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June 20, 2025 36 mins

In Hour 1 of the Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay hosts solo while Buck remains on the French Riviera. Clay announces his upcoming broadcast from Traverse City, Michigan, where the show has gained a new affiliate. He introduces several key topics of discussion for the hour, including the 50th anniversary of the movie "Jaws," which Clay argues is the most influential movie ever made because of how it affects people's thinking every time they enter water.

Clay discusses recent political shifts regarding transgender issues, noting that many moderate voters are drawing a line when it comes to children and women's sports. He references a New York Times front page article about top Democratic contenders avoiding criticism of a recent Supreme Court decision on the matter.

The host also addresses Bob Iger, Disney CEO, and his women's soccer team "Angel City" rebranding as "Immigrant City FC." Clay criticizes this as a calculated pivot in language that conflates legal immigrants with illegal immigrants, arguing that the move is designed to make legal immigrants feel threatened when ICE only targets those illegally in the country.

Throughout Hour 1, Clay takes calls from listeners debating his "Jaws" theory, with one caller arguing that "The Exorcist" had a more profound psychological impact. Clay also briefly mentions the ongoing situation in Israel, where citizens are facing continuous missile attacks from Iran, with over 30 missiles daily for a week.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you are hanging out with us. Had
headed into the weekend for a fabulous weekend. Buck I
believe is still on the French Riviera. I don't know
when he officially flies back, but this morning I was
doing prep for the show, and I was reading about

(00:22):
all the super fancy parties that he has been attending
and all of the flagrant excess advertising universe that has
been engaged in can for the past week. So I
can't wait to hear what he is going to have
to say about life on the French Riviera when he
returns to the radio with me on Monday. But I've

(00:43):
enjoyed hanging out with all of you throughout the course
of this week. We will be back together again on
the Monday edition of the program, and I'll actually be
up in Michigan. We've got a brand new, awesome affiliate
in the northern Michigan area, Traverse City and part I
know that a lot of you are listening in that area,
and I'll be broadcasting from Traverse City, Michigan, which is

(01:06):
one of my favorite places in the United States in
the summer absolutely fantastic up there, So look forward to
seeing some of you running around in the Michigan area.
My wife of course from Michigan. So we're gonna be
up there with some friends and family, and I'll be
doing the program with all of you there, and look
forward to meeting a new affiliate in Traverse City and
many of you that may be getting used to listening

(01:28):
to us there. All right, we're gonna have some fun.
It is the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws, the release of
the movie Jaws nineteen seventy five. That movie came out,
I would suggest to you, and we're gonna dive into
this later, but you guys can already start to lose
your minds or say, you know what, Clay, You're actually brilliant.

(01:48):
This one hundred percent truth. I think Jaws is the
most influential movie that has ever been made in the
history of film. And when I say that, I don't
mean that it's the best. I don't mean that it
had changed the conversation on politics, or that it led
to freedom, or it led to any massive societal change.

(02:12):
When I say the most influential, I mean that there
is almost no one that has ever watched that movie
that has not thought about Jaws at a minimum when
you go to the beach, and I bet there are
a lot of you who, even when you have been
jumping in lakes, and even maybe when you've been in

(02:34):
swimming pools after watching Jaws, actually thought, oh, man, I
hope there's not a great white shark that is going
to eat me during the course of this swim fresh
water lakes, not even big lakes, like lakes where you
can see the boundary. I remember after watching Jaws, when
I was a little kid swimming in a pool at night.

(02:55):
I was like, Oh, there there may be a shark
in here. And it wasn't in Florida, by the way,
where I was like, oh, there may be an alligator
in here. So we'll have some fun with that fiftieth
anniversary Friday edition. At a minimum in the third hour,
no guest scheduled. You guys have been killing it on
the talkbacks, so we will have a bunch of fun
with those as well.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
All that headed this direction.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
But I saw this morning as I was doing my
prep what fell.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
And by the way, we'll update you to.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
The extent that there's any movement at all on the
absolute latest as it pertains to what's going on with
Iran in Israel. So far, it does not appear there
have been massive changes since we talked to you yesterday
and shared the news that Trump had said there's a
two week window and we'll see how that's going to
shake out. Okay, So let me dive into something that
I thought was significant as I was doing my pre

