In this eye-opening episode, Tudor dives into the deep-rooted legacy of political manipulation and the enduring impact of the Russia collusion narrative. Investigative journalist John Solomon, whose reporting began uncovering key details back in 2016, exposes how intelligence tools were weaponized—posing a serious threat to civil liberties. We examine the lack of accountability for those involved, the cultural shift in political strategy under the Obama administration, and how public trust has eroded in the wake of media and political misdirection—including the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. With a focus on the power of investigative journalism, this episode unpacks how past political maneuvers continue to shape America’s present—and future. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have one of
my favorite people here at John Solomon. He is an
award winning investigative journalist and the founder and editor in
chief of Just the News plus the host of John
Solomon Reports.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
John, Welcome back to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Good to be with you, Tutor.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So you have so much going on, and we'd already
talked to some folks about Russian collusion, and it was
funny because in those interviews they're like, oh, well, John
Solomon's been reporting on this for years, and I was like, yes,
I need to have John Solomon come on and tell
us all about.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
This because you have all the history. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, listen, I'll remind everybody how I got involved with
Sarah Carter on unraveling the Russia collusion story, because when
it first broke in October of sixteen, I was told
flatly by senior FBI officials it wasn't true. Don't make
a big deal out of it, It's not going anywhere.
In fact, one of the senior officials I talked to
use the term no big there there, which Pete Struck
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would later use in his text messages when they became
publicly disgraced that FBI agent. But in March of seventeen,
I did break a story on unmasking that in the
last year of the Obama administration there had been this
explosion of Obama officials unmasking the conversations during the election
of Americans that had been accidentally intercepted by the NSA.
You're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to have
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the protection of civil liberties. You normally need a warrant,
but they had this back door called unmasking, which is
you can ask to see it, and if you want
to know who the American is that we intercepted, you
just get the name, and it basically eviscerates our civil liberties.
And it had gone up by hundreds of percent in
the last year of Obama. It was a very important
civil liberty story from my standpoint. Sarah and I got
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off television that night it was March of seventeen, and
I drive home and I pull into my driveway. It's
about ten o'clock in nine ten thirty. It was about
ten thirty at night, and there's a blue government car
sitting outside my driveway with its parking lights on, right
by my mailbox. I pull in. Two guys get out.
They're clearly gi men, and they say you John Solomon,
and I said, yes, I am. And hey, we saw
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what you were reporting on today and we want to
let you know it's the tip of a very large iceberg.
I'm like, what are you guys talking about, Like, well,
most of it's classified. I'm like, well, that doesn't help me.
And they said something that now which drove my reporting
and Sarah's reporting and everyone who's worked on this with
me over the last seven or eight years. They said
something that now I understand how profoundly serious it was.
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They said, the intelligence community and the FBI were used
to carry out a political dirty trick using the most
awesome tools that the American people gave us. Were only
supposed to use them to fight counter terrorism and counterintelligence threats,
but we use them to carry out a dirty trick,
and you need to expose it. And they gave me
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no more detail.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
By the way, So you came home and these guys
are outside of your house like you're onto something secretly,
they come to you.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's what happened. And they said one last thing, and
I went right downstairs to my basement office. I said
I said hello to my wife, goodbye. My wife went downstairs,
and I typed up everything because I didn't have notes
at the time. I typed up everything I could remember,
and I sent an email to Sarah Carter and that's
what started us. But the last thing they said is
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the most profound thing, which is if Americans find out
how we misused and abuse these tools, they will take
these tools away from us, and we will no longer
be safe from the real terrorism threats and the real
counterintelligence and spy threats that you ask us to protect
you from every day. And that was profound. I don't know.
They never gave me their names, they didn't tell me
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their agencies. I have a theory that they worked for
a very specific spy agency that wasn't the CIA. But
that is what started us out. And when you look
now eight years and I probably a couple hundred stories
of mine later, you now see that that's exactly what happened.
That Barack Obama's told in late July twenty sixteen that
Hillary Clinton is going to hang a fake, dirty sh
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on Donald Trump's house called Russia Collusion. It's a dirty trick.
They intercepted it, and Barack Obama and John Brennan decide
we're not going to stop the FBI and the CIA
from going down this path. In fact, we might right
alongside them and give it credits and credibility even though
it's a bogus, dirty trick. And that meant misleading the
FISA court. It meant misleading the American public in an
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official intelligence product of the United States called the Intelligence
Community Assessment. It means launching a special console investigation by Mueller.
It means a filing false FISA applications on multiple occasions.
It means when that goes AWRYE And now you've created
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a modus operandi of the government saying whenever Donald Trump
does something, we can just take a fing shingle on them.
That means in Ukraine, impeachment is manufactured through a whistleblower
complaint for which I think there are significant accuracy issues.
And then it means in twenty twenty, when Donald Trump
is trying to say there are I'm concerned about the
integrity of our election, and we get a China report
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saying China's making fake driver's licenses in Michigan to do it,
you look the other way. You don't investigate it because
it might help Donald Trump. And then in twenty twenty
two you might be going to mar A Lago and
investigating Donald Trump for classified documents because you know that
Joe Biden has a problem and you want to neutralize
that problem. Now you look at that continuum and you
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understand why those guys who came to my driveway that
night were so concerned that if it didn't stop in seventeen,
it might become something that we never would be able
to put the toothpaste back into the intelligence too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, but have we really because there hasn't been an
really haven't been officially exposed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
No. And by the way, the temptable what's the penalty
for doing all the things that we did. There's been
no real penalty. Some lawyer had to plead guilty to
a crime and he got a slap on the wrist
by Judge Boseburg. No one else's but yees. Some people
got fired, some people lost their penn then they got
a settlement after they lost their pension. I mean, people
have failed up in this continuum and the temptation to
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keep doing this in the future, to manipulate future elections
using the psychological operations, intelligence and counter terrorism tools. It's
as attempting now as it was in sixteen when they
crossed that rubicon. I think we're at a watershed moment.
