July 21, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the political and cultural landscape of America, marking key anniversaries and analyzing the seismic shifts in leadership and ideology over the past year. The hosts reflect on the one-year anniversary of President Joe Biden’s withdrawal from the 2024 race, the chaotic fallout that followed, and the endorsement of Kamala Harris. They revisit the pivotal June 27th Biden-Trump debate and the near-assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, framing these events as historically transformative.
The hour features a robust comparison between recent political turmoil and past eras, including the JFK assassination, the 1968 political violence, and the 1864 Civil War election. The hosts draw parallels between Lincoln’s re-election and Trump’s political resurgence, emphasizing the importance of Sherman's capture of Atlanta and how historical military victories shaped electoral outcomes.
A major theme is President Donald Trump’s fulfillment of his 2024 campaign promises. The hosts praise his adherence to a 20-point platform and argue that no modern president has delivered more directly on campaign pledges. They also critique the Democratic Party’s strategy, suggesting that their overconfidence and reliance on abortion and “defense of democracy” messaging backfired in the 2024 election cycle.
The show also explores the economic outlook under the Trump administration, highlighting predictions from Jim Rickards about a potential $150 trillion state-owned asset that could trigger an unprecedented economic boom. The Wall Street Journal’s headline, “The U.S. Economy is Regaining Its Swagger,” is cited as evidence of renewed consumer and corporate confidence.
Cultural commentary includes Trump’s call to restore the original names of the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians, framed as a pushback against left-wing cultural overreach. The hosts argue this signals a broader conservative effort to reverse the excesses of the “woke” era.
Hunter Biden’s recent profanity-laced interview is dissected, particularly his comments on illegal immigration and labor. The hosts criticize his rhetoric and use it to highlight broader Democratic messaging failures.
The hour also touches on the explosive growth of the show’s YouTube channel, now nearing 100,000 subscribers, and the shift in media consumption from traditional platforms to digital video. The hosts emphasize the importance of reaching younger audiences and adapting to new content formats.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us as we are rolling through
Monday brand new a week, and I do think it's
worth contemplating where we are. We mentioned June twenty seventh,
the one year anniversary of the disastrous first Biden Trump
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debate that effectively ended Biden's political career. We had a
lot of discussion about the one year anniversary of the
near assassination in Butler, Pennsylvania. Today is the anniversary of
when Buck Island was officially returned to the sea. As
this is almost to the minute as we're starting off
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the program, the one year anniversary of Joe Biden announcing
that he would be withdrawing from the presidential race in
twenty twenty four and endorsing Kamala Harris and all of that.
When you talk about June twenty seventh, Joe U thirteenth,
and July twenty first, that three week period which was
(01:04):
so chaotic for so many people out there, including all
of you who hung out with us throughout that entire process.
It's really already now in the history books. But I
do believe that that three week period in almost the
lives of anyone out there listening unless you were alive
(01:26):
when and remember when maybe FDR died in office. I'm
not sure we've ever seen anything like that. I know
the JFK assassination and everything that unspooled there was incredibly traumatic.
Nineteen sixty eight MLK, RFK and getting assassinated in the
(01:47):
wake of JFK. All of that period. I think probably
the historical analogy that is most precient, most applicable would
be nineteen sixty three to nineteen seven, seventy two meter
ish of what we have been through in the last
decade or so. But I do think it is worth
(02:08):
reflecting because I think in the minutes and the days
and the passions of the moment, sometimes you can lose
the forest for the trees to think about where we
were a year ago and where we are here. As
effectively the first six months of the Trump administration has
now been put in place, Buck, I was looking at
the twenty part promise, basically the platform that Donald Trump
(02:34):
put in place in twenty twenty four. I'm not sure
we have ever seen a president do exactly what he
told us he was going to do more than Trump has.
If you go back and look at the twenty part
pledge that he made, and we should link this and
put it up at clayanbuck dot com because I think
sometimes people forget what exactly was said. And look, it's politics,
(02:56):
so there's all sorts of promises made and all these
different angles that are associated with it. But I truly
do not believe we have ever seen a president deliver
more of exactly what he said he would. And we
have cut five, which is Joe Biden announcing that he
is dropping out of the race. And here that is
(03:19):
Remember he didn't actually publicly address it for several days.
I mean, he had put up the statement and then
just basically went dark. And I will say the original
sin book that everybody I get it. Jake Tapper is
a big liar, and the pretended he didn't know. But
from a historical record perspective, they actually do a good
job of covering all of the pressure on Biden in
(03:42):
the three weeks post debate that slowly was building that
really there wasn't a tenable option. Everybody effectively in the
Senate and the House was demanding privately over and over
again he has to go. But here he is giving
his farewell address. I think again, thankfully, Biden is God.
(04:03):
I think it's the worst presidency than any of us
have lived through. But it is kind of crazy to
think about all the things that have happened since this moment.
But listen to Biden saying goodbye.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You know, in recent weeks has become clear to me.
I need you to unite my party in this critical endeavor.
I believe my record as president, my leadership in the world,
my vision for America's future, all merrit of a second term.
But nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving
(04:32):
our democracy that includes personal ambition. So I've decided the
best way forward is the past, the torch to a
new generation. That's the best way to unite our nation.
I know there is a time and a place for
long years of experience in public life. There's also time
and a place for new voices, fresh voices, Yes, younger voices,
(04:55):
and that time and places now.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Now the sounds like he's making Yeah, he sounds like
he's making a hostage video. There's no part of Joe Biden.
Joe Biden exists so that he can run for office
and that he can be, you know, finding some way
to pillage the Treasury on his own behalf. The whole
thing is absurd. He didn't want to go. He got
shoved out kicking and screening, and the Democrats managed to
(05:24):
put themselves in the worst possible situation, which was pushing
Joe Biden out late in the game. Again, Yes, Buck Island.
Sorry for those of you who signed your name on
that dotted line.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It got a little bit Jill buy in property, still
buying property, in selling it. The market got tough, but
people were still buying in June, and they really got
snowed under.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm telling you Biden thought, and I think his immediate
handlers thought that they'd be able to push through this
because there was no mechan There was no mechanism to
push him out. The only way to push him out
was what we saw, which was a dentially every important
person in the Democrat Party, and I know you said
this was laid out in Faith Papper's book, every person
(06:08):
the Democrat Party saying you aren't just going to cost
us the presidency, You're going to cost us a sixty
Senate vote threshold and the biggest loss in the House
we've ever seen, et cetera, et cetera. And that just
says something. By the way, this whole thing about Kamala
Harris that up until Biden's dementia drop out, they recognized
(06:31):
that he was actually better than Kamala Harris. And the
fact that they ran Kamala Harris, that so many Democrats
voted for it's really just a non Trump vote. This
is what I've said along, is that they're Democrats. You
get forty eight percent of the American electorate votes for
any Democrat, doesn't matter who, truly doesn't matter who. But
Kamala did about as poorly as I think anybody could
(06:52):
have in the situation. I think she was honestly the
worst candidate. She makes John Kerry look like a fabulous
presidential candidate by comparison.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I let's play this too. By the way, not to gloat,
but my stake was amazing. But this was the day
when and this is not even my call, this is
producer Greg. If you want to take up arms against him.
