May 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a high-energy Friday edition, diving into the latest political controversies and cultural commentary. The hour centers around explosive allegations, political analysis, and exclusive interviews, making it a must-listen for conservative talk radio fans and political news followers.
The show opens with a discussion about former FBI Director James Comey’s controversial Instagram post featuring seashells arranged to spell “8647,” which Clay and Buck interpret as a veiled threat against former President Donald Trump. They explore the symbolism behind the numbers—“86” being slang for elimination and “47” referencing Trump as the 47th president—and question Comey’s intent. The hosts criticize Comey’s history of political grandstanding and suggest he may face legal scrutiny for the post. They also highlight Comey’s previous social media activity, including a similar seashell post supporting Kamala Harris, reinforcing their belief that the former FBI director is engaging in politically charged messaging.
The conversation transitions to a major interview with Congressman Jim Jordan, who discusses newly uncovered emails suggesting that pharmaceutical companies may have delayed announcing the COVID-19 vaccine’s readiness in 2020 to avoid benefiting Trump’s reelection campaign. Jordan argues that this suppression of information could have influenced the outcome of the 2020 election, especially in key battleground states like Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona. He also outlines key elements of a new Republican-backed bill, including tax cuts, work requirements for welfare recipients, and funding to secure the southern border.
Clay and Buck further analyze the political implications of the Comey post, with Trump himself weighing in during a clip played on-air. Trump calls the post a clear call for assassination and criticizes Comey’s judgment. The hosts praise Trump’s measured response and emphasize the seriousness of the situation, questioning whether Comey will face consequences.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the activities that are taking place right now. But let
me give you a little bit of a road map.
Congressman Jim Jordan going to join us at twelve thirty
he has uncovered emails suggesting yet another conspiracy was correct,
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which is the COVID shot was hidden from voters in
twenty twenty. Now we know that ultimately the COVID shot
became to a large extent worthless, but it would have
likely swung the election. If there had been an opportunity
for people to know in November, hey, we think we
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have a COVID shot vaccine. Trump would have surged in
the polls. I really do believe this, and that, among
many other aspects, might well have decided the election given
how close things were in twenty twenty in Wisconsin, Georgia,
and Arizona. So we're going to talk about that story
with Jim Jordan. We're also going to be joined by
our friend Nicole Parker, former FBI agent. Big news coming
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out from Cash Pattel about the choices that he is
going to make regarding the FBI jag Or Hoover headquarters building,
but also the story that I wanted to start with
that happened yesterday in the afternoon. James Comey, former head
of the FBI from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen, who
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effectively out of nowhere, helped to create the idea of
Russia collusion as it pertained to Trump's election victory. In
twenty sixteen, posted a Instagram message photo of seashells arranged
so that the numbers eight six four seven were shown.
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He claimed that he had just been walking on the
beach and seen it. Interestingly, buck and this is me
going full Sherlock Holmes. I was on with Jesse Waters
last night, and my prep for that was something I
didn't expect that I would ever end up doing, which
was going through James Comey's past Instagram post, and prior
to that, he had found a seashell also on the
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beach that raculously was painted to endorse Kamala Harris, and
he had shared that. So I am not the greatest
investigator who has ever lived. But if you are posting
multiple seashell stories to give political opinions, it would suggest
to me that the former head of the FBI did
this eight six four seven, or some of his friend's
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family whoever he was hanging out with. He had to
know what this meant. Otherwise it's just a super weird
thing to post. And he now claims that he had
no idea about it at all. What was your reaction, Buck,
And for those of you who don't know and may
not have seen this story, eight six is basically, take
somebody out. Donald Trump is obviously the forty seventh president
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of the United States. In pretty much any parlance that
would be associated I would imagine with any sort of
investigative branch, this would be a call to arms, a
suggestion that Trump, who has already survived to assassinate attempts,
should be killed by someone. What was your reaction when
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you saw it? Were you as stunned as I was?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Buck?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I think that James Comy was the single worst bureaucrat
of the twenty first century until Fauci came along. And
maybe he's a little jealous of all the attention for
Fauci's awfulness and decided that he wanted to be in
the headlines again. I would say this is so shockingly stupid,
But if you've actually spent any time thinking about, learning
about reading about James Comy, he is truly, I think,
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a pathological narcissist and has created this narrative in his
head where he is the greatest and most ethical human
being alive in America, maybe in the world, and does
not believe that anybody else can. I mean, that's why
I used to call him Sancto Comy. I mean, he's
the most sanctimonious person, may even be more sanctimonious than Fauci.
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And he put the country through a horrible ordeal, largely
orchestrated himself. I mean, just to take a step back
here for a few mon moments, as we are looking
at this issue, James Comey bragged about sending FBI agents
to go ambush the incoming National Security Advisor with a
perjury trap over nothing, because he said that he thought
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it was a violation of the Logan Act, a law
that has never been success never been used in two
hundred plus years to prosecute anybody ever. So he thinks
he is too clever and then some and he's not
nearly clever enough because Donald Trump is president now and
he destroyed his entire whatever belief he had that he'd
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go down in the history books of some kind of hero. No,
he is a shmo of the first order. He is
the absolute worst, and he got right alongside Fauci. And
you also, just for those who want to take a
little trip down memory lane with me on this clay,
you know, that he was the US attorney who pushed
very hard to prosecute Martha Stewart and make sure that
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she served jail time just because he was showboating. He's
the ultimate prosecutorial show boat, which is a menace, a
menace in a free society. Somebody who thinks I'm going
to ruin someone else's life and take away their freedom
because of how it will make me look in the newspapers.
That is the last person that you want to be
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making tough calls about prosecution and wielding the power of
the state. Fauchi, I mean, Fauci Komy is a really
malignant force in America. He knew exactly what he was doing,
but I guess he didn't think past the implications of
Your buddies aren't calling the shots at the FBI anymore, Kmy.
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Now it's Cash Battel and Dan Bongino, and they don't
think you're a little subtle threat to the President of
the United States is clever. They think it's a crime
and he's going to have to have some explaining.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
To do here.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's super weird too, a guy sixty four years old.
So the idea that you would decide I remember all
the Instagram photos he used to post of himself, like
staring at lakes during the Russia collusion thing. The guy's
is in love with himself. He's a weirdo, Clay, a weirdo. Sorry,
I was gonna say. I mean, I understand when you're
a nineteen or twenty year old influencer that you're posting
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photos all the time from the beach. This whole thing
is very strange to me. I thought when this story popped,
I was like, there's no way this guy could be
this much.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Of a moron. Part of me is thinking, is he
begging to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Because it's so awfully dumb for someone who has been
in charge of the FBI to be suggesting in any
way that the President of the United States should be killed,
and to do it with seashells on the beach.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
It's just a very It's like a beta male threat
against the president. I mean, this is like the low
te terrorist extraordinaire.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's insane, But Clay, it's also a reminder that these people,
people who who threw their everything they had into destroying Trump,
they're they're actually not very bright, and they're weirdos, and
they had a lot of power in government before Trump
came along. Some of the people that he has exposed
just by existing. He's on us, Trump, I meaning Trump,
(08:17):
Trump has on us a huge favor because all these
wackados at the top of the government bureaucracy showed us
who they are.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, it's a good point. It has led to a
great collection of memes of people posting their own seashell
messages on the beach. But I just like, if you're
a grown man and you are posting pictures of seashells,
I'm just like, what is going on in your world?