If there isn't some significant accountability soon, I think this
is going to become the norm, not the abnorm, of
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normality in the intelligence community and the America we know
is not going to be the same.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And the intelligence tools. Is this like listening in on us?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh, it's effisive, right. It's the ability to spy at
every aspect of a person's life. It's the ability to
unmask a conversation that you intercepted without a warrant. It's
the ability to create illusion. I mean, look at how
brilliant the illusion of Russia collusion was. They never ever
said Donald Trump was stooge, but they convinced it sixty
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percent of America by twenty seventeen that he was a
Russian stooge working for Vladimir Putin. They wrote an intelligence report,
knowing that it was predicated on the Steele dossier and
other dubious intelligence, and they declared that Vladimir Putin's intention
was to help Donald Trump win the election. People still
believe that today, thirty forty percent, and they didn't have
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an iota of evidence to base that on. It was
garbage intelligence. I do think all those tools use psychological operations,
which is the ability to create the illusion using intelligence
tools of a falsehood but make it look real. Fis spying,
special consuls, investigations, FBI authorities, search warrants, raids on people's homes,
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and at the end of the day, there are people
whose reputations will never be restored from what happened to
them in sixteen seventeen. My journalism reputation will never be
restored from the bogus allegations of my Ukraine reporting. There's
no way to fix those people's lives and reputations. They
were ruined forever, and we now know that they were
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ruined for a false cause.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. What can those people, including you,
what can you do now? When we spoke about this
last week, the suggestion was civil lawsuits and civil lawsuits.
I think people go, well, oh, there's no criminal effect
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to that, but oftentimes civil lawsuits the loss of some
financial gain, you know, going after someone's finances and taking
that money away is a big warning sign to other
people like, oh, you know, I mean not everybody is Obama.
Some of these people don't have millions upon millions of
dollars just waiting for someone to take them.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Take it. That's it. Well, that's it. And also to
fund these lawsuits. They don't come for free, So victims
don't have the money to fight for five years against
the government that can spend one hundred million dollars trying
to defeat you. Carter Page tried, he lost. Why did
he lose because the best evidence that would show he
was a real victim was kept from US for five, six, seven,
eight years. The government has already won. The people who
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perpetrated this fraud, they've already won. No matter what happens
going forward, they already won. They achieved their goals. They
convince the American people that Hunter Biden's laptop was not
real when it was. They convinced the American public that
Donald Trump shouldn't be trusted as an early president because
he was Vladimir Putin's asset. They convinced us that there
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was no reason to ask the Ukrainians to investigate Hunter
Biden when there was a big reason to do that,
and they gave us four indictments of President Trump to
try to tell us you shouldn't vote against them. And
we now know much of that evidence is suspect in
the legal argument, suspect they already got what they wanted
out of it. All that's left. The only thing that
Pam Bonni can do, if she has the courage to
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do it, is to create a disincentive that so nobody
in the future is tempted to do it again, because
the penalty will be so severe. But eight years of
political history or forever altered. They'll never be gotten back.
My Wikipedia page, we'll never get back. And that's a
small thing compared to the people who suffered much, greatly
greatly I did, Mike Flynn and others. I mean, think
about Mike Flynn. The FBI decides on January fourth, twenty seventeen,
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he's not committed a crime. They've turned his life upside
down for three or four months. They want to clear him,
and Barack Obama decides to have a meeting the next
day in his office and they concoct a scheme to
keep him under criminal investigation, maybe trip him up into
a lie. Is that the sort of president an intelligence
establishment we want in the future.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Why Donald Trump, though, why didn't it happen earlier? I mean,
why didn't Why didn't they go after the Bushes? Why
didn't they do this to Reagan? Why is it that
they started this with Donald Trump? Or were there things
that we just don't know?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think the obam era, when we finally find out
the truth, not the romanticized version that we were force
fed by the legacy media for most of the Obama years,
when we're done, Barack Obama created a cultural shift. There
are certain more rays in Washington. You didn't cross all right,
You can play a political dirty trick in an ad,
you can put some oppo research out, but you don't
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use the FBI and the CIA to do it. Barack
Obama's team crossed that rubicon. And then it's the danger
now is that it could become the norm for history.
But Barack Obama's era is the era where people were
willing to do things that no other earlier generation of
Americans were willing to do. Whether Barack Obama himself deserves
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the personal responsibility of that or the people he surrounded
himself does, needs to be determined on the evidence he
deserves the benefit of the doubt. I want to remind
people that Russia collusion began way before anyone thought Donald
Trump had a snowballs chance in hell of being the president.
It starts in December fifteenth with a project that we
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know that Nelly orr is working on, and it starts
with a poll that I write about in my book.
A lot of people miss this factor, but I think
it's really important now. Hillary Clinton commissions a poll in
late fifteen with her team to find out which of
all the scandals in her life are the ones that
are going to keep her from becoming president. And she's
certain it's going to be the email scandal, which is
boiling at that point. I had broken that story in
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the summer of fifteen at the Washington Times. But to
her amazement, the poll comes back and says Russia collusion,
the fact that her husband took a five hundred thousand
dollars payment from Donald Trump, I'll jim me from Vladimir
Putin's people. And in the Obama the Clinton teams reboot
became a great financial benefit to the Democrats, but didn't
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actually improve our relationships with Russia, our national security that's
going to be the thing. It was the Peter Schweitzer
Clinton cash book. That was it, and they.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Stic rise corruption. People don't like.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It, Yeah, and they start the effort to find Russia
dirt on whoever the Republican nominees going to be in
December of fifteen. I don't think they thought Donald Trump
had a chance in hell of being the president at
that point, and to their amazement, he becomes the guy
and they just hang the shingle on him. But they
needed to neutralize the Russia issue long before the American
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public knew it was going to be an issue.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Why what did the Obama administration do that They didn't
want a Republican and after them, because obviously it was
if you're saying this, then they wanted Hillary there.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Why it's the extension of the Obama legacy. It takes
it from the eight year and four year cycle to
the twelve year cycle that Reagan got, which Democrats said
seldom had over the course of their time. I think
they didn't like Donald Trump personally. They feared populism. They
saw what happened in Brexit and they thought Donald Trump
was the US exit and they had to stop that.
