April 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into a range of pressing topics, starting with discussions on Trump's economy and his evolving stance on trade deals with China. The hosts speculate whether Trump's approach is genuine or a strategic head fake. They also highlight Border Czar Tom Homan's significant contributions to the Trump administration, particularly in deportation efforts and combating the Kilmar Abrego Garcia Martyrdom industrial complex.
The conversation shifts to Elon Musk and the challenges Tesla faces with its profits, suggesting Musk might refocus on his core businesses. Market updates are provided, noting the stability and performance of the Clayfolio. The hosts then address the Democratic Party's internal struggles, including the Biden dementia cover-up and the ongoing push for the trans agenda, emphasizing the impact of the Supreme Court's composition on these issues.
Covid-19 remains a hot topic, with discussions on school shutdowns and the detrimental effects on disadvantaged children, which was outlined by guest David Zweig on Tuesday's show and his book "An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions." The hosts criticize Randi Weingarten's role in the prolonged closures and her attempts to rewrite history. They also touch on the Supreme Court's recent arguments regarding controversial books in schools, uniting parents across religious lines in opposition to certain content.
The show features a segment on parental involvement in education, stressing its importance over financial resources. The hosts argue that teachers' unions are a malignant force in children's education and advocate for the elimination of public sector unions for teachers. They also discuss the need for more children and family formation, highlighting the role of parents in educational success.
The hour concludes with a critique of the gender ideology being taught to young children, questioning the necessity and appropriateness of such content. The hosts argue that this indoctrination is part of a broader agenda to reshape societal norms and emphasize the importance of parental vigilance in educational matters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Klay, Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. We got a lot to dive
into with all of you. Thank you so much for
rolling with us.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We've got let.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Me see here, Trump's economy more coming out on the
trade deals. Trump attach said it's gonna be very He's
gonna be very nice to China.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We'll see how long that lasts.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Is he gonna be nice to China's It's a head fake?
What's going on here? Trump is being Trump Tom Holman
laying down the law here. You know, I have borderline
Homan Man crush. This is a guy who is essential
to the future of the Republic, who knows his portfolio
as well as anybody, and who is just doing a
(00:45):
fantastic job for the Trump administration. And he is not
going to abide any nonsense when it comes to the
efforts to sabotage a deportation efforts and the whole a
break Garcia martyrdom industrial complex that is going on right now.
(01:06):
We're not going to allow that to just go or
he's not going to allow that to just be a
thing where they turn this guy into a symbol.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Elon Musk weighing it again.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Rough rough period here for a Tesla profits Elon's going
to be heading back. I think pretty soon he's going
to be going back to focusing on what it is
that he needs to be doing, which is other than doge,
which is running some of the most important and innovative
companies in the world. Markets, just making sure nothing's changed
(01:37):
since our last check. Market's looking pretty good. Do you
ever look at I can you know how I can
tell guys Clay's Clay's pretty cool as a cute cover
right now. You know, if I come in here, the
market's down twelve hundred points. Clay has this look on
his face. He's not a happy camper about it, because
you know, he's got to manage the Clay, the Clay folio,
the portfolio of all things Clay, and he does not
(01:58):
like it when that market is getting crushed. But let's
have some fun with something else for a moment here,
because you know, we had on yesterday David's wig and
I know, you know, look talking COVID, some of you
are like, oh, we have to move on. You see
what's going on right now is the Democrats are having
to exercise the demons from within a bit here. They're
(02:21):
having to at least go through a process of the
whole Biden dementia cover up. What was that all about?
Are they really going to keep pushing on this trans stuff?
I think the answer is yes, by the way, but
they're at least looking around saying, how do we win
on an eighty twenty maybe ninety ten issue nationally? And
(02:42):
then you also have, by the way, Clay, I just
one thing I would throw out there. If we had
a different Supreme Court. I know this is I'm weaving here, everybody,
but weave with me. If we had a different Supreme Court,
you would have the trans agenda would have been mandated
the same way Roe v.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Wade was.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I truly believe that if Trump loses and we have
a different Supreme Court makeup, you have a dick tot
from the court years ago saying that you know you
have to I actually think that could have happened, as
crazy as that may sound now because we have a
more sane court. But on the COVID thing, we had
Zwagon yesterday and we were talking to him about the
(03:20):
school shutdowns, which is I know, Clay, this is tough,
so many of it. What is the thing that gets
you the angriest. And we're gonna Randy Winingarden's out there.
I'm gonna tie this into the news cycle here today
in just a moment, everyone, What is the COVID thing
that at this point takes you off the most? I
(03:41):
still think the lab leak for our people, for our side,
the lie about the lab leak is the one that
gets them the most aggravated.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
What is it for you?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's still that kids weren't able to go to school
for almost two years, and and honestly, I thought David's
wig yesterday really kind of brought in hell. But I've
tried to hammer this as well. The kids that were
the most disadvantaged during COVID were the ones that had
the least privilege and the least opportunity in the first place.
(04:11):
Because if you're Gavin Newsom's kids, he puts you in
a private school even while all the public schools are
shut down, and his kids are getting an elite education.
If you are wealthy enough to have private tutors, if
you are fortunate enough to have had parents who could
be involved in your education because they weren't having to
go to work. To try to make sure that you
(04:33):
had a roof over your head. Then COVID was not ideal,
but you were able to make through it, potentially even thrive.
I've said this before, but he was I guess ten
at the time when COVID happened. My ten year old.
When twenty twenty ended, remember how everybody was celebrating ball
drops and they're like, boy, I'm so glad twenty twenty's over.
(04:54):
He was like, no, dad, twenty twenty was the best
year ever. And I said, well, what do you mean
And he said, Dad, we got out of school and
didn't have to go back in March. You know, if
you're a kid, one snow day is a big deal.
They basically got two months of snow days. And he said,
and this was I thought, really kind of touching. He
was like, you and mom were home all the time,
(05:16):
Like you weren't. I wasn't traveling very much for work.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So, for a lot of young kids, if you were
fortunate enough to have parents who were able to be
around the household, they came through it fine. They might
have even thrived. But on the other hand, if your
mom or your dad or you're a single parent household
and they're having to bust their ass to try to
make sure that you're taken care of. And they don't
have quote, non essential jobs where they get to eat
(05:39):
Cheetos and watch Netflix from home and order door Dash.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
If you don't have all.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Those opportunities, then you might not have had Wi Fi
at home, You didn't have any real educational environments surrounding you,
you had.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
No support structure.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
We threw the least disadvantaged, the kids who needed school
in person the most to the wolves, and unfortunately we're reaping.
