April 30, 2025 • 60 mins
Vintage Trump
In hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts kick off the hour by addressing the latest political developments, including the contentious Trump versus ABC News interview. The conversation highlights Trump's criticism of the legacy media, particularly ABC, for not covering President Biden's perceived senility. This segment emphasizes Trump's direct and confrontational style, which resonates with his supporters.
The hosts then shift to discussing House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries' directive to his caucus to avoid trips to El Salvador, in light of the Kilmar Abrego Garcia story. This narrative explores the political fallout and the implications for the Democratic Party as more details about Garcia's background emerge.
Capitalist Elon
In hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts delve into a range of significant and engaging topics. They begin by discussing the ongoing cabinet meeting at the White House, highlighting the contributions of key figures such as Interior Secretary Doug Burgum and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. The presence of Elon Musk at the meeting is also noted, with Musk praising the Trump administration's achievements in its first 100 days, particularly in areas like secure borders, safe cities, and sensible spending.
Male Voters
Clay and Buck analyze comments made by Minnesota Governor Tim Walz at Harvard University. Walz claimed he was chosen for the Democratic ticket to appeal to white football fans and truck enthusiasts, a strategy the hosts critique for its condescending and ineffective approach. They discuss the broader implications of the Democratic Party's struggle to connect with male voters, noting that the party has not won the majority of male voters since 1964.
TN Sen. Marsha Blackburn
The hosts also delve into the topic of AI chatbots and their interactions with minors, highlighting concerns about sexually explicit content. Senator Marsha Blackburn joins the show to discuss her efforts to address this issue through legislation, emphasizing the need for safeguards to protect children online.
Additionally, the hour includes a discussion on the economic impact of tariffs and the importance of investing in America. Senator Blackburn shares insights on the significant investments made in Tennessee and the broader implications for the U.S. economy.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, well, come in. We are having a great Wednesday
wherever you may be across the country. Encourage you to
go download the podcast. Make sure you don't miss a moment.
We've got a fun show headed your way. Trump versus ABC.
We're going to have some fun breaking that down for you.
I don't know if you've seen this report yet, Buck,
(00:21):
but I definitely love it. House Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries
has supposedly told his entire caucus no more trips to
El Salvador. As the Abraio Garcia story has begun to
blow up in Democrats faces, more and more details coming
out about how crazy that story is. The New York
(00:43):
Times has discovered a brand new hot trend that they
had no idea. What's going on? People, Buck are wearing
cross necklaces and The New York Times has a style
section expos A diving into this new hot trend which
has existed for hundreds of years. And some of these
(01:05):
people Christians good hell. I just I think sometimes when
I see the stories like the New York Times had
a story recently, I don't know if you saw it, Buck,
where it said like Beyonce makes the cowboy hat matter
and I was like, Oh, that's really interesting, because I've
known the cowboy hat being pretty popular for a long time.
(01:25):
I don't know that I saw Beyonce as the person
who made the cowboy hat relevant. But these are the
kinds of things that sometimes you will read if you
do as I do, start your day every morning by
seeing what the New York Times has put out there. Okay,
we got a bunch of different stories to dive into.
But I thought vined Trump last night as the ABC
(01:49):
News one hundred Day interview just ricocheted around the internet.
I saw you were sharing parts of it, Buck, I
saw it. This is Terry Moran, I believe is his name.
And Trump really kind of had had fun with the
fact that nobody really knows who this guy is several
different times. But I thought, really, the one that was
(02:12):
the punchiest and echoed the most around the country was
when he called out ABC as being a part of
the legacy media cabal that refused to cover Joe Biden's sinility.
Here is cut three. This has gone megaviral.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presidence?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
No, I think it's.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Gone way up and I think we're a respected country. Again,
we were left at all over the world. We had
a president that couldn't walk up a flight of stairs,
couldn't walk down a flight of stairs, couldn't walk across
the stage without falling. We had a president that was
grossly incompetent. You knew it. I knew it, and everybody
knew it, but you guys didn't want to write it
because you're fake news.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
By the way, ABC is one of the worst. I
have to be honest.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, thank you right to his face. I mean, he
nailed it. And people say, okay, why is this a
story now? Well, we just had the White House correspondence
dinner where all of the media are basically trying to
self flagellate now and say, oh, how could we have known?
How could we have missed a story like this? And
Jake Tapper's got a book that's coming out suddenly talking
(03:21):
about how awful Biden is? Did you see the audience
response on that was do not have that guy on
the sacred airwaves? So we got we got to talk
about this, we got to do an off. We should
have I think we should have him on because the
number one thing that actually I think echoes. So I
appreciate the fact that people who listen on a regular
(03:43):
Just to be clear, you're saying you want to put
the brass knuckles on Clay. This is shocking everybody in
the audience. Yes, yeah, Well look, I think that what
I see echoing on a regular basis across the Information
super Highway aka the Internet and on all the social
media platforms is holding people accountable actually matters, and there's
(04:05):
a desperate desire for it. And so I think we
should have Jake Tapper on and hold him accountable for
the lies that he has helped to spread while lecturing
everyone about the truth that he is telling. And he's
very slippery. He's gonna come on, he's gonna start dropping
some knowledge about some SEC teams. He's gonna say, you know, Clay,
(04:27):
I love your analysis on the balls. You know, I'm
telling you man, I don't think Tapper knows anything about
college football. Your your point. He'll pretend, Oh yeah, but
I I see. But that's worse than just being honest
and acknowledging that you don't have any knowledge of a subject.
That all right, So I think they need to be
(04:48):
hoisted on their proverbial petard. And here's the other thing.
It will echo beyond the audience of this show. This
show is a great platform. We got a big audience.
We appreci all of you who listen every single day.
But I think immensely now about how do you reach
(05:08):
beyond the choir? Right, The choir's great, and you know,
if you are in a church, typically choir is going
to show up. They're going to stand behind the minister,
They're going to support them. They are the you know,
and you're preach into the choir in the proverbial connotation there.
But in order to really change the world or change
(05:30):
the nation, you have to reach sometimes outside of the
congregation and connect with people who may not know that
you are existing on a day to day basis. And
what I see, and I'll give him credit Scott Jennings
on CNN, he is connecting, I think, with an audience
(05:50):
that otherwise would not be hearing the arguments that are
made by a Republican and he's actually dismantling arguments that
are made by the left. And I think that's incredibly valuable. Look,
I just came off Harris Faulkner's show. I'm on Fox
News pretty much every day you're on Fox News a lot.
It's by far the biggest audience out there and has
(06:11):
tremendous impact. But if you are someone who watches MSNBC
or CNN, you oftentimes have no idea the arguments that
we would make. And everybody out there listening to us,
because so much of popular culture is steeped in the left,
we actually know the arguments that the left makes. I
think our arguments are better, and it's why I've come
(06:32):
back a bunch of times buck to the debate between
Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis that Sean Hannity hosted, and
Ron DeSantis obliterated Gavin Newsom, and I think it was
because Gavin Newsom is not used to actually being held accountable,
because usually he's got interviewers who are lifting him up
(06:55):
and parading him as if he is a paragon of
virtue because they are of the left, and he was
not prepared for the arguments that he saw from DeSantis,
and I frankly don't think that Jake Tapper would be
prepared for us. And I think the collision of ideas
and arguments is actually what propels itself throughout the larger
media ecosystem and gets an out there to change hearts
(07:18):
and minds, like you going on, Bill Maher. Yes, the
crowd didn't like you, but I bet there were a
couple of people out there who saw your arguments and
they were like, Hey, this guy, I actually think he
might be correct, and they hadn't been exposed to what
you would argue. I think that's incredibly valuable. So that's
that's my argument for how you win is going into
(07:38):
places where people might not even be aware of the
arguments that you would make. Well after this, he's going
to be creeping into your DMS telling you let's go.
You know here, we have to we have to have
him on, I suppose, so I wonder if it'll be him.
I'll take the I'll take the blame. Anybody who's angry
Buck is Buck is not excited about it. I think
it's a I think it's a Donnie Brook. We should
(07:59):
set up. He likes the Eagles, the football. He's gonna
he's gonna try to pull the whole football fan thing
with you. But all right, all right, that's fine, that's fine.
It looks like we'll get a throat on going with that.
What doesn't work. Is trying to steamroll Trump in an
interview for ABC News, That's for sure. That did not
go as planned for this guy. Terry Moran, did we
(08:20):
already play with Trump? Is like tells him he's not
being he's not being very nice. Uh no, we haven't
played that yet. I don't trust you with that. Cut seven? Yeah,
I think, well, yeah, play play the cuts. He was
he was on fire with this stuff. Play cut seven.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Do you think Vladimir Putin wants peace?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I think he does, Yes, I think it does.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think missiles. I think he really his.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
His dream was to take over the whole country. I
think because of me, he's not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Do you trust him? I think do you trust him?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't trust you. I don't trust I don't trust
a lot of people. I don't trust you.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Look at you.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You're coming all shooting for bear, You're so happy to
do the end, and then you start hitting me with
fake questions. He started telling me that a guy whose
hand is covered with the tattoo doesn't have the tattoo.
You know, I mean, you're being dishonest.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
No, not lemon nuts.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I trust I don't trust a lot of people. But
I do think this. I think that he, let's say,
he respects me, and I believe because in me, he's
not going to take over the hold.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And then this turned into the big dispute about the
MS thirteen, which you heard him referencing there Buck, which
is cut one. And I think, well, just listen and
then we'll explain what we think is going on here.
Here's cut one's.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Murderous criminals in this country. We have to get him out,
and we're doing it violent. And you don't pick out
one man. But even the man that you picked out.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
He's got a key, said he wasn't a member of
a gang.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And then they looked and on his knuckles he had MS.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
There's a disco.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, he had MS thirteen
on his n We had some tattoos that are interpreted
that way.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But let's move on.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Wait a minute, I'll tear it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Terry. He did not have the letter M S one.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It says MS one three.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That was the photoshop.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So let me do his photoshop.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Terry, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime.
You know you're doing the interview. I picked you because frankly,
I never heard of you, but that's okay. I picked you, Terry, Hey,
but you're not being very nice. He had MS thirteen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Tech we'll agree to disagree. I want to rive on
to something else.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Ry, do you over show you the picture?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I saw the picture. Well, the photoshop here we go here,
we don't photoshop.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But don't look at his hand. He had fist.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way.
