June 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a deep dive into the latest political developments, headlined by President Donald Trump’s impactful appearance at the NATO summit. The hosts analyze Trump’s firm stance on defense spending and his diplomatic engagement with European allies, including a notably cordial meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. This segment underscores Trump’s leadership on the world stage and his continued influence in shaping U.S. foreign policy. The conversation then shifts to a seismic political event in New York City: the Democratic primary victory of New York State Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani. Clay and Buck break down Mamdani’s far-left platform, which includes abolishing the NYPD, eliminating prisons, banning guns, decriminalizing all drug possession, and replacing private grocery stores with government-run alternatives. They describe his policy proposals as radical and economically unsound, warning of the potential consequences for New York City’s economy, public safety, and quality of life. The hosts explore the demographic and ideological divides that defined the primary. Mamdani’s support came largely from white, college-educated liberals under 40, particularly in trendy neighborhoods like Williamsburg and downtown Manhattan. In contrast, Black and Latino voters, along with older and more moderate Democrats, largely backed former Governor Andrew Cuomo. Despite Cuomo’s financial and institutional advantages, Mamdani’s grassroots campaign prevailed, signaling a dramatic shift in the Democratic Party’s urban base. Clay and Buck argue that this outcome reflects a broader crisis within the Democratic Party, which they say is doubling down on identity politics and socialist rhetoric rather than moderating after electoral setbacks. They warn that cities like New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles are suffering under progressive leadership, with rising crime, economic mismanagement, and deteriorating public services. The hosts also discuss the economic implications of Mamdani’s proposed rent freeze and tax hikes, comparing New York’s bloated budget to more fiscally responsible states like Florida and Tennessee. They highlight the ongoing exodus of high earners and businesses from New York, driven by high taxes and anti-capitalist policies. In a moment of sharp critique, they mock Mamdani’s claim that he would attempt to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu if he visited New York City, questioning both the legality and seriousness of such a statement. They also explore the slim possibility of a coalition forming around a more moderate candidate—such as current Mayor Eric Adams—to block Mamdani in the general election. The hour concludes with listener calls, including a powerful warning from a former Albanian citizen about the dangers of socialism and a humorous take on Mamdani’s law enforcement proposals. The hosts preview upcoming segments on Iran’s nuclear program and President Trump’s NATO diplomacy, promising more analysis in Hour 2.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. We got some big stuff to
dive into. Trump was at NATO talking to our European
allies about the Collective Security Agreement, the North Atlantic Treaty organization,
funding their military obligations across the Pond, and some very
(00:30):
interesting exchanges there with Trump and some of the other
national leaders who are in attendance. We will discuss also
reports out from the media that to my eye seem
like it's clear they are rooting for this to be true,
that the Iran nuclear facility strikes were not as effective
(00:52):
as initially hoped or thought, and that Iran will be
able to rebuild in just months time. I don't buy it.
I'm not seeing it, and we should discuss why it
is that so quickly the media is trying to run
with this story based on an anonymous leak and a
(01:13):
leak that is identified as coming from the Defense Intelligence Agency.
So we will discuss that. We will dive into all
of that, but I do think we're gonna have to
spend some time first here mister clay On, what the
heck just happened to New York City everybody, And I
understand for a lot of you, you're gonna be saying
(01:35):
New York gets what it deserves. This is for, But
you got to remember, we got wonderful listeners, including my
own family, who are great conservatives Trump supporters, who live
in New York and the New York area. They're trying
to keep the walls from collapsing and the whole building
from falling apart. There. You know, they're trying to do
what they can. And this is a moment though, where
(01:59):
I have to say a lot of us, especially anyone
who's lived in New York for a long period of time,
our New York team for the show lives, some of
them even live in the city, certainly in the New
York area, and play this guy, Mom Dannie has won
the Democrat primary for the government New York and if
you live els where the country may be saying, well,
(02:20):
this is New York's problem, it's not my problem. Well,
let's just take a step. Let's just put this in
a context. First, the Democrat Party is in the worst
position it's been in in my lifetime. I don't think
the Democrats have been weaker, looked, more feckless, and just
completely ineffective than they do right now. There is no messaging,
they got nothing, really, But there are a lot of
Democrats out there still, and the question is which way
(02:44):
will they go as a party. Will they try to
become less insane or are they just going to get
even more left wing? In New York, you have a
Bernie Sanders, AOC style socialist candidate who has now likely
put himself as the next mayor of New York. Now,
(03:05):
there are some hopes that this will not happen. The
hopes are not great. Even if they were to happen.
We will get into this, but Clay, let's just get
your top line reaction here. I mean, I've got the
numbers in front of me, forty three percent, and I
know that only twenty five percent of voters in New
York even showed up to vote for this, which is abominable.
I don't know how anyone can explain that one to me. Right,
(03:28):
you've got seventy five percent of registered voters in the
city don't vote for the mayor. Who's going to be
the mayor matters a lot more to people in New
York in many ways than the President does. I think
they need a little refresher on us in recent history here,
but Clay, forty three percent of those who cast ballots
went for this Mam Donnie Guy. Cuomo defeated in this
one pretty substantially, and now people are wondering, what the
(03:53):
heck happens if this actually if this guy becomes the
next mayor of New York.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So, first of all, I was wrong. I thought that
Andrew Cuomo would win this race. He had all the money,
he had all the support. I'm not saying that I
thought Andrew Cuomo was some spectacular candidate, but I think
this is a political earthquake for the Democrat Party because
we've been waiting for basically six months, seven months, whatever
(04:20):
the math is, since we had the election. Trump has
won every all fifty states, essentially move further to the right.
