July 7, 2025 • 66 mins
Tragedy in Texas
The devastating floods in Texas Hill Country that claimed over 80 lives with potentially 100+ casualties. The flooding occurred overnight at a historic church camp, with Clay noting the tragedy immediately became politicized with some blaming Trump voters. The hosts announced that Texas Congressman Chip Roy, who represents the affected Texas region, would join them in the third hour to provide updates on the disaster. A caller from Kerrville shared how the area had been experiencing drought conditions before the sudden devastating rainfall.
Big, Beautiful Law
Highlighting the passage of the “Big Beautiful Bill” signed by former President Donald Trump. The hosts analyze its potential to act as “jet fuel for the economy,” citing upcoming trade deals, the expiration of a tariff pause, and the resilience of the stock market. They challenge the pessimistic forecasts of economic collapse, arguing that growth-focused policy is the key to balancing the budget and restoring fiscal health.
A major segment is devoted to Medicaid reform, with a focus on work requirements for able-bodied recipients. The hosts cite the Oregon Medicaid study, which found no significant health improvements from Medicaid coverage, and question the efficiency of the $600 billion spent annually on the program. They argue for accountability, work incentives, and tax reform, criticizing the 37% federal tax rate and the broader burden on American workers.
Scamming the System
Medicaid reform and a focus on work requirements for able-bodied recipients. The hosts cite the Oregon Medicaid study, which found no significant health improvements from Medicaid coverage, and question the efficiency of the $600 billion spent annually on the program. They argue for accountability, work incentives, and tax reform, criticizing the 37% federal tax rate and the broader burden on American workers.
The hour’s most provocative discussion centers on affirmative action and racial identity in college admissions. Clay and Buck dissect the case of Zohran Mamdani, who falsely claimed to be African-American on his Columbia University application. Despite a solid SAT score of 2140, Mamdani was rejected, raising questions about racial preferences, merit-based admissions, and the “racial spoil system.” The hosts compare this case to those of Elizabeth Warren and Rachel Dolezal, calling for a race-blind admissions process and emphasizing the success of Nigerian-American and Asian-American communities as evidence against systemic racism.
TX Rep. Chip Roy
Interview with Texas Congressman Chip Roy, who represents the affected region and provides firsthand updates on the scale of the disaster. With over 90 lives lost and many still missing, Roy describes the heartbreaking toll on families, particularly those connected to Camp Mystic—a nearly 100-year-old girls’ camp that became the epicenter of the tragedy. He shares stories of heroism, including camp staff and community members who risked or lost their lives to save children, and emphasizes the need for long-term support and volunteer engagement as the region begins a prolonged recovery.
The conversation also explores the limitations of current early warning systems and the need for improved flood preparedness infrastructure. Rep. Roy calls for better technology and coordination while acknowledging the unprecedented nature of the event. He directs listeners to resources and his social media for ways to donate or volunteer, urging continued support in the weeks and months ahead.
Make sure you never miss a second of the show by subscribing to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton show podcast wherever you get your podcasts! ihr.fm/3InlkL8
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We
hope all of you had fabulous July fourth. So I
was down on the first inaugurald July fourth at the
Gulf of America. Had an amazing time. Buck was down
in Miami. We hope that you have gotten back or
are in the process of returning from what may have
(00:23):
been a long holiday weekend. We've got a ton of
news to dive into with all of you. The Big
Beautiful Bill passes as we told you it would. There
was some drama, but Trump signed it on July fourth.
It is now law certainty when it comes to taxes
and beyond. We will discuss much of that, as well
(00:46):
as border security. Mom Donnie gets caught lying about his
race on college applications. He is the Democrat nominee for
mayor in New York City. I do think that is
actually a store glory of some significance. Net and Yahoo
visiting with Trump. We will update you on any of
the fallout there. Puff Daddy, Sean Combs, Diddy, whatever you
(01:09):
want to call him. We told you we were skeptical
of the case. A lot of people were shocked when
he was found not guilty of the most significant of
those charges. We will discuss that quite a lot as well.
But the biggest story I think coming out of the
weekend is the flooding situation which may well kill unfortunately
(01:34):
one hundred people in Texas. And I know many of
you are in that listening area with us right now
in Texas and are listening to us and experienced exactly
what happened over the holiday weekend as a massive amount
of rain fell and the river there swept away and
(01:57):
rose at a level that is frankly completely unheard of
historically occurs. It's one of these things where it happens
five hundred year thousand year floods, and it happened in
the middle of the night, and happened right along a
basically church camp that has been in Texas for nearly
(02:20):
one hundred years, just shy of one hundred years. I
bet that many of you in that area, many of
you who are Texans, may have gone, friends and family
went there. Many young lives lost. It is an awful,
awful story there, and unfortunately it immediately became a political ridiculousness.
(02:43):
People trying to blame President Trump, people trying to blame
Trump voters Republicans, and that happened almost instantaneously. Based on
everything that I have seen and read, and I tried
to familiarize myself to a great degree with this story,
it's just a cavalcade of really unfortunate events, in particular
(03:09):
the fact that many of these alerts which all went out,
were going out in the middle of the night, and
a lot of people were sleeping, and the water rose
so quickly that before people were even aware that they
were in danger, many people found themselves standing in water,
or even having their homes in the places where they
(03:29):
were staying near the river underwater. In a way that
just happened overnight, And so I think there's gonna be
a lot of discussion going forward about how do we
handle some of these situations in the future. I imagine
a lot of you out there experienced it yourself, and
you're listening to us right now. I shared a charity,
I'll retweet it that I've donated to that I would
(03:52):
encourage a lot of you if you want to give
back to this community. But Buck, I think the biggest
unfortunate aspect of this is that it happened in the
middle of the night. Everybody is sleeping. You may be
getting these alerts on your phones. You probably have the
radio turned off. And it just happened so quickly that
(04:14):
it caught people. A lot of people unaware the alerts
were going out. It was just most people were sleeping.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
There are a.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Lot of analyzes already about what could have been done
to have avoided this, And I know there's a lot
of heartbreak for the families, for the communities, and the
girls at this camp, Mystic, which lost already twenty seven
of its girls, its campers, and counselors. I mean, it's
(04:43):
horrible beyond words, and our hearts break for those who
were affected by this. Clay I remember summer camp, I
mean so many of us. It's supposed to be a
time of joy and like a lot of people, some
of their fond perhaps even fondest memories or summer camps
growing up. And to have something like this, a tragedy
like this hit that community, it's just unthinkable. Now we
(05:05):
have immediately what could have been done, and they're still searching.
I know, so they're searching. Rescue efforts are underway, and
there have been some incredibly brave first responder efforts that
have saved a lot of lives in this process. I
mean they are pulling people, have been pulling people out
of trees, off of rooftops. The photos, the imagery of
(05:27):
these floods does bring home pretty quickly to anybody, no
matter where you are across the country, around the world,
just how violent and how extreme these flood waters were.
And also for anyone who's been around or knows about this,
it's more like a wall of kind of mud and silt.
(05:48):
A lot of the time. It's a tremendous amount of
debris in this water. It moves fast, it comes in high,
and there's a lot of stuff in it as well,
so it can be very hard to to maneuver in.
And so it's it's obviously very lethal. I mean they've
had clay. I was reading about previous rescue attempts. I
believe there was a rescue attempt for a previous flood
(06:09):
situation where the where a bus full of people was
swept away. So they were trying to get people away
from it, and the bus itself got swept away. To
give you a sense of how houses disappear. Obviously, the
camp uh, these sort of camp grounds that these girls
were in not able to withstand this, and people are saying, well,
(06:30):
how could the warning have gone out sooner? Or what
could have been done differently? There's siren alarm systems that
are in place in neighboring counties that went off. There
was an effort to get a similar alarm system in
place in the county where Camp Mystic was was located,
and they didn't get the funding for it. Now, would
(06:53):
a an alarm system like that, right, there's alarms that
go off to your phones, there's the warnings, there's all
these different pieces come into play. But having sirens effectively
like an air raid siren situation, would that have changed
this at four am in this county, That's going to
be something that people look at, I think very closely.
(07:14):
But the timing of it could not have been worse
in terms of the casualties that would come from the event,
because people are the most you know, the most likely
to be asleep, the least likely to be communicating with
each other in the area, and also the least able
to handle moving. It's just that the truth is, any
human being you wake them up at four o'clock in
(07:35):
the morning, they're moving more lethargically they're not thinking clearly,
and now you think about little kids at four am,
and it's just a it's a horrific situation, and I
know that it's it's been a heartbreak for Texas and
for the whole country.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, I think what you hit on is something that's
going to be talked about. I turned my phone off
a lot at night, just because I don't want to
be woken up. And I do think that one of
the things that they've tried to do with tornadoes, and
tornadoes come through where I live and have hit my
hometown of Nashville recently in as significant and deadly way.
(08:13):
The tornado sirens are basically impossible to ignore, and we
have situations where people don't get the notifications on their phones.
Is there a flood related siren that can be installed.
I don't know the answer to that, but I think
that's the conversation that's going to happen going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Warning systems always have this.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Look.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm in Florida, the hurricane capital of America, right, and
you have Floridians who you're not going to get them
to move out of where you know. I know people
who have been here now they've obviously been alive for
fifty sixty seventy years. They've been through a lot of hurricanes.
You're not getting them to move no matter what the yeah,
what the warning is, because they've been through. Look, we
(08:55):
just had this in Florida actually recently, where it was
this is the big one. It's gonna hit Tampa. Tampa
is going to be and then sure enough it actually
hit western hit my in laws area, western North Carolina
much harder than it did the Tampa area in terms
of the damage and the casualties from it. So in
this case, Clay, if you have a lot of alarms
(09:16):
going off, a lot of warnings going off in a
place that is used to flooding, what then is the
threshold for Oh, no, we've got to get to high
ground right now, as opposed to the area that we're
in is having another flood right That's where you know
you can sense there's going to be some difficulty here
(09:39):
to figure out how this could be avoided. And then
also people, i think even Congressman Roy, who this is
this a lot of this happened in his district, Chip
Roy saying in an interview it's also a once in
a century event, So it's very hard to prepare appropriately
for what people call in probability analysis a black swan
(10:01):
or a fat tale event. Right, fat tale is a
low probability, very high impact basically something that you don't
think is going to happen, but if it does happen,
it's really bad. Well, that is what the situation is
with these floods. So there'll be analysis of this. And
I don't even think, I don't know how much you
want to even talk about. There are people who have
come out and tried to politicize this right away, and
(10:22):
it's gross, it's pathetic, and it's really just evidence of
a political derangement, you know. I think it's much more
important for everybody to focus on the first respond to efforts,
the sear ongoing search and rescue efforts, and to really
look at this honestly and see what could have been
done to make sure that this won't be done. This
won't happen again in the future, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And I think what you said too, sometimes we actually
over deliver in terms of, hey, there's a flood warning.
There's a flood warning, and sometimes the floods aren't that significant,
but there is a flood warning. But I think, really,
what happened here is it happened in the middle of
the night, and I just think people, you know, most
(11:07):
of history, you wouldn't have had a cell phone to
be getting alerts on If there is a way to
sit around and really contemplate this going forward when they
are able to fully have done all the recovery and
all those efforts. I do wonder whether one of the
things that they added here after the devastating tornadoes we've
had is the sirens. Is there a way to have
(11:30):
sirens along the river that notifies in a serious way
when things like this are happening because people are sleeping.
I mean, I think a lot of people frankly just
got swept away in the middle of the night, never
even knew they were in danger because the waters came
up so fast here.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, so they'll look at this much more closely. The
experts will look at what could have been done here.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But this is.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
True of a lot of natural disasters, which this clearly is.
If it's bad enough, you're talking more about casualty mitigation
than casualty elimination, meaning you're not going to be able
to save everybody you're trying to save as many people
as possible, but when you're looking at almost one hundred
people in this area from flooding, that's just the numbers
(12:15):
just far too there's numbers far too high for anyone
to think that this system was sufficient given the risk factors,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Also, the holiday weekend probably increased the number of people,
sadly that we're camping on alongside of the banks and
the river, as many people were doing to celebrate with
their friends and family. So it really was the worst
possible scenario with timing, with date and everything else associated
with it. But our thoughts and prayers and we're going
(12:43):
to again. I'll retweet what I am told is a
very good charity that is local in the area that
I've supported, And if you're wanting to do something, you
can join this as well. If you want to call
in and share your thoughts on this, if you're living
the area or you know people affected by it. Lines
obviously are open. We know we have our San Antonio
(13:05):
affiliate WOAI, which is a huge signal which does reach
into this area. We have some other signals from smaller
stations that are in the area. So if you're listening
and you want to fill us in on just what
you saw that happen yourself, or what you know from
people firsthand, what you're hearing about the search and rescue
and first responder efforts which are ongoing.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I believe they're still unfortunately expecting clay pretty heavy weather today,
so that complicates matters. But our lines are open and
we definitely want to hear from you. We're all feeling
this one. Let's talk about cyber scammers and how they're
tricking Americans with fake passport application and renewal websites, so
you think you're getting a passport, but instead you're actually
(13:45):
getting your information stolen. Remember there's only one official US
government site for applying for passports. Any other website is
an imposter site that's trying to steal your info. Situations
like these are all over the internet, So it's really
important to understand how cyber and identity theft are affecting
our lives and a risk for all of us, and
that's why you need LifeLock. Lifelock's online identity theft protection
(14:08):
is the single best way to protect your online identity.
