August 10, 2025 • 24 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
One of our podcast listeners has got an issue that
he wants to raise with you. As we finished the
Thursday edition of the program, this is Steve, who wants
to talk with you about your big flamingo discussion yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, let's hear it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Buck, check your history on the flamingos. I'm seventy years
old and as a kid before long before Miami Vice
came out, I grew up thinking flamingos were from Florida.
Chat GPT says that they were native, but then when
(00:53):
it almost extinct, So check it out.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
All right, all right, buddy, all right, I don't know
the answer. I'm stepping out of this, Phray. This seems
pretty intense for me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Go you know, when you make you know, the zoological
specificity necessary on this on this show is quite a thing.
All right. Let me let me just say this. This
is what the truth is. As I understand, there were
flamingos here. They went extinct though for about two hundred years. Okay,
(01:23):
so they were gone in the eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundreds,
and then they wouldn't weren't able to find any And
then the twentieth century they started to try to reintroduce
some native colonies. And now in Florida they're about one
hundred of them, but that they are doing better than
the dodo bird here, but not much better like they
weren't around. And like I said, the it was the
(01:44):
it was a flock of imported African pink flamingos in
Miami Vice that were not indigenous to Florida that got
everybody thinking about in the eighties of Florida and flamingos. Again,
they didn't have They didn't have flamingos in Florida for
over a hundred years. So and yet every everywhere you
go there's flamingo. This in flamingo that it's kind of weird, right,
(02:07):
like walking around Newfoundland being like, hey, the dodo birds,
not as many dodo birds. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
All over northern Michigan they've got bear in every business,
streets named after bear. I don't think there's any bear
left up here. By the way, Jody Jody says, love
the show they used to have flaminga you got lit
up by flamingo people out there, also saying the same thing.
They were decimated for the feathers used in women's hats
(02:39):
back in the day. That's why they killed all the
flamingos off in Florida. So I don't know, sir, you
better step check yourself before you step into flamingo wars.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, I'm just they were gone though. That's my point
is that there were no flamingos, and everyone's talking about
flamingos all the time. The only flamingos you're gonna see
in Florida are the lawn ornaments out there. I'm just
telling you guys the truth. You can come at me
with whatever you like.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Sundays with Clay and Bus.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I feel pretty good about the difficulty of anybody getting
out of Alligator Alcatraz as a Floridian Are you one
hundred percent behind this idea?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Certainly getting a lot of attention, and you need places
where you can hold people, quickly process them and then
get those deportation proceedings going. You know, you look at
the numbers and I know the Trump administration is moving
rapidly on this stuff. But when you see the flood
that happened under Biden in four years, it's going to
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take some real doing here to begin to really chip
away at the illegal invasion that happened in the country.
But yeah, the thing about you know alligators there, you know,
during the daytime, they'll leave you alone for the most part,
not too bad. It's really at night that you wouldn't
want to be trying to go up to like chest
deep water in the Everglades and hope that you don't
(03:58):
make some new friends you warn't tending on. That would
be tough.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There's also crocodiles and as he mentions, pythons, anacondas. There's
like basically anything can live in the Everglades. And they
do these python searches. I mean they're twenty foot pythons.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Now they do python hunts. Yeah, well, those are an
invasive species brought here as pets. The pythons are pets
that were brought here and released. Iguanas were pets that
were brought here and release. The iguanas are everywhere. You'll
see again all over the place here. A lot of
the smaller lizards as well. They're not indigenous to South Florida.
They were brought here as pets. So that's why when
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you go to places and they say, did you bring
any like animals or livestock products or whatever, because if
you introduce some of these things into the ecosystem. I
think lionfish as well, which you can go and you
can kill as many lionfish as you want down here
in Florida, and you can, I think you can eat them.
They have a spines on them. They're very poisonous. Parrots
are there. I live next to flocks of wild parrots now,
(04:58):
they're all over the place here. Those were brought here
as pets. So a lot of stuff that you think of,
you know what is not native to Florida or you
will not find in Florida. Flamingos. Have I talked to
you about this before people think of there are thousands
of businesses and places. There's a flamingo park here in
Miami Beach. Flamingo is everywhere as a concept in Florida.
(05:20):
Flamingo lawn ornaments, we've all seen them. Clay. The flamingos
that most people think of when they think of Miami
were actually a flock of flamingos brought from Africa at
the racetrack in the intro of Miami Vice. And everyone
thought from that show, because there's flamingos at the racetrack,
there must be flamingos in Florida. There are very rare,
(05:45):
like a handful of occasions where they think that maybe
during severe weather or flamingos have basically been like blown here.
