July 20, 2025 • 27 mins
The Rock movie begs the question, can Clay swim Alcatraz? Clay & Buck podcast host David “Rut” Rutherford weighs in. Clay recalls the time he was almost eaten by a shark and lost his pants.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Trump's truth about reopening Alcatraz as a prison. It's already open, Clay,
You've been right.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So I was just there like a month ago, remember,
because that's when I watched the great film The Rock
with my junior in high school. We were out in
San Francisco, we toured Alcatraz. We'll get into the Rock
in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But yeah, my friend Dave Dave Rutherford, who is a
former Navy Seal, has sent us a talk back about
this little controversy in that movie because the Seals just
get wiped out by the Marines. I'm sure the Marines
all laugh about this one and they're like, ah, look
at the Seals. But the Seals did not have a
good showing in The Rock, which is the most absurd
movie and e of us I think have ever. I
(00:58):
loved it, though I'm entertaining I'm not going in with
a historical accuracy or the analysis of the gun battles
which I'm sure the Seals are not happy about. I
think the idea of a group of Navy seals deciding
to take over chemical weapons sorry if you spoiler alert here,
deciding to steal chemical weapons and takeover and island the
(01:21):
Marines for steal it. The Seals try to take the
island back. So the Seals are the good guys in
this movie. The marines'lay clay. Sorry, sorry my bad. They
got the Seals get wiped out, yeah by the marine
fast spoiler alert. Yeah, because we're used to this. Usually
when the Seals appear in the movie, it's like the
cavalry arrives. You're not used to the Seals getting all
(01:42):
wiped out without taking out a single bad guy. So
that's the one part of The Rock Man. So anyway,
Dave Rutt is a former steal he'll weigh in. We'll
have some fun on that. I do. By the way,
this is not a Grumpy Buck moment. I do think
The Rock is a great watch. It is just absolutely
preposterous top to bottom. And it's kind of a stealth
James Bond movie too because of the seawning. But another
big moment from Trump from his Truth social account rebuild
(02:07):
and open Alcatraz all caps. For too long, America has
been plagued by vicious, violent, and repeat criminal offenders, the
dregs of society who will never contribute anything other than
misery and suffering. When we were a more serious nation
in times past, we did not hesitate to lock up
the most dangerous criminals and keep them far away from
(02:28):
anyone they could harm. That's the way it's supposed to be.
No longer will we tolerate these serial offenders who spread filth, bloodshed,
and mayhem on our streets. That is why today I
am directing the Bureau of Prisons, together the Department of Justice, FBI,
at Homeland Security Security to reopen a substantially enlarged and
rebuilt Alcatraz to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders.
(02:54):
We will no longer be held hostas or criminals, thugs
and judges who are afraid to do their job and
allow us to remove criminals who came into our country illegally.
The reopening of Alcatraz will serve as a symbol of law, order,
and justice. We will make America great again. Okay, so
(03:15):
do we think that Alcatraz is I feel like this
would take im.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I am behind almost every Trump idea and this is
very funny. I just toured Alcatraz.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I have.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Look, there are some things that he tosses out that see.
I know he doesn't drink, but this is like Clay
Travis three am at the bar, you know. And we
should open up Alcatraz again too. We should walk violent
dangerous criminals up Alcatraz. I just toured it. Alcatraz would
(03:51):
need a lot, a lot of work in order to
be rehabilitated as a prison. And it isn't even that
big of a prison, so you can't even fit that
many people there and three.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Hundred people at its peak right in this steam.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But we're talking about I don't think you could put
people in the jail cells that they put them in
Alcatraz back in the day, Like you couldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I don't. I've been taking tour guide tour guide Clay Tay, Like,
what is it like when you saw this compared to
what you thought of? First of all, we'll talk about
the rock in a second. The rock is the most
famous Alcatraz pop culture content of all time, no question.
Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage, I think it might be Nicholas
Cage's best movie. But okay, so what was it like
when you actually saw it?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So it is mostly run down, decrepit, right, They haven't
had any prisoners there since nineteen sixty three. It is
not very big. The parts that you can tour, which
is basically the whole thing, the gel cells are tiny,
so I don't think that you could in a modern
(04:58):
era put someone inside of those. I also don't think
that they would be anywhere near maximum security level prison today, right, Like,
this is a very old prison that is in no
way kept up with the historic standards of security that
would have existed over the last sixty years. It is
(05:23):
also they used to have like all the wardens there.
In fact, the woman one of the women who grew
up there. I mean, they had a school. It's a
very fascinating tour. I would encourage anybody who is in
San Francisco to get on the boat. It's not very far.
It's a gorgeous tour on the bay. I took my
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seventeen year old out there when we were in San
Francisco for a couple of days. But I think it
is impossible into a prison. I think you could I
mean it's like a mile out, so I mean fifteen
to twenty minutes probably on the boat quick. But and
you could get there even quicker if you you know,
depending on what size boat you had.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So it is you know that two people actually escaped
from Alcatraz. Their bodies though were never found. They were
I think it was three because I was just there.
Three guys. They have no idea?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
What?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Three guys, Yes, three guys. This is when you just
have to guide clay to or guide clay. And also
because as everyone does, you're like, hey, do you think
they made it and they never found their bodies? Do
you think they made it, got to the mainland and
just vanished because.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
They never wanted to be found again?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Or did they die?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Uh? You can swim it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
My son did not believe me when I said I
thought I'm not a very good swimmer.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I was about to ask do you think you could
swim it? And how much money would someone have to
pay you? There are very large great white sharks in
the San Francisco Bay just throwing that well.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
They also do a yearly race. I think escape from Alcatraz.