They monitor millions of data points a second, the kind
that may indicate your online identity has been stolen. LifeLock
to text and alerts you to potential identity threats you
may not spot on your own, like loans taken out
on your name, and if you do become a victim
of identity theft. A LifeLock member can actually help you
with this. There's a dedicated US based restoration specialist at
(14:31):
LifeLock who will help you fix it guaranteed or your
money back. I've had LifeLock for many years. You should
have LifeLock watching your back too. Join now and say
forty percent off your first year with promo code Buck.
Call one eight hundred LifeLock or head to LifeLock dot
com and use my name Buck as your promo code
for forty percent off terms applied.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim
your sanity with Clay and Bud. Find them on the
Free card radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Just an update here, we are following closely events in
the Hill Country of Texas the west of San Antonio
with these horrible floods that I've taken. Now at least
ninety lives I believe, or close to ninety lives with
the latest count we are following as closer. We're going
to talk to Congressmanship Roy. This is his district that
(15:26):
got hit so badly by the flash floods, and we'll
talk to him about what's going on in the rescue,
search and rescue operations, and also look into could this
have been mitigated. I think prevented is unlikely, but mitigated
meaning less awful than it was under the circumstances. We'll
discuss that with him, and also maybe a little bit
(15:50):
of the people that are politicizing this. It's so beneath
contempt and so just so grotesque that I don't know
how much time we really should spend on it, Clay,
because anybody who says things like, well this is a
maga area. I know there was a doctor who got fired,
I just yeah, it's people. It's awful.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I think in general, when disaster happens, Okay, I'm talking
about the disaster itself, it is almost impossible to argue, hey,
this person is responsible for this disaster, right, I'm talking
about natural disaster. Where it is fair I think to
talk is when the government doesn't respond, When the government
(16:35):
doesn't respond rapidly to take care of people, when FEMA
does a poor job. That's that's a reality, right at
some point that conversation is real.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I think responde.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Hits flood hits and you're like, Oh, this is the
president's fault, or it's a senator's fault, or it's a
voter's fault. I mean, the little girls who were at
that camp. They didn't vote in the twenty twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
There just little girls at summer camp.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And if kids die, and your thought is this is
a political thing, I want to respond to it immediately.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You need to look at your shore. There's something deeply
there's something you did, something broken inside, no question. So anyway,
we're following this close that we've updated you to the
best of our knowledge about what's going on right now
still search and rescue efforts. We can also get to
some more of your calls on the back half of
this hour if you want to talk about things that
were missed or things that we need to know about,
or you just want to share your thoughts as a
(17:28):
member of that community we're taking. We have lines lit
from people that were effectively in the flood areas, so
we want to hear from from you first and foremost
on that I did want to, because we've been off
for a few days, focus on some news stories that
deal with the economy and and what I think we
can expect here going forward. Another another moment of what
(17:50):
we tell you is going to happen generally happens on
this show. We said it about the Seawan Combs verdict,
which is very different than the Big Beautiful Bill situation.
But we said that, and we also said that, I mean,
I was basically ready as soon as the Senate passed
the Clay. I was like, yeah, it's basically a done deal.
And you you correctly said, well, the House and then try, yeah,
I know, I know, but this is not really and
(18:11):
sure enough, yes, the process was, it went back to
the House, they didn't do anything. They passed the thing
as it was. Trump signed it on the Big Beautiful Bill.
So it happened as we thought. And the objections based
on budgetary and spending issues, those did not actually those
did not materialize into anything that got really any attention
(18:33):
before the holiday. So Trump signed it.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now let's get into some of what happens now on
this because I think this is I think there's some
important components of this some aspects of this that deserve
us to drill in on a little bit. First of all,
you know Speaker Johnson saying that it's going to be
jet fuel for the economy. I think we actually said
exactly that here on the show, so you know that's
(18:57):
can't disagree with that. I think it's going to be
credibly powerful. The US is close to a couple of
trade deals that was being reported on last night. Scott
Best in the Treasury Secretary looking at this clay. There
is the tariff pause that Trump put in place that
ends next week. So the negotiating period is coming to
(19:20):
a terminus here, or at least the negotiating period as
set forth the last time around, is coming to a
point here. But the people that have been saying that
this is going to result in disaster the whole time
and it's all going to be skyrocketing prices, they were
wrong before. I think they're gonna be wrong again. And
I think we could get some very big things, big
(19:45):
things done here in terms of trade in the days ahead.
And I think Trump has bought a lot of goodwill
from people out there to finish this negotiation, because so
far the economy has been doing really well, and the
scary enough about the trade negotiations have not come to
fruition at all.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And I think this is another example where expert opinion
that in some way, having tariffs put in place and
negotiating these trade deals, we're going to destroy the United
States economy. I mean, on Wednesday or Thursday, right before
the July fourth holiday, we were at an all time
(20:25):
high in the S and P five hundred stock market
in general, and we're still basically there now today. So look,
is it going to potentially come back a little bit. Yes,
but I think the doom and gloom the world is
going to collapse. Catastrophists have been proven wrong when it
(20:45):
comes to tariff negotiations and what the impact is going
to be going forward.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I just think they're wrong.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And that doesn't mean that there may not be challenges
ahead economically somewhat.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Look to me, we talked a lot about this on
Wednesday or sorry, Tuesday. To me, the pivot now that
the big beautiful Bill has passed is growth.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Growth. Growth.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
The way that we are going to get our financial
house in order now is we have to get the
economy moving at higher than three percent level. Growth is
the best thing that can happen economic growth to start
to bring in way more revenue to start to balance
(21:35):
the budget. That's what's going to have to happen. And
the bill was imperfect, as all bills are. We talked
about this. A lot of people just don't want to
address the reality of government spending and debts. There isn't
the political will to address it. Part of me buck
I think I said this on the show, but part
of me feels like politicians are just going to be
(21:56):
fine with having to cut benefits because the math doesn't
add up, and they're just going to say, hey, the
math is what it is and avoid having to make
any decisions in advance, and then in twenty thirty three
or whatever the year is, they're just going to be
they're going to look at it and say, hey, everybody
gets seventy percent of what was promised because the money
(22:16):
isn't there, and we're sorry, but that's the reality, and
you have to deal with it because otherwise it would
require having real conversations about it, and it doesn't feel
like anybody wants to have a real conversation. We're just
kind of living in this magical era where what the
math shows US is going to happen down the line.
(22:37):
We're not going to acknowledge it until basically we're there.
You know, there are Democrats who are saying this is
going to be what results in disaster in the midterms
for Republicans. First of all, if Trump hadn't if this
hadn't gotten pasted, and this had gotten if this had
fallen apart on the on the shoals, if this had
come apart on the shoals of Congress infighting, that would
(23:00):
be far worse for the Republicans because you'd ask, what
exactly are they doing if they can't do this?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And because they have the votes, as we saw, Republicans
have the votes, they got it through. Trump's very excited
about it. I would note the attacks on it are
along the lines of the cuts to medicaid.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And it's not really cuts, as Scott Beston has pointed out,
it's a decrease in the increase over.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He talked about this. Yeah, they increase, they've allowed. The
idea of a cut is just slowing growth. So it's like, hey,
you're fat, but instead of putting on ten pounds of
extra weight this year, you put on six. Nobody would say, boy,
that's a real cut. You're still getting fatter. You're just
getting fat or slower. Scott Bessant reminded Dana batt oh,
(23:44):
we should do the CNN. Megan Kelly did a breakdown
of the CNNMSNBC ratings.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And it's it's just crazy over there. No one's watching
these channels anymore that we you know, we grew up
certainly with CNN as this brand, global news and all
this stuff, and they's completely falling apart. But anyway, he
went on. Scott Bessent was talking to Dana bash about
the Medicaid work requirement has cut three and listen to
(24:11):
him explain reality a bit.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I think to have them register twice a year for
these benefits, that is not a burden. My impression of
the Republican Party is that historically wanted to cut through
the red tape and not create more red tape. Well, no, no, no,
But we've also wanted to put in work requirements, which
somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton, was popular under
(24:35):
President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew out the deficit
in twenty twenty and they never want to bring it back.
But work requirements even pull well with the median Democratic voter,
maybe not the.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Fringe work requirements play. You have to actually do something
if you're an able body. We're not talking about you know,
mom with kids, We're not talking about disabled people. You
have to be willing to check in and say, hey,
I'm trying to do something productive for society, and therefore
please continue to give me healthcare welfare, which is what
(25:09):
medicaid is. It only requires twenty hours for able body,
mostly men, and twenty hours of work is considered to
be enough, and some of that can be charity work.
So I mean we're talking legitimately about hey, just do something.
There's a huge percentage and I hope that some of
(25:30):
the deportations are going to impact this in a positive way.
There's a huge percentage of men that just don't work.
And I'm not talking about sixty five year old men.
I'm talking about twenty five, thirty five, forty five men
who are in the prime, earning years of what should
be their work life and just don't work, just don't
do anything. And why should they get Why should we
(25:53):
who are out there working give them benefits. I got
fired up over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You know, the big beautiful bill is past, but it
preserves thirty seven percent tax rates. Right, that's the highest
level tax rate. Think about that for a minute. Well,
we've just accepted as reality. That means that if you
are out there paying thirty seven percent tax and I am,
that means I work Monday Tuesday every week just for
(26:19):
the government. Presume that I don't work seven days, which
I basically do, but five days a week Monday to Friday.
If you're paying thirty seven percent, this doesn't even count
state taxes, property taxes, all those other things, just the
federal government. Every day of the week. I work Monday
and Tuesday for the federal government. That's kind of crazy
(26:41):
that we just accept thirty seven percent tax rates. And
a lot of you out there, if you live in California,
or you live in New York, or you live in Illinois,
you're actually paying over half every work week, half of
the time. You basically are an employee of the United
States government or your local tax authority. It's crazy that
(27:02):
we have just accepted this as reality. But that's where
we are.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Medicaid here according to groc which I do find a
very useful and fun tool on the fly to use
Medicaid spending in twenty twenty four was a little over
six hundred billion dollars. Six hundred billion dollars. And remember
that's that's not including Medicare, which is for people sixty
(27:27):
five and up. That is the amount of money that
the country is spending on for people who, for one
reason or another are unable to get insurance or health
care coverage themselves. That is a very large sum of
money that is that is going toward this. I mean,
it's what it's approaching, like the Pentagon budget that we
(27:48):
spend on Medicaid.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
What do you think that actually the big problem we have.
I think there are two major broken parts of America
right now. What is the tax ode completely broken?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Too?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Is healthcare? It's completely broken. Regardless of what your politics are.
That's six hundred billion dollars. You just said, how much
of that do you think actually benefits health? In other words,
if it weren't spent, that there would be a precipitous
decline in overall health there. There was a big study,
the Oregon Study years ago, a study out of Oregon
(28:22):
that showed that the actual health outcomes for people with
Medicaid versus people who are similar socioeconomic status who do
not have access to Medicaid. They could, they could find
no difference. Remember emergency emergency services. Anybody, you walk in
the emergency room, you get.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Treated, although these days you might wait twelve hours in
a hallway because there's a ton of illegals who are
going for frontline care and everything. But put that aside
for a moment, emergency room care, and that's you know,
there's a moral obligation that society has accepted where if
you need medical treatment, you get treated. Okay, fine, But
Medicaid is more the routine that going in for this
(29:01):
check up or that or whatever. How much of that
is waste and how much of that isn't even benefiting
the patients who are going in for I think any
one really knows.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
If you ask me, I think we could cut half
of all medical treatments in America, all of them half,
and I think we would see no impact in quality
of life or length of life.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
In other words, we're just wasting money so much every
single day and getting not great outcomes. And if you
question that, just look at the average lifespan. We spend
way more money in America on health care than any
other country, we don't live the longest.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So this is the Oregon experiment. This is published in
a really radical right wing thing called the New England
Journal of Medicine. Randomized controlled study Medicaid coverage generated no
significant improvements in physical health outcomes in the first two years.
That was a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
No, they can't even say that it makes a healthier
at all in any way.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I mean, I think, just based on data, look at
life spans and correspond them with money spent there is
we are not getting our money's worth if you compare
how long we live to other countries that spend a
fraction on healthcare of what we do. Look value speaking
of Unfortunately, know how every story ends, and you're at
(30:22):
some point going to need to have your estate and probate.
You're going to pass, and you probably have spent a
lot of time thinking about how to take care of
your family in your life. Have you thought about how
to take care of your family after you're gone. That's
the purpose of a will and a trust, to keep
your kids from fighting, your grandkids from fighting, just letting
everybody know what your desires are. You spend so much
(30:45):
time trying to help your family to the best of
your ability. Why not take care of everything up to
and including your passing. Just decide yourself. Now, go to
trust and will dot Com. They'll walk you through everything.
I've got both trusts and wills. It's set up. I'm
ready to go when that day comes. Are you you
(31:06):
take care of your family? Have you helped to take
care of what happens when you pass? Trustinwill dot Com
experts in creating personalized trust and wills that protect your
legacy and your family after you're gone. Trustinwill dot com
do it Today.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you
unite us all each day, spend time with Clay and
buy Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever
you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
The racial spoils system, everybody, let's talk about this for
a little bit, shall we? Racial spoil system. That's actually
how it was referred to an a Supreme Court decision.
I want to say by Aldo at one point, and
as you know, you're not allowed to for college admissions
discriminate on the basis of race anymore. Schools are still
doing it left and right. The Trump administration is going
(31:58):
to have to sue a lot of them, and other
people are going to have to bring a lot of lawsuits.
They're gonna have to feel the financial pain of their racism,
because that's what it is now. Because the same system
that said you're allowed to take people based on their
skin color over other people, or based on their ethnicity,
you know, indigenous persons background, whatever it is for you know,
(32:22):
Native Americans, that same system now says, no, that's actually wrong.
