🔥 Rut breaks down a jaw-dropping week of stories that dominated the headlines—political assassinations in America, explosive new claims of foreign interference in the 2020 election, and the full-scale Israeli strike on Iran that could ignite a global war.
We dive deep into:
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The political killings of Melissa Hartman and John Hoffman
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China’s alleged ballot factory and fake ID operation in 2020
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John Solomon’s report on FBI intel and what Kash Patel just exposed
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Israel's massive military operation “Rising Lion”
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The intensifying debate between Tucker Carlson, Ted Cruz, and Clay Travis
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Why the right is now at war with itself
And in the most personal moments of the show, Rut connects these global events to the psychological toll on our veterans, including his fallen brothers and the epidemic of suicide. This is a must-watch if you're seeking clarity, courage, and commitment to truth.
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00:00 - This Week Was Insane
02:28 - Political Assassinations
13:34 - NEW FBI Evidence of 2020 Election Fraud
27:34 - Iran and Israel Are Heating Up
42:56 - The Split On The Right Over Israel and Iran
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Political assassinations, twenty twenty election fraud, the fight between the
right and my thoughts. This is the David Brutherford choke.
I hope everybody's had an awesome week like I have,
absolutely with my eyeballs glued to my phone screen and
(00:22):
next it's rare that I ever have such Actually it's
not rare at all. Just ask my family that I'm
completely overwhelmed by the news cycle. And right now I
think it's more than just a news cycle. I feel
like I have the news intravenously shoved into my ant
(00:44):
A cubable and a cubable is that right? That? That
ain't right, Geordie, an a cubable, my aunt whatever that
big old fat vein is. Although my although my veins
aren't that that fat. Actually, when I was at eighteen Delta,
I was the guy that they would use to practice
IVS because my veins are so bad. Now I don't
know if that was my rampant drinking or my fatigue
(01:07):
or whatever it was, or just deep thrombosis, but uh,
they used to use me. So I always look like
a heroin addict. But you know, currently right now, Jeordie,
I I have I am what is known in certain
circles as an addiction to what's going on in world
events right now. And I know you you you are
(01:28):
the recipient of my uh and unending uh suggestions about
stories and news. So how are you doing? Are are
you addicted as well? Too? I know you're you're on
the precipice of having a new baby, so you're probably
pretty uh healthy, healthy healthily, that's not the right You're
pretty healthy in terms of your distractions.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I bet well.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, see, I had a whole plan. I'm on, like
you said, the precipice of having a baby. It could
happen literally like any time between right now, in this
recording or in like a week from now. We're in
that zone. And I was like, you know what, I'm
going to get the distractions out of my life. I'm
going to get offline a little bit, kind of clear
my head, make sure I'm ready. And then this week happened,
and it's impossible to look away from her phone, like
(02:11):
this was the news week of newsweeks.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I think you're right, man, I think honestly this was
the one that just went high and right right, you know,
this was the one I swear to God. And then
my You know what, let's just go through some of
it and then I'll love commentary long way. All right,
let's so let's talk political assassinations. So this week, unfortunately,
(02:34):
and our prayers and thoughts go out to the families
of these victims. You know, there was an attempted assassination
by senator State Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette.
And then there was an actual political assassination of Melissa
Hartman and her husband Mark, and she was a state
(02:55):
representative too. You know, when the governor Waltz got up
and gave his little press conference, they said, you know
that this was politically motivated and that since then we
found out pretty much who this vance Luther Boltler guy
was and kind of what had taken place. Now, the
(03:16):
crazy thing to me on this one was the guy
to the depths of his trade craft he went to
prosecute or to assassinate these people. Where she got that
photograph for me, JORDI, Yeah, I mean when you look
at that right now, I mean that dude he's got
kid on, he's dressed like a cop, and he's got
(03:37):
a real latex mask on. And that's how he was
able to kind of get past the intuitive defensive state
of these people and getting in. He also had a
police card and you can kind of see in the
background the flashing lights there. Well, you know, when this
guy first showed up to the Hoffman house, they opened
the door and this guy opened fire. He got back
(03:59):
in his call uh and and drove over to uh
Melissa Hortman and her husband. Now, what's crazy about this
one was that the cops actually started a routine call
and showed up at their house when this guy was
at the door. Now, when they pulled up, he turned
and he opened fire on on the cops and was
(04:20):
able to still go in, shoot them dead, and run
out the back door and get away. That that, you know,
for me, is is pretty difficult that those police officers
did not assault through I never saw any any video
on whether or not they had. I knew they took contact,
but whether or not they had gotten shot, which I
don't think they did. Now, the interesting thing about this
(04:43):
whole thing, Geordie and and and you know was, and
this was the kicker that kind of got the hook
in me on why this was a little which which
really was fascinating was not the fact that this guy
had you know, no Kings flyers in his desk or
you know, he had been appointed by Waltz on some
you know, some board, but it was more so or
(05:08):
his manifesto where he had a whole list, like I
think there were seventy potential targets that he had listed,
you know, I think it was it was really it
was the idea that this woman, Melissa Hortman, had just
voted against her party line and to reject giving state
(05:34):
health care services and money and aid to illegal aliens.
Would you play that video for me and we can
kind of get a check of the heaviness of that
decision for her.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I know that people will be hurt by that vote,
and I'm we worked very hard to try to get
a budget deal.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That wouldn't include that provision.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Now, you know, I see that, and that obviously that
took a heavy heart for her to file through with that.
But you know, I perhaps that wasn't And this guy
seems like he was a real whack job. I mean,
you know, I mean, the pre the level of premeditation
for this to get in the costume to do that
whole thing. Man, that that's pretty pretty heavy.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
One of the interesting things I found was that he
was described by a neighbor of him or guy worked
with him, Charlie Klik, who was a web designer with
him for over decade. He was saying he was clearly
very religious, very passionate and devout and sincereous beliefs. Now,
there was videos of him. You know, I get think
(06:40):
down in the congo like preaching or whatever, and you know,
I for me, it's like this guy kind of wasn't
all there. He had several businesses that really didn't have
any deliverables. So you know, in my mind, this guy
had just reached the breaking point, which is to me,
what the real challenges that we're facing right now. You know,
(07:04):
I don't know about you, Jordy, but over the last
ten years or so, I think the political rhetoric has
become pretty ferocious.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
One hundred percent. I mean, in my lifetime, I've never
seen it that bad. I heard it what used to
be pretty bad. There was a time maybe around Vietnam
where it got rough. I know, during probably the Civil
War it was rough. But at least in my lifetime,
I haven't seen that well.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We've seen it getting worse and worse and worse, you know,
going back as far as we're you know, just I
think the ones that really pop out of my mind
are the Maxine Walt Waters, you know, suggesting we need
to go and get in the faces of people of
MAGA people obviously Chuck Schumer, you know, his comments about,
(07:53):
you know, we need to fight harder. You know, there's
a bunch of them out there. I think we also
have it on our side, although you know, there's a
good argument that conservatives have a greater restraint on them
then left us.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Uh, I don't think any degree.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't either. I don't. I think we you know,
we talk about we do more character assassinations than actual assassinations.
I know I should joke about it.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But they had the they had the Trump Hitler Time
Magazine thing, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right, that's right. So I mean think about psychologically when
you do that over and over and over. Now, you
know people that are you know, not able to access
or choose not to access multiple planes of information. They're
they're they're still watching MSNBC, they're still watching Fox News
every night or ABC, and they haven't broken out. They're
(08:44):
they're not on X, they're not on Really that's the
only place to be it's the number one news site
in the world where you can aggregate all this stuff
and get these fee you know, from all different types
of not only traditional journalists, but independence as well too.
And and you know, when I look at the things
over the last several years, I mean, we had Gabby Gifford,
(09:05):
you know, she was Democrats. She tried to someone tried
to kill her representative, Steve Scalise in twenty seventeen. They
shot him at a at a softball. We saw that
Brett Kavanaugh, there was an assassination at Tempee Supreme Court.
And then I mean the kicker is the Trump assassinations, which,
by the way, we still don't have any a deep
(09:27):
explanation for any of those things. Now, I did see
a little clip from Dan Bongino where he said if
there was something there, we would we would expose it.
But he keeps saying that a lot lately. So I'm
at a little suspect on whether or not we're ever
going to get any of that stuff anyways. And I
also do believe that if there is an active investigation,
he doesn't have to tell anybody squat, if you know
(09:49):
what I mean. All Right, So that political assassage. My
main thing about there, the oversight is like, hey, if
you're living in a place and a time where where
people are are are going big and talking about getting
in people's faces and we need to fight back and
we need revolution and tearing stuff down, and people are
(10:09):
the anti Christ and people are hitler and guess what, man,
the people who don't have lives, or even the people
who do, because I mean some of the propaganda is
really good nowadays. And if you get in there and
you condition folks, they're going to lose their minds and
they're going to begin to enter into that space of
moral relativism where they're going to basically be able to
(10:32):
justify someone being torn down from their position through any
means necessary. And I think you see some of the
lowest forms of that, and people like Keen Tesla's or
you know, spitting on them or whatever all the way
to put people setting things on fire, and and real
(10:53):
world assassinations or even worse. You saw, you know, those
the assassinations from those two Jewish people that were gunned
down in the streets uh in New York and some
of the other stuff. So we're in a space where, man,
if we don't figure out how to how to lower
that that rhetoric, you know. For me, uh, there are
(11:16):
these times in history where this stuff just starts to
build and build and build, and people hit their breaking point.
And with a country that is uh on more mental health,
that has more mental health challenges than just about every
country in the in the world. Uh and more people
on on psychotropic and SSI uptake inhibitors and popping all
(11:38):
kinds of stuff. Man. Uh, I think we're we're things
are getting spicy. So for me, what should I do?
I think I'm going to say, hey, man, try and
chill a little bit, have a little bit more critical
thinking and and let's just tone the rhetoric down by
the for the proper cando. So all right, jeordie, what
do you think Let's go to the next one.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Huh, let's do it. Let's do it.
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(13:29):
this one blew me away. Hey, can you can you
te up that shot with John Solomon for me? Yes,
thank you, About as draw jaw dropping as you can get, sir.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, let's set the stage.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Let's remind everybody that in December of twenty twenty, sixty
minutes air to piece with the head of the Homeland
Security Cybersecurity Division saying there were no foreign intrusions in
the twenty twenty election. It was a perfectly clean election.