I'm not an expert on them. I want to turn
to Ukraine. I want to get to No.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, he at MS as clear as you can be.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Not interpreted. This is why people.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
No longer believe well the news because.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
In El Salvador they aren't there. But let's just go
they aren't there when he's.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
In there now right, No, but they're in your picture,
Terry Ukraine's he's got MS thirteen on his knuckles. Are okay,
it's such a disservice.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
We'll take a look.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
She'd just say, yes he does, and you know, go
on to something else.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
All right. So I think the dispute here Buck is
Moran is saying, hey, you are this is ridiculous. But
they put the photo out right and it shows the tattoos,
which are signposts cultural signposts according to people who know
gangs to represent MS thirteen. And then above the photo
(11:33):
they showed you, Hey, this is the this is what
the M stands for, this is what the s this
is what the thirteen. And you correct me if I'm
wrong here, Buck, But I think what they're arguing about
is actually an interpretation that Trump believes. He's not willing
to acknowledge that that stands for MS thirteen. And then
(11:53):
Moran is trying to say, no, you wrote those letters
above it, and it's just like one big cluster. Well, also,
they're really willing to go to the mat for this guy,
aren't Yes, right, I mean they're that now all of
a sudden, every coincidence must be given in such a
or rather must be accepted in such a way that
there's a little more doubt cast on whether this guy.
(12:15):
When you look at this guy's record, he's a gang member. Okay,
this is multiple judges have found that he's a gang member.
In the past. He's been found in the company of gang.
How many MS thirteen gang members have you ever been
found in the company of clay I'll speak for myself.
Zero I have a feeling it's zero for you too,
so far as I know, I think it's zero. Yes,
good point. I'd be all of these coincidences are being
(12:37):
cited in order to undermine Trump on this issue. And
I also would just say this, I don't care, right,
this is this guy's not an American, he's gone, He's
not a problem anymore. I don't want to hear about it.
I mean, I know why they're doing it. I'm not
oblivious to the rationale behind this as an assault on Trump. Oh,
the rule of law and all this other stuff. But
(12:58):
I think that what they fail to recognize is one
in the mood of the country about illegal immigration and
particularly illegal immigrant gang members. And two, we cannot have
a system where the law is not enforced and is
refused to be enforced when it comes to illegal entry
and staying here illegally. But then every legal statute, everything
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imaginable has to be given in terms of process to
prevent the deportation of individuals. If that's the case, we
don't have a country anymore. We're just pretending. And that's
where I am on this. I think a lot of
people are on this too. I don't really care he's
not supposed to be here. He's gone, he's not an American.
Not our problem. And we'll come back and talk about
this in a little bit. But there is a report
(13:42):
that House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies, it must be polling
really really bad. As we told you it was. Hey,
go figure a gangland human trafficking wife beating non American
illegal immigrant in El Salvador and try to make him
the face of unfair deportations has blown up in Democrat
(14:04):
party faces, such that their House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies
is telling people stop with the El Salvador visits. I'm
told you this was going to poll poorly. Of course,
I know they'll say this is what aboutism, It's not.
This is actually about understanding whether there's a principle at
work here or not. Did a single one of these
Democrats who claim to care so much about due process
(14:26):
even raise a question about the solitary confinement and eighteen
month pre trial imprisonment of nonviolent January sixth defendants who
are Americans, not one. So they can cry about this
all day. Their tears are falling on deaf ears, no doubt,
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Speaker 1 (16:17):
They're still going with this cabinet meeting. Clay's buddy, He's
golf buddy. Perhaps soon. Doug Bergham's laying it down right now,
Dougie b. I don't know if we've called him that yet,
but I think that's kind of a fun one for him.
He's the Interior Secretary, very important job, a lot that
goes under the umbrella of responsibility for the Interior Secretary.
(16:40):
Senator Marker I keep doing that. I've just known him
as Senator Rubio for the whole time I've been in
media pretty much. Secretary of State Marco Rubio sitting there
as well with Donald Trump. We want to bring you
some of the highlights of what has gone on so far.
And i'd say RFK Junior also sitting next to Dougie
b Secretary Bergham, and he's doing his thing. I'm surprised.
(17:04):
Not a lot of controversy around Rfk Junior. I don't
mean on the personal side, but on the policy side.
I would have thought by now they would be in
a full fledged freak out over him, but it hasn't
really happened. Let's dive into what has been going on
here and what they've been saying. As you know, Elon
Musk is also present at this cabinet meeting, and his
(17:26):
time with DOJE is as was planned. Don't forget, because
he's a special government employee or whatever they call it.
As was planned, He's going to be rotating out and
going back to running his companies. This is cut twenty three.
Elon says, Well, Elon has some high praise for the
Trump administration thus far. Play it.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, the American people voted for secure borders, safe cities,
and sensible spending, and that's what they've got. A tremendous
amountain has been accomplished in the first hundred days, as
everyone has said, it's more than any that's pretty compass.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
To any administration before ever period.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
So is this pretends very well for what happened for
the rest of the administration. I think this could be
the greatest administratious Audio.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Company you have been treated unfairly, but the vast majority
of people in this country really respect and appreciate you,
and this whole room can say that very strong.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Really been a tremendous help. You opened up a lot
of eyes as to what could be done, and we
just want to thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And you know you're invited to stay as long as
you want. At some point, he wants to get back
home to his cars.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
And.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, and his rockets and all the other good stuff. Clake,
I think it's important context because Elon is not a
guy who accepts less than the best. It's been one
hundred days. Trump's doing the things he said he would do.
There has been some excellent progress, but you can't slay
all the dragons the first time you pick up the sword. Yeah,
(18:56):
and again, I think the biggest story of Trump's hundred
days is that he trying. He is trying to fix
things that most politicians would not touch. And this is
important because it's what you should want politicians to do.
But most of them are so concerned with getting reelected
(19:17):
that they aren't willing to actually get that far out
in front of making substantial change. And you and I
have talked about this a lot, and I think it
comes up frequently. What Elon has done is what we
should want incredibly talented people from a wide variety of
backgrounds to be willing to do. It's what Pete Hegseth did,
(19:40):
It's what Sean Duffy did. If you are having sex,
and this is my opinion, some of you may disagree,
but if you are fortunate enough to have success in
whatever your private endeavor is, Elon is the most successful
capitalist maybe in the history of the world. Now to
reiterate that, because I think sometimes it gets lost, Elon
(20:03):
may well be the most successful capitalist in the history
of the world. Buck. I mean, certainly on a dollar value,
no one has been wealthier. Now you can argue, hey,
historically on inflation adjusted basis, John D. Rockefeller, some of
the people in the late nineteenth century, early twentieth century
may have had higher share of wealth, the Stanfords, the Vanderbilts,
(20:25):
the Rockefellers, the people who endowed so many different institutions.
But when you think about Tesla, SpaceX XAAI, Twitter, and
the Boring Company, among many others, I don't know that
there is anyone in the history of American capitalism or
world capitalism that has been more successful than Elon Is.
He had no reason buck other than his belief that
(20:48):
he had an incredible ability of talent to bring the
bear at the government to leave what he was doing
and making money into it. Look at Hegseth and people
are coming after Hegseth like crazy. He was making several
million dollars a year doing Fox and Friends' weekend hits
as a host and also then doing lots of different
hits on Fox News, and he gave that up to
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make a couple hundred thousand dollars to be Defense Secretary.
Sean Duffy was making really good money hosting a show
on Fox Business. He gave that up to Gobee Transportation Secretary.
Donald Trump himself was rolling in billions of dollars, had
an easy lifestyle. Everyone loved him. He was one of
the most popular entrepreneurs and capitalists in the entire world.
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And he decided that he didn't like the way America
was going and he was willing to put his hat
in the ring and take the slings and arrows from
other people. There are tons of those people, Lutnick Bessant,
people who were wildly successful outside of the government that
have decided to bring their talents to bear at the government.
I think it's probably the most underreported, underdiscussed aspect of
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Trump cabinet two point zero. I'm not sure we'd ever
seen a more sick, successful gathering of people from outside
the government than what Trump has brought to bear so
far in this group that was meeting right now in
the last couple of hours. Now, this cabinet will bring
more of the highlights to you as it continues to unfold.
But a couple of things that have come up. One
(22:16):
is you may have seen that the US economy had
a zero point three percent decline in GDP in the
first quarter. Now remember two Remember when two quarters of
negative of negative growth under Biden was a recession. But
then they said, well, is that really a recession? And
we all had to debate what the definition of a
recession was. They're going to seize on this. They're trying
(22:39):
to seize on this to say that Trump his economy
is actually not going to be strong with the American people.
You all know, we all understand where this is going.
But Trump had this to say about the GDP number,
and he's not mincing words. This is twenty four core GDP, and.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
This is you know, you've probably said some numbers today
and have to shut up.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I say that's Biden, that's not Trump, because we came
in on January just a quarterly numbers, and we came
in and I was very against everything that Biden was
doing in terms of the economy destroying our country in
so many ways, not only at the border. The border
was more obvious, but we took over his mess in
so many different ways core GDP, removing distortions from imports, inventories,
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and government spending was up plus three percent when you edit,
we had numbers that despite what we were handed, we
turned them around and we were getting them really turned around.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Now, I would just say I think it is it
is fair that Donald Trump is well, he's saying, look,
we came in in the middle of in the middle
of the quarter, which is true, or you know, early
mid to the quarter. And he's only been president for
one hundred days. So we have to see how a
lot of this plays out. If Trump could snap it
because he's noted, I would say this glay because he
(23:55):
snapped his fingers in essence, and the border has been fixed,
not immigration. We still have all the deportations and illegal
immigration issue, but the border issue, border security has been
largely ninety five percent is pretty much fixed. I almost
feel like he's a victim of his own success because
he snaps his finger and fixes the border, he can't
snap his fingers and fix the economy. And especially when
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you look at the dead and spending in these things
that have been built up over decades, it's gonna take
a little time. I do think that's fair context for
this number that has just come out. I don't think
there's any doubt at all. And I just think overall
the battle out there as they are trying to attack Trump.
(24:39):
You know, we talked about the polling numbers yesterday, Buck
and I do think this is important. Is there anybody
within twenty points popularity wise in the Democrat Party that
is eligible to run for office with Trump? Because historically,
with Biden, we knew Trump was gonna run, so you
could always kind of compare with Biden, and then with
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Kamala there was somebody that you could put up head
to head. I'm not even sure right now who you
would point to in the Democrat Party and say this
person is even on an even remotely close to an
even playing field with Donald Trump's popularity, and so the
attack now is, oh, the things that Trump is doing
(25:21):
are unpopular, and I think they've had some success going
after Elon and I hope it doesn't discourage other highly
successful businessmen from coming into government, but unfortunately, I think
it probably will. And I think that's part of the intent.