You shouldn't do that, and you're no longer able to
do that. And this brings me to Zoran and Clay
still By. His middle name is Kwame Zorn Quame mam
Dami Mamdani applied in two thousand and nine to Colombia.
(32:44):
New York Times wrote about this. There's a lot going
on here everyone, and he claimed that he was African American.
Now just so we get the facts, let me just
get the facts out black.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
The box that he checked is African American or black?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Well, well, if he's he's hanging his hat so to speak,
I mean, he he's you know, claiming that the African
American part of it is like because he was qualified Africa,
because he was born in Africa. So we're gonna talk
about this in a second, right. So, uh, he says
he's African American and slash black. Now we know that's
that's he's clearly not black. And but his this goes
(33:22):
to a few things. First of all, this guy is
and I don't think he didn't get in right, he
did not get admitted to Columbia. Now there's only two
there's only really one way I think that that's possible
based on because now Chris Rufo, you don't want Rufo
on on your on your tail. You don't want him
coming after you. He has his whole Columbia file. Have
you seen this? No, he has this whole Columbia admissions file.
(33:45):
Somehow Chris Rufo got this, and he has his SAT scores.
He has everything. Chris Rufo has all this stuff. So
here's here's what we have. He got a twenty one
forty out of twenty four hundred. I wish it was
out of the sixteen hundred because I don't know what
twenty one to forty really. I mean, I guess that's
like a seven hundred equivalent. So maybe it's like a
(34:08):
fourteen hundred, which is not a bad score. It's a
good sat score. But for Colombia, if you're white or Asian,
that's probably not gonna cut it, not even close. So
this guy he applied. He applied. The point here is
everyone he did. He pulled in Elizabeth Warren. All right,
let's just let's just get right down to this clay
(34:29):
quam I mean a mom. Sorry, Zoran Kwame Mamdami figured
I'll pretend to be black to get for the purposes
of admission, to get into Columbia University. It didn't work.
I think they figured it out. That's what I was
gonna say before. I think they knew this guy wasn't
really black. Uh. And he's now saying because he was
(34:50):
born in Africa, well under that standard. Elon Musk any
white South African, anyone born in Egypt or North Africa,
I might add, if you're out Algerian, there are many
Algerians plays are as light skinned as you and I are. Okay,
there's a whole ethnic berber b e R B e
R there a lot. Some of them have blue eyes
(35:13):
and light hair and light skin, live in North Africa
and been indigenous to North Africa for like a thousand
years or something. All Right, they've been there a long time.
If you applied as a North African, as an African
American slash black, people would would flip out. If you
were Egyptian. Cairo is a huge city, millions of mons
of people, they would flip out. Mam Donnie tried to
(35:35):
pull the card of oh, I'm kwame, Mam Donnie, the
black guy applying to Columbia. Let me in. The guy's
a fraud. He pulled the Elizabeth Warren and now we
know yes.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And I think also to build on the analogy made
I mean, Charlie's Tarne is from South Africa. Elon Musk
is from South Africa. If Ewon Musk had gotten government
contracts because he had marked African American on applications for
the government contract, if he said I'm a black small
(36:08):
business owner, give me loan preference, people would lose their minds.
And I think what this really kind of brings up
is the reason he did this is because his test
scores were not incredible. According to this article, eighty ninth percentile.
It's good to be top ten percent most things. That's
(36:29):
not good enough to be a white or an Asian
kid and get into Columbia. So he was trying to
pretend that he had black background, because the standard to
be admitted if you are black, that would be good
enough to get in. And here is this racial spoil system.
In general, it just has to vanish. It really does
(36:52):
have to once and for all, give up the ghost,
so to speak. If you want to go to these
elite schools and they want to only take kids who
are amazing, right like getting over fifteen hundred, sixteen hundred's
on the SAT thirty four, thirty five, thirty six on
the ACT, great ap scores, good GPAs, all those things.
(37:14):
That's fine, but they should do it on a race
blind level. And if they really want to focus on diversity,
the only diversity that matters is diversity of thought, because
otherwise you have a bunch of people who look different
but think the exact same, which is unfortunately what has
become the case in so many elite institutions out there.
(37:36):
So I think this should be disqualifying. And you can say, okay,
well he was only eighteen years old. I mean, look
at the standard that they put in place for Rachel Dolesol.
Rachel dole was, all, for those of you who don't remember,
was a white woman who was pretending to be black
that I believe ran the Spokane Washington NAACP chapter. They
(37:57):
found out that she was actually just a one white
woman who was somewhat dark skinned and was pretending to
be black, and she was ostracized from popular society, from politics,
from all that world. This guy is clearly trying to
trade on the racial spoil system. The fact that his
(38:18):
middle name is Quame. I guarantee you he got his
SAT Scores and he looked at it and he said,
there's no way, as an Asian or white kid that
I would get in. But my middle name is Quame.
Maybe I can confuse people by clicking African American or black.
Here's the other thing, Buck, and I think this is important.
He wasn't actually African American. He did not become an
(38:42):
American citizen until twenty eighteen. So even if you're going
to give him though, well, he was born in Africa,
so it's fine for him to click African American. We
know what the intent of the racial box there was.
He wasn't even African American, so he actually lied. Now
here's a question for you that I think I hope
people are going to look into. Was he admitted as
(39:04):
a minority to the school that he ultimately went to, Boden, Boden,
which I couldn't even pronounce four fourteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
At Boden, he'd get in. That's that's a that's not
so you think he got in regardless. I mean, I
went to a NESCAC school, so Boden's technically a competitor.
And you know, Boden's not that hard to get into.
Oh snap, the Boden alumni are going to flip out
at the Amherst guy. But sorry, no, it's a very
good school. But he he was. That's the thing, Clay,
Boden is the school you know that this guy would
(39:34):
that's that's the school that he would get into for
on his own merit. He tried to get into Columbia
pulling the I'm Kwame Mamdani Mandani card, right, that's the
now Here's where he may have gotten caught. His dad
was actually a faculty member, so the admission staff may
have looked into this, and I wonder if they rejected
him because they thought that he was lying about usually background.
(39:57):
It actually blew up on him, and it is a
huge deal. That's a huge deal because I know this
from friends of mine who work at universities. I have
a friend who works at Columbia University, for example, don't
want to name them, don't want to get fired for
being friends with me. But his children can go to
Columbia for free, which when you think about that value,
and then on top of that, the unspoken part of
(40:18):
the deal is if your child is even vaguely child,
you know, young adult when they're going to college, if
your kid is vaguely qualified, they are much more likely
to be accepted and they go for free. A huge
These Ivy League schools a huge It's true of all
the Ivys a lot of schools in general, but the
Ivy's for sure a huge benefit to now. I think
(40:39):
it might only be for like tenured professors. There's probably
some you know, I don't know if you're the guy
who's you know, like sweeping the floors of the auditorium,
but maybe I actually don't know. I'm getting beyond my
brief on that. But there's this other story I just
want to remind everybody of from twenty fifteen, I interviewed
this guy, you know, Mindy Kaling, the act Chris slash
(41:00):
comedian from the office. Yes, her brother her brother.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I wondered if he tell this story from people who
the DJ chokol Ingham was his name. He was Indian.
Mindy Kaling is his sister. So she's a famous actress, comedian.
She's from the office. She's the South Asian descent woman
in the office. So you've the one who's like anyway,
you know she is if you've seen the office. He
Clay didn't get into uh he had very mediocre scores,
(41:28):
didn't get into the medical school programs he wanted to.
So he reapplied, shaved his head, uh, I believe change. Yes,
shaved his head, darkened his uh or you know, tried
to like change the photo so he would look darker
in the photo. He tried to appear more black and
(41:51):
changed his name to Jojo And guess what, same score,
same person, all of a sudden getting into top medical
programs across the country and the left when he wrote
a book about it, right, was it a book or
a movie he made about this? It was a website
almost I mean, I'm just telling you what it's called.
Almost black dot com was the website that he launched,
(42:14):
you know, but what it goes to is.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It points out the absurdity he got looked at as
an Indian guy and didn't get in anywhere because he
can I tell you something.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
This is yeah, sorry, yeah, I just this is the amazing.
This is CNN, which is now like about to be
on the trash heap and turned into a channel where
they sell like Swarowsky crystals or something to you Clay
the CNN piece on this, there's little evidence to suggest
that his posturing as a black applicant helped him get
into the following schools.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
There's nothing but evidence he applied, didn't get it anywhere,
says he's black, changes his appearance and gets into a
bunch of schools, and CNN's like, there's no evidence that
being black helped him.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
This was the This was a delusion that we were
all supposed to live in.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Not only that, I mean, I mean the fact that
the if you care about minority advancement, all of these
Indian kids are so successful in America that they're actually
being penalized for being Indian. And same thing is true
of Chinese Japanese.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I mean, we've talked about this before, I think on
the program.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
But do you know the highest earning race and sex
group in America, it's Asian men. Asian men on average
make more money than anyone in America. Okay, so you
have all these young first and second generation immigrants that
want to be doctors, and they're being used their race
against them because there's too many of them doing so great.
(43:42):
This guy pretends to be black, he can suddenly get
in everywhere.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Nigerian American immigrants out earn native American native born American
I should say, yeah, households, yes, so I mean you
go to but substantially they're actually a high earning income.
It's a perfect distillation of the actual lack of racism
that you could come here from Nigeria and immediately become
(44:07):
wealthier than the average person who's been born here. The
fact that people from Nigeria are desperate to get here,
or the fact that people from any part of Africa
or Asia or Latin America destroys the racism argument on
its face. Why would you want to come to a
profoundly racist country. But I actually give credit to that.
(44:28):
I remembered that story because Mindy Kayaling is actually a
super leftist, at least publicly in the way that she
is embraced. Yeah, of course I played. Also the reason
they got upset about this is because it exposed the
absurdity of the whole situation as well as the truth
of it, and the truth of the affirmative action regime
in this country has been that they've been changing standards
(44:49):
for people, primarily people who are black, Native American or Hispanic,
primarily changing it so that they give them a couple
of hundred points equivalent on the SAT and lying about it.
And they've been doing this about forty years, and people
are sick of pretending that this isn't what's been going on.
Our generation is the one that saw it, and it's
all a big lie and we're tired of it.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And also let's also point out doctors, theoretically the people
that you would want to be the smartest and the
best at taking care. We're not talking about somebody getting
a graduate degree in ethics studies or something.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Our docugs, heart surgeons, airline pilots. There's a whole range.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Of fear merit should really really really matter. I don't
know about you, but when I get on an airplane,
I don't care about anything or God forbid, if I
ever need a heart surgery.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Anything about who my guys background or Gal's background is.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
I just want the best. Yeah, we just want the best.
Rapid radios is the best for modern day walkie talkies,
grown up version of the kids toy the radios you
played with back in the day in your neighborhood. But
these things are incredible. Rapid radios operate on a nationwide
LT network, so you can connect with anyone across the
US also carrying a rapid radio, no setup is required.
Just pull them out of the box, press a button
and talk. It's one touch connection. Perfect for busy families.
(46:06):
You can rely on them to keep your kids connected
with you, whether they're out and about or at home.
Rapid radios combine the simplicity of walkie talkies with today's
technology for peace of mind. They're a great part of
your preparation plan as well. Remember they can work when
a lot of other comms are down, so in a
disaster situation, as my own family saw my in laws
saw it, having rapid radios means you can stay connected
(46:28):
and have that instant touch to talk communication ability. So
it's a good thing to have with family members who
are down the road, next town, next state over, so
you can stay in contact even when cell towers start
to go down and things start to get really tough
out there. Rapid radios dot Com. Great for day to day,
great for your preparation plan. Go to rapid radios dot com.
(46:49):
Save up to sixty percent off, get free ups shipping
from Michigan, and use code Radio for an extra five
percent off. That's rapid radios dot Com. Save up to
sixty percent, get free ups shipping, use Code Radio for
an extra five percent off Again rapid radios dot Com
Code Radio. Two guys walk.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Up to a mic. Anything goes Clay Travis and Fuck Sexton.
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
We are joined now by Congressman Chip Roy, who represents
that area of the country. You've been working non stop.
I've seen your social handles. I know you have been
going everywhere. We appreciate the time. Congressman, what can you
tell us about what you've seen the latest?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
What is the situation there on the ground right now?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, well, I mean you said it.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
I mean those numbers that you're talking about in terms
of the total deceased, those numbers keep changing, and they're
changing more rapidly today because the recovery missions are really
starting to catch up and they're finding those who unfortunately perished.
You know, I think there's still a decent number of
unidentified children, but obviously cam't Mystic put out a report
(48:03):
or put out a statement I should say, indicating that
you know that the twenty seven where had either passed
or or they've not been able to find yet. And
this has been what we've sort of known for the
last forty eight hours. But we're holding out hope through
the through the rescue process that we might be able
to find some survivors. But it's truly devastating in that
part of the country. People who are familiar with it
(48:25):
know that it's one of the most beautiful parts.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Of the state.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
There's a reason there are eighteen kids camps in that
area and have been for years. You know, Camp Mystic
was going to turn one hundred years old next year.
I hope they will continue to stay in operation. There
are camps that have been there for generations. People go there.
It's a you know, holiday destination, which is why there
were so many people not just at kids camps, but
(48:48):
at campgrounds. That's why there's the numbers are a lot
higher than just the girls camps. Right, there was people
whose RVs were swept away. I went to a part
of kind of what's called West Kerrville into Ingram before
you get out to Hunt, where all the kids camps are,
and I stood in a spot where there had been
a whole bunch of RVs and they were just gone,
like literally, it's just been swept away. And look, the
(49:10):
response has been great. I don't want to filibuster here,
but the response by the state, the locals, the Feds
has been extraordinary. People on the ground to volunteer outreach,
the people reaching out to give money, give food, give supplies,
show up. There was a line. They had to kind
of shut down the volunteer place yesterday because there was
just too many people. That's a good problem to have.