I think the consequences of that awful decision, and a
big part of it was Randy Winegarden, who is still
trying to claim, and I think it's important to hold
these people accountable that she had nothing to do with
(06:15):
why schools didn't reopen. And it's a lie, and it's
a really nasty lie.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, it's it's a Soviet style rewriting of history by
the Chief Teachers Union commissar. And I really believe that
the chief villain of COVID, there were many the chief
villain of COVID is Faucci, but Randy Winegarden was right there.
You know, if she wasn't MAO, she was chew and lay.
(06:41):
She was the next up on the podium, or she
was somebody who was particularly destructive and dishonest.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But here she is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
She was on first Well. First of all, she goes
on Martha mccallums show and does something.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Martha's a nice legs, very very serious about what she does,
very professional in what she does. She did not appreciate
this is cut eight. Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
We know that money does not equate a better outcome
because in Newark, New Jersey, you have a per student,
per capita expenditure that is one of the highest in
the country, and you have actually very very different Martha.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Martha, sweetheart, sweetheart, listened to she does I'm sorry my bad.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Clay. First of all, I love Martha.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I love Martha the first Amendment, and Sweetheart, I was
just waiting for her to say it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I do.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I do that show with Martha every Friday. She's super smart.
I love her. What is Randy Winegarden thinking calling? I
don't know, sweetheart, that is just super First of all,
Randy Winegarden isn't a ninety year old man, right, So
in order for Martha McCollum to be like a sweetheart
to somebody.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's like a grandfatherly older figure. Right.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Randy Winegarden is in rough contemporary universe age with Martha.
Super weird answer there, and Martha is also really good
like on the fly. A lot of people worry about
what the response is gonna be. She just like comes
back immediately, so good for her. But what Martha's pointing
out there that Randy's trying to cut off is if
(08:18):
we just looked at pure per pupil expenditure, many Democrat
cities should have the greatest students of all time because
the amount of money that's being spent on public education
is legitimately off the charts if you compared as Martha
was just doing Newark, New Jersey with I bet per
(08:39):
pupil spending in North Dakota. And I was just with
the former governor of North Dakota, Doug Bergham, So I'm
usually gonna be on with this a little bit after one.
I had breakfast with him this morning in Franklin. I
bet that North Dakota spends a fraction of the dollar
per pupil that Newark, New Jersey does, and I bet
they get ten x the results. Right, So the idea
(08:59):
of hey, it's all money is what Martha is calling
into question. But then, Buck, have you looked at the
Supreme Court argument that happened yesterday, the books that they
are trying to defend reading to kindergarteners and first raders
in Montgomery County, Maryland, We need to read some of
what these titles were. They managed to unite Christians, Jews,
(09:22):
and muslim.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Parents, all of whom were like, what in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Is going on here that you're trying to teach? But
this is one of the other parts of this was
Randy Winingarten getting asked about this cut seven class.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Who's gay? Right, you have to figure out a way
to create a welcoming and safe environment. But if you
also have we also if you looked at that same conference,
we had tons of time on artificial intelligence, on career
tech ed. So what teachers have to do is we
have to embrace everything, everything that society throws at us.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
We have to deal with Buck. Look, it's crazy, it's always.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
First of all, they've tried this book banning thing for
a long time, which is just a lie. Right, if
you say you don't want copies of Playboy circulated among
grammar school kids. You're not banning Playboy, You're just saying
don't give it to kids, right, I mean, this is
pretty straightforward, and that's really what they're talking about, is
the content appropriate for children. No one is gathering, by
(10:28):
the way, these gross and often idiotic books, aside from
who they're being given to, and burning them in big
piles or something. But that's the propaganda that they try
to push with all of this stuff. But what we're
seeing here, I think is that the teachers' unions in
general are a malignant force when it comes to children's
education their futures. There should be no such thing as
(10:50):
public sector unions for teachers period. Every state should get
rid of them. I know the courts would try to
slow this down in places because it's such a source
of power and let's be honest, and money for adults
who don't want to have to deal with the accountability
that comes along with this. And I could tell a
longer version of this story, Clay. But you know one
thing that's that's getting attention right now is how we
(11:11):
need more kids in this country. Elon's talking about it.
We'll talk about it today.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
On the show.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We need more kids. And another thing is we need
more family formation. We need families to take more responsibility
and put less responsibility on the state. I know people
that went in, did you have anyone from who to
teach for America in your class coming out of GW.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Not my class, but Katie who is my personal assistant
now but initially was helping with the kids. She did
teach for America when she graduated from Florida State, which
is how she ended up in Nashville in the first place.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So, I mean my college girlfriend went in to teach
for America right out of you know, the sort of
my college sweetheart, I feel whatever, went into teach for America.
And I remember catching up with her years later. And
a very short version of some much more in depth
conversation is it doesn't really matter what the resources are
in the classroom. It doesn't matter how new the computers are,
(12:11):
how many administrative staff or hovering around outside the classroom.
It's which kids have parents who show up on Parent
teacher Day. That was the met And I've been told
this by numerous people in the system.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And you could say, look, obviously, if someone's mom gets
the flu, she can't come doesn't mean she's a bad mom.
But the point is the indicators that you can look at.
Are their parents at home? Do the parents care? Are
they involved?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes? Matters more than anything.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
These teachers' unions are going to squeeze out of the
taxpayer by orders of magnitude. But Randy Wingard will never
talk about that. Notice that she's just there to get
more money out of all of you. She's there to
talk about how it's for the children, just like it
wasn't for the children during COVID lockdowns. That was so
adults could sit at home and get paid their full
salary and do nothing. It's not about the children now
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so much so that you'll have them reading this.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Look.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Remember when Ron DeSantis showed what they.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Were trying to put in Florida schools, which he banned,
Thank you, Governor DeSantis, or you know, got kicked out
of the schools.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They couldn't show it on the Newsclay.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
If you can't show it on a news channel without
blurring it, why are you showing it to third graders
in school?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, it is and I pulled it up. We need
to go into some of the things that are being taught.