And our debate, as you just said, Buck, was how
will Democrats respond to defeat? Will they decide, hey, we
need to recognize that America has overwhelmingly rejected the message
(04:42):
that we pushed for twenty twenty four, or will they decide, hey, well, America,
we just didn't get our message out well enough, let's
double triple quadruple down on left wing identity politics, crazy
town talk, and for at least this Democrat primary in
New York City, they quadrupled down on crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And I mean, let me just give you a few
of the things.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Bill Malugen collected this, and I want to make sure
that I get all of these rights. So I'm pulling
it up on my phone right now. This is what
New York City just elected. What this guy ran on
is so far left wing it's crazy. He has said
that he wants to abolish the New York Police Department
(05:28):
replace them with social workers. He has said that he
wants to buck abolish prisons, abolish medical bills, ban all guns,
provide end cash bail, decriminalize all drug possession in sentencing enhancements,
and all cooperation with ICE. Also has said that he
(05:52):
believes Benjamin Netanyahoo, if he comes to New York City,
should be arrested for war crimes, and has also advocated
for city grocery stores to replace the existing grocery stores
because he says food is too expensive and the government
should be in charge of providing it on a more
affordable basis. These are absolutely crazy town perspectives and positions,
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and he won an overwhelming relative to expectation Democrat Party
victory buck despite the fact that he did not have
anywhere near the dollars, the money, the organization, or the
prime sort of business side support that Andrew Cuomo did.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now there's also the rent freeze. Did we mentioned the
rent free I didn't even mention the rent freeze? And
he also wants to freeze all rent He thinks that
somehow you will freeze the rents in New York City,
but you're gonna raise taxes. Is that going to affect
people like builders and developers. You're gonna raise taxes on companies,
You're gonna raise taxes on high earners. You're going to
freeze the rent, but you're gonna increase housing supply two
(07:00):
hundred thousand units in New York City. This guy would
not be able to pass the first pop quiz of
an econ one oh one high school level class. This
guy knows not a damn thing. Uh Now, before we
can talk about the policies and what may happen here,
what may not happen when they when they're implemented, But
(07:23):
Clay first stops who is responsible for this. This was
very interesting. You know, I know the city by city
I'm sorry, the neighborhood by neighborhood, street by street demographics
of New York City pretty well. You know generally who
lives in this area, generally who lives in that area.
And there's good data on this that you can see.
(07:43):
There are maps up, I mean even on the front
of the of the New York Times, for example, they
have a map up and when you look at it,
what you see is it is now there's we're talking
about the most diversity in America and millions and millions
of people. But in the broadest strokes, mom ace up
the sleeve. In this election, white liberals under forty Yeah,
(08:09):
white liberals under forty a lot of whom are college educated,
a lot of whom in New York City live in.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Cool areas where.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Their parents are paying summer all of their rent while
they have creative jobs that don't really pay them very
much money. I mean, that's that's the stereotype. But it's
a pretty accurate one when you look at the data
on this of who were the main mom Donnie supporters,
Black and Latino voters in New York City disproportionately or
overwhelmingly went for Andrew Cuomo. They looked at this and
(08:44):
they were like, all right, I don't want the crazy
guy who's saying the crazy things. I want somebody who
is going to try to, you know, continue the system
pretty much as it is. So I think far more
wisdom in that position, under the circumstances than certainly what
you're seeing for people who live in Williamsburg, Downtown, Manhattan,
(09:05):
Brooklyn Heights, I know how you know, you see the
real strongholds, and then some of the very very diverse
areas of Queens Clay that have a really large Asian population,
South and East Asian populations. Mom Donnie did very well there.
I mean, Matt Wall shared out this stat I didn't
even know this. I knew it was high, but credit
(09:27):
to him for showing everybody that forty percent of New
Yorkers were born in another country. Forty percent of New
Yorkers were not born in America. That is astonishing.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Look here is this is why it's such a big
I mean, I think this is a monumental story. And
I thought Cuomo would win. I thought there was no
way they would let Mam Donnie win to.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Be looking at this first.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
When I saw all these results coming in, I was betting,
Buck that you are super glad you got out of
New York City when you did. And I think there
are a lot of people out there listening to us
right now. Bill Ackman actually responded to my post last
night as these election results came in. And I say
this as someone who lives in Tennessee. I know you
(10:14):
now live in Florida, Buck, I know a lot of
you were monster audience in Texas.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
If you have wealth, that is you are paying you.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Know, fourteen fifteen percent tax already in New York, New
York City, New York area, and you have the flexibility
to be able to leave, why in the world would
you stay in New York.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I mean, I just look at this and I jobs
and family.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I mean, at the times I said a question, have
the flexibility to write.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
But this is what I mean. It's I Clay, I
think that I'm one of them. The Florida, Texas Tennessee migration.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
No state in Bill. It's just the simple math, like
I would, I would be out.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, but again, people are tied there because they have,
you know, they have to take care of their mom
they got grandparents, they want to be near their kids,
or they got a job that they won't won't let
them move and they like their job, and you know
it's moving is not as easy for everybody as they'd
like it to be. It depends on what period of
life you're in. But the highly mobile high earners, and
(11:16):
I mean, like I said, fourteen billion dollars or something
like that of revenue has gone to Florida that would
have gone to New York post COVID, just based on
off of the tax changes.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It doesn't take many super rich guys to decide that
they're going to leave New York City, where the budget
falls even more apart. And you know this is what
ends up happening. You end up cycling constantly because as
your wealth leaves the city, you have to raise the
rates on the remaining people, and eventually the math doesn't
(11:47):
add up to provide services. And we've talked about this before.
Florida has roughly a similar population to New York City.
Florida has half the state budget and it's much more efficient.
Kids are better educated, schools are newer, nicer, the facilities
are better, The government runs more efficiently. Same thing Tennessee
is a fraction of the size of a state like
(12:09):
New York. But I'm just telling you, if you have
the ability to leave, I would leave. I understand the hey,
like we're going to fight to make New York City
better and all of these things. If you have the
ability to leave, why would you stay with people who
hate you, that are driving the city into the dumpster?
And when you can go somewhere and save money, Like,
(12:29):
it's crazy to.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Me, my old what I've been saying on the show
about how Florida has half the state budget of the
state of New York. I remember, New York City is
the overwhelming driver of the state budget for New York.
But Florida has a one hundred and fifteen billion dollar budget
for the upcoming fiscal year one hundred and fifteen billion.
(12:52):
New York has a two hundred and fifty four billion. Yeah,
so more than double, more than double. You look at
that and you go, it's double plus an extra twenty billion.
Just throw it in, you know, because why not? It
is madness and what are you getting for this? And
what is the But I think, unfortunately, Clay, there's there's
(13:14):
also the fact that New York City has has now
so many illegals, the fact that New York has brought in, uh,
so many people from around the world who let's just
be honest or more. You know, you look at a
lot of other countries. People want the government to pay
for their stuff. People want socialism. It's popular for a reason.
It always fails, and it's always a lie, but it
(13:34):
appeals to people. And so when people bring their politics
from elsewhere in the world to New York, this is
what you're gonna have. So we'll talk about some of
these policies and some of what's going on here. And
to some of our New York listeners wondering, you know,
are you just digging in and uh, you're gonna hope?
Well wait, you know what, Clay, there is hope. I'll
put this out there. There are other options than mom, Donnie,
(13:55):
but they're long shots. But we will talk. Let's talk
about some of these other options here.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
There's great We'll get people some hope. That's what you
want to do. You want to give people, You give
them little hope.