(49:30):
But you know, this is going to be a long recovery.
So if you want to help, you know, send money,
that's great, but be ready to show up in a
week or two or three.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Right.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
You know, when people start to forget about it, that's
when they're going to need to help the most.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Const and Roy appreciate you being with us. I know
there's a lot going on there, and the whole country's
hearts are broken over the loss of life already to
the degree that you can there's already a lot of
talk about early warning. Should there have been more early warning?
Are there different systems that need to be in place.
I know it's early stage, if you will, in the
(50:04):
after action assessment to understand what might have been able
to be different, what could have been different. What is
your sense of that was there a big miss here
from the perspective of getting the word out with the
proper systems, or was it more this is just a
once in a century event and there was going to
be loss of life just based on the ferocity and
(50:26):
the speed of the floods.
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Look, I think I've been careful not to get too
much into this speculation over the last seventy two hours.
And you guys are asking this question in good faith,
and I appreciate it, and I will give you an
answer to my rough thoughts. But I will just conclude
one thought, which is I'm still getting text messages today
from love from family members, from friends around the state
(50:50):
who are just now discovering the loss of their child.
And we've got people you know that are grieving. I
met with the families night before last who had not
yet seen their kids. I was there with the sheriff
and the city manager and engaging with them about you know,
DNA collections so they can identify their kids. This is
a statement for the rest of the world. It's not
directed at you guys, but everybody that's just zeroing in
(51:14):
on this and politicizing this right out of the bat.
I mean, for the love of everything holy, everything that
is good about our people and this country and this
state is being displayed right now with everybody going to
help people, find people, comfort people, pray for people. The
pictures of those little girls singing hems coming back from
(51:34):
the camp, you know, when they had just lost girls
in their camp and they're singing hems, Christian hems while
they're looking at the damage that I saw yesterday driving
down that stretch of the river. So that's just a
message to the world, like to slow your political role.
Goodness gracious now on the question, because it is a
relevant question. One, we're going to have to figure this
(51:55):
out over time, Okay, nobody knows for sure right now.
Two the sense of it is more the latter of
your question. This was a once in a century type
of kind of flood. It has flooded before nineteen eighty seven,
previous times. It is prone to flash flooding. Therefore, number three, yes,
they probably need a better warning system, sirens, other types
(52:18):
of things. But we will go through that process going forward,
the local official, state officials, and we'll be looking at
it obviously federally, although it's not really I think, our
direct purview. But I think those things are all true.
This nonsense about the Weather Service, that's crap. They had
people there, they were putting out warnings. People knew they
were going to be flash floods. The only question is
(52:39):
is trying to determine the severity of it, Which brings
me to my last point five, which is there is bureaucracy.
There are systems that are old. We could have better technology,
we could have better predictions, We can have less bureaucracy
and communicating it. But just keep in mind this final point.
It was four am on July fourth, in the dark
(53:01):
in the hill country, way out away from civilization, when
a massive, unprecedented flood drove into basically a canyon area
where water got fuddled down the river and it rows
thirty feet in.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Less than an hour. That's what happened.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
So we can try to protect against it, and we
can do better, and we should, but let's try to
keep perspective in all of this. And I mean that respectfully.
I think your question was absolutely in good good faith
and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Chip.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Everybody who is in this area knows Camp Mystic. It
feels like we're coming up on one hundred years. I
think next year is supposed to be one hundredth anniversary
of this. What is camp Mystic?
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
What does it mean for people in your district who
may not be familiar with it but are learning now
because unfortunately, so many of these young kids appear to
have been victims based on being located there.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Well, I mean, just to give you a couple of
data points. Number One, night before last, when I was
with all those families, there's a woman there named Mary
Liz Eastland. She lost her father in law, Dick Eastland,
who was the older man who bought that camp in
the nineteen seventies, in nineteen seventy three, who died on
the night of the event trying to save little girls.
(54:18):
So she has just lost her father in law. She's
with these families who had just lost their kids, So
you can imagine the tension there. But they showed up
to shelter each.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Other in love.
Speaker 7 (54:28):
And the amount of support and outpouring that's been coming
out because the families who have gone there for years.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It's a part of the culture here.
Speaker 7 (54:35):
My kids go to a classical Christian school. A large
chunk of the kids that go to their school go
to Camp Mystic or have been to Camp Mystic. They
had friends who were there. In this particular week, we
had a little girl from our school who was saved,
you know, praised the Lord, she was saved. She was
kind of floating in the river for a couple of hours.
And we've had other stories like that. But we've also
(54:56):
had stories of people we know, friends of ours. One
of my staffers, Fraturney, brought his daughter was lost. One
of the people I used to work and who I
hired in the Senator Cruise's office her daughter's best friend.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
She passed away.
Speaker 7 (55:09):
I had a local jeweler who talked to James Avery
they lost one of their loved ones. The Kansas City
Chiefs family lost the loved one. It's hitting everybody but
it's a great historic camp. And one last thing is
one of my staffers, you know, worked there and talked
about what a great man Dick Eastland was teaching him
fly fishing and all the ways of life. This morning
my office we got a fellow staffer from another Texas
(55:32):
office who sent us a box of cookies and it said,
at camp Mystic Tweety, who was mister Eastland's wife, she's
still alive. She made cookies and they were given to
campers as a reward for hard work. And they sent
us cookies because my staff has been working around the
clock for the last three days.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Congress and Roy, is there anything that can be done
by this audience, by people listening. We have a lot
of people who are right in your area. By the way,
we're probably ten minute drive from or in the county
or ten minute drive from the county line. But anything
nationwide as well, if that can be done to just
to assist to help. Are there organizations that are doing
(56:14):
a lot of frontline work that could use support. We
just want to put that out there.
Speaker 7 (56:18):
Yeah, I mean, there's obviously there's a lot of great
work going on. There's a community foundation in the Hill Country,
that is collecting a lot of money and then a
lot of food places and so forth. Volunteers can sign
up online at it's called tcr dot community os dot org.
You can find that if you look or call eight
(56:39):
three zero four six five four seven nine seven for
volunteers to sign up. There are places to be able
to give money. That stuff's all going to be out
and if you want to know, just go to my
Twitter at Chiproy t X c h I p R
o I t X or Rep Chiproy and I will
be putting all of that out with graphics and places
where people can give.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
And my biggest ask is we've got.
Speaker 7 (57:02):
Everybody wanting to come in right now, and I get it,
and God bless you for it, but it's hard, right
We can't take everybody in everything right now. This is
going to be a multi week thing. So if you can,
you know, volunteer or contribute or engage, you know next week,
you know in a month, they're going to need it,
and so everything. We'll take everything whenever we can, but
(57:22):
just just know they're going to need it for a while.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Last thing that I want, I appreciate you coming on
with us. I know how many hours you're working, and
how many places you are right now we're talking to
Congressman Chip Roy. Unfortunately, it looks like one hundred or
more people are going to lose their lives. How many
thousands of lives do you think first responders and good
people just on the ground there saved because a lot
(57:47):
of those stories are going to be coming out too,
and the amount of life that was saved, I think
in the people who put their lives on the line
to do that, there's going to be some incredible stories.
What are you already hearing about that?
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (58:02):
I mean looks it does look like tragically we're going
to lose about twenty five of these precious kids and mostly,
if not entirely, little girls. But there were about nine
hundred or so campers in that whole region across those
eighteen camps, and we got out, you know, eight hundred
and fifty eight hundred and seventy of those kids and
most of the counselors and directors. But there's heroic stories.
(58:24):
A camp director who lost her life saving I think
five of those little kids herself, and she was a
member of the local church I met.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
The pastor of that church is randomly.
Speaker 7 (58:33):
When I was down at the lake, and like, this
is the community, that's part of our family, right when
I go down to that park.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
I was going to be there for Fourth of July.
That was the plan.
Speaker 7 (58:41):
I go there every year to go listen to Robert 'keane.
He's one of my favorite Texas country artists. Guy named
William Beckman got down all the time to listen to
these guys, and it's just a place everybody goes, you know.
There were great stories, Like I said, Dick Eastland, he
died trying to save three little girls at four or
five six in the morning when those floods were running
(59:03):
through there. And I cannot explain enough for the average
viewer how fast that water rose, like the extent twitch
going up twenty six.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
To thirty feet in about an hour, hour and a half.
You can't put into words.
Speaker 7 (59:15):
There was a guy who lost two daughters, not as
part of the camp. He was just in a house
down on vacation and they were in the house and
they said the water was rising a foot per minute
and it just boom, it just came in. So that's
what people were dealing with. But there's been a lot
of heroic stories, a lot of people who save lives.
Coast Guard guy that basically helped evacuate about two hundred
(59:38):
of the campers, and so many different stories like that,
and we're just deeply appreciate of everybody who's been engaging
and helping.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
Well.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Congress Nroy, Our hearts and prayers thoughts go to the
people of Texas Hill Country and the great state of
Texas overall, and we'll let you get back to attending
to all of them, and thank you for making the
time today.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
I appreciate you, guys. God bless you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Looking out for the lives of unborn children in the
womb is Preborn's highest priority and they are doing everything
they can day in and day out to save lives.
Last year, Preborn made it possible for more than sixty
five thousand unborn children who come into this world. They
start this process with a free ultrasound for moms who
are making that critical decision a lot of times with pressure,
(01:00:23):
a lot of times people telling them, oh, you shouldn't
go through with this, and Preborn says, no, come in.
We will welcome you with open arms, no judgment, and
we want to give you a free ultrasound so you
can meet your baby, and that begins this process that
so often, with Preborn's help, leads to a little baby
boy or girl coming into this world. Preborn operates clinics
in communities where they know that abortion rates are the highest,
(01:00:45):
so they can be on the front lines right there,
saving tiny babies each and every day. That ultrasound is
so critical in this process. And you can donate twenty
eight dollars knowing that that will give an ultrasound to
an who is making that critical decision today. A twenty
eight dollars expense per ultrasound is all it takes. Some
(01:01:06):
of you can donate one hundred. Some of you can
donate one thousand dollars because it's something that matters to
so many of us in the pro life community. And
you are fortunate enough to be able to donate twenty
eight dollars per ultrasound for preborn Please consider it today.
Dial pound two point fifty and say the keyword baby.
That's pound two five zero, Say baby, or go to
(01:01:27):
preborn dot com, slash buck preborn dot com slash b
u c K sponsored by Preborn News.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
You can count on and some laughs too. Clay Travis
at Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Jesse Kelly Tears It Up Week nine six to nine
on seven ten wo R.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Since nine to eleven, the Tunnel the Towers Foundation has
been supporting America's greatest heroes and their families. Heroes like
Mark Holbert. He was born into a military family. Mark's
father served for twenty five years and his grandfather fought
in World War Two. Mark turned his childhood dream of
serving into a reality when he enlisted in the United
States Army. He served multiple tours, including three in Afghanistan.
(01:02:16):
On his fourth tour, he stepped on an ied He
lost two of his fingers and both of his legs.
The Tunnel to Towers Foundation provided Mark and his family
with a mortgage free smart home, which enables Mark to
live more independently. Mark and so many others have paid
a high price to protect our country and communities. Friends
like you of help to say thank you to Mark
and so many others, not just with words, but through actions.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Help even more of America's heroes like Mark by supporting
Tunnel to Towers. Join us in donating eleven dollars a
month to tunnel to towers at T two t dot org.
That's tea the number two T dot org.
Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Feeling drained, foggy, are just not yourself. This could be
the effects of low testosterone levels. Henry Men's as you
covered it, stops on replacement therapy or TRT is available
in pills, injectable or daily cream.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Gravis and Buck Sexton show on seven to ten wor.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, we just
talked to Congressman Roy to get a real up to
date sense of everything going on in the Hill Country
of Texas after those terrible floods, and I said, we're watching,
We're monitoring this conversation in the background that's trying to
politicize this and trying to avoid spending too much time
on it, but it is happening. There are people out there.
(01:03:42):
There's usual lunatic chirping online about climate change denial and
stuff like that, but White House Press Secretary of Caroline
Levitt just in the last hour also wanted to bring
out there that these the attempts to attack I think
that there's a once in a century flood. We just
had a Congressman from the district Ome We've had people
calling in live there once in a century flood, Clay,
(01:04:02):
And there are people that are saying it's Trump's fault.
I mean that they're already going out there, Oh it's Trump,
the cuts, or there's something they're so desperate to somehow
take this tragedy and score political points. And the White
House Press Secretary, this is thirty three not having it
play it.
Speaker 9 (01:04:17):
These offices were fully staffed. The San Angelo office was
fully staffed with twelve forecast meteorologists. There were no vacancies.
The San Antonio Offices office was operating with eleven forecasters,
and as Brian said, the Union themselves said that there
was adequate staffing. So I think those words speak for themselves,
and the numbers speak for themselves. This was a once
(01:04:38):
in a century flash flood, a tragic natural disaster, and
the administration is doing all that we can on the
ground to help these families during this time of need.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I just you can't let the can't let the media
lies go on, unresponded to Clay. Yeah, I think that's important,
and we come back, we'll talk a little bit more
about this, because I do think it matters for the
facts to be out there.
Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
But anybody who's lived through tornadoes, floods, blaming hurricanes, blaming
the president or congressmen or the people, god forbid who
are the victims in the immediate aftermath is wrong. Expecting
for the government to do a good job on taking
care of people with FEMA in the aftermath those things,
(01:05:22):
that's very valid.