And he said, I think it was Chris Crabs was
his name. We now know that to have been a
false procable. First we know a year later, in twenty one,
(14:02):
a bunch of Iranians were indicted in Manhattan on charges
that they interfered in the election and ACKed into a
state database to obtain voter IDs and use them in
a mal influence operation against the American election. Now we
know there was a second country that was more deeply
involved in meddling into the election. The FBI in August
(14:26):
twenty twenty, so, three and a half months before the
votes were cast that put Joe Biden in the presidency,
that FBI believed that China had begun a mass operation
to produce fake US driver's license them move them to
the United States and have Chinese citizens here on ARSA,
both legally and illegally go out and get fake mail
(14:49):
in ballots and vote to try to elect Joe Biden.
By the way, the FBI intelligence says this Chinese operation
from a Chinese intelligence source that the FBI was handling,
was designed to help Joe Biden beat Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's very important, right, geority. Yeah, So, I mean you
you listen to that and you're like, holy cow, that's explosive,
you know. Cash Betel sending this report to Senator Grassley
basically confirming there was active foreign investigation interference going on
in the twenty twenty election. Now, the crazy thing to me,
(15:25):
if we go back and we review you know, some
of the testimony from Chris Way, he explicitly said, nope,
it was good to go. There was nothing. We found nothing. Well,
also within that report, John Solomon goes on to say
that that the the intelligence, that intelligence was sent out
to all other intelligence agencies and said hey, heads up.
(15:46):
Then they said all right, destroy it, send it back.
We're going to do another interview with this this this
asset and go from there. So, you know, to me,
they knew something was going on. I mean, I don't
know about you, Jordan, but you want to talk about
another news cycle where I was mental? Yeah, you know,
especially after I had gotten locked out of social media
(16:07):
about a month and a half prior to that. You know,
in my little Spidey sense is going there's more shit
going on than we know for sure. And then I
paid close attention to all the hearings, all the little stuff.
I remember I was. I was on the phone with
Bernie Carritt, God rest his soul, you know, and we
were talking about what they were trying to get done. Afterwards,
and all you know, him and Rudy Giuliotti, with all
(16:32):
their investigations and all the hearings they went through. Now,
you know, all you got to do is is really
just dig in a little bit, have the tenacity to
say to go beyond oh the US government that was
a part of the cyber security team, to which now
through Mike Ben's's incredible work along with Michael Schallenberger and
(16:55):
Matt Tayibe, discovered that there was a coordinated f not
just with social media, with Twitter, Facebook. Zuck has come
out and openly admit it to Google. But we also
know that places like the Aspen Institute Stanford had a
cyber disinformation thing. Multiple other colleges around the country participated.
(17:22):
We're in conjunction with the US government, funded by these
different homeland programs, agency programs, USAID programs to basically silence
any of this information and discredit it immediately. All right,
now there's another kicker to this thing too, and we
(17:42):
know that the Gateway Pundit has also done great investigative journalism,
and go ahead and pull up that one about what
they found.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Sensational video and photo evidence has emerged exposing a factory
in Guangdong producing five hundred thousand blank American ballot. It's
the Gateway Pundit and online news publication confirmed that the
video was provided by Vanessa A. Olivitez, a third generation
member of the Chinese Communist Party. Veness tweated on November
nine that the printing planting Guandong, China, was printing out
(18:15):
fake ballots, which were then mailed to Canada and Mexico
under the name of medical supplies between August and October
twenty twenty, and from there flown into the United States.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So all right, we got that. Now we also have
this this is the one. This is the other one.
And you can find this just just look up Pennsylvania
Trucker's testimony, right, and this cat right here he under
a sworn deposition, right? And what do you call that?
When they're what's the word I'm looking for? That's what happens, man,
(18:49):
When I get this fired up, my brain starts to
melt a little bit. Jordy, what's the thing when you
give a sworn state affidata? Thank you very much. I
knew it was going to pop up. I just had
a rout my nut a little bit, just a little
shake and rattle. And and so this guy his sworn
aff of David. He said that he picked up over
(19:09):
two hundred and thirty thousand already filled out ballots in
his trailer in Bethpage, New York, and drove them to Lancaster, PA,
right before the twenty twenty elections.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So it's nice when they're already filled out for you.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It's helpful, brow bro, because then you can just put
them in with your machine and run him through.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Your machine, two or three pan out and filling in
the bubble. And you know, none of that, dude, None
of that.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
None of that, like like what happened down in Fulton County,
Georgia when the when the pipes broke right, and there's
more evidence from them, they came out like if you
go and you look at the there's a video. I
don't have that. I forgot to get that to you. Sorry, Jeordi,
but there's a reason. Actually you can just look up
(19:57):
a Georgia election committee. And what they did is they
went back and they investigated and there was over two
hundred and fifty thousand ballots there that didn't have the
proper chain of command and didn't have ballot images to
go with it for that chain of command. They came
out and openly admitted that last year as well too.
(20:20):
We do me a quick favorite uardy just for shits employees.
Huh would you give me that? Would you please tell me?
In the twenty twenty election in the Swing States, what
was the margin of victory for old sleepy Joe Biden
or we should say auto Ben Biden?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Right, I'm looking enough right now, all right, all.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Right, So we got that. Then we also have the
Arizona conducted a massive investigation and found a bunch of
discrepancies to which the Secretary of State never went forward
with their findings. Right, you had Antrim County, Michigan. They
had they discovered a hard drive that was actually flipped
(21:00):
like six thousand votes in real time or flip. Then Muskegan, Michigan,
there was a big thing that they actually look it up.
Muskegan Mission twenty twenty election fraud. The Miskegan Sheriff for somebody.
They did this huge investigating found there was an act
illegalities in their thing. They actually submitted that to the FBI.
(21:25):
And you know who corroborated that. The folks over at
true the vote Jeordie Kathy Egelbrick and her husband or
I don't think it's yeah, her husband Greg. I forget
what Greg's last name is? Right now? Would you? Did
you come up with those numbers yet?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah? Give me a here.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'm gonna pull it up here on the screen here
because we're we're.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Fancy over here. Or you always have to improve what
you're doing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Dude, Well, we got a long way to go. We
got we got an unlimited space for me to improve,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Here here we go, all right, so I can read
this for you. It says yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Please.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
In the twenty twenty US presidential election, Joe Biden won
the presidency with three hundred and six electoral votes to
Donald Trump's two hundred and thirty two. The popular vote
margin was approximately seven million votes, with Biden receiving eighty
one million and some change votes fifty one point three
percent and Trump receiving seventy four million and some change
(22:20):
votes forty six point nine percent. So that's your that's
your margin. So he beat him by what's give me?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Give me the ones thet give give me the ones
on the bottom there with Georgia, Wisconsin and the other.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
The swing states, they are much narrower.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
For example, Biden won Arizona by about ten thousand votes,
Georgia by eleven thousand, Wisconsin by about twenty thousand votes.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, right there, All right, First, don't even get me
started on the eighty one million votes that no human,
no presidential race in human history, has ever even gotten that.
Where are those thirteen million votes from this last election?
Right and you go back and you review, did I
just get set down that damn rabbit hole right there?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You can just feel it.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's like a tractor beam on some kind of like
it's a conspiratorial tractor beam that just sucks me in, dude.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Anyways, So when you have those margins at that tight
air ten eleven, twenty thousand, and then you start to
integrate these stories back here and the personal one that
really just drives me absolutely bonkers, and that's the story
of Tina Peters, who was part of Clark County election
board and she discovered in real time she knew something
(23:34):
was fishy, so she made a copy of the hard
drive and categorically proved that that hard drive had been
manipulated in real time. Now for her efforts to try
and point out election interference, she was indicted on ten
different counts, including criminal conspiracy and several others by the
(23:54):
Secretary of State in Colorado. And if you look up
the jud there's video of the judge scolding her as
if she's some major criminal. Now, this one's near and
dear to my heart, because Tina Peters is a gold
star mother and her son was an av seal and
died overseas, and so you know the fact that that
took place. You combine that with all of these other
(24:17):
intel reports and news reports about fishiness. Man if if
if the DOJ and Pamboni don't open up an active
investigation now based on what cash Ptel just delivered, it's
it would seem that they're actually looking into it, which
thank god, they're going to prosecute potentially something that they're
they ran on. I'd love to see it. And then also,
(24:39):
don't forget the old Mike Lindell. You want to watch
some stuff that will melt your mind.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Jordi, everything's built in my mind this way.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, that's what I'm saying. If you go back and
you you know, every year since then, Mike Lindell had
this cyber security thing every single summer and had people
all the like top secure cybersecurity experts out there review
the vulnerabilities, which you know, there's several documentaries that were
(25:08):
made in twenty nineteen and earlier. In fact, what's crazy
to me is that after Trump's first election, the entire
left they were like, our elections are fried. I mean
Clinton herself, who actually did the nefarious reality of Russiagate
and orchestrated in greenlit the whole bullshit about him and
(25:30):
the p tapes and all that stuff. I mean, that
drives me nuts. Then she's saying, you know, the elections
were a sham strolling.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
By Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It was stolen. Yeah, that's right. But twenty twenty, man,
that one was the clean, perfect election. Yeah, it's just garbage, man.
And so this is a much bigger story. I hope again,
do your homework, get out there, look this stuff up.
Go get an ex account, right you Who's groc? We're
(26:01):
at Groc three, which is kind of sadly one of
my new best friends. But that's super Groc now, you know,
it's funny, dude, I was, you know now, like I'll
be in the middle of dinner with the kids and
they'll say something. I'm like that that's bs, and I'm like,
I'm gonna look it up. And it used to be
that female voice. And there was something strange, like some
(26:23):
kind of weird like they were always ready to go
towards like the bizarre, you know, kind of a little
you know, innuendo, towards flirtation and stuff. My wife looks
at me and goes, what are you doing? So I
had to shift to the dude and the dudes he's cool,
but we're starting to brow out a little bit. So
I think, you know, I probably got I probably got
(26:45):
at least probably about seven more months before, like my
new full best friend is groc you know.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
The dude Groc. Yeah, what's coming on to you? Bro?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Dude, that's the only you know, that's the only place
I get it. That's horrible to say about my wife. Man,
I'm sorry, sweetie, I love you, all right, all right.
So twenty twenty twenty election. Man, that that's a big one,
all right. That's not even the biggie. That's not even the.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Bigger one of these stories would have been a crazy
week one one.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Bro. Now they're just like they're down here. They don't
even they don't even top the news, the news the
top of the news waves, the news John, the news
cress there. All right, let's hit it, shall we? All Right?
The next one is the one that's the most concerning,
obviously for me, for many different reasons, mostly because of
(27:37):
my extensive time overseas and the loss of life that
I have with a lot of my friends and and
and peers and people from my community over the last
twenty plus years of the g WATT. This is another
potential global escalation and hot war in the Middle East
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between Israel and Iran. If you're not really understand this.