But there are not indigenous flamingos and any numbers in Florida,
which I think even shocks some Floridians when they find out.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The most successful, most liked invasive species in American history
bees they did.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's crazy. People don't realize it.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
There were no.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Bees, no honey bees in the United States or in
the Americas until they were brought over from Europe. By
the way, another crazy one tomatoes not native to Italy.
We all think about tomatoes like because so much of
their cuisine involves tomatoes not native.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So they say now that they think there are up
to one hundred flamingos in the state of Florida that
may have been blown here during Hurricane Idalia, but there
was There's been a long period where there were no
wild flamingos here. So now there's like a very small
colony of them. But you know, I always I'm down here.
(06:52):
You see pelicans all over the place. Yeah they're not
as famous, but flamingos are the things you think of
as Florida. They're not really here, but yes, that's It's
like the state bird for a state that barely has
any of these birds.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yesterday I was making fun of Buck forgetting everything wrong
with flamingos, and I stepped in my own animal related disaster.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Old on. I didn't get everything wrong. I was actually
right on them. It was like you, with the direction
of the trajectory of the blackmail vote, you got it
mostly right, you know, you just you missed it by
a few percentage points, and now you probably owe me
a steak with flamingos, was I was directionally correct about
their inhabitant or their status in Florida. You get what
(07:38):
I'm saying, So you know, mostly directionally correct.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I stepped in it first of all, before I correct
my error Northern Michigan, I tweeted this and it has
gone megaviral, and I apologize to everybody in Northern Michigan,
the most underrated in the summer. Northern Michigan most underrated
place in the continental United States. Nobody knows how fabulous
as it is until now, who has never been there.
(08:03):
I would have never gone, be honest with y'all. I
never would have gone if I hadn't started dating Laura.
I had no idea that northern Michigan was nice in
any way. I don't think I ever would have gone
if I hadn't been dating a girl who was from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But it is spectacular.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Having said that, I misspoke yesterday when I was trying
to talk about Buck and flamingos and my wife.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You know, I never.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Really liked to cast blame or throw anybody else under
the bus, But this is one hundred percent my wife's fault.
She told me there were no more bears in northern Michigan.
I'm driving around.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I know people who hunt bears in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I thought it sounded wrong, But because I've been married
for over twenty years, my wife said it so authoritatively,
I thought she had to be right. So I brought
it up yesterday when Buck was talking about flamingos and
in the studio immediately everybody's like, no, no, no, you're wrong,
but we were going to break and now everybody has
(09:02):
been teeing off on me. I tried to be nice
to everybody in northern Michigan and in typical Michigan nice
guy in gal fashion. I've been deluged with people telling me, hey, moron,
there's tons of bears up here. I now know this,
but again, don't want to cast blame, but it was
all my wife's fault. Here is AA John from Michigan.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Hi, clan buck love the show. This is John Q
from Michigan. Hey, there's a lot of bears in Lower
Michigan Upper Peninsula as well. But the dnire says over
two thousand with sightings in Traverse City, Midland and Bay City,
even the lower parts. So yeah, it's not like flamingos.
(09:45):
There's lots of black bears.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Love you guys, thousands of black bears. Again, don't want
to cast blame, but it was all my wife's fault.
So I apologize for getting that wrong. She does because
she was wrong, not.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Me boldly throwing Laura under the bus.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
She is.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You're not a blame guy, not a blame guy.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But it was all our's fault.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Uh, yeah, there are there are a lot of bears.
You know, there was a bear in uh in Florida.
There's actually a bear attack in Florida not long ago.
It was a fatal bear attack that happened down here,
which is incredibly rare. Usually you think of alligator attacks.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
We at the beach, we have to put our garbage
away because there's bears at the beach. That doesn't even
seem fair.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Bears on the.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Beach Sunday sizzle with clay and fuck.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's really disappointing that my wife, who is from Michigan,
would lead me astray like that. Again, don't want to
make don't like to cast blame. But Laars Travis, born
and raised Michigander told me there were no bears. She
actually ridly. She was actually talking about every business it
felt like in Michigan has a bear in the logo.
(10:52):
In northern Michigan, you could be a roof repair placed.
It's like a bear on your logo, doesn't matter. You
could be selling skis, or you could be selling snorkels
and kayaks for the Great Clear Waters. Bears everywhere. My
wife was like, there used to be bears but now
they're all gone. And literally the guy that I've never
(11:13):
been proven more wrong, more rapidly.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
In the studio.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
They did a great job up in Traverse City helping
me fabulous people. I finished that segment talking where you
led me astray talking about flamingos, and I was like, well,
it's just like the bears up here. And he turns
to me and he has on his phone. As we
finished the show, He's like, actually, we have lots of
bears here. In fact, here is a bear in my
(11:38):
backyard yesterday photo. And I was like, well, this is
not good. So I got that one hundred percent wrong.