I think Riley Gaines from OutKick and does a lot
of Fox News. I think she swam it.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
She was a college swim, so she's pretty good. But
I think there are hundreds of people that get in
there and swim. I think I could make it. My
wife said I would drown, but I think, uh, thanks,
thanks Laura. Yeah, I think I could make it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What I don't know is how the currents work, which
would work against me obviously, Like does it continue to
push you back out and or in what direction? Because
or backwards? Could you go to Sace Alito in the
other direction I think, or would you just flounder out
there for a long time. It probably doesn't surprise anybody that,
even though I'm not a great swimmer, that I think
(07:37):
I could make the swim. I think, and this could
be a really poor a really poor choice. I don't
think there's actually that many sharks in the bay. I
think they have oversold the shark infested nature of the bay.
Now there are tons of seals, and the seals now
come up on Peer thirty two, which is very cool.
(07:58):
But I don't think your odds have actually getting eaten
by a shark would be very high. I think you
would far more likely to drown if people swim well.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The odds are the odds are never high clay. But
when you're sucking in some salt water and splashing through
some waves and get a little cold and realize you've
got another like forty minutes of swimming ahead of you,
and it's you know that, Then all of a sudden
you start what do those sharks eat? I'm sure they
I think they eat the big fat seals.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But there are people I didn't realize this. There are
people every morning that go down and swim lots of
laps in the San Francisco Bay. I mean they swim
all over the place in the every day year round
because they say, you know, it's like a cold plunge,
it toughens them up. And maybe it does. But I
think I could make it. I think most people would drown.
(08:44):
I'm not a great swimmer, but I've never come close
to drowning. I think it would be like the little
engine that could. I would just keep going and eventually
I would make it to land.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I love your confidence. One guy who knows nothing about
cold swimming and seals is our friend Dave Rutherford, former
Navy seal who who is on the clay and buck
podcast network. You should check out the Dave Rutherford show.
He's uh, he's getting so many people tuning in and
listening every week. It's growing. But I asked Hi about
this because that was always the thing that bothered me
about Now there's a lot of implausible stuff, but I
(09:13):
don't care. I love The Rock. It's a great movie.
But if you've seen it's the only movie I've ever
seen where a seal team comes in like the cavalry
has arrived and they get completely wiped out. I don't think.
I don't think they take out like a single bad
guy too. I asked rud if he would weigh in
on the depiction of the seals in uh in The
Rock the movie, and he gave us a talkback play
(09:34):
twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Okay, clay Buck, allow me to jump in on this
rock dispute a little bit and listen. I absolutely love
that movie. I mean Nick Cage and Double O seven,
I mean the prom queen comment one of the funniest ever.
Absolutely loved it. You know, But here's the deal. There
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is no way that master Chief Denny Chalker of four
former Plank owner of Sealed Team six or or instructor
hass both of which who were instructors of mine in
the nineties when this thing came out. There is no
way that they would allow that operational fiasco to take place.
It's just not gonna happen right now. Don't get me wrong.
(10:18):
I love my Marine Corps brothers. I love that they
eat crams for a living, but there is just no
way in hell that those cats would have gotten the
jump on a sealed team platoon of that level in
that situation. It just ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Who Yah, I'm just saying they're not all you mean,
they're not all gonna, one by one slowly crawl into
a like a bathroom with an elevated platform around it
and meant for people to ambush them.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, I'm just you know, let's give the seal some
credit here.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was Ed Harris's finest role. It's one of Sean Connery.
I know he was James Bond, but Sean Connery is
incredible in them movie, and obviously Nicholas Cage is pretty extraordinary.
I mean I watched it. For those of you out there,
I think it came out in nineteen ninety five, ish,
I watched it because it was on paper that smart
(11:13):
move by the San Francisco Hotel, because we came back
from Alcatraz. Back in the hotel room that night, I'm
telling my son, hey, there's a great action movie made
about Alcatraz called The Rock. He has no idea what
I'm talking about. Sit down, start scrolling through the available movies.
That night, at you know, nine o'clock or whatever it was, boom,
The Rock is available for rent. I might be the
(11:34):
only person who's paid fifteen dollars to watch The Rock
in the last decade. But we watched it. He loved it.
My junior in high school had no idea. He was like,
this is so good.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I was like, I thought you would like it. Yeah,
they don't make movies like that anymore. It was a great,
great flick. I really enjoyed it. And if any of
you haven't seen it, certainly I couldn't. I didn't realize
Cary had never seen Commando, so you never know. If
any of you haven't seen the it's certainly worth and
it's a great rewatch as well, Like if you've seen
it one hundred times, it's a lot of fun. But
let me let me ask, you know, getting back to
(12:06):
policy in the news here for a second. So what
happens Trump is the president, he tells Bureau of Prisons
to reopen this. What happens now, Like, really, what happens now?
Do they start to try to think about how they
could do this?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
First of all, it would take I bet seven or
eight years to retro fit. So if Trump is not
going to be president, when it would be done, I
don't know. I mean, I think it's a National Park
Service site. Have I presume that the president has executive
authority to change the way that it's classified.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But what would happen? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Like if Trump just came out and he was like, Hey,
you know, we're going to put a prison at Gettysburg Battlefield,
I don't know. Does the president have the authority to
alter a national historic site? I think it would probably,
like almost everything Trump tries to do, probably go to
court because I would think the people of San Francisco.
It's one of the most iconic tourist attractions in San Francisco,
(13:04):
and I think they would probably argue that it has
more value to them now as a tourist attraction than
it would as a prison. To say nothing of again,
there is you basically would have to raise, tear down
the entire prison structure, and build a brand new prison
in order to be able to hold anybody.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And the Bureau of Prisons has already been asked about
this and their response is we comply with all presidential orders.