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Okay, So I think.
Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
There is a line where you say, hey, the fires
in Los Angeles are burning, man, that wildfire.
Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Man, that stinks.
Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Hey, how about we put them out right? Most of
the focus should be on the cleanup and the response
to the disaster, not the idea that somehow this was
going to happen. Look, if Joe Biden were president, I
think the same number of people sadly would have died
Kamala Harris, same number of people would have died as
died with Trump in office. Trying to make this political
(01:05:54):
is profoundly unfair.
Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
You know, the Trump administration is very focused on improving
our com I getting a lot of growth going, and
that affects your buying power and good ways. But as
we know, they can't consider your own personal finances when
they're trying to do what's right for the country. That's
on you. You need to take smart action for yourself
and your future today and looking after your savings via diversification.
(01:06:17):
When we have thirty seven trillion in debt that's only
going up, it makes sense buying gold from Birch Gold
Group is what I recommend. In the past year alone,
gold has increased forty percent in value, and central banks
from countries around the world are buying up gold left
and right in record quantities. Birch Gold makes owning physical
(01:06:39):
gold extremely easy. I own gold. You can too. But
Birch Gold can also convert an existing IRA or four
one can into a tax sheltered IRA. Text my name
Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Get in
touch with Birch Gold Text buck to ninety eight ninety
eight ninety eight Today
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We
hope all of you had fabulous July fourth. So I
was down on the first inaugurald July fourth at the
Gulf of America. Had an amazing time. Buck was down
in Miami. We hope that you have gotten back or
are in the process of returning from what may have
(00:23):
been a long holiday weekend. We've got a ton of
news to dive into with all of you. The Big
Beautiful Bill passes as we told you it would. There
was some drama, but Trump signed it on July fourth.
It is now law certainty when it comes to taxes
and beyond. We will discuss much of that, as well
(00:46):
as border security. Mom Donnie gets caught lying about his
race on college applications. He is the Democrat nominee for
mayor in New York City. I do think that is
actually a store glory of some significance. Net and Yahoo
visiting with Trump. We will update you on any of
the fallout there. Puff Daddy, Sean Combs, Diddy, whatever you
(01:09):
want to call him. We told you we were skeptical
of the case. A lot of people were shocked when
he was found not guilty of the most significant of
those charges. We will discuss that quite a lot as well.
But the biggest story I think coming out of the
weekend is the flooding situation which may well kill unfortunately
(01:34):
one hundred people in Texas. And I know many of
you are in that listening area with us right now
in Texas and are listening to us and experienced exactly
what happened over the holiday weekend as a massive amount
of rain fell and the river there swept away and
(01:57):
rose at a level that is frankly completely unheard of
historically occurs. It's one of these things where it happens
five hundred year thousand year floods, and it happened in
the middle of the night, and happened right along a
basically church camp that has been in Texas for nearly
(02:20):
one hundred years, just shy of one hundred years. I
bet that many of you in that area, many of
you who are Texans, may have gone, friends and family
went there. Many young lives lost. It is an awful,
awful story there, and unfortunately it immediately became a political ridiculousness.
(02:43):
People trying to blame President Trump, people trying to blame
Trump voters Republicans, and that happened almost instantaneously. Based on
everything that I have seen and read, and I tried
to familiarize myself to a great degree with this story,
it's just a cavalcade of really unfortunate events, in particular
(03:09):
the fact that many of these alerts which all went out,
were going out in the middle of the night, and
a lot of people were sleeping, and the water rose
so quickly that before people were even aware that they
were in danger, many people found themselves standing in water,
or even having their homes in the places where they
(03:29):
were staying near the river underwater. In a way that
just happened overnight, And so I think there's gonna be
a lot of discussion going forward about how do we
handle some of these situations in the future. I imagine
a lot of you out there experienced it yourself, and
you're listening to us right now. I shared a charity,
I'll retweet it that I've donated to that I would
(03:52):
encourage a lot of you if you want to give
back to this community. But Buck, I think the biggest
unfortunate aspect of this is that it happened in the
middle of the night. Everybody is sleeping. You may be
getting these alerts on your phones. You probably have the
radio turned off. And it just happened so quickly that
(04:14):
it caught people. A lot of people unaware the alerts
were going out. It was just most people were sleeping.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
There are a.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Lot of analyzes already about what could have been done
to have avoided this, And I know there's a lot
of heartbreak for the families, for the communities, and the
girls at this camp, Mystic, which lost already twenty seven
of its girls, its campers, and counselors. I mean, it's
(04:43):
horrible beyond words, and our hearts break for those who
were affected by this. Clay I remember summer camp, I
mean so many of us. It's supposed to be a
time of joy and like a lot of people, some
of their fond perhaps even fondest memories or summer camps
growing up. And to have something like this, a tragedy
like this hit that community, it's just unthinkable. Now we
(05:05):
have immediately what could have been done, and they're still searching.
I know, so they're searching. Rescue efforts are underway, and
there have been some incredibly brave first responder efforts that
have saved a lot of lives in this process. I
mean they are pulling people, have been pulling people out
of trees, off of rooftops. The photos, the imagery of
(05:27):
these floods does bring home pretty quickly to anybody, no
matter where you are across the country, around the world,
just how violent and how extreme these flood waters were.
And also for anyone who's been around or knows about this,
it's more like a wall of kind of mud and silt.
(05:48):
A lot of the time. It's a tremendous amount of
debris in this water. It moves fast, it comes in high,
and there's a lot of stuff in it as well,
so it can be very hard to to maneuver in.
And so it's it's obviously very lethal. I mean they've
had clay. I was reading about previous rescue attempts. I
believe there was a rescue attempt for a previous flood
(06:09):
situation where the where a bus full of people was
swept away. So they were trying to get people away
from it, and the bus itself got swept away. To
give you a sense of how houses disappear. Obviously, the
camp uh, these sort of camp grounds that these girls
were in not able to withstand this, and people are saying, well,
(06:30):
how could the warning have gone out sooner? Or what
could have been done differently? There's siren alarm systems that
are in place in neighboring counties that went off. There
was an effort to get a similar alarm system in
place in the county where Camp Mystic was was located,
and they didn't get the funding for it. Now, would
(06:53):
a an alarm system like that, right, there's alarms that
go off to your phones, there's the warnings, there's all
these different pieces come into play. But having sirens effectively
like an air raid siren situation, would that have changed
this at four am in this county, That's going to
be something that people look at, I think very closely.
(07:14):
But the timing of it could not have been worse
in terms of the casualties that would come from the event,
because people are the most you know, the most likely
to be asleep, the least likely to be communicating with
each other in the area, and also the least able
to handle moving. It's just that the truth is, any
human being you wake them up at four o'clock in
(07:35):
the morning, they're moving more lethargically they're not thinking clearly,
and now you think about little kids at four am,
and it's just a it's a horrific situation, and I
know that it's it's been a heartbreak for Texas and
for the whole country.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, I think what you hit on is something that's
going to be talked about. I turned my phone off
a lot at night, just because I don't want to
be woken up. And I do think that one of
the things that they've tried to do with tornadoes, and
tornadoes come through where I live and have hit my
hometown of Nashville recently in as significant and deadly way.
(08:13):
The tornado sirens are basically impossible to ignore, and we
have situations where people don't get the notifications on their phones.
Is there a flood related siren that can be installed.
I don't know the answer to that, but I think
that's the conversation that's going to happen going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Warning systems always have this.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Look.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm in Florida, the hurricane capital of America, right, and
you have Floridians who you're not going to get them
to move out of where you know. I know people
who have been here now they've obviously been alive for
fifty sixty seventy years. They've been through a lot of hurricanes.
You're not getting them to move no matter what the yeah,
what the warning is, because they've been through. Look, we
(08:55):
just had this in Florida actually recently, where it was
this is the big one. It's gonna hit Tampa. Tampa
is going to be and then sure enough it actually
hit western hit my in laws area, western North Carolina
much harder than it did the Tampa area in terms
of the damage and the casualties from it. So in
this case, Clay, if you have a lot of alarms
(09:16):
going off, a lot of warnings going off in a
place that is used to flooding, what then is the
threshold for Oh, no, we've got to get to high
ground right now, as opposed to the area that we're
in is having another flood right That's where you know
you can sense there's going to be some difficulty here
(09:39):
to figure out how this could be avoided. And then
also people, i think even Congressman Roy, who this is
this a lot of this happened in his district, Chip
Roy saying in an interview it's also a once in
a century event, So it's very hard to prepare appropriately
for what people call in probability analysis a black swan
(10:01):
or a fat tale event. Right, fat tale is a
low probability, very high impact basically something that you don't
think is going to happen, but if it does happen,
it's really bad. Well, that is what the situation is
with these floods. So there'll be analysis of this. And
I don't even think, I don't know how much you
want to even talk about. There are people who have
come out and tried to politicize this right away, and
(10:22):
it's gross, it's pathetic, and it's really just evidence of
a political derangement, you know. I think it's much more
important for everybody to focus on the first respond to efforts,
the sear ongoing search and rescue efforts, and to really
look at this honestly and see what could have been
done to make sure that this won't be done. This
won't happen again in the future, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And I think what you said too, sometimes we actually
over deliver in terms of, hey, there's a flood warning.
There's a flood warning, and sometimes the floods aren't that significant,
but there is a flood warning. But I think, really,
what happened here is it happened in the middle of
the night, and I just think people, you know, most
(11:07):
of history, you wouldn't have had a cell phone to
be getting alerts on If there is a way to
sit around and really contemplate this going forward when they
are able to fully have done all the recovery and
all those efforts. I do wonder whether one of the
things that they added here after the devastating tornadoes we've
had is the sirens. Is there a way to have
(11:30):
sirens along the river that notifies in a serious way
when things like this are happening because people are sleeping.
I mean, I think a lot of people frankly just
got swept away in the middle of the night, never
even knew they were in danger because the waters came
up so fast here.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, so they'll look at this much more closely. The
experts will look at what could have been done here.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But this is.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
True of a lot of natural disasters, which this clearly is.
If it's bad enough, you're talking more about casualty mitigation
than casualty elimination, meaning you're not going to be able
to save everybody you're trying to save as many people
as possible, but when you're looking at almost one hundred
people in this area from flooding, that's just the numbers
(12:15):
just far too there's numbers far too high for anyone
to think that this system was sufficient given the risk factors,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Also, the holiday weekend probably increased the number of people,
sadly that we're camping on alongside of the banks and
the river, as many people were doing to celebrate with
their friends and family. So it really was the worst
possible scenario with timing, with date and everything else associated
with it. But our thoughts and prayers and we're going
(12:43):
to again. I'll retweet what I am told is a
very good charity that is local in the area that
I've supported, And if you're wanting to do something, you
can join this as well. If you want to call
in and share your thoughts on this, if you're living
the area or you know people affected by it. Lines
obviously are open. We know we have our San Antonio
(13:05):
affiliate WOAI, which is a huge signal which does reach
into this area. We have some other signals from smaller
stations that are in the area. So if you're listening
and you want to fill us in on just what
you saw that happen yourself, or what you know from
people firsthand, what you're hearing about the search and rescue
and first responder efforts which are ongoing.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I believe they're still unfortunately expecting clay pretty heavy weather today,
so that complicates matters. But our lines are open and
we definitely want to hear from you. We're all feeling
this one. Let's talk about cyber scammers and how they're
tricking Americans with fake passport application and renewal websites, so
you think you're getting a passport, but instead you're actually
(13:45):
getting your information stolen. Remember there's only one official US
government site for applying for passports. Any other website is
an imposter site that's trying to steal your info. Situations
like these are all over the internet, So it's really
important to understand how cyber and identity theft are affecting
our lives and a risk for all of us, and
that's why you need LifeLock. Lifelock's online identity theft protection
(14:08):
is the single best way to protect your online identity.
They monitor millions of data points a second, the kind
that may indicate your online identity has been stolen. LifeLock
to text and alerts you to potential identity threats you
may not spot on your own, like loans taken out
on your name, and if you do become a victim
of identity theft. A LifeLock member can actually help you
with this. There's a dedicated US based restoration specialist at
(14:31):
LifeLock who will help you fix it guaranteed or your
money back. I've had LifeLock for many years. You should
have LifeLock watching your back too. Join now and say
forty percent off your first year with promo code Buck.
Call one eight hundred LifeLock or head to LifeLock dot
com and use my name Buck as your promo code
for forty percent off terms applied.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim
your sanity with Clay and Bud. Find them on the
Free card radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Just an update here, we are following closely events in
the Hill Country of Texas the west of San Antonio
with these horrible floods that I've taken. Now at least
ninety lives I believe, or close to ninety lives with
the latest count we are following as closer. We're going
to talk to Congressmanship Roy. This is his district that
(15:26):
got hit so badly by the flash floods, and we'll
talk to him about what's going on in the rescue,
search and rescue operations, and also look into could this
have been mitigated. I think prevented is unlikely, but mitigated
meaning less awful than it was under the circumstances. We'll
discuss that with him, and also maybe a little bit
(15:50):
of the people that are politicizing this. It's so beneath
contempt and so just so grotesque that I don't know
how much time we really should spend on it, Clay,
because anybody who says things like, well this is a
maga area. I know there was a doctor who got fired,
I just yeah, it's people. It's awful.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I think in general, when disaster happens, Okay, I'm talking
about the disaster itself, it is almost impossible to argue, hey,
this person is responsible for this disaster, right, I'm talking
about natural disaster. Where it is fair I think to
talk is when the government doesn't respond, When the government
(16:35):
doesn't respond rapidly to take care of people, when FEMA
does a poor job. That's that's a reality, right at
some point that conversation is real.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I think responde.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Hits flood hits and you're like, Oh, this is the
president's fault, or it's a senator's fault, or it's a
voter's fault. I mean, the little girls who were at
that camp. They didn't vote in the twenty twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
There just little girls at summer camp.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And if kids die, and your thought is this is
a political thing, I want to respond to it immediately.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You need to look at your shore. There's something deeply
there's something you did, something broken inside, no question. So anyway,
we're following this close that we've updated you to the
best of our knowledge about what's going on right now
still search and rescue efforts. We can also get to
some more of your calls on the back half of
this hour if you want to talk about things that
were missed or things that we need to know about,
or you just want to share your thoughts as a
(17:28):
member of that community we're taking. We have lines lit
from people that were effectively in the flood areas, so
we want to hear from from you first and foremost
on that I did want to, because we've been off
for a few days, focus on some news stories that
deal with the economy and and what I think we
can expect here going forward. Another another moment of what
(17:50):
we tell you is going to happen generally happens on
this show. We said it about the Seawan Combs verdict,
which is very different than the Big Beautiful Bill situation.