What is going on in your mind? And to have
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done it twice and then to claim that you don't
know who did it, which is now his claim. They
posted a seashell photo to endorse Kamala Harris, and then
there's a seashell photo of a call to kill Trump
and you claim that you just took a photo and
posted it. I mean, it's not an insubstantial amount of
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time that it would have taken to make a ceashell message.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And I just I don't I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And I hope that he is already being questioned about this,
but part of me thinks that it does he want
to be arrested, like this is just such a dumb
thing to do.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
No, he's so used to playing these little sanctimonious games
in public that I think play he thought with with
the usual Komi's sophistream and do you remember when I
mean he really he presents himself like a blameless friar
from you know, the medieval period or something. He's like, Oh,
I was just doing a Russia collusion. I just pursuing
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the Bureau's prerogatives. I just you know, he is such
a phony boloney and now he's doing this. Oh, I
didn't think about what the implications of this would be.
You're the FBI director.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's my thing.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
It's so weird, like what there's what lee Way should
you get for Iden? First of all, did he give
anyone else ever in his career the Oh I didn't
think that was actually a crime when I did it, Leeway,
I don't think so. And secondly, you would know this.
You should know this better than anybody that that's not
something that you should play games with. And even beyond
the there's the legality of this, and he's gonna fight it,
(10:19):
and he's gonna say that it's like, you know, this
is a free speech and it doesn't actually what those
are just numbers, just like the uh, what is the
marijuana plant? Smiley face? One three on the guys. It's
just a coincidence, Clay, It's a one in ten. It's
a one in ten trillion coincidence that that guy Abrego
Garcia happened to have those things on his knuckles, which
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anybody would look at and go, I think I know
what you're doing here, But but they're a coincidence. Theorists
and and Komy is so used to getting away with
insulting our intelligence and that's what he's doing once again.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And I don't know what what should the concerence? So
let's pretend you are in charge of investigating this, which
is unfortunately should be totally unnecessary, right, I mean, the
fact that we have to spend time on something this dumb.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
He's going to I can tell you what he's gonna do.
He's not going to get criminally, they're not going to
be able to criminally nail him on this. And don't
get mad at me if I'm wrong, I'll come on
and apologize. I'm just telling you what's going to happen. Okay,
if I'm wrong, I'll say I was wrong. They are
charging him and they're taking seriously.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Should they? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But should they? And will they? Is not the same question, right,
I think, Clay, what he's going to do here is
he's going to say I observed something, and I shared
what I observed.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And if anything, you want to know how sanctimonious Comy is?
You ready for this? Everybody?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
If this was any kind of threat against Trump, Comy
will claim by sharing it, I exposed the threat. That's
who James Comy is. Here's a good question for you. Well,
I'm wait, is there any reason why he wouldn't be
able to do that? Clay, think of this one through
for a second. Given that he says he didn't even
know what the numbers meant. You don't think he'd pull
that off?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, I wonder, usually you don't take only one photo
on your phone. I would think that his phone will
get seized. And I would wonder whether there is evidence
of who did this, meaning him or someone else? A
video like think about it? And I went to my
fourth grade talent competition, not mine, my fourth grader's talent
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show today, and I took a bunch of different pictures
and videos, usually on social media. And I'm going to
sound like a twenty three year old Instagram influencer right now.
You take multiple photos and choose the one that you
think best reflects what the message is that you want
to get out there that you post on Instagram. So
my thought on this, and again I'm not s Sherlock Holmes,
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but I do have a little bit of experience, is
that his phone is likely to have multiple versions of
this photo and or potentially a video or evidence of
who did this. And I think his phone's probably going
to get seized. And so I think he did this right,
Like I don't think it's very likely that in some
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way that he had no knowledge of some person he did.
I didn't know it all wrote down eighty six forty
seven in Shells and James Comy, who happens to hate Trump,
is walking down the beach and takes a photo.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
The one, the one that I think is the is
the toughest for the Komy defense is what you told
me that he has other shell a seashell syle message,
a Kamala message. And this is how comy. This is
like finger painting by James Kmy. I mean, we're gonna
we'll see it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Just again, go in full Sherlock Holmes, here buck, how
many seashell photos have you posted with political messages ever
in your life on Instagram?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know the answer? Zero?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, so me, you and I combined have never posted
a political message with seashells.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I bet, But that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Doesn't go on his defense. His defense is going to
be that he found it. So unless he has photos
of him making it, he's gonna say I stumbled upon
this on the beach and I was.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like, I understand that's going to be his defense. I
just don't think that he only took one photo. I
think there's gonna be evidence on his phone and that
he may try to delete. I'm telling you think about it.
Come on, how often don't come about it? Think about it?
How often when you post something on Instagram? I only
want twenty five year olds in younger here to respect.
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Nobody only takes one.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
So if he has multiple photos, just say he took
multiple photos. Don't unless you have a photo of him
placing the stones, which would be truly insane.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, I'm saying I think there will be photos. I
think it was like his kid, or it was somebody
in his group and they were joking around and they
took a photo. I think they took a this is
my prediction. They took a series of photos joking around.
Then he said, Hey, should I post this? Oh it's
gonna get Maga so worked up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Hahaha.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They're drinking wine like a couple of losers on the beach.
I got this whole story in my head, and I
think that's the story. I think I think he may
have created a big mess for himself here, as big
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Speaker 4 (16:19):
All right, one person who does not find Tomy the
least bit funny or clever is Donald Trump, because he
had to suffer through Comy's nonsense in the past, and
here is the president speaking about the eight six, four
to seven posts that Komy put out.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Play it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
He knew exactly what that meant. A child knows what
that meant.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
If you're the FBI director and you don't know what
that meant, that meant assassination.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
And it says it loud and clear.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough
to know what that meant.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
And he did it for a reason.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
And he was hit so hard because people like me,
they like what's happening with our country has become respected
again and all this and he's calling for the assassination
of the president.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Obviously, he apologized and said, look, he's a very what
do you want to see happen? What do you want
to see happening.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I don't want to take a position on it, because
that's going to be up to Pam and all of
the great people.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But I will say this, I think it's a terrible thing.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think Trump handled that perfectly. I think he's right.