So I mean that is the official Bureau of Prison
of Bureau of Prisons respond so far as I'm seeing
here to Trump saying this, which which makes sense, he
is the president and he has said do this, So
(13:46):
I guess they're going.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
To be really, really funny. I don't know how this
is going to play out. And I can't imagine it
being safe to put a prisoner there because you don't
want them to escape. I can't imagine it being very
easy to rehab and put a prisoner there. So that
is interesting in and of itself. Sunday hang with Clay
(14:08):
and Buck. Riley gains. Ali has confirmed that she made
the swim, and I asked, Ali, do you want to
just come in? Is this you who's been texting with
Riley to see whether or not she thought I would die?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yes, I was messaging her while you guys were talking
about it, and what did.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
She say here she did swim it. I was correct,
and I remember seeing that she had posted about swimming it.
She swam it, ironically, Buck with Navy seals.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, it wasn't an organized race, but she's swam it
and she's planning on doing it again this July. As
to whether you could make it, she said diplomatically, anything
less than a proficient swimmer probably wouldn't make it. Incredibly cold,
very wavy, big currents.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Clay, I smell a challenge, buddy, I smell a challenge.
I think we got to do the Clay Travis Annual
Cold Plunge. Here we raise money for charity. You know,
maybe we get like krock of coffee to sponsor it.
I like where we're going with. Also, I will wait
for you on shore with a hot cup of tea.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Right. Also added that she's not scared of sharks, and
she had a pod of dolphins swimming beside her, which
was an indicator the sharks would stay away.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I feel, well, why is that? But the dolphins will
chase away the sharks. Yeah, dolphins will. Dolphins will mess
up sharks generally speaking, especially even in a great white.
The way I see this going, Buck, is either I'll
be eaten by a shark, or I'll drown, or I'll
have to get rescued by one of the nave maybe seals,
which would immediately go megaviral me getting dragged out of
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the water near death. But I probably hypothermia too. I
do feel like I could do it. I'm not a
very good swimmer. I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I mean, would you would? You'd be a breaststroke guy, right,
I mean that's what.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You go with, Like, Well, certainly I think that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I walked into that one.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I mean, come on, I I don't think. I don't
even know what a proficient swimmer would be, Like, what
does that mean? Because she's a college swimmer, Like, proficient
swimmer meaning you can swim.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Probably a better swimmer than she guesses you are. She
was trying to be nice.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I think I'm I think I would make it
because I think I have the indomitable will of a
swim champion, but I do not have the skills of
an elite swim champion. But I think I would just
refuse to stop. I think I would just keep going
and eventually I would find the land. Now, my one
concern here, in addition to the sharks and the drowning
(16:42):
is the current? Are are you getting constantly pushed back
and order and just kind of floundering and not making
any progress? That would be my concern is like that,
it's really hard to cut through the current. Well, I
was gonna say, I just you know, Clay, you I'll
make sure that when we do this annual Clay Alcatraz swim,
(17:04):
I'll be back at the San Francisco Hotel on the
hot tub, you know, and I'll be checking my phone
for updates on You'll be like Sean Connery if you remember,
went to the I think the Fountain Blue whatever, the
fanciest hotel was in San Francisco. That's where he made
him take him when they bailed him out of jail.
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I'm just laughing people, Jesse Kelly. In addition to Riley
who now says that I have to come to San
Francisco and attempt to swim, she says, they go out
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with a boat, they drop us off.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Kayaks are there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I asked if there was somebody who could rescue me
if I started to drown, and Jesse Kelly has waged
in and said, uh, what did he say? Don't listen
to the haters, Clay, you can do this and you
should absolutely try, which is a very good thought.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
One thing I'm thinking, Buck, Can you imagine if I
put a live webcam on like my head, like my forehead,
and you had a live vision of me attempting, you
probably hear it too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And we could be honest something. Just think of all
the money we could raise for punnelty towers, or we
had a lot of money for a really good cause.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You know, I will say, if I made the swim,
I think Trump might have to revoke his idea of
turning Alcatraz into a prison, because it's supposed to be unescapable, right.
If a fat, out of shape person like me can
swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco Bay, then I think
the three guys that vanished they made the swim, and
(18:47):
I think he would have to rescind his decision to
try to turn it into a prison. In addition to
the fact that we potentially could raise a lot of
money for charity. I also think that I could prove
that it is not an inescapable prison if I made
it now, if I drowned, then maybe Trump would be like, hey,
we're you know, We're going to reopen Alcatraz and one
of the jail cells will name after Clay. This will
(19:09):
be the Travis Wing of Alcatraz Island in honor of
his untimely death. I will say, groc A bunch of
you have been sharing this. It is a myth, and
this is inevitably going to blow up in my faith
because I'm gonna get eaten by a shark if I
try to do this. But and then this will go
megaviral and this will be the only thing people remember
(19:29):
from my entire life. It is a myth so far
that lots of people are getting eaten by sharks in
San Francisco Bay. In fact, it's never happened now. Also,
there's not a lot of people, to be fair, who
are in the water on a regular basis. I would
imagine in the San Francisco Bay area because the water
is cold and the beaches are not particularly fabulous. But
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it has never occurred in San Francisco Bay that someone
has been eaten by a shark. Kara from Kentucky has
a talkback. Kara BB, what have we got here, Clay.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
I think you're great, but I think you're way over
confident when it comes to your swimming ability. Swimming is
a tough sport. My son's high school team has won
the state championship here in Kentucky for the past thirty
plus years. I'd like to invite you to come to
one of his practices. If you could make it through that,
you'll have my vote for Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I think I could make it through.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The problem is I would be like me going to
a elite high school team's practice. I mean, I would
have to be there for like eight hours because they're
going to do twenty laps or whatever, and it's going
to take them like three and a half minutes, and
then it takes me an hour. So I just I
don't think. I do not think I would drown. I
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think I could always stay above the water, and I
think if I could stay above the water long enough,
eventually I would get to shore. Now, the one part
of the calculate here that I'm not confident about is
what are the currents like? In other words, like, would
it sweep me further out? But the bay is not
(21:10):
that big, so I would think it would sweep me
from one side to the other. In other words, surely
I would hit land at some point, or one of
the buoys underneath the Golden Gate Bridge, which is way
far away, or the Bay Bridge, which is also far away,
because I don't want to go out to open water.