(03:47):
reading prep today. We have talked about the big Supreme
Court decision that came down on Wednesday that said the
state of Tennessee has the right to keep young minor
children from having so called gender altering surgeries, however you
want to classify it. That is, potentially your genitals could
be chopped off because you happen to think you're a

(04:10):
boy or a girl, or vice versa, which is different
than the body that you were actually. In front page
story from the primary, I would still say Democrat mouthpiece
in media. The New York Times headline, Democrats' wary response
to transgender ruling shows the party's retreat. That's the headline

(04:33):
today's front page New York Times. While some in the
party denounced the Supreme Court's decision, other top leaders remained quiet.
Underscoring the party's discomfort on the issue. Another way of
talking about this would be that Democrats have been proven
wrong on this and I just thought this entire article

(04:55):
was very interesting. Leading Democrats opening sentence offered a slow
so trickle of critical reaction on Wednesday to the Supreme
Court's decision upholding a state van on some transgender care
for youth.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Hours after the ruling arrived, some top Democrats like Chuck
Schumer had statements. But you know, Chuck Schumer is never
going to run for president of the United States. He
represents the Senate Democrat coalition, and so that didn't really
surprise me. But here is the third paragraph. Many others,
including key players in the twenty twenty eight shadow primary race,

(05:34):
had yet to weigh in. Gavin Newsom, at least at
the time that this was written.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania nothing. Wes Moore of Maryland nothing.
Asked for comment. Representatives for all three governors said they
were not issuing any statements on the decision for now.
This is what victory looks like. They also reached out

(06:04):
to the to Mayor Pete to other people, and by
and large this was again to a great degree ignored,
and at the front page article again in the New
York Times points to and I've been thinking about this
ad quite a lot because I've got a new book

(06:25):
coming out. It's called Ball's ba Lls about how Trump
won men and sports fans and how we all saved
the nation in twenty twenty four. Very understated as you
in case you're wondering, also has two big pictures of
basketballs on the cover. You guys are gonna love it.
There's gonna be a lot of people that lose their
mind over it. It's going to be out in November,

(06:47):
and the book basically argues that young men, sports fans,
and Trump saved America in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And one of the.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Parts of the book is this front page article, Kamala
is for they them, President Trump is for you. I
would submit to you that that might be the single
most effective political ad that any presidential candidate has run
in my life. I know there's been a lot of them,

(07:20):
but the data reflects that that ad that Kamala is
for they them, President Trump is for you.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Because I've been doing research on it for the book
moved in the favorable direction towards Trump two point seven points.
It worked well for moms, white moms, It worked well
for black and Hispanic men. Those were groups that were
particularly impacted by that ad, which I think speaks to

(07:49):
the scope of disgust that has settled in now. Men
competing in women's sports is a part of it. But
I would argue the far more significant component to this is, Hey,
if your son is fifteen and thinks he's a girl,
we should chop his penis off. I mean, that is
Democrat orthodoxy right now, but they are getting rejected nationwide.

(08:14):
Front page credit to the Supreme Court, but front page
news in the New York Times pointing out that Democrats
are now running from this issue. And the other thing
that I thought signed in here was there is a
new poll out from Coefficient talking about who are the

(08:35):
favorites for Democrat presidential nomination in twenty twenty eight. I
just mentioned some of them to you there. Kamala Harris
twenty six percent, support, Gavin Newsom twenty one percent, support
AOC fourteen percent, support Mayor Pete eleven percent, Walls ten percent,

(08:57):
Josh Shapiro three percent. That's the top six. I would
submit to you that the top five here. You can
clip this, you can save it. You can call me
a moron if I'm wrong. On early November of twenty
twenty eight, Kamala Harris, Gavin new Some AOC mayor, Pete,
and Tim Walls, they have a zero percent chance of

(09:19):
being elected President of the United States.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
They may be the nominee.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'm not saying that that's impossible, but I think Kamala Harris,
Gavin k new Some, AOC mayor, Pete, and Tim Walls
have a zero percent chance. Now, Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania.
Problem he has, unfortunately for him, is he's Jewish, and
a large contingent of the Democrat base doesn't like Jewish people.