Buck number one on the cut sheet with a highlight
through it. September twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, when we
officially made the steak bet on Biden running. Listen to
(07:22):
cut one, Buck Sexton. We have a steak. Bet we
have many stake But I do not believe that Joe
Biden is going to run for reelection in twenty twenty
four because I think even Democrats are going to have
to acknowledge that his mental state is so deteriorated that
he doesn't have the capacity to do it. In the
wake of this viral incident yesterday, Are you sticking to
(07:45):
your guns that Biden is going to run? Oh? Absolutely,
you're sticking to the guns. I'm sticking with it.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think that they they almost take I think there
are a lot of Democrats who privately take some glee
in we can even make this guy president.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Can I just say he did run, So it's a
little it's a little uh, you know what I mean.
It's a little Haye. He did run.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
He bailed, but he was the Democrat nominee until the
very last second when he finally fell apart. They should
have pulled him obviously. That was twenty twenty two, Just
by way of reference, two years before Biden's running. I'm like,
he's gonna do it. He's gonna do it. That was
two years of additional brain deterioration, Clay, and he did
run until July of the election year, which is insane.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I and again, what I will say about the book
original sin it it really is analogous to when the
king has lost his marbles historically, because thankfully we don't
have that many American president analogies where the president is
unable to do the job. There's the Woodrow Wilson stroke
(08:57):
story where Edith Wilson basically ran the presidency. Now that
was in a different era. Certainly FDR had many different
health related issues and should not have run for another
term in forty four. What I would put a star
on for that one is We're in the middle of
World War two, and I don't think it would have
(09:18):
been smart even if you knew FDR was potentially going
to die. That's one where I would say, Hey, you
don't want to switch chief executives in the middle of
a global world war and try to bring in somebody
new change office in January of forty five. How might
that have changed?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yes, as you well know, we almost in a perhaps
worse situation. It's tough, you know, world War two versus
the Civil War, which one was worse for America, but
they wanted to They came very close Republicans came very
close to pushing Lincoln out.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, McClellan almost beat him. I mean, it's one of
the I think most compelling stories for those of you
that are history nerds. The eighteen sixty four election, I
think doesn't get enough attention because people have so lionized
Lincoln that the idea there would have been opposition to Lincoln,
or that he wasn't fervently ripped to shreds by the
media when he was in office, is completely forgotten. But
(10:11):
Lincoln ran against the former head of the Union Army,
who was running as the Democrat on the ticket of hey,
let's just basically settle with the South, we'll let them
go our way, We'll go our way, no more war.
And it was very close until Sherman took Atlanta. It
was very unclear what exactly was going to happen in
(10:35):
that race. The taking of Atlanta was seen as a
profoundly momentous moment in terms of the trajectory. If Sherman
doesn't take Atlanta. Frankly, for those of you who are
real Civil War history nerds like me, if Jefferson Davis
doesn't put John bell Hood in as the commanding Officer
in the Western It was called the Western Theater at
(10:57):
the time, even though it was just Tennessee, Georgia. I
don't know that Lincoln wins reelection because I think if
he had left Joe Johnson, and Johnson was the consummate
just dig new earthworks retreat retreat. I'm not sure Atlanta
gets taken before the election.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
To bring to bring up to the the more current
election for a second, just one thing, Clay, I believe
that Democrats managed to we've said, the biggest own goal
in political history, which is one shorthand way of doing it.
But they they were so sure and this is a
little bit of their come uppance for what they pulled
(11:35):
off in.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The mid terms.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
When granted they they were able to use abortion fear
mongering and defensive democracy through a very narrow slice of
the electorate in very specific places to get the Even
though Florida had like a twenty point swing and there
were some play there were New York was much better
than California, was much better for Republicans Republicans than a
(11:57):
lot of people thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, it was a pretty big win for the
Red in some blue.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
States, in the key states, they obviously pulled off a
very disappointing for Republicans election in the midterms. But Clay,
I think they convinced themselves that they had the plan,
and the plan was force everybody to coalesce around Trump
as the nominee in the primary, and then we will
(12:21):
destroy him. And what they really did was create you know,
it's like they hit Trump with Gamma rays. They created
Super Trump. Yeah, and that actually goes to what you
said too. I think they didn't realize when he was
making these promises in the last election a year ago,
not a long time ago, a year ago, when he
was promising to do I think they thought it was
(12:41):
all bluster and they are caught totally wrongfooted, and they
are freaked out because he's actually doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He's actually trying to do these things. I think one
of the great historical again it's hard to predict history
caveats in place all those things Democrats believed in the
wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned they could effectively
run the twenty twenty two playbook again in twenty twenty
four and mobilize mass turnout. I think what you're seeing,
and I don't know how many of you feel this.
(13:12):
Abortion doesn't even really feel like a political issue to
me very much anymore, by which I mean national political issue.
If you desperately care how many people do about what
the abortion laws are in your state, it's a state issue.
Go work hard, elect legislatures, governors, people who want to
can implement the policies you like. But the idea that, hey,
(13:32):
the Supreme Court and who's going to be on the
ticket and it's going to mobilize women, I think like
the whole Hey, the world is going to end if
Roe v. Wade is overturned. It didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And I every time of a panic, every time you
talk about mobilizing women in context of that election, I
think about that the best. Well, well, well, I'm a
political hand of lesson the women of America. Their voices
are good to be heard. Remember her store, the guy
buying the champagne, and she was, she was. That is
one of the great, one of the great random viral
(14:07):
political moments in recent memory.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That was so fun. She got super famous. All right.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
The Trump administration is determined to see our nation's economy
thrive again. You see the Wall Street Journal today. We'll
talk about this. The US economy is regaining its swagger.
That was the main headline today. But there's some interesting
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advisor Jim Rickards, same guy who correctly predicted the two
(14:33):
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twenty pandemic, he thinks as a plan that could be
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next thing coming? Jim Records believes President Trump is about
to unleash a one hundred and fifty trillion dollars state
owned asset that has been hidden for over a century.
This could trigger an economic boon not seen in a
century in one small sector of a market skyrocketing as
(14:57):
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Speaker 3 (15:32):
And welcome back into Clay and Bok. Got a lot
to discuss here with you today in the world of
the news. Big things coming in from over the weekend.