But you're in the bay, So I just think at
some point if you just stayed upright, eventually you would
(21:33):
maybe die of hypothermia. But if you didn't die of hypothermia,
I think you would end up on land. I mean,
bottles that get thrown into the ocean eventually end up
on land. You just got to not drown in the meantime.
And I don't think I would drown. I think I
could stay above the water. How much confidence do you
(21:54):
have that I could make it? How much would you have?
You just said, we have to raise the amount of
money we're willing to pay the guys to fly, like
a thousand dollars we our friend Gurdusky said they're offering
thirty five thousand dollars in Sweden. How much odd what
odds would you have to get for me to be
able to make it not to be rescued ten to one.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
This is it's a mile. Is that right? It's a
mile swim total? I think, so, yeah, that's not that's
not that bad. I mean, the Statue of Liberty is
two miles from Manhattan, so that's that's considerably more.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I mean, do people swim back and forth in the
Statue of Liberty? Is that what will Caine and Hegseth did?
Was that the Navy seal swim they did?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah? Yeah, no, you look, you you'd make it. The
only thing I might get you would be the I think,
either the currents or the cold. The shark thing is
just it's just a thing in your head to scare you.
Uh but yeah, which obviously.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Which would by the way, work because when you're like
halfway back and you're a long way from the shore,
you're definitely gonna be expecting to get eaten by a shark.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
The funny thing about about all I've spent like way
too much time. I think a lot of us have
different fascinations with with scary scary things. We're kids or whatever,
and sharks is something I've read a lot of shark
attacks something I've read a lot about when I was
a kid. You know what's interesting is that your right, Statistically,
you're you're very, very safe from shark attack. However, sharks
(23:16):
are far more present around people than they ever realize,
and now because of drone technology, people are starting to
see that. Oh yeah, that's right. There's a lot of
times where there's a you know, one hundred people be
at a beach, they're all in the ocean, splash around,
having a great time, and just beyond the surf break
about you know, thirty forty yards, it'll be some big
tiger sharks or something swimming around out there. So sharks
(23:36):
are much more present in the environment than a lot
than we realize because you generally don't see them, right,
You generally have no idea. So that's kind of a
funny thing, Right, on the one hand, we were more
scared of them than we should be, But the other hand,
they're far more present than we recognize them to be.
Have I told you my shark story?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Have I told this this audience of the shark story?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
This is I don't know. We got to talk about
the economy, Clay, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Economy, Jeffy far When I and Trump's got it. I
was seventh grade, Panama City Beach Church mission trip, Panama
City Beach, nineteen ninety. Not a very nice place. This
is like a bunker that we're staying in for the
church retreat. We have a jet ski rented. It's like
(24:24):
a nineteen year old kid with a jet ski who
was like one of the chaperones. He's taking us out
one at a time on the jet ski and we
get out on the jet ski and jet ski's back
in like nineteen ninety used to tip over all the time,
and it was really hard back in the day to
get back on a jet ski. Now it's actually comparatively easy.
(24:45):
They maintain and hold itself. Well two of us, it
was very difficult. So he's back on and suddenly this
light guard comes roaring up on his own jet ski
and he says, everybody off the beach. We've spotted tiger
sharks in the area. One hundred per century. Seventh grade
weighs out on the ocean jet ski, Panama City Beach,
(25:08):
and the guy who is the nineteen year old is like, hey,
we can't get back up because we keep tipping over.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So he's on.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
He says, I'll just drag you in, says, I will
drag you back into the shallows. We got to make
sure you don't get eaten by a tiger Sharky, this
is maybe the greatest bait that's ever existed for tiger shark.
I'm hanging on to the back of the jet ski.
The exhaust is just pouring, you know, right in my face.
I'm twelve, and as it's pouring off buck my swimsuit
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comes off. So the whole beach covered with like twelve
and thirteen year old girls and I am hitting the waves,
mooning the entirety of Panama City Beach, Florida. This would
have gone certainly megaviral in the day when everybody has
their well I guess maybe not because I was like.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
A shark like shark repellant. This is good. The shark's
not going to mess with you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Now I'm thinking to myself, all these cute girls are
on the beach, and now I'm naked, and I'm also
going to get eaten by a shark. This is maybe
the worst way for a twelve or thirteen year old
boy to go out ever in the history of mankind.
I get and by the way, by the grace of God,
I managed to hook my bathing suit on my right ankle,
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so the webbing of the bathing suit, so I managed
to hang on to that for dear life. On the
right ankle, I get dropped off, and uh and I'm like,
you know, naked in the water trying to get my
swimsuit on, and everybody's panicked on the beach because there's
tiger sharks. Everybody is fleeing the beach and somehow I
(26:46):
have managed to create this huge scene.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
People are expecting me to get it eaten.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So I've been, you know, kind of in fear of
sharks even more so ever since that day.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So I think, you know, after having overcome that that story,
I think that you definitely have to do the Alcatraz
swim just for your your own dignity, you know. I
feel like, well, a.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Wet suit's harder to get ripped off, I would think.
So if I'm in a wet suit, I think I
would be okay. But that's a true story.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
If you're listening right now, and you were on Panama
City Beach in June of nineteen ninety or so, and
you saw a kid mooning the whole beach, that was me.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now you're listening to me on the radio. So I survived.