I hope I don't get attacked by a bear.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
A bears. Yeah, look buck back when I was a kid. Oh,
mister Tennessee Like he's like Davy Krockett himself over here.
Look at this clay from Nashville.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, no, look back in the day. I don't think
they do this anymore. But they used to put bear
in concrete pins in like Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, and you
could feed them. I don't think they do this anymore.
But as a kid, Pigeon Forge is basically and I
say this affectionately because I'm from Tennessee, the most redneck
(12:22):
place in America, and I have a lot of redneck tendency,
so I'm not judging it. But it is the only
place in America where they still advertise that motels have
HBO and jacuzzie tubs. It is perpetually like nineteen seventy
eight or nineteen eighty four there. And when I was
a kid, we would take vacations to Pigeon Forge and
(12:44):
or Pigeon Forge like leads into Gatlinburg. A lot of
you have been to the Smoky Mountains and buck they
had you would have you would have as a New
Yorker coming down, you'd have been like, I can't believe
this place is real. They had got kart putt putt
and bears in concrete ends and you could pay like
two dollars and you could feed the bears.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well that's not a wild to be clear that, but but.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They had out they had them all out in the
distance in Cade's Cove. That was like the place where
you could see the real bear, but up close you
could basically touch a bear. You could like just give
a bear food and I probably not safe, probably not
good for the bear. But they were everywhere and uh,
and so this was I was obsessed with bears as
(13:29):
a kid, because I mean, why wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
They're pretty much like big dogs. Really, you know, at
least tell it to me.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, you just told me somebody got killed by a
bear in Florida and.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Kill people too, that's true. Yeah, But I saw grizzlies
when I was in Alaska, and from far away they
look they look almost like a person in a grizzly suit.
They kind of lope around and they're all and uh,
and then they get close and you go, that thing
is like very large and much bigger and stronger and
scarier than me, and I should probably give it more distance.
(13:59):
So bear very we're talking about black bears. This is
third hour conversation, folks. I know we're supposed to the
news of the day here, but Clay Clay stepped into
a bear trap, if you will, and now he's fighting
his way out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I just want to make sure that we don't get
anybody killed. These are black bears, grizzly bears, tremendously dangerous.
We have a lot of people listening to us in
grizzly country. Not lovable, not like big dogs. This is
not a You don't want to be anywhere near a
grizzly bear. So we're talking about black bears. No racism funded.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know, there really are podcasts where they have full
grown managers sit there like which animal would win in
a fight him? By the way, it's very rarely a
hard You know, people think gorillas are way more fierce
than they are. That's a whole other conversation. We got
into that whole thing about one hundred people fighting a
gorilla with silliness. But you know that there's only one
in North America, one animal that that consistently views, consistently
(14:55):
views not a mistaken identity, and human beings as food.
What is it, clay.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
One consistently eats humans intentionally. Yes, lions, you mean mountain
lions in the United States. I mean like lions.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I said North America. Oh I missed the North America part. Yeah,
North American land animal. There's only one that will view
a that will view people as food, not eat if
it's sick, not you know, opportunistic, but will be Oh
there's a person, I'm gonna eat that person. Grizzly bear
would be the answer. Polar bears polar bears. Yeah, they're
(15:36):
they're larger and more aggressive, and they only remember. Grizzly
bears eat a whole range of things, so they'll eat.
Polar Bears just eat seals. They're just carnivores. They really
don't get into much of anything else. So it is
the polar bear that if they see you, they will
track you, they will hunt you, and they will eat you.
So stay. When you say lion, you mean like a puma,
(15:57):
like a mountain lion, right, because we don't have Africa lions.
I mean, yes, I'm siying for like one hundred and
sixty pounds or something. You know, you get probably if
you let him get you from the backs. Guys, I'm sorry,
this is what this show has got off the rails. Now,
I'll get us back in the news of a second.
But if the mountain lion gets you from the back
with its teeth, you know, in the neck, if it
gets you, then you're in deep trouble. But if you
square off against it, you know, I think I give
(16:18):
it a swift Teabe.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You've got a good right leg. You're a young dad.
I'm thinking about trying to save children. You got like
a four or five year old out there mountain lion.
That is dangerous. You know this is I spend a
lot of time when your dad. You spend a lot
of time preparing for combat with animals. I was throwing
my wife under the bus earlier for being wrong about bears.