Don't take a position on it. Let the system exactly
like if Kmy was still in the system and making
these decisions. Let the people in charge look at what happened,
what the statutes are on what's happened with other people
in similar situations.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's a perfect answer, honestly, because he's the president, he
shouldn't be dictating that decision, certainly not publicly, and let
him look at it see how it's to your point,
how that precedent has been handled. I find it hard
to believe that any former FBI director in the history
of the United States has ever posted anything or said
anything that could publicly encourage the assassination of the president
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Speaker 2 (18:54):
We head up to Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Did you be joined by our good buddy, Congressman Jim
Jordan of Ohio. Lots to get into with him on
a variety of different subjects, but let's start off right
off the top of here. A big beautiful bill making
its way through the House and the Senate some uh,
some uh, maybe some challenges.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Along the way.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
What should the audience out there know about where this
is and where it's headed.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, I mean I think in the end, good beautif
you guys, I think in the end we get there
because sort of one I've always thought this one sort
of overriding fact is we're the party that's as we
don't raise taxes, and if we don't get this pass,
taxes go up on the families we get there representing
and just one of the hallmark, you know, basic fundamental
principles of the Republican Party. As we think moms and
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dad should keep more of their money to spend on
their goals, their dreams, their kids, they're they're objectives in
their communities. We think businesses to keep more of their
money to plow back into their business to expand and
grow and help our economy, which ultimately leads to more
revenue coming into the treasury. So we're for lower taxes.
So I think in the end we get there. We
had a little setback here a few minutes ago in
the Budget Committee, but we'll keep working and I think
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we get this still done.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
What's the most beautiful thing in the big beautiful bill
or the most beautiful thing if you're just giving us
some top lines, Congressman, so we know what's in there,
because let's be honest, very few people out there are
going to read the entirety of the bill. But if
it gets through, what should we be excited about?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Two things? One that it just what I talked about.
There'll be tax cuts for American families and business, R
and D expansion, all the things that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Helped me not to interrupt you.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
New tax cuts, not just like making old tax cuts
that Trump had permanent.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Both of those, both of us will happen. I think
that is I think that is huge. Second, work requirements.
You know, if you're able body to know what one
of the one of the things. You guys all know this.
Y'all had jobs. I mean I remember my brother and
I we mowed country lawns. You know, you learn to work,
You learned the satisfaction of a job well done, You
learn to interact with customers, are going to need to
keep the schedule. It's all important things. And if you
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don't have people work who are able bodying, they just
live off the taxpayer. That is not good for taxpayers.
It's not good for our economy. Most importantly, it's not
good for the people who get robbed of learning what
we all learned with those first jobs. So that the
work requirement elements that we have in there for people
receiving public assistance. And then finally, this came directly from
our committee. The resources we have sent to the administration
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to make sure our border stay secure. It's already secure
what President Trump and the team have done Stephen Miller,
Tom Holme, and Christy No. But what they've done is amazing.
But we want to make sure they have the resources
that came from our committee. So I think those are
sort of the three big things that I think are
just key principles and things we talked about in the
campaign that are in this bill.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You had a big revelation about the potential it appears
attempt to keep news about the COVID shot and the
progress that was being made from being released right before
the election, because theoretically it would have been beneficial to Trump.
And I've always found it, I know many people out
there did. Is well, super suspicious that within I don't know,
(22:03):
a week or ten days after the election, we suddenly
found out that there have been very good progress being
made on the COVID shot.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Now, I'm not getting into the efficacy of the COVID
shot going forward, but in October of twenty twenty, if
there had been an expectation of a COVID vaccine, I
think Trump would have won.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't think it would have been close. What happened?
What have you uncovered?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, no, Clay, I agree with you whatever think about
the vaccine. I personally didn't get it, but it's still
you know, you got to go back to the text then,
and it wasn't a week after it was a day
after the election. Was November third, November Crazy Joe Biden's
declared winner. November eighth, they go shazam, the results are great.
It's like, well you believe that when you knew? Yeah,
So this guy and this guy tells He goes to
(22:45):
a subsequent pharmaceutical company, Glasgow Smith's Cline, and he tells
them after this past presidential election, when President Trump wins,
he says, uh, you know, I'd like to get transferred
to Canada. And because it's no coincidence on the timing
of the results back in twenty twenty, well, you don't
ask leave the country if you didn't do something wrong.
So we sent a letter to this doctor. We want
to we want to, you know, we want to depose him.
(23:06):
And then we sent a letter to Pfiser where he
worked when they were developing this vaccine and doing the
test that he said that they slowed down their results
getting to the public. And again remember the context. You
couple that with all the mail in ballots, with the
fifty one former Intel officials who worked with the Biden
campaign to put up that stupid letter that was false
(23:28):
saying the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian information operation. All
that Trump wins if they don't do all that stuff.
We understand that so and those kind of things just
aren't supposed to happen. So we're gonna we're gonna dig
into this and find out what really took place.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Cox and Jordan, I know you only have a minute
before you got a run.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I just wanted to get your reaction to what is
kind of an unexpected but still a major news story
of the day, which is you've dealt with Comy in
the past. You're familiar with this fellow. Ye, what the
heck is he thinking sharing this eighty six forty seven
seashells thing? Like, does it surprise you at all?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Or do you think that this guy have you always
known he was such a weirdo.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I mean, I guess we're all surprised. I mean, like,
what are you doing this for? And then I was
surprised that he said, well, I think he said that
it was just on the beach and I took a
picture of it. Did come on? He probably arranged this thing.
I mean, you got to be kidding me. So, but
then you think about it, Comy, I probably deposed I
said this earlier to someone today. I probably said in
more deposition. More transcribed interviews than just about any member
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of Congress over the last fifteen years. And certain people
when they're in a deposition, their attitude just they're they're arrogance.
You just see it. You just like Komy was almost like,
how dare some country hillbilly from western Ohio asked me
Jim Comy questions And it's like he was like Clapper
and Brennan frankly when certain people. So I just think
(24:56):
he wants attention. It was stupid, It was wrong, and
God bless Christine for in secret service, for investigating the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
One last question here is I know you're busy, and
we appreciate you coming on today all of the revelations
that are coming out about Joe Biden, and suddenly Democrats
are saying, how could we have possibly known? A Democrat
media like Jake Tapper is saying, boy, were we ever
snookered here? We had no idea this was going on?
Why would it not make sense? And you can tell
me if I'm crazy on this. Given the fact that
(25:25):
Democrats had primetime hearings on jan six, and that may
have been beneficial and impactful for them in the midterms
because enough people paid attention and were willing to buy
the story that they were telling. Why would it not
be beneficial to bring all these Biden aids in, put
them under oath, question them about what they actually saw,
and hold Democrats responsible for the question that I think
(25:46):
you probably still have too. Who the heck's been running
the country for the past few years, given that Biden
didn't have the mental or physical capability.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, well we know who was running it.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
That.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
We know who was running it in foreign policy was
the whole darned team that Clinton and Obama had, Jake Sullivan,
Wendy Sherman, Bilbern Tony Blanket. But we never really kind
of knew who was running domestic politic he was really
making the call over there. But yeah, you're right, Jake
Tapper lied to us for four years and now he
writes a book and is making money telling us the truth.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I mean, you can't make this amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
So so I do think that makes sense. But I
think step one in this process is getting the her tapes.