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Speaker 1 (15:34):
Let's go ahead and play. There is some positivity.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
We'll get into this maybe on the backside, about how
the actual election. This was just the Democrat primary and
Andrew Cuomo, who was wrong about everything on COVID. If
you want one positive thing, he spent tens of millions
of dollars more and got beaten by a thirty three
year old socialist so bad that he had to concede
on election night. Here is Andrew Cuomo saying, tonight was
(15:59):
assembly Man mom Donnie's night.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Cut one.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Tonight was not our night. Tonight was Assemblyman Mandani's night.
And he put together a great campaign, and he touched
young people and inspired them and moved them and got
them to come out and vote. And he really ran
(16:23):
a highly impactful campaign. I called him, I congratulated him,
I implored, I ipplawed him sincerely for his effort. And
let's give him a round of applause and.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Thank him for his campaign.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
All right, So the question buck is Quoto ran as
an independent. We'll talk about this in a sec but
I did want to play this for everybody out there
who is Jewish. Mom Donnie said, if Net no the weather,
he has the authority to do.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
This is different.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But he's saying, if he had the opportunity and he
is mayor, he will try to arrest Net and Yahoo
if he comes to New York.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
City to visit. This is cut five.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
As mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin Attaniyah who
this is a city that our values are in line
with international law. It's time that our actions are also, even.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Though the US is not a signature of the ICC.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
No, it's time that we actually step up and make
clear what we are willing to do to showcase the
leadership that is sorely missing in the federal administration.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
On what jurisdiction, Under what jurisdiction would he even I mean,
I know he's a moron and doesn't even think about
these things. By the way, this is a guy who's
truly an ignoramus. I mean, he has no record of
accomplishment's knowledge or ability and anything other than saying the
kind of things that college kids say when they want
to seem cool among their left wing professors. And friends
(17:46):
that anybody who knows how the world works rolls the
rise and says you're a jack.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yes, that's what he does. That's one hundred percent truth.
He has no clue about anything. We'll talk about it,
whether there's any hope still from New York City, and
what it means for the larger Democrat Party. Just in
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Speaker 2 (19:02):
We talked about the mayor's race in New York, the
Democrat primary, Mom Donnie, the communist lunatic one. We're going
to dive into Iran stuff here momentarily, and also look
at Trump at NATO, which very much gets into the
Russia discussion. He talked about his meeting with Zelenski. Couldn't
(19:23):
have been nicer, couldn't have been nicer, he said, So,
I guess that's going in a good direction, but at
least the relationship between those two guys. So I think
we had mentioned. Is there a possibility of a non
Mom Downie mayoral tea in New York? And the only
way I think it could happen, Clay, is if there's
(19:44):
a consolidation around a candidate who is not the Democrat
primary winner or not the winner of that primary. So
that would be neither Curtis lee Weather Republican. I think
we've had Curtis on the show before. He would do
great things for New York. I mean, you're way better
than he's running up hill on this thing. On Ice
Skates is just it's a you know, eight to one
(20:07):
Democrat or Republican situation in New York. So and if
the people who are willing to vote for mamdani Uh,
they're going to vote for him again obviously over anybody else.
So that's not going to change. And then you have
the possibility, Clay of Eric Adams getting a second life
as a mayor of New York on another term. Here
(20:28):
would be a second term mayor if there's a movement
for the Cuomo voters, the SLIWA Republican voters to all
just say, you know what, Adams is not good, but
he's not horrible. We'll keep this guy. That would be,
under the circumstances, a pretty good, insane outcome for the
(20:49):
City of New York.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Look, I think the only way that Mom Donnie can
be challenged is if everybody else basically says, all of
our voters have to go together, even if they're coming
from different points on the political spectrum, to keep him
from winning. I'm not sure it would work if everybody
got behind Derek Adams, but I think that's what it
(21:12):
would require, because otherwise you have multiple different independents, you
have different subsets where everybody is coming from different perspectives,
and those little subsets get their percentage support and mom
Donnie wins and let me know, I was reading this
to buckoff Air. I do think the crazy town nature
(21:33):
of what he has said sometimes gets overlooked. Here he
is attacking Cuomo. When Cuomo refuses to tax the rich,
he's refusing to let workers enjoy the wealth they created.
When he says low taxes foster a business friendly environment,
he means an environment where it's easy for bosses to
(21:55):
steal from workers. Taxation isn't theft capitalism is? I mean,
for those of you out there that are listening to
us in South Florida, you have got a situation suddenly
where you have a New York City mayor who would
agree with a lot of the policies put in place
(22:16):
by Venezuela or Cuba. Cuba has grocery stores. Those grocery
stores do not work very well, bucked. They are not
staples of the Cuban nine. No, yes, and so anybody
who has actually lived through socialism to see America's biggest city.
By the way, it's not just New York. Chicago's got
a mayor with six percent approval. Brandon Johnson. LA has
(22:40):
got a mayor who can't put out fires and can't
stop riots in karen Bass. Our three largest cities have
never had in my lifetime and probably any almost any
lifetime anybody out there as ineffective leadership for all of
their citizens as now, and they're all crazy left wing Democrats.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And yet they want more. That's the part of it
that I think is a surprise to a lot of people.
There was real fatigue in New York after the Dinkins
administration with ineptitude just being bad at the job, and
the crime in the city, and the graffiti everywhere, and
the vagrants and the assaults and the murders and all
the things that were going on. Crazy numbers. People said
(23:22):
enough as enough. Giuliani came in and he had a
real mandate, mandate to clean things up, and he did so.
The problem you see in a lot of these democrat cities,
democrat run cities, is that things get bad and then
they really just run. The playbook of real communism has
never been tried. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
This is the old.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Sal joke about about how people look at any communist country.
It's always ends in misery. Collapse, despair. It's a nightmare.
But somehow people maybe they call themselves socialists, but they
rise using the same playbook, the same promises, and the
thing is, well, this time we'll get it right. This
time we'll get it right.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Is one of the most dangerous beliefs in the.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
World, unfortunately, because you won't. And that's what happens in
these places.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And again, I mean, I feel like the people who
need government to be effective the most, that's people who
can't move, people who don't have the flexibility to decide, Hey,
I'm going to move to Florida.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I'm going to move to Tennessee. I'm gonna move to Texas.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
They're the ones that are going to suffer the most
under this, unfortunately, which is why to your point, they're
the ones who were voting against this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I think that again working off the stereotypes of New
York New Yorkers, different New Yorkers, but I know them
very well, right, I wouldn't do this in Houston. I
can't speak to like what the different factions are. I
can speak to the different factions and the different demographic
realities in New York City with particular expertise. Okay, and
you have a lot of and you see this, this
(24:51):
is from the data. This isn't just but I'm interpreting
the data as to the realities of New York. You
have people who are black and Hispanic, and particularly Hispanic
from you know, sort of from the Caribbean area. We
have large, you know, large Caribbean Hispanic population, so Dominicans
for example, there they were Cuomo, they were Cuomo. You
(25:15):
look in parts of Brooklyn that are overwhelmingly black, Cuomo
because they want somebody who is gonna know that like
makes the system run as it is. But also because
a lot there's a lot of state dependency. There's a
lot of uh nischa Housing, which is the city authority
that does the projects. I think we're not supposed to
(25:37):
call them that anymore, and we're supposed to call them
but NYC h AA whatever. The acronym is subsidized housing,
subs thank you, thank you, sub subsidized housing, Thank you, Clay.