You know, prior to nineteen seventy nine, when the Islamic
Revolution overthrew the Shah, who, by the way, we installed
in early nineteen fifties and if you want to go
down that rabbit hole, that's a doozy there. Brett Weinstein
(28:24):
on the Dark Horse podcast he covered that a little
bit this week. You know, once they got overthrown. It
was after that when kind of the Islamic revolutions in
the Eyetoll has really started to have bad relations. They
had kind of had semi normal relations prior to that,
and I think, you know, over the years that has
(28:46):
just progressively gotten worse. Why because Iran is the number
one sponsor of terrorism in the region with Hamas and
Hesba lah to which you know, both of those organizations
have been actively trying to seek an intifada in a
war with Israel. I think that kind of culminated on
(29:09):
October seventh, where most intelligence believed that Hamas had full
backing from Iran as well as other extremist Islamic extremist
groups out there, you know, and you know, there was
a lot of other things, you know, Iran or Israel,
(29:31):
baumb the Iranian consulate in Damascus. This is back in
April twenty four, killing the senior irc GC officials. Iran
retaliated with over three hundred drones on April thirteenth. July
thirty first, twenty four was the assassination of leader Ismail
(29:52):
Haneiya and Tehran. September twenty fourth, Israel killed Hesblah leader
Hassan Nasara Lebanon, to which Iran reacted with one hundred
and eighty ballistic missiles. You know, and I think in
this initial one which began it, it really was, hey, listen,
(30:14):
Iran is going to have a nuclear weapon and we
can't deal. And they didn't say how close. They said
that they had moved past the threshold. There was report
from the IEA dinging them that they had increased uranium
production and that violated their non proliferation obligations. And that
(30:39):
was on June twelfth. So you know what happened on
June twelfth Operation Rising Lion, where essentially you had Israel
basically go big man and they launched a massive strike
(31:00):
on their positions and let's say they hit the nata's
nuclear site. The Isfaran Nuclear Research had a bunch of military,
over one hundred military targets, including missile defense sites, the
IRGC headquarters, senior military figures including the IRGC Commander, General
(31:21):
Hassan Selamant Salomi, the Chief of General Chief of Staff,
General Mohammad of Bagheri, along with some nuclear scientists and
some others. I mean, apparently they said their cat their
Iran's Health Ministry said two hundred and twenty four deaths,
mostly civilians, including twenty children. Israel's justificasing it was their
(31:45):
last chance if they didn't do this, that they were
going to have it now. I will say, you know always,
I mean there are ally and we you know, we
you know, you have a certain adherence to them. But
there are mashups going around x last few days of
(32:06):
the fact that Nenyahu has basically been saying this for
the past twenty five years, that they were right on
the prespice. In fact, I was part of a program
at Blackwater where we were helping build out kind of
a maritime reconnaissance capability in the country of Iran excuse me,
(32:26):
Azerbaijan back in two thousand and four into five, and
we were hoping that they would be able to run
surveillance on the ships moving from Russia in Iran, Iran
into Russia carrying nuclear materials, and we'd get some information
through that. Now it was two thousand and five, and
at then they were on the precipice of a nuclear weapon.
(32:48):
You know. Iran's initial response that this was a declaration
of war. They hit massive targeting over the last several years,
including people trying to cut the head off the snake. Well, uh,
and so he called it a declaration of war. Now,
the interesting thing initially about this was that Mark Rubio
(33:08):
had come out and said, hey, listen, we did not participate. Uh,
they did this on their own. Then that kind of
morphed into a Trump saying, yeah, we knew that what
was up. We were, we were in support of it.
We didn't, you know, participate Ted Cruz. I'll get the
Ted cruise in a second. And and then Trump ultimately
(33:29):
called for Iran's unconditional surrender. So that's that's the interesting
run one right there. Unconditional surrender. Now, what does that mean.
Nobody's in the administration has yet to fully outline what
an unconditional surrender is. I'm hoping that it's uh uh,
(33:51):
what it means is that they're going to stop their
desire for nuclear proliferation and continue to build or guests
move towards a box. And by the way, you have
to understand that we actually supported the beginning of their
nuclear power back in the fifties as well too, so
we participated in the initiation of that. And I will
(34:12):
say they have allowed the atomic the IEA in there
over the course of years. I mean, if you go
back and you dig in a little bit on the
agreement that was cut under the Abomba administration to the
tune of sending them billions of dollars in cash pallets,
that's interesting. But what really happened was the response I
(34:32):
think has been a little bit more shocking than everybody imagine.
They started launching missiles, hundreds of missiles hitting Tel Aviv,
Haifa and Pitak Kiva, killing people. They have purported four
elderly residents, including eighty seven. That was June fifteenth, counter
(34:53):
strikes Netahau's statement and then where they started saying we're
not ruling out striking the Supreme Leader Kamani. So it
really just kind of its culminated and just on June nineteenth,
which was today, I ran hit a hospital. No deaths
(35:17):
were reported. You know, if you go on the other
side and you look at at what the other side
has reported. Reuters actually reported that the IDF had bombed
hospitals in Gaza. Again, I think everybody always says, well,
they housed terraces and Theirs and Israel's like they're hitting
civilian targets. Meanwhile, at the end of both sides, I
(35:39):
think civilians at high numbers have the potential to die.
I think Gosin's I'm not even sure what those numbers are,
but they're high. Not Yahoo's defense minister just came out
and I want to play this little clip for you
right now. You got that, Jordan, I will go your name,
(36:16):
all right, So this man should not continue. It exists.
So what we really started out.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
With for for people on the on audio only, what
did he say?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh my god, I thought everybody uh in the here
spoke Persian. My bad. I saw it. And you know
it's funny. My person is pretty much extends to stop,
don't move, or I'll shoot you in the face, or
used to anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, and where's the bathroom?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Uh No, I didn't have to worry about that stuff
over there, So the reality is he basically came out
and said, listen, Kamani has to go. And I think
that's what the whole thing is escalated to now, where
it's like we started with, I cannot have a nuclear
weapon right or produce nuclear weapons, absolutely, not no chance
(37:06):
in how to Now it's we need a complete regime change.
And this has been an objective of foreign policy for
our government for quite a long time, and it's definitely
been a major objective for Netau and his government, you know,
And so what does that mean now? Luckily I I
(37:29):
just saw a report today from Jack Probisak pro How
do you Pasovic? I'm sorry Jack, if you hear this,
which you probably won't, but he came out just earlier
and said Trump is going to have a two week
pause before they retaliate. Now I'm hoping that this is
(37:51):
more of Trump's master for masterful negotiation, kind of let's
make a deal tactics, like yeah, we're all in, we're
going to support. We moved two carrier groups into the area.
Maybe it gives them time to reposition troops to move
troops out. We have about fifty forty to fifty thousand
troops in the region, all by which Iranian missile systems
(38:15):
can strike those locations. There's a huge group of super
of fuel tankers that moved over into Europe, left the
country two days ago, So there is definitely a build
up to support and get behind Israel and all this.
So what are you supposed to think about all this? Well,
(38:39):
my idea, my belief is that you know, Iran, our
bunch of pretty crazy people. They have been targeting US
troops for a pretty long period of time. You can
argue potentially the Beirut bombings there was support what from Hesblah,
maybe some others. Certainly there have been attacks during the
(39:02):
GWATT in particular Iraq when we started to see the
very unique and sophisticated v BID vehicle born explosive devices
that could penetrate those are very sophisticated, killed a lot
of American servicemen and women, you know, and I think
(39:22):
it's they are definitely represent a threat to Israel. Now
is it an existential threat? I don't, I don't know.
I'm struggling to understand what that is. They certainly have
every right to launch whatever they want at Iran in
(39:43):
any way they want to do it, but unfortunately the
repercussions of that could be catastrophic because of not only
the amount of missile systems which some are some suggests
it's around three three thousand of missile systems. And then
we've seen a couple hyper songs kids Uh into Israel
which just completely wipe out their iron dome. So is
(40:07):
it accelerated to an existential set? Certainly we know that
they believe it is. A good friend of mine was
over there recently with a bunch of businessmen and they
were trying to see how they could support the IDF,
and you know, he got a behind the scenes look
with what was going on with the attacks on on
(40:30):
Israeli civilians and what was happening, and he was you
know it was and he saw that kind of unedited
video from October seven. Listen, I know that the people
that they support their savages, all all people who wage
terror on other people. You know, I have no love
loss for them at all, and they deserve what they get. However,
(40:53):
what I'm challenged with this is what happens next, and
that's what I'd like to see. What is the plan?
What is the plan of a regime change?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Now?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
When you get into this next part of what really
kind of emerged out of this that I thought was
fascinating was the conflict on the right that has blown up.
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the MAGA movement, and I'm working on a show to
outline that for you so you can really get down.
You want to talk about a rabbit hole that you know,
there's a couple people out there that are now using
a very prolific term called the woke right, and and
that argument has really kind of got into this you
verse them, and it seems to be really focused around
(43:18):
this Israel issue. Uh, and that's kind of the the
trigger point for these online journalist pundits whatever you want
to call us right now. So the main conflict isn't
right that's taking place with this issue the Israel Iran
issue is that let me just back up one quick
lastly too about the nuclear program. That I found fascinating
(43:42):
is that this other little piece took place as Iran was,
you know, trying to say, hey, this is all at war.
Was that several countries came to their backing, including including huh,
Pakistan and the Pakistan Who was it? I forget who
(44:02):
it was, but a Pakistani senior official said, if Israel
strikes Iran with a nuclear capability, we will strike them back. Now,
you understand, there has not been a tremendous amount of
conflict Pakistan, where it's one hundred and twenty seven million people,
who by the way, allowed bin Laden to live one
(44:25):
mile from from a major Pakistani military trainings where they
trained their officers. And if you go back and if
you look on TikTok and what basically bin Laden suggested
was his reasons for nine to eleven and for his
fight was partially because of a US support of Israel,
(44:49):
and that's available, you can find it. Now. Pakistan has
never come out and openly said anything. They've had some
rubs after the Islamic Revolution, obviously which they were entrenched
in the early eighties too, but recently with this guy,
they're basically escalating that conflict or the potential conflict between them.
(45:12):
So now you've got which is another but they are
part or no, they had put So when you think
about the atomic hw with the IAEA and the countries
that are a part of it, the two countries that
are essentially in this this whole thing that have not
been a part of the nuclear proliferation trail are Pakistan
(45:35):
and Iran. Nope, they're in there. Israel. Now, Israel has
a whole nuclear program that they do not acknowledge publicly.
We do know that it did come out. There was
a gentleman in who was wrapped up by Masad who
had leaked a bunch of documents and photos of Israel's
(46:01):
Israel's nuclear program trying to find it's his name hold on.
But what I find interesting is why does it Israel
and their program have to join the I A E. A.