For one thing, I love this headline. I mentioned it before,
but Clay in the Wall Street Journal. I know some
people are booing right now because it's the Wall People
are a little annoyed, rightly so at the Wall Street
Journal right now. But they do do good reporting on
(15:54):
the economy still, they know that. Not so good on
the Epstein stuff, but they're good on the economy. The
US economy is regaining its swagger. Companies, consumers starting to
splurge again. We're rolling, baby, that's going. The Trump economy
is moving and all that fear over tariffs is dissipating.
Just wait till we get a you know, some real
(16:15):
rate cuts kicking in. I think things were really good thing.
Tulci Gabbard, by the way, has demanded more action and
investigation over officials from the Obama administration who used the
Russia collusion hoax that broke. I think right after we
were on the show Friday, Trump this is right up
Clay's alley. Trump calls for the Washington Commanders to change
(16:37):
their names back to the Redskins. He posted this on
truth Social which I think is particularly interesting, and also
he said that Adam Schiff is a quote fief who
should be prosecuted. A lot of that coming in oh
In the WNBA showed up to a game saying, pay
us what you owe us. Clay, I thought they were
(16:59):
getting paid more than they were owed based on economics.
So which one of these is your favorite? We can
go to any of these or wherever you want to
go next.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We got to t And by the way, also Hunter
Biden did an interview which is delusional, and we're going
to have some fun with that as well. But I
do think the Redskins angle is super interesting to me
as well. Trump over the weekend demanding that the Washington
Redskins and the Cleveland Indians bring back their former names.
(17:28):
And I think it's it's illustrative of effectively an erasure
of much of the last seven or eight years, and
it's important. It's a signifier. I understand some of you say, well, symbol,
there are other things to focus on. I think erasing
the excesses of the cultural far left move is actually
profoundly significant, and I don't think it's happened that often
(17:51):
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in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We got a bunch
(18:57):
to dive into Hunter Biden. These quotes. I can't believe
that they are real. We're gonna have some fun with him.
But I wanted to tell you guys, I love this.
The YouTube channel is on fire, and you know this
is interesting. More people now watch video on YouTube than
watch video on Netflix, than watch video on Disney, then
(19:18):
watch video on television. So I mean basically YouTube has
taken over video in America. And Buck has put out
a challenge to you guys that if you can get
us to ninety thousand subscribers, he will do a video
with Ginger, his lovely dog, and their chubby baby. And
if you like chubby babies, I mean their three month old.
(19:42):
Speed has unbelievable chubby baby pictures up right now. I
think there may be up at clayanbuck dot com, but
it is pretty outstanding. But we have added thousands of subscribers,
and I think this. I don't even know if Buck
has seen these. I was playing around. I like to
go just look at the data point publicly. I knew
that YouTube was exploding. I knew that we needed to
(20:03):
be over one hundred thousand subscribers there at a minimum,
and by the way, as I talk to you right now,
eighty two and a half thousand subscribers. So I want
this over one hundred. But the impact here is already
pretty pretty stellar. I don't even know if you saw
this book two of the videos that we put up
on Friday. As the YouTube audience grows, it's just a younger,
(20:27):
more dynamic argument culturally that we can continue to have
and impact a lot of different generations. Our discussion of
Tulsa Gabbert about the declassification bombshell sixty one thousand views
on YouTube on Friday. That is one of the biggest
videos we've ever had on YouTube. And then Colbert getting
(20:48):
canceled thirty thousand views. Those just went up on Friday,
two of the biggest videos that we have had there.
I want you, guys to make this show pop on
YouTube like it pops in everywhere else, and by the way,
you can stream it. I am told that I look
ridiculous right now. I look like Kramer because for some reason,
(21:08):
my white Crocket coffee t shirt is showing up and
I look like basically Kramer after he went to the
tanning bed. I am told so if you want to
be enterted. They actually asked me, Hey, can you go
just during the commercial break, Hey can you go claim
chain shirts? Because you look too ridiculous in that white
T shirt that you're in right now. I said no.
(21:29):
This is an incentive for people to go subscribe at YouTube.
You can see the video. I want us going over
one hundred thousand, but thank you for people who are
watching these videos and a big deal big Basically everybody
has their own television network now on YouTube. We want
this show to be big there. Soon in the months ahead,
we're going to be able to put all three full
(21:49):
hours up and you'll be able to watch the whole
show on video. We love the five hundred and fifty
five stations out there, but it's important to follow the
audience people. Now, this is kind of crazy. People now
watch videos of podcasts more than they listened to podcasts.
This evolution, I'll be frank, I never saw it coming.
(22:09):
I didn't think people were going to be sitting around
watching videos of people having conversations that are primarily designed
for audio. But this is where they are. They are
wildly popular. So if you would search out Clay Travis,
if you would search out the Buck Sexton Show, I
want you to drive those numbers over one hundred thousand
subscribers and we're going to be doing more and more
(22:31):
cool content for you there. Okay, speaking of crazy content,
we have got our good buddy Hunter Biden, aka the
smartest man that Joe Biden has ever known. He has
now decided that he needs to weigh in on a
huge variety of different topics. Here is a profanity laced
(22:57):
rant about who's going to clean your hotel room? Who's
gonna wash your dishes? This is Hunter Biden. We've had
to bleep it out. Hopefully we got all the bleeps.
Interview that has just gone viral. Cut twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Listening all these democrats say you have to talk about
and realize that people are really upset about illegal immigration. You,
how do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How
do you think you got food on your table? Who
do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think
does your garden? Who do you think is here by
the sheer? Just grit and will that they've figured out
(23:35):
a way to get here because they thought that they
could give theirselves in their family a better chance. And
he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are criminals.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Hunter Biden, I really, first of all, go away. Hold on.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You're not really giving him his due, because if someone's
going to know about breaking the law, it's Hunter Biden.
So if someone's going to be sitting there talking about
crime and heading away with it, I might add, Hunter Biden,
Clay kind of has a PhD, so maybe we should
give him a little more leeway to talk about the
capers that are being pulled off.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I can't believe some of these quotes. We're going to
play some more of this audio, but I do think
it is instructive of where Democrat party arguments have gone.
They have effectively argued, hey, who's going to be our slaves?
Who's going to do these jobs that nobody else will
do at low wages? And I think most Republicans just say, well,
(24:35):
maybe you should pay Americans more to do those jobs.
I've got a crazy idea, and it may be totally irrational.
Some of you may think that I'm bonkers for this idea.
I think most rational Americans, if they feel like they
are getting a fair wage for a job, will do it.
And maybe there should be a fair wage for some
(24:56):
of these jobs, and maybe Americans would come back in
and do those shops. Now. Look, I understand there are
certain parts of the country where there just aren't enough
people to do jobs. And I would also submit that
maybe everybody doesn't have to live in New York City.
Maybe everybody doesn't have to live in la Maybe if
the cost of living in a city is super high.