But there's a lot and people want that, they want
these things to be administered not by a lunatic. But
also on the crime issue, if this guy, Mom Donnie
gets as remember the police commissioner is picked by the
(25:58):
mayor and to the mayor. The NYPD is responsible for
implementing the mayor's policies. And only also add in here
Alvin Bragg just got re elected as a Democrat for
District Attorney, and he's.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This guy's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But the people who vote for this stuff generally live
in areas where they don't have high crime. They think
it's some they watch you know, WPIX eleven or something
and they see, oh, somebody got stabbed in the South Bronx.
You know, not my problem. Mommy and daddy are paying
my rent in Williamsburg or in RedHook or whatever, or
if they live in a part of Queen that's heavily immigrant.
(26:37):
Because there were large Asian populations that went for Mamdani.
Those are generally low crime parts of the city, high
immigrant parts of the city, and they want more government
services and they want the you know, they want that
socialism promise I I. You can see it playing on
the data. By the way, Upper East and Upper Upper
East and Upper west Side went for Cuoma.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, it's interesting because your friend you were talking, we
were talking about her yesterday, Tish, who is basically running
Jessica Tish family.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That's their billionaires they own like the giants, And.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
She's actually done a pretty good job under Eric Adams
of helping to get crime a little bit corralled in
the city. But to your point, Buck, the people who
understand basic economics and are Democrats, old school Democrats, they
voted for Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The people who are young.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And to a large extent still having their rent paid
by mommy and daddy have decided that capitalism is a
joke and it doesn't really work and it doesn't really
impact their life, and oh, we need to have a
socialist extravaganza in New York City. And producer Alley just
pointed out that's actually somewhat consistent for them, because when
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mommy and daddy fund your lifestyle in the big city,
you are basically living off somebody else is wealth and
are es in a way that you would never be
able to afford to do on your own. And so
they overwhelmingly broke And look, this is a young white coalition. Yes,
there are a lot of foreign voters, foreign citizens that
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are are.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Foreign born, were born in New York City.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, but they weren't really driving mom, Donnie. Remember it
is white women without kids are basically driving every decision
made by the Democrat Party. Now, white women without kids,
these are the people that the Democrat Party exists to
serve overwhelmingly.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That is their base.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, the government's supposed to be their husband. This is
the problem. Government's supposed to step in and do all
these things that in the traditional family structure provide for
protect guide, you know, all these things. No, No, the government's
there to do that in the ideology of the unmarried
white liberal female. So it's not good. This does not
(29:02):
end well for any But the problem that we have
here is they haven't suffered enough. And that's a shame.
But it's true in New York, it's true in San Francisco,
it's true in Chicago. These are places where people haven't
suffered enough. Here are enough people haven't suffered enough that
they're willing to finally say I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Here's the scary thing on this buck. They are the
brains so broken that they lack the ability to understand
the circumstances that surround them are a result of their choice.
And so they continue to look at Trump as sort
of the great Satan. And the brand of the Democrat
Party is the antagonist brand to Trump and so they
(29:39):
don't connect the awful choices they're making politically with their
life circumstances being worse.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's a little bit scary.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I know you're a big Sex and the City fan, Clay,
so you might have seen that Cynthia Nixon, who played
one of the main four characters, was And this is
somebody who I think actually she had political aspirations at
one point or she did she run for mayor or something.
I think, yeah, she ran, I forget she ran from there,
(30:07):
but she is. She's an imbecile and and a left wing,
a left wing loon. And and she she said that
she wanted Mom Donnie because she wanted someone who will
stand up to Trump. It's like, if that is your
frame of reference, stand up to Trump the mayor of
New York. You want somebody who's overseeing the cops, firefighters, sanitation,
(30:28):
school system and brings investment into the city. That's what
you actually want. You want it to function. Well, it
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who the president is if
you're living in New York City in your day to
day certainly not the way. It matters who the mayor is.
And it's just crazy to see we'll take calls on.
They've got New Yorker's lighting us up here, so let's
(30:50):
let's see what they have to say.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Cynthia Nixon ran for governor two thousand and eight. That's
for the state, remember it films party? Yeah, Oh, I
mean the fact that she was on Sex in the City.
Aren't they doing a new version of Sex and the
City right now? An updated Sex and the City. I'll
take your word for it there. Out of that, well,
you know, I'm just gonna say, sixty year old Cynthia Nixon.
(31:14):
I don't think there are a lot of people like, hey,
I want the Sex in the City story of her,
you know. Yeah, And she also has a trans kid
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
What do you see when you see New York City
potentially electing Mom Donnie, thank.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
You for taking my call to begin with, and I
really appreciate it. But everything that I left behind in
each ten Europe thirty six years ago is coming to
Unata states. And that is called socialism, which is an
evil ideology. It's all of it command and control promises
that can be delivered that might I heard one of
you saying that he may not succeed. He's going to succeed.
And the succession is when they when the New York
(34:12):
City collapses under these policies. When you have socialism, it
is about command and control, the promises of forced redistribution,
and that is exactly what he's promised it. And what's
happening here is that you have two reasons for someone
by him potentially becoming the next mayor in New York City.
It is the fact that we are in bordering cultures
(34:34):
into United States who are not compatible to the Republican
form of government. And then we have an educational system
that is always at back in capitalism and brainwashing the
students in the United States and turning them against the
foundation of this country. And that is the result that
we have right now in New York City.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I think it's well sadly agree.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, high five A plus excellently Drew H.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Lou in New York City listening on w o R
c C.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
What you got for us, louis So let me get
this straight, Clay. He's gonna have Netting Yahoo arrested when
he comes to the city by social workers.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You're right, it is funny because he wants to replace
NYPD with social workers.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So you imagine the social worker would be like, excuse me,
mister Netton Yahoo, I would like to place he went
to arrest men. Yaho would like pat him on the head.