But we said that, and we also said that, I mean,
I was basically ready as soon as the Senate passed
the Clay. I was like, yeah, it's basically a done deal.
And you you correctly said, well, the House and then try, yeah,
I know, I know, but this is not really and
(18:11):
sure enough, yes, the process was, it went back to
the House, they didn't do anything. They passed the thing
as it was. Trump signed it on the Big Beautiful Bill.
So it happened as we thought. And the objections based
on budgetary and spending issues, those did not actually those
did not materialize into anything that got really any attention
(18:33):
before the holiday. So Trump signed it.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now let's get into some of what happens now on
this because I think this is I think there's some
important components of this some aspects of this that deserve
us to drill in on a little bit. First of all,
you know Speaker Johnson saying that it's going to be
jet fuel for the economy. I think we actually said
exactly that here on the show, so you know that's
(18:57):
can't disagree with that. I think it's going to be
credibly powerful. The US is close to a couple of
trade deals that was being reported on last night. Scott
Best in the Treasury Secretary looking at this clay. There
is the tariff pause that Trump put in place that
ends next week. So the negotiating period is coming to
(19:20):
a terminus here, or at least the negotiating period as
set forth the last time around, is coming to a
point here. But the people that have been saying that
this is going to result in disaster the whole time
and it's all going to be skyrocketing prices, they were
wrong before. I think they're gonna be wrong again. And
I think we could get some very big things, big
(19:45):
things done here in terms of trade in the days ahead.
And I think Trump has bought a lot of goodwill
from people out there to finish this negotiation, because so
far the economy has been doing really well, and the
scary enough about the trade negotiations have not come to
fruition at all.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And I think this is another example where expert opinion
that in some way, having tariffs put in place and
negotiating these trade deals, we're going to destroy the United
States economy. I mean, on Wednesday or Thursday, right before
the July fourth holiday, we were at an all time
(20:25):
high in the S and P five hundred stock market
in general, and we're still basically there now today. So look,
is it going to potentially come back a little bit. Yes,
but I think the doom and gloom the world is
going to collapse. Catastrophists have been proven wrong when it
(20:45):
comes to tariff negotiations and what the impact is going
to be going forward.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I just think they're wrong.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And that doesn't mean that there may not be challenges
ahead economically somewhat.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Look to me, we talked a lot about this on
Wednesday or sorry, Tuesday. To me, the pivot now that
the big beautiful Bill has passed is growth.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Growth. Growth.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
The way that we are going to get our financial
house in order now is we have to get the
economy moving at higher than three percent level. Growth is
the best thing that can happen economic growth to start
to bring in way more revenue to start to balance
(21:35):
the budget. That's what's going to have to happen. And
the bill was imperfect, as all bills are. We talked
about this. A lot of people just don't want to
address the reality of government spending and debts. There isn't
the political will to address it. Part of me buck
I think I said this on the show, but part
of me feels like politicians are just going to be
(21:56):
fine with having to cut benefits because the math doesn't
add up, and they're just going to say, hey, the
math is what it is and avoid having to make
any decisions in advance, and then in twenty thirty three
or whatever the year is, they're just going to be
they're going to look at it and say, hey, everybody
gets seventy percent of what was promised because the money
(22:16):
isn't there, and we're sorry, but that's the reality, and
you have to deal with it because otherwise it would
require having real conversations about it, and it doesn't feel
like anybody wants to have a real conversation. We're just
kind of living in this magical era where what the
math shows US is going to happen down the line.
(22:37):
We're not going to acknowledge it until basically we're there.
You know, there are Democrats who are saying this is
going to be what results in disaster in the midterms
for Republicans. First of all, if Trump hadn't if this
hadn't gotten pasted, and this had gotten if this had
fallen apart on the on the shoals, if this had
come apart on the shoals of Congress infighting, that would
(23:00):
be far worse for the Republicans because you'd ask, what
exactly are they doing if they can't do this?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And because they have the votes, as we saw, Republicans
have the votes, they got it through. Trump's very excited
about it. I would note the attacks on it are
along the lines of the cuts to medicaid.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And it's not really cuts, as Scott Beston has pointed out,
it's a decrease in the increase over.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He talked about this. Yeah, they increase, they've allowed. The
idea of a cut is just slowing growth. So it's like, hey,
you're fat, but instead of putting on ten pounds of
extra weight this year, you put on six. Nobody would say, boy,
that's a real cut. You're still getting fatter. You're just
getting fat or slower. Scott Bessant reminded Dana batt oh,
(23:44):
we should do the CNN. Megan Kelly did a breakdown
of the CNNMSNBC ratings.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And it's it's just crazy over there. No one's watching
these channels anymore that we you know, we grew up
certainly with CNN as this brand, global news and all
this stuff, and they's completely falling apart. But anyway, he
went on. Scott Bessent was talking to Dana bash about
the Medicaid work requirement has cut three and listen to
(24:11):
him explain reality a bit.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I think to have them register twice a year for
these benefits, that is not a burden. My impression of
the Republican Party is that historically wanted to cut through
the red tape and not create more red tape. Well, no, no, no,
But we've also wanted to put in work requirements, which
somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton, was popular under
(24:35):
President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew out the deficit
in twenty twenty and they never want to bring it back.
But work requirements even pull well with the median Democratic voter,
maybe not the.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Fringe work requirements play. You have to actually do something
if you're an able body. We're not talking about you know,
mom with kids, We're not talking about disabled people. You
have to be willing to check in and say, hey,
I'm trying to do something productive for society, and therefore
please continue to give me healthcare welfare, which is what
(25:09):
medicaid is. It only requires twenty hours for able body,
mostly men, and twenty hours of work is considered to
be enough, and some of that can be charity work.
So I mean we're talking legitimately about hey, just do something.
There's a huge percentage and I hope that some of
(25:30):
the deportations are going to impact this in a positive way.
There's a huge percentage of men that just don't work.
And I'm not talking about sixty five year old men.
I'm talking about twenty five, thirty five, forty five men
who are in the prime, earning years of what should
be their work life and just don't work, just don't
do anything. And why should they get Why should we
(25:53):
who are out there working give them benefits. I got
fired up over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You know, the big beautiful bill is past, but it
preserves thirty seven percent tax rates. Right, that's the highest
level tax rate. Think about that for a minute. Well,
we've just accepted as reality. That means that if you
are out there paying thirty seven percent tax and I am,
that means I work Monday Tuesday every week just for
(26:19):
the government. Presume that I don't work seven days, which
I basically do, but five days a week Monday to Friday.
If you're paying thirty seven percent, this doesn't even count
state taxes, property taxes, all those other things, just the
federal government. Every day of the week. I work Monday
and Tuesday for the federal government. That's kind of crazy
(26:41):
that we just accept thirty seven percent tax rates. And
a lot of you out there, if you live in California,
or you live in New York, or you live in Illinois,
you're actually paying over half every work week, half of
the time. You basically are an employee of the United
States government or your local tax authority. It's crazy that
(27:02):
we have just accepted this as reality. But that's where
we are.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Medicaid here according to groc which I do find a
very useful and fun tool on the fly to use
Medicaid spending in twenty twenty four was a little over
six hundred billion dollars. Six hundred billion dollars. And remember
that's that's not including Medicare, which is for people sixty
(27:27):
five and up. That is the amount of money that
the country is spending on for people who, for one
reason or another are unable to get insurance or health
care coverage themselves. That is a very large sum of
money that is that is going toward this. I mean,
it's what it's approaching, like the Pentagon budget that we
(27:48):
spend on Medicaid.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
What do you think that actually the big problem we have.
I think there are two major broken parts of America
right now. What is the tax ode completely broken?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Too?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Is healthcare? It's completely broken. Regardless of what your politics are.
That's six hundred billion dollars. You just said, how much
of that do you think actually benefits health? In other words,
if it weren't spent, that there would be a precipitous
decline in overall health there. There was a big study,
the Oregon Study years ago, a study out of Oregon
(28:22):
that showed that the actual health outcomes for people with
Medicaid versus people who are similar socioeconomic status who do
not have access to Medicaid. They could, they could find
no difference. Remember emergency emergency services. Anybody, you walk in
the emergency room, you get.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Treated, although these days you might wait twelve hours in
a hallway because there's a ton of illegals who are
going for frontline care and everything. But put that aside
for a moment, emergency room care, and that's you know,
there's a moral obligation that society has accepted where if
you need medical treatment, you get treated. Okay, fine, But
Medicaid is more the routine that going in for this
(29:01):
check up or that or whatever. How much of that
is waste and how much of that isn't even benefiting
the patients who are going in for I think any
one really knows.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
If you ask me, I think we could cut half
of all medical treatments in America, all of them half,
and I think we would see no impact in quality
of life or length of life.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
In other words, we're just wasting money so much every
single day and getting not great outcomes. And if you
question that, just look at the average lifespan. We spend
way more money in America on health care than any
other country, we don't live the longest.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So this is the Oregon experiment. This is published in
a really radical right wing thing called the New England
Journal of Medicine. Randomized controlled study Medicaid coverage generated no
significant improvements in physical health outcomes in the first two years.
That was a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
No, they can't even say that it makes a healthier
at all in any way.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I mean, I think, just based on data, look at
life spans and correspond them with money spent there is
we are not getting our money's worth if you compare
how long we live to other countries that spend a
fraction on healthcare of what we do. Look value speaking
of Unfortunately, know how every story ends, and you're at
(30:22):
some point going to need to have your estate and probate.
You're going to pass, and you probably have spent a
lot of time thinking about how to take care of
your family in your life. Have you thought about how
to take care of your family after you're gone. That's
the purpose of a will and a trust, to keep
your kids from fighting, your grandkids from fighting, just letting
everybody know what your desires are. You spend so much
(30:45):
time trying to help your family to the best of
your ability. Why not take care of everything up to
and including your passing. Just decide yourself. Now, go to
trust and will dot Com. They'll walk you through everything.
I've got both trusts and wills. It's set up. I'm
ready to go when that day comes. Are you you
(31:06):
take care of your family? Have you helped to take
care of what happens when you pass? Trustinwill dot Com
experts in creating personalized trust and wills that protect your
legacy and your family after you're gone. Trustinwill dot com
do it Today.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you
unite us all each day, spend time with Clay and
buy Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever
you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
The racial spoils system, everybody, let's talk about this for
a little bit, shall we? Racial spoil system. That's actually
how it was referred to an a Supreme Court decision.
I want to say by Aldo at one point, and
as you know, you're not allowed to for college admissions
discriminate on the basis of race anymore. Schools are still
doing it left and right. The Trump administration is going
(31:58):
to have to sue a lot of them, and other
people are going to have to bring a lot of lawsuits.
They're gonna have to feel the financial pain of their racism,
because that's what it is now. Because the same system
that said you're allowed to take people based on their
skin color over other people, or based on their ethnicity,
you know, indigenous persons background, whatever it is for you know,
(32:22):
Native Americans, that same system now says, no, that's actually wrong.
You shouldn't do that, and you're no longer able to
do that. And this brings me to Zoran and Clay
still By. His middle name is Kwame Zorn Quame mam
Dami Mamdani applied in two thousand and nine to Colombia.
(32:44):
New York Times wrote about this. There's a lot going
on here everyone, and he claimed that he was African American.
Now just so we get the facts, let me just
get the facts out black.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
The box that he checked is African American or black?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Well, well, if he's he's hanging his hat so to speak,
I mean, he he's you know, claiming that the African
American part of it is like because he was qualified Africa,
because he was born in Africa. So we're gonna talk
about this in a second, right. So, uh, he says
he's African American and slash black. Now we know that's
that's he's clearly not black. And but his this goes
(33:22):
to a few things. First of all, this guy is
and I don't think he didn't get in right, he
did not get admitted to Columbia. Now there's only two
there's only really one way I think that that's possible
based on because now Chris Rufo, you don't want Rufo
on on your on your tail. You don't want him
coming after you. He has his whole Columbia file. Have
you seen this? No, he has this whole Columbia admissions file.
(33:45):
Somehow Chris Rufo got this, and he has his SAT scores.