And this is why we were after him for you know,
we were after him for the last year and a half. Whenever,
whenever Robert Hurt testified and conveyed to us just you know,
he wasn't going to prosecute, but just how bad that
interview was he told us it. But we'd like to
we'd actually like to have the audio tapes, which we
know exist and the Justice Department refused to refuse to
(26:37):
give to us. We think we're going to get those
public heres soon. I think that's step one, and you
you we'll see how they play out. But if it's
anything like the transcript, I think it's it's going to
be pretty good or pretty interesting, I should say, And
then we can go to some of these people after that.
But I think that's that's sort of step one and
any investigation that we do.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Good stoppers.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And Ordan appreciate you, sir, you bet, thanks, Thanks all
you guys do take care.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well there we have it.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, no, I mean I appreciate him making the time
because I think as always super impactful to hear from him.
And uh, you know, there's gonna be a lot of
talk about what exactly is taking place on the on
that bill, but I feel pretty good and I'm sure
you'll use.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You to break news break news in the Wall Street Journal.
Big Beautiful Bill stalled after being blocked by conservative House Republicans.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
But I feel a little bit like this with this,
like I do about the what do they always get
shut down? Or the debt debt, government shutdowns, debt ceilings.
I would be stunned beyond belief if this doesn't end
up getting passed at some point in the near future.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Are you suggesting play that in the Congress sometimes there
is pointless grandstanding by members who have no intention of
changing anything but want a little attention.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I would maybe possibly be suggesting that that is almost
exactly what's going to happen here, and eventually it's going
to pass, So I would be I would be stunned
if that isn't the ultimate reaction before all is said
and done.
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Speaker 4 (30:38):
We've got a lot of emails, a lot of talkbacks,
a lot of calls. Love chatting with all of you
all across this great country of ours. Uh, let's jump
into this one. Graham Vip Graham Rights in the special
email box, low t Terrorist, What a great description. Little
call me knows there is chalk and awe headed his way.
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Nice little shout out to a wonderful chalk sponsor. But
one thing about Comy that you have to be aware of.
He is definitely not little. He is He is Jesse
Kelly tall. In fact, I don't know if Comy or
Jesse Kelly is taller. They both frequently hit their heads
on rooftops walking around in people's homes, so I don't
know who is bigger, but they are very like six'
(31:21):
nine ish six ten maybe For, comy very, large AND
i bet he's terrible still at. BASKETBALL i can't stop
laughing about how weird it is to take photos of
seashells if you're a grown man with a functional, penis
and it's not like your grandkid who is you know
out or your kids that are, like oh, look we're
making sand castles or. Seashells or whatever else and to
(31:44):
have done it multiple. Times i'm telling you this guy
has Got if they seize his, phone which they, SHOULD
i think it will provide direct evidence that he did.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It, now then it.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Turns into buck, WELL i didn't know what eighty six forty,
Seven so you're just randomly make a free make a
free speech.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Case.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
NO I i have already given him his, defense which
is THAT i shared this as a warning BECAUSE i
saw somebody else did.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
This the problem is.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
The post of what he said is different than like
when he initially posted. It he was, like, haha look at,
this and then he took it down and put up
a new, post which was, basically, OH i you, know
had no idea of the significance of those up.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Together, well he's gonna he's claiming cooked. Himself that's.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Classic, uh let's do a a A Nashville tennessee, listener not,
identify but one of Your nashville, people play a play.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
It, yes playing.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
BET i have gotten mad at my.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
LIFE i.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Drift she brought them Up buffalo and a, dog AND.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
I was mad because she brought the dog man because
we had discussed weren't getting a dog until the.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Time so it's, normal have a good.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Day well thank?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You did he say a buffalo though he was mad
about the, dog not the. Buffalo seems like would take
a lot, more a lot more f to demand.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
SOMEBODY i think. Somebody i'm not making this up BECAUSE
i see these. Headlines animal headlines always stick out of
my you, know because this is why ever clicks on.
THEM i think someone just got gored in Maybe yellowstone
or one of The national, parks just, recently getting too
close to a. Buffalo AND i just what part of
this is a massive mound of muscle with horns and
(33:22):
Wild do people not? UNDERSTAND i don't.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Telling you these people Like Jim, comey who Are instagram
photo takers all the. Time look at the number of
people who fall to their death taking An instagram. PHOTO i,
mean this is a legit, epidemic you know.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
WHAT i know this has happened before people in The
National parks have gotten close To usually they're smart enough
not to.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Do it with, bears because that's truly. It, like you,
know everyone knows bears.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Are scary and, Fast but buffalo when you've seen, them
you know they're kind of just hanging. Out they don't
look they are much faster than, you and they are
aggressive if they feel, threatened and they're, huge you, know
they weigh, LIKE i don't, know twelve hundred pounds or,
something or fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Pounds, yeah it's.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
NUTS i want to hear if people buy My Jim
comey on The Beach Analysis Sherlock holme. Style he took multiple.
Photos he's gonna get caught because they're gonna seize his
phone and maybe he just has to issue a public.
APOLOGY i don't know if they're going to officially arrest,
him BUT i just don't buy that he took one
photo of the seashells and happened to post.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
It angela From Chandler arizona On this IS. Cc she
Says clay AND i kind of back you up on,
this SO i take the heat on this. Too rinsing
fruit is not just for, pesticides PLAY, Cc clay And.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Bob the ten second rule for fruit under the water
is not for. Pesticide it's for all of the dirty
people's hands and snotty. Noses they were touching the fruit
while they were choosing the apples and trying to eliminate
a little bit of a, viral you know movement among
cremwe it's to remove you, know people's, fill not to stop.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Pesticize and, oy, okay let me fire back At. Angela
angela sounds Like i'm gonna just be a stereotype. Here
she may have been a mom at some point in,
time because that sounds like a mom message for. Us
if your kids wash their hands underneath the sink without,
soap are they actually getting their hands? CLEAN i would
(35:27):
submit That angela for years has told her kids and
make sure you put soap on your hands. Too and
also when you get in the, shower how many times
do your young kids they get in, there they just rinse.
Themselves they don't actually get shampoo or.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Soap and this is maybe an. Overshare this is maybe an.