But I don't know who you would even point to
and say, in these hundred days, this person has been
(25:43):
elevated as the foil for Trump. District court judges, but
there's hundreds of them. There isn't really any challenger of Trump,
even if his agenda is not wildly popular in the
marketplace right now? Does that make sense? Like I don't
even see a conflict of ideas that's possible because Democrats,
(26:03):
it sort of feels, are drunkenly jumping from oh, we're
gonna go with a Breio Garcia, Oh we're gonna go
with the cost of eggs. Oh, the stock market is
not in an ideal position, and they just kind of
drunkenly move swerve from one argument to another, and there
is no uniting coalition of opposition behind it. Does that
(26:24):
make sense? Which I think is only fracturing even more,
and I think it's gonna get worse because I think
the economy is going to be getting better in the
months ahead. Now, China obviously looms large in all of
this with the economy, with the tariffs, and this is
really I think for in my view, i'd be interesting.
(26:46):
This would be an interesting question to asked Trump. I'd
love to hear me. Well, we'll talk to them. I
think we're gonna go see the big guy in June.
Clay and I've been talking about this. We were going
to see them and see him sooner and his team.
But you know, I've got a little human who is
very dependent on mom and dad to be around, well,
particularly mom, let's be honest, but I try to help out.
So Clay has graciously agreed to let us push this
back to probably June. I think we'll do our time
(27:09):
with the President and some of his team, But I
would want to ask him. I think that in Trump's mind,
he has defeated the fake news media, which is which
I think is a totally fair assessment. I think he
has defeated the Democrat Party, right, he's not running again.
He won twice. He I know some of you're saying
he won three times, but he won twice officially. And
(27:30):
now I think he views his primary challenge as China.
I don't think he thinks the Democrats are who he
really has to focus on as much anymore. I think
he's really viewing China and the future of the China
US relationship and our ability to compete and continue to
be the dominant global force that we are is a
(27:50):
huge part of Trump's legacy, so he sees this as important.
I don't think he wants to have an unnecessarily bellakos
relationship with China. He just wants us to be out
positioned and he wants things to be fair. He spoke
about this in this cabinet meeting. This is cut twenty five.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I know that China is doing very poorly right now.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I just saw some reports coming out, and I don't
want that to happen to China. I like the President
a lot, Presidentcy. I don't want it to happen.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I was.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I was actually.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Sanden to hear it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
But they are getting absolutely hammered in China, and you know,
they're sending boats, the biggest boats in the world carrying
cargo like nobody's ever seen before. These are the biggest
boats in the world, the biggest cargo ships in.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The world, and they're coming and they're turning around in
the Pacific Ocean. They're doing a big u turn and
going back because they don't want the goods because one
hundred and forty five percent ARRA. But at a certain point,
I hope we're going to make a deal with China.
We're talking to China, but their factories are closing all
over China because we're.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Not taking their product.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
We don't want their product unless they're going to be
fair with us, and that includes intellectual property and other things.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
There are a lot of things far beyond just by
seal Clay.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
He said, Look, he doesn't want to get into a
bare knuckle brawl for the foreseeable future with China over trade.
All they have to do is change some behavior and
we can all be nice. As Trump would say, I
will be very surprised if by August this isn't all resolved.
You can put me down on the prediction market. By August.
I think we'll get through the summer. I think what
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you will start to see in the next few days
is a lot of these new trade agreements will be
rolled out and they'll be better and they'll be more efficient,
and the market is gonna come to realize that this
is not the end of the world. And I think
by August China and the United States will have in
some way come to an agreement. That's my bet. I
(29:37):
think they want to get this thing resolved before we
get into the holiday season, because you need some finality
and certainty as you are getting retail set up for
the holiday season, which now buck by September, there Christmas
tree showing up in costcos you know, the Christmas creep
gets here sooner and sooner, and I think that will
(29:58):
be a time when we will have some resolution. So
I don't think this thing's going to stretch on forever.
I think both sides are going to sit down at
the table. I think we'll get a better deal than
we have right now, and by the summer, I think
you will start to see the larger marketplace start to fire.
I also think our boy Jerome Powell, inflation is coming down.
(30:22):
He needs to cut rates, and there's now a prediction
of four rate cuts before the end. I think Goldman's
newest forecast is that four rate cuts, a total point
rate cut that will also start to juice the economy,
maybe free up the housing market or so many of
you out there are sitting on those two and a
half or three percent mortgages. Congrats, but it's been a
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I have been sitting watching a battle between a million
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to happen. And I have not finished yet, but we
may get Buck's opinion on gorillas versus humans and who
would win the battle before all is said and done.
(32:42):
But we've got several other different stories that we are tracking.
What is going to happen with the immigration policies, of
the president. Has he stopped talking and with the cabinet yet?
I mean that was this was what like an hour
and a half Producer Ali that he talked to the
media and the cabinet met with the media nearly two
(33:04):
hours potentially. I know it was supposed to start at
eleven am Eastern. I think he'd started at like eleven
thirty or eleven forty and has been going for much
of the course of this program. We've been sharing some
of those elements with all of you, and as we
sit here on day one oh one, we're going to
be joined by Marsha Blackburn on the back half of
(33:26):
the program here at two thirty eastern. But I did
want to share this with you, Tim Walls, who I
believe has no political career left, and those of you
who are listening to us in Minnesota should be ashamed
that this man is your governor. By the way, the
cabinet meeting and the press availability following it went for
(33:47):
two hours and two minutes. What I mean that is
a long time. We do a three hour daily show here,
so he nearly gave us a run for our money.
And who could do the longest show? I will say
whatever your thoughts thoughts are on Trump. We have never
had a president answer more questions, and I'm certain we've
(34:09):
never had a cabinet answer more questions than what the
Trump administration first one hundred days have been like. That
is Trump is telling you exactly what he's going to
do and why. Tim Walls, speaking at Harvard University, said
that he was I guess this was a panel this
week at Harvard said that he was on the ticket
(34:32):
because he could code talk to white football fans and
also guys who like to fix their truck so that
they were more comfortable voting for Kamala Harris Buck, this
is crazy town. I know a lot of you out
there listening to us right now are football fans. Some
(34:54):
of you probably also pretty adept at working on trucks.
Are there any of you listening right now that think
that worked? I have said and I'll continue to say it.
Tim Walls is a lesbians idea of a man that
will appeal to men, and that perfectly personifies I think
the modern day Democrat Party. Did Tim Walls make you, guys,
(35:18):
football fans and car officionados out there, feel like you
could vote for Kamala and the Democrats more eight hundred
and two eight two two eight a two because that
is what can you believe this is real? This is
the argument he's making. Well, I think it's true. But
I also think that we saw that it. It's one
thing for it not to work. I think it backfired
(35:40):
because I think that there was something condescending to the
very people that the Democrats were trying to at the
last minute fool in this way. Oh yeah, you know,
we we got we got people that wear car hard
and go to Walmart and shoot guns at birds and
things too. Like it just doesn't it did. It didn't
(36:00):
seem authentic because it wasn't authentic because Tim Walls is
a communist and the whole thing was absurd. And so
I think that this it was worse than it didn't
work for them. I think it actually went against them,
using Walls for that group in that way. I think
that is one hundred percent accurate. Here is Tim Wall
saying it. This is starting to get a lot of
(36:21):
play for the reason that I believe Buck said, which
is this blew up in Democrats face, and I think
also reflects that they don't really have a strategy to
talk to normal guys, which was a huge part of
the twenty twenty four failure. Here is Walls explaining who
he was supposed to appeal to.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I was on the ticket, I would argue, because we
did a lot of amazing progressive things in Minnesota that
improved people's lives. But I also was on the ticket
quite honestly, you know, because I could code talk to
white guys watching football fixing their truck during that that
I could put them at ease. I was the permission
structure to say, look, you can do this and vote
for this. And you look across those swing states, with
(37:00):
exception of Minnesota, we didn't get enough.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Of those votes. I mean, they didn't even do that
well in Minnesota. I think the numbers reflected. I don't
have them in front of me right now, but that basically,
twenty twenty four Minnesota was not much different than twenty
twenty Minnesota. Now, twenty sixteen Minnesota was even closer. Trump
came within I think fifty thousand votes or so in
twenty sixteen of flipping Minnesota as well, and it was
(37:24):
relatively close and meaning five points or so if I
remember correctly. But Walls didn't even really add much to
the Minnesota support. You remember when Elizabeth Warren, she of
fake Native American heritage and tenured tenured professor of law
at Harvard University, was really making a go of it
(37:45):
for the presidency, or we knew she was going to,
and she did the whole Okay, I'm gonna get me
a beer, yes, and everybody was just like, you've never
said I'm gonna get me a beer before in your life.
In one Elizabeth Warren show it, she's like, oh, yeah,
I'm gonna imbibe some some prude hops and maybe have
(38:07):
I don't know, a bud feizer. I have said for
some time JBN should be the lesson for most politicians.
Just simplify it. Give me an acronym. JBIN stands for
just be normal. The number of politicians that can't just
be normal is off the charts. So but I have
to ask, I think some of these people are not normal.
(38:30):
So this is why they come across as trying hard
to be normal, because they're actually huge weirdos. Yeah. I
think there's a lot of truth to that, and there's
probably something for why politics draws that more because it's
also very strange to need to have constant affirmation from
(38:52):
random people that you don't know that they think you're
a good choice to do a job for them. I mean,
the whole idea of begging people to vote for you
is I think, just a strange way to make a
living personally. But it is interesting because what Walls is
saying is actually, I think why the Democrat Party is
(39:14):
in the brand is in the toilet right now. There's
lots of talk about, oh, what's Trump's approval rating and everything.
Trump's approval rating is probably nearly twenty points higher than
the national approval rating of any Democrat in America right now.
So if you say, okay, Trump's only got forty percent approval,
let's say it's a bad number, right forty percent of
(39:35):
American's approve of Trump right now? What Democrat has twenty
five percent approval? I don't mean in the Democrat Party,
I mean nationwide. I don't think there's anybody even within
single digits of Trump when it comes to approval. And
so there's a lot of people who are upset about
the trajectory of the nation right now. Things cost too much.
There's a lot of upheaval. But the last time that
(40:00):
a Democrat ran for President and one Men nineteen sixty four.
Let me repeat that most of the anti Trump sentiment
in America is from women. Men are overwhelmingly on board
the Trump train. The last time the Democrat ticket won
(40:23):
the majority of male voters in America was nineteen sixty four.
That is, for many people a Holy Craft moment. So
this idea that the Democrat Party has suddenly begun to
struggle with men is false. What has actually happened is
they've just hit all time lows with men. They've been
(40:43):
struggling for sixty years, but now they are losing so
badly that even buck when they are trying to address
the issue, which is clearly paramount when it comes to
them winning elections, they end up with a guy like
Tim who, actually, I think you're right, even though he's
(41:04):
designed to bring in men who like to hunt and
men who like football. Remember they introduced him at the
DNC not as Governor Walls, but as coach Walls. He
wasn't even a head coach, but they tried to turn
him into some sort of Eric Taylor Friday Night Lights
figure to appeal to men. I mean, it landed flat.