(25:18):
There's actually a speaking of the Wall Street Journal, as
reading an article over the weekend, a lot of so
called second tier cities are starting to explode in population
because they're more affordable and the jobs are pretty good.
There a lot of people, for instance, leaving Atlanta and
going to Greenville, South Carolina, or Chattanooga, Tennessee. Some people
(25:38):
leaving Nashville going to Huntsville, Alabama. Shouldn't we shouldn't we
encourage people to go to places where they can have
a better quality of living. You don't all have to
live in the exact same big cities and struggle to
survive there. There's lots of good jobs all over the country.
Find a place, go there. Raleigh, North Carolina is another
one that has exploded in popularity. And make a good living.
(26:00):
I mean this seems like kind of the basis of
why we have fifty states. If you're not living in
a good quality of life where you are right now,
find somewhere else better. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I think if I were advising anybody, I know we've
got college age or recent college grad or just that
age some of you didn't go to college or doing
other things who are listening, And it's a little bit
like the advice I get people now about college, which
I'm just going to say I didn't do this myself.
I looked at the US News and World Report rankings
based in the schools I went to. I visited them,
(26:31):
but I had this mentality of you get into the
highest ranked school, you get into right, And I think
that's the wrong mentality for the most part. A little
different with something like law school. Play went to a
fancy law school. If you're going to go to law school,
go to a fancy one because it's very expensive, and
you know, but for undergrad go where you want to go.
Why am I saying this same thing about where you
(26:52):
want to raise your family? Figure out where you actually
want to be. I think it's I think it's an
e All ravakan quote I said. We got to have
him on some time. I sided enough quotes for him.
I just think he's a brilliant guy. He says, the
two biggest decisions that will affect your life are where
you're live and who you marry. Yeah, bigger than jobs
(27:13):
come and go, even careers come and go. You know,
Clay and I were both doing totally different jobs before
we got into media careers. You can switch who you marry,
where you live, you know, or who do you build
your family with, and where you choose to be. And
America's got a ton of great places that you can
build with the place around you, right. I think it's
(27:36):
very different when when we were coming out of school
as well, early twenties, if you wanted certain jobs, you
had to be in certain places. You had to be
in New York, you had to be in la maybe Chicago,
if the Midwest. You want a big law firm, you
want a kind of a certain kind of financial job.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's all changed, man. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
The only one of the only good things about COVID
is that it made a lot of people explore outside
of their own universe within America of where they could live.
And also it made remote work or mobile work, you know,
jobs where you can go different places and travel more.
I think far more appealing and more normalized if you will.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So, I think that's all. That's all to the good.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And you know, high tax states, if you do them,
I c This is the conversation I've had with people.
I've actually had this with friends of mine, particularly some
people who are my like little sister's age, so eight
years younger than me. I've had this conversation with them
about in recent years because they're now early thirties and.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They're like, New York is so expensive.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'll have my sister and I have this conversation new
York so expensive, and I say, yeah, now do fourteen
percent of your income every year for the next twenty years.
Look at that number, and then look at what that
would be if you just put it as Clay Finance
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(28:59):
and P five hundred in an ETF with low costs.
Anybody can do this. It's about as easy as opening
a bank account and see what that money's worth in
twenty years. It's really tough to want to be in
one in Massachusetts, California, New York to start out. I mean,
it's it's almost unless you have no choice. Unless you know,
(29:21):
I have to work at Goldman Sachs and I have
to be in New York for it, whatever it may be,
I would There is no I've spent a lot of
time in California. I've spent a decent amount of time
in New York. They're fun to visit. I like a
lot of people who live there. There is a zero
percent chance that I would give the government fifteen percent
of my income every year for the opportunity to live
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in New York, Chicago or LA or San Francisco or
any other city.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I just wouldn't do it. I don't understand if you
have the choice, how you would choose to do that.
And I think what COVID showed to a lot of
people is there are incredible opportunities all over the country
for people to move and be able to have a
higher quality of life, a more affordable quality of life,
better place to raise your kids, better place to live.
(30:08):
And already, I mean I get fed up about this. Already.
I pay nearly forty percent tax rate, even without talking
about my property taxes, and and I'm fortunately I live
in Tennessee. I don't have state income taxes. I don't
think we talked about enough about this. I do this
show for five days Monday and Tuesday. I do this
show for the federal government. Think about how crazy that is?
(30:31):
You too, both of us sit here every Monday Tuesday.
You hear us, Uncle Sam gets everything that we make.
We just basically are working for the federal government on
Monday and Tuesday. And a lot of you. I don't
think people do the math and sit around and think
about it. But wait a minute, on Monday Tuesday, however
many days of the week you work. If you work
five days, it's a good chance that about two of
(30:52):
those days every like, you don't start making your own
money to Wednesday. This is crazy, and it's just accepted
because we've come to expect that the federal government's just
going to take, like a massive vacuum cleaner, huge percentages
of our money that we're working for. Do I feel
like my federal government is giving me such good returns
(31:14):
that I should have to work for them every Monday
and Tuesday or Thursday and Friday, however you want to
classify it, No, I do not, And I think a
lot of you out there when you actually put it
in that context. You know, you can put it in
context of the months, how many of us? Basically, I
work for the government Monday too, sorry, January, February, March,
April into May. Like, that doesn't seem very fair to me,
(31:37):
So they take fifteen percent more. Do I want to
work for the State of New York for fifteen percent
of my daily time?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I do not. Do I want to work for the
state of California or the state of Illinois, No, I
do not. I think a lot of Americans are getting
fed up with it.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
But Gavin's so grateful, Clay whenever you go to LA
for doing sports stuff, you pay a little bit into
the gaving fund, and he'll have you out for chardonnay.
You know, he's just so pleased, so happy that you're
paying into the giant black hole of California's finances. What
was the deficit they ran this past is huge for
(32:13):
a state. Oh, bill billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, turns out even when you're taxing the you know
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Speaker 3 (34:23):
So we have so much to discuss here. We've got
the Russia collusion hoax stuff, which I could be wrong, Clay,
but I think it's not going very far, meaning I
don't think anyone's going to prison over this. I tend
to always I think. I don't think I've ever said
someone's not going to prison in these big stories, and
(34:46):
they actually have gone to prison.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So there's that. But I actually wanted.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
To do, you know, Clay, I would like to do
a little sports talk if I now, a little sports
talk coming up here in a few minutes, because I
think that Trump switching names and or telling people that
like the names should go back to the old names
for these teams. And I think that there has been
this mindset among conservatives for a long time of we
just were trying to stop the madness and culturally stop
(35:14):
the bleeding. Yep, Trump takes the Trump is taking the
approach of no, why don't we actually just set things
right the way it were, wasn't it. In one of
the Superman episodes where Lois Lane like dies and he
turns the earth, he like spins the earth backwards, and
then he saves her.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Right. Trump is kind of pulling that a little bit here.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
He's saying, we can actually go back in time and
go back to the America that we were used to.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm glad because I do think this is important. And
for those of you who don't know, Trump over the
weekend said hey, I want the Washington Redskins name back,
and I want the Cleveland Indians name back. And some
people immediately say, well, isn't there more significant things to
focus on, which is what you can say basically for
(35:59):
anything at any point in time, depending on what you
consider to be the most significant. But I think what
you hit on, Buck is important. Trump is trying to
reverse the entire woke era, and there were lots of
reasonable people, and I would like to think that I
was a reasonable person who thought, hey, let's just negotiate
over these mascot names. If we give up Redskins, if
(36:21):
we give up Indians, eventually they'll stop. It didn't happen.