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I mean, the Obama years of the years when the
globalists begin to merge as the dominant force in the
Democratic Party. Before that, the Conservatives and the Cheney era
were the big US police force. And then that the
counter reaction to the big American police forces that we're
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gonna have globalism going forward. America will repress itself and
we'll all live in a globalist world. And those globalists
take over all these agencies in that timeframe. And Donald
Trump was the potential Brexit disruptor, and he posed a
greater threat than the other Republicans, so as time went on,
they needed to pin them down. Now we see those
populous everywhere in the world reviewed as a threat by
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the globalists. And that's why you got the Bolsonaro thing,
you got the South Korean prime minister being impeached over
you know, a martial law. They got may been a
wrong idea, but is it really impeachable? I think I
think now the playbook is worldwide. America is the one
place that's kind of counteracting it a little.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Bit, a little bit so you but you.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But when you go back to the Obama My era,
it wasn't this insanity over we have to have an
open border.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
We have to let everybody in. We have to.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
We have to have this this situation where well he's
he kind of started that. They I guess he did
really start the hate on police. It wasn't fully defund police.
He started hating on the police, and then we moved
into defund the police whenever starting.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
All of this, I think Obama is a transitionary period
to a He had a more extreme agenda, and he
was very good most of the time at moderating it
and moving it along a little bit. It's just gay marriage,
it's not transgender rights, but gay marriage moved on to
transgender rights and to where we are today, where we're
willing to physically may make child in the name of
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a transgender ideology. Whether that child knows the consequences to it,
that starts. But he was very good at masking it
in moderated language. He was an enormous even listen, whatever
you want to say about Black Obama, the dude can
give great speeches. He was an enormous or raider. He
was one of the great operators of the presidency, and
he could sell something as not as radical as it
might have been. But there are moments in his presidency
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where he tipped his hand. Remember the famous dismissing moment
where he says, all those people are just God's guns
and Bible people. He knew he looked down on those people,
the populace, the working class, those who believe that America
should be put first. And when Donald Trump comes along,
his ability to keep that course of the country is
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in great danger, much more than if a Marco Ruby
or Ted Cruz or Ben Carson had been elected. And
so they go from having to hang a Russian shingle
on a Republican's house just to neutralize a political liability
to we got to destroy this guy because he could
turn the world upside down. Our master plan could be
set back. And I think that's when we're done with history,
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when we're done with the actual facts, not the ones
we've been force fed. I think that's what we might
find behind that dirty curtain.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So what are we going to find about law fair
and attempt at assassinations?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Because are those going to connect back.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think the American public has looked now we've stepped
back from this election, and we've said there was a
dirty plan to destroy his first term, and they took
a lot of that away.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
From him.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I mean, they effectively took a lot of his first
term away. So he has this four years and he
is overwhelmingly popular. Even though they think they have him,
they think they've destroyed him. That the I mean, it
was kind of crazy when you watched the Republican primary.
No matter what, he's not going to debates, He's not
out there with those people.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
He is just.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Blowing them away regardless. He is so popular, and they
start to really panic and you can see it, and
they start these lawsuits and they raid Mara a Lago.
They can't be held accountable for that.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, to be determined, right, Cash Mattel has opened up
what we call the Grand Conspiracy case. He opened it
up in April. His FBI team did. It's actually not
him personally. He lets the agents follow the evidence and
they treat this as a wash, rinse, and repeat cycle,
much like you would treat the mob in your extortion cases.
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It's prohibition liquor, then it's illegal gambling and taking over Vegas,
and you can treat the mob and then you can
go back and charge things that are way outside the
statute of limitations. So Donald Claring Hillary Clinton when there
was evidence still to potentially indeter is one act in
an overt conspiracy. Hanging the Russia shingle on Donald Trump
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becomes another Ukraine raiding his home. You can tie Jack
Smith all the way back to Hillary Clinton and James
Comby the summer sixteen. That's called a grand conspiracy case.
We used it against the mob, we used it against
the drug cartels. Will Pambondi go the route that the
FBI has predicated a case on it, We don't know yet.
But her first action, the first thing she's actually done
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to address this last few weeks, is she named a
strike force. A strike force is like an all star team.
Think of it as a nineteen eighty four Olympic All
Star team of a basketball player as well. These are
your best prosecutors the FBI. You put them together and
you say, see, if this is a conspiracy, That's what
they did to take the mob down. That's what they
did to take the early Columbian drug cartels down. The
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fact that she chose that tool seems to hint that
maybe she's going in that direction. And then it will
come down to what's the evidence. Where are you going
to bring the charges? Do you bring them in Florida
with Jack Smith's right, or do you bring him in Washington, DC,
where John Durham lost two cases that a lot of
people thought were slam dunks. Those are big questions. The
decisions DJ makes will determine whether we get any accountability
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or just another depressing round of disclosures and no accountability.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Who do you think should be held accountable?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I mean, you've talked about Brennan, Joe Biden is apparently
irresponsible for the unmasking of I think it was Michael Flynn.
Then he was responsible for the unmasking of Michael Flynn,
and then you've got Obama and Reason there too.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So who's who gets held accountable?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I don't know yet. I mean, I don't think after
all the work I've done, I have all the evidence.
I'm not trying to welch on the issue. Listen, I
know for certain my reporting has proven that there is
a political conspiracy of epic proportions. Whether it rises to
a criminal level that a grand jury would hand up
an indictment and then a jury would convict, We're a
long ways from knowing that, and I suspect, even after
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the two three, four hundred stories I've written on this,
we don't know all the other Listen. I still am
getting foyas right now that show emphatically that people who
testified in the twenty nineteen Ukraine impeachment lide they were
just not telling the truth. I still get foyas every
day that show things that went on in the early
Trump years that now we know to be mirages. It
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took us fifty or sixty years to get some truth
on Kennedy's assassination. It took us many many decades to
know the truth about al Capone. I don't know how
long it is before we have the full body evidence.
So because say that's the quarterback, that was the Godfather,
that's the Capeoard, that's a lieutenant, these people should be prosecuted.