I think they should have called them choreographer Walls because
(41:26):
those jazz hands and his fat figures. Sometimes you know,
weirit fingers high leg kicks. I don't know did he
try out. I know he needed a job soon because
he's not gonna be able to be governor forever. Could
he be a rocket? I think if you put him
on the stage, he's got a good leg kick and
the rockets. I mean, that is not that is not
(41:46):
a light amount of work when you do those leg
kicks one after the other. I think, to be fair
to Tim Walls, I think he could leg kick like
a lot of women can leg kick, and maybe that
has appeal. I'll tell you one thing I think is interesting.
I've seen some of these stores worries out there, and
I've seen the re emergence of some some leftists from
the in media from the Obama era, and these efforts
(42:09):
to say, you know, well, this is the new Is
this the new masculine face of the Democrat party? You know,
is this the new? Like the badass bro and all
of these people they put forward. I'm like, no, no,
And then you think to yourself, this is amazing. I mean,
there are a lot of Democrats out there, a lot
of Democrats in the media. This is the best they've
got to just appeal the normal guys who like guy things.
(42:33):
The people they're putting forward do not do not answer
the mail, so to speak. It does not get it done. No,
And look, I mean it wasn't just Tim Walls that
she was considering. Remember it was Shapiro, who I think
you've rightly said, has the unfortunate for Democrats these days religion. Right.
I don't think they can put a Jewish guy on
the ticket, even if he's in the most important state,
(42:54):
and that is a huge indictment of the It would
cost them. It would cost the Michigan. I think they
know that. I mean I think that that's Look, look
what just happened in his last election. Democrats had problems
in Michigan in the first place. Uh, but I think
it would cost the Michigan to have a Democrat as
the top of the ticket, no question about it. And
then you've got JB. Pritzker, who we said has got
the same issue that Frankly Chris Christie had, which is
(43:17):
you're not gonna elect I don't think America is going
to elect a four hundred pound dude. I'm sorry, I mean,
maybe if he was two sixty instead of four hundred,
maybe people change their minds. He's also a constant, you know,
because I'm sympathetic to this. Then you know, I've talked
about how I've been getting I've gotten back into like
reasonable shape now and I'm still going and going trying
to get better shape all the time. The guy's a
(43:39):
billionaire like I. You know, if you gain thirty or
forty pounds because you were working double shifts and you're
trying to provide for your family and you know, you're
just you're ereating on down hamburgers and French fries because
you're trying to feel save money and eat fast. Yep,
totally sympathetic, no judgments. The society that we live in
Priority ties is more hours at the desk, less time
(44:03):
out there. It's easier to get fast, crappy food, and
it has you know all that. So I'm this dude's
a billionaire. You're a billionaire in the era of Jay,
you know, get a private chef, get on some GLP ones.
I mean, the guy is morbidly obese. Like again, it's
not about that shaming. It's about you couldn't responsibly elect
(44:24):
this guy to be president because his health is such
obviously an issue you couldn't protect. You couldn't think this
guy could serve eight years without there being huge problems.
And also he's got the same problem in the Gavin
Newsom does, which is he's actually been an awful governor.
Everybody is leaving Illinois, Everybody is leaving California. Chicago's a
great place to live. The mayor's got a six percent
(44:45):
approval rating because Democrats have done a really poor job
of governing in places like Illinois, in California, and so
Andy Basheer, we got a huge audience in Kentucky. I'm
sorry that guy has the woest masculinity reading on the planet.
I think Kentucky should be embarrassed who have elected him twice.
(45:07):
His daddy was the governor's the reason he got elected.
He did awful with COVID, he shut down churches, he
didn't let kids go to school and play sports. Like
the fact that Kentucky elected this guy twice is I
think an incredible embarrassment for this thing. Look look at
also some of the mandatory beliefs that if you're going
to be a Democrat at the national level in good
(45:30):
standing with the base and with the Democrat machine. You
have to you have to do what say that guy
John Oliver did on HBO regily, He's like, is there
really evidence that men are better at sports than women?
He's like, yes, you little moron. Yeah, of course, of
course there's it's called all of human history. We're all
very but you have to say these things that no
(45:53):
normal guy will say, No normal red blooded American man
is like, you know, I'm a feminist and I think
that you know, the transagender for kids is a good idea. Like,
so this is there's a bit of self selection that's
gone on here, right, it was, it was different twenty
years ago. This has been a shift in the culture,
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Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app
or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in play
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. We are now joined by Senator from the
great state of Tennessee, where I reside.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I last saw her for a fundraiser I believe for
the Nashville Davidson County Republican Party. That was a fun event.
Senator Blackburn, I know you're focused on a lot of things,
but let's start off right here. It's day one oh one.
How would you rate the first one hundred days of Trump?
And where is the Senate when it comes to getting
(48:28):
this big budd big beautiful bill done? What can you
tell us about it all?
Speaker 7 (48:33):
Well? For President Trump's first hundred days, promise is made,
promises kept, and he has done it in grand fashion
the way he is moving forward, securing the border, getting
inflation down, making certain he's restoring our standing in the world,
(48:54):
and something very important to me, and I know you
also is getting men out of when than sports a man.
So I think you've had a very good one hundred days.
And it is up to the House in the Senate
to make certain that we pass this bill, the Reconciliation Bill,
that we make permanent the tax cuts from twenty seventeen.
(49:19):
And you know, the important thing to remember on that
is that if we cannot get this passed, then the
American people will have the largest tax height in history.
It will be a four trillion dollar increase in their taxes.
So it is imperative, absolutely imperative that we get this
(49:44):
job done.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Center Blackburn, thanks for being here with us. I know
after you talked to us here, you're going to meet
the White House invest in America event. What's going on
with that. We know what Trump has been up to
policy wise up to this point. Talk about the one
hundred day, the one hundred days in yesterday and looking
at what has been a phenomenal start for his second term.
(50:07):
But what can you tell us about investing in America
and some of the plans, deals, programs, et cetera that
Trump's trying to get accomplished.
Speaker 7 (50:17):
Yes, what we know is that there has been five
trillion dollars of investment committed in the US since President
Trump took office. Now this is a combination of direct
foreign investment and also American private investment. Tennessee has been
(50:37):
the recipient of some of this. We have We've had
thirty companies and twelve hundred jobs and one point two
billion dollars already invested in Tennessee since President Trump was
elected in November. And this is twelve hundred jobs. Now,
(50:58):
part of that is private, part of that this direct
foreign investment in our state. But it proves the point
that people want to invest in America. They know that
they want access to our market. They know that if
they manufacture here, they're not going to pay the tariffs.
So whether it's Schneider Electric or Abb Electronics or Charms
(51:20):
Candy Company, they all are expanding and creating jobs in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
AI is a rapidly advancing tech revolution that I think
many people are still getting their hands kind of wrapped
around what the impact is going to be. I have
read about what one of the things that you have
written a letter to Facebook slash Meta about there's lots
of AI now and I was kind of stunned by
(51:48):
this because I barely I'm gonna be honest with y'all,
I barely used AI. But these chatbots, evidently, while engaging
with miners who might be using them, are engaged sometimes
in sexually explicit related interactions. For people out there who
don't know about this, I think this is important for
(52:08):
parents and grandparents to know. What is that investigation shown?
Speaker 7 (52:13):
Oh my goodness, this is one of the most disgusting
and horrifying things that has come about. Meta has created
this chat box, and what the investigation this was reported
in the Wall Street Journal is it engages in sexually
explicit conversation with individuals and miners use this. There are
(52:41):
no safeguards. This is why we need to pass that
Kids Online Safety Act. There are no safeguards and the
explicit nature of this is something that is just horrifying.
I have talked to moms of teenagers that cannot even
believe that Matta knows this is a problem. They know
(53:04):
how it is being used, and they will not take
it offline, so it is appearing on WhatsApp, Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat,
and this is the kind of thing that needs to
be bought. You know, you can't take a child into
a pornographic show or an X rated movie, or take
(53:28):
them to a liquor store strip club, but they're exposed
to this in the virtual space twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week, and the fact that this is
happening is absolutely horrifying.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Senator Blackburn, are you sensing any pushback from your Senate
Democrat colleagues in terms of dealing with this problem. There
are some areas where I think we would all like
to believe, we'd like to believe at least I know
it's not perfect. That there is a bypart and desire
still that exists, and it's protecting children. I think would
(54:03):
be high on that list. Is this something you think
that legislation could get done in a bipartisan way to
protect the kids or what's.
Speaker 7 (54:11):
The whole The Kids Online Safety Act passed through the
Senate on a ninety one to three vote yes, and
it failed in the House. You had Speaker Johnson and
Leadersclife who did not bring the bill forward. At the
end of the last Congress, Senator Blomenthall and I are
(54:33):
refiling the bill in the next week, and we are
going to push it through in the Senate again and
give our friends over in the House opportunity to join us,
so we can get this to President's Trump President Trump's
desk and put a duty of care on the social
(54:53):
media platforms so that you are able to block them
and that parents and kids have a toolbox and can
disable some of these algorithms so that kids are not
exposed to these things in the virtual space.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Well, why is Facebook? I mean, this clearly is not
a good you know, it is not a good area.
You would think for them to be in opposition. You know, parents,
You've got bipartisan Senate vote for this, she said, you know,
over ninety votes. Going, what are they just saying it's
technologically difficult for them to handle this problem? Or what
are the social media companies, specifically Facebook saying?
Speaker 7 (55:33):
Yeah, But what they do is they use our children
as a profit center because their value is based off
the number of eyeballs that they can connect with every
day and the amount of time that they can hold
those eyeballs. So the longer they can keep a kid
(55:56):
scrolling or listening or looking the better off they are
as far as their profit goes. You know, Meta even
assigned a dollar value to each kid that is on
their site. I think the dollar value was two hundred
and forty seven dollars and that that's what the profit
(56:17):
margin is on that kid for a year. And it
is disgusting the way they have treated our children, what
they are exposing them to, this chat box that they
have created is over the top. There are parents that
are saying this has got to be taken down. And
Senator blumensaal and I wrote Mark Zuckerberg. We have not
(56:41):
heard one word back from him. There is no one
from Metta that has reached out to say, hey, we
get it, We're taking this down.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Senator Blibern, I know you're going to be at the
White House here in a little bit for a Trump address.
You have known Trump for a long time now, basically
his entire political career. You were there for the first
term of Trump, and now you're there for Trump two
point h y How is he different, if at all,
so far as you can tell through the first hundred days.
(57:13):
What is different about Trump two point zero compared to
Trump one point zero?
Speaker 7 (57:18):
He is so focused on getting things done. And you know,
as I say, promises made, promises kept are the way
to sum up his first one hundred days and play.