He has everything. Chris Rufo has all this stuff. So
here's here's what we have. He got a twenty one
forty out of twenty four hundred. I wish it was
out of the sixteen hundred because I don't know what
twenty one to forty really. I mean, I guess that's
like a seven hundred equivalent. So maybe it's like a
(34:08):
fourteen hundred, which is not a bad score. It's a
good sat score. But for Colombia, if you're white or Asian,
that's probably not gonna cut it, not even close. So
this guy he applied. He applied. The point here is
everyone he did. He pulled in Elizabeth Warren. All right,
let's just let's just get right down to this clay
(34:29):
quam I mean a mom. Sorry, Zoran Kwame Mamdami figured
I'll pretend to be black to get for the purposes
of admission, to get into Columbia University. It didn't work.
I think they figured it out. That's what I was
gonna say before. I think they knew this guy wasn't
really black. Uh. And he's now saying because he was
(34:50):
born in Africa, well under that standard. Elon Musk any
white South African, anyone born in Egypt or North Africa,
I might add, if you're out Algerian, there are many
Algerians plays are as light skinned as you and I are. Okay,
there's a whole ethnic berber b e R B e
R there a lot. Some of them have blue eyes
(35:13):
and light hair and light skin, live in North Africa
and been indigenous to North Africa for like a thousand
years or something. All Right, they've been there a long time.
If you applied as a North African, as an African
American slash black, people would would flip out. If you
were Egyptian. Cairo is a huge city, millions of mons
of people, they would flip out. Mam Donnie tried to
(35:35):
pull the card of oh, I'm kwame, Mam Donnie, the
black guy applying to Columbia. Let me in. The guy's
a fraud. He pulled the Elizabeth Warren and now we
know yes.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And I think also to build on the analogy made
I mean, Charlie's Tarne is from South Africa. Elon Musk
is from South Africa. If Ewon Musk had gotten government
contracts because he had marked African American on applications for
the government contract, if he said I'm a black small
(36:08):
business owner, give me loan preference, people would lose their minds.
And I think what this really kind of brings up
is the reason he did this is because his test
scores were not incredible. According to this article, eighty ninth percentile.
It's good to be top ten percent most things. That's
(36:29):
not good enough to be a white or an Asian
kid and get into Columbia. So he was trying to
pretend that he had black background, because the standard to
be admitted if you are black, that would be good
enough to get in. And here is this racial spoil system.
In general, it just has to vanish. It really does
(36:52):
have to once and for all, give up the ghost,
so to speak. If you want to go to these
elite schools and they want to only take kids who
are amazing, right like getting over fifteen hundred, sixteen hundred's
on the SAT thirty four, thirty five, thirty six on
the ACT, great ap scores, good GPAs, all those things.
(37:14):
That's fine, but they should do it on a race
blind level. And if they really want to focus on diversity,
the only diversity that matters is diversity of thought, because
otherwise you have a bunch of people who look different
but think the exact same, which is unfortunately what has
become the case in so many elite institutions out there.
(37:36):
So I think this should be disqualifying. And you can say, okay,
well he was only eighteen years old. I mean, look
at the standard that they put in place for Rachel Dolesol.
Rachel dole was, all, for those of you who don't remember,
was a white woman who was pretending to be black
that I believe ran the Spokane Washington NAACP chapter. They
(37:57):
found out that she was actually just a one white
woman who was somewhat dark skinned and was pretending to
be black, and she was ostracized from popular society, from politics,
from all that world. This guy is clearly trying to
trade on the racial spoil system. The fact that his
(38:18):
middle name is Quame. I guarantee you he got his
SAT Scores and he looked at it and he said,
there's no way, as an Asian or white kid that
I would get in. But my middle name is Quame.
Maybe I can confuse people by clicking African American or black.
Here's the other thing, Buck, and I think this is important.
He wasn't actually African American. He did not become an
(38:42):
American citizen until twenty eighteen. So even if you're going
to give him though, well, he was born in Africa,
so it's fine for him to click African American. We
know what the intent of the racial box there was.
He wasn't even African American, so he actually lied. Now
here's a question for you that I think I hope
people are going to look into. Was he admitted as
(39:04):
a minority to the school that he ultimately went to, Boden, Boden,
which I couldn't even pronounce four fourteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
At Boden, he'd get in. That's that's a that's not
so you think he got in regardless. I mean, I
went to a NESCAC school, so Boden's technically a competitor.
And you know, Boden's not that hard to get into.
Oh snap, the Boden alumni are going to flip out
at the Amherst guy. But sorry, no, it's a very
good school. But he he was. That's the thing, Clay,
Boden is the school you know that this guy would
(39:34):
that's that's the school that he would get into for
on his own merit. He tried to get into Columbia
pulling the I'm Kwame Mamdani Mandani card, right, that's the
now Here's where he may have gotten caught. His dad
was actually a faculty member, so the admission staff may
have looked into this, and I wonder if they rejected
him because they thought that he was lying about usually background.
(39:57):
It actually blew up on him, and it is a
huge deal. That's a huge deal because I know this
from friends of mine who work at universities. I have
a friend who works at Columbia University, for example, don't
want to name them, don't want to get fired for
being friends with me. But his children can go to
Columbia for free, which when you think about that value,
and then on top of that, the unspoken part of
(40:18):
the deal is if your child is even vaguely child,
you know, young adult when they're going to college, if
your kid is vaguely qualified, they are much more likely
to be accepted and they go for free. A huge
These Ivy League schools a huge It's true of all
the Ivys a lot of schools in general, but the
Ivy's for sure a huge benefit to now. I think
(40:39):
it might only be for like tenured professors. There's probably
some you know, I don't know if you're the guy
who's you know, like sweeping the floors of the auditorium,
but maybe I actually don't know. I'm getting beyond my
brief on that. But there's this other story I just
want to remind everybody of from twenty fifteen, I interviewed
this guy, you know, Mindy Kaling, the act Chris slash
(41:00):
comedian from the office. Yes, her brother her brother.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I wondered if he tell this story from people who
the DJ chokol Ingham was his name. He was Indian.
Mindy Kaling is his sister. So she's a famous actress, comedian.
She's from the office. She's the South Asian descent woman
in the office. So you've the one who's like anyway,
you know she is if you've seen the office. He
Clay didn't get into uh he had very mediocre scores,
(41:28):
didn't get into the medical school programs he wanted to.
So he reapplied, shaved his head, uh, I believe change. Yes,
shaved his head, darkened his uh or you know, tried
to like change the photo so he would look darker
in the photo. He tried to appear more black and
(41:51):
changed his name to Jojo And guess what, same score,
same person, all of a sudden getting into top medical
programs across the country and the left when he wrote
a book about it, right, was it a book or
a movie he made about this? It was a website
almost I mean, I'm just telling you what it's called.
Almost black dot com was the website that he launched,
(42:14):
you know, but what it goes to is.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It points out the absurdity he got looked at as
an Indian guy and didn't get in anywhere because he
can I tell you something.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
This is yeah, sorry, yeah, I just this is the amazing.
This is CNN, which is now like about to be
on the trash heap and turned into a channel where
they sell like Swarowsky crystals or something to you Clay
the CNN piece on this, there's little evidence to suggest
that his posturing as a black applicant helped him get
into the following schools.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
There's nothing but evidence he applied, didn't get it anywhere,
says he's black, changes his appearance and gets into a
bunch of schools, and CNN's like, there's no evidence that
being black helped him.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
This was the This was a delusion that we were
all supposed to live in.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Not only that, I mean, I mean the fact that
the if you care about minority advancement, all of these
Indian kids are so successful in America that they're actually
being penalized for being Indian. And same thing is true
of Chinese Japanese.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I mean, we've talked about this before, I think on
the program.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
But do you know the highest earning race and sex
group in America, it's Asian men. Asian men on average
make more money than anyone in America. Okay, so you
have all these young first and second generation immigrants that
want to be doctors, and they're being used their race
against them because there's too many of them doing so great.
(43:42):
This guy pretends to be black, he can suddenly get
in everywhere.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Nigerian American immigrants out earn native American native born American
I should say, yeah, households, yes, so I mean you
go to but substantially they're actually a high earning income.
It's a perfect distillation of the actual lack of racism
that you could come here from Nigeria and immediately become
(44:07):
wealthier than the average person who's been born here. The
fact that people from Nigeria are desperate to get here,
or the fact that people from any part of Africa
or Asia or Latin America destroys the racism argument on
its face. Why would you want to come to a
profoundly racist country. But I actually give credit to that.
(44:28):
I remembered that story because Mindy Kayaling is actually a
super leftist, at least publicly in the way that she
is embraced. Yeah, of course I played. Also the reason
they got upset about this is because it exposed the
absurdity of the whole situation as well as the truth
of it, and the truth of the affirmative action regime
in this country has been that they've been changing standards
(44:49):
for people, primarily people who are black, Native American or Hispanic,
primarily changing it so that they give them a couple
of hundred points equivalent on the SAT and lying about it.
And they've been doing this about forty years, and people
are sick of pretending that this isn't what's been going on.
Our generation is the one that saw it, and it's
all a big lie and we're tired of it.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And also let's also point out doctors, theoretically the people
that you would want to be the smartest and the
best at taking care. We're not talking about somebody getting
a graduate degree in ethics studies or something.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Our docugs, heart surgeons, airline pilots. There's a whole range.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Of fear merit should really really really matter. I don't
know about you, but when I get on an airplane,
I don't care about anything or God forbid, if I
ever need a heart surgery.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Anything about who my guys background or Gal's background is.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
I just want the best. Yeah, we just want the best.
Rapid radios is the best for modern day walkie talkies,
grown up version of the kids toy the radios you
played with back in the day in your neighborhood. But
these things are incredible. Rapid radios operate on a nationwide
LT network, so you can connect with anyone across the
US also carrying a rapid radio, no setup is required.
Just pull them out of the box, press a button
and talk. It's one touch connection. Perfect for busy families.
(46:06):
You can rely on them to keep your kids connected
with you, whether they're out and about or at home.
Rapid radios combine the simplicity of walkie talkies with today's
technology for peace of mind. They're a great part of
your preparation plan as well. Remember they can work when
a lot of other comms are down, so in a
disaster situation, as my own family saw my in laws
saw it, having rapid radios means you can stay connected
(46:28):
and have that instant touch to talk communication ability. So
it's a good thing to have with family members who
are down the road, next town, next state over, so
you can stay in contact even when cell towers start
to go down and things start to get really tough
out there. Rapid radios dot Com. Great for day to day,
great for your preparation plan. Go to rapid radios dot com.
(46:49):
Save up to sixty percent off, get free ups shipping
from Michigan, and use code Radio for an extra five
percent off. That's rapid radios dot Com. Save up to
sixty percent, get free ups shipping, use Code Radio for
an extra five percent off Again rapid radios dot Com
Code Radio. Two guys walk.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Up to a mic. Anything goes Clay Travis and Fuck Sexton.
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
We are joined now by Congressman Chip Roy, who represents
that area of the country. You've been working non stop.
I've seen your social handles. I know you have been
going everywhere. We appreciate the time. Congressman, what can you
tell us about what you've seen the latest?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
What is the situation there on the ground right now?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, well, I mean you said it.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
I mean those numbers that you're talking about in terms
of the total deceased, those numbers keep changing, and they're
changing more rapidly today because the recovery missions are really
starting to catch up and they're finding those who unfortunately perished.
You know, I think there's still a decent number of
unidentified children, but obviously cam't Mystic put out a report
(48:03):
or put out a statement I should say, indicating that
you know that the twenty seven where had either passed
or or they've not been able to find yet. And
this has been what we've sort of known for the
last forty eight hours. But we're holding out hope through
the through the rescue process that we might be able
to find some survivors. But it's truly devastating in that
part of the country. People who are familiar with it
(48:25):
know that it's one of the most beautiful parts.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Of the state.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
There's a reason there are eighteen kids camps in that
area and have been for years. You know, Camp Mystic
was going to turn one hundred years old next year.
I hope they will continue to stay in operation. There
are camps that have been there for generations. People go there.
It's a you know, holiday destination, which is why there
were so many people not just at kids camps, but
(48:48):
at campgrounds. That's why there's the numbers are a lot
higher than just the girls camps. Right, there was people
whose RVs were swept away. I went to a part
of kind of what's called West Kerrville into Ingram before
you get out to Hunt, where all the kids camps are,
and I stood in a spot where there had been
a whole bunch of RVs and they were just gone,
like literally, it's just been swept away. And look, the
(49:10):
response has been great. I don't want to filibuster here,
but the response by the state, the locals, the Feds
has been extraordinary. People on the ground to volunteer outreach,
the people reaching out to give money, give food, give supplies,
show up. There was a line. They had to kind
of shut down the volunteer place yesterday because there was
just too many people. That's a good problem to have.
(49:30):
But you know, this is going to be a long recovery.
So if you want to help, you know, send money,
that's great, but be ready to show up in a
week or two or three.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Right.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
You know, when people start to forget about it, that's
when they're going to need to help the most.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Const and Roy appreciate you being with us. I know
there's a lot going on there, and the whole country's
hearts are broken over the loss of life already to
the degree that you can there's already a lot of
talk about early warning. Should there have been more early warning?
Are there different systems that need to be in place.
I know it's early stage, if you will, in the
(50:04):
after action assessment to understand what might have been able
to be different, what could have been different. What is
your sense of that was there a big miss here
from the perspective of getting the word out with the
proper systems, or was it more this is just a
once in a century event and there was going to
be loss of life just based on the ferocity and
(50:26):
the speed of the floods.
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Look, I think I've been careful not to get too
much into this speculation over the last seventy two hours.
And you guys are asking this question in good faith,
and I appreciate it, and I will give you an
answer to my rough thoughts. But I will just conclude
one thought, which is I'm still getting text messages today
from love from family members, from friends around the state
(50:50):
who are just now discovering the loss of their child.