And by the way, that's the brilliance of what the
left did. They made this so complicated it would take
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a decade or more to unravel.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm not sure people understand when you say it's even
for you to get your reputation back, to get the
Wikipedia page back, what that actually means. And I think
it's important that the American people understand when you see
someone I mean, I was listening to you on Fox News,
like three times a week going through all of this stuff,
and then you know, suddenly I'm seeing less and less
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of John Solomon. But when you are an investigative reporter,
your integrity, and this is something my father always talked about,
was like, don't question my integrity ever, because once you
have somebody questioning your integrity, you lose all of your
credibility when you go places. So tell us a little
bit about what they took from you, so people can
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understand when you say this is a big deal, and
you are one who didn't end up going through a trial.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, listen. I don't consider myself a victim, but I
do realize that there was a significant operation run against me.
I had succeeded in unraveling the Russia collusion as a reporter,
and done so enough so that even prosecutors and the
Inspector General affirmed my reporting, even the Washington Post. I
to acknowledge that at some point, and then I started
to pivot because at the end of my reporting on
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Russia collusion, my sources told me at the same time
they were falsely of pursuing President Trump on Russia collusion,
they were turning a blind eye to Hunter Biden that
I get that information. In December twenty eighteen, as I'm
wrapping up my first round of Russia collusion reporting, and
I write the first epic stories about Hunter Biden that
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President Vice President Biden threatened to hold withhold a billion
dollars of aid if the Ukrainian government didn't fire the
prosecutor who happened to have an investigation against his son,
Hunter Biden and Burisma. It is March of Time, twenty
nineteen when that happens. A funny thing happens for the
first two months after I break that story, because the
story is factually impeccable. New York Times, ABC News and
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others confirmed the story, and then an operation is run
to make it look like I was in bed with
Russian conspiracy theorists and Rudy Giuliani. I was conflicted from
treating Rudy Giuliani as a source. I couldn't use him
as a source. I tried to tell every reporter I offered,
every reporter. I filed a conflict of interest notice because
The Hill had asked me to work with Rudy on
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a podcast. Because I had a business relationship in my
corporate role, I could not use him as a source.
I literally filed a document that said, from this point forward,
I can't use Rudy Giuliani as a source until we
decide whether we're in business with him. Everybody in the
Hill knew I wasn't using Rudy Giuliani. Everybody in the
Hill knew my sources were the FBI. But in the public,
not a single reporter who wrote a story saying I
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had become a conspiracy theorist would look at that evident
and they wouldn't look at it. And you know, I'm
named in an intelligence community whistlebower complaint that I was
talking to Russia. Nope, I was talking to the FBI. And
at some point in the summer of twenty twenty two,
my lawyer cooperates with the Justice Department. The Justice Department thinks,
oh my god, this shows how bad the Justice Department is,
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the Biden Justice Department. They think I'm coming in and
I'm going to drop the dime on Rudy Giuliani because
they haven't been able to prove thank god. And I'm like, Okay,
here's the deal. I'm going to give my documents. And
my sources declared me to give my documents but you
got to put me before the grand jury. That's all
I want. I want my chance to talk to the
grand jury because my name has been smeared. So I
walk in and they apparently you know, my lawyer walks in,
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drops these doctums, like wait a second, we were John source,
Like yeah, you the Justice Department of the FBI, you
were my source. Look at my documents, look at my notes.
And then like two days later, Rudy gets his devices back.
I never got to go before the grand jury, but
once they looked at the evidence, I had to like,
oh my god, he got this legitimately, and no, it's
all true. Now what's happened since then? The very thing
that I report that Joe Biden personally tried to and
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his team was that Hunter Biden didn't pay taxes on
his Briessman money in Ukraine. What did we learn? Oh,
when the FBI irs whistleblowers whose story I broke as well,
come forward, what did we learn he didn't pay his
taxes on the Briefema money he was making in Ukraine.
It wasn't a conspiracy theory. I had the documents all along.
But my Wikipedia page says I'm a disgraced journalist. I
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don't get invites to most mainstream journalism events anymore. I
looked down upon even though I was accurate. Now I'm
a small victim. I didn't go have to plead guilty
to a crime like Michael Flynn. I didn't spend millions
of dollars in legal bills like many other people did.
So I don't want to cry victim one second. But
if that can happen to a guy who wrote legitimately
accurate stories, look what happened to people who couldn't defend
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themselves from the great power of the government. That's what
those guys in the driveway were warning about.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. You think that these are victimless crimes,
but even if you say why, I wasn't a bit
a huge victim known, But this is your livelihood, this
is what you do for a living, and discrediting you
is as significant. They knew they had power in doing that.
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And then you watch that interview. I'll just say this
really quickly. You watch that interview with Hunter Biden, and
I don't know if you watched the entire three hour interview.
It scared me because he talks like a politician. Well,
if I were to run for office in three to
four years, I would go to Al Salvador and empty
the prisons and have those people flown back here. He's
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telling you what he believes, and I believe that's what
the Democrat Party believes.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We will just restart this. We've just got a few
years off. We'll just restart it all.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He talks about transgenderism, he talks about making sure these
criminal illegals are here on the streets. To me, that's scary.
And he wasn't held accountable for anything that he's done,
and he could run for office.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, that's right, he's been pardoned. Yeah, listen, I think
your description of what's going on is right on. I
listened to your podcast often and I love it because
I think you're giving common sense Americans in the Middle
of America the truth. And the great thing is Middle
America knows that they were sold an incredible bill of
Bogi's goods.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
They know they did.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, and they're not going to date that same person again.
They're not right, true, but they'll paint up someone else
to be the next Joe Biden. Hunter Biden, and the
illusion of falling for that person is high, particularly if
the intelligence and law enforcement apparatus of this government can
still put their finger on the scale, which right now
they could.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And just as you're talking about why Hillary Clinton was
afraid that would come back to haunt her at the
Russia collusion and she ended up flipping that script, I mean,
I look at just Gretchen Whitmer, what she's done here
with taking the twenty million dollar grant and giving it
to a friend and taking tax pay dollars and probably
getting kickbacks on that. I mean, those are the types
that they is that when you see politicians doing that,
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that person is dirty and you should get away from them.