That is probably a story that you didn't expect to
hear today. Buck when you started off, when.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
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Trump's truth about reopening Alcatraz as a prison. It's already open, Clay,
You've been right.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So I was just there like a month ago, remember,
because that's when I watched the great film The Rock
with my junior in high school. We were out in
San Francisco, we toured Alcatraz. We'll get into the Rock
in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But yeah, my friend Dave Dave Rutherford, who is a
former Navy Seal, has sent us a talk back about
this little controversy in that movie because the Seals just
get wiped out by the Marines. I'm sure the Marines
all laugh about this one and they're like, ah, look
at the Seals. But the Seals did not have a
good showing in The Rock, which is the most absurd
movie and e of us I think have ever. I
(00:58):
loved it, though I'm entertaining I'm not going in with
a historical accuracy or the analysis of the gun battles
which I'm sure the Seals are not happy about. I
think the idea of a group of Navy seals deciding
to take over chemical weapons sorry if you spoiler alert here,
deciding to steal chemical weapons and takeover and island the
(01:21):
Marines for steal it. The Seals try to take the
island back. So the Seals are the good guys in
this movie. The marines'lay clay. Sorry, sorry my bad. They
got the Seals get wiped out, yeah by the marine
fast spoiler alert. Yeah, because we're used to this. Usually
when the Seals appear in the movie, it's like the
cavalry arrives. You're not used to the Seals getting all
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wiped out without taking out a single bad guy. So
that's the one part of The Rock Man. So anyway,
Dave Rutt is a former steal he'll weigh in. We'll
have some fun on that. I do. By the way,
this is not a Grumpy Buck moment. I do think
The Rock is a great watch. It is just absolutely
preposterous top to bottom. And it's kind of a stealth
James Bond movie too because of the seawning. But another
big moment from Trump from his Truth social account rebuild
(02:07):
and open Alcatraz all caps. For too long, America has
been plagued by vicious, violent, and repeat criminal offenders, the
dregs of society who will never contribute anything other than
misery and suffering. When we were a more serious nation
in times past, we did not hesitate to lock up
the most dangerous criminals and keep them far away from
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anyone they could harm. That's the way it's supposed to be.
No longer will we tolerate these serial offenders who spread filth, bloodshed,
and mayhem on our streets. That is why today I
am directing the Bureau of Prisons, together the Department of Justice, FBI,
at Homeland Security Security to reopen a substantially enlarged and
rebuilt Alcatraz to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders.
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We will no longer be held hostas or criminals, thugs
and judges who are afraid to do their job and
allow us to remove criminals who came into our country illegally.
The reopening of Alcatraz will serve as a symbol of law, order,
and justice. We will make America great again. Okay, so
(03:15):
do we think that Alcatraz is I feel like this
would take im.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I am behind almost every Trump idea and this is
very funny. I just toured Alcatraz.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I have.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Look, there are some things that he tosses out that see.
I know he doesn't drink, but this is like Clay
Travis three am at the bar, you know. And we
should open up Alcatraz again too. We should walk violent
dangerous criminals up Alcatraz. I just toured it. Alcatraz would
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need a lot, a lot of work in order to
be rehabilitated as a prison. And it isn't even that
big of a prison, so you can't even fit that
many people there and three.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Hundred people at its peak right in this steam.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But we're talking about I don't think you could put
people in the jail cells that they put them in
Alcatraz back in the day, Like you couldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I don't. I've been taking tour guide tour guide Clay Tay, Like,
what is it like when you saw this compared to
what you thought of? First of all, we'll talk about
the rock in a second. The rock is the most
famous Alcatraz pop culture content of all time, no question.
Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage, I think it might be Nicholas
Cage's best movie. But okay, so what was it like
when you actually saw it?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So it is mostly run down, decrepit, right, They haven't
had any prisoners there since nineteen sixty three. It is
not very big. The parts that you can tour, which
is basically the whole thing, the gel cells are tiny,
so I don't think that you could in a modern
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era put someone inside of those. I also don't think
that they would be anywhere near maximum security level prison today, right, Like,
this is a very old prison that is in no
way kept up with the historic standards of security that
would have existed over the last sixty years. It is
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also they used to have like all the wardens there.
In fact, the woman one of the women who grew
up there. I mean, they had a school. It's a
very fascinating tour. I would encourage anybody who is in
San Francisco to get on the boat. It's not very far.
It's a gorgeous tour on the bay. I took my
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seventeen year old out there when we were in San
Francisco for a couple of days. But I think it
is impossible into a prison. I think you could I
mean it's like a mile out, so I mean fifteen
to twenty minutes probably on the boat quick. But and
you could get there even quicker if you you know,
depending on what size boat you had.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So it is you know that two people actually escaped
from Alcatraz. Their bodies though were never found. They were
I think it was three because I was just there.
Three guys. They have no idea?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
What?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Three guys, Yes, three guys. This is when you just
have to guide clay to or guide clay. And also
because as everyone does, you're like, hey, do you think
they made it and they never found their bodies? Do
you think they made it, got to the mainland and
just vanished because.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
They never wanted to be found again?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Or did they die?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Uh? You can swim it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
My son did not believe me when I said I
thought I'm not a very good swimmer.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I was about to ask do you think you could
swim it? And how much money would someone have to
pay you? There are very large great white sharks in
the San Francisco Bay just throwing that well.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
They also do a yearly race. I think escape from Alcatraz.