Even the left wing judges on the Supreme Court yesterday
seemed taken aback by the idea or remember, this is
something that has been building for some time. Florida passed
a law that said kindergartener for second third graders k
K to three should not be taught any kind of
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sex or gender ideology. I can't imagine a sane parent
listening to us right now that thinks that their kindergarten
to kindergarten to third grader needs to be taught sex
and gender related stories in public school. Frankly any school,
but certainly not public school. And again, the thing that's
(14:10):
wild about this is Muslim, Christian, Jewish parents in Montgomery
County all came together and said this is unacceptable. Why
in the world is this happening. We managed to do
the unbelievable and unite every religious group in common condemnation
of the absurdity of what their kids are being taught.
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I have a master's in education, worked at a high school,
did internships at various places. She was a guidance counselor
in the Williamson County area schools when we were having
our first couple of kids. It is one hundred percent
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will hear universally if you ask educators, the number one
most important ingredient to success at a school is how
involved are the parents across the board. If you told
me in a let's say, like a freshman high school
parent teacher day, that a black or Latino student had
(17:19):
both mom and dad show up for both parent teacher
days let's say first semester, second semester, and a white
kid with no parents show up for either one, and
you said, which one do I think is more likely
to graduate? I would go with a black or Latino
student one hundred times out of one hundred, and I
think the statistics would bear that out.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
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Speaker 1 (17:41):
With those factors in place, and you can change the races,
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It's the same story.
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
All right, welcome back into Clay and buck Clay is
sending me some of the actual examples here. At issue
with the Supreme Court on the books that are are
in schools, I just want to say I am. I
am generally militantly pro book. I think Clay is as well.
That's fair. I have yes, and I'm very pleased. I
(19:16):
don't think I mentioned this in the show. I actually
went to the Miami Beach Library and went to donate
a whole bunch. I had boxes of books that I
just don't have space for anymore. I try not to
keep soft covers. I know, I know, but you know
I don't have space, and they fall apart, so I
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(19:37):
donation is a huge Clay and buck listener. So Charlotte
really appreciate you listening. She was very pleased she was listening,
and it was great to see her. What I came in, Clay,
I thought she was gonna fall over for a second,
so it was really nice.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
She's like, you're here. I was like, yes, I am so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I love books and I think what they're doing there.
I think libraries are fabulous and super important, and I
I am all about if you can get your if
you can get your kids to start doing one thing
early in life as a habit. I don't know if
there's a better or more fundamental one, at least in
the realm of you know, activity, than reading. I agree,
(20:15):
whatever that is, just get them reading, Just get them reading.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'm I am an absolute evangelist on this. It's the
most important thing that my parents encourage me to do
when I was young. And it's just right, Clay. I
mean I think that that's you know, whether your kid
is good or not at geometry, I can speak from experience,
does not matter in his life. Okay, It doesn't matter
whether your kid reads.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Or not matters. It matters.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
My rule as a parent has been, if you will
read it, I will buy it for you. Now, my
kids have never tried to get me to buy I
don't know the you know, tontric sex you know for
you know say, they've never actually but it book that
a kid would want to read. That is a normal
book that a kid would read. I would buy for them,
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was my rule.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But to see, I just want to establish that because
you have two guys here who love truly like love.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But he writes books.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
My book, by the way, coming out this fall, all
ready to go. Publishers got it all lined up, so
it actually is happening. CIA finally cleared it. Some cool
stuff in there. We're gonna throw some book parties out there.
It's gonna be fun. Gotta do one in Nashville, so
you know, Clay can hang out. But there's gonna be
book parties and all that good stuff. But I just
wanted to say, do you have two guys here who
(21:33):
are I would say, are almost maniacal about pushing books
for it for everybody, adults, kids, everyone.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You gotta be reading, gotta be reading. Most important thing
as a.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Daily kid, get more sleep, read more, probably drink a
little less alcohol. Like this is the most important advice
that I think most people could hear. Okay with that
all said, Clay, you like movies. I like movies. We
talk about movies on the show. You like watching movies
with your kids? Are clearly movies that would be inappropriate
for and what your youngest boys?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Ten? Am I right? Ten? Yeah? Ten?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Ten?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah? Fourth grade?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
There are clearly movies that you would never dream of
sitting down with. And I'm not even just talking about
like adult movies, obviously, that's a whole other thing I'm
talking about. There are clearly movies you wouldn't watch with
one of your young boys. And it's not even conversation.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
NTV shows, And you all know it as parents. That's
why we have PGPG thirteen R rated movies. It's the
entire basis of helping parents to decide what's appropriate for
kids at different ages. And by the way, every kid's different.
Some kids may be ready for advanced material. I'd read
that earlier than others. Some people might do better with
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violence than not scary movies. All these things parents all
understand this, Buck listen to these two books.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I was gonna was gonna put this. Yes you can,
you can dive into There's so many of these. My
point is merely we do this all the time with
everything else. We should do it with grammar school kids
reading list goh th out some of the craziest ones
that are before the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
They just look.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
This is Montgomery County, Maryland. They just had a Supreme
Court case over this. This is a lot of Christian,
Jewish and Muslim parents said, we object to the story
time books that you are reading to our kindergarteners in
public schools.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
This is from the Wall Street Journal. Here are two
of them.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
My Rainbow is about an autistic child named Trinity who
says I need long hair because I'm a transgender girl.
It ends with a surprise gift from Trinity's mother, a teal,
pink and purple wig. It teaches my Rainbow does that
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sometimes doctors get biology gender sex wrong?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Kindergarteners?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Is this a book little like if you were buck in,
if you remember being in school, or maybe some of
you have gone and volunteered and read some.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Of these books to kids.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
This is like you used to read you know, the
Little Engine that could you know something like that. We
have something called the Dolly Parton Imagination Library here. Well,
they will send you all these books that are perfect
for three four five year old kids. They are not
particularly ideological in any way. It's just green eggs and
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ham right, it's Doctor Seuss, it's the Cat and the Hat,
it's the Little Engine that could. All of these books
good Night Moon that you may have shown up and
read to kids of all different groups at some point
in time. I just wanted to note that with COVID
it was how dare you question doctors or think that
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doctors could get anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But it is baked into the gender ideology stuff. Now
that a doctor can get it wrong when he looks
at a baby's genitals and determines gender at birth. Yes,
think about how insane that is. They're saying that doctors
get They're not saying that there's not oh you know,
it's impossible for doctors to know. They're saying the doctor
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gets it wrong, which they.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Will interrupted to teach buck Here is directly from what
teachers in Montgomery County were instructed to teach kindergartener's first graders.
If a child suggests it's weird to say a girl
can become a boy. I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal.