You'd be like, that's very that's a very nice idea
for you.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Uh, Brian and Raleigh. This is something he's down in
North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
This is something I hear from a lot of people
like me who are Red state born and bred.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I'm born and raised Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Uh, there's a lot of fear about people like you
Buck coming from New York City. We'll play this when
we come back, actually, because we're gonna run out of time.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
What is the fear these these these red states? You're
getting all the best New Yorkers.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That could possibly leave. Okay, I agree telling you this.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Is crazy, the people who are leaving and the people
you want to live there.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
My kind flipped Miami Dade red Okay, I don't need
to hear any of this nonsense you're preaching.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
There are a lot of people in Tennessee, Texas, all
over the South, in red states that get nervous when
they hear people from New York, Illinois, California are going
to move into their state. There's bumper stickers that are
popular right now in Tennessee that say, don't California, my Tennessee.
Because people are afraid they're gonna bring their politics with them.
I tend to think they're actually the data reflects what
(36:32):
you're saying, making red states redder.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
But we'll play this is a big concern.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
We'll talk about it a little bit, because I do
think there's gonna be more New Yorkers bailing than ever before.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. We got some big stuff to
dive into. Trump was at NATO talking to our European
allies about the Collective Security Agreement, the North Atlantic Treaty organization,
funding their military obligations across the Pond, and some very
(00:30):
interesting exchanges there with Trump and some of the other
national leaders who are in attendance. We will discuss also
reports out from the media that to my eye seem
like it's clear they are rooting for this to be true,
that the Iran nuclear facility strikes were not as effective
(00:52):
as initially hoped or thought, and that Iran will be
able to rebuild in just months time. I don't buy it.
I'm not seeing it, and we should discuss why it
is that so quickly the media is trying to run
with this story based on an anonymous leak and a
(01:13):
leak that is identified as coming from the Defense Intelligence Agency.
So we will discuss that. We will dive into all
of that, but I do think we're gonna have to
spend some time first here mister clay On, what the
heck just happened to New York City everybody, And I
understand for a lot of you, you're gonna be saying
(01:35):
New York gets what it deserves. This is for, But
you got to remember, we got wonderful listeners, including my
own family, who are great conservatives Trump supporters, who live
in New York and the New York area. They're trying
to keep the walls from collapsing and the whole building
from falling apart. There. You know, they're trying to do
what they can. And this is a moment though, where
(01:59):
I have to say a lot of us, especially anyone
who's lived in New York for a long period of time,
our New York team for the show lives, some of
them even live in the city, certainly in the New
York area, and play this guy, Mom Dannie has won
the Democrat primary for the government New York and if
you live els where the country may be saying, well,
(02:20):
this is New York's problem, it's not my problem. Well,
let's just take a step. Let's just put this in
a context. First, the Democrat Party is in the worst
position it's been in in my lifetime. I don't think
the Democrats have been weaker, looked, more feckless, and just
completely ineffective than they do right now. There is no messaging,
they got nothing, really, But there are a lot of
Democrats out there still, and the question is which way
(02:44):
will they go as a party. Will they try to
become less insane or are they just going to get
even more left wing? In New York, you have a
Bernie Sanders, AOC style socialist candidate who has now likely
put himself as the next mayor of New York. Now,
(03:05):
there are some hopes that this will not happen. The
hopes are not great. Even if they were to happen.
We will get into this, but Clay, let's just get
your top line reaction here. I mean, I've got the
numbers in front of me, forty three percent, and I
know that only twenty five percent of voters in New
York even showed up to vote for this, which is abominable.
I don't know how anyone can explain that one to me. Right,
(03:28):
you've got seventy five percent of registered voters in the
city don't vote for the mayor. Who's going to be
the mayor matters a lot more to people in New
York in many ways than the President does. I think
they need a little refresher on us in recent history here,
but Clay, forty three percent of those who cast ballots
went for this Mam Donnie Guy. Cuomo defeated in this
one pretty substantially, and now people are wondering, what the
(03:53):
heck happens if this actually if this guy becomes the
next mayor of New York.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So, first of all, I was wrong. I thought that
Andrew Cuomo would win this race. He had all the money,
he had all the support. I'm not saying that I
thought Andrew Cuomo was some spectacular candidate, but I think
this is a political earthquake for the Democrat Party because
we've been waiting for basically six months, seven months, whatever
(04:20):
the math is, since we had the election. Trump has
won every all fifty states, essentially move further to the right.
And our debate, as you just said, Buck, was how
will Democrats respond to defeat? Will they decide, hey, we
need to recognize that America has overwhelmingly rejected the message
(04:42):
that we pushed for twenty twenty four, or will they decide, hey, well, America,
we just didn't get our message out well enough, let's
double triple quadruple down on left wing identity politics, crazy
town talk, and for at least this Democrat primary in
New York City, they quadrupled down on crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And I mean, let me just give you a few
of the things.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Bill Malugen collected this, and I want to make sure
that I get all of these rights. So I'm pulling
it up on my phone right now. This is what
New York City just elected. What this guy ran on
is so far left wing it's crazy. He has said
that he wants to abolish the New York Police Department
(05:28):
replace them with social workers. He has said that he
wants to buck abolish prisons, abolish medical bills, ban all guns,
provide end cash bail, decriminalize all drug possession in sentencing enhancements,
and all cooperation with ICE. Also has said that he
(05:52):
believes Benjamin Netanyahoo, if he comes to New York City,
should be arrested for war crimes, and has also advocated
for city grocery stores to replace the existing grocery stores
because he says food is too expensive and the government
should be in charge of providing it on a more
affordable basis. These are absolutely crazy town perspectives and positions,
(06:20):
and he won an overwhelming relative to expectation Democrat Party
victory buck despite the fact that he did not have
anywhere near the dollars, the money, the organization, or the
prime sort of business side support that Andrew Cuomo did.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now there's also the rent freeze. Did we mentioned the
rent free I didn't even mention the rent freeze? And
he also wants to freeze all rent He thinks that
somehow you will freeze the rents in New York City,
but you're gonna raise taxes. Is that going to affect
people like builders and developers. You're gonna raise taxes on companies,
You're gonna raise taxes on high earners. You're going to
freeze the rent, but you're gonna increase housing supply two
(07:00):
hundred thousand units in New York City. This guy would
not be able to pass the first pop quiz of
an econ one oh one high school level class. This
guy knows not a damn thing. Uh Now, before we
can talk about the policies and what may happen here,
what may not happen when they when they're implemented, But
(07:23):
Clay first stops who is responsible for this. This was
very interesting. You know, I know the city by city
I'm sorry, the neighborhood by neighborhood, street by street demographics
of New York City pretty well. You know generally who
lives in this area, generally who lives in that area.
And there's good data on this that you can see.