When you look at the intentionality that he approaches every
single day with, it is really quite remarkable. He came
(57:40):
into office knowing what he was going to do. He
started in on those executive orders. He said, we're going
to get this border secure, We're going to get inflation down,
and he has done it. And people that I am
talking with every single day are so grateful to have
a president committed to action on behalf of the American people.
(58:06):
And even when you look at tariffs and there's all
this talk around tears, people are very patient. They say,
we do want to get the cost of living down.
We want to get it down long term. We do
want to get the cost of government down. We want
to get it down long term so that our kids
and grandkids can experience the American dream. We want to
(58:27):
make certain that government is smaller and more manageable, and
that power and authority and money is sent back to
the state. And that is what Donald Trump is doing.
Every single day. He is focused on what is happening
on main street in our communities, he is focused on
(58:47):
prosperity for all Americans, and that is why I think
it's so appropriate that he uses the phrase the Golden
age of America.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
Amen, I sider A Blackburn, look forward to talking to
you again soon. Have a good time at the White House,
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We've got a fun show headed your way. Trump versus ABC.
We're going to have some fun breaking that down for you.
I don't know if you've seen this report yet, Buck,
(00:21):
but I definitely love it. House Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries
has supposedly told his entire caucus no more trips to
El Salvador. As the Abraio Garcia story has begun to
blow up in Democrats faces, more and more details coming
out about how crazy that story is. The New York
(00:43):
Times has discovered a brand new hot trend that they
had no idea. What's going on? People, Buck are wearing
cross necklaces and The New York Times has a style
section expos A diving into this new hot trend which
has existed for hundreds of years. And some of these
(01:05):
people Christians good hell. I just I think sometimes when
I see the stories like the New York Times had
a story recently, I don't know if you saw it, Buck,
where it said like Beyonce makes the cowboy hat matter
and I was like, Oh, that's really interesting, because I've
known the cowboy hat being pretty popular for a long time.
(01:25):
I don't know that I saw Beyonce as the person
who made the cowboy hat relevant. But these are the
kinds of things that sometimes you will read if you
do as I do, start your day every morning by
seeing what the New York Times has put out there. Okay,
we got a bunch of different stories to dive into.
But I thought vined Trump last night as the ABC
(01:49):
News one hundred Day interview just ricocheted around the internet.
I saw you were sharing parts of it, Buck, I
saw it. This is Terry Moran, I believe is his name.
And Trump really kind of had had fun with the
fact that nobody really knows who this guy is several
different times. But I thought, really, the one that was
(02:12):
the punchiest and echoed the most around the country was
when he called out ABC as being a part of
the legacy media cabal that refused to cover Joe Biden's sinility.
Here is cut three. This has gone megaviral.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presidence?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
No, I think it's.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Gone way up and I think we're a respected country. Again,
we were left at all over the world. We had
a president that couldn't walk up a flight of stairs,
couldn't walk down a flight of stairs, couldn't walk across
the stage without falling. We had a president that was
grossly incompetent. You knew it. I knew it, and everybody
knew it, but you guys didn't want to write it
because you're fake news.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
By the way, ABC is one of the worst. I
have to be honest.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, thank you right to his face. I mean, he
nailed it. And people say, okay, why is this a
story now? Well, we just had the White House correspondence
dinner where all of the media are basically trying to
self flagellate now and say, oh, how could we have known?
How could we have missed a story like this? And
Jake Tapper's got a book that's coming out suddenly talking
(03:21):
about how awful Biden is? Did you see the audience
response on that was do not have that guy on
the sacred airwaves? So we got we got to talk
about this, we got to do an off. We should
have I think we should have him on because the
number one thing that actually I think echoes. So I
appreciate the fact that people who listen on a regular
(03:43):
Just to be clear, you're saying you want to put
the brass knuckles on Clay. This is shocking everybody in
the audience. Yes, yeah, Well look, I think that what
I see echoing on a regular basis across the Information
super Highway aka the Internet and on all the social
media platforms is holding people accountable actually matters, and there's
(04:05):
a desperate desire for it. And so I think we
should have Jake Tapper on and hold him accountable for
the lies that he has helped to spread while lecturing
everyone about the truth that he is telling. And he's
very slippery. He's gonna come on, he's gonna start dropping
some knowledge about some SEC teams. He's gonna say, you know, Clay,
(04:27):
I love your analysis on the balls. You know, I'm
telling you man, I don't think Tapper knows anything about
college football. Your your point. He'll pretend, Oh yeah, but
I I see. But that's worse than just being honest
and acknowledging that you don't have any knowledge of a subject.
That all right, So I think they need to be
(04:48):
hoisted on their proverbial petard. And here's the other thing.
It will echo beyond the audience of this show. This
show is a great platform. We got a big audience.
We appreci all of you who listen every single day.
But I think immensely now about how do you reach
(05:08):
beyond the choir? Right, The choir's great, and you know,
if you are in a church, typically choir is going
to show up. They're going to stand behind the minister,
They're going to support them. They are the you know,
and you're preach into the choir in the proverbial connotation there.
But in order to really change the world or change
(05:30):
the nation, you have to reach sometimes outside of the
congregation and connect with people who may not know that
you are existing on a day to day basis. And
what I see, and I'll give him credit Scott Jennings
on CNN, he is connecting, I think, with an audience
(05:50):
that otherwise would not be hearing the arguments that are
made by a Republican and he's actually dismantling arguments that
are made by the left. And I think that's incredibly valuable. Look,
I just came off Harris Faulkner's show. I'm on Fox
News pretty much every day you're on Fox News a lot.
It's by far the biggest audience out there and has
(06:11):
tremendous impact. But if you are someone who watches MSNBC
or CNN, you oftentimes have no idea the arguments that
we would make. And everybody out there listening to us,
because so much of popular culture is steeped in the left,
we actually know the arguments that the left makes. I
think our arguments are better, and it's why I've come
(06:32):
back a bunch of times buck to the debate between
Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis that Sean Hannity hosted, and
Ron DeSantis obliterated Gavin Newsom, and I think it was
because Gavin Newsom is not used to actually being held accountable,
because usually he's got interviewers who are lifting him up
(06:55):
and parading him as if he is a paragon of
virtue because they are of the left, and he was
not prepared for the arguments that he saw from DeSantis,
and I frankly don't think that Jake Tapper would be
prepared for us. And I think the collision of ideas
and arguments is actually what propels itself throughout the larger
media ecosystem and gets an out there to change hearts
(07:18):
and minds, like you going on, Bill Maher. Yes, the
crowd didn't like you, but I bet there were a
couple of people out there who saw your arguments and
they were like, Hey, this guy, I actually think he
might be correct, and they hadn't been exposed to what
you would argue. I think that's incredibly valuable. So that's
that's my argument for how you win is going into
(07:38):
places where people might not even be aware of the
arguments that you would make. Well after this, he's going
to be creeping into your DMS telling you let's go.
You know here, we have to we have to have
him on, I suppose, so I wonder if it'll be him.
I'll take the I'll take the blame. Anybody who's angry
Buck is Buck is not excited about it. I think
it's a I think it's a Donnie Brook. We should
(07:59):
set up. He likes the Eagles, the football. He's gonna
he's gonna try to pull the whole football fan thing
with you. But all right, all right, that's fine, that's fine.
It looks like we'll get a throat on going with that.
What doesn't work. Is trying to steamroll Trump in an
interview for ABC News, That's for sure. That did not
go as planned for this guy. Terry Moran, did we
(08:20):
already play with Trump? Is like tells him he's not
being he's not being very nice. Uh no, we haven't
played that yet. I don't trust you with that. Cut seven? Yeah,
I think, well, yeah, play play the cuts. He was
he was on fire with this stuff. Play cut seven.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Do you think Vladimir Putin wants peace?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I think he does, Yes, I think it does.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think missiles. I think he really his.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
His dream was to take over the whole country. I
think because of me, he's not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Do you trust him? I think do you trust him?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't trust you. I don't trust I don't trust
a lot of people. I don't trust you.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Look at you.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You're coming all shooting for bear, You're so happy to
do the end, and then you start hitting me with
fake questions. He started telling me that a guy whose
hand is covered with the tattoo doesn't have the tattoo.
You know, I mean, you're being dishonest.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
No, not lemon nuts.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I trust I don't trust a lot of people. But
I do think this. I think that he, let's say,
he respects me, and I believe because in me, he's
not going to take over the hold.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And then this turned into the big dispute about the
MS thirteen, which you heard him referencing there Buck, which
is cut one. And I think, well, just listen and
then we'll explain what we think is going on here.
Here's cut one's.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Murderous criminals in this country. We have to get him out,
and we're doing it violent. And you don't pick out
one man. But even the man that you picked out.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
He's got a key, said he wasn't a member of
a gang.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And then they looked and on his knuckles he had MS.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
There's a disco.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, he had MS thirteen
on his n We had some tattoos that are interpreted
that way.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But let's move on.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Wait a minute, I'll tear it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Terry. He did not have the letter M S one.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It says MS one three.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That was the photoshop.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So let me do his photoshop.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Terry, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime.
You know you're doing the interview. I picked you because frankly,
I never heard of you, but that's okay. I picked you, Terry, Hey,
but you're not being very nice. He had MS thirteen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Tech we'll agree to disagree. I want to rive on
to something else.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Ry, do you over show you the picture?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I saw the picture. Well, the photoshop here we go here,
we don't photoshop.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But don't look at his hand. He had fist.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way.
I'm not an expert on them. I want to turn
to Ukraine. I want to get to No.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, he at MS as clear as you can be.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Not interpreted. This is why people.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
No longer believe well the news because.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
In El Salvador they aren't there. But let's just go
they aren't there when he's.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
In there now right, No, but they're in your picture,
Terry Ukraine's he's got MS thirteen on his knuckles. Are okay,
it's such a disservice.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
We'll take a look.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
She'd just say, yes he does, and you know, go
on to something else.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
All right. So I think the dispute here Buck is
Moran is saying, hey, you are this is ridiculous. But
they put the photo out right and it shows the tattoos,
which are signposts cultural signposts according to people who know
gangs to represent MS thirteen. And then above the photo
(11:33):
they showed you, Hey, this is the this is what
the M stands for, this is what the s this
is what the thirteen. And you correct me if I'm
wrong here, Buck, But I think what they're arguing about
is actually an interpretation that Trump believes. He's not willing
to acknowledge that that stands for MS thirteen. And then
(11:53):
Moran is trying to say, no, you wrote those letters
above it, and it's just like one big cluster. Well, also,
they're really willing to go to the mat for this guy,
aren't Yes, right, I mean they're that now all of
a sudden, every coincidence must be given in such a
or rather must be accepted in such a way that
there's a little more doubt cast on whether this guy.
(12:15):
When you look at this guy's record, he's a gang member. Okay,
this is multiple judges have found that he's a gang member.
In the past. He's been found in the company of gang.