(16:40):
But if you asked her, I expect that I'm going
to have to fight an alligator at some point in time.
I wish I had had to do it younger. I
haven't had to do it yet. Yes, this is like
i'ms you have.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Well, I'm always around bodies of water, and I'm always
prepared for an alligator to try to attack a child.
I'm always i'm heads on a swivel, like I'm gonna be.
I'm going down to the beach tomorrow. There are the
barrier lakes that might be alligators there. I'm just saying,
if your child is, if you're drinking beer and you're
not paying attention, I'm gonna save your kid. I'm ready
(17:15):
if I'm there when an alligator attacks. I've been preparing
for this my whole life. I know what to do,
I know my strategy, and you know, preparation is a
huge part of the battle, and not to go full
g I Joe on you, but I am prepared to
go after an alligator, not a crocodile, but an alligator,
which is in northern Florida what I'm gonna come across
(17:36):
most frequently.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So, who wants to talk about Jerome Palell getting fired
here at the end of this at the end of
his tench.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Jerome Powell, I don't think would be very good if
an alligator tried to come after your kid. Not good
on interest rates. Also doesn't seem like a guy who's
ready to take on an alligator either, just laid on everything.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I could see Trump throwing an alligator in kind of
the side you know, the side headlock at Trump is
a one thing I will tell you about him. For
those of you who haven't met him in person, I
know some of you have. He is a when you're
he is a surprisingly large and sturdy figure. He is
not a you know. He is bigger in every sense
like when you're near, like his hair is bigger, his shoulders.
(18:14):
He's a big dude. He's at least six two sixty
three and probably about two sixty I would say to Elon.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Musk similarly, is actually a monster. He looks like Elon does,
like an NFL linebacker. I think we tend to think of,
you know, like sort of tech guys as court of
nerdy and wimpy size wise.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Well, this is why he said, straight up, I don't
care how much Mark Zuckerberg trains. I'll just kick his
ass because Zuckerberg takes like.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, I think that's true. Having seen I don't think
there's any way that he would lose that battle.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I think Lauren Carrie jiu jitsu could probably still take
out Zuckerberg, you know, even with his little old Zuckerberg
cool cool. I'm not getting any love on Facebook these
days anyway, So what do I care so for Zuckerberg.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Nobody has any respect for him. He's like trying to
get back into good graces.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know, the people are talking. You know what else
we got by the way, we got the what's his
name Bezos spending dollars on a wedding invent for I'm
gonna tell you something right now, Venice, So one day,
maybe two day, Max place. It's it's amazing for what
it is to see some of the stuff that's there. No,
it has. I've been a couple of times. It has
(19:19):
no parks, no greenery really of any kind. Uh. It
smells when it's warm out because there's a lot of
sewage in that water, so it looks really cool. And
photos and everything else. But you know, and I'll tell
you the food is kind of I'm not a big
Venice guy. Other parts of Italy I love. I'm just
trying to save you all the disappointment. The best thing
you'll see in Venice is the scenes from Indiana Jones
(19:41):
in the Last Crusade. But now which is which is
very well done?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh that's the best of the Indiana Jones movies.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I think that's probably true. Even though I used
to say Raiders a lost arc. I was just trying
to be I just like to be contentious. Sometimes it
takes me like get older. You watch them some hold up,
They hold up pretty well. It's a group. But production
value Last Crusade is is sp.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So you don't agree with Bezos's decision to have one
hundred million dollar wedding in Venice, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
What is he? What is he doing? I know he's
got the money, and people say whatever, But there's a
lot of things you can do with one hundred million
dollars that are far more meaningful than spending it on
on a But then again, I'm a small person. This
is a personal preference thing. My wife and I grew
we're small wedding people. We didn't want to do a
big wedding thing. So I get it. So I'm at
the whole opposite end for me. It's like it's the church, God,
(20:26):
immediate family, that's what a wedding is. I don't need
to have this.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh yeah, The average wedding now costs like forty k right,
that seems crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I think that's what about what that's nationwide. That's if
you're doing a wedding, and you know the outskirts of
Oklahoma City. Average wedding in New York is one hundred
grand average, that's the average cost of some of these places.
That's absolutely absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
But for Bezos, if you got two hundred billion dollars,
I actually think that he's making we threw zuckerber Go
under the bus. I actually think Bezos is starting to
behave more rationally as a reasonable guy compared to the
choices that he was making in Trump one point zero.
(21:12):
And I don't know if Lauren Sanchez, the new wife,
is deserving of this credit. You know, he moved from Miami,
I mean, from Seattle to Miami. I think that might
have given him a little bit of a cultural swing.