And that's why we so enjoy what you do at
Just the News. John Solomon, thank you so much for
coming on.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Great to be with you, Tutor.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Thanks yeah, absolutely, and thank you all for joining us
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have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have one of
my favorite people here at John Solomon. He is an
award winning investigative journalist and the founder and editor in
chief of Just the News plus the host of John
Solomon Reports.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
John, Welcome back to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Good to be with you, Tutor.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So you have so much going on, and we'd already
talked to some folks about Russian collusion, and it was
funny because in those interviews they're like, oh, well, John
Solomon's been reporting on this for years, and I was like, yes,
I need to have John Solomon come on and tell
us all about.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
This because you have all the history. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, listen, I'll remind everybody how I got involved with
Sarah Carter on unraveling the Russia collusion story, because when
it first broke in October of sixteen, I was told
flatly by senior FBI officials it wasn't true. Don't make
a big deal out of it, It's not going anywhere.
In fact, one of the senior officials I talked to
use the term no big there there, which Pete Struck
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would later use in his text messages when they became
publicly disgraced that FBI agent. But in March of seventeen,
I did break a story on unmasking that in the
last year of the Obama administration there had been this
explosion of Obama officials unmasking the conversations during the election
of Americans that had been accidentally intercepted by the NSA.
You're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to have
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the protection of civil liberties. You normally need a warrant,
but they had this back door called unmasking, which is
you can ask to see it, and if you want
to know who the American is that we intercepted, you
just get the name, and it basically eviscerates our civil liberties.
And it had gone up by hundreds of percent in
the last year of Obama. It was a very important
civil liberty story from my standpoint. Sarah and I got
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off television that night it was March of seventeen, and
I drive home and I pull into my driveway. It's
about ten o'clock in nine ten thirty. It was about
ten thirty at night, and there's a blue government car
sitting outside my driveway with its parking lights on, right
by my mailbox. I pull in. Two guys get out.
They're clearly gi men, and they say you John Solomon,
and I said, yes, I am. And hey, we saw
(02:04):
what you were reporting on today and we want to
let you know it's the tip of a very large iceberg.
I'm like, what are you guys talking about, Like, well,
most of it's classified. I'm like, well, that doesn't help me.
And they said something that now which drove my reporting
and Sarah's reporting and everyone who's worked on this with
me over the last seven or eight years. They said
something that now I understand how profoundly serious it was.
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They said, the intelligence community and the FBI were used
to carry out a political dirty trick using the most
awesome tools that the American people gave us. Were only
supposed to use them to fight counter terrorism and counterintelligence threats,
but we use them to carry out a dirty trick,
and you need to expose it. And they gave me
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no more detail.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
By the way, So you came home and these guys
are outside of your house like you're onto something secretly,
they come to you.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's what happened. And they said one last thing, and
I went right downstairs to my basement office. I said
I said hello to my wife, goodbye. My wife went downstairs,
and I typed up everything because I didn't have notes
at the time. I typed up everything I could remember,
and I sent an email to Sarah Carter and that's
what started us. But the last thing they said is
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the most profound thing, which is if Americans find out
how we misused and abuse these tools, they will take
these tools away from us, and we will no longer
be safe from the real terrorism threats and the real
counterintelligence and spy threats that you ask us to protect
you from every day. And that was profound. I don't know.
They never gave me their names, they didn't tell me
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their agencies. I have a theory that they worked for
a very specific spy agency that wasn't the CIA. But
that is what started us out. And when you look
now eight years and I probably a couple hundred stories
of mine later, you now see that that's exactly what happened.
That Barack Obama's told in late July twenty sixteen that
Hillary Clinton is going to hang a fake, dirty sh
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on Donald Trump's house called Russia Collusion. It's a dirty trick.
They intercepted it, and Barack Obama and John Brennan decide
we're not going to stop the FBI and the CIA
from going down this path. In fact, we might right
alongside them and give it credits and credibility even though
it's a bogus, dirty trick. And that meant misleading the
FISA court. It meant misleading the American public in an
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official intelligence product of the United States called the Intelligence
Community Assessment. It means launching a special console investigation by Mueller.
It means a filing false FISA applications on multiple occasions.
It means when that goes AWRYE And now you've created
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a modus operandi of the government saying whenever Donald Trump
does something, we can just take a fing shingle on them.
That means in Ukraine, impeachment is manufactured through a whistleblower
complaint for which I think there are significant accuracy issues.
And then it means in twenty twenty, when Donald Trump
is trying to say there are I'm concerned about the
integrity of our election, and we get a China report
(05:05):
saying China's making fake driver's licenses in Michigan to do it,
you look the other way. You don't investigate it because
it might help Donald Trump. And then in twenty twenty
two you might be going to mar A Lago and
investigating Donald Trump for classified documents because you know that
Joe Biden has a problem and you want to neutralize
that problem. Now you look at that continuum and you
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understand why those guys who came to my driveway that
night were so concerned that if it didn't stop in seventeen,
it might become something that we never would be able
to put the toothpaste back into the intelligence too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, but have we really because there hasn't been an
really haven't been officially exposed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
No. And by the way, the temptable what's the penalty
for doing all the things that we did. There's been
no real penalty. Some lawyer had to plead guilty to
a crime and he got a slap on the wrist
by Judge Boseburg. No one else's but yees. Some people
got fired, some people lost their penn then they got
a settlement after they lost their pension. I mean, people
have failed up in this continuum and the temptation to
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keep doing this in the future, to manipulate future elections
using the psychological operations, intelligence and counter terrorism tools. It's
as attempting now as it was in sixteen when they
crossed that rubicon. I think we're at a watershed moment.