(07:43):
There are maps up, I mean even on the front
of the of the New York Times, for example, they
have a map up and when you look at it,
what you see is it is now there's we're talking
about the most diversity in America and millions and millions
of people. But in the broadest strokes, mom ace up
the sleeve. In this election, white liberals under forty Yeah,
(08:09):
white liberals under forty a lot of whom are college educated,
a lot of whom in New York City live in.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Cool areas where.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Their parents are paying summer all of their rent while
they have creative jobs that don't really pay them very
much money. I mean, that's that's the stereotype. But it's
a pretty accurate one when you look at the data
on this of who were the main mom Donnie supporters,
Black and Latino voters in New York City disproportionately or
overwhelmingly went for Andrew Cuomo. They looked at this and
(08:44):
they were like, all right, I don't want the crazy
guy who's saying the crazy things. I want somebody who
is going to try to, you know, continue the system
pretty much as it is. So I think far more
wisdom in that position, under the circumstances than certainly what
you're seeing for people who live in Williamsburg, Downtown, Manhattan,
(09:05):
Brooklyn Heights, I know how you know, you see the
real strongholds, and then some of the very very diverse
areas of Queens Clay that have a really large Asian population,
South and East Asian populations. Mom Donnie did very well there.
I mean, Matt Wall shared out this stat I didn't
even know this. I knew it was high, but credit
(09:27):
to him for showing everybody that forty percent of New
Yorkers were born in another country. Forty percent of New
Yorkers were not born in America. That is astonishing.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Look here is this is why it's such a big
I mean, I think this is a monumental story. And
I thought Cuomo would win. I thought there was no
way they would let Mam Donnie win to.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Be looking at this first.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
When I saw all these results coming in, I was betting,
Buck that you are super glad you got out of
New York City when you did. And I think there
are a lot of people out there listening to us
right now. Bill Ackman actually responded to my post last
night as these election results came in. And I say
this as someone who lives in Tennessee. I know you
(10:14):
now live in Florida, Buck, I know a lot of
you were monster audience in Texas.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
If you have wealth, that is you are paying you.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Know, fourteen fifteen percent tax already in New York, New
York City, New York area, and you have the flexibility
to be able to leave, why in the world would
you stay in New York.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I mean, I just look at this and I jobs
and family.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I mean, at the times I said a question, have
the flexibility to write.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
But this is what I mean. It's I Clay, I
think that I'm one of them. The Florida, Texas Tennessee migration.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
No state in Bill. It's just the simple math, like
I would, I would be out.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, but again, people are tied there because they have,
you know, they have to take care of their mom
they got grandparents, they want to be near their kids,
or they got a job that they won't won't let
them move and they like their job, and you know
it's moving is not as easy for everybody as they'd
like it to be. It depends on what period of
life you're in. But the highly mobile high earners, and
(11:16):
I mean, like I said, fourteen billion dollars or something
like that of revenue has gone to Florida that would
have gone to New York post COVID, just based on
off of the tax changes.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It doesn't take many super rich guys to decide that
they're going to leave New York City, where the budget
falls even more apart. And you know this is what
ends up happening. You end up cycling constantly because as
your wealth leaves the city, you have to raise the
rates on the remaining people, and eventually the math doesn't
(11:47):
add up to provide services. And we've talked about this before.
Florida has roughly a similar population to New York City.
Florida has half the state budget and it's much more efficient.
Kids are better educated, schools are newer, nicer, the facilities
are better, The government runs more efficiently. Same thing Tennessee
is a fraction of the size of a state like
(12:09):
New York. But I'm just telling you, if you have
the ability to leave, I would leave. I understand the hey,
like we're going to fight to make New York City
better and all of these things. If you have the
ability to leave, why would you stay with people who
hate you, that are driving the city into the dumpster?
And when you can go somewhere and save money, Like,
(12:29):
it's crazy to.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Me, my old what I've been saying on the show
about how Florida has half the state budget of the
state of New York. I remember, New York City is
the overwhelming driver of the state budget for New York.
But Florida has a one hundred and fifteen billion dollar budget
for the upcoming fiscal year one hundred and fifteen billion.
(12:52):
New York has a two hundred and fifty four billion. Yeah,
so more than double, more than double. You look at
that and you go, it's double plus an extra twenty billion.
Just throw it in, you know, because why not? It
is madness and what are you getting for this? And
what is the But I think, unfortunately, Clay, there's there's
(13:14):
also the fact that New York City has has now
so many illegals, the fact that New York has brought in, uh,
so many people from around the world who let's just
be honest or more. You know, you look at a
lot of other countries. People want the government to pay
for their stuff. People want socialism. It's popular for a reason.
It always fails, and it's always a lie, but it
(13:34):
appeals to people. And so when people bring their politics
from elsewhere in the world to New York, this is
what you're gonna have. So we'll talk about some of
these policies and some of what's going on here. And
to some of our New York listeners wondering, you know,
are you just digging in and uh, you're gonna hope?
Well wait, you know what, Clay, there is hope. I'll
put this out there. There are other options than mom, Donnie,
(13:55):
but they're long shots. But we will talk. Let's talk
about some of these other options here.
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There's great We'll get people some hope. That's what you
want to do. You want to give people, You give
them little hope.
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Speaker 1 (15:34):
Let's go ahead and play. There is some positivity.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
We'll get into this maybe on the backside, about how
the actual election. This was just the Democrat primary and
Andrew Cuomo, who was wrong about everything on COVID. If
you want one positive thing, he spent tens of millions
of dollars more and got beaten by a thirty three
year old socialist so bad that he had to concede
on election night. Here is Andrew Cuomo saying, tonight was
(15:59):
assembly Man mom Donnie's night.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Cut one.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Tonight was not our night. Tonight was Assemblyman Mandani's night.
And he put together a great campaign, and he touched
young people and inspired them and moved them and got
them to come out and vote. And he really ran
(16:23):
a highly impactful campaign. I called him, I congratulated him,
I implored, I ipplawed him sincerely for his effort. And
let's give him a round of applause and.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Thank him for his campaign.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
All right, So the question buck is Quoto ran as
an independent. We'll talk about this in a sec but
I did want to play this for everybody out there
who is Jewish. Mom Donnie said, if Net no the weather,
he has the authority to do.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
This is different.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But he's saying, if he had the opportunity and he
is mayor, he will try to arrest Net and Yahoo
if he comes to New York.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
City to visit. This is cut five.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
As mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin Attaniyah who
this is a city that our values are in line
with international law. It's time that our actions are also, even.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Though the US is not a signature of the ICC.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
No, it's time that we actually step up and make
clear what we are willing to do to showcase the
leadership that is sorely missing in the federal administration.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
On what jurisdiction, Under what jurisdiction would he even I mean,
I know he's a moron and doesn't even think about
these things. By the way, this is a guy who's
truly an ignoramus. I mean, he has no record of
accomplishment's knowledge or ability and anything other than saying the
kind of things that college kids say when they want
to seem cool among their left wing professors. And friends
(17:46):
that anybody who knows how the world works rolls the
rise and says you're a jack.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yes, that's what he does. That's one hundred percent truth.