Not to take a shot at anybody living in Seattle,
but if you're a rich guy, I would much rather
live in rich single guy. Would you rather live in
Miami or Seattle? I mean, I don't even see that
(21:34):
as remotely a choice. And I think Bezos is from
Miami originally, and look, the Washington Post is still a mess,
but I think he's been more open to free speech,
as have Zuckerberg in the wake of Elon Musk buying Twitter,
which I think is maybe the Blaze trail that they followed.
And so I hope the wedding goes well, but.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I like to guess at some point throw something else
your way. We try to think of of fun trips
to go on and things that are worthwhile for the show.
You know, we just went to DC and we had
Palm Beach before that. I was just in France for iHeart,
and you know, we have to sometimes have excellent adventures
here on this show. I don't know if you saw this,
(22:19):
but North Korea just opened its first ever water park
with room for twenty thousand visitors, they say, and this
is the eeriest, scariest water park. I think it's in
North Korea. Everybody, Clay, if we were guaranteed that we
would come back alive, would you want to go see
(22:42):
the North Korean water Park?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I would, because I think if I wrote a story
about going to the North Korean water park, it would
probably be an incredible story. And I don't know how
many Americans will ever see it.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I can't believe only open to Russians and Chinese and
obviously wealthy North Koreans right now, that's the only people
that are allowed to go.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Kim Jong Un is a good test case scenario for
what would happen if, like the whole world of Korea
is a North Korea is so crazy that he would
decide he's like the kid who was the fat kid
in Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Do you remember the fat kid in them?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
What's that guy's name? The fat kid playing with the
boats and Peewee Herman that decides he has to have
Pee Wee Herman's bike in the basement of the Alamo Francis,
Thank you. Kim Jong Un is what would happen if
Francis had grown up and ended up in charge of
a country. If you watched Pee Wee Herman, think about it,
(23:47):
the fat kid in the pool that is Kim Jong Un,
Francis would have been like, Hey, we're gonna build a
huge water park and we're gonna have nuclear weapons. That
is Kim Jong Un, all grown up, the fat kid,
fat rich kid from the Pee Wee Herman movies, and
it kind of sums them up. You're everybody out there
who's seen those movies, like, yeah, that is exactly what
(24:07):
Francis would have been like
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One of our podcast listeners has got an issue that
he wants to raise with you. As we finished the
Thursday edition of the program, this is Steve, who wants
to talk with you about your big flamingo discussion yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, let's hear it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Buck, check your history on the flamingos. I'm seventy years
old and as a kid before long before Miami Vice
came out, I grew up thinking flamingos were from Florida.
Chat GPT says that they were native, but then when
(00:53):
it almost extinct, So check it out.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
All right, all right, buddy, all right, I don't know
the answer. I'm stepping out of this, Phray. This seems
pretty intense for me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Go you know, when you make you know, the zoological
specificity necessary on this on this show is quite a thing.
All right. Let me let me just say this. This
is what the truth is. As I understand, there were
flamingos here. They went extinct though for about two hundred years. Okay,
(01:23):
so they were gone in the eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundreds,
and then they wouldn't weren't able to find any And
then the twentieth century they started to try to reintroduce
some native colonies. And now in Florida they're about one
hundred of them, but that they are doing better than
the dodo bird here, but not much better like they
weren't around. And like I said, the it was the
(01:44):
it was a flock of imported African pink flamingos in
Miami Vice that were not indigenous to Florida that got
everybody thinking about in the eighties of Florida and flamingos. Again,
they didn't have They didn't have flamingos in Florida for
over a hundred years. So and yet every everywhere you
go there's flamingo. This in flamingo that it's kind of weird, right,
(02:07):
like walking around Newfoundland being like, hey, the dodo birds,
not as many dodo birds. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
All over northern Michigan they've got bear in every business,
streets named after bear. I don't think there's any bear
left up here. By the way, Jody Jody says, love
the show they used to have flaminga you got lit
up by flamingo people out there, also saying the same thing.
They were decimated for the feathers used in women's hats
(02:39):
back in the day. That's why they killed all the
flamingos off in Florida. So I don't know, sir, you
better step check yourself before you step into flamingo wars.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, I'm just they were gone though. That's my point
is that there were no flamingos, and everyone's talking about
flamingos all the time. The only flamingos you're gonna see
in Florida are the lawn ornaments out there. I'm just
telling you guys the truth. You can come at me
with whatever you like.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Sundays with Clay and Bus.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I feel pretty good about the difficulty of anybody getting
out of Alligator Alcatraz as a Floridian Are you one
hundred percent behind this idea?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Certainly getting a lot of attention, and you need places
where you can hold people, quickly process them and then
get those deportation proceedings going. You know, you look at
the numbers and I know the Trump administration is moving
rapidly on this stuff. But when you see the flood
that happened under Biden in four years, it's going to
(03:35):
take some real doing here to begin to really chip
away at the illegal invasion that happened in the country.