I think Riley Gaines from OutKick and does a lot
of Fox News. I think she swam it.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
She was a college swim, so she's pretty good. But
I think there are hundreds of people that get in
there and swim. I think I could make it. My
wife said I would drown, but I think, uh, thanks,
thanks Laura. Yeah, I think I could make it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What I don't know is how the currents work, which
would work against me obviously, Like does it continue to
push you back out and or in what direction? Because
or backwards? Could you go to Sace Alito in the
other direction I think, or would you just flounder out
there for a long time. It probably doesn't surprise anybody that,
even though I'm not a great swimmer, that I think
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I could make the swim. I think, and this could
be a really poor a really poor choice. I don't
think there's actually that many sharks in the bay. I
think they have oversold the shark infested nature of the bay.
Now there are tons of seals, and the seals now
come up on Peer thirty two, which is very cool.
(07:58):
But I don't think your odds have actually getting eaten
by a shark would be very high. I think you
would far more likely to drown if people swim well.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The odds are the odds are never high clay. But
when you're sucking in some salt water and splashing through
some waves and get a little cold and realize you've
got another like forty minutes of swimming ahead of you,
and it's you know that, Then all of a sudden
you start what do those sharks eat? I'm sure they
I think they eat the big fat seals.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But there are people I didn't realize this. There are
people every morning that go down and swim lots of
laps in the San Francisco Bay. I mean they swim
all over the place in the every day year round
because they say, you know, it's like a cold plunge,
it toughens them up. And maybe it does. But I
think I could make it. I think most people would drown.
(08:44):
I'm not a great swimmer, but I've never come close
to drowning. I think it would be like the little
engine that could. I would just keep going and eventually
I would make it to land.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I love your confidence. One guy who knows nothing about
cold swimming and seals is our friend Dave Rutherford, former
Navy seal who who is on the clay and buck
podcast network. You should check out the Dave Rutherford show.
He's uh, he's getting so many people tuning in and
listening every week. It's growing. But I asked Hi about
this because that was always the thing that bothered me
about Now there's a lot of implausible stuff, but I
(09:13):
don't care. I love The Rock. It's a great movie.
But if you've seen it's the only movie I've ever
seen where a seal team comes in like the cavalry
has arrived and they get completely wiped out. I don't think.
I don't think they take out like a single bad
guy too. I asked rud if he would weigh in
on the depiction of the seals in uh in The
Rock the movie, and he gave us a talkback play
(09:34):
twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Okay, clay Buck, allow me to jump in on this
rock dispute a little bit and listen. I absolutely love
that movie. I mean Nick Cage and Double O seven,
I mean the prom queen comment one of the funniest ever.
Absolutely loved it. You know, But here's the deal. There
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is no way that master Chief Denny Chalker of four
former Plank owner of Sealed Team six or or instructor
hass both of which who were instructors of mine in
the nineties when this thing came out. There is no
way that they would allow that operational fiasco to take place.
It's just not gonna happen right now. Don't get me wrong.
(10:18):
I love my Marine Corps brothers. I love that they
eat crams for a living, but there is just no
way in hell that those cats would have gotten the
jump on a sealed team platoon of that level in
that situation. It just ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Who Yah, I'm just saying they're not all you mean,
they're not all gonna, one by one slowly crawl into
a like a bathroom with an elevated platform around it
and meant for people to ambush them.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, I'm just you know, let's give the seal some
credit here.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was Ed Harris's finest role. It's one of Sean Connery.
I know he was James Bond, but Sean Connery is
incredible in them movie, and obviously Nicholas Cage is pretty extraordinary.
I mean I watched it. For those of you out there,
I think it came out in nineteen ninety five, ish,
I watched it because it was on paper that smart
(11:13):
move by the San Francisco Hotel, because we came back
from Alcatraz. Back in the hotel room that night, I'm
telling my son, hey, there's a great action movie made
about Alcatraz called The Rock. He has no idea what
I'm talking about. Sit down, start scrolling through the available movies.
That night, at you know, nine o'clock or whatever it was, boom,
The Rock is available for rent. I might be the
(11:34):
only person who's paid fifteen dollars to watch The Rock
in the last decade. But we watched it. He loved it.
My junior in high school had no idea. He was like,
this is so good.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I was like, I thought you would like it. Yeah,
they don't make movies like that anymore. It was a great,
great flick. I really enjoyed it. And if any of
you haven't seen it, certainly I couldn't. I didn't realize
Cary had never seen Commando, so you never know. If
any of you haven't seen the it's certainly worth and
it's a great rewatch as well, Like if you've seen
it one hundred times, it's a lot of fun. But
let me let me ask, you know, getting back to
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policy in the news here for a second. So what
happens Trump is the president, he tells Bureau of Prisons
to reopen this. What happens now, Like, really, what happens now?
Do they start to try to think about how they
could do this?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
First of all, it would take I bet seven or
eight years to retro fit. So if Trump is not
going to be president, when it would be done, I
don't know. I mean, I think it's a National Park
Service site. Have I presume that the president has executive
authority to change the way that it's classified.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But what would happen? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Like if Trump just came out and he was like, Hey,
you know, we're going to put a prison at Gettysburg Battlefield,
I don't know. Does the president have the authority to
alter a national historic site? I think it would probably,
like almost everything Trump tries to do, probably go to
court because I would think the people of San Francisco.
It's one of the most iconic tourist attractions in San Francisco,
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and I think they would probably argue that it has
more value to them now as a tourist attraction than
it would as a prison. To say nothing of again,
there is you basically would have to raise, tear down
the entire prison structure, and build a brand new prison
in order to be able to hold anybody.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And the Bureau of Prisons has already been asked about
this and their response is we comply with all presidential orders.