Overshare i'm a believer that the water does most of the.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Work. Folks now there's, one there's a.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
There when you're With angela, here do you think that
when you go to the. Bathroom, No i'm just, saying, like,
generally WHEN i wash my, hands unless it's like, bathroom
you gotta use. Soap we're not you, know we're not savages, Here,
okay but most of the time the water does the
trick unless you're.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Worried, about you, know going to going to the.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Restaurants i'm just speaking of the. TIME i don't think
the water does. ANYTHING i think this is a sham
that we've all been sold that somehow watering an apple
makes you safer to eat the apple than if you
do nothing at. ALL i JUST i DON'T i don't buy.
IT i Think angel was. Wrong we got a ton
of great, comments by the, way we'll hit some of
these when we come back as well The komy. Stuff
(36:28):
and we Got Nicole parker from THE fbi who was
there When comy was her.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Boss so this will be. Interesting this is gonna be
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Fun we'll also see whether she buys My Sherlock holmes
analysis of multiple photos gonna Get comy.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Caught that's. Next does that make Me watson
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me give you a little bit of a road map.
Congressman Jim Jordan going to join us at twelve thirty
he has uncovered emails suggesting yet another conspiracy was correct,
(01:10):
which is the COVID shot was hidden from voters in
twenty twenty. Now we know that ultimately the COVID shot
became to a large extent worthless, but it would have
likely swung the election. If there had been an opportunity
for people to know in November, hey, we think we
(01:30):
have a COVID shot vaccine. Trump would have surged in
the polls. I really do believe this, and that, among
many other aspects, might well have decided the election given
how close things were in twenty twenty in Wisconsin, Georgia,
and Arizona. So we're going to talk about that story
with Jim Jordan. We're also going to be joined by
our friend Nicole Parker, former FBI agent. Big news coming
(01:55):
out from Cash Pattel about the choices that he is
going to make regarding the FBI jag Or Hoover headquarters building,
but also the story that I wanted to start with
that happened yesterday in the afternoon. James Comey, former head
of the FBI from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen, who
(02:16):
effectively out of nowhere, helped to create the idea of
Russia collusion as it pertained to Trump's election victory. In
twenty sixteen, posted a Instagram message photo of seashells arranged
so that the numbers eight six four seven were shown.
(02:38):
He claimed that he had just been walking on the
beach and seen it. Interestingly, buck and this is me
going full Sherlock Holmes. I was on with Jesse Waters
last night, and my prep for that was something I
didn't expect that I would ever end up doing, which
was going through James Comey's past Instagram post, and prior
to that, he had found a seashell also on the
(02:59):
beach that raculously was painted to endorse Kamala Harris, and
he had shared that. So I am not the greatest
investigator who has ever lived. But if you are posting
multiple seashell stories to give political opinions, it would suggest
to me that the former head of the FBI did
this eight six four seven, or some of his friend's
(03:21):
family whoever he was hanging out with. He had to
know what this meant. Otherwise it's just a super weird
thing to post. And he now claims that he had
no idea about it at all. What was your reaction, Buck,
And for those of you who don't know and may
not have seen this story, eight six is basically, take
somebody out. Donald Trump is obviously the forty seventh president
(03:43):
of the United States. In pretty much any parlance that
would be associated I would imagine with any sort of
investigative branch, this would be a call to arms, a
suggestion that Trump, who has already survived to assassinate attempts,
should be killed by someone. What was your reaction when
(04:03):
you saw it? Were you as stunned as I was?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Buck?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I think that James Comy was the single worst bureaucrat
of the twenty first century until Fauci came along. And
maybe he's a little jealous of all the attention for
Fauci's awfulness and decided that he wanted to be in
the headlines again. I would say this is so shockingly stupid,
But if you've actually spent any time thinking about, learning
about reading about James Comy, he is truly, I think,
(04:29):
a pathological narcissist and has created this narrative in his
head where he is the greatest and most ethical human
being alive in America, maybe in the world, and does
not believe that anybody else can. I mean, that's why
I used to call him Sancto Comy. I mean, he's
the most sanctimonious person, may even be more sanctimonious than Fauci.
(04:53):
And he put the country through a horrible ordeal, largely
orchestrated himself. I mean, just to take a step back
here for a few mon moments, as we are looking
at this issue, James Comey bragged about sending FBI agents
to go ambush the incoming National Security Advisor with a
perjury trap over nothing, because he said that he thought
(05:17):
it was a violation of the Logan Act, a law
that has never been success never been used in two
hundred plus years to prosecute anybody ever. So he thinks
he is too clever and then some and he's not
nearly clever enough because Donald Trump is president now and
he destroyed his entire whatever belief he had that he'd
(05:38):
go down in the history books of some kind of hero. No,
he is a shmo of the first order. He is
the absolute worst, and he got right alongside Fauci. And
you also, just for those who want to take a
little trip down memory lane with me on this clay,
you know, that he was the US attorney who pushed
very hard to prosecute Martha Stewart and make sure that
(06:01):
she served jail time just because he was showboating. He's
the ultimate prosecutorial show boat, which is a menace, a
menace in a free society. Somebody who thinks I'm going
to ruin someone else's life and take away their freedom
because of how it will make me look in the newspapers.
That is the last person that you want to be
(06:21):
making tough calls about prosecution and wielding the power of
the state. Fauchi, I mean, Fauci Komy is a really
malignant force in America. He knew exactly what he was doing,
but I guess he didn't think past the implications of
Your buddies aren't calling the shots at the FBI anymore, Kmy.
(06:42):
Now it's Cash Battel and Dan Bongino, and they don't
think you're a little subtle threat to the President of
the United States is clever. They think it's a crime
and he's going to have to have some explaining.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
To do here.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's super weird too, a guy sixty four years old.
So the idea that you would decide I remember all
the Instagram photos he used to post of himself, like
staring at lakes during the Russia collusion thing. The guy's
is in love with himself. He's a weirdo, Clay, a weirdo. Sorry,
I was gonna say. I mean, I understand when you're
a nineteen or twenty year old influencer that you're posting
(07:16):
photos all the time from the beach. This whole thing
is very strange to me. I thought when this story popped,
I was like, there's no way this guy could be
this much.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Of a moron. Part of me is thinking, is he
begging to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Because it's so awfully dumb for someone who has been
in charge of the FBI to be suggesting in any
way that the President of the United States should be killed,
and to do it with seashells on the beach.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
It's just a very It's like a beta male threat
against the president. I mean, this is like the low
te terrorist extraordinaire.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's insane, But Clay, it's also a reminder that these people,
people who who threw their everything they had into destroying Trump,
they're they're actually not very bright, and they're weirdos, and
they had a lot of power in government before Trump
came along. Some of the people that he has exposed
just by existing. He's on us, Trump, I meaning Trump,
(08:17):
Trump has on us a huge favor because all these
wackados at the top of the government bureaucracy showed us
who they are.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, it's a good point. It has led to a
great collection of memes of people posting their own seashell
messages on the beach. But I just like, if you're
a grown man and you are posting pictures of seashells,
I'm just like, what is going on in your world?