If there isn't some significant accountability soon, I think this
is going to become the norm, not the abnorm, of
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normality in the intelligence community and the America we know
is not going to be the same.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And the intelligence tools. Is this like listening in on us?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh, it's effisive, right. It's the ability to spy at
every aspect of a person's life. It's the ability to
unmask a conversation that you intercepted without a warrant. It's
the ability to create illusion. I mean, look at how
brilliant the illusion of Russia collusion was. They never ever
said Donald Trump was stooge, but they convinced it sixty
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percent of America by twenty seventeen that he was a
Russian stooge working for Vladimir Putin. They wrote an intelligence report,
knowing that it was predicated on the Steele dossier and
other dubious intelligence, and they declared that Vladimir Putin's intention
was to help Donald Trump win the election. People still
believe that today, thirty forty percent, and they didn't have
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an iota of evidence to base that on. It was
garbage intelligence. I do think all those tools use psychological operations,
which is the ability to create the illusion using intelligence
tools of a falsehood but make it look real. Fis spying,
special consuls, investigations, FBI authorities, search warrants, raids on people's homes,
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and at the end of the day, there are people
whose reputations will never be restored from what happened to
them in sixteen seventeen. My journalism reputation will never be
restored from the bogus allegations of my Ukraine reporting. There's
no way to fix those people's lives and reputations. They
were ruined forever, and we now know that they were
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ruined for a false cause.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. What can those people, including you,
what can you do now? When we spoke about this
last week, the suggestion was civil lawsuits and civil lawsuits.
I think people go, well, oh, there's no criminal effect
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to that, but oftentimes civil lawsuits the loss of some
financial gain, you know, going after someone's finances and taking
that money away is a big warning sign to other
people like, oh, you know, I mean not everybody is Obama.
Some of these people don't have millions upon millions of
dollars just waiting for someone to take them.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Take it. That's it. Well, that's it. And also to
fund these lawsuits. They don't come for free, So victims
don't have the money to fight for five years against
the government that can spend one hundred million dollars trying
to defeat you. Carter Page tried, he lost. Why did
he lose because the best evidence that would show he
was a real victim was kept from US for five, six, seven,
eight years. The government has already won. The people who
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perpetrated this fraud, they've already won. No matter what happens
going forward, they already won. They achieved their goals. They
convince the American people that Hunter Biden's laptop was not
real when it was. They convinced the American public that
Donald Trump shouldn't be trusted as an early president because
he was Vladimir Putin's asset. They convinced us that there
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was no reason to ask the Ukrainians to investigate Hunter
Biden when there was a big reason to do that,
and they gave us four indictments of President Trump to
try to tell us you shouldn't vote against them. And
we now know much of that evidence is suspect in
the legal argument, suspect they already got what they wanted
out of it. All that's left. The only thing that
Pam Bonni can do, if she has the courage to
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do it, is to create a disincentive that so nobody
in the future is tempted to do it again, because
the penalty will be so severe. But eight years of
political history or forever altered. They'll never be gotten back.
My Wikipedia page, we'll never get back. And that's a
small thing compared to the people who suffered much, greatly
greatly I did, Mike Flynn and others. I mean, think
about Mike Flynn. The FBI decides on January fourth, twenty seventeen,
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he's not committed a crime. They've turned his life upside
down for three or four months. They want to clear him,
and Barack Obama decides to have a meeting the next
day in his office and they concoct a scheme to
keep him under criminal investigation, maybe trip him up into
a lie. Is that the sort of president an intelligence
establishment we want in the future.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Why Donald Trump, though, why didn't it happen earlier? I mean,
why didn't Why didn't they go after the Bushes? Why
didn't they do this to Reagan? Why is it that
they started this with Donald Trump? Or were there things
that we just don't know?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think the obam era, when we finally find out
the truth, not the romanticized version that we were force
fed by the legacy media for most of the Obama years,
when we're done, Barack Obama created a cultural shift. There
are certain more rays in Washington. You didn't cross all right,
You can play a political dirty trick in an ad,
you can put some oppo research out, but you don't
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use the FBI and the CIA to do it. Barack
Obama's team crossed that rubicon. And then it's the danger
now is that it could become the norm for history.
But Barack Obama's era is the era where people were
willing to do things that no other earlier generation of
Americans were willing to do. Whether Barack Obama himself deserves
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the personal responsibility of that or the people he surrounded
himself does, needs to be determined on the evidence he
deserves the benefit of the doubt. I want to remind
people that Russia collusion began way before anyone thought Donald
Trump had a snowballs chance in hell of being the president.
It starts in December fifteenth with a project that we
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know that Nelly orr is working on, and it starts
with a poll that I write about in my book.
A lot of people miss this factor, but I think
it's really important now. Hillary Clinton commissions a poll in
late fifteen with her team to find out which of
all the scandals in her life are the ones that
are going to keep her from becoming president. And she's
certain it's going to be the email scandal, which is
boiling at that point. I had broken that story in
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the summer of fifteen at the Washington Times. But to
her amazement, the poll comes back and says Russia collusion,
the fact that her husband took a five hundred thousand
dollars payment from Donald Trump, I'll jim me from Vladimir
Putin's people. And in the Obama the Clinton teams reboot
became a great financial benefit to the Democrats, but didn't
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actually improve our relationships with Russia, our national security that's
going to be the thing. It was the Peter Schweitzer
Clinton cash book. That was it, and they.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Stic rise corruption. People don't like.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It, Yeah, and they start the effort to find Russia
dirt on whoever the Republican nominees going to be in
December of fifteen. I don't think they thought Donald Trump
had a chance in hell of being the president at
that point, and to their amazement, he becomes the guy
and they just hang the shingle on him. But they
needed to neutralize the Russia issue long before the American
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public knew it was going to be an issue.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Why what did the Obama administration do that They didn't
want a Republican and after them, because obviously it was
if you're saying this, then they wanted Hillary there.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Why it's the extension of the Obama legacy. It takes
it from the eight year and four year cycle to
the twelve year cycle that Reagan got, which Democrats said
seldom had over the course of their time. I think
they didn't like Donald Trump personally. They feared populism. They
saw what happened in Brexit and they thought Donald Trump
was the US exit and they had to stop that.