But yeah, the thing about you know alligators there, you know,
during the daytime, they'll leave you alone for the most part,
not too bad. It's really at night that you wouldn't
want to be trying to go up to like chest
deep water in the Everglades and hope that you don't
(03:58):
make some new friends you warn't tending on. That would
be tough.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There's also crocodiles and as he mentions, pythons, anacondas. There's
like basically anything can live in the Everglades. And they
do these python searches. I mean they're twenty foot pythons.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Now they do python hunts. Yeah, well, those are an
invasive species brought here as pets. The pythons are pets
that were brought here and released. Iguanas were pets that
were brought here and release. The iguanas are everywhere. You'll
see again all over the place here. A lot of
the smaller lizards as well. They're not indigenous to South Florida.
They were brought here as pets. So that's why when
(04:35):
you go to places and they say, did you bring
any like animals or livestock products or whatever, because if
you introduce some of these things into the ecosystem. I
think lionfish as well, which you can go and you
can kill as many lionfish as you want down here
in Florida, and you can, I think you can eat them.
They have a spines on them. They're very poisonous. Parrots
are there. I live next to flocks of wild parrots now,
(04:58):
they're all over the place here. Those were brought here
as pets. So a lot of stuff that you think of,
you know what is not native to Florida or you
will not find in Florida. Flamingos. Have I talked to
you about this before people think of there are thousands
of businesses and places. There's a flamingo park here in
Miami Beach. Flamingo is everywhere as a concept in Florida.
(05:20):
Flamingo lawn ornaments, we've all seen them. Clay. The flamingos
that most people think of when they think of Miami
were actually a flock of flamingos brought from Africa at
the racetrack in the intro of Miami Vice. And everyone
thought from that show, because there's flamingos at the racetrack,
there must be flamingos in Florida. There are very rare,
(05:45):
like a handful of occasions where they think that maybe
during severe weather or flamingos have basically been like blown here.
But there are not indigenous flamingos and any numbers in Florida,
which I think even shocks some Floridians when they find out.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The most successful, most liked invasive species in American history
bees they did.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's crazy. People don't realize it.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
There were no.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Bees, no honey bees in the United States or in
the Americas until they were brought over from Europe. By
the way, another crazy one tomatoes not native to Italy.
We all think about tomatoes like because so much of
their cuisine involves tomatoes not native.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So they say now that they think there are up
to one hundred flamingos in the state of Florida that
may have been blown here during Hurricane Idalia, but there
was There's been a long period where there were no
wild flamingos here. So now there's like a very small
colony of them. But you know, I always I'm down here.
(06:52):
You see pelicans all over the place. Yeah they're not
as famous, but flamingos are the things you think of
as Florida. They're not really here, but yes, that's It's
like the state bird for a state that barely has
any of these birds.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yesterday I was making fun of Buck forgetting everything wrong
with flamingos, and I stepped in my own animal related disaster.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Old on. I didn't get everything wrong. I was actually
right on them. It was like you, with the direction
of the trajectory of the blackmail vote, you got it
mostly right, you know, you just you missed it by
a few percentage points, and now you probably owe me
a steak with flamingos, was I was directionally correct about
their inhabitant or their status in Florida. You get what
(07:38):
I'm saying, So you know, mostly directionally correct.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I stepped in it first of all, before I correct
my error Northern Michigan, I tweeted this and it has
gone megaviral, and I apologize to everybody in Northern Michigan,
the most underrated in the summer. Northern Michigan most underrated
place in the continental United States. Nobody knows how fabulous
as it is until now, who has never been there.
(08:03):
I would have never gone, be honest with y'all. I
never would have gone if I hadn't started dating Laura.
I had no idea that northern Michigan was nice in
any way. I don't think I ever would have gone
if I hadn't been dating a girl who was from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But it is spectacular.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Having said that, I misspoke yesterday when I was trying
to talk about Buck and flamingos and my wife.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You know, I never.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Really liked to cast blame or throw anybody else under
the bus, But this is one hundred percent my wife's fault.
She told me there were no more bears in northern Michigan.