What is going on in your mind? And to have
(08:44):
done it twice and then to claim that you don't
know who did it, which is now his claim. They
posted a seashell photo to endorse Kamala Harris, and then
there's a seashell photo of a call to kill Trump
and you claim that you just took a photo and
posted it. I mean, it's not an insubstantial amount of
(09:06):
time that it would have taken to make a ceashell message.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And I just I don't I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And I hope that he is already being questioned about this,
but part of me thinks that it does he want
to be arrested, like this is just such a dumb
thing to do.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
No, he's so used to playing these little sanctimonious games
in public that I think play he thought with with
the usual Komi's sophistream and do you remember when I
mean he really he presents himself like a blameless friar
from you know, the medieval period or something. He's like, Oh,
I was just doing a Russia collusion. I just pursuing
(09:45):
the Bureau's prerogatives. I just you know, he is such
a phony boloney and now he's doing this. Oh, I
didn't think about what the implications of this would be.
You're the FBI director.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's my thing.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
It's so weird, like what there's what lee Way should
you get for Iden? First of all, did he give
anyone else ever in his career the Oh I didn't
think that was actually a crime when I did it, Leeway,
I don't think so. And secondly, you would know this.
You should know this better than anybody that that's not
something that you should play games with. And even beyond
the there's the legality of this, and he's gonna fight it,
(10:19):
and he's gonna say that it's like, you know, this
is a free speech and it doesn't actually what those
are just numbers, just like the uh, what is the
marijuana plant? Smiley face? One three on the guys. It's
just a coincidence, Clay, It's a one in ten. It's
a one in ten trillion coincidence that that guy Abrego
Garcia happened to have those things on his knuckles, which
(10:40):
anybody would look at and go, I think I know
what you're doing here, But but they're a coincidence. Theorists
and and Komy is so used to getting away with
insulting our intelligence and that's what he's doing once again.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And I don't know what what should the concerence? So
let's pretend you are in charge of investigating this, which
is unfortunately should be totally unnecessary, right, I mean, the
fact that we have to spend time on something this dumb.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
He's going to I can tell you what he's gonna do.
He's not going to get criminally, they're not going to
be able to criminally nail him on this. And don't
get mad at me if I'm wrong, I'll come on
and apologize. I'm just telling you what's going to happen. Okay,
if I'm wrong, I'll say I was wrong. They are
charging him and they're taking seriously.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Should they? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But should they? And will they? Is not the same question, right,
I think, Clay, what he's going to do here is
he's going to say I observed something, and I shared
what I observed.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And if anything, you want to know how sanctimonious Comy is?
You ready for this? Everybody?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
If this was any kind of threat against Trump, Comy
will claim by sharing it, I exposed the threat. That's
who James Comy is. Here's a good question for you. Well,
I'm wait, is there any reason why he wouldn't be
able to do that? Clay, think of this one through
for a second. Given that he says he didn't even
know what the numbers meant. You don't think he'd pull
that off?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, I wonder, usually you don't take only one photo
on your phone. I would think that his phone will
get seized. And I would wonder whether there is evidence
of who did this, meaning him or someone else? A
video like think about it? And I went to my
fourth grade talent competition, not mine, my fourth grader's talent
(12:14):
show today, and I took a bunch of different pictures
and videos, usually on social media. And I'm going to
sound like a twenty three year old Instagram influencer right now.
You take multiple photos and choose the one that you
think best reflects what the message is that you want
to get out there that you post on Instagram. So
my thought on this, and again I'm not s Sherlock Holmes,
(12:36):
but I do have a little bit of experience, is
that his phone is likely to have multiple versions of
this photo and or potentially a video or evidence of
who did this. And I think his phone's probably going
to get seized. And so I think he did this right,
Like I don't think it's very likely that in some
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way that he had no knowledge of some person he did.
I didn't know it all wrote down eighty six forty
seven in Shells and James Comy, who happens to hate Trump,
is walking down the beach and takes a photo.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
The one, the one that I think is the is
the toughest for the Komy defense is what you told
me that he has other shell a seashell syle message,
a Kamala message. And this is how comy. This is
like finger painting by James Kmy. I mean, we're gonna
we'll see it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Just again, go in full Sherlock Holmes, here buck, how
many seashell photos have you posted with political messages ever
in your life on Instagram?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know the answer? Zero?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, so me, you and I combined have never posted
a political message with seashells.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I bet, But that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Doesn't go on his defense. His defense is going to
be that he found it. So unless he has photos
of him making it, he's gonna say I stumbled upon
this on the beach and I was.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like, I understand that's going to be his defense. I
just don't think that he only took one photo. I
think there's gonna be evidence on his phone and that
he may try to delete. I'm telling you think about it.
Come on, how often don't come about it? Think about it?
How often when you post something on Instagram? I only
want twenty five year olds in younger here to respect.
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Nobody only takes one.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
So if he has multiple photos, just say he took
multiple photos. Don't unless you have a photo of him
placing the stones, which would be truly insane.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, I'm saying I think there will be photos. I
think it was like his kid, or it was somebody
in his group and they were joking around and they
took a photo. I think they took a this is
my prediction. They took a series of photos joking around.
Then he said, Hey, should I post this? Oh it's
gonna get Maga so worked up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Hahaha.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They're drinking wine like a couple of losers on the beach.
I got this whole story in my head, and I
think that's the story. I think I think he may
have created a big mess for himself here, as big
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Speaker 4 (16:19):
All right, one person who does not find Tomy the
least bit funny or clever is Donald Trump, because he
had to suffer through Comy's nonsense in the past, and
here is the president speaking about the eight six, four
to seven posts that Komy put out.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Play it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
He knew exactly what that meant. A child knows what
that meant.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
If you're the FBI director and you don't know what
that meant, that meant assassination.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
And it says it loud and clear.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough
to know what that meant.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
And he did it for a reason.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
And he was hit so hard because people like me,
they like what's happening with our country has become respected
again and all this and he's calling for the assassination
of the president.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Obviously, he apologized and said, look, he's a very what
do you want to see happen? What do you want
to see happening.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I don't want to take a position on it, because
that's going to be up to Pam and all of
the great people.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But I will say this, I think it's a terrible thing.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think Trump handled that perfectly. I think he's right.