The proposed response is to say that comment is hurtful
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and that when each of us is born quote, people
make a guess about our gender. Kindergarten, first grade, second grade.
Here's another one, Buck born Ready, is about Penelope, who
tells her mother, I don't feel like a boy. I
am a boy. After this single discussion, the mother answers
(25:56):
with unquestioning affirmation, Yes, we will make a plan to
tell everyone we love. This is crazy town, Buck, I mean,
legit insane. When I read this, even as a parent,
I couldn't believe that any kid would be exposed to
this in a school.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And I think this is so important because you see
this time and again when you're dealing with the left
on especially anything having to do with indoctrination, uh, in
the schools and specifically of young of young people, people
whose minds are being molded by the adults in their
in their world, the environment around them, uh Clay.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
They're being they're.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Being First of all, they're being told us what happens
if Penelope wakes up the next day and says no,
I'm actually a girl, right.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Flip back, I don't know. Yeah, you have told anybody
that you're now a girl again.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
The the notion that the affirmation cannot be switched is
simply insane.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And here's the other part of this. They want want
this to be taught. It's not like we have shown this.
We have exposed this, and the Democrats, the left, the
gender ideologues out there have said, oh wow, I didn't
realize it was like this. You're right, let's make some
adjustments to this, Clay. This is a hill that they
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will die on over and over again. So ask yourself,
why is it so important to them? They try to
put the burden on us. Why are you banning books
in schools? Which is a lie. No one's banning books.
We're limiting the reading list or the library list for
young children the same way, Clay, you limit movies for
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your kids, the same way I will limit for my son.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What move?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know when he's eight years old, We're not going
to be sitting there watching Terminator one together. Like that's
not gonna happen. Okay, they are the one. Why is
it so important to them? And I don't ask that
question Clay just rhetorically, they clearly think that this is
a means of locking in this belief into the broader
population so that it's not a ninety ten issue in
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ten years, in twenty years, so that they can get
closer to having the apparatus of the state mandate this insanity.
And it's also a function of you're setting these kids
up for a great deal of difficulty in the years ahead.
(28:27):
The same people who are screaming that sciences under attack
are simultaneously telling you that doctors get baby genders wrong.
And you know how impressionable young kids are if you
raise young kids. The reason, to your point buck that
(28:48):
they want five, six and seven year olds being exposed
to these kind of stories is because they're desperately trying
to make sense of the world around them, and their
minds are so incredible impressionable. And I just I think
Republicans have done a really poor job responding on this
issue because you hit on the attack. It's oh, they're
(29:10):
trying to ban books, and we could have arguments about
reasonable I mean, parent arguments about at what age is
it appropriate to read certain aggressively sexual works?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Is it sixteen? Is it fourteen? Is it eighteen? Is
like in the same way that we can talk about
what age movies are appropriate?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Can I just what you see, though, Clay, is that
these are suggested reading lists. It's even more you see
what I mean, he's a pronicious book.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
This is beyond that they're actually reading them to the
kids in story time.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
This is exactly what I mean, mandate. It's not crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's not even we have to stop kids as they
get older from stumbling upon this. It is this must
be read to children as a function of school policy
at the youngest possible age. Why does this matter to
them so much? It's a little bit like why do
we have to have men dressed as women doing drag
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queen story hour for kids that they don't.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Do this for adults.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Why are they always doing Why is it always for
the little And by the way, they don't do it for.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
High school or college kids.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Because I'll tell you, when I was in high school,
if some guy showed up and was like, I'm really
a woman, I'd be like, no, you're not. So why
are they doing this to little kids? There's something very
dark and very wrong that's going on here. And I
will just say it and.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
First of all, Randy Winegarden, who's supposed to be the
old grandma who cares about the kids so much, she
totally defends this. She's all on board for this. Think
about that. This is the mainstream education apparatus pushing this nonsense.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And this is something where even if you're not like
I'm not a parent who's ever objected to anything that
my kids have read into and I feel very fortunate.
I love the public schools that my kids have gone to.
I've got one in public school right now, and I've
never objected to anything that my older kids have been
asked to read. I appreciate the schools that they are
in now. I've got no issues with my kids schools
(31:16):
at all. But if I had a kindergartener, first grade,
or second grader, third grader, he I mean, this is
crazy town. I would object to them being forced to
sit and watch a teacher read books like this to them.
And I don't know buck that. Again, we have the
Dolly Parton Imagination Library here. I have read a ton
(31:37):
of kids books to my kids over the years, and they,
unfortunately read at least two of them of the.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Three are willing willing to read.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
But I can't imagine that there are thousands of books
that would be great for a kindergarten teacher to read
to kids that has nothing to do with any particular
political slant, that has nothing to do with anything anything
other than encouraging them to like stories and like reading
(32:10):
and maybe also build up their toughness a little bit
like the little engine that could. Hey, if I think
I can do something, I can, right, this is wild.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis bought Sexton Show. I appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through
the Wednesday edition of the program. Want you to all
go get some Crocket coffee right now. I started off
my day with some Crocket coffee and then I went
and met Douggham, who is our Secretary of the Interior.
We had a good breakfast this morning in Franklin, Tennessee,
(34:06):
thanks to puckets there. They said they enjoy the show Buck,
so it was good to meet some listeners this morning.
Brian Urlater was a big listener, and Doug Burgham is
going to be on with us next to talk about
some of the things that he is doing as the
Secretary of the Interior, including I believe tomorrow they are
going to officially rename a park in the honor of
(34:30):
Joscelyn Hungary and also the battles that he is fighting
to try and increase oil and gas production around the nation.
With his background in North Dakota certainly, which is an
energy producing state as well, all that should be really entertaining.
Can't wait to dive into that with him, should be
really fantastic. A lot of reaction coming in from many
(34:53):
of you out there parents. I shared that editorial from
the Wall Street Journal that I was just reading from
if you want to see that for yourselves, and I
think Buck, this is one thing that COVID has created
is many parents have gotten far more involved in the
curriculum because they became aware through remote schooling of what
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their kids were actually being taught. It was one of
the best silver lining outcomes of the whole COVID mess
was parents all of a sudden recognize what their kids
were being taught in school because they were being taught
at all of a sudden in the home. So there
were some good things that remote work being a little
(35:35):
bit more possible for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But yeah, that was I think a particularly worthwhile outcome.
But the stuff that they're teaching these kids, I cannot imagine.