He has no clue about anything. We'll talk about it,
whether there's any hope still from New York City, and
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Speaker 2 (19:02):
We talked about the mayor's race in New York, the
Democrat primary, Mom Donnie, the communist lunatic one. We're going
to dive into Iran stuff here momentarily, and also look
at Trump at NATO, which very much gets into the
Russia discussion. He talked about his meeting with Zelenski. Couldn't
(19:23):
have been nicer, couldn't have been nicer, he said, So,
I guess that's going in a good direction, but at
least the relationship between those two guys. So I think
we had mentioned. Is there a possibility of a non
Mom Downie mayoral tea in New York? And the only
way I think it could happen, Clay, is if there's
(19:44):
a consolidation around a candidate who is not the Democrat
primary winner or not the winner of that primary. So
that would be neither Curtis lee Weather Republican. I think
we've had Curtis on the show before. He would do
great things for New York. I mean, you're way better
than he's running up hill on this thing. On Ice
Skates is just it's a you know, eight to one
(20:07):
Democrat or Republican situation in New York. So and if
the people who are willing to vote for mamdani Uh,
they're going to vote for him again obviously over anybody else.
So that's not going to change. And then you have
the possibility, Clay of Eric Adams getting a second life
as a mayor of New York on another term. Here
(20:28):
would be a second term mayor if there's a movement
for the Cuomo voters, the SLIWA Republican voters to all
just say, you know what, Adams is not good, but
he's not horrible. We'll keep this guy. That would be,
under the circumstances, a pretty good, insane outcome for the
(20:49):
City of New York.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Look, I think the only way that Mom Donnie can
be challenged is if everybody else basically says, all of
our voters have to go together, even if they're coming
from different points on the political spectrum, to keep him
from winning. I'm not sure it would work if everybody
got behind Derek Adams, but I think that's what it
(21:12):
would require, because otherwise you have multiple different independents, you
have different subsets where everybody is coming from different perspectives,
and those little subsets get their percentage support and mom
Donnie wins and let me know, I was reading this
to buckoff Air. I do think the crazy town nature
(21:33):
of what he has said sometimes gets overlooked. Here he
is attacking Cuomo. When Cuomo refuses to tax the rich,
he's refusing to let workers enjoy the wealth they created.
When he says low taxes foster a business friendly environment,
he means an environment where it's easy for bosses to
(21:55):
steal from workers. Taxation isn't theft capitalism is? I mean,
for those of you out there that are listening to
us in South Florida, you have got a situation suddenly
where you have a New York City mayor who would
agree with a lot of the policies put in place
(22:16):
by Venezuela or Cuba. Cuba has grocery stores. Those grocery
stores do not work very well, bucked. They are not
staples of the Cuban nine. No, yes, and so anybody
who has actually lived through socialism to see America's biggest city.
By the way, it's not just New York. Chicago's got
a mayor with six percent approval. Brandon Johnson. LA has
(22:40):
got a mayor who can't put out fires and can't
stop riots in karen Bass. Our three largest cities have
never had in my lifetime and probably any almost any
lifetime anybody out there as ineffective leadership for all of
their citizens as now, and they're all crazy left wing Democrats.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And yet they want more. That's the part of it
that I think is a surprise to a lot of people.
There was real fatigue in New York after the Dinkins
administration with ineptitude just being bad at the job, and
the crime in the city, and the graffiti everywhere, and
the vagrants and the assaults and the murders and all
the things that were going on. Crazy numbers. People said
(23:22):
enough as enough. Giuliani came in and he had a
real mandate, mandate to clean things up, and he did so.
The problem you see in a lot of these democrat cities,
democrat run cities, is that things get bad and then
they really just run. The playbook of real communism has
never been tried. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
This is the old.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Sal joke about about how people look at any communist country.
It's always ends in misery. Collapse, despair. It's a nightmare.
But somehow people maybe they call themselves socialists, but they
rise using the same playbook, the same promises, and the
thing is, well, this time we'll get it right. This
time we'll get it right.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Is one of the most dangerous beliefs in the.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
World, unfortunately, because you won't. And that's what happens in
these places.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And again, I mean, I feel like the people who
need government to be effective the most, that's people who
can't move, people who don't have the flexibility to decide, Hey,
I'm going to move to Florida.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I'm going to move to Tennessee. I'm gonna move to Texas.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
They're the ones that are going to suffer the most
under this, unfortunately, which is why to your point, they're
the ones who were voting against this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I think that again working off the stereotypes of New
York New Yorkers, different New Yorkers, but I know them
very well, right, I wouldn't do this in Houston. I
can't speak to like what the different factions are. I
can speak to the different factions and the different demographic
realities in New York City with particular expertise. Okay, and
you have a lot of and you see this, this
(24:51):
is from the data. This isn't just but I'm interpreting
the data as to the realities of New York. You
have people who are black and Hispanic, and particularly Hispanic
from you know, sort of from the Caribbean area. We
have large, you know, large Caribbean Hispanic population, so Dominicans
for example, there they were Cuomo, they were Cuomo. You
(25:15):
look in parts of Brooklyn that are overwhelmingly black, Cuomo
because they want somebody who is gonna know that like
makes the system run as it is. But also because
a lot there's a lot of state dependency. There's a
lot of uh nischa Housing, which is the city authority
that does the projects. I think we're not supposed to
(25:37):
call them that anymore, and we're supposed to call them
but NYC h AA whatever. The acronym is subsidized housing,
subs thank you, thank you, sub subsidized housing, Thank you, Clay.
But there's a lot and people want that, they want
these things to be administered not by a lunatic. But
also on the crime issue, if this guy, Mom Donnie
gets as remember the police commissioner is picked by the
(25:58):
mayor and to the mayor. The NYPD is responsible for
implementing the mayor's policies. And only also add in here
Alvin Bragg just got re elected as a Democrat for
District Attorney, and he's.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This guy's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But the people who vote for this stuff generally live
in areas where they don't have high crime. They think
it's some they watch you know, WPIX eleven or something
and they see, oh, somebody got stabbed in the South Bronx.