Don't take a position on it. Let the system exactly
like if Kmy was still in the system and making
these decisions. Let the people in charge look at what happened,
what the statutes are on what's happened with other people
in similar situations.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's a perfect answer, honestly, because he's the president, he
shouldn't be dictating that decision, certainly not publicly, and let
him look at it see how it's to your point,
how that precedent has been handled. I find it hard
to believe that any former FBI director in the history
of the United States has ever posted anything or said
anything that could publicly encourage the assassination of the president
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Speaker 2 (18:54):
We head up to Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Did you be joined by our good buddy, Congressman Jim
Jordan of Ohio. Lots to get into with him on
a variety of different subjects, but let's start off right
off the top of here. A big beautiful bill making
its way through the House and the Senate some uh,
some uh, maybe some challenges.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Along the way.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
What should the audience out there know about where this
is and where it's headed.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, I mean I think in the end, good beautif
you guys, I think in the end we get there
because sort of one I've always thought this one sort
of overriding fact is we're the party that's as we
don't raise taxes, and if we don't get this pass,
taxes go up on the families we get there representing
and just one of the hallmark, you know, basic fundamental
principles of the Republican Party. As we think moms and
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dad should keep more of their money to spend on
their goals, their dreams, their kids, they're they're objectives in
their communities. We think businesses to keep more of their
money to plow back into their business to expand and
grow and help our economy, which ultimately leads to more
revenue coming into the treasury. So we're for lower taxes.
So I think in the end we get there. We
had a little setback here a few minutes ago in
the Budget Committee, but we'll keep working and I think
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we get this still done.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
What's the most beautiful thing in the big beautiful bill
or the most beautiful thing if you're just giving us
some top lines, Congressman, so we know what's in there,
because let's be honest, very few people out there are
going to read the entirety of the bill. But if
it gets through, what should we be excited about?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Two things? One that it just what I talked about.
There'll be tax cuts for American families and business, R
and D expansion, all the things that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Helped me not to interrupt you.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
New tax cuts, not just like making old tax cuts
that Trump had permanent.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Both of those, both of us will happen. I think
that is I think that is huge. Second, work requirements.
You know, if you're able body to know what one
of the one of the things. You guys all know this.
Y'all had jobs. I mean I remember my brother and
I we mowed country lawns. You know, you learn to work,
You learned the satisfaction of a job well done, You
learn to interact with customers, are going to need to
keep the schedule. It's all important things. And if you
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don't have people work who are able bodying, they just
live off the taxpayer. That is not good for taxpayers.
It's not good for our economy. Most importantly, it's not
good for the people who get robbed of learning what
we all learned with those first jobs. So that the
work requirement elements that we have in there for people
receiving public assistance. And then finally, this came directly from
our committee. The resources we have sent to the administration
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to make sure our border stay secure. It's already secure
what President Trump and the team have done Stephen Miller,
Tom Holme, and Christy No. But what they've done is amazing.
But we want to make sure they have the resources
that came from our committee. So I think those are
sort of the three big things that I think are
just key principles and things we talked about in the
campaign that are in this bill.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You had a big revelation about the potential it appears
attempt to keep news about the COVID shot and the
progress that was being made from being released right before
the election, because theoretically it would have been beneficial to Trump.
And I've always found it, I know many people out
there did. Is well, super suspicious that within I don't know,
(22:03):
a week or ten days after the election, we suddenly
found out that there have been very good progress being
made on the COVID shot.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Now, I'm not getting into the efficacy of the COVID
shot going forward, but in October of twenty twenty, if
there had been an expectation of a COVID vaccine, I
think Trump would have won.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't think it would have been close. What happened?
What have you uncovered?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, no, Clay, I agree with you whatever think about
the vaccine. I personally didn't get it, but it's still
you know, you got to go back to the text then,
and it wasn't a week after it was a day
after the election. Was November third, November Crazy Joe Biden's
declared winner. November eighth, they go shazam, the results are great.
It's like, well you believe that when you knew? Yeah,
So this guy and this guy tells He goes to
(22:45):
a subsequent pharmaceutical company, Glasgow Smith's Cline, and he tells
them after this past presidential election, when President Trump wins,
he says, uh, you know, I'd like to get transferred
to Canada. And because it's no coincidence on the timing
of the results back in twenty twenty, well, you don't
ask leave the country if you didn't do something wrong.
So we sent a letter to this doctor. We want
to we want to, you know, we want to depose him.
(23:06):
And then we sent a letter to Pfiser where he
worked when they were developing this vaccine and doing the
test that he said that they slowed down their results
getting to the public. And again remember the context. You
couple that with all the mail in ballots, with the
fifty one former Intel officials who worked with the Biden
campaign to put up that stupid letter that was false
(23:28):
saying the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian information operation. All
that Trump wins if they don't do all that stuff.
We understand that so and those kind of things just
aren't supposed to happen. So we're gonna we're gonna dig
into this and find out what really took place.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Cox and Jordan, I know you only have a minute
before you got a run.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I just wanted to get your reaction to what is
kind of an unexpected but still a major news story
of the day, which is you've dealt with Comy in
the past. You're familiar with this fellow. Ye, what the
heck is he thinking sharing this eighty six forty seven
seashells thing? Like, does it surprise you at all?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Or do you think that this guy have you always
known he was such a weirdo.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I mean, I guess we're all surprised. I mean, like,
what are you doing this for? And then I was
surprised that he said, well, I think he said that
it was just on the beach and I took a
picture of it. Did come on? He probably arranged this thing.
I mean, you got to be kidding me. So, but
then you think about it, Comy, I probably deposed I
said this earlier to someone today. I probably said in
more deposition. More transcribed interviews than just about any member
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of Congress over the last fifteen years. And certain people
when they're in a deposition, their attitude just they're they're arrogance.
You just see it. You just like Komy was almost like,
how dare some country hillbilly from western Ohio asked me
Jim Comy questions And it's like he was like Clapper
and Brennan frankly when certain people. So I just think
(24:56):
he wants attention. It was stupid, It was wrong, and
God bless Christine for in secret service, for investigating the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
One last question here is I know you're busy, and
we appreciate you coming on today all of the revelations
that are coming out about Joe Biden, and suddenly Democrats
are saying, how could we have possibly known? A Democrat
media like Jake Tapper is saying, boy, were we ever
snookered here? We had no idea this was going on?
Why would it not make sense? And you can tell
me if I'm crazy on this. Given the fact that
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Democrats had primetime hearings on jan six, and that may
have been beneficial and impactful for them in the midterms
because enough people paid attention and were willing to buy
the story that they were telling. Why would it not
be beneficial to bring all these Biden aids in, put
them under oath, question them about what they actually saw,
and hold Democrats responsible for the question that I think
(25:46):
you probably still have too. Who the heck's been running
the country for the past few years, given that Biden
didn't have the mental or physical capability.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, well we know who was running it.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
That.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
We know who was running it in foreign policy was
the whole darned team that Clinton and Obama had, Jake Sullivan,
Wendy Sherman, Bilbern Tony Blanket. But we never really kind
of knew who was running domestic politic he was really
making the call over there. But yeah, you're right, Jake
Tapper lied to us for four years and now he
writes a book and is making money telling us the truth.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I mean, you can't make this amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
So so I do think that makes sense. But I
think step one in this process is getting the her tapes.