Can you mentione sitting down with an administrator at the
school that your kids go to, Clay and having them
look in the eyes and say, yeah, I think we
need to have this bondage book on the list that
(36:00):
you know your twelve year old or your ten year
old is read, Like that's this is crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, I know, I can't because thankfully I have great
public schools, and we have great public school administrators by
and large where we are. But I mean, I even
think it's one thing to have books on the shelves.
It's another thing entirely to have teachers in story time
sitting there on their little they're endorsing it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
They're endorsing the books.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Showing the pictures and reading that for the kids, Like
that's a limited amount of time you have to read stories.
This is just nasty on a level that I read it,
Buck and I just thought, this is this is really evil,
and we got to get more involved in parents as
parents to keep this from happening.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I think anyway,
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Klay, Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. We got a lot to dive
into with all of you. Thank you so much for
rolling with us.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We've got let.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Me see here, Trump's economy more coming out on the
trade deals. Trump attach said it's gonna be very He's
gonna be very nice to China.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We'll see how long that lasts.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Is he gonna be nice to China's It's a head fake?
What's going on here? Trump is being Trump Tom Holman
laying down the law here. You know, I have borderline
Homan Man crush. This is a guy who is essential
to the future of the Republic, who knows his portfolio
as well as anybody, and who is just doing a
(00:45):
fantastic job for the Trump administration. And he is not
going to abide any nonsense when it comes to the
efforts to sabotage a deportation efforts and the whole a
break Garcia martyrdom industrial complex that is going on right now.
(01:06):
We're not going to allow that to just go or
he's not going to allow that to just be a
thing where they turn this guy into a symbol.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Elon Musk weighing it again.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Rough rough period here for a Tesla profits Elon's going
to be heading back. I think pretty soon he's going
to be going back to focusing on what it is
that he needs to be doing, which is other than doge,
which is running some of the most important and innovative
companies in the world. Markets, just making sure nothing's changed
(01:37):
since our last check. Market's looking pretty good. Do you
ever look at I can you know how I can
tell guys Clay's Clay's pretty cool as a cute cover
right now. You know, if I come in here, the
market's down twelve hundred points. Clay has this look on
his face. He's not a happy camper about it, because
you know, he's got to manage the Clay, the Clay folio,
the portfolio of all things Clay, and he does not
(01:58):
like it when that market is getting crushed. But let's
have some fun with something else for a moment here,
because you know, we had on yesterday David's wig and
I know, you know, look talking COVID, some of you
are like, oh, we have to move on. You see
what's going on right now is the Democrats are having
to exercise the demons from within a bit here. They're
(02:21):
having to at least go through a process of the
whole Biden dementia cover up. What was that all about?
Are they really going to keep pushing on this trans stuff?
I think the answer is yes, by the way, but
they're at least looking around saying, how do we win
on an eighty twenty maybe ninety ten issue nationally? And
(02:42):
then you also have, by the way, Clay, I just
one thing I would throw out there. If we had
a different Supreme Court. I know this is I'm weaving here, everybody,
but weave with me. If we had a different Supreme Court,
you would have the trans agenda would have been mandated
the same way Roe v.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Wade was.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I truly believe that if Trump loses and we have
a different Supreme Court makeup, you have a dick tot
from the court years ago saying that you know you
have to I actually think that could have happened, as
crazy as that may sound now because we have a
more sane court. But on the COVID thing, we had
Zwagon yesterday and we were talking to him about the
(03:20):
school shutdowns, which is I know, Clay, this is tough,
so many of it. What is the thing that gets
you the angriest. And we're gonna Randy Winingarden's out there.
I'm gonna tie this into the news cycle here today
in just a moment, everyone, What is the COVID thing
that at this point takes you off the most? I
(03:41):
still think the lab leak for our people, for our side,
the lie about the lab leak is the one that
gets them the most aggravated.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
What is it for you?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's still that kids weren't able to go to school
for almost two years, and and honestly, I thought David's
wig yesterday really kind of brought in hell. But I've
tried to hammer this as well. The kids that were
the most disadvantaged during COVID were the ones that had
the least privilege and the least opportunity in the first place.
(04:11):
Because if you're Gavin Newsom's kids, he puts you in
a private school even while all the public schools are
shut down, and his kids are getting an elite education.
If you are wealthy enough to have private tutors, if
you are fortunate enough to have had parents who could
be involved in your education because they weren't having to
go to work. To try to make sure that you
(04:33):
had a roof over your head. Then COVID was not ideal,
but you were able to make through it, potentially even thrive.
I've said this before, but he was I guess ten
at the time when COVID happened. My ten year old.
When twenty twenty ended, remember how everybody was celebrating ball
drops and they're like, boy, I'm so glad twenty twenty's over.
(04:54):
He was like, no, dad, twenty twenty was the best
year ever. And I said, well, what do you mean
And he said, Dad, we got out of school and
didn't have to go back in March. You know, if
you're a kid, one snow day is a big deal.
They basically got two months of snow days. And he said,
and this was I thought, really kind of touching. He
was like, you and mom were home all the time,
(05:16):
Like you weren't. I wasn't traveling very much for work.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So, for a lot of young kids, if you were
fortunate enough to have parents who were able to be
around the household, they came through it fine. They might
have even thrived. But on the other hand, if your
mom or your dad or you're a single parent household
and they're having to bust their ass to try to
make sure that you're taken care of. And they don't
have quote, non essential jobs where they get to eat
(05:39):
Cheetos and watch Netflix from home and order door Dash.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
If you don't have all.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Those opportunities, then you might not have had Wi Fi
at home, You didn't have any real educational environments surrounding you,
you had.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
No support structure.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
We threw the least disadvantaged, the kids who needed school
in person the most to the wolves, and unfortunately we're reaping.
I think the consequences of that awful decision, and a
big part of it was Randy Winegarden, who is still
trying to claim, and I think it's important to hold
these people accountable that she had nothing to do with
(06:15):
why schools didn't reopen. And it's a lie, and it's
a really nasty lie.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, it's it's a Soviet style rewriting of history by
the Chief Teachers Union commissar. And I really believe that
the chief villain of COVID, there were many the chief
villain of COVID is Faucci, but Randy Winegarden was right there.
You know, if she wasn't MAO, she was chew and lay.