(09:43):
That's going to be voting in the primary. That's why
I think he wasn't the nominee as vice president, so
that's an issue for him. I think Wes Moore is
going to run. Wes Moore, I think has been making
some solidly strategic moves, very popular Maryland governor, not a
crazy person. I know he's been reaching out to President
Trump frequently and they actually have a decent relationship. I

(10:06):
think Trump would tell you that. And Wes Moore has
a military athletes background. He's not a pussy willow like
a lot of Democrats, and frankly, a lot of people
don't know him. Uh, And so I think that helps.
But I don't think anybody with a major public profile
that is a Democrat right now can get elected in

(10:29):
twenty twenty eight because they've all gone over the woke
waterfall and they've embraced such crazy what I would say
is fundamentally rejected by most reasonable American positions. And that was,
you know, the Kamalas for them, Trump's for you. Ad
really built off the idea that Kamala Harris said that

(10:50):
illegal immigrants should get transsurgeries paid for by taxpayers.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
She supported that.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
And I think that Democrats have had to support so
many ridiculous stories and just flagrantly ridiculous positions that I
think a lot of currently elected Democrats have a zero
percent chance of being able to be elected nationwide.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
JB.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Pritzker, Illinois governor, no chance. Gretchen Whitmercy, he's kind of
got a Cruella de Ville look about her. I think
it's unlikely. I think she would expose herself on the
national stage. I also don't think that Democrats are going
to nominate a woman because of what's happened to Hillary
and Kamala, and I think they recognize that that is

(11:34):
probably not a good direction to go. But I think
the bigger issue they have is they're wrong on all
the issues. So they need someone who is either not
a politician, they need their own version of Trump, somebody
who comes out of the woodwork. Look out for George Clooney.
I think he's a moron. Some of you may have
seen us going back and forth, but Mark Cuban, I'm
going to talk about this a little bit. Evidently, Kamala

(11:57):
Harris strongly considered him to be her vice presidential running mate.
But I do think that there's going to be a
lot of rich guys that make the decision. Hey, on
the Democrat side, I could be the Democrat version of Trump.
I could be a disruptor. I could sort of scatter
the ridiculousness and absurdity, shatter once and for all the

(12:20):
woke universe. I think you're going to see a lot
of people making that move. And I was thinking about
it as you are seeing right now. Democrats scurry from
positions that would have been party orthodoxy just a couple
of years ago. I think they've recognized that the trans
thing has gone too far. I think most people I'm

(12:42):
talking about middle of the road voters will say, Okay,
you know, if you're a grown man or a grown
woman and you want to dress up and pretend that
you're a different gender because it makes you happier. Okay,
if you're a grown man or grown woman and you
want to have surgery to try in some way alter
your appearance so you appear to not be the gender.

(13:04):
I think that's increasingly getting harder to defend. I think
just based on the health related risk, but I think
most people are saying, okay, but you come for children.
That's a line that we are not going to allow
to be touched. And I also think the men and
women's sports crystallizes that at some point the logical limits

(13:26):
of inclusion are reached, and when you go too far,
you begin to exclude people in the name of inclusion.
That is, when you're saying, hey, this man deserves to
be able to compete in women's sports, you're knocking women
out of being able to compete in women's sports.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So you want to be inclusive.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think them talking about middle of the road voters
that are open but not to the point of exclusion,
and I think that's where we are. And I thought
that was interesting Front page New York Times. Many of
the top contenders for the Democrat nomine nation are not
criticizing that Supreme Court decision. We'll talk more about that.
We'll have some fun as we roll through the Friday
edition of the program. In the meantime, summer officially arriving today.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
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Speaker 1 (15:26):
Welcome back in Clay Travis bock Sexton Show. I don't
know how many of you saw this. I was talking
about people who can come from outside of the existing
universe and potentially run as Democrats, and how they're running
from what just a couple of years ago is Democrat
party orthodoxy. Bob Eiger is the CEO of Disney to

(15:47):
a large extent, he has destroyed the brand of Disney
with many different parents out there, including a lot of you.
I'm a tee off on this a bit coming back.
He bought a national women's Soccer League team teams called
Angel City I believe they're based in Los Angeles, and
the team has now rebranded itself this is real as

(16:13):
Immigrant City FC. This that they paid a ton of
money for this Angel City AFC women's soccer team and
in Los Angeles. Now they have decided. The team released
an Instagram video and they call themselves Immigrant City FC.