So I mean that is the official Bureau of Prison
of Bureau of Prisons respond so far as I'm seeing
here to Trump saying this, which which makes sense, he
is the president and he has said do this, So
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I guess they're going.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
To be really, really funny. I don't know how this
is going to play out. And I can't imagine it
being safe to put a prisoner there because you don't
want them to escape. I can't imagine it being very
easy to rehab and put a prisoner there. So that
is interesting in and of itself. Sunday hang with Clay
(14:08):
and Buck. Riley gains. Ali has confirmed that she made
the swim, and I asked, Ali, do you want to
just come in? Is this you who's been texting with
Riley to see whether or not she thought I would die?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yes, I was messaging her while you guys were talking
about it, and what did.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
She say here she did swim it. I was correct,
and I remember seeing that she had posted about swimming it.
She swam it, ironically, Buck with Navy seals.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, it wasn't an organized race, but she's swam it
and she's planning on doing it again this July. As
to whether you could make it, she said diplomatically, anything
less than a proficient swimmer probably wouldn't make it. Incredibly cold,
very wavy, big currents.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Clay, I smell a challenge, buddy, I smell a challenge.
I think we got to do the Clay Travis Annual
Cold Plunge. Here we raise money for charity. You know,
maybe we get like krock of coffee to sponsor it.
I like where we're going with. Also, I will wait
for you on shore with a hot cup of tea.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Right. Also added that she's not scared of sharks, and
she had a pod of dolphins swimming beside her, which
was an indicator the sharks would stay away.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I feel, well, why is that? But the dolphins will
chase away the sharks. Yeah, dolphins will. Dolphins will mess
up sharks generally speaking, especially even in a great white.
The way I see this going, Buck, is either I'll
be eaten by a shark, or I'll drown, or I'll
have to get rescued by one of the nave maybe seals,
which would immediately go megaviral me getting dragged out of
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the water near death. But I probably hypothermia too. I
do feel like I could do it. I'm not a
very good swimmer. I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I mean, would you would? You'd be a breaststroke guy, right,
I mean that's what.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You go with, Like, Well, certainly I think that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I walked into that one.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I mean, come on, I I don't think. I don't
even know what a proficient swimmer would be, Like, what
does that mean? Because she's a college swimmer, Like, proficient
swimmer meaning you can swim.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Probably a better swimmer than she guesses you are. She
was trying to be nice.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I think I'm I think I would make it
because I think I have the indomitable will of a
swim champion, but I do not have the skills of
an elite swim champion. But I think I would just
refuse to stop. I think I would just keep going
and eventually I would find the land. Now, my one
concern here, in addition to the sharks and the drowning
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is the current? Are are you getting constantly pushed back
and order and just kind of floundering and not making
any progress? That would be my concern is like that,
it's really hard to cut through the current. Well, I
was gonna say, I just you know, Clay, you I'll
make sure that when we do this annual Clay Alcatraz swim,
(17:04):
I'll be back at the San Francisco Hotel on the
hot tub, you know, and I'll be checking my phone
for updates on You'll be like Sean Connery if you remember,
went to the I think the Fountain Blue whatever, the
fanciest hotel was in San Francisco. That's where he made
him take him when they bailed him out of jail.
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I'm just laughing people, Jesse Kelly. In addition to Riley
who now says that I have to come to San
Francisco and attempt to swim, she says, they go out
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with a boat, they drop us off.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Kayaks are there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I asked if there was somebody who could rescue me
if I started to drown, and Jesse Kelly has waged
in and said, uh, what did he say? Don't listen
to the haters, Clay, you can do this and you
should absolutely try, which is a very good thought.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
One thing I'm thinking, Buck, Can you imagine if I
put a live webcam on like my head, like my forehead,
and you had a live vision of me attempting, you
probably hear it too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And we could be honest something. Just think of all
the money we could raise for punnelty towers, or we
had a lot of money for a really good cause.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You know, I will say, if I made the swim,
I think Trump might have to revoke his idea of
turning Alcatraz into a prison, because it's supposed to be unescapable, right.
If a fat, out of shape person like me can
swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco Bay, then I think
the three guys that vanished they made the swim, and
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I think he would have to rescind his decision to
try to turn it into a prison. In addition to
the fact that we potentially could raise a lot of
money for charity. I also think that I could prove
that it is not an inescapable prison if I made
it now, if I drowned, then maybe Trump would be like, hey,
we're you know, We're going to reopen Alcatraz and one
of the jail cells will name after Clay. This will
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be the Travis Wing of Alcatraz Island in honor of
his untimely death. I will say, groc A bunch of
you have been sharing this. It is a myth, and
this is inevitably going to blow up in my faith
because I'm gonna get eaten by a shark if I
try to do this. But and then this will go
megaviral and this will be the only thing people remember
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from my entire life. It is a myth so far
that lots of people are getting eaten by sharks in
San Francisco Bay. In fact, it's never happened now. Also,
there's not a lot of people, to be fair, who
are in the water on a regular basis. I would
imagine in the San Francisco Bay area because the water
is cold and the beaches are not particularly fabulous. But
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it has never occurred in San Francisco Bay that someone
has been eaten by a shark. Kara from Kentucky has
a talkback. Kara BB, what have we got here, Clay.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
I think you're great, but I think you're way over
confident when it comes to your swimming ability. Swimming is
a tough sport. My son's high school team has won
the state championship here in Kentucky for the past thirty
plus years. I'd like to invite you to come to
one of his practices. If you could make it through that,
you'll have my vote for Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I think I could make it through.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The problem is I would be like me going to
a elite high school team's practice. I mean, I would
have to be there for like eight hours because they're
going to do twenty laps or whatever, and it's going
to take them like three and a half minutes, and
then it takes me an hour. So I just I
don't think. I do not think I would drown. I
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think I could always stay above the water, and I
think if I could stay above the water long enough,
eventually I would get to shore. Now, the one part
of the calculate here that I'm not confident about is
what are the currents like? In other words, like, would
it sweep me further out? But the bay is not
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that big, so I would think it would sweep me
from one side to the other. In other words, surely
I would hit land at some point, or one of
the buoys underneath the Golden Gate Bridge, which is way
far away, or the Bay Bridge, which is also far away,
because I don't want to go out to open water.