I'm not sure why why that is. But again, you know,
it's up to them whether they want to be a
(46:22):
part of it or not. But now we have multiple
nuclear uh groups out there threatening each other, and that's
just bad anyways, So that Jordi has devolved in and
I know you and I've been texting frantically about the
Titans in this space, right, the Titan in the conservative
(46:43):
media space.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
You see the I mean everyone's talking about the the
Tucker Carlson, Ted Cruz. Fiasta, dude, Bro, dude, I gotta
I gotta image for you real quick.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Please, this is the joke going around.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Let's see, are we gonna put a meme.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
The gun say his name? Every Iranian?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
So the good thing about that is, like, no matter
who you agree with, Tucker Cruz, whatever side, John.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
We can all appreciate a good meme.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I think memes are literally saving the world right now.
And I'm and I'm not. That's not my line, by
the way. I think there's been hundreds of people have
said that, and we we definitely. So if you're if
you love making memes, would you do us a favor?
Would you post a meme underneath the show when we
post this show. We didn't post this tomorrow, Jordan.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
We're posting this tomorrow and it'll be on X on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
All right, perfect, We want you to post your best memes,
uh that involved me in this show or ideas or
anything about me. I'd love to see those I love,
I love if we can keep some of this light, right,
even if it's and the darker the humor, the better. Please,
I want to see it, all right. So the conflict
on right right now, this this cat fight that's brewing
(48:03):
right and I you know, I say what we call
up the UFC just started the luded jiu jitsu tournaments too.
I say, we get three against three in that jiu
jitsu jiu jitsu pit and I have we have him
go out of it like maybe wearing some medieval armor,
and we get him like the battle axes like you
you know, and then we sell the big one of
those things, the big turkey legs that everybody eatsweather dude.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Imagine imagine the pay per view on that, oh bro.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It would be.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
The big one right now is people want to see
pdbuh do a pay per view debate with Ben Shapiro
and Dave Smith, which would he was just yeah, he
was just what he was. There's a great segment he
just did with Piers Morgan h where he debated Constantine.
Constant Uh, two comedians went had to head about whatever
(48:53):
the Israel Iran thing now right now. So you got
Charlie Kirk who's on one side, Steve In, Matt Walsh,
and Tucker Carlson, and they're all essentially saying the same thing,
which is, hey, we do not need another war that
involves America in the Middle East. That's their stance when
you drill down, that's what they're saying at its court.
(49:15):
The other side, you've got Clay Travis, who we fall
underneath the bucking Clay trav Clay Travis, Sean Hannity, Glenn
Beck and Mark Levin who are on the other side.
He said, no, we have to there's no way we
have to get rid of the leadership in Iran. We
have to allow we have to have a total regime change,
(49:38):
and we have to be able to support that to
whatever degree, including boots on the ground American support. Now,
I will say that all of the other guys, Kirk, Bannon, Wals,
Carlson have all said they one hundred percent don't believe
that Iran should be able to have a nuclear weapon.
So they've said that, but they don't believe that we
(49:58):
need to engage. Now some of them have said, including Tucker, said,
you know why is American foreign policy being led by
the State of Israel and and uh, you know, and
then the other side is like they are our greatest
ally Without them, radical fundamental Uh, Islamic terrorism is going
(50:21):
to come over to America. In fact, many people who
support the attacks and regime change, including Sarah Adams who's
always on Seawan show, who are also predicting an eminent
terrorist attack in the United States. You can watch her
talk about that on Sean show. Uh. They have said,
uh that you know, unless we do this, we're under
(50:45):
direct threat that we're going to have the effects. And
then even uh, I think you know with that, Tucker
Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz insinuated that the Iranans have been
trying to kill the president for a long period of time.
He wasn't able to confirm the intelligence or anything on that,
but he says they are actively trying. All right, holy cow,
(51:09):
So ask a good question, Please send it see if
you agree with this.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Now, this isn't some hot, spicy political take. This is
just literally me trying to be what what is boring nowadays,
which is called being a little bit nuanced.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
Right, So on what what do you mean? There's no
nuance in this stuff. It's just black and white. It's
there's good guys and there's bad guys. Jordy, come on, man,
get on the train.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
That's it. Pick a train and get on.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
It's no I was gonna say, I don't think either
side is once war just in general, like nobody ever
just loves the idea of war.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
And then on another side, no one would disagree that
if you had an imminent threat coming towards the United States,
that we wouldn't use military action to defend our own nation.
Like everyone agrees on both of those points. It sounds
like where the disagreement is there's a threshold at which
America should intervene in some kind of conflict, and people
(52:10):
put that threshold at different spots. Is that kind of
That's kind of how I'm reading it.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
But what do you? What are you?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
But I agree that's that's exactly what it is. I
think everybody believes nobody wants more more American troops to die.
In particular me, I've lost so many friends, not only
to combat but also to suicide. You know, I mean
the I mean the estimates that similar like six thousand
(52:37):
former veterans or veterans are killing themselves every year, active
duty and veterans of killing them every year in America.
And that's the result of of the forever wars. You know,
there's a couple interesting people that are covering you know,
that have written amazing books. One is this guy, Scott
Horton at anti war dot com. He's got Enough Already
(52:58):
is the name of his book. I'm pretty sure. But
you know, nobody wants to engage in that anymore, in
particular my generation, my people, you know, my, my, my,
the people I care most about, people that I served
with and that I know that served in the soft community,
and you know, the Marines that were in Fallujah and
the Marja push and uh, you know Sean Parnell and
(53:22):
his crew, and you know, I mean, enough is enough already.
But I also believe that, uh, you know, people still
have this idea, this orientation that you know, uh, if
we need to step in to right or wrong, if
you will. My challenge is, you know, the past performance
(53:43):
of the US government on both sides has been pathetic,
uh in terms of of uh informing us in a
in a genuine, sincere and honest fashion. And that's what
I want. And I'm sure, that's what you want as
well too. You want to know, like, tell us, if
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there's intelligence that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt
that I Ran is weeks away or a year away
or whatever away from a nuclear capability that they can
put on their missile systems, then show me, right, if
if China is giving them new uh, you know, ballistic
(54:26):
missile support to build out this, or if Russia is
giving them a support or our Pakistan is helping them
develop you know, like K K. Khan gave them the
information to start the program. If that's real, show us
the reports, show me the intel. I need to see it, uh.
(54:47):
And then I'll i'll, I'll take a look at that
and say all right, well what's what's the risk? And
then the other thing is what's your plan? Please?
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Please?
Speaker 1 (54:58):
You know even that Yahoo man, what's your plan? What
is the plan? What is the end game? Because certainly
we know you know, he said prior to the Iraq
War that if we got rid of Saddam Hussein that
peace would flood the Middle East, and that is not
what has taken place. In fact, it destabilized the region
(55:20):
to a certain to such an extent that you know,
over a million Iraqi civilians, right, thousands of Americans both
killed and then injured, you know, tens of thousands of
injured injuries. And then not to mention the the financial
cost of the GATS what eight trillion dollars? So is
(55:42):
that are we able? First tell me show me the
intelligence right, then tell me what the plan is, right,
and then tell me how much it's going to cost
and how it's going to affect the American population, because
right now I'm still having to deal with mid night
phone calls, uh, you know, telling me, oh, guess what
(56:04):
so and so just killed himself yesterday. And I'm still
making phone calls to friends, their their their wives who
around and say and checking into how's your kid doing nowadays?
So I'm still doing that. And this is the result
of of of what we got into for twenty years now.
(56:26):
I thought what would be interesting to kind of close
this out was to do a little research right on
on our ore. What was essentially what were the flaws
behind our last getting engaged in Iraq? And and what
was the precipice which that which why they Rumsfeld and
(56:48):
and and Cheney and Bush, how they sent Colin Powell.
We bring that that that visual up while I read this, Yes,
and then when I talked about the key source, bring
him up. All right. So I'm gonna read something that
Groc produced for me, and I want you to just
listen carefully, and then i'll finish. All right, here we go.
(57:11):
The intelligence flaws behind Colin Powell's two thousand and three
UN speech claiming Iraq had weapons of mass destruction stemmed
from a mix of faulty sources, analytical missteps, and political pressure.
Let me break it down. The primary intelligence came from
the US agencies like the CIA and the DIA, with
(57:34):
input from British MI six and other allies. A key
source was in Quotation Curveball, an Iraqi defector who claimed
Iraq had mobile bio weapons labs. His vivid accounts, relayed
through German intelligence, were central to Powell's presentation, complete with
(57:55):
the diagrams. But Curveball was unreliable and hand rollers warned
he might be fabricating, and he had no direct evidence.
The CIA never interviewed him, yet his claims were treated
as fact, inflated by analysts eager to confirm suspicions. Another
flaw was over reliance on outdated unverified data. Satellite imagery
(58:20):
and intercepts were interpreted as proof of WMD cap activity,
along with aluminum tubes supposedly for nuclear centerfuges. Experts later
showed that these tubes were likely for conventional rockets, but
dissenting voices in the intelligence community, like those from the
Department of Energy were sidelined SIGAN signals. Intelligence also proved
(58:45):
ambiguous with intercepted Iraqi communications misinterpreted as WNDMD cover ups
when they often reflected routine operations. Human sources beyond Curveball
were very thin. Exiled groups like ira I Racking National Congress,
led by Ahmad Chalabi, fed unverified tips from defectors, often
(59:06):
with agendas to topple Saddam Hussein. These were taken seriously
despite known credibility issues, as they aligned with the Bush
administration goals. Political pressure wrapped the process warped. The political
pressure warped the process. Senior officials, including Cheney and Rumsfeld,
learned that the CIA leaned sorry leaned on the CIA
(59:29):
to produce intelligence supporting warp. The Office of Special Plans,
set up by Runsfeld deputy Paul Wolfowitz, cherry picked raw
data to build a case bypassing standard vetting. A two
thousand and four Senate Intelligence Committee report later slammed this
as groupthink, noting analysts overstated weak evidence to please policymakers. Finally,
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the UK's Dodgy Dossier, a similar Allied inputs reinforced US errors,
creating a feedback loop of badg intel. Powell spent days
at CIA headquarters vetting his speech, but even he was
fed a script built off these shaky pillars. He later
call it a blot on his record, as post war
(01:00:12):
inspections found no WMD stockpiles. The flaws originated a toxic
mix dubious sources, rushed analysis, suppressed dissidents, and a White
House driven ideological certainty post nine to eleven. Okay, now,
(01:00:33):
I don't know about you, Jordi, but that track record
is pretty poor. And I have three four young daughters,
one getting ready to go off to college, who will
be over eighteen here soon and will be up to
be recruited to go to war should this thing explode
(01:00:54):
into a greater kinetic fight. The track record for doubt
is significant, and that is cause enough to be able
to question whether or not America should engauge at a
higher level. That's just common sense. But also common sense
(01:01:15):
is to recognize that when you have strategic partners with people,
it's also critical do adhere to those partnerships because if
you don't and when you need them at times, they're
not going to be there. So I guess what we're
gonna do, Jordie, is we're going to stand by to
stand by. All right, Thank you so much everybody. I
(01:01:38):
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we've got there. All right, Jordy, man, I'll tell you
what I don't know. If net week, if next week
is heavier than this week, Bro, this thing's going to
turn into a three hour show man.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
It might, it might, but you know what, three hours
just gets us more memes, so you know.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
And God knows we need and God knows we need
more means. All right, all right, thank you very much
for your support everybody, God bless you and who yuh
Political assassinations, twenty twenty election fraud, the fight between the
right and my thoughts. This is the David Brutherford choke.