I'm driving around.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I know people who hunt bears in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I thought it sounded wrong, But because I've been married
for over twenty years, my wife said it so authoritatively,
I thought she had to be right. So I brought
it up yesterday when Buck was talking about flamingos and
in the studio immediately everybody's like, no, no, no, you're wrong,
but we were going to break and now everybody has
(09:02):
been teeing off on me. I tried to be nice
to everybody in northern Michigan and in typical Michigan nice
guy in gal fashion. I've been deluged with people telling me, hey, moron,
there's tons of bears up here. I now know this,
but again, don't want to cast blame, but it was
all my wife's fault. Here is AA John from Michigan.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Hi, clan buck love the show. This is John Q
from Michigan. Hey, there's a lot of bears in Lower
Michigan Upper Peninsula as well. But the dnire says over
two thousand with sightings in Traverse City, Midland and Bay City,
even the lower parts. So yeah, it's not like flamingos.
(09:45):
There's lots of black bears.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Love you guys, thousands of black bears. Again, don't want
to cast blame, but it was all my wife's fault.
So I apologize for getting that wrong. She does because
she was wrong, not.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Me boldly throwing Laura under the bus.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
She is.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You're not a blame guy, not a blame guy.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But it was all our's fault.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Uh, yeah, there are there are a lot of bears.
You know, there was a bear in uh in Florida.
There's actually a bear attack in Florida not long ago.
It was a fatal bear attack that happened down here,
which is incredibly rare. Usually you think of alligator attacks.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
We at the beach, we have to put our garbage
away because there's bears at the beach. That doesn't even
seem fair.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Bears on the.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Beach Sunday sizzle with clay and fuck.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's really disappointing that my wife, who is from Michigan,
would lead me astray like that. Again, don't want to
make don't like to cast blame. But Laars Travis, born
and raised Michigander told me there were no bears. She
actually ridly. She was actually talking about every business it
felt like in Michigan has a bear in the logo.
(10:52):
In northern Michigan, you could be a roof repair placed.
It's like a bear on your logo, doesn't matter. You
could be selling skis, or you could be selling snorkels
and kayaks for the Great Clear Waters. Bears everywhere. My
wife was like, there used to be bears but now
they're all gone. And literally the guy that I've never
(11:13):
been proven more wrong, more rapidly.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
In the studio.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
They did a great job up in Traverse City helping
me fabulous people. I finished that segment talking where you
led me astray talking about flamingos, and I was like, well,
it's just like the bears up here. And he turns
to me and he has on his phone. As we
finished the show, He's like, actually, we have lots of
bears here. In fact, here is a bear in my
(11:38):
backyard yesterday photo. And I was like, well, this is
not good. So I got that one hundred percent wrong.
I hope I don't get attacked by a bear.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
A bears. Yeah, look buck back when I was a kid. Oh,
mister Tennessee Like he's like Davy Krockett himself over here.
Look at this clay from Nashville.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, no, look back in the day. I don't think
they do this anymore. But they used to put bear
in concrete pins in like Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, and you
could feed them. I don't think they do this anymore.
But as a kid, Pigeon Forge is basically and I
say this affectionately because I'm from Tennessee, the most redneck
(12:22):
place in America, and I have a lot of redneck tendency,
so I'm not judging it. But it is the only
place in America where they still advertise that motels have
HBO and jacuzzie tubs. It is perpetually like nineteen seventy
eight or nineteen eighty four there. And when I was
a kid, we would take vacations to Pigeon Forge and
(12:44):
or Pigeon Forge like leads into Gatlinburg. A lot of
you have been to the Smoky Mountains and buck they
had you would have you would have as a New
Yorker coming down, you'd have been like, I can't believe
this place is real. They had got kart putt putt
and bears in concrete ends and you could pay like
two dollars and you could feed the bears.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well that's not a wild to be clear that, but but.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They had out they had them all out in the
distance in Cade's Cove. That was like the place where
you could see the real bear, but up close you
could basically touch a bear. You could like just give
a bear food and I probably not safe, probably not
good for the bear. But they were everywhere and uh,
and so this was I was obsessed with bears as
(13:29):
a kid, because I mean, why wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
They're pretty much like big dogs. Really, you know, at
least tell it to me.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, you just told me somebody got killed by a
bear in Florida and.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Kill people too, that's true. Yeah, But I saw grizzlies
when I was in Alaska, and from far away they
look they look almost like a person in a grizzly suit.
They kind of lope around and they're all and uh,
and then they get close and you go, that thing
is like very large and much bigger and stronger and
scarier than me, and I should probably give it more distance.
(13:59):
So bear very we're talking about black bears. This is
third hour conversation, folks. I know we're supposed to the
news of the day here, but Clay Clay stepped into
a bear trap, if you will, and now he's fighting
his way out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I just want to make sure that we don't get
anybody killed. These are black bears, grizzly bears, tremendously dangerous.