(06:41):
She was the next up on the podium, or she
was somebody who was particularly destructive and dishonest.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But here she is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
She was on first Well. First of all, she goes
on Martha mccallums show and does something.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Martha's a nice legs, very very serious about what she does,
very professional in what she does. She did not appreciate
this is cut eight. Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
We know that money does not equate a better outcome
because in Newark, New Jersey, you have a per student,
per capita expenditure that is one of the highest in
the country, and you have actually very very different Martha.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Martha, sweetheart, sweetheart, listened to she does I'm sorry my bad.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Clay. First of all, I love Martha.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I love Martha the first Amendment, and Sweetheart, I was
just waiting for her to say it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I do.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I do that show with Martha every Friday. She's super smart.
I love her. What is Randy Winegarden thinking calling? I
don't know, sweetheart, that is just super First of all,
Randy Winegarden isn't a ninety year old man, right, So
in order for Martha McCollum to be like a sweetheart
to somebody.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's like a grandfatherly older figure. Right.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Randy Winegarden is in rough contemporary universe age with Martha.
Super weird answer there, and Martha is also really good
like on the fly. A lot of people worry about
what the response is gonna be. She just like comes
back immediately, so good for her. But what Martha's pointing
out there that Randy's trying to cut off is if
(08:18):
we just looked at pure per pupil expenditure, many Democrat
cities should have the greatest students of all time because
the amount of money that's being spent on public education
is legitimately off the charts if you compared as Martha
was just doing Newark, New Jersey with I bet per
(08:39):
pupil spending in North Dakota. And I was just with
the former governor of North Dakota, Doug Bergham, So I'm
usually gonna be on with this a little bit after one.
I had breakfast with him this morning in Franklin. I
bet that North Dakota spends a fraction of the dollar
per pupil that Newark, New Jersey does, and I bet
they get ten x the results. Right, So the idea
(08:59):
of hey, it's all money is what Martha is calling
into question. But then, Buck, have you looked at the
Supreme Court argument that happened yesterday, the books that they
are trying to defend reading to kindergarteners and first raders
in Montgomery County, Maryland, We need to read some of
what these titles were. They managed to unite Christians, Jews,
(09:22):
and muslim.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Parents, all of whom were like, what in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Is going on here that you're trying to teach? But
this is one of the other parts of this was
Randy Winingarten getting asked about this cut seven class.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Who's gay? Right, you have to figure out a way
to create a welcoming and safe environment. But if you
also have we also if you looked at that same conference,
we had tons of time on artificial intelligence, on career
tech ed. So what teachers have to do is we
have to embrace everything, everything that society throws at us.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
We have to deal with Buck. Look, it's crazy, it's always.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
First of all, they've tried this book banning thing for
a long time, which is just a lie. Right, if
you say you don't want copies of Playboy circulated among
grammar school kids. You're not banning Playboy, You're just saying
don't give it to kids, right, I mean, this is
pretty straightforward, and that's really what they're talking about, is
the content appropriate for children. No one is gathering, by
(10:28):
the way, these gross and often idiotic books, aside from
who they're being given to, and burning them in big
piles or something. But that's the propaganda that they try
to push with all of this stuff. But what we're
seeing here, I think is that the teachers' unions in
general are a malignant force when it comes to children's
education their futures. There should be no such thing as
(10:50):
public sector unions for teachers period. Every state should get
rid of them. I know the courts would try to
slow this down in places because it's such a source
of power and let's be honest, and money for adults
who don't want to have to deal with the accountability
that comes along with this. And I could tell a
longer version of this story, Clay. But you know one
thing that's that's getting attention right now is how we
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need more kids in this country. Elon's talking about it.
We'll talk about it today.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
On the show.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We need more kids. And another thing is we need
more family formation. We need families to take more responsibility
and put less responsibility on the state. I know people
that went in, did you have anyone from who to
teach for America in your class coming out of GW.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Not my class, but Katie who is my personal assistant
now but initially was helping with the kids. She did
teach for America when she graduated from Florida State, which
is how she ended up in Nashville in the first place.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So, I mean my college girlfriend went in to teach
for America right out of you know, the sort of
my college sweetheart, I feel whatever, went into teach for America.
And I remember catching up with her years later. And
a very short version of some much more in depth
conversation is it doesn't really matter what the resources are
in the classroom. It doesn't matter how new the computers are,
(12:11):
how many administrative staff or hovering around outside the classroom.
It's which kids have parents who show up on Parent
teacher Day. That was the met And I've been told
this by numerous people in the system.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And you could say, look, obviously, if someone's mom gets
the flu, she can't come doesn't mean she's a bad mom.
But the point is the indicators that you can look at.
Are their parents at home? Do the parents care? Are
they involved?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes? Matters more than anything.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
These teachers' unions are going to squeeze out of the
taxpayer by orders of magnitude. But Randy Wingard will never
talk about that. Notice that she's just there to get
more money out of all of you. She's there to
talk about how it's for the children, just like it
wasn't for the children during COVID lockdowns. That was so
adults could sit at home and get paid their full
salary and do nothing. It's not about the children now
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so much so that you'll have them reading this.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Look.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Remember when Ron DeSantis showed what they.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Were trying to put in Florida schools, which he banned,
Thank you, Governor DeSantis, or you know, got kicked out
of the schools.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They couldn't show it on the Newsclay.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
If you can't show it on a news channel without
blurring it, why are you showing it to third graders
in school?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, it is and I pulled it up. We need
to go into some of the things that are being taught.
Even the left wing judges on the Supreme Court yesterday
seemed taken aback by the idea or remember, this is
something that has been building for some time. Florida passed
a law that said kindergartener for second third graders k
K to three should not be taught any kind of
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sex or gender ideology. I can't imagine a sane parent
listening to us right now that thinks that their kindergarten
to kindergarten to third grader needs to be taught sex
and gender related stories in public school. Frankly any school,
but certainly not public school. And again, the thing that's
(14:10):
wild about this is Muslim, Christian, Jewish parents in Montgomery
County all came together and said this is unacceptable. Why
in the world is this happening. We managed to do
the unbelievable and unite every religious group in common condemnation
of the absurdity of what their kids are being taught.