I hope everybody's had an awesome week like I have,
absolutely with my eyeballs glued to my phone screen and
(00:22):
next it's rare that I ever have such Actually it's
not rare at all. Just ask my family that I'm
completely overwhelmed by the news cycle. And right now I
think it's more than just a news cycle. I feel
like I have the news intravenously shoved into my ant
(00:44):
A cubable and a cubable is that right? That? That
ain't right, Geordie, an a cubable, my aunt whatever that
big old fat vein is. Although my although my veins
aren't that that fat. Actually, when I was at eighteen Delta,
I was the guy that they would use to practice
IVS because my veins are so bad. Now I don't
know if that was my rampant drinking or my fatigue
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or whatever it was, or just deep thrombosis, but uh,
they used to use me. So I always look like
a heroin addict. But you know, currently right now, Jeordie,
I I have I am what is known in certain
circles as an addiction to what's going on in world
events right now. And I know you you you are
(01:28):
the recipient of my uh and unending uh suggestions about
stories and news. So how are you doing? Are are
you addicted as well? Too? I know you're you're on
the precipice of having a new baby, so you're probably
pretty uh healthy, healthy healthily, that's not the right You're
pretty healthy in terms of your distractions.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I bet well.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, see, I had a whole plan. I'm on, like
you said, the precipice of having a baby. It could
happen literally like any time between right now, in this
recording or in like a week from now. We're in
that zone. And I was like, you know what, I'm
going to get the distractions out of my life. I'm
going to get offline a little bit, kind of clear
my head, make sure I'm ready. And then this week happened,
and it's impossible to look away from her phone, like
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this was the news week of newsweeks.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I think you're right, man, I think honestly this was
the one that just went high and right right, you know,
this was the one I swear to God. And then
my You know what, let's just go through some of
it and then I'll love commentary long way. All right,
let's so let's talk political assassinations. So this week, unfortunately,
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and our prayers and thoughts go out to the families
of these victims. You know, there was an attempted assassination
by senator State Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette.
And then there was an actual political assassination of Melissa
Hartman and her husband Mark, and she was a state
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representative too. You know, when the governor Waltz got up
and gave his little press conference, they said, you know
that this was politically motivated and that since then we
found out pretty much who this vance Luther Boltler guy
was and kind of what had taken place. Now, the
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crazy thing to me on this one was the guy
to the depths of his trade craft he went to
prosecute or to assassinate these people. Where she got that
photograph for me, JORDI, Yeah, I mean when you look
at that right now, I mean that dude he's got
kid on, he's dressed like a cop, and he's got
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a real latex mask on. And that's how he was
able to kind of get past the intuitive defensive state
of these people and getting in. He also had a
police card and you can kind of see in the
background the flashing lights there. Well, you know, when this
guy first showed up to the Hoffman house, they opened
the door and this guy opened fire. He got back
(03:59):
in his call uh and and drove over to uh
Melissa Hortman and her husband. Now, what's crazy about this
one was that the cops actually started a routine call
and showed up at their house when this guy was
at the door. Now, when they pulled up, he turned
and he opened fire on on the cops and was
(04:20):
able to still go in, shoot them dead, and run
out the back door and get away. That that, you know,
for me, is is pretty difficult that those police officers
did not assault through I never saw any any video
on whether or not they had. I knew they took contact,
but whether or not they had gotten shot, which I
don't think they did. Now, the interesting thing about this
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whole thing, Geordie and and and you know was, and
this was the kicker that kind of got the hook
in me on why this was a little which which
really was fascinating was not the fact that this guy
had you know, no Kings flyers in his desk or
you know, he had been appointed by Waltz on some
you know, some board, but it was more so or
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his manifesto where he had a whole list, like I
think there were seventy potential targets that he had listed,
you know, I think it was it was really it
was the idea that this woman, Melissa Hortman, had just
voted against her party line and to reject giving state
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health care services and money and aid to illegal aliens.
Would you play that video for me and we can
kind of get a check of the heaviness of that
decision for her.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I know that people will be hurt by that vote,
and I'm we worked very hard to try to get
a budget deal.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That wouldn't include that provision.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Now, you know, I see that, and that obviously that
took a heavy heart for her to file through with that.
But you know, I perhaps that wasn't And this guy
seems like he was a real whack job. I mean,
you know, I mean, the pre the level of premeditation
for this to get in the costume to do that
whole thing. Man, that that's pretty pretty heavy.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
One of the interesting things I found was that he
was described by a neighbor of him or guy worked
with him, Charlie Klik, who was a web designer with
him for over decade. He was saying he was clearly
very religious, very passionate and devout and sincereous beliefs. Now,
there was videos of him. You know, I get think
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down in the congo like preaching or whatever, and you know,
I for me, it's like this guy kind of wasn't
all there. He had several businesses that really didn't have
any deliverables. So you know, in my mind, this guy
had just reached the breaking point, which is to me,
what the real challenges that we're facing right now. You know,
(07:04):
I don't know about you, Jordy, but over the last
ten years or so, I think the political rhetoric has
become pretty ferocious.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
One hundred percent. I mean, in my lifetime, I've never
seen it that bad. I heard it what used to
be pretty bad. There was a time maybe around Vietnam
where it got rough. I know, during probably the Civil
War it was rough. But at least in my lifetime,
I haven't seen that well.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We've seen it getting worse and worse and worse, you know,
going back as far as we're you know, just I
think the ones that really pop out of my mind
are the Maxine Walt Waters, you know, suggesting we need
to go and get in the faces of people of
MAGA people obviously Chuck Schumer, you know, his comments about,
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you know, we need to fight harder. You know, there's
a bunch of them out there. I think we also
have it on our side, although you know, there's a
good argument that conservatives have a greater restraint on them
then left us.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Uh, I don't think any degree.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't either. I don't. I think we you know,
we talk about we do more character assassinations than actual assassinations.
I know I should joke about it.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But they had the they had the Trump Hitler Time
Magazine thing, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right, that's right. So I mean think about psychologically when
you do that over and over and over. Now, you
know people that are you know, not able to access
or choose not to access multiple planes of information. They're
they're they're still watching MSNBC, they're still watching Fox News
every night or ABC, and they haven't broken out. They're
(08:44):
they're not on X, they're not on Really that's the
only place to be it's the number one news site
in the world where you can aggregate all this stuff
and get these fee you know, from all different types
of not only traditional journalists, but independence as well too.
And and you know, when I look at the things
over the last several years, I mean, we had Gabby Gifford,
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you know, she was Democrats. She tried to someone tried
to kill her representative, Steve Scalise in twenty seventeen. They
shot him at a at a softball. We saw that
Brett Kavanaugh, there was an assassination at Tempee Supreme Court.
And then I mean the kicker is the Trump assassinations, which,
by the way, we still don't have any a deep
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explanation for any of those things. Now, I did see
a little clip from Dan Bongino where he said if
there was something there, we would we would expose it.
But he keeps saying that a lot lately. So I'm
at a little suspect on whether or not we're ever
going to get any of that stuff anyways. And I
also do believe that if there is an active investigation,
he doesn't have to tell anybody squat, if you know
(09:49):
what I mean. All Right, So that political assassage. My
main thing about there, the oversight is like, hey, if
you're living in a place and a time where where
people are are are going big and talking about getting
in people's faces and we need to fight back and
we need revolution and tearing stuff down, and people are
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the anti Christ and people are hitler and guess what, man,
the people who don't have lives, or even the people
who do, because I mean some of the propaganda is
really good nowadays. And if you get in there and
you condition folks, they're going to lose their minds and
they're going to begin to enter into that space of
moral relativism where they're going to basically be able to
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justify someone being torn down from their position through any
means necessary. And I think you see some of the
lowest forms of that, and people like Keen Tesla's or
you know, spitting on them or whatever all the way
to put people setting things on fire, and and real
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world assassinations or even worse. You saw, you know, those
the assassinations from those two Jewish people that were gunned
down in the streets uh in New York and some
of the other stuff. So we're in a space where, man,
if we don't figure out how to how to lower
that that rhetoric, you know. For me, uh, there are
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these times in history where this stuff just starts to
build and build and build, and people hit their breaking point.
And with a country that is uh on more mental health,
that has more mental health challenges than just about every
country in the in the world. Uh and more people
on on psychotropic and SSI uptake inhibitors and popping all
(11:38):
kinds of stuff. Man. Uh, I think we're we're things
are getting spicy. So for me, what should I do?
I think I'm going to say, hey, man, try and
chill a little bit, have a little bit more critical
thinking and and let's just tone the rhetoric down by
the for the proper cando. So all right, jeordie, what
do you think Let's go to the next one.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Huh, let's do it. Let's do it.
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this one blew me away. Hey, can you can you
te up that shot with John Solomon for me? Yes,
thank you, About as draw jaw dropping as you can get, sir.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, let's set the stage.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Let's remind everybody that in December of twenty twenty, sixty
minutes air to piece with the head of the Homeland
Security Cybersecurity Division saying there were no foreign intrusions in
the twenty twenty election. It was a perfectly clean election.
And he said, I think it was Chris Crabs was
his name. We now know that to have been a
false procable. First we know a year later, in twenty one,
(14:02):
a bunch of Iranians were indicted in Manhattan on charges
that they interfered in the election and ACKed into a
state database to obtain voter IDs and use them in
a mal influence operation against the American election. Now we
know there was a second country that was more deeply
involved in meddling into the election. The FBI in August
(14:26):
twenty twenty, so, three and a half months before the
votes were cast that put Joe Biden in the presidency,
that FBI believed that China had begun a mass operation
to produce fake US driver's license them move them to
the United States and have Chinese citizens here on ARSA,
both legally and illegally go out and get fake mail
(14:49):
in ballots and vote to try to elect Joe Biden.