But you're in the bay, So I just think at
some point if you just stayed upright, eventually you would
(21:33):
maybe die of hypothermia. But if you didn't die of hypothermia,
I think you would end up on land. I mean,
bottles that get thrown into the ocean eventually end up
on land. You just got to not drown in the meantime.
And I don't think I would drown. I think I
could stay above the water. How much confidence do you
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have that I could make it? How much would you have?
You just said, we have to raise the amount of
money we're willing to pay the guys to fly, like
a thousand dollars we our friend Gurdusky said they're offering
thirty five thousand dollars in Sweden. How much odd what
odds would you have to get for me to be
able to make it not to be rescued ten to one.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
This is it's a mile. Is that right? It's a
mile swim total? I think, so, yeah, that's not that's
not that bad. I mean, the Statue of Liberty is
two miles from Manhattan, so that's that's considerably more.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I mean, do people swim back and forth in the
Statue of Liberty? Is that what will Caine and Hegseth did?
Was that the Navy seal swim they did?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah? Yeah, no, you look, you you'd make it. The
only thing I might get you would be the I think,
either the currents or the cold. The shark thing is
just it's just a thing in your head to scare you.
Uh but yeah, which obviously.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Which would by the way, work because when you're like
halfway back and you're a long way from the shore,
you're definitely gonna be expecting to get eaten by a shark.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
The funny thing about about all I've spent like way
too much time. I think a lot of us have
different fascinations with with scary scary things. We're kids or whatever,
and sharks is something I've read a lot of shark
attacks something I've read a lot about when I was
a kid. You know what's interesting is that your right, Statistically,
you're you're very, very safe from shark attack. However, sharks
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are far more present around people than they ever realize,
and now because of drone technology, people are starting to
see that. Oh yeah, that's right. There's a lot of
times where there's a you know, one hundred people be
at a beach, they're all in the ocean, splash around,
having a great time, and just beyond the surf break
about you know, thirty forty yards, it'll be some big
tiger sharks or something swimming around out there. So sharks
(23:36):
are much more present in the environment than a lot
than we realize because you generally don't see them, right,
You generally have no idea. So that's kind of a
funny thing, Right, on the one hand, we were more
scared of them than we should be, But the other hand,
they're far more present than we recognize them to be.
Have I told you my shark story?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Have I told this this audience of the shark story?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
This is I don't know. We got to talk about
the economy, Clay, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Economy, Jeffy far When I and Trump's got it. I
was seventh grade, Panama City Beach Church mission trip, Panama
City Beach, nineteen ninety. Not a very nice place. This
is like a bunker that we're staying in for the
church retreat. We have a jet ski rented. It's like
(24:24):
a nineteen year old kid with a jet ski who
was like one of the chaperones. He's taking us out
one at a time on the jet ski and we
get out on the jet ski and jet ski's back
in like nineteen ninety used to tip over all the time,
and it was really hard back in the day to
get back on a jet ski. Now it's actually comparatively easy.
(24:45):
They maintain and hold itself. Well two of us, it
was very difficult. So he's back on and suddenly this
light guard comes roaring up on his own jet ski
and he says, everybody off the beach. We've spotted tiger
sharks in the area. One hundred per century. Seventh grade
weighs out on the ocean jet ski, Panama City Beach,
(25:08):
and the guy who is the nineteen year old is like, hey,
we can't get back up because we keep tipping over.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So he's on.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
He says, I'll just drag you in, says, I will
drag you back into the shallows. We got to make
sure you don't get eaten by a tiger Sharky, this
is maybe the greatest bait that's ever existed for tiger shark.
I'm hanging on to the back of the jet ski.
The exhaust is just pouring, you know, right in my face.
I'm twelve, and as it's pouring off buck my swimsuit
(25:41):
comes off. So the whole beach covered with like twelve
and thirteen year old girls and I am hitting the waves,
mooning the entirety of Panama City Beach, Florida. This would
have gone certainly megaviral in the day when everybody has
their well I guess maybe not because I was like.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
A shark like shark repellant. This is good. The shark's
not going to mess with you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Now I'm thinking to myself, all these cute girls are
on the beach, and now I'm naked, and I'm also
going to get eaten by a shark. This is maybe
the worst way for a twelve or thirteen year old
boy to go out ever in the history of mankind.
I get and by the way, by the grace of God,
I managed to hook my bathing suit on my right ankle,
(26:25):
so the webbing of the bathing suit, so I managed
to hang on to that for dear life. On the
right ankle, I get dropped off, and uh and I'm like,
you know, naked in the water trying to get my
swimsuit on, and everybody's panicked on the beach because there's
tiger sharks. Everybody is fleeing the beach and somehow I
(26:46):
have managed to create this huge scene.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
People are expecting me to get it eaten.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So I've been, you know, kind of in fear of
sharks even more so ever since that day.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So I think, you know, after having overcome that that story,
I think that you definitely have to do the Alcatraz
swim just for your your own dignity, you know. I
feel like, well, a.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Wet suit's harder to get ripped off, I would think.
So if I'm in a wet suit, I think I
would be okay. But that's a true story.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
If you're listening right now, and you were on Panama
City Beach in June of nineteen ninety or so, and
you saw a kid mooning the whole beach, that was me.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now you're listening to me on the radio. So I survived.
That is probably a story that you didn't expect to
hear today. Buck when you started off, when.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You started off the day, it's a I did not,
and here we are.
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