(16:37):
So they are trying we'll play this audio, but it
says we're proud to introduce Immigrant City FC. Created to
honor the people who made this city and the club
what it is. They've also made ten thousand T shirts
that say Immigrant City FC on the front and Los
Angeles is for Everyone on the Now we're going to

(17:02):
talk about this a little bit more because you're starting
to see a pivot here. Notice how they are trying
to claim that immigrants are being picked up by ice
and not the truth, which is illegal immigrants are being
picked up by ice. They are trying to take the
word immigrant and make people who are here in the

(17:24):
country legally think that they are in some way in danger.
It's a very calculated pivot when it comes to language.
We'll play you some of that audio when we come back,
but I think Bob Iger fancies himself as a potential
presidential contender. The problem is he's made hundreds of millions
of dollars, maybe even a billion dollars by now destroying

(17:46):
the brand of the company that Walt Disney built. And
I think it's actually representative of how wokeness can destroy
things that culturally used to connect us all.

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I have posted the fiftieth anniversary of the release of Jaws.

(19:07):
I believe it's the the most influential movie ever made.
Some of you on talkback can have some fun with this.
I think I don't even think there's a strong argument
for another movie. I'm not saying it's the best movie,
mind you. I'm not saying it's the most impactful movie
in terms of Oh, this changed the geopolitical universe forever,

(19:28):
this person got a elected president, or this political issue
changed forever based on this. Just most influential in that
more people have thought about the movie Jaws while going swimming.
Probably Psycho is up there as well. For a certain

(19:48):
generation of you, when you were taking showers after the
Murdercyne spoiler alert in Psycho, you might have done showers
with your shower curtain open you could watch, or you
might have put on and locked eight doors before you
went and got your took your shower, but I would
suban Psycho's probably up there. But I'm curious if you

(20:12):
guys can come up with anything else that is even
close to Jaws in that. I bet a huge majority
of you who are out there listening right now you
have when you got in a lake, when you got
in a river, not even the ocean, certainly the ocean.
When you got in a swimming pool, after you saw
that movie, you thought about getting eaten by a shark.

(20:34):
So anyway, talkbacks will have some fun. We'll take some
calls on that coming forward. I was talking about the
front page of the New York Times and the individuals
out there that are trying to set themselves up to
be able to run for president and Bob Iger, who

(20:55):
I believe has in many ways destroyed the brand of Disney.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And I think you can use one just really easy example.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
And we talked a little bit about this on the
program when it happened, but Snow White when it came out,
I believe team looked this up if you would, in
nineteen thirty nine. I think it was at that time
the most lucrative movie ever made. The original Snow White

(21:26):
Cartoon made billions of dollars adjusted for inflation when it
came out. It was an absolute iconic classic, and really
it funded the existence of Disney today. Walt Disney had
to mortgage his own home to make that film because

(21:48):
the actual cartoon making of the film was so cost prohibitive,
so timely. It was an incredible accomplishment, and if you
go back and study and read about it, it really
is a fascinating creative story. And Disney put mortgaged his home,

(22:09):
put his entire financial future on the line. That movie
made the money that it did and launched the Walt
Disney Company into the entertainment goliath Leviathan it is today. Okay,
so they've decided they're going to remake all these movies, right.
They remade Aladdin, they remade The Little Mermaid, they remade

(22:30):
Lion King. They have done all these different very popular
Disney movies live action. When they when I say remake,
I don't mean that they've remade them animated wise, they
just made a live action version of those films, and
almost all of them have been very profitable. It's not
necessarily the most creative thing Disney could have done, but
it's low risk, high reward. Those movies have made hundreds

(22:51):
of millions of dollars. They remade Snow White. Bob Eiger decided, Hey,
we're going to remake the film that essentially made Disney
what it is.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
We're gonna make it eighty eight years later or whatever.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
The math was came out this year, and when they
remade it, it was such a bomb that Snow White
has now gone that window from being the most lucrative
money making film of all time for Disney to the
biggest loss leader for Disney of all time. And it's

(23:28):
because they went super woke. They put in a snow
White who basically hates most of you and most of
your politics. They got in controversies over what they should
do with the dwarves. They decided to see Gi animate them.
They wanted to make a girl boss version of snow White,

(23:48):
and it fell completely flat. The princess era of Disney
is still very very popular. That is, if you have
a daughter or granddaughter. They have done a really good
job marketing all of the princesses throughout all of the
movies and turning it into a huge story as it