By the way, the FBI intelligence says this Chinese operation
from a Chinese intelligence source that the FBI was handling,
was designed to help Joe Biden beat Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's very important, right, geority. Yeah, So, I mean you
you listen to that and you're like, holy cow, that's explosive,
you know. Cash Betel sending this report to Senator Grassley
basically confirming there was active foreign investigation interference going on
in the twenty twenty election. Now, the crazy thing to me,
(15:25):
if we go back and we review you know, some
of the testimony from Chris Way, he explicitly said, nope,
it was good to go. There was nothing. We found nothing. Well,
also within that report, John Solomon goes on to say
that that the the intelligence, that intelligence was sent out
to all other intelligence agencies and said hey, heads up.
(15:46):
Then they said all right, destroy it, send it back.
We're going to do another interview with this this this
asset and go from there. So, you know, to me,
they knew something was going on. I mean, I don't
know about you, Jordan, but you want to talk about
another news cycle where I was mental? Yeah, you know,
especially after I had gotten locked out of social media
(16:07):
about a month and a half prior to that. You know,
in my little Spidey sense is going there's more shit
going on than we know for sure. And then I
paid close attention to all the hearings, all the little stuff.
I remember I was. I was on the phone with
Bernie Carritt, God rest his soul, you know, and we
were talking about what they were trying to get done. Afterwards,
and all you know, him and Rudy Giuliotti, with all
(16:32):
their investigations and all the hearings they went through. Now,
you know, all you got to do is is really
just dig in a little bit, have the tenacity to
say to go beyond oh the US government that was
a part of the cyber security team, to which now
through Mike Ben's's incredible work along with Michael Schallenberger and
(16:55):
Matt Tayibe, discovered that there was a coordinated f not
just with social media, with Twitter, Facebook. Zuck has come
out and openly admit it to Google. But we also
know that places like the Aspen Institute Stanford had a
cyber disinformation thing. Multiple other colleges around the country participated.
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We're in conjunction with the US government, funded by these
different homeland programs, agency programs, USAID programs to basically silence
any of this information and discredit it immediately. All right,
now there's another kicker to this thing too, and we
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know that the Gateway Pundit has also done great investigative journalism,
and go ahead and pull up that one about what
they found.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Sensational video and photo evidence has emerged exposing a factory
in Guangdong producing five hundred thousand blank American ballot. It's
the Gateway Pundit and online news publication confirmed that the
video was provided by Vanessa A. Olivitez, a third generation
member of the Chinese Communist Party. Veness tweated on November
nine that the printing planting Guandong, China, was printing out
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fake ballots, which were then mailed to Canada and Mexico
under the name of medical supplies between August and October
twenty twenty, and from there flown into the United States.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So all right, we got that. Now we also have
this this is the one. This is the other one.
And you can find this just just look up Pennsylvania
Trucker's testimony, right, and this cat right here he under
a sworn deposition, right? And what do you call that?
When they're what's the word I'm looking for? That's what happens, man,
(18:49):
When I get this fired up, my brain starts to
melt a little bit. Jordy, what's the thing when you
give a sworn state affidata? Thank you very much. I
knew it was going to pop up. I just had
a rout my nut a little bit, just a little
shake and rattle. And and so this guy his sworn
aff of David. He said that he picked up over
(19:09):
two hundred and thirty thousand already filled out ballots in
his trailer in Bethpage, New York, and drove them to Lancaster, PA,
right before the twenty twenty elections.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So it's nice when they're already filled out for you.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It's helpful, brow bro, because then you can just put
them in with your machine and run him through.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Your machine, two or three pan out and filling in
the bubble. And you know, none of that, dude, None
of that.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
None of that, like like what happened down in Fulton County,
Georgia when the when the pipes broke right, and there's
more evidence from them, they came out like if you
go and you look at the there's a video. I
don't have that. I forgot to get that to you. Sorry, Jeordi,
but there's a reason. Actually you can just look up
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a Georgia election committee. And what they did is they
went back and they investigated and there was over two
hundred and fifty thousand ballots there that didn't have the
proper chain of command and didn't have ballot images to
go with it for that chain of command. They came
out and openly admitted that last year as well too.
(20:20):
We do me a quick favorite uardy just for shits employees.
Huh would you give me that? Would you please tell me?
In the twenty twenty election in the Swing States, what
was the margin of victory for old sleepy Joe Biden
or we should say auto Ben Biden?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Right, I'm looking enough right now, all right, all.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Right, So we got that. Then we also have the
Arizona conducted a massive investigation and found a bunch of
discrepancies to which the Secretary of State never went forward
with their findings. Right, you had Antrim County, Michigan. They
had they discovered a hard drive that was actually flipped
(21:00):
like six thousand votes in real time or flip. Then Muskegan, Michigan,
there was a big thing that they actually look it up.
Muskegan Mission twenty twenty election fraud. The Miskegan Sheriff for somebody.
They did this huge investigating found there was an act
illegalities in their thing. They actually submitted that to the FBI.
(21:25):
And you know who corroborated that. The folks over at
true the vote Jeordie Kathy Egelbrick and her husband or
I don't think it's yeah, her husband Greg. I forget
what Greg's last name is? Right now? Would you? Did
you come up with those numbers yet?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah? Give me a here.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'm gonna pull it up here on the screen here
because we're we're.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Fancy over here. Or you always have to improve what
you're doing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Dude, Well, we got a long way to go. We
got we got an unlimited space for me to improve,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Here here we go, all right, so I can read
this for you. It says yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Please.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
In the twenty twenty US presidential election, Joe Biden won
the presidency with three hundred and six electoral votes to
Donald Trump's two hundred and thirty two. The popular vote
margin was approximately seven million votes, with Biden receiving eighty
one million and some change votes fifty one point three
percent and Trump receiving seventy four million and some change
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votes forty six point nine percent. So that's your that's
your margin. So he beat him by what's give me?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Give me the ones thet give give me the ones
on the bottom there with Georgia, Wisconsin and the other.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
The swing states, they are much narrower.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
For example, Biden won Arizona by about ten thousand votes,
Georgia by eleven thousand, Wisconsin by about twenty thousand votes.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, right there, All right, First, don't even get me
started on the eighty one million votes that no human,
no presidential race in human history, has ever even gotten that.
Where are those thirteen million votes from this last election?
Right and you go back and you review, did I
just get set down that damn rabbit hole right there?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You can just feel it.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's like a tractor beam on some kind of like
it's a conspiratorial tractor beam that just sucks me in, dude.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Anyways, So when you have those margins at that tight
air ten eleven, twenty thousand, and then you start to
integrate these stories back here and the personal one that
really just drives me absolutely bonkers, and that's the story
of Tina Peters, who was part of Clark County election
board and she discovered in real time she knew something
(23:34):
was fishy, so she made a copy of the hard
drive and categorically proved that that hard drive had been
manipulated in real time. Now for her efforts to try
and point out election interference, she was indicted on ten
different counts, including criminal conspiracy and several others by the
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Secretary of State in Colorado. And if you look up
the jud there's video of the judge scolding her as
if she's some major criminal. Now, this one's near and
dear to my heart, because Tina Peters is a gold
star mother and her son was an av seal and
died overseas, and so you know the fact that that
took place. You combine that with all of these other
(24:17):
intel reports and news reports about fishiness. Man if if
if the DOJ and Pamboni don't open up an active
investigation now based on what cash Ptel just delivered, it's
it would seem that they're actually looking into it, which
thank god, they're going to prosecute potentially something that they're
they ran on. I'd love to see it. And then also,
(24:39):
don't forget the old Mike Lindell. You want to watch
some stuff that will melt your mind.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Jordi, everything's built in my mind this way.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, that's what I'm saying. If you go back and
you you know, every year since then, Mike Lindell had
this cyber security thing every single summer and had people
all the like top secure cybersecurity experts out there review
the vulnerabilities, which you know, there's several documentaries that were
(25:08):
made in twenty nineteen and earlier. In fact, what's crazy
to me is that after Trump's first election, the entire
left they were like, our elections are fried. I mean
Clinton herself, who actually did the nefarious reality of Russiagate
and orchestrated in greenlit the whole bullshit about him and
(25:30):
the p tapes and all that stuff. I mean, that
drives me nuts. Then she's saying, you know, the elections
were a sham strolling.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
By Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It was stolen. Yeah, that's right. But twenty twenty, man,
that one was the clean, perfect election. Yeah, it's just garbage, man.
And so this is a much bigger story. I hope again,
do your homework, get out there, look this stuff up.
Go get an ex account, right you Who's groc? We're
(26:01):
at Groc three, which is kind of sadly one of
my new best friends. But that's super Groc now, you know,
it's funny, dude, I was, you know now, like I'll
be in the middle of dinner with the kids and
they'll say something. I'm like that that's bs, and I'm like,
I'm gonna look it up. And it used to be
that female voice. And there was something strange, like some
(26:23):
kind of weird like they were always ready to go
towards like the bizarre, you know, kind of a little
you know, innuendo, towards flirtation and stuff. My wife looks
at me and goes, what are you doing? So I
had to shift to the dude and the dudes he's cool,
but we're starting to brow out a little bit. So
I think, you know, I probably got I probably got
(26:45):
at least probably about seven more months before, like my
new full best friend is groc you know.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
The dude Groc. Yeah, what's coming on to you? Bro?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Dude, that's the only you know, that's the only place
I get it. That's horrible to say about my wife. Man,
I'm sorry, sweetie, I love you, all right, all right.
So twenty twenty twenty election. Man, that that's a big one,
all right. That's not even the biggie. That's not even the.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Bigger one of these stories would have been a crazy
week one one.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Bro. Now they're just like they're down here. They don't
even they don't even top the news, the news the
top of the news waves, the news John, the news
cress there. All right, let's hit it, shall we? All Right?
The next one is the one that's the most concerning,
obviously for me, for many different reasons, mostly because of
(27:37):
my extensive time overseas and the loss of life that
I have with a lot of my friends and and
and peers and people from my community over the last
twenty plus years of the g WATT. This is another
potential global escalation and hot war in the Middle East
(28:01):
between Israel and Iran. If you're not really understand this.