And we've got people you know that are grieving. I
met with the families night before last who had not
yet seen their kids. I was there with the sheriff
and the city manager and engaging with them about you know,
DNA collections so they can identify their kids. This is
a statement for the rest of the world. It's not
directed at you guys, but everybody that's just zeroing in
(51:14):
on this and politicizing this right out of the bat.
I mean, for the love of everything holy, everything that
is good about our people and this country and this
state is being displayed right now with everybody going to
help people, find people, comfort people, pray for people. The
pictures of those little girls singing hems coming back from
(51:34):
the camp, you know, when they had just lost girls
in their camp and they're singing hems, Christian hems while
they're looking at the damage that I saw yesterday driving
down that stretch of the river. So that's just a
message to the world, like to slow your political role.
Goodness gracious now on the question, because it is a
relevant question. One, we're going to have to figure this
(51:55):
out over time, Okay, nobody knows for sure right now.
Two the sense of it is more the latter of
your question. This was a once in a century type
of kind of flood. It has flooded before nineteen eighty seven,
previous times. It is prone to flash flooding. Therefore, number three, yes,
they probably need a better warning system, sirens, other types
(52:18):
of things. But we will go through that process going forward,
the local official, state officials, and we'll be looking at
it obviously federally, although it's not really I think, our
direct purview. But I think those things are all true.
This nonsense about the Weather Service, that's crap. They had
people there, they were putting out warnings. People knew they
were going to be flash floods. The only question is
(52:39):
is trying to determine the severity of it, Which brings
me to my last point five, which is there is bureaucracy.
There are systems that are old. We could have better technology,
we could have better predictions, We can have less bureaucracy
and communicating it. But just keep in mind this final point.
It was four am on July fourth, in the dark
(53:01):
in the hill country, way out away from civilization, when
a massive, unprecedented flood drove into basically a canyon area
where water got fuddled down the river and it rows
thirty feet in.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Less than an hour. That's what happened.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
So we can try to protect against it, and we
can do better, and we should, but let's try to
keep perspective in all of this. And I mean that respectfully.
I think your question was absolutely in good good faith
and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Chip.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Everybody who is in this area knows Camp Mystic. It
feels like we're coming up on one hundred years. I
think next year is supposed to be one hundredth anniversary
of this. What is camp Mystic?
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
What does it mean for people in your district who
may not be familiar with it but are learning now
because unfortunately, so many of these young kids appear to
have been victims based on being located there.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Well, I mean, just to give you a couple of
data points. Number One, night before last, when I was
with all those families, there's a woman there named Mary
Liz Eastland. She lost her father in law, Dick Eastland,
who was the older man who bought that camp in
the nineteen seventies, in nineteen seventy three, who died on
the night of the event trying to save little girls.
(54:18):
So she has just lost her father in law. She's
with these families who had just lost their kids, So
you can imagine the tension there. But they showed up
to shelter each.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Other in love.
Speaker 7 (54:28):
And the amount of support and outpouring that's been coming
out because the families who have gone there for years.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It's a part of the culture here.
Speaker 7 (54:35):
My kids go to a classical Christian school. A large
chunk of the kids that go to their school go
to Camp Mystic or have been to Camp Mystic. They
had friends who were there. In this particular week, we
had a little girl from our school who was saved,
you know, praised the Lord, she was saved. She was
kind of floating in the river for a couple of hours.
And we've had other stories like that. But we've also
(54:56):
had stories of people we know, friends of ours. One
of my staffers, Fraturney, brought his daughter was lost. One
of the people I used to work and who I
hired in the Senator Cruise's office her daughter's best friend.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
She passed away.
Speaker 7 (55:09):
I had a local jeweler who talked to James Avery
they lost one of their loved ones. The Kansas City
Chiefs family lost the loved one. It's hitting everybody but
it's a great historic camp. And one last thing is
one of my staffers, you know, worked there and talked
about what a great man Dick Eastland was teaching him
fly fishing and all the ways of life. This morning
my office we got a fellow staffer from another Texas
(55:32):
office who sent us a box of cookies and it said,
at camp Mystic Tweety, who was mister Eastland's wife, she's
still alive. She made cookies and they were given to
campers as a reward for hard work. And they sent
us cookies because my staff has been working around the
clock for the last three days.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Congress and Roy, is there anything that can be done
by this audience, by people listening. We have a lot
of people who are right in your area. By the way,
we're probably ten minute drive from or in the county
or ten minute drive from the county line. But anything
nationwide as well, if that can be done to just
to assist to help. Are there organizations that are doing
(56:14):
a lot of frontline work that could use support. We
just want to put that out there.
Speaker 7 (56:18):
Yeah, I mean, there's obviously there's a lot of great
work going on. There's a community foundation in the Hill Country,
that is collecting a lot of money and then a
lot of food places and so forth. Volunteers can sign
up online at it's called tcr dot community os dot org.
You can find that if you look or call eight
(56:39):
three zero four six five four seven nine seven for
volunteers to sign up. There are places to be able
to give money. That stuff's all going to be out
and if you want to know, just go to my
Twitter at Chiproy t X c h I p R
o I t X or Rep Chiproy and I will
be putting all of that out with graphics and places
where people can give.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
And my biggest ask is we've got.
Speaker 7 (57:02):
Everybody wanting to come in right now, and I get it,
and God bless you for it, but it's hard, right
We can't take everybody in everything right now. This is
going to be a multi week thing. So if you can,
you know, volunteer or contribute or engage, you know next week,
you know in a month, they're going to need it,
and so everything. We'll take everything whenever we can, but
(57:22):
just just know they're going to need it for a while.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Last thing that I want, I appreciate you coming on
with us. I know how many hours you're working, and
how many places you are right now we're talking to
Congressman Chip Roy. Unfortunately, it looks like one hundred or
more people are going to lose their lives. How many
thousands of lives do you think first responders and good
people just on the ground there saved because a lot
(57:47):
of those stories are going to be coming out too,
and the amount of life that was saved, I think
in the people who put their lives on the line
to do that, there's going to be some incredible stories.
What are you already hearing about that?
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (58:02):
I mean looks it does look like tragically we're going
to lose about twenty five of these precious kids and mostly,
if not entirely, little girls. But there were about nine
hundred or so campers in that whole region across those
eighteen camps, and we got out, you know, eight hundred
and fifty eight hundred and seventy of those kids and
most of the counselors and directors. But there's heroic stories.
(58:24):
A camp director who lost her life saving I think
five of those little kids herself, and she was a
member of the local church I met.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
The pastor of that church is randomly.
Speaker 7 (58:33):
When I was down at the lake, and like, this
is the community, that's part of our family, right when
I go down to that park.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
I was going to be there for Fourth of July.
That was the plan.
Speaker 7 (58:41):
I go there every year to go listen to Robert 'keane.
He's one of my favorite Texas country artists. Guy named
William Beckman got down all the time to listen to
these guys, and it's just a place everybody goes, you know.
There were great stories, Like I said, Dick Eastland, he
died trying to save three little girls at four or
five six in the morning when those floods were running
(59:03):
through there. And I cannot explain enough for the average
viewer how fast that water rose, like the extent twitch
going up twenty six.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
To thirty feet in about an hour, hour and a half.
You can't put into words.
Speaker 7 (59:15):
There was a guy who lost two daughters, not as
part of the camp. He was just in a house
down on vacation and they were in the house and
they said the water was rising a foot per minute
and it just boom, it just came in. So that's
what people were dealing with. But there's been a lot
of heroic stories, a lot of people who save lives.
Coast Guard guy that basically helped evacuate about two hundred
(59:38):
of the campers, and so many different stories like that,
and we're just deeply appreciate of everybody who's been engaging
and helping.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
Well.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Congress Nroy, Our hearts and prayers thoughts go to the
people of Texas Hill Country and the great state of
Texas overall, and we'll let you get back to attending
to all of them, and thank you for making the
time today.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
I appreciate you, guys. God bless you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Looking out for the lives of unborn children in the
womb is Preborn's highest priority and they are doing everything
they can day in and day out to save lives.
Last year, Preborn made it possible for more than sixty
five thousand unborn children who come into this world. They
start this process with a free ultrasound for moms who
are making that critical decision a lot of times with pressure,
(01:00:23):
a lot of times people telling them, oh, you shouldn't
go through with this, and Preborn says, no, come in.
We will welcome you with open arms, no judgment, and
we want to give you a free ultrasound so you
can meet your baby, and that begins this process that
so often, with Preborn's help, leads to a little baby
boy or girl coming into this world. Preborn operates clinics
in communities where they know that abortion rates are the highest,
(01:00:45):
so they can be on the front lines right there,
saving tiny babies each and every day. That ultrasound is
so critical in this process. And you can donate twenty
eight dollars knowing that that will give an ultrasound to
an who is making that critical decision today. A twenty
eight dollars expense per ultrasound is all it takes. Some
(01:01:06):
of you can donate one hundred. Some of you can
donate one thousand dollars because it's something that matters to
so many of us in the pro life community. And
you are fortunate enough to be able to donate twenty
eight dollars per ultrasound for preborn Please consider it today.
Dial pound two point fifty and say the keyword baby.
That's pound two five zero, Say baby, or go to
(01:01:27):
preborn dot com, slash buck preborn dot com slash b
u c K sponsored by Preborn News.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
You can count on and some laughs too. Clay Travis
at Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Jesse Kelly Tears It Up Week nine six to nine
on seven ten wo R.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Since nine to eleven, the Tunnel the Towers Foundation has
been supporting America's greatest heroes and their families. Heroes like
Mark Holbert. He was born into a military family. Mark's
father served for twenty five years and his grandfather fought
in World War Two. Mark turned his childhood dream of
serving into a reality when he enlisted in the United
States Army. He served multiple tours, including three in Afghanistan.
(01:02:16):
On his fourth tour, he stepped on an ied He
lost two of his fingers and both of his legs.
The Tunnel to Towers Foundation provided Mark and his family
with a mortgage free smart home, which enables Mark to
live more independently. Mark and so many others have paid
a high price to protect our country and communities. Friends
like you of help to say thank you to Mark
and so many others, not just with words, but through actions.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Help even more of America's heroes like Mark by supporting
Tunnel to Towers. Join us in donating eleven dollars a
month to tunnel to towers at T two t dot org.
That's tea the number two T dot org.
Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Feeling drained, foggy, are just not yourself. This could be
the effects of low testosterone levels. Henry Men's as you
covered it, stops on replacement therapy or TRT is available
in pills, injectable or daily cream.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Gravis and Buck Sexton show on seven to ten wor.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, we just
talked to Congressman Roy to get a real up to
date sense of everything going on in the Hill Country
of Texas after those terrible floods, and I said, we're watching,
We're monitoring this conversation in the background that's trying to
politicize this and trying to avoid spending too much time
on it, but it is happening. There are people out there.
(01:03:42):
There's usual lunatic chirping online about climate change denial and
stuff like that, but White House Press Secretary of Caroline
Levitt just in the last hour also wanted to bring
out there that these the attempts to attack I think
that there's a once in a century flood. We just
had a Congressman from the district Ome We've had people
calling in live there once in a century flood, Clay,
(01:04:02):
And there are people that are saying it's Trump's fault.
I mean that they're already going out there, Oh it's Trump,
the cuts, or there's something they're so desperate to somehow
take this tragedy and score political points. And the White
House Press Secretary, this is thirty three not having it
play it.
Speaker 9 (01:04:17):
These offices were fully staffed. The San Angelo office was
fully staffed with twelve forecast meteorologists. There were no vacancies.
The San Antonio Offices office was operating with eleven forecasters,
and as Brian said, the Union themselves said that there
was adequate staffing. So I think those words speak for themselves,
and the numbers speak for themselves. This was a once
(01:04:38):
in a century flash flood, a tragic natural disaster, and
the administration is doing all that we can on the
ground to help these families during this time of need.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I just you can't let the can't let the media
lies go on, unresponded to Clay. Yeah, I think that's important,
and we come back, we'll talk a little bit more
about this, because I do think it matters for the
facts to be out there.
Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
But anybody who's lived through tornadoes, floods, blaming hurricanes, blaming
the president or congressmen or the people, god forbid who
are the victims in the immediate aftermath is wrong. Expecting
for the government to do a good job on taking
care of people with FEMA in the aftermath those things,
(01:05:22):
that's very valid.
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Okay, So I think.
Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
There is a line where you say, hey, the fires
in Los Angeles are burning, man, that wildfire.
Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Man, that stinks.
Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Hey, how about we put them out right? Most of
the focus should be on the cleanup and the response
to the disaster, not the idea that somehow this was
going to happen. Look, if Joe Biden were president, I
think the same number of people sadly would have died
Kamala Harris, same number of people would have died as
died with Trump in office. Trying to make this political
(01:05:54):
is profoundly unfair.
Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
You know, the Trump administration is very focused on improving
our com I getting a lot of growth going, and
that affects your buying power and good ways. But as
we know, they can't consider your own personal finances when
they're trying to do what's right for the country. That's
on you. You need to take smart action for yourself
and your future today and looking after your savings via diversification.
(01:06:17):
When we have thirty seven trillion in debt that's only
going up, it makes sense buying gold from Birch Gold
Group is what I recommend. In the past year alone,
gold has increased forty percent in value, and central banks
from countries around the world are buying up gold left
and right in record quantities. Birch Gold makes owning physical
(01:06:39):
gold extremely easy. I own gold. You can too. But
Birch Gold can also convert an existing IRA or four
one can into a tax sheltered IRA. Text my name
Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Get in
touch with Birch Gold Text buck to ninety eight ninety
eight ninety eight Today
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show News
Hosts And Creators
Clay Travis
Buck Sexton
Show Links
WebsiteNewsletterPopular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.