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I mean, the Obama years of the years when the
globalists begin to merge as the dominant force in the
Democratic Party. Before that, the Conservatives and the Cheney era
were the big US police force. And then that the
counter reaction to the big American police forces that we're
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gonna have globalism going forward. America will repress itself and
we'll all live in a globalist world. And those globalists
take over all these agencies in that timeframe. And Donald
Trump was the potential Brexit disruptor, and he posed a
greater threat than the other Republicans, so as time went on,
they needed to pin them down. Now we see those
populous everywhere in the world reviewed as a threat by
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the globalists. And that's why you got the Bolsonaro thing,
you got the South Korean prime minister being impeached over
you know, a martial law. They got may been a
wrong idea, but is it really impeachable? I think I
think now the playbook is worldwide. America is the one
place that's kind of counteracting it a little.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Bit, a little bit so you but you.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But when you go back to the Obama My era,
it wasn't this insanity over we have to have an
open border.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
We have to let everybody in. We have to.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
We have to have this this situation where well he's
he kind of started that. They I guess he did
really start the hate on police. It wasn't fully defund police.
He started hating on the police, and then we moved
into defund the police whenever starting.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
All of this, I think Obama is a transitionary period
to a He had a more extreme agenda, and he
was very good most of the time at moderating it
and moving it along a little bit. It's just gay marriage,
it's not transgender rights, but gay marriage moved on to
transgender rights and to where we are today, where we're
willing to physically may make child in the name of
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a transgender ideology. Whether that child knows the consequences to it,
that starts. But he was very good at masking it
in moderated language. He was an enormous even listen, whatever
you want to say about Black Obama, the dude can
give great speeches. He was an enormous or raider. He
was one of the great operators of the presidency, and
he could sell something as not as radical as it
might have been. But there are moments in his presidency
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where he tipped his hand. Remember the famous dismissing moment
where he says, all those people are just God's guns
and Bible people. He knew he looked down on those people,
the populace, the working class, those who believe that America
should be put first. And when Donald Trump comes along,
his ability to keep that course of the country is
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in great danger, much more than if a Marco Ruby
or Ted Cruz or Ben Carson had been elected. And
so they go from having to hang a Russian shingle
on a Republican's house just to neutralize a political liability
to we got to destroy this guy because he could
turn the world upside down. Our master plan could be
set back. And I think that's when we're done with history,
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when we're done with the actual facts, not the ones
we've been force fed. I think that's what we might
find behind that dirty curtain.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So what are we going to find about law fair
and attempt at assassinations?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Because are those going to connect back.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think the American public has looked now we've stepped
back from this election, and we've said there was a
dirty plan to destroy his first term, and they took
a lot of that away.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
From him.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I mean, they effectively took a lot of his first
term away. So he has this four years and he
is overwhelmingly popular. Even though they think they have him,
they think they've destroyed him. That the I mean, it
was kind of crazy when you watched the Republican primary.
No matter what, he's not going to debates, He's not
out there with those people.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
He is just.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Blowing them away regardless. He is so popular, and they
start to really panic and you can see it, and
they start these lawsuits and they raid Mara a Lago.
They can't be held accountable for that.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, to be determined, right, Cash Mattel has opened up
what we call the Grand Conspiracy case. He opened it
up in April. His FBI team did. It's actually not
him personally. He lets the agents follow the evidence and
they treat this as a wash, rinse, and repeat cycle,
much like you would treat the mob in your extortion cases.
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It's prohibition liquor, then it's illegal gambling and taking over Vegas,
and you can treat the mob and then you can
go back and charge things that are way outside the
statute of limitations. So Donald Claring Hillary Clinton when there
was evidence still to potentially indeter is one act in
an overt conspiracy. Hanging the Russia shingle on Donald Trump
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becomes another Ukraine raiding his home. You can tie Jack
Smith all the way back to Hillary Clinton and James
Comby the summer sixteen. That's called a grand conspiracy case.
We used it against the mob, we used it against
the drug cartels. Will Pambondi go the route that the
FBI has predicated a case on it, We don't know yet.
But her first action, the first thing she's actually done
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to address this last few weeks, is she named a
strike force. A strike force is like an all star team.
Think of it as a nineteen eighty four Olympic All
Star team of a basketball player as well. These are
your best prosecutors the FBI. You put them together and
you say, see, if this is a conspiracy, That's what
they did to take the mob down. That's what they
did to take the early Columbian drug cartels down. The
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fact that she chose that tool seems to hint that
maybe she's going in that direction. And then it will
come down to what's the evidence. Where are you going
to bring the charges? Do you bring them in Florida
with Jack Smith's right, or do you bring him in Washington, DC,
where John Durham lost two cases that a lot of
people thought were slam dunks. Those are big questions. The
decisions DJ makes will determine whether we get any accountability
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or just another depressing round of disclosures and no accountability.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Who do you think should be held accountable?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I mean, you've talked about Brennan, Joe Biden is apparently
irresponsible for the unmasking of I think it was Michael Flynn.
Then he was responsible for the unmasking of Michael Flynn,
and then you've got Obama and Reason there too.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So who's who gets held accountable?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I don't know yet. I mean, I don't think after
all the work I've done, I have all the evidence.
I'm not trying to welch on the issue. Listen, I
know for certain my reporting has proven that there is
a political conspiracy of epic proportions. Whether it rises to
a criminal level that a grand jury would hand up
an indictment and then a jury would convict, We're a
long ways from knowing that, and I suspect, even after
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the two three, four hundred stories I've written on this,
we don't know all the other Listen. I still am
getting foyas right now that show emphatically that people who
testified in the twenty nineteen Ukraine impeachment lide they were
just not telling the truth. I still get foyas every
day that show things that went on in the early
Trump years that now we know to be mirages. It
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took us fifty or sixty years to get some truth
on Kennedy's assassination. It took us many many decades to
know the truth about al Capone. I don't know how
long it is before we have the full body evidence.
So because say that's the quarterback, that was the Godfather,
that's the Capeoard, that's a lieutenant, these people should be prosecuted.
And by the way, that's the brilliance of what the
left did. They made this so complicated it would take
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a decade or more to unravel.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm not sure people understand when you say it's even
for you to get your reputation back, to get the
Wikipedia page back, what that actually means. And I think
it's important that the American people understand when you see
someone I mean, I was listening to you on Fox News,
like three times a week going through all of this stuff,
and then you know, suddenly I'm seeing less and less
(21:34):
of John Solomon. But when you are an investigative reporter,
your integrity, and this is something my father always talked about,
was like, don't question my integrity ever, because once you
have somebody questioning your integrity, you lose all of your
credibility when you go places. So tell us a little
bit about what they took from you, so people can
(21:55):
understand when you say this is a big deal, and
you are one who didn't end up going through a trial.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, listen. I don't consider myself a victim, but I
do realize that there was a significant operation run against me.