You know, prior to nineteen seventy nine, when the Islamic
Revolution overthrew the Shah, who, by the way, we installed
in early nineteen fifties and if you want to go
down that rabbit hole, that's a doozy there. Brett Weinstein
(28:24):
on the Dark Horse podcast he covered that a little
bit this week. You know, once they got overthrown. It
was after that when kind of the Islamic revolutions in
the Eyetoll has really started to have bad relations. They
had kind of had semi normal relations prior to that,
and I think, you know, over the years that has
(28:46):
just progressively gotten worse. Why because Iran is the number
one sponsor of terrorism in the region with Hamas and
Hesba lah to which you know, both of those organizations
have been actively trying to seek an intifada in a
war with Israel. I think that kind of culminated on
(29:09):
October seventh, where most intelligence believed that Hamas had full
backing from Iran as well as other extremist Islamic extremist
groups out there, you know, and you know, there was
a lot of other things, you know, Iran or Israel,
(29:31):
baumb the Iranian consulate in Damascus. This is back in
April twenty four, killing the senior irc GC officials. Iran
retaliated with over three hundred drones on April thirteenth. July
thirty first, twenty four was the assassination of leader Ismail
(29:52):
Haneiya and Tehran. September twenty fourth, Israel killed Hesblah leader
Hassan Nasara Lebanon, to which Iran reacted with one hundred
and eighty ballistic missiles. You know, and I think in
this initial one which began it, it really was, hey, listen,
(30:14):
Iran is going to have a nuclear weapon and we
can't deal. And they didn't say how close. They said
that they had moved past the threshold. There was report
from the IEA dinging them that they had increased uranium
production and that violated their non proliferation obligations. And that
(30:39):
was on June twelfth. So you know what happened on
June twelfth Operation Rising Lion, where essentially you had Israel
basically go big man and they launched a massive strike
(31:00):
on their positions and let's say they hit the nata's
nuclear site. The Isfaran Nuclear Research had a bunch of military,
over one hundred military targets, including missile defense sites, the
IRGC headquarters, senior military figures including the IRGC Commander, General
(31:21):
Hassan Selamant Salomi, the Chief of General Chief of Staff,
General Mohammad of Bagheri, along with some nuclear scientists and
some others. I mean, apparently they said their cat their
Iran's Health Ministry said two hundred and twenty four deaths,
mostly civilians, including twenty children. Israel's justificasing it was their
(31:45):
last chance if they didn't do this, that they were
going to have it now. I will say, you know always,
I mean there are ally and we you know, we
you know, you have a certain adherence to them. But
there are mashups going around x last few days of
(32:06):
the fact that Nenyahu has basically been saying this for
the past twenty five years, that they were right on
the prespice. In fact, I was part of a program
at Blackwater where we were helping build out kind of
a maritime reconnaissance capability in the country of Iran excuse me,
(32:26):
Azerbaijan back in two thousand and four into five, and
we were hoping that they would be able to run
surveillance on the ships moving from Russia in Iran, Iran
into Russia carrying nuclear materials, and we'd get some information
through that. Now it was two thousand and five, and
at then they were on the precipice of a nuclear weapon.
(32:48):
You know. Iran's initial response that this was a declaration
of war. They hit massive targeting over the last several years,
including people trying to cut the head off the snake. Well, uh,
and so he called it a declaration of war. Now,
the interesting thing initially about this was that Mark Rubio
(33:08):
had come out and said, hey, listen, we did not participate. Uh,
they did this on their own. Then that kind of
morphed into a Trump saying, yeah, we knew that what
was up. We were, we were in support of it.
We didn't, you know, participate Ted Cruz. I'll get the
Ted cruise in a second. And and then Trump ultimately
(33:29):
called for Iran's unconditional surrender. So that's that's the interesting
run one right there. Unconditional surrender. Now, what does that mean.
Nobody's in the administration has yet to fully outline what
an unconditional surrender is. I'm hoping that it's uh uh,
(33:51):
what it means is that they're going to stop their
desire for nuclear proliferation and continue to build or guests
move towards a box. And by the way, you have
to understand that we actually supported the beginning of their
nuclear power back in the fifties as well too, so
we participated in the initiation of that. And I will
(34:12):
say they have allowed the atomic the IEA in there
over the course of years. I mean, if you go
back and you dig in a little bit on the
agreement that was cut under the Abomba administration to the
tune of sending them billions of dollars in cash pallets,
that's interesting. But what really happened was the response I
(34:32):
think has been a little bit more shocking than everybody imagine.
They started launching missiles, hundreds of missiles hitting Tel Aviv,
Haifa and Pitak Kiva, killing people. They have purported four
elderly residents, including eighty seven. That was June fifteenth, counter
(34:53):
strikes Netahau's statement and then where they started saying we're
not ruling out striking the Supreme Leader Kamani. So it
really just kind of its culminated and just on June nineteenth,
which was today, I ran hit a hospital. No deaths
(35:17):
were reported. You know, if you go on the other
side and you look at at what the other side
has reported. Reuters actually reported that the IDF had bombed
hospitals in Gaza. Again, I think everybody always says, well,
they housed terraces and Theirs and Israel's like they're hitting
civilian targets. Meanwhile, at the end of both sides, I
(35:39):
think civilians at high numbers have the potential to die.
I think Gosin's I'm not even sure what those numbers are,
but they're high. Not Yahoo's defense minister just came out
and I want to play this little clip for you
right now. You got that, Jordan, I will go your name,
(36:16):
all right, So this man should not continue. It exists.
So what we really started out.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
With for for people on the on audio only, what
did he say?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh my god, I thought everybody uh in the here
spoke Persian. My bad. I saw it. And you know
it's funny. My person is pretty much extends to stop,
don't move, or I'll shoot you in the face, or
used to anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, and where's the bathroom?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Uh No, I didn't have to worry about that stuff
over there, So the reality is he basically came out
and said, listen, Kamani has to go. And I think
that's what the whole thing is escalated to now, where
it's like we started with, I cannot have a nuclear
weapon right or produce nuclear weapons, absolutely, not no chance
(37:06):
in how to Now it's we need a complete regime change.
And this has been an objective of foreign policy for
our government for quite a long time, and it's definitely
been a major objective for Netau and his government, you know,
And so what does that mean now? Luckily I I
(37:29):
just saw a report today from Jack Probisak pro How
do you Pasovic? I'm sorry Jack, if you hear this,
which you probably won't, but he came out just earlier
and said Trump is going to have a two week
pause before they retaliate. Now I'm hoping that this is
(37:51):
more of Trump's master for masterful negotiation, kind of let's
make a deal tactics, like yeah, we're all in, we're
going to support. We moved two carrier groups into the area.
Maybe it gives them time to reposition troops to move
troops out. We have about fifty forty to fifty thousand
troops in the region, all by which Iranian missile systems
(38:15):
can strike those locations. There's a huge group of super
of fuel tankers that moved over into Europe, left the
country two days ago, So there is definitely a build
up to support and get behind Israel and all this.
So what are you supposed to think about all this? Well,
(38:39):
my idea, my belief is that you know, Iran, our
bunch of pretty crazy people. They have been targeting US
troops for a pretty long period of time. You can
argue potentially the Beirut bombings there was support what from Hesblah,
maybe some others. Certainly there have been attacks during the
(39:02):
GWATT in particular Iraq when we started to see the
very unique and sophisticated v BID vehicle born explosive devices
that could penetrate those are very sophisticated, killed a lot
of American servicemen and women, you know, and I think
(39:22):
it's they are definitely represent a threat to Israel. Now
is it an existential threat? I don't, I don't know.
I'm struggling to understand what that is. They certainly have
every right to launch whatever they want at Iran in
(39:43):
any way they want to do it, but unfortunately the
repercussions of that could be catastrophic because of not only
the amount of missile systems which some are some suggests
it's around three three thousand of missile systems. And then
we've seen a couple hyper songs kids Uh into Israel
which just completely wipe out their iron dome. So is
(40:07):
it accelerated to an existential set? Certainly we know that
they believe it is. A good friend of mine was
over there recently with a bunch of businessmen and they
were trying to see how they could support the IDF,
and you know, he got a behind the scenes look
with what was going on with the attacks on on
(40:30):
Israeli civilians and what was happening, and he was you
know it was and he saw that kind of unedited
video from October seven. Listen, I know that the people
that they support their savages, all all people who wage
terror on other people. You know, I have no love
loss for them at all, and they deserve what they get. However,
(40:53):
what I'm challenged with this is what happens next, and
that's what I'd like to see. What is the plan?
What is the plan of a regime change?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Now?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
When you get into this next part of what really
kind of emerged out of this that I thought was
fascinating was the conflict on the right that has blown up.
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(42:55):
the MAGA movement, and I'm working on a show to
outline that for you so you can really get down.
You want to talk about a rabbit hole that you know,
there's a couple people out there that are now using
a very prolific term called the woke right, and and
that argument has really kind of got into this you
verse them, and it seems to be really focused around
(43:18):
this Israel issue. Uh, and that's kind of the the
trigger point for these online journalist pundits whatever you want
to call us right now. So the main conflict isn't
right that's taking place with this issue the Israel Iran
issue is that let me just back up one quick
lastly too about the nuclear program. That I found fascinating
(43:42):
is that this other little piece took place as Iran was,
you know, trying to say, hey, this is all at war.
Was that several countries came to their backing, including including huh,
Pakistan and the Pakistan Who was it? I forget who
(44:02):
it was, but a Pakistani senior official said, if Israel
strikes Iran with a nuclear capability, we will strike them back. Now,
you understand, there has not been a tremendous amount of
conflict Pakistan, where it's one hundred and twenty seven million people,
who by the way, allowed bin Laden to live one
(44:25):
mile from from a major Pakistani military trainings where they
trained their officers. And if you go back and if
you look on TikTok and what basically bin Laden suggested
was his reasons for nine to eleven and for his
fight was partially because of a US support of Israel,
(44:49):
and that's available, you can find it. Now. Pakistan has
never come out and openly said anything. They've had some
rubs after the Islamic Revolution, obviously which they were entrenched
in the early eighties too, but recently with this guy,
they're basically escalating that conflict or the potential conflict between them.
(45:12):
So now you've got which is another but they are
part or no, they had put So when you think
about the atomic hw with the IAEA and the countries
that are a part of it, the two countries that
are essentially in this this whole thing that have not
been a part of the nuclear proliferation trail are Pakistan
(45:35):
and Iran. Nope, they're in there. Israel. Now, Israel has
a whole nuclear program that they do not acknowledge publicly.
We do know that it did come out. There was
a gentleman in who was wrapped up by Masad who
had leaked a bunch of documents and photos of Israel's
(46:01):
Israel's nuclear program trying to find it's his name hold on.
But what I find interesting is why does it Israel
and their program have to join the I A E. A.
I'm not sure why why that is. But again, you know,
it's up to them whether they want to be a
(46:22):
part of it or not. But now we have multiple
nuclear uh groups out there threatening each other, and that's
just bad anyways, So that Jordi has devolved in and
I know you and I've been texting frantically about the
Titans in this space, right, the Titan in the conservative
(46:43):
media space.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
You see the I mean everyone's talking about the the
Tucker Carlson, Ted Cruz. Fiasta, dude, Bro, dude, I gotta
I gotta image for you real quick.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Please, this is the joke going around.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Let's see, are we gonna put a meme.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
The gun say his name? Every Iranian?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
So the good thing about that is, like, no matter
who you agree with, Tucker Cruz, whatever side, John.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
We can all appreciate a good meme.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I think memes are literally saving the world right now.