The Atlanta Braves are a next in line. Oh, you
can't do the tomahawk chop anymore. The Kansas City Chiefs
and this is writ large all over the entirety of
the nation, where they've come after mascot name. I think
what Trump is doing here is actually symbolically hugely important
(36:43):
and significant and as an important cultural marker. We'll talk
about that, plus more crazy hunter By and Neck
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us as we are rolling through
Monday brand new a week, and I do think it's
worth contemplating where we are. We mentioned June twenty seventh,
the one year anniversary of the disastrous first Biden Trump
(00:22):
debate that effectively ended Biden's political career. We had a
lot of discussion about the one year anniversary of the
near assassination in Butler, Pennsylvania. Today is the anniversary of
when Buck Island was officially returned to the sea. As
this is almost to the minute as we're starting off
(00:42):
the program, the one year anniversary of Joe Biden announcing
that he would be withdrawing from the presidential race in
twenty twenty four and endorsing Kamala Harris and all of that.
When you talk about June twenty seventh, Joe U thirteenth,
and July twenty first, that three week period which was
(01:04):
so chaotic for so many people out there, including all
of you who hung out with us throughout that entire process.
It's really already now in the history books. But I
do believe that that three week period in almost the
lives of anyone out there listening unless you were alive
(01:26):
when and remember when maybe FDR died in office. I'm
not sure we've ever seen anything like that. I know
the JFK assassination and everything that unspooled there was incredibly traumatic.
Nineteen sixty eight MLK, RFK and getting assassinated in the
(01:47):
wake of JFK. All of that period. I think probably
the historical analogy that is most precient, most applicable would
be nineteen sixty three to nineteen seven, seventy two meter
ish of what we have been through in the last
decade or so. But I do think it is worth
(02:08):
reflecting because I think in the minutes and the days
and the passions of the moment, sometimes you can lose
the forest for the trees to think about where we
were a year ago and where we are here. As
effectively the first six months of the Trump administration has
now been put in place, Buck, I was looking at
the twenty part promise, basically the platform that Donald Trump
(02:34):
put in place in twenty twenty four. I'm not sure
we have ever seen a president do exactly what he
told us he was going to do more than Trump has.
If you go back and look at the twenty part
pledge that he made, and we should link this and
put it up at clayanbuck dot com because I think
sometimes people forget what exactly was said. And look, it's politics,
(02:56):
so there's all sorts of promises made and all these
different angles that are associated with it. But I truly
do not believe we have ever seen a president deliver
more of exactly what he said he would. And we
have cut five, which is Joe Biden announcing that he
is dropping out of the race. And here that is
(03:19):
Remember he didn't actually publicly address it for several days.
I mean, he had put up the statement and then
just basically went dark. And I will say the original
sin book that everybody I get it. Jake Tapper is
a big liar, and the pretended he didn't know. But
from a historical record perspective, they actually do a good
job of covering all of the pressure on Biden in
(03:42):
the three weeks post debate that slowly was building that
really there wasn't a tenable option. Everybody effectively in the
Senate and the House was demanding privately over and over
again he has to go. But here he is giving
his farewell address. I think again, thankfully, Biden is God.
(04:03):
I think it's the worst presidency than any of us
have lived through. But it is kind of crazy to
think about all the things that have happened since this moment.
But listen to Biden saying goodbye.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You know, in recent weeks has become clear to me.
I need you to unite my party in this critical endeavor.
I believe my record as president, my leadership in the world,
my vision for America's future, all merrit of a second term.
But nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving
(04:32):
our democracy that includes personal ambition. So I've decided the
best way forward is the past, the torch to a
new generation. That's the best way to unite our nation.
I know there is a time and a place for
long years of experience in public life. There's also time
and a place for new voices, fresh voices, Yes, younger voices,
(04:55):
and that time and places now.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Now the sounds like he's making Yeah, he sounds like
he's making a hostage video. There's no part of Joe Biden.
Joe Biden exists so that he can run for office
and that he can be, you know, finding some way
to pillage the Treasury on his own behalf. The whole
thing is absurd. He didn't want to go. He got
shoved out kicking and screening, and the Democrats managed to
(05:24):
put themselves in the worst possible situation, which was pushing
Joe Biden out late in the game. Again, Yes, Buck Island.
Sorry for those of you who signed your name on
that dotted line.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It got a little bit Jill buy in property, still
buying property, in selling it. The market got tough, but
people were still buying in June, and they really got
snowed under.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm telling you Biden thought, and I think his immediate
handlers thought that they'd be able to push through this
because there was no mechan There was no mechanism to
push him out. The only way to push him out
was what we saw, which was a dentially every important
person in the Democrat Party, and I know you said
this was laid out in Faith Papper's book, every person
(06:08):
the Democrat Party saying you aren't just going to cost
us the presidency, You're going to cost us a sixty
Senate vote threshold and the biggest loss in the House
we've ever seen, et cetera, et cetera. And that just
says something. By the way, this whole thing about Kamala
Harris that up until Biden's dementia drop out, they recognized
(06:31):
that he was actually better than Kamala Harris. And the
fact that they ran Kamala Harris, that so many Democrats
voted for it's really just a non Trump vote. This
is what I've said along, is that they're Democrats. You
get forty eight percent of the American electorate votes for
any Democrat, doesn't matter who, truly doesn't matter who. But
Kamala did about as poorly as I think anybody could
(06:52):
have in the situation. I think she was honestly the
worst candidate. She makes John Kerry look like a fabulous
presidential candidate by comparison.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I let's play this too. By the way, not to gloat,
but my stake was amazing. But this was the day
when and this is not even my call, this is
producer Greg. If you want to take up arms against him.
Buck number one on the cut sheet with a highlight
through it. September twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, when we
officially made the steak bet on Biden running. Listen to
(07:22):
cut one, Buck Sexton. We have a steak. Bet we
have many stake But I do not believe that Joe
Biden is going to run for reelection in twenty twenty
four because I think even Democrats are going to have
to acknowledge that his mental state is so deteriorated that
he doesn't have the capacity to do it. In the
wake of this viral incident yesterday, Are you sticking to
(07:45):
your guns that Biden is going to run? Oh? Absolutely,
you're sticking to the guns. I'm sticking with it.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think that they they almost take I think there
are a lot of Democrats who privately take some glee
in we can even make this guy president.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Can I just say he did run, So it's a
little it's a little uh, you know what I mean.