I had succeeded in unraveling the Russia collusion as a reporter,
and done so enough so that even prosecutors and the
Inspector General affirmed my reporting, even the Washington Post. I
to acknowledge that at some point, and then I started
to pivot because at the end of my reporting on
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Russia collusion, my sources told me at the same time
they were falsely of pursuing President Trump on Russia collusion,
they were turning a blind eye to Hunter Biden that
I get that information. In December twenty eighteen, as I'm
wrapping up my first round of Russia collusion reporting, and
I write the first epic stories about Hunter Biden that
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President Vice President Biden threatened to hold withhold a billion
dollars of aid if the Ukrainian government didn't fire the
prosecutor who happened to have an investigation against his son,
Hunter Biden and Burisma. It is March of Time, twenty
nineteen when that happens. A funny thing happens for the
first two months after I break that story, because the
story is factually impeccable. New York Times, ABC News and
(23:11):
others confirmed the story, and then an operation is run
to make it look like I was in bed with
Russian conspiracy theorists and Rudy Giuliani. I was conflicted from
treating Rudy Giuliani as a source. I couldn't use him
as a source. I tried to tell every reporter I offered,
every reporter. I filed a conflict of interest notice because
The Hill had asked me to work with Rudy on
(23:33):
a podcast. Because I had a business relationship in my
corporate role, I could not use him as a source.
I literally filed a document that said, from this point forward,
I can't use Rudy Giuliani as a source until we
decide whether we're in business with him. Everybody in the
Hill knew I wasn't using Rudy Giuliani. Everybody in the
Hill knew my sources were the FBI. But in the public,
not a single reporter who wrote a story saying I
(23:56):
had become a conspiracy theorist would look at that evident
and they wouldn't look at it. And you know, I'm
named in an intelligence community whistlebower complaint that I was
talking to Russia. Nope, I was talking to the FBI. And
at some point in the summer of twenty twenty two,
my lawyer cooperates with the Justice Department. The Justice Department thinks,
oh my god, this shows how bad the Justice Department is,
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the Biden Justice Department. They think I'm coming in and
I'm going to drop the dime on Rudy Giuliani because
they haven't been able to prove thank god. And I'm like, Okay,
here's the deal. I'm going to give my documents. And
my sources declared me to give my documents but you
got to put me before the grand jury. That's all
I want. I want my chance to talk to the
grand jury because my name has been smeared. So I
walk in and they apparently you know, my lawyer walks in,
(24:39):
drops these doctums, like wait a second, we were John source,
Like yeah, you the Justice Department of the FBI, you
were my source. Look at my documents, look at my notes.
And then like two days later, Rudy gets his devices back.
I never got to go before the grand jury, but
once they looked at the evidence, I had to like,
oh my god, he got this legitimately, and no, it's
all true. Now what's happened since then? The very thing
that I report that Joe Biden personally tried to and
(25:02):
his team was that Hunter Biden didn't pay taxes on
his Briessman money in Ukraine. What did we learn? Oh,
when the FBI irs whistleblowers whose story I broke as well,
come forward, what did we learn he didn't pay his
taxes on the Briefema money he was making in Ukraine.
It wasn't a conspiracy theory. I had the documents all along.
But my Wikipedia page says I'm a disgraced journalist. I
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don't get invites to most mainstream journalism events anymore. I
looked down upon even though I was accurate. Now I'm
a small victim. I didn't go have to plead guilty
to a crime like Michael Flynn. I didn't spend millions
of dollars in legal bills like many other people did.
So I don't want to cry victim one second. But
if that can happen to a guy who wrote legitimately
accurate stories, look what happened to people who couldn't defend
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themselves from the great power of the government. That's what
those guys in the driveway were warning about.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. You think that these are victimless crimes,
but even if you say why, I wasn't a bit
a huge victim known, But this is your livelihood, this
is what you do for a living, and discrediting you
is as significant. They knew they had power in doing that.
(26:13):
And then you watch that interview. I'll just say this
really quickly. You watch that interview with Hunter Biden, and
I don't know if you watched the entire three hour interview.
It scared me because he talks like a politician. Well,
if I were to run for office in three to
four years, I would go to Al Salvador and empty
the prisons and have those people flown back here. He's
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telling you what he believes, and I believe that's what
the Democrat Party believes.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We will just restart this. We've just got a few
years off. We'll just restart it all.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He talks about transgenderism, he talks about making sure these
criminal illegals are here on the streets. To me, that's scary.
And he wasn't held accountable for anything that he's done,
and he could run for office.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, that's right, he's been pardoned. Yeah, listen, I think
your description of what's going on is right on. I
listened to your podcast often and I love it because
I think you're giving common sense Americans in the Middle
of America the truth. And the great thing is Middle
America knows that they were sold an incredible bill of
Bogi's goods.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
They know they did.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, and they're not going to date that same person again.
They're not right, true, but they'll paint up someone else
to be the next Joe Biden. Hunter Biden, and the
illusion of falling for that person is high, particularly if
the intelligence and law enforcement apparatus of this government can
still put their finger on the scale, which right now
they could.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And just as you're talking about why Hillary Clinton was
afraid that would come back to haunt her at the
Russia collusion and she ended up flipping that script, I mean,
I look at just Gretchen Whitmer, what she's done here
with taking the twenty million dollar grant and giving it
to a friend and taking tax pay dollars and probably
getting kickbacks on that. I mean, those are the types
that they is that when you see politicians doing that,
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that person is dirty and you should get away from them.
And that's why we so enjoy what you do at
Just the News. John Solomon, thank you so much for
coming on.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Great to be with you, Tutor.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Thanks yeah, absolutely, and thank you all for joining us
on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Make sure you check it
out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts, and you can watch it on Rumble
or YouTube at Tutor Dixon Join us next time and
have a blessed day.
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