And I'm and I'm not. That's not my line, by
the way. I think there's been hundreds of people have
said that, and we we definitely. So if you're if
you love making memes, would you do us a favor?
Would you post a meme underneath the show when we
post this show. We didn't post this tomorrow, Jordan.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
We're posting this tomorrow and it'll be on X on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
All right, perfect, We want you to post your best memes,
uh that involved me in this show or ideas or
anything about me. I'd love to see those I love,
I love if we can keep some of this light, right,
even if it's and the darker the humor, the better. Please,
I want to see it, all right. So the conflict
on right right now, this this cat fight that's brewing
(48:03):
right and I you know, I say what we call
up the UFC just started the luded jiu jitsu tournaments too.
I say, we get three against three in that jiu
jitsu jiu jitsu pit and I have we have him
go out of it like maybe wearing some medieval armor,
and we get him like the battle axes like you
you know, and then we sell the big one of
those things, the big turkey legs that everybody eatsweather dude.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Imagine imagine the pay per view on that, oh bro.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It would be.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
The big one right now is people want to see
pdbuh do a pay per view debate with Ben Shapiro
and Dave Smith, which would he was just yeah, he
was just what he was. There's a great segment he
just did with Piers Morgan h where he debated Constantine.
Constant Uh, two comedians went had to head about whatever
(48:53):
the Israel Iran thing now right now. So you got
Charlie Kirk who's on one side, Steve In, Matt Walsh,
and Tucker Carlson, and they're all essentially saying the same thing,
which is, hey, we do not need another war that
involves America in the Middle East. That's their stance when
you drill down, that's what they're saying at its court.
(49:15):
The other side, you've got Clay Travis, who we fall
underneath the bucking Clay trav Clay Travis, Sean Hannity, Glenn
Beck and Mark Levin who are on the other side.
He said, no, we have to there's no way we
have to get rid of the leadership in Iran. We
have to allow we have to have a total regime change,
(49:38):
and we have to be able to support that to
whatever degree, including boots on the ground American support. Now,
I will say that all of the other guys, Kirk, Bannon, Wals,
Carlson have all said they one hundred percent don't believe
that Iran should be able to have a nuclear weapon.
So they've said that, but they don't believe that we
(49:58):
need to engage. Now some of them have said, including Tucker, said,
you know why is American foreign policy being led by
the State of Israel and and uh, you know, and
then the other side is like they are our greatest
ally Without them, radical fundamental Uh, Islamic terrorism is going
(50:21):
to come over to America. In fact, many people who
support the attacks and regime change, including Sarah Adams who's
always on Seawan show, who are also predicting an eminent
terrorist attack in the United States. You can watch her
talk about that on Sean show. Uh. They have said,
uh that you know, unless we do this, we're under
(50:45):
direct threat that we're going to have the effects. And
then even uh, I think you know with that, Tucker
Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz insinuated that the Iranans have been
trying to kill the president for a long period of time.
He wasn't able to confirm the intelligence or anything on that,
but he says they are actively trying. All right, holy cow,
(51:09):
So ask a good question, Please send it see if
you agree with this.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Now, this isn't some hot, spicy political take. This is
just literally me trying to be what what is boring nowadays,
which is called being a little bit nuanced.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
Right, So on what what do you mean? There's no
nuance in this stuff. It's just black and white. It's
there's good guys and there's bad guys. Jordy, come on, man,
get on the train.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
That's it. Pick a train and get on.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
It's no I was gonna say, I don't think either
side is once war just in general, like nobody ever
just loves the idea of war.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
And then on another side, no one would disagree that
if you had an imminent threat coming towards the United States,
that we wouldn't use military action to defend our own nation.
Like everyone agrees on both of those points. It sounds
like where the disagreement is there's a threshold at which
America should intervene in some kind of conflict, and people
(52:10):
put that threshold at different spots. Is that kind of
That's kind of how I'm reading it.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
But what do you? What are you?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
But I agree that's that's exactly what it is. I
think everybody believes nobody wants more more American troops to die.
In particular me, I've lost so many friends, not only
to combat but also to suicide. You know, I mean
the I mean the estimates that similar like six thousand
(52:37):
former veterans or veterans are killing themselves every year, active
duty and veterans of killing them every year in America.
And that's the result of of the forever wars. You know,
there's a couple interesting people that are covering you know,
that have written amazing books. One is this guy, Scott
Horton at anti war dot com. He's got Enough Already
(52:58):
is the name of his book. I'm pretty sure. But
you know, nobody wants to engage in that anymore, in
particular my generation, my people, you know, my, my, my,
the people I care most about, people that I served
with and that I know that served in the soft community,
and you know, the Marines that were in Fallujah and
the Marja push and uh, you know Sean Parnell and
(53:22):
his crew, and you know, I mean, enough is enough already.
But I also believe that, uh, you know, people still
have this idea, this orientation that you know, uh, if
we need to step in to right or wrong, if
you will. My challenge is, you know, the past performance
(53:43):
of the US government on both sides has been pathetic,
uh in terms of of uh informing us in a
in a genuine, sincere and honest fashion. And that's what
I want. And I'm sure, that's what you want as
well too. You want to know, like, tell us, if
(54:05):
there's intelligence that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt
that I Ran is weeks away or a year away
or whatever away from a nuclear capability that they can
put on their missile systems, then show me, right, if
if China is giving them new uh, you know, ballistic
(54:26):
missile support to build out this, or if Russia is
giving them a support or our Pakistan is helping them
develop you know, like K K. Khan gave them the
information to start the program. If that's real, show us
the reports, show me the intel. I need to see it, uh.
(54:47):
And then I'll i'll, I'll take a look at that
and say all right, well what's what's the risk? And
then the other thing is what's your plan? Please?
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Please?
Speaker 1 (54:58):
You know even that Yahoo man, what's your plan? What
is the plan? What is the end game? Because certainly
we know you know, he said prior to the Iraq
War that if we got rid of Saddam Hussein that
peace would flood the Middle East, and that is not
what has taken place. In fact, it destabilized the region
(55:20):
to a certain to such an extent that you know,
over a million Iraqi civilians, right, thousands of Americans both
killed and then injured, you know, tens of thousands of
injured injuries. And then not to mention the the financial
cost of the GATS what eight trillion dollars? So is
(55:42):
that are we able? First tell me show me the
intelligence right, then tell me what the plan is, right,
and then tell me how much it's going to cost
and how it's going to affect the American population, because
right now I'm still having to deal with mid night
phone calls, uh, you know, telling me, oh, guess what
(56:04):
so and so just killed himself yesterday. And I'm still
making phone calls to friends, their their their wives who
around and say and checking into how's your kid doing nowadays?
So I'm still doing that. And this is the result
of of of what we got into for twenty years now.
(56:26):
I thought what would be interesting to kind of close
this out was to do a little research right on
on our ore. What was essentially what were the flaws
behind our last getting engaged in Iraq? And and what
was the precipice which that which why they Rumsfeld and
(56:48):
and and Cheney and Bush, how they sent Colin Powell.
We bring that that that visual up while I read this, Yes,
and then when I talked about the key source, bring
him up. All right. So I'm gonna read something that
Groc produced for me, and I want you to just
listen carefully, and then i'll finish. All right, here we go.
(57:11):
The intelligence flaws behind Colin Powell's two thousand and three
UN speech claiming Iraq had weapons of mass destruction stemmed
from a mix of faulty sources, analytical missteps, and political pressure.
Let me break it down. The primary intelligence came from
the US agencies like the CIA and the DIA, with
(57:34):
input from British MI six and other allies. A key
source was in Quotation Curveball, an Iraqi defector who claimed
Iraq had mobile bio weapons labs. His vivid accounts, relayed
through German intelligence, were central to Powell's presentation, complete with
(57:55):
the diagrams. But Curveball was unreliable and hand rollers warned
he might be fabricating, and he had no direct evidence.
The CIA never interviewed him, yet his claims were treated
as fact, inflated by analysts eager to confirm suspicions. Another
flaw was over reliance on outdated unverified data. Satellite imagery
(58:20):
and intercepts were interpreted as proof of WMD cap activity,
along with aluminum tubes supposedly for nuclear centerfuges. Experts later
showed that these tubes were likely for conventional rockets, but
dissenting voices in the intelligence community, like those from the
Department of Energy were sidelined SIGAN signals. Intelligence also proved
(58:45):
ambiguous with intercepted Iraqi communications misinterpreted as WNDMD cover ups
when they often reflected routine operations. Human sources beyond Curveball
were very thin. Exiled groups like ira I Racking National Congress,
led by Ahmad Chalabi, fed unverified tips from defectors, often
(59:06):
with agendas to topple Saddam Hussein. These were taken seriously
despite known credibility issues, as they aligned with the Bush
administration goals. Political pressure wrapped the process warped. The political
pressure warped the process. Senior officials, including Cheney and Rumsfeld,
learned that the CIA leaned sorry leaned on the CIA
(59:29):
to produce intelligence supporting warp. The Office of Special Plans,
set up by Runsfeld deputy Paul Wolfowitz, cherry picked raw
data to build a case bypassing standard vetting. A two
thousand and four Senate Intelligence Committee report later slammed this
as groupthink, noting analysts overstated weak evidence to please policymakers. Finally,
(59:52):
the UK's Dodgy Dossier, a similar Allied inputs reinforced US errors,
creating a feedback loop of badg intel. Powell spent days
at CIA headquarters vetting his speech, but even he was
fed a script built off these shaky pillars. He later
call it a blot on his record, as post war
(01:00:12):
inspections found no WMD stockpiles. The flaws originated a toxic
mix dubious sources, rushed analysis, suppressed dissidents, and a White
House driven ideological certainty post nine to eleven. Okay, now,
(01:00:33):
I don't know about you, Jordi, but that track record
is pretty poor. And I have three four young daughters,
one getting ready to go off to college, who will
be over eighteen here soon and will be up to
be recruited to go to war should this thing explode
(01:00:54):
into a greater kinetic fight. The track record for doubt
is significant, and that is cause enough to be able
to question whether or not America should engauge at a
higher level. That's just common sense. But also common sense
(01:01:15):
is to recognize that when you have strategic partners with people,
it's also critical do adhere to those partnerships because if
you don't and when you need them at times, they're
not going to be there. So I guess what we're
gonna do, Jordie, is we're going to stand by to
stand by. All right, Thank you so much everybody. I
(01:01:38):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
It might, it might, but you know what, three hours
just gets us more memes, so you know.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
And God knows we need and God knows we need
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.