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Speaker 2 (16:31):
Buck is one hundred percent right.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I have a master's in education, worked at a high school,
did internships at various places. She was a guidance counselor
in the Williamson County area schools when we were having
our first couple of kids. It is one hundred percent
the families and the parent involvement that makes or breaks
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a school. And I think that is something that you
will hear universally if you ask educators, the number one
most important ingredient to success at a school is how
involved are the parents across the board. If you told
me in a let's say, like a freshman high school
parent teacher day, that a black or Latino student had
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both mom and dad show up for both parent teacher
days let's say first semester, second semester, and a white
kid with no parents show up for either one, and
you said, which one do I think is more likely
to graduate? I would go with a black or Latino
student one hundred times out of one hundred, and I
think the statistics would bear that out.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Again.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
With those factors in place, and you can change the races,
you can change the socioeconomics.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's the same story.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and buck Clay is
sending me some of the actual examples here. At issue
with the Supreme Court on the books that are are
in schools, I just want to say I am. I
am generally militantly pro book. I think Clay is as well.
That's fair. I have yes, and I'm very pleased. I
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don't think I mentioned this in the show. I actually
went to the Miami Beach Library and went to donate
a whole bunch. I had boxes of books that I
just don't have space for anymore. I try not to
keep soft covers. I know, I know, but you know
I don't have space, and they fall apart, so I
don't it. And the woman in charge of receiving the
(19:37):
donation is a huge Clay and buck listener. So Charlotte
really appreciate you listening. She was very pleased she was listening,
and it was great to see her. What I came in, Clay,
I thought she was gonna fall over for a second,
so it was really nice.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
She's like, you're here. I was like, yes, I am so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I love books and I think what they're doing there.
I think libraries are fabulous and super important, and I
I am all about if you can get your if
you can get your kids to start doing one thing
early in life as a habit. I don't know if
there's a better or more fundamental one, at least in
the realm of you know, activity, than reading. I agree,
(20:15):
whatever that is, just get them reading, Just get them reading.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'm I am an absolute evangelist on this. It's the
most important thing that my parents encourage me to do
when I was young. And it's just right, Clay. I
mean I think that that's you know, whether your kid
is good or not at geometry, I can speak from experience,
does not matter in his life. Okay, It doesn't matter
whether your kid reads.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Or not matters. It matters.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
My rule as a parent has been, if you will
read it, I will buy it for you. Now, my
kids have never tried to get me to buy I
don't know the you know, tontric sex you know for
you know say, they've never actually but it book that
a kid would want to read. That is a normal
book that a kid would read. I would buy for them,
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was my rule.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But to see, I just want to establish that because
you have two guys here who love truly like love.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But he writes books.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
My book, by the way, coming out this fall, all
ready to go. Publishers got it all lined up, so
it actually is happening. CIA finally cleared it. Some cool
stuff in there. We're gonna throw some book parties out there.
It's gonna be fun. Gotta do one in Nashville, so
you know, Clay can hang out. But there's gonna be
book parties and all that good stuff. But I just
wanted to say, do you have two guys here who
(21:33):
are I would say, are almost maniacal about pushing books
for it for everybody, adults, kids, everyone.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You gotta be reading, gotta be reading. Most important thing
as a.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Daily kid, get more sleep, read more, probably drink a
little less alcohol. Like this is the most important advice
that I think most people could hear. Okay with that
all said, Clay, you like movies. I like movies. We
talk about movies on the show. You like watching movies
with your kids? Are clearly movies that would be inappropriate
for and what your youngest boys?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Ten? Am I right? Ten? Yeah? Ten?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Ten?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah? Fourth grade?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
There are clearly movies that you would never dream of
sitting down with. And I'm not even just talking about
like adult movies, obviously, that's a whole other thing I'm
talking about. There are clearly movies you wouldn't watch with
one of your young boys. And it's not even conversation.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
NTV shows, And you all know it as parents. That's
why we have PGPG thirteen R rated movies. It's the
entire basis of helping parents to decide what's appropriate for
kids at different ages. And by the way, every kid's different.
Some kids may be ready for advanced material. I'd read
that earlier than others. Some people might do better with
(22:41):
violence than not scary movies. All these things parents all
understand this, Buck listen to these two books.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I was gonna was gonna put this. Yes you can,
you can dive into There's so many of these. My
point is merely we do this all the time with
everything else. We should do it with grammar school kids
reading list goh th out some of the craziest ones
that are before the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
They just look.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
This is Montgomery County, Maryland. They just had a Supreme
Court case over this. This is a lot of Christian,
Jewish and Muslim parents said, we object to the story
time books that you are reading to our kindergarteners in
public schools.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
This is from the Wall Street Journal. Here are two
of them.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
My Rainbow is about an autistic child named Trinity who
says I need long hair because I'm a transgender girl.
It ends with a surprise gift from Trinity's mother, a teal,
pink and purple wig. It teaches my Rainbow does that
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sometimes doctors get biology gender sex wrong?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Kindergarteners?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Is this a book little like if you were buck in,
if you remember being in school, or maybe some of
you have gone and volunteered and read some.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Of these books to kids.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
This is like you used to read you know, the
Little Engine that could you know something like that. We
have something called the Dolly Parton Imagination Library here. Well,
they will send you all these books that are perfect
for three four five year old kids. They are not
particularly ideological in any way. It's just green eggs and
(24:23):
ham right, it's Doctor Seuss, it's the Cat and the Hat,
it's the Little Engine that could. All of these books
good Night Moon that you may have shown up and
read to kids of all different groups at some point
in time. I just wanted to note that with COVID
it was how dare you question doctors or think that
(24:46):
doctors could get anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But it is baked into the gender ideology stuff. Now
that a doctor can get it wrong when he looks
at a baby's genitals and determines gender at birth. Yes,
think about how insane that is. They're saying that doctors
get They're not saying that there's not oh you know,
it's impossible for doctors to know. They're saying the doctor
(25:09):
gets it wrong, which they.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Will interrupted to teach buck Here is directly from what
teachers in Montgomery County were instructed to teach kindergartener's first graders.
If a child suggests it's weird to say a girl
can become a boy. I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal.
The proposed response is to say that comment is hurtful
(25:33):
and that when each of us is born quote, people
make a guess about our gender. Kindergarten, first grade, second grade.
Here's another one, Buck born Ready, is about Penelope, who
tells her mother, I don't feel like a boy. I
am a boy. After this single discussion, the mother answers
(25:56):
with unquestioning affirmation, Yes, we will make a plan to
tell everyone we love. This is crazy town, Buck, I mean,
legit insane. When I read this, even as a parent,
I couldn't believe that any kid would be exposed to
this in a school.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And I think this is so important because you see
this time and again when you're dealing with the left
on especially anything having to do with indoctrination, uh, in
the schools and specifically of young of young people, people
whose minds are being molded by the adults in their
in their world, the environment around them, uh Clay.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
They're being they're.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Being First of all, they're being told us what happens
if Penelope wakes up the next day and says no,
I'm actually a girl, right.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Flip back, I don't know. Yeah, you have told anybody
that you're now a girl again.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
The the notion that the affirmation cannot be switched is
simply insane.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And here's the other part of this. They want want
this to be taught. It's not like we have shown this.