You know, not my problem. Mommy and daddy are paying
my rent in Williamsburg or in RedHook or whatever, or
if they live in a part of Queen that's heavily immigrant.
(26:37):
Because there were large Asian populations that went for Mamdani.
Those are generally low crime parts of the city, high
immigrant parts of the city, and they want more government
services and they want the you know, they want that
socialism promise I I. You can see it playing on
the data. By the way, Upper East and Upper Upper
East and Upper west Side went for Cuoma.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, it's interesting because your friend you were talking, we
were talking about her yesterday, Tish, who is basically running
Jessica Tish family.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That's their billionaires they own like the giants, And.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
She's actually done a pretty good job under Eric Adams
of helping to get crime a little bit corralled in
the city. But to your point, Buck, the people who
understand basic economics and are Democrats, old school Democrats, they
voted for Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The people who are young.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And to a large extent still having their rent paid
by mommy and daddy have decided that capitalism is a
joke and it doesn't really work and it doesn't really
impact their life, and oh, we need to have a
socialist extravaganza in New York City. And producer Alley just
pointed out that's actually somewhat consistent for them, because when
(27:53):
mommy and daddy fund your lifestyle in the big city,
you are basically living off somebody else is wealth and
are es in a way that you would never be
able to afford to do on your own. And so
they overwhelmingly broke And look, this is a young white coalition. Yes,
there are a lot of foreign voters, foreign citizens that
(28:16):
are are.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Foreign born, were born in New York City.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, but they weren't really driving mom, Donnie. Remember it
is white women without kids are basically driving every decision
made by the Democrat Party. Now, white women without kids,
these are the people that the Democrat Party exists to
serve overwhelmingly.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That is their base.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, the government's supposed to be their husband. This is
the problem. Government's supposed to step in and do all
these things that in the traditional family structure provide for
protect guide, you know, all these things. No, No, the government's
there to do that in the ideology of the unmarried
white liberal female. So it's not good. This does not
(29:02):
end well for any But the problem that we have
here is they haven't suffered enough. And that's a shame.
But it's true in New York, it's true in San Francisco,
it's true in Chicago. These are places where people haven't
suffered enough. Here are enough people haven't suffered enough that
they're willing to finally say I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Here's the scary thing on this buck. They are the
brains so broken that they lack the ability to understand
the circumstances that surround them are a result of their choice.
And so they continue to look at Trump as sort
of the great Satan. And the brand of the Democrat
Party is the antagonist brand to Trump and so they
(29:39):
don't connect the awful choices they're making politically with their
life circumstances being worse.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's a little bit scary.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I know you're a big Sex and the City fan, Clay,
so you might have seen that Cynthia Nixon, who played
one of the main four characters, was And this is
somebody who I think actually she had political aspirations at
one point or she did she run for mayor or something.
I think, yeah, she ran, I forget she ran from there,
(30:07):
but she is. She's an imbecile and and a left wing,
a left wing loon. And and she she said that
she wanted Mom Donnie because she wanted someone who will
stand up to Trump. It's like, if that is your
frame of reference, stand up to Trump the mayor of
New York. You want somebody who's overseeing the cops, firefighters, sanitation,
(30:28):
school system and brings investment into the city. That's what
you actually want. You want it to function. Well, it
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who the president is if
you're living in New York City in your day to
day certainly not the way. It matters who the mayor is.
And it's just crazy to see we'll take calls on.
They've got New Yorker's lighting us up here, so let's
(30:50):
let's see what they have to say.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Cynthia Nixon ran for governor two thousand and eight. That's
for the state, remember it films party? Yeah, Oh, I
mean the fact that she was on Sex in the City.
Aren't they doing a new version of Sex and the
City right now? An updated Sex and the City. I'll
take your word for it there. Out of that, well,
you know, I'm just gonna say, sixty year old Cynthia Nixon.
(31:14):
I don't think there are a lot of people like, hey,
I want the Sex in the City story of her,
you know. Yeah, And she also has a trans kid
like what an awful, awful representation of New York City.
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you weighing in. We're going to dive into NATO. The
latest on the Trump Iran strikes at the top of
the next hour. All that still to come. But many
of you out there interacting. Dell on the VIP says,
my grandfather used to say, there's no such thing as
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(33:33):
or later, you're going to pay, and pay dearly. And
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
What do you see when you see New York City
potentially electing Mom Donnie, thank.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
You for taking my call to begin with, and I
really appreciate it. But everything that I left behind in
each ten Europe thirty six years ago is coming to
Unata states. And that is called socialism, which is an
evil ideology. It's all of it command and control promises
that can be delivered that might I heard one of
you saying that he may not succeed. He's going to succeed.
And the succession is when they when the New York
(34:12):
City collapses under these policies. When you have socialism, it
is about command and control, the promises of forced redistribution,
and that is exactly what he's promised it. And what's
happening here is that you have two reasons for someone
by him potentially becoming the next mayor in New York City.
It is the fact that we are in bordering cultures
(34:34):
into United States who are not compatible to the Republican
form of government. And then we have an educational system
that is always at back in capitalism and brainwashing the
students in the United States and turning them against the
foundation of this country. And that is the result that
we have right now in New York City.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I think it's well sadly agree.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
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Lou in New York City listening on w o R
c C.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
What you got for us, louis So let me get
this straight, Clay. He's gonna have Netting Yahoo arrested when
he comes to the city by social workers.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You're right, it is funny because he wants to replace
NYPD with social workers.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So you imagine the social worker would be like, excuse me,
mister Netton Yahoo, I would like to place he went
to arrest men. Yaho would like pat him on the head.
You'd be like, that's very that's a very nice idea
for you.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Uh, Brian and Raleigh. This is something he's down in
North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
This is something I hear from a lot of people
like me who are Red state born and bred.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I'm born and raised Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Uh, there's a lot of fear about people like you
Buck coming from New York City. We'll play this when
we come back, actually, because we're gonna run out of time.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
What is the fear these these these red states? You're
getting all the best New Yorkers.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That could possibly leave. Okay, I agree telling you this.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Is crazy, the people who are leaving and the people
you want to live there.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
My kind flipped Miami Dade red Okay, I don't need
to hear any of this nonsense you're preaching.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
There are a lot of people in Tennessee, Texas, all
over the South, in red states that get nervous when
they hear people from New York, Illinois, California are going
to move into their state. There's bumper stickers that are
popular right now in Tennessee that say, don't California, my Tennessee.
Because people are afraid they're gonna bring their politics with them.
I tend to think they're actually the data reflects what
(36:32):
you're saying, making red states redder.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
But we'll play this is a big concern.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
We'll talk about it a little bit, because I do
think there's gonna be more New Yorkers bailing than ever before.
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