And this is why we were after him for you know,
we were after him for the last year and a half. Whenever,
whenever Robert Hurt testified and conveyed to us just you know,
he wasn't going to prosecute, but just how bad that
interview was he told us it. But we'd like to
we'd actually like to have the audio tapes, which we
know exist and the Justice Department refused to refuse to
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give to us. We think we're going to get those
public heres soon. I think that's step one, and you
you we'll see how they play out. But if it's
anything like the transcript, I think it's it's going to
be pretty good or pretty interesting, I should say, And
then we can go to some of these people after that.
But I think that's that's sort of step one and
any investigation that we do.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Good stoppers.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And Ordan appreciate you, sir, you bet, thanks, Thanks all
you guys do take care.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well there we have it.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, no, I mean I appreciate him making the time
because I think as always super impactful to hear from him.
And uh, you know, there's gonna be a lot of
talk about what exactly is taking place on the on
that bill, but I feel pretty good and I'm sure
you'll use.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You to break news break news in the Wall Street Journal.
Big Beautiful Bill stalled after being blocked by conservative House Republicans.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
But I feel a little bit like this with this,
like I do about the what do they always get
shut down? Or the debt debt, government shutdowns, debt ceilings.
I would be stunned beyond belief if this doesn't end
up getting passed at some point in the near future.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Are you suggesting play that in the Congress sometimes there
is pointless grandstanding by members who have no intention of
changing anything but want a little attention.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I would maybe possibly be suggesting that that is almost
exactly what's going to happen here, and eventually it's going
to pass, So I would be I would be stunned
if that isn't the ultimate reaction before all is said
and done.
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Speaker 4 (30:38):
We've got a lot of emails, a lot of talkbacks,
a lot of calls. Love chatting with all of you
all across this great country of ours. Uh, let's jump
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Nice little shout out to a wonderful chalk sponsor. But
one thing about Comy that you have to be aware of.
He is definitely not little. He is He is Jesse
Kelly tall. In fact, I don't know if Comy or
Jesse Kelly is taller. They both frequently hit their heads
on rooftops walking around in people's homes, so I don't
know who is bigger, but they are very like six'
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nine ish six ten maybe For, comy very, large AND
i bet he's terrible still at. BASKETBALL i can't stop
laughing about how weird it is to take photos of
seashells if you're a grown man with a functional, penis
and it's not like your grandkid who is you know
out or your kids that are, like oh, look we're
making sand castles or. Seashells or whatever else and to
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have done it multiple. Times i'm telling you this guy
has Got if they seize his, phone which they, SHOULD
i think it will provide direct evidence that he did.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It, now then it.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Turns into buck, WELL i didn't know what eighty six forty,
Seven so you're just randomly make a free make a
free speech.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Case.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
NO I i have already given him his, defense which
is THAT i shared this as a warning BECAUSE i
saw somebody else did.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
This the problem is.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
The post of what he said is different than like
when he initially posted. It he was, like, haha look at,
this and then he took it down and put up
a new, post which was, basically, OH i you, know
had no idea of the significance of those up.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Together, well he's gonna he's claiming cooked. Himself that's.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
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Speaker 3 (32:41):
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Speaker 6 (32:44):
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Speaker 2 (32:49):
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Speaker 3 (32:51):
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Speaker 1 (32:53):
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about the, dog not the. Buffalo seems like would take
a lot, more a lot more f to demand.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
SOMEBODY i think. Somebody i'm not making this up BECAUSE
i see these. Headlines animal headlines always stick out of
my you, know because this is why ever clicks on.
THEM i think someone just got gored in Maybe yellowstone
or one of The national, parks just, recently getting too
close to a. Buffalo AND i just what part of
this is a massive mound of muscle with horns and
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Wild do people not? UNDERSTAND i don't.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Telling you these people Like Jim, comey who Are instagram
photo takers all the. Time look at the number of
people who fall to their death taking An instagram. PHOTO i,
mean this is a legit, epidemic you know.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
WHAT i know this has happened before people in The
National parks have gotten close To usually they're smart enough
not to.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Do it with, bears because that's truly. It, like you,
know everyone knows bears.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Are scary and, Fast but buffalo when you've seen, them
you know they're kind of just hanging. Out they don't
look they are much faster than, you and they are
aggressive if they feel, threatened and they're, huge you, know
they weigh, LIKE i don't, know twelve hundred pounds or,
something or fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Pounds, yeah it's.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
NUTS i want to hear if people buy My Jim
comey on The Beach Analysis Sherlock holme. Style he took multiple.
Photos he's gonna get caught because they're gonna seize his
phone and maybe he just has to issue a public.
APOLOGY i don't know if they're going to officially arrest,
him BUT i just don't buy that he took one
photo of the seashells and happened to post.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
It angela From Chandler arizona On this IS. Cc she
Says clay AND i kind of back you up on,
this SO i take the heat on this. Too rinsing
fruit is not just for, pesticides PLAY, Cc clay And.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Bob the ten second rule for fruit under the water
is not for. Pesticide it's for all of the dirty
people's hands and snotty. Noses they were touching the fruit
while they were choosing the apples and trying to eliminate
a little bit of a, viral you know movement among
cremwe it's to remove you, know people's, fill not to stop.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Pesticize and, oy, okay let me fire back At. Angela
angela sounds Like i'm gonna just be a stereotype. Here
she may have been a mom at some point in,
time because that sounds like a mom message for. Us
if your kids wash their hands underneath the sink without,
soap are they actually getting their hands? CLEAN i would
(35:27):
submit That angela for years has told her kids and
make sure you put soap on your hands. Too and
also when you get in the, shower how many times
do your young kids they get in, there they just rinse.
Themselves they don't actually get shampoo or.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Soap and this is maybe an. Overshare this is maybe an.
Overshare i'm a believer that the water does most of the.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Work. Folks now there's, one there's a.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
There when you're With angela, here do you think that
when you go to the. Bathroom, No i'm just, saying, like,
generally WHEN i wash my, hands unless it's like, bathroom
you gotta use. Soap we're not you, know we're not savages, Here,
okay but most of the time the water does the
trick unless you're.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Worried, about you, know going to going to the.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Restaurants i'm just speaking of the. TIME i don't think
the water does. ANYTHING i think this is a sham
that we've all been sold that somehow watering an apple
makes you safer to eat the apple than if you
do nothing at. ALL i JUST i DON'T i don't buy.
IT i Think angel was. Wrong we got a ton
of great, comments by the, way we'll hit some of
these when we come back as well The komy. Stuff
(36:28):
and we Got Nicole parker from THE fbi who was
there When comy was her.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Boss so this will be. Interesting this is gonna be
a lot of.
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Fun we'll also see whether she buys My Sherlock holmes
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