How many MS thirteen gang members have you ever been
found in the company of clay I'll speak for myself.
Zero I have a feeling it's zero for you too,
so far as I know, I think it's zero. Yes,
good point. I'd be all of these coincidences are being
(12:37):
cited in order to undermine Trump on this issue. And
I also would just say this, I don't care, right,
this is this guy's not an American, he's gone, He's
not a problem anymore. I don't want to hear about it.
I mean, I know why they're doing it. I'm not
oblivious to the rationale behind this as an assault on Trump. Oh,
the rule of law and all this other stuff. But
(12:58):
I think that what they fail to recognize is one
in the mood of the country about illegal immigration and
particularly illegal immigrant gang members. And two, we cannot have
a system where the law is not enforced and is
refused to be enforced when it comes to illegal entry
and staying here illegally. But then every legal statute, everything
(13:22):
imaginable has to be given in terms of process to
prevent the deportation of individuals. If that's the case, we
don't have a country anymore. We're just pretending. And that's
where I am on this. I think a lot of
people are on this too. I don't really care he's
not supposed to be here. He's gone, he's not an American.
Not our problem. And we'll come back and talk about
this in a little bit. But there is a report
(13:42):
that House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies, it must be polling
really really bad. As we told you it was. Hey,
go figure a gangland human trafficking wife beating non American
illegal immigrant in El Salvador and try to make him
the face of unfair deportations has blown up in Democrat
(14:04):
party faces, such that their House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies
is telling people stop with the El Salvador visits. I'm
told you this was going to poll poorly. Of course,
I know they'll say this is what aboutism, It's not.
This is actually about understanding whether there's a principle at
work here or not. Did a single one of these
Democrats who claim to care so much about due process
(14:26):
even raise a question about the solitary confinement and eighteen
month pre trial imprisonment of nonviolent January sixth defendants who
are Americans, not one. So they can cry about this
all day. Their tears are falling on deaf ears, no doubt,
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Speaker 1 (16:17):
They're still going with this cabinet meeting. Clay's buddy, He's
golf buddy. Perhaps soon. Doug Bergham's laying it down right now,
Dougie b. I don't know if we've called him that yet,
but I think that's kind of a fun one for him.
He's the Interior Secretary, very important job, a lot that
goes under the umbrella of responsibility for the Interior Secretary.
(16:40):
Senator Marker I keep doing that. I've just known him
as Senator Rubio for the whole time I've been in
media pretty much. Secretary of State Marco Rubio sitting there
as well with Donald Trump. We want to bring you
some of the highlights of what has gone on so far.
And i'd say RFK Junior also sitting next to Dougie
b Secretary Bergham, and he's doing his thing. I'm surprised.
(17:04):
Not a lot of controversy around Rfk Junior. I don't
mean on the personal side, but on the policy side.
I would have thought by now they would be in
a full fledged freak out over him, but it hasn't
really happened. Let's dive into what has been going on
here and what they've been saying. As you know, Elon
Musk is also present at this cabinet meeting, and his
(17:26):
time with DOJE is as was planned. Don't forget, because
he's a special government employee or whatever they call it.
As was planned, He's going to be rotating out and
going back to running his companies. This is cut twenty three.
Elon says, Well, Elon has some high praise for the
Trump administration thus far. Play it.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, the American people voted for secure borders, safe cities,
and sensible spending, and that's what they've got. A tremendous
amountain has been accomplished in the first hundred days, as
everyone has said, it's more than any that's pretty compass.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
To any administration before ever period.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
So is this pretends very well for what happened for
the rest of the administration. I think this could be
the greatest administratious Audio.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Company you have been treated unfairly, but the vast majority
of people in this country really respect and appreciate you,
and this whole room can say that very strong.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Really been a tremendous help. You opened up a lot
of eyes as to what could be done, and we
just want to thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And you know you're invited to stay as long as
you want. At some point, he wants to get back
home to his cars.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
And.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, and his rockets and all the other good stuff. Clake,
I think it's important context because Elon is not a
guy who accepts less than the best. It's been one
hundred days. Trump's doing the things he said he would do.
There has been some excellent progress, but you can't slay
all the dragons the first time you pick up the sword. Yeah,
(18:56):
and again, I think the biggest story of Trump's hundred
days is that he trying. He is trying to fix
things that most politicians would not touch. And this is
important because it's what you should want politicians to do.
But most of them are so concerned with getting reelected
(19:17):
that they aren't willing to actually get that far out
in front of making substantial change. And you and I
have talked about this a lot, and I think it
comes up frequently. What Elon has done is what we
should want incredibly talented people from a wide variety of
backgrounds to be willing to do. It's what Pete Hegseth did,
(19:40):
It's what Sean Duffy did. If you are having sex,
and this is my opinion, some of you may disagree,
but if you are fortunate enough to have success in
whatever your private endeavor is, Elon is the most successful
capitalist maybe in the history of the world. Now to
reiterate that, because I think sometimes it gets lost, Elon
(20:03):
may well be the most successful capitalist in the history
of the world. Buck. I mean, certainly on a dollar value,
no one has been wealthier. Now you can argue, hey,
historically on inflation adjusted basis, John D. Rockefeller, some of
the people in the late nineteenth century, early twentieth century
may have had higher share of wealth, the Stanfords, the Vanderbilts,
(20:25):
the Rockefellers, the people who endowed so many different institutions.
But when you think about Tesla, SpaceX XAAI, Twitter, and
the Boring Company, among many others, I don't know that
there is anyone in the history of American capitalism or
world capitalism that has been more successful than Elon Is.
He had no reason buck other than his belief that
(20:48):
he had an incredible ability of talent to bring the
bear at the government to leave what he was doing
and making money into it. Look at Hegseth and people
are coming after Hegseth like crazy. He was making several
million dollars a year doing Fox and Friends' weekend hits
as a host and also then doing lots of different
hits on Fox News, and he gave that up to
(21:10):
make a couple hundred thousand dollars to be Defense Secretary.
Sean Duffy was making really good money hosting a show
on Fox Business. He gave that up to Gobee Transportation Secretary.
Donald Trump himself was rolling in billions of dollars, had
an easy lifestyle. Everyone loved him. He was one of
the most popular entrepreneurs and capitalists in the entire world.
(21:34):
And he decided that he didn't like the way America
was going and he was willing to put his hat
in the ring and take the slings and arrows from
other people. There are tons of those people, Lutnick Bessant,
people who were wildly successful outside of the government that
have decided to bring their talents to bear at the government.
I think it's probably the most underreported, underdiscussed aspect of
(21:55):
Trump cabinet two point zero. I'm not sure we'd ever
seen a more sick, successful gathering of people from outside
the government than what Trump has brought to bear so
far in this group that was meeting right now in
the last couple of hours. Now, this cabinet will bring
more of the highlights to you as it continues to unfold.
But a couple of things that have come up. One
(22:16):
is you may have seen that the US economy had
a zero point three percent decline in GDP in the
first quarter. Now remember two Remember when two quarters of
negative of negative growth under Biden was a recession. But
then they said, well, is that really a recession? And
we all had to debate what the definition of a
recession was. They're going to seize on this. They're trying
(22:39):
to seize on this to say that Trump his economy
is actually not going to be strong with the American people.
You all know, we all understand where this is going.
But Trump had this to say about the GDP number,
and he's not mincing words. This is twenty four core GDP, and.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
This is you know, you've probably said some numbers today
and have to shut up.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I say that's Biden, that's not Trump, because we came
in on January just a quarterly numbers, and we came
in and I was very against everything that Biden was
doing in terms of the economy destroying our country in
so many ways, not only at the border. The border
was more obvious, but we took over his mess in
so many different ways core GDP, removing distortions from imports, inventories,
(23:23):
and government spending was up plus three percent when you edit,
we had numbers that despite what we were handed, we
turned them around and we were getting them really turned around.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Now, I would just say I think it is it
is fair that Donald Trump is well, he's saying, look,
we came in in the middle of in the middle
of the quarter, which is true, or you know, early
mid to the quarter. And he's only been president for
one hundred days. So we have to see how a
lot of this plays out. If Trump could snap it
because he's noted, I would say this glay because he
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snapped his fingers in essence, and the border has been fixed,
not immigration. We still have all the deportations and illegal
immigration issue, but the border issue, border security has been
largely ninety five percent is pretty much fixed. I almost
feel like he's a victim of his own success because
he snaps his finger and fixes the border, he can't
snap his fingers and fix the economy. And especially when
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you look at the dead and spending in these things
that have been built up over decades, it's gonna take
a little time. I do think that's fair context for
this number that has just come out. I don't think
there's any doubt at all. And I just think overall
the battle out there as they are trying to attack Trump.
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You know, we talked about the polling numbers yesterday, Buck
and I do think this is important. Is there anybody
within twenty points popularity wise in the Democrat Party that
is eligible to run for office with Trump? Because historically,
with Biden, we knew Trump was gonna run, so you
could always kind of compare with Biden, and then with
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Kamala there was somebody that you could put up head
to head. I'm not even sure right now who you
would point to in the Democrat Party and say this
person is even on an even remotely close to an
even playing field with Donald Trump's popularity, and so the
attack now is, oh, the things that Trump is doing
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are unpopular, and I think they've had some success going
after Elon and I hope it doesn't discourage other highly
successful businessmen from coming into government, but unfortunately, I think
it probably will. And I think that's part of the intent.
But I don't know who you would even point to
and say, in these hundred days, this person has been
(25:43):
elevated as the foil for Trump. District court judges, but
there's hundreds of them. There isn't really any challenger of Trump,
even if his agenda is not wildly popular in the
marketplace right now? Does that make sense? Like I don't
even see a conflict of ideas that's possible because Democrats,
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it sort of feels, are drunkenly jumping from oh, we're
gonna go with a Breio Garcia, Oh we're gonna go
with the cost of eggs. Oh, the stock market is
not in an ideal position, and they just kind of
drunkenly move swerve from one argument to another, and there
is no uniting coalition of opposition behind it. Does that
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make sense? Which I think is only fracturing even more,
and I think it's gonna get worse because I think
the economy is going to be getting better in the
months ahead. Now, China obviously looms large in all of
this with the economy, with the tariffs, and this is
really I think for in my view, i'd be interesting.
(26:46):
This would be an interesting question to asked Trump. I'd
love to hear me. Well, we'll talk to them. I
think we're gonna go see the big guy in June.
Clay and I've been talking about this. We were going
to see them and see him sooner and his team.
But you know, I've got a little human who is
very dependent on mom and dad to be around, well,
particularly mom, let's be honest, but I try to help out.
So Clay has graciously agreed to let us push this
back to probably June. I think we'll do our time
(27:09):
with the President and some of his team, But I
would want to ask him. I think that in Trump's mind,
he has defeated the fake news media, which is which
I think is a totally fair assessment. I think he
has defeated the Democrat Party, right, he's not running again.
