tomorrow we'll break
down the absolute latest. Maybe Letitia James will have to
respond somewhat in earnest, and also we'll get into that
main and Department of Justice. We didn't really talk about
it that much. The lawsuit that I think is going
to be widely supported by maners
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