It's a little Haye. He did run.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
He bailed, but he was the Democrat nominee until the
very last second when he finally fell apart. They should
have pulled him obviously. That was twenty twenty two, Just
by way of reference, two years before Biden's running. I'm like,
he's gonna do it. He's gonna do it. That was
two years of additional brain deterioration, Clay, and he did
run until July of the election year, which is insane.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I and again, what I will say about the book
original sin it it really is analogous to when the
king has lost his marbles historically, because thankfully we don't
have that many American president analogies where the president is
unable to do the job. There's the Woodrow Wilson stroke
(08:57):
story where Edith Wilson basically ran the presidency. Now that
was in a different era. Certainly FDR had many different
health related issues and should not have run for another
term in forty four. What I would put a star
on for that one is We're in the middle of
World War two, and I don't think it would have
(09:18):
been smart even if you knew FDR was potentially going
to die. That's one where I would say, Hey, you
don't want to switch chief executives in the middle of
a global world war and try to bring in somebody
new change office in January of forty five. How might
that have changed?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yes, as you well know, we almost in a perhaps
worse situation. It's tough, you know, world War two versus
the Civil War, which one was worse for America, but
they wanted to They came very close Republicans came very
close to pushing Lincoln out.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, McClellan almost beat him. I mean, it's one of
the I think most compelling stories for those of you
that are history nerds. The eighteen sixty four election, I
think doesn't get enough attention because people have so lionized
Lincoln that the idea there would have been opposition to Lincoln,
or that he wasn't fervently ripped to shreds by the
media when he was in office, is completely forgotten. But
(10:11):
Lincoln ran against the former head of the Union Army,
who was running as the Democrat on the ticket of hey,
let's just basically settle with the South, we'll let them
go our way, We'll go our way, no more war.
And it was very close until Sherman took Atlanta. It
was very unclear what exactly was going to happen in
(10:35):
that race. The taking of Atlanta was seen as a
profoundly momentous moment in terms of the trajectory. If Sherman
doesn't take Atlanta. Frankly, for those of you who are
real Civil War history nerds like me, if Jefferson Davis
doesn't put John bell Hood in as the commanding Officer
in the Western It was called the Western Theater at
(10:57):
the time, even though it was just Tennessee, Georgia. I
don't know that Lincoln wins reelection because I think if
he had left Joe Johnson, and Johnson was the consummate
just dig new earthworks retreat retreat. I'm not sure Atlanta
gets taken before the election.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
To bring to bring up to the the more current
election for a second, just one thing, Clay, I believe
that Democrats managed to we've said, the biggest own goal
in political history, which is one shorthand way of doing it.
But they they were so sure and this is a
little bit of their come uppance for what they pulled
(11:35):
off in.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The mid terms.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
When granted they they were able to use abortion fear
mongering and defensive democracy through a very narrow slice of
the electorate in very specific places to get the Even
though Florida had like a twenty point swing and there
were some play there were New York was much better
than California, was much better for Republicans Republicans than a
(11:57):
lot of people thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, it was a pretty big win for the
Red in some blue.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
States, in the key states, they obviously pulled off a
very disappointing for Republicans election in the midterms. But Clay,
I think they convinced themselves that they had the plan,
and the plan was force everybody to coalesce around Trump
as the nominee in the primary, and then we will
(12:21):
destroy him. And what they really did was create you know,
it's like they hit Trump with Gamma rays. They created
Super Trump. Yeah, and that actually goes to what you
said too. I think they didn't realize when he was
making these promises in the last election a year ago,
not a long time ago, a year ago, when he
was promising to do I think they thought it was
(12:41):
all bluster and they are caught totally wrongfooted, and they
are freaked out because he's actually doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He's actually trying to do these things. I think one
of the great historical again it's hard to predict history
caveats in place all those things Democrats believed in the
wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned they could effectively
run the twenty twenty two playbook again in twenty twenty
four and mobilize mass turnout. I think what you're seeing,
and I don't know how many of you feel this.
(13:12):
Abortion doesn't even really feel like a political issue to
me very much anymore, by which I mean national political issue.
If you desperately care how many people do about what
the abortion laws are in your state, it's a state issue.
Go work hard, elect legislatures, governors, people who want to
can implement the policies you like. But the idea that, hey,
(13:32):
the Supreme Court and who's going to be on the
ticket and it's going to mobilize women, I think like
the whole Hey, the world is going to end if
Roe v. Wade is overturned. It didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And I every time of a panic, every time you
talk about mobilizing women in context of that election, I
think about that the best. Well, well, well, I'm a
political hand of lesson the women of America. Their voices
are good to be heard. Remember her store, the guy
buying the champagne, and she was, she was. That is
one of the great, one of the great random viral
(14:07):
political moments in recent memory.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That was so fun. She got super famous. All right.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
The Trump administration is determined to see our nation's economy
thrive again. You see the Wall Street Journal today. We'll
talk about this. The US economy is regaining its swagger.
That was the main headline today. But there's some interesting
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(14:33):
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twenty pandemic, he thinks as a plan that could be
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Speaker 3 (15:32):
And welcome back into Clay and Bok. Got a lot
to discuss here with you today in the world of
the news. Big things coming in from over the weekend.
For one thing, I love this headline. I mentioned it before,
but Clay in the Wall Street Journal. I know some
people are booing right now because it's the Wall People
are a little annoyed, rightly so at the Wall Street
Journal right now. But they do do good reporting on
(15:54):
the economy still, they know that. Not so good on
the Epstein stuff, but they're good on the economy. The
US economy is regaining its swagger. Companies, consumers starting to
splurge again. We're rolling, baby, that's going. The Trump economy
is moving and all that fear over tariffs is dissipating.
Just wait till we get a you know, some real
(16:15):
rate cuts kicking in. I think things were really good thing.
Tulci Gabbard, by the way, has demanded more action and
investigation over officials from the Obama administration who used the
Russia collusion hoax that broke. I think right after we
were on the show Friday, Trump this is right up
Clay's alley. Trump calls for the Washington Commanders to change
(16:37):
their names back to the Redskins. He posted this on
truth Social which I think is particularly interesting, and also
he said that Adam Schiff is a quote fief who
should be prosecuted. A lot of that coming in oh
In the WNBA showed up to a game saying, pay
us what you owe us. Clay, I thought they were
(16:59):
getting paid more than they were owed based on economics.