We have exposed this, and the Democrats, the left, the
gender ideologues out there have said, oh wow, I didn't
realize it was like this. You're right, let's make some
adjustments to this, Clay. This is a hill that they
(27:19):
will die on over and over again. So ask yourself,
why is it so important to them? They try to
put the burden on us. Why are you banning books
in schools? Which is a lie. No one's banning books.
We're limiting the reading list or the library list for
young children the same way, Clay, you limit movies for
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your kids, the same way I will limit for my son.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What move?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know when he's eight years old, We're not going
to be sitting there watching Terminator one together. Like that's
not gonna happen. Okay, they are the one. Why is
it so important to them? And I don't ask that
question Clay just rhetorically, they clearly think that this is
a means of locking in this belief into the broader
population so that it's not a ninety ten issue in
(28:06):
ten years, in twenty years, so that they can get
closer to having the apparatus of the state mandate this insanity.
And it's also a function of you're setting these kids
up for a great deal of difficulty in the years ahead.
(28:27):
The same people who are screaming that sciences under attack
are simultaneously telling you that doctors get baby genders wrong.
And you know how impressionable young kids are if you
raise young kids. The reason, to your point buck that
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they want five, six and seven year olds being exposed
to these kind of stories is because they're desperately trying
to make sense of the world around them, and their
minds are so incredible impressionable. And I just I think
Republicans have done a really poor job responding on this
issue because you hit on the attack. It's oh, they're
(29:10):
trying to ban books, and we could have arguments about
reasonable I mean, parent arguments about at what age is
it appropriate to read certain aggressively sexual works?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Is it sixteen? Is it fourteen? Is it eighteen? Is
like in the same way that we can talk about
what age movies are appropriate?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Can I just what you see, though, Clay, is that
these are suggested reading lists. It's even more you see
what I mean, he's a pronicious book.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
This is beyond that they're actually reading them to the
kids in story time.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
This is exactly what I mean, mandate. It's not crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's not even we have to stop kids as they
get older from stumbling upon this. It is this must
be read to children as a function of school policy
at the youngest possible age. Why does this matter to
them so much? It's a little bit like why do
we have to have men dressed as women doing drag
(30:15):
queen story hour for kids that they don't.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Do this for adults.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Why are they always doing Why is it always for
the little And by the way, they don't do it for.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
High school or college kids.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Because I'll tell you, when I was in high school,
if some guy showed up and was like, I'm really
a woman, I'd be like, no, you're not. So why
are they doing this to little kids? There's something very
dark and very wrong that's going on here. And I
will just say it and.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
First of all, Randy Winegarden, who's supposed to be the
old grandma who cares about the kids so much, she
totally defends this. She's all on board for this. Think
about that. This is the mainstream education apparatus pushing this nonsense.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And this is something where even if you're not like
I'm not a parent who's ever objected to anything that
my kids have read into and I feel very fortunate.
I love the public schools that my kids have gone to.
I've got one in public school right now, and I've
never objected to anything that my older kids have been
asked to read. I appreciate the schools that they are
in now. I've got no issues with my kids schools
(31:16):
at all. But if I had a kindergartener, first grade,
or second grader, third grader, he I mean, this is
crazy town. I would object to them being forced to
sit and watch a teacher read books like this to them.
And I don't know buck that. Again, we have the
Dolly Parton Imagination Library here. I have read a ton
(31:37):
of kids books to my kids over the years, and they,
unfortunately read at least two of them of the.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Three are willing willing to read.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
But I can't imagine that there are thousands of books
that would be great for a kindergarten teacher to read
to kids that has nothing to do with any particular
political slant, that has nothing to do with anything anything
other than encouraging them to like stories and like reading
(32:10):
and maybe also build up their toughness a little bit
like the little engine that could. Hey, if I think
I can do something, I can, right, this is wild.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis bought Sexton Show. I appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through
the Wednesday edition of the program. Want you to all
go get some Crocket coffee right now. I started off
my day with some Crocket coffee and then I went
and met Douggham, who is our Secretary of the Interior.
We had a good breakfast this morning in Franklin, Tennessee,
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thanks to puckets there. They said they enjoy the show Buck,
so it was good to meet some listeners this morning.
Brian Urlater was a big listener, and Doug Burgham is
going to be on with us next to talk about
some of the things that he is doing as the
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Joscelyn Hungary and also the battles that he is fighting
to try and increase oil and gas production around the nation.
With his background in North Dakota certainly, which is an
energy producing state as well, all that should be really entertaining.
Can't wait to dive into that with him, should be
really fantastic. A lot of reaction coming in from many
(34:53):
of you out there parents. I shared that editorial from
the Wall Street Journal that I was just reading from
if you want to see that for yourselves, and I
think Buck, this is one thing that COVID has created
is many parents have gotten far more involved in the
curriculum because they became aware through remote schooling of what
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their kids were actually being taught. It was one of
the best silver lining outcomes of the whole COVID mess
was parents all of a sudden recognize what their kids
were being taught in school because they were being taught
at all of a sudden in the home. So there
were some good things that remote work being a little
(35:35):
bit more possible for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But yeah, that was I think a particularly worthwhile outcome.
But the stuff that they're teaching these kids, I cannot imagine.
Can you mentione sitting down with an administrator at the
school that your kids go to, Clay and having them
look in the eyes and say, yeah, I think we
need to have this bondage book on the list that
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you know your twelve year old or your ten year
old is read, Like that's this is crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, I know, I can't because thankfully I have great
public schools, and we have great public school administrators by
and large where we are. But I mean, I even
think it's one thing to have books on the shelves.
It's another thing entirely to have teachers in story time
sitting there on their little they're endorsing it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
They're endorsing the books.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Showing the pictures and reading that for the kids, Like
that's a limited amount of time you have to read stories.
This is just nasty on a level that I read it,
Buck and I just thought, this is this is really evil,
and we got to get more involved in parents as
parents to keep this from happening.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I think anyway,
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