(24:09):
pertains to the to the overall landscape of Disney. They've
done really well with them. Snow White is still very
very popular and that story is still very popular. So
they lost hundreds of millions of dollars on the new
snow White remake after making a billion dollars from it.
And it's all under the leadership of Bob Iger. And

(24:32):
now they have decided he's also destroyed to a large
extent that the the ESPN brand because Disney owns ESPN.
Now they have decided Bob Iger's soccer team should be
rebranded from Angel City to Immigrant City. I can't believe it,

(24:53):
Like this is absolutely bonkers and insane. Snow White details
from our Team came out in nineteen thirty seven, I
was a couple of years off, went into general release
on February fourth, nineteen thirty eight. Adjusted for inflation, it

(25:13):
made two point three billion dollars. One of the greatest
films in the history of all time and the most
successful animated film to this day of all time. So
it made money that would allow Disney to exist today.
They remake it, they lose hundreds of millions of dollars,

(25:34):
and I think it's because of the leadership of people
like Bob iger leadership is in quotation marks Bob Iger
has led Disney for a decade or more. Stock price
is lower today than it was a decade ago. That is,
if you had bought Disney back in twenty fourteen and
you had sayd hey, man, I just I believe in Disney.

(25:56):
I just want to hold this stock. I'm going to
give it to my kids and my grandkids. This is
a uniquely American iconic brand. There's no way we're going
to lose money on this. You would have lost money
if you had just held that stock. It's nothing to
do with inflation, which would have cost you to lose
even more. Even if you reinvested the dividends, you would
have lost money. And I think it's because of the

(26:16):
awful leadership of Bob Iger and now, not content with
destroying the Disney brand, he's going to try to rename
his women's soccer team as Immigrant City. Let me just
tell you this. I even think this is a.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Miscalculation by Bob Iger.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
The most of the people who cheer for women's soccer,
and I know that a lot of you out there
are in this universe have daughters who play women's soccer.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Girl soccer.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's probably the most popular sport for girls in America today.
Most of them are not left wing partisans. Those of you,
a ton of you that are listening to me right now,
have daughters or granddaughters on travel soccer teams. I don't
even think this is smart for the base of the

(27:12):
LA women's soccer team.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I don't even think.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I don't think that there's a ton of moms out there,
even in the LA area that are like, hey, you know,
I wasn't sure if I was going to go watch
a women's soccer game, but now because they've decided that
they're rebranding as immigrants. But there's nothing wrong with immigration,
legal immigration, if you're legally here as an immigrant. I

(27:37):
mean a ton of you are listening to us right now,
more power to you. All Trump is focused on is
illegal immigration. So this is all kind of crazy as
you break it down and you look at the decisions
that are being made. I talked about how Democrats are
running from the trans issue. They ran from border security.

(28:02):
I think as more of this polling comes out, they're
going to increasingly run from the idea that the Democrat
Party brand was I'm gonna fly down to El Salvador
and have a meeting with an alleged human trafficker who
we have decided represents the face of the Democrat Party.
I think all of that is going to be headed

(28:26):
in a direction that is going to be quite quite
troubling for them. But I think Bob Iger is representative
of I'm paraphrasing here because I can't say it because
of FCC violations. But when Trump said everything woke goes
to crap, he was right. And I do think this
decision that Bob Iger has made as the CEO of

(28:49):
Disney is just another great, colossal miscalculation. Now you can say, oh, well, Clay,
you're talking about it, so it's great branding. I don't
think so. I think most of you had no concern
whatsoever for a women's soccer team, and I just don't
buy that they are in some way going to be
adding some massive amount of new fans by embracing far

(29:12):
left wing politics, which, by the way, is also suggesting
that actually enforcing our immigration laws is a bad policy
and is trying to confuse people about the difference between
immigrants and illegal immigrants. Pay attention to this. It's like
the talking points have gone out, and they're now referring
to immigration. Oh, ICE is trying to deport immigrants. Oh,

(29:37):
you or I are in danger? Well, are you illegally here?
If you are, then yes, you could be in danger
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legally here. You have nothing to worry about at all.
They're trying to confuse people and scare them because the
data is coming back and the Trump raids to deport illegals,
often violent criminals, are actually very very popular. We'll talk