So which one of these is your favorite? We can
go to any of these or wherever you want to
go next.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We got to t And by the way, also Hunter
Biden did an interview which is delusional, and we're going
to have some fun with that as well. But I
do think the Redskins angle is super interesting to me
as well. Trump over the weekend demanding that the Washington
Redskins and the Cleveland Indians bring back their former names.
(17:28):
And I think it's it's illustrative of effectively an erasure
of much of the last seven or eight years, and
it's important. It's a signifier. I understand some of you say, well, symbol,
there are other things to focus on. I think erasing
the excesses of the cultural far left move is actually
profoundly significant, and I don't think it's happened that often
(17:51):
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(18:57):
to dive into Hunter Biden. These quotes. I can't believe
that they are real. We're gonna have some fun with him.
But I wanted to tell you guys, I love this.
The YouTube channel is on fire, and you know this
is interesting. More people now watch video on YouTube than
watch video on Netflix, than watch video on Disney, then
(19:18):
watch video on television. So I mean basically YouTube has
taken over video in America. And Buck has put out
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us to ninety thousand subscribers, he will do a video
with Ginger, his lovely dog, and their chubby baby. And
if you like chubby babies, I mean their three month old.
(19:42):
Speed has unbelievable chubby baby pictures up right now. I
think there may be up at clayanbuck dot com, but
it is pretty outstanding. But we have added thousands of subscribers,
and I think this. I don't even know if Buck
has seen these. I was playing around. I like to
go just look at the data point publicly. I knew
that YouTube was exploding. I knew that we needed to
(20:03):
be over one hundred thousand subscribers there at a minimum,
and by the way, as I talk to you right now,
eighty two and a half thousand subscribers. So I want
this over one hundred. But the impact here is already
pretty pretty stellar. I don't even know if you saw
this book two of the videos that we put up
on Friday. As the YouTube audience grows, it's just a younger,
(20:27):
more dynamic argument culturally that we can continue to have
and impact a lot of different generations. Our discussion of
Tulsa Gabbert about the declassification bombshell sixty one thousand views
on YouTube on Friday. That is one of the biggest
videos we've ever had on YouTube. And then Colbert getting
(20:48):
canceled thirty thousand views. Those just went up on Friday,
two of the biggest videos that we have had there.
I want you, guys to make this show pop on
YouTube like it pops in everywhere else, and by the way,
you can stream it. I am told that I look
ridiculous right now. I look like Kramer because for some reason,
(21:08):
my white Crocket coffee t shirt is showing up and
I look like basically Kramer after he went to the
tanning bed. I am told so if you want to
be enterted. They actually asked me, Hey, can you go
just during the commercial break, Hey can you go claim
chain shirts? Because you look too ridiculous in that white
T shirt that you're in right now. I said no.
(21:29):
This is an incentive for people to go subscribe at YouTube.
You can see the video. I want us going over
one hundred thousand, but thank you for people who are
watching these videos and a big deal big Basically everybody
has their own television network now on YouTube. We want
this show to be big there. Soon in the months ahead,
we're going to be able to put all three full
(21:49):
hours up and you'll be able to watch the whole
show on video. We love the five hundred and fifty
five stations out there, but it's important to follow the
audience people. Now, this is kind of crazy. People now
watch videos of podcasts more than they listened to podcasts.
This evolution, I'll be frank, I never saw it coming.
(22:09):
I didn't think people were going to be sitting around
watching videos of people having conversations that are primarily designed
for audio. But this is where they are. They are
wildly popular. So if you would search out Clay Travis,
if you would search out the Buck Sexton Show, I
want you to drive those numbers over one hundred thousand
subscribers and we're going to be doing more and more
(22:31):
cool content for you there. Okay, speaking of crazy content,
we have got our good buddy Hunter Biden, aka the
smartest man that Joe Biden has ever known. He has
now decided that he needs to weigh in on a
huge variety of different topics. Here is a profanity laced
(22:57):
rant about who's going to clean your hotel room? Who's
gonna wash your dishes? This is Hunter Biden. We've had
to bleep it out. Hopefully we got all the bleeps.
Interview that has just gone viral. Cut twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Listening all these democrats say you have to talk about
and realize that people are really upset about illegal immigration. You,
how do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How
do you think you got food on your table? Who
do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think
does your garden? Who do you think is here by
the sheer? Just grit and will that they've figured out
(23:35):
a way to get here because they thought that they
could give theirselves in their family a better chance. And
he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are criminals.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Hunter Biden, I really, first of all, go away. Hold on.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You're not really giving him his due, because if someone's
going to know about breaking the law, it's Hunter Biden.
So if someone's going to be sitting there talking about
crime and heading away with it, I might add, Hunter Biden,
Clay kind of has a PhD, so maybe we should
give him a little more leeway to talk about the
capers that are being pulled off.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I can't believe some of these quotes. We're going to
play some more of this audio, but I do think
it is instructive of where Democrat party arguments have gone.
They have effectively argued, hey, who's going to be our slaves?
Who's going to do these jobs that nobody else will
do at low wages? And I think most Republicans just say, well,
(24:35):
maybe you should pay Americans more to do those jobs.
I've got a crazy idea, and it may be totally irrational.
Some of you may think that I'm bonkers for this idea.
I think most rational Americans, if they feel like they
are getting a fair wage for a job, will do it.
And maybe there should be a fair wage for some
(24:56):
of these jobs, and maybe Americans would come back in
and do those shops. Now. Look, I understand there are
certain parts of the country where there just aren't enough
people to do jobs. And I would also submit that
maybe everybody doesn't have to live in New York City.
Maybe everybody doesn't have to live in la Maybe if
the cost of living in a city is super high.
(25:18):
There's actually a speaking of the Wall Street Journal, as
reading an article over the weekend, a lot of so
called second tier cities are starting to explode in population
because they're more affordable and the jobs are pretty good.
There a lot of people, for instance, leaving Atlanta and
going to Greenville, South Carolina, or Chattanooga, Tennessee. Some people
(25:38):
leaving Nashville going to Huntsville, Alabama. Shouldn't we shouldn't we
encourage people to go to places where they can have
a better quality of living. You don't all have to
live in the exact same big cities and struggle to
survive there. There's lots of good jobs all over the country.
Find a place, go there. Raleigh, North Carolina is another
one that has exploded in popularity. And make a good living.
(26:00):
I mean this seems like kind of the basis of
why we have fifty states. If you're not living in
a good quality of life where you are right now,
find somewhere else better. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I think if I were advising anybody, I know we've
got college age or recent college grad or just that
age some of you didn't go to college or doing
other things who are listening, And it's a little bit
like the advice I get people now about college, which
I'm just going to say I didn't do this myself.
I looked at the US News and World Report rankings
based in the schools I went to. I visited them,
(26:31):
but I had this mentality of you get into the
highest ranked school, you get into right, And I think
that's the wrong mentality for the most part. A little
different with something like law school. Play went to a
fancy law school. If you're going to go to law school,
go to a fancy one because it's very expensive, and
you know, but for undergrad go where you want to go.