He won twice. He I know some of you're saying
he won three times, but he won twice officially. And
(27:30):
now I think he views his primary challenge as China.
I don't think he thinks the Democrats are who he
really has to focus on as much anymore. I think
he's really viewing China and the future of the China
US relationship and our ability to compete and continue to
be the dominant global force that we are is a
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huge part of Trump's legacy, so he sees this as important.
I don't think he wants to have an unnecessarily bellakos
relationship with China. He just wants us to be out
positioned and he wants things to be fair. He spoke
about this in this cabinet meeting. This is cut twenty five.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I know that China is doing very poorly right now.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I just saw some reports coming out, and I don't
want that to happen to China. I like the President
a lot, Presidentcy. I don't want it to happen.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I was.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I was actually.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Sanden to hear it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
But they are getting absolutely hammered in China, and you know,
they're sending boats, the biggest boats in the world carrying
cargo like nobody's ever seen before. These are the biggest
boats in the world, the biggest cargo ships in.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The world, and they're coming and they're turning around in
the Pacific Ocean. They're doing a big u turn and
going back because they don't want the goods because one
hundred and forty five percent ARRA. But at a certain point,
I hope we're going to make a deal with China.
We're talking to China, but their factories are closing all
over China because we're.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Not taking their product.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
We don't want their product unless they're going to be
fair with us, and that includes intellectual property and other things.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
There are a lot of things far beyond just by
seal Clay.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
He said, Look, he doesn't want to get into a
bare knuckle brawl for the foreseeable future with China over trade.
All they have to do is change some behavior and
we can all be nice. As Trump would say, I
will be very surprised if by August this isn't all resolved.
You can put me down on the prediction market. By August.
I think we'll get through the summer. I think what
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you will start to see in the next few days
is a lot of these new trade agreements will be
rolled out and they'll be better and they'll be more efficient,
and the market is gonna come to realize that this
is not the end of the world. And I think
by August China and the United States will have in
some way come to an agreement. That's my bet. I
(29:37):
think they want to get this thing resolved before we
get into the holiday season, because you need some finality
and certainty as you are getting retail set up for
the holiday season, which now buck by September, there Christmas
tree showing up in costcos you know, the Christmas creep
gets here sooner and sooner, and I think that will
(29:58):
be a time when we will have some resolution. So
I don't think this thing's going to stretch on forever.
I think both sides are going to sit down at
the table. I think we'll get a better deal than
we have right now, and by the summer, I think
you will start to see the larger marketplace start to fire.
I also think our boy Jerome Powell, inflation is coming down.
(30:22):
He needs to cut rates, and there's now a prediction
of four rate cuts before the end. I think Goldman's
newest forecast is that four rate cuts, a total point
rate cut that will also start to juice the economy,
maybe free up the housing market or so many of
you out there are sitting on those two and a
half or three percent mortgages. Congrats, but it's been a
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thousand gorillas versus a million humans into AI and during
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the commercial break this may not surprise any of you.
I have been sitting watching a battle between a million
humans and ten thousand gorillas to see what is likely
to happen. And I have not finished yet, but we
may get Buck's opinion on gorillas versus humans and who
would win the battle before all is said and done.
(32:42):
But we've got several other different stories that we are tracking.
What is going to happen with the immigration policies, of
the president. Has he stopped talking and with the cabinet yet?
I mean that was this was what like an hour
and a half Producer Ali that he talked to the
media and the cabinet met with the media nearly two
(33:04):
hours potentially. I know it was supposed to start at
eleven am Eastern. I think he'd started at like eleven
thirty or eleven forty and has been going for much
of the course of this program. We've been sharing some
of those elements with all of you, and as we
sit here on day one oh one, we're going to
be joined by Marsha Blackburn on the back half of
(33:26):
the program here at two thirty eastern. But I did
want to share this with you, Tim Walls, who I
believe has no political career left, and those of you
who are listening to us in Minnesota should be ashamed
that this man is your governor. By the way, the
cabinet meeting and the press availability following it went for
(33:47):
two hours and two minutes. What I mean that is
a long time. We do a three hour daily show here,
so he nearly gave us a run for our money.
And who could do the longest show? I will say
whatever your thoughts thoughts are on Trump. We have never
had a president answer more questions, and I'm certain we've
(34:09):
never had a cabinet answer more questions than what the
Trump administration first one hundred days have been like. That
is Trump is telling you exactly what he's going to
do and why. Tim Walls, speaking at Harvard University, said
that he was I guess this was a panel this
week at Harvard said that he was on the ticket
(34:32):
because he could code talk to white football fans and
also guys who like to fix their truck so that
they were more comfortable voting for Kamala Harris Buck, this
is crazy town. I know a lot of you out
there listening to us right now are football fans. Some
(34:54):
of you probably also pretty adept at working on trucks.
Are there any of you listening right now that think
that worked? I have said and I'll continue to say it.
Tim Walls is a lesbians idea of a man that
will appeal to men, and that perfectly personifies I think
the modern day Democrat Party. Did Tim Walls make you, guys,
(35:18):
football fans and car officionados out there, feel like you
could vote for Kamala and the Democrats more eight hundred
and two eight two two eight a two because that
is what can you believe this is real? This is
the argument he's making. Well, I think it's true. But
I also think that we saw that it. It's one
thing for it not to work. I think it backfired
(35:40):
because I think that there was something condescending to the
very people that the Democrats were trying to at the
last minute fool in this way. Oh yeah, you know,
we we got we got people that wear car hard
and go to Walmart and shoot guns at birds and
things too. Like it just doesn't it did. It didn't
(36:00):
seem authentic because it wasn't authentic because Tim Walls is
a communist and the whole thing was absurd. And so
I think that this it was worse than it didn't
work for them. I think it actually went against them,
using Walls for that group in that way. I think
that is one hundred percent accurate. Here is Tim Wall
saying it. This is starting to get a lot of
(36:21):
play for the reason that I believe Buck said, which
is this blew up in Democrats face, and I think
also reflects that they don't really have a strategy to
talk to normal guys, which was a huge part of
the twenty twenty four failure. Here is Walls explaining who
he was supposed to appeal to.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I was on the ticket, I would argue, because we
did a lot of amazing progressive things in Minnesota that
improved people's lives. But I also was on the ticket
quite honestly, you know, because I could code talk to
white guys watching football fixing their truck during that that
I could put them at ease. I was the permission
structure to say, look, you can do this and vote
for this. And you look across those swing states, with
(37:00):
exception of Minnesota, we didn't get enough.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Of those votes. I mean, they didn't even do that
well in Minnesota. I think the numbers reflected. I don't
have them in front of me right now, but that basically,
twenty twenty four Minnesota was not much different than twenty
twenty Minnesota. Now, twenty sixteen Minnesota was even closer. Trump
came within I think fifty thousand votes or so in
twenty sixteen of flipping Minnesota as well, and it was
(37:24):
relatively close and meaning five points or so if I
remember correctly. But Walls didn't even really add much to
the Minnesota support. You remember when Elizabeth Warren, she of
fake Native American heritage and tenured tenured professor of law
at Harvard University, was really making a go of it
(37:45):
for the presidency, or we knew she was going to,
and she did the whole Okay, I'm gonna get me
a beer, yes, and everybody was just like, you've never
said I'm gonna get me a beer before in your life.
In one Elizabeth Warren show it, she's like, oh, yeah,
I'm gonna imbibe some some prude hops and maybe have
(38:07):
I don't know, a bud feizer. I have said for
some time JBN should be the lesson for most politicians.
Just simplify it. Give me an acronym. JBIN stands for
just be normal. The number of politicians that can't just
be normal is off the charts. So but I have
to ask, I think some of these people are not normal.
(38:30):
So this is why they come across as trying hard
to be normal, because they're actually huge weirdos. Yeah. I
think there's a lot of truth to that, and there's
probably something for why politics draws that more because it's
also very strange to need to have constant affirmation from
(38:52):
random people that you don't know that they think you're
a good choice to do a job for them. I mean,
the whole idea of begging people to vote for you
is I think, just a strange way to make a
living personally. But it is interesting because what Walls is
saying is actually, I think why the Democrat Party is
(39:14):
in the brand is in the toilet right now. There's
lots of talk about, oh, what's Trump's approval rating and everything.
Trump's approval rating is probably nearly twenty points higher than
the national approval rating of any Democrat in America right now.
So if you say, okay, Trump's only got forty percent approval,
let's say it's a bad number, right forty percent of
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American's approve of Trump right now? What Democrat has twenty
five percent approval? I don't mean in the Democrat Party,
I mean nationwide. I don't think there's anybody even within
single digits of Trump when it comes to approval. And
so there's a lot of people who are upset about
the trajectory of the nation right now. Things cost too much.
There's a lot of upheaval. But the last time that
(40:00):
a Democrat ran for President and one Men nineteen sixty four.
Let me repeat that most of the anti Trump sentiment
in America is from women. Men are overwhelmingly on board
the Trump train. The last time the Democrat ticket won
(40:23):
the majority of male voters in America was nineteen sixty four.
That is, for many people a Holy Craft moment. So
this idea that the Democrat Party has suddenly begun to
struggle with men is false. What has actually happened is
they've just hit all time lows with men. They've been
(40:43):
struggling for sixty years, but now they are losing so
badly that even buck when they are trying to address
the issue, which is clearly paramount when it comes to
them winning elections, they end up with a guy like
Tim who, actually, I think you're right, even though he's
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designed to bring in men who like to hunt and
men who like football. Remember they introduced him at the
DNC not as Governor Walls, but as coach Walls. He
wasn't even a head coach, but they tried to turn
him into some sort of Eric Taylor Friday Night Lights
figure to appeal to men. I mean, it landed flat.
I think they should have called them choreographer Walls because
(41:26):
those jazz hands and his fat figures. Sometimes you know,
weirit fingers high leg kicks. I don't know did he
try out. I know he needed a job soon because
he's not gonna be able to be governor forever. Could
he be a rocket? I think if you put him
on the stage, he's got a good leg kick and
the rockets. I mean, that is not that is not
(41:46):
a light amount of work when you do those leg
kicks one after the other. I think, to be fair
to Tim Walls, I think he could leg kick like
a lot of women can leg kick, and maybe that
has appeal. I'll tell you one thing I think is interesting.
I've seen some of these stores worries out there, and
I've seen the re emergence of some some leftists from
the in media from the Obama era, and these efforts
(42:09):
to say, you know, well, this is the new Is
this the new masculine face of the Democrat party? You know,
is this the new? Like the badass bro and all
of these people they put forward. I'm like, no, no,
And then you think to yourself, this is amazing. I mean,
there are a lot of Democrats out there, a lot
of Democrats in the media. This is the best they've
got to just appeal the normal guys who like guy things.