(29:59):
about this. Will take some of your calls as we
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Speaker 1 (31:28):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Friday edition
of the program. Appreciate all of you rolling through the
program with us. We're gonna get some amazing talkbacks. I
think after my argument The Jaws is the most influential
movie ever made and Again, some of you are gonna
argue with me and say the Godfathers are much better.
I'm not talking about the best movie ever made. I'm

(31:51):
talking about the most influential in that it impacted everyone
who watched it. I would argue that you left that
MOVI and you have thought about it for years since
there's a lot of movies that are better movies, what
way more incredibly made films, But this is just the

(32:15):
most influential movie ever Chris and Orlando Gig disagrees.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
He's got another argument. What you got for me, Chris.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Clay, Jaws is number two because every time I went
in the ocean, I thought about Jaws.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
After seeing The Exorcist. Every time I walked in a room,
I thought about the Exorcist.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Every time you walked in a room, you thought about
the who were you hanging out with?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
You expected a kid's head to turn around, expect.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I was just in Georgetown for a large the last
couple of weeks, I was staying in Georgetown while we
were living in DC while my son was doing an internship.
And the Exorcist stars are there, and there is no
doubt that Exorcist is one of the most influential horror
movie of all time. But there's no way that it

(33:03):
remotely compares to Jaws. George in Tallahassee, you were fifteen,
you were growing up near the beach there in Tallahassee.
What was the reaction in nineteen seventy five when that
movie came out? As you remember.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
It as I remember it, It changed the behavior of
the entire country, not just us in Florida. Here I
lived on the beach during the summers. People literally did
not get in the water. They refused to get in
the water. It was the most drastic thing I've seen
as far as films go. And to this day, nothing

(33:39):
has influenced people's behaviors like Jaws did way way back then.
And it literally people would not go into water. And
I've never seen anything like that since then.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know what I think that is? I think it's
one hundred percent right.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
And I am going to be down at the beach
for July fourth and I will go in and I
will think to myself, that shot that again, this is
the fiftieth anniversary, I am I correct? Is NBC showing
the movie tonight?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Will you look this up? I mean, I think it's
free on actual free television. I would I mentioned. I
think I mentioned on the air that I was that
I was out having a drink with a friend. Uh
and uh and his daughter was there too. They were
she was twenty one and she's in college, and you know.
The dad was like, hey, Clay, you know he does
radio and uh. And she was like, well, how how

(34:33):
would I get your show? But I was like, well,
there's a thing on the dash.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It was just very funny, like it's called the radio.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Uh and and she was like, but on my phone
and and I do think it's kind of funny. A
lot of people don't even know that NBC is free.
I mentioned to my kids the other day in antenna
and they were like what it was like, well, you
know there's an antenna, Like you can just put an
antenna on top of your your uh. And they were
like it does have how does the wires work? Like

(35:02):
how does it work with them? I was like, no, no, no,
over air television. It's free like Game seven of the
NBA Finals on ABC. You don't have to pay anything,
no way, you just.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Have to get the end.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
They're like, what is an antenna? Like a what a radio?
Like a radio does what like? How does it work
on my phone? How does it like I've got an iPad?
Where would it be inside of the Anyway, there's this
thing called television. It's free, I believe. On NBC tonight
as part of the fiftieth anniversary, they are showing Jaws,

(35:32):
and that shot because Steven Spielberg, who was making this movie,
had to be inventive because the Jaws, like the animatronic
Jaws that they created, Nobody tested it in saltwater. This
is evidently true, and it would malfunction and not work
very well. For all the shots. Movie cost way more

(35:54):
than it was supposed to. Everybody was panicked. And so
that shot of the Jaws perspective, that is the great
Whites perspective as the opening scene as you see like
the girl out skinny dipping I think with her boyfriend
or whatever, and the movie's released and she's swimming at
night and you see from underneath her perspective, like her legs.

(36:19):
That was a function my understanding of the fact that
for the first half the movie they couldn't get the
shots done that they needed to. And so you heard
that iconic soundtrack, but you did not actually see the
fish the jaws until near the end.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
A lot of you want to weigh in.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
By the way talkback function eight hundred and two two
eight a two, you can weigh in on a variety
of topics.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
We come back. I've got some audio for you. I've
got a theory.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Barack Obama is panicking because he's realized that Donald Trump
is actually the most iconic president of the twenty first century.

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