Why am I saying this same thing about where you
(26:52):
want to raise your family? Figure out where you actually
want to be. I think it's I think it's an
e All ravakan quote I said. We got to have
him on some time. I sided enough quotes for him.
I just think he's a brilliant guy. He says, the
two biggest decisions that will affect your life are where
you're live and who you marry. Yeah, bigger than jobs
(27:13):
come and go, even careers come and go. You know,
Clay and I were both doing totally different jobs before
we got into media careers. You can switch who you marry,
where you live, you know, or who do you build
your family with, and where you choose to be. And
America's got a ton of great places that you can
build with the place around you, right. I think it's
(27:36):
very different when when we were coming out of school
as well, early twenties, if you wanted certain jobs, you
had to be in certain places. You had to be
in New York, you had to be in la maybe Chicago,
if the Midwest. You want a big law firm, you
want a kind of a certain kind of financial job.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's all changed, man. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
The only one of the only good things about COVID
is that it made a lot of people explore outside
of their own universe within America of where they could live.
And also it made remote work or mobile work, you know,
jobs where you can go different places and travel more.
I think far more appealing and more normalized if you will.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So, I think that's all. That's all to the good.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And you know, high tax states, if you do them,
I c This is the conversation I've had with people.
I've actually had this with friends of mine, particularly some
people who are my like little sister's age, so eight
years younger than me. I've had this conversation with them
about in recent years because they're now early thirties and.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They're like, New York is so expensive.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'll have my sister and I have this conversation new
York so expensive, and I say, yeah, now do fourteen
percent of your income every year for the next twenty years.
Look at that number, and then look at what that
would be if you just put it as Clay Finance
Clay Gordon Gecko Clay. You put it in the S
(28:59):
and P five hundred in an ETF with low costs.
Anybody can do this. It's about as easy as opening
a bank account and see what that money's worth in
twenty years. It's really tough to want to be in
one in Massachusetts, California, New York to start out. I mean,
it's it's almost unless you have no choice. Unless you know,
(29:21):
I have to work at Goldman Sachs and I have
to be in New York for it, whatever it may be,
I would There is no I've spent a lot of
time in California. I've spent a decent amount of time
in New York. They're fun to visit. I like a
lot of people who live there. There is a zero
percent chance that I would give the government fifteen percent
of my income every year for the opportunity to live
(29:42):
in New York, Chicago or LA or San Francisco or
any other city.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I just wouldn't do it. I don't understand if you
have the choice, how you would choose to do that.
And I think what COVID showed to a lot of
people is there are incredible opportunities all over the country
for people to move and be able to have a
higher quality of life, a more affordable quality of life,
better place to raise your kids, better place to live.
(30:08):
And already, I mean I get fed up about this. Already.
I pay nearly forty percent tax rate, even without talking
about my property taxes, and and I'm fortunately I live
in Tennessee. I don't have state income taxes. I don't
think we talked about enough about this. I do this
show for five days Monday and Tuesday. I do this
show for the federal government. Think about how crazy that is?
(30:31):
You too, both of us sit here every Monday Tuesday.
You hear us, Uncle Sam gets everything that we make.
We just basically are working for the federal government on
Monday and Tuesday. And a lot of you. I don't
think people do the math and sit around and think
about it. But wait a minute, on Monday Tuesday, however
many days of the week you work. If you work
five days, it's a good chance that about two of
(30:52):
those days every like, you don't start making your own
money to Wednesday. This is crazy, and it's just accepted
because we've come to expect that the federal government's just
going to take, like a massive vacuum cleaner, huge percentages
of our money that we're working for. Do I feel
like my federal government is giving me such good returns
(31:14):
that I should have to work for them every Monday
and Tuesday or Thursday and Friday, however you want to
classify it, No, I do not, And I think a
lot of you out there when you actually put it
in that context. You know, you can put it in
context of the months, how many of us? Basically, I
work for the government Monday too, sorry, January, February, March,
April into May. Like, that doesn't seem very fair to me,
(31:37):
So they take fifteen percent more. Do I want to
work for the State of New York for fifteen percent
of my daily time?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I do not. Do I want to work for the
state of California or the state of Illinois, No, I
do not. I think a lot of Americans are getting
fed up with it.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
But Gavin's so grateful, Clay whenever you go to LA
for doing sports stuff, you pay a little bit into
the gaving fund, and he'll have you out for chardonnay.
You know, he's just so pleased, so happy that you're
paying into the giant black hole of California's finances. What
was the deficit they ran this past is huge for
(32:13):
a state. Oh, bill billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, turns out even when you're taxing the you know
what out of people not enough. Isn't that interest never
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Uh.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
So we have so much to discuss here. We've got
the Russia collusion hoax stuff, which I could be wrong, Clay,
but I think it's not going very far, meaning I
don't think anyone's going to prison over this. I tend
to always I think. I don't think I've ever said
someone's not going to prison in these big stories, and
(34:46):
they actually have gone to prison.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So there's that. But I actually wanted.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
To do, you know, Clay, I would like to do
a little sports talk if I now, a little sports
talk coming up here in a few minutes, because I
think that Trump switching names and or telling people that
like the names should go back to the old names
for these teams. And I think that there has been
this mindset among conservatives for a long time of we
just were trying to stop the madness and culturally stop
(35:14):
the bleeding. Yep, Trump takes the Trump is taking the
approach of no, why don't we actually just set things
right the way it were, wasn't it. In one of
the Superman episodes where Lois Lane like dies and he
turns the earth, he like spins the earth backwards, and
then he saves her.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Right. Trump is kind of pulling that a little bit here.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
He's saying, we can actually go back in time and
go back to the America that we were used to.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm glad because I do think this is important. And
for those of you who don't know, Trump over the
weekend said hey, I want the Washington Redskins name back,
and I want the Cleveland Indians name back. And some
people immediately say, well, isn't there more significant things to
focus on, which is what you can say basically for
(35:59):
anything at any point in time, depending on what you
consider to be the most significant. But I think what
you hit on, Buck is important. Trump is trying to
reverse the entire woke era, and there were lots of
reasonable people, and I would like to think that I
was a reasonable person who thought, hey, let's just negotiate
over these mascot names. If we give up Redskins, if
(36:21):
we give up Indians, eventually they'll stop. It didn't happen.
The Atlanta Braves are a next in line. Oh, you
can't do the tomahawk chop anymore. The Kansas City Chiefs
and this is writ large all over the entirety of
the nation, where they've come after mascot name. I think
what Trump is doing here is actually symbolically hugely important
(36:43):
and significant and as an important cultural marker. We'll talk
about that, plus more crazy hunter By and Neck
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