(42:33):
The people they're putting forward do not do not answer
the mail, so to speak. It does not get it done. No,
And look, I mean it wasn't just Tim Walls that
she was considering. Remember it was Shapiro, who I think
you've rightly said, has the unfortunate for Democrats these days religion. Right.
I don't think they can put a Jewish guy on
the ticket, even if he's in the most important state,
(42:54):
and that is a huge indictment of the It would
cost them. It would cost the Michigan. I think they
know that. I mean I think that that's Look, look
what just happened in his last election. Democrats had problems
in Michigan in the first place. Uh, but I think
it would cost the Michigan to have a Democrat as
the top of the ticket, no question about it. And
then you've got JB. Pritzker, who we said has got
the same issue that Frankly Chris Christie had, which is
(43:17):
you're not gonna elect I don't think America is going
to elect a four hundred pound dude. I'm sorry, I mean,
maybe if he was two sixty instead of four hundred,
maybe people change their minds. He's also a constant, you know,
because I'm sympathetic to this. Then you know, I've talked
about how I've been getting I've gotten back into like
reasonable shape now and I'm still going and going trying
to get better shape all the time. The guy's a
(43:39):
billionaire like I. You know, if you gain thirty or
forty pounds because you were working double shifts and you're
trying to provide for your family and you know, you're
just you're ereating on down hamburgers and French fries because
you're trying to feel save money and eat fast. Yep,
totally sympathetic, no judgments. The society that we live in
Priority ties is more hours at the desk, less time
(44:03):
out there. It's easier to get fast, crappy food, and
it has you know all that. So I'm this dude's
a billionaire. You're a billionaire in the era of Jay,
you know, get a private chef, get on some GLP ones.
I mean, the guy is morbidly obese. Like again, it's
not about that shaming. It's about you couldn't responsibly elect
(44:24):
this guy to be president because his health is such
obviously an issue you couldn't protect. You couldn't think this
guy could serve eight years without there being huge problems.
And also he's got the same problem in the Gavin
Newsom does, which is he's actually been an awful governor.
Everybody is leaving Illinois, Everybody is leaving California. Chicago's a
great place to live. The mayor's got a six percent
(44:45):
approval rating because Democrats have done a really poor job
of governing in places like Illinois, in California, and so
Andy Basheer, we got a huge audience in Kentucky. I'm
sorry that guy has the woest masculinity reading on the planet.
I think Kentucky should be embarrassed who have elected him twice.
(45:07):
His daddy was the governor's the reason he got elected.
He did awful with COVID, he shut down churches, he
didn't let kids go to school and play sports. Like
the fact that Kentucky elected this guy twice is I
think an incredible embarrassment for this thing. Look look at
also some of the mandatory beliefs that if you're going
to be a Democrat at the national level in good
(45:30):
standing with the base and with the Democrat machine. You
have to you have to do what say that guy
John Oliver did on HBO regily, He's like, is there
really evidence that men are better at sports than women?
He's like, yes, you little moron. Yeah, of course, of
course there's it's called all of human history. We're all
very but you have to say these things that no
(45:53):
normal guy will say, No normal red blooded American man
is like, you know, I'm a feminist and I think
that you know, the transagender for kids is a good idea. Like,
so this is there's a bit of self selection that's
gone on here, right, it was, it was different twenty
years ago. This has been a shift in the culture,
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and a real one. And I know it's topic of
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Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app
or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in play
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. We are now joined by Senator from the
great state of Tennessee, where I reside.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I last saw her for a fundraiser I believe for
the Nashville Davidson County Republican Party. That was a fun event.
Senator Blackburn, I know you're focused on a lot of things,
but let's start off right here. It's day one oh one.
How would you rate the first one hundred days of Trump?
And where is the Senate when it comes to getting
(48:28):
this big budd big beautiful bill done? What can you
tell us about it all?
Speaker 7 (48:33):
Well? For President Trump's first hundred days, promise is made,
promises kept, and he has done it in grand fashion
the way he is moving forward, securing the border, getting
inflation down, making certain he's restoring our standing in the world,
(48:54):
and something very important to me, and I know you
also is getting men out of when than sports a man.
So I think you've had a very good one hundred days.
And it is up to the House in the Senate
to make certain that we pass this bill, the Reconciliation Bill,
that we make permanent the tax cuts from twenty seventeen.
(49:19):
And you know, the important thing to remember on that
is that if we cannot get this passed, then the
American people will have the largest tax height in history.
It will be a four trillion dollar increase in their taxes.
So it is imperative, absolutely imperative that we get this
(49:44):
job done.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Center Blackburn, thanks for being here with us. I know
after you talked to us here, you're going to meet
the White House invest in America event. What's going on
with that. We know what Trump has been up to
policy wise up to this point. Talk about the one
hundred day, the one hundred days in yesterday and looking
at what has been a phenomenal start for his second term.
(50:07):
But what can you tell us about investing in America
and some of the plans, deals, programs, et cetera that
Trump's trying to get accomplished.
Speaker 7 (50:17):
Yes, what we know is that there has been five
trillion dollars of investment committed in the US since President
Trump took office. Now this is a combination of direct
foreign investment and also American private investment. Tennessee has been
(50:37):
the recipient of some of this. We have We've had
thirty companies and twelve hundred jobs and one point two
billion dollars already invested in Tennessee since President Trump was
elected in November. And this is twelve hundred jobs. Now,
(50:58):
part of that is private, part of that this direct
foreign investment in our state. But it proves the point
that people want to invest in America. They know that
they want access to our market. They know that if
they manufacture here, they're not going to pay the tariffs.
So whether it's Schneider Electric or Abb Electronics or Charms
(51:20):
Candy Company, they all are expanding and creating jobs in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
AI is a rapidly advancing tech revolution that I think
many people are still getting their hands kind of wrapped
around what the impact is going to be. I have
read about what one of the things that you have
written a letter to Facebook slash Meta about there's lots
of AI now and I was kind of stunned by
(51:48):
this because I barely I'm gonna be honest with y'all,
I barely used AI. But these chatbots, evidently, while engaging
with miners who might be using them, are engaged sometimes
in sexually explicit related interactions. For people out there who
don't know about this, I think this is important for
(52:08):
parents and grandparents to know. What is that investigation shown?
Speaker 7 (52:13):
Oh my goodness, this is one of the most disgusting
and horrifying things that has come about. Meta has created
this chat box, and what the investigation this was reported
in the Wall Street Journal is it engages in sexually
explicit conversation with individuals and miners use this. There are
(52:41):
no safeguards. This is why we need to pass that
Kids Online Safety Act. There are no safeguards and the
explicit nature of this is something that is just horrifying.
I have talked to moms of teenagers that cannot even
believe that Matta knows this is a problem. They know
(53:04):
how it is being used, and they will not take
it offline, so it is appearing on WhatsApp, Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat,
and this is the kind of thing that needs to
be bought. You know, you can't take a child into
a pornographic show or an X rated movie, or take
(53:28):
them to a liquor store strip club, but they're exposed
to this in the virtual space twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week, and the fact that this is
happening is absolutely horrifying.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Senator Blackburn, are you sensing any pushback from your Senate
Democrat colleagues in terms of dealing with this problem. There
are some areas where I think we would all like
to believe, we'd like to believe at least I know
it's not perfect. That there is a bypart and desire
still that exists, and it's protecting children. I think would
(54:03):
be high on that list. Is this something you think
that legislation could get done in a bipartisan way to
protect the kids or what's.
Speaker 7 (54:11):
The whole The Kids Online Safety Act passed through the
Senate on a ninety one to three vote yes, and
it failed in the House. You had Speaker Johnson and
Leadersclife who did not bring the bill forward. At the
end of the last Congress, Senator Blomenthall and I are
(54:33):
refiling the bill in the next week, and we are
going to push it through in the Senate again and
give our friends over in the House opportunity to join us,
so we can get this to President's Trump President Trump's
desk and put a duty of care on the social
(54:53):
media platforms so that you are able to block them
and that parents and kids have a toolbox and can
disable some of these algorithms so that kids are not
exposed to these things in the virtual space.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Well, why is Facebook? I mean, this clearly is not
a good you know, it is not a good area.
You would think for them to be in opposition. You know, parents,
You've got bipartisan Senate vote for this, she said, you know,
over ninety votes. Going, what are they just saying it's
technologically difficult for them to handle this problem? Or what
are the social media companies, specifically Facebook saying?
Speaker 7 (55:33):
Yeah, But what they do is they use our children
as a profit center because their value is based off
the number of eyeballs that they can connect with every
day and the amount of time that they can hold
those eyeballs. So the longer they can keep a kid
(55:56):
scrolling or listening or looking the better off they are
as far as their profit goes. You know, Meta even
assigned a dollar value to each kid that is on
their site. I think the dollar value was two hundred
and forty seven dollars and that that's what the profit
(56:17):
margin is on that kid for a year. And it
is disgusting the way they have treated our children, what
they are exposing them to, this chat box that they
have created is over the top. There are parents that
are saying this has got to be taken down. And
Senator blumensaal and I wrote Mark Zuckerberg. We have not
(56:41):
heard one word back from him. There is no one
from Metta that has reached out to say, hey, we
get it, We're taking this down.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Senator Blibern, I know you're going to be at the
White House here in a little bit for a Trump address.
You have known Trump for a long time now, basically
his entire political career. You were there for the first
term of Trump, and now you're there for Trump two
point h y How is he different, if at all,
so far as you can tell through the first hundred days.
(57:13):
What is different about Trump two point zero compared to
Trump one point zero?
Speaker 7 (57:18):
He is so focused on getting things done. And you know,
as I say, promises made, promises kept are the way
to sum up his first one hundred days and play.
When you look at the intentionality that he approaches every
single day with, it is really quite remarkable. He came
(57:40):
into office knowing what he was going to do. He
started in on those executive orders. He said, we're going
to get this border secure, We're going to get inflation down,
and he has done it. And people that I am
talking with every single day are so grateful to have
a president committed to action on behalf of the American people.
(58:06):
And even when you look at tariffs and there's all
this talk around tears, people are very patient. They say,
we do want to get the cost of living down.
We want to get it down long term. We do
want to get the cost of government down. We want
to get it down long term so that our kids
and grandkids can experience the American dream. We want to
(58:27):
make certain that government is smaller and more manageable, and
that power and authority and money is sent back to
the state. And that is what Donald Trump is doing.
Every single day. He is focused on what is happening
on main street in our communities, he is focused on
(58:47):
prosperity for all Americans, and that is why I think
it's so appropriate that he uses the phrase the Golden
age of America.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
Amen, I sider A Blackburn, look forward to talking to
you again soon. Have a good time at the White House,
and we appreciate the time today.
Speaker 7 (59:04):
You got it. Take care bet now.
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