We have a lot of people listening to us in
grizzly country. Not lovable, not like big dogs. This is
not a You don't want to be anywhere near a
grizzly bear. So we're talking about black bears. No racism funded.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know, there really are podcasts where they have full
grown managers sit there like which animal would win in
a fight him? By the way, it's very rarely a
hard You know, people think gorillas are way more fierce
than they are. That's a whole other conversation. We got
into that whole thing about one hundred people fighting a
gorilla with silliness. But you know that there's only one
in North America, one animal that that consistently views, consistently
(14:55):
views not a mistaken identity, and human beings as food.
What is it, clay.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
One consistently eats humans intentionally. Yes, lions, you mean mountain
lions in the United States. I mean like lions.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I said North America. Oh I missed the North America part. Yeah,
North American land animal. There's only one that will view
a that will view people as food, not eat if
it's sick, not you know, opportunistic, but will be Oh
there's a person, I'm gonna eat that person. Grizzly bear
would be the answer. Polar bears polar bears. Yeah, they're
(15:36):
they're larger and more aggressive, and they only remember. Grizzly
bears eat a whole range of things, so they'll eat.
Polar Bears just eat seals. They're just carnivores. They really
don't get into much of anything else. So it is
the polar bear that if they see you, they will
track you, they will hunt you, and they will eat you.
So stay. When you say lion, you mean like a puma,
(15:57):
like a mountain lion, right, because we don't have Africa lions.
I mean, yes, I'm siying for like one hundred and
sixty pounds or something. You know, you get probably if
you let him get you from the backs. Guys, I'm sorry,
this is what this show has got off the rails. Now,
I'll get us back in the news of a second.
But if the mountain lion gets you from the back
with its teeth, you know, in the neck, if it
gets you, then you're in deep trouble. But if you
square off against it, you know, I think I give
(16:18):
it a swift Teabe.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You've got a good right leg. You're a young dad.
I'm thinking about trying to save children. You got like
a four or five year old out there mountain lion.
That is dangerous. You know this is I spend a
lot of time when your dad. You spend a lot
of time preparing for combat with animals. I was throwing
my wife under the bus earlier for being wrong about bears.
(16:40):
But if you asked her, I expect that I'm going
to have to fight an alligator at some point in time.
I wish I had had to do it younger. I
haven't had to do it yet. Yes, this is like
i'ms you have.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Well, I'm always around bodies of water, and I'm always
prepared for an alligator to try to attack a child.
I'm always i'm heads on a swivel, like I'm gonna be.
I'm going down to the beach tomorrow. There are the
barrier lakes that might be alligators there. I'm just saying,
if your child is, if you're drinking beer and you're
not paying attention, I'm gonna save your kid. I'm ready
(17:15):
if I'm there when an alligator attacks. I've been preparing
for this my whole life. I know what to do,
I know my strategy, and you know, preparation is a
huge part of the battle, and not to go full
g I Joe on you, but I am prepared to
go after an alligator, not a crocodile, but an alligator,
which is in northern Florida what I'm gonna come across
(17:36):
most frequently.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So, who wants to talk about Jerome Palell getting fired
here at the end of this at the end of
his tench.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Jerome Powell, I don't think would be very good if
an alligator tried to come after your kid. Not good
on interest rates. Also doesn't seem like a guy who's
ready to take on an alligator either, just laid on everything.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I could see Trump throwing an alligator in kind of
the side you know, the side headlock at Trump is
a one thing I will tell you about him. For
those of you who haven't met him in person, I
know some of you have. He is a when you're
he is a surprisingly large and sturdy figure. He is
not a you know. He is bigger in every sense
like when you're near, like his hair is bigger, his shoulders.
(18:14):
He's a big dude. He's at least six two sixty
three and probably about two sixty I would say to Elon.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Musk similarly, is actually a monster. He looks like Elon does,
like an NFL linebacker. I think we tend to think of,
you know, like sort of tech guys as court of
nerdy and wimpy size wise.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Well, this is why he said, straight up, I don't
care how much Mark Zuckerberg trains. I'll just kick his
ass because Zuckerberg takes like.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, I think that's true. Having seen I don't think
there's any way that he would lose that battle.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I think Lauren Carrie jiu jitsu could probably still take
out Zuckerberg, you know, even with his little old Zuckerberg
cool cool. I'm not getting any love on Facebook these
days anyway, So what do I care so for Zuckerberg.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Nobody has any respect for him. He's like trying to
get back into good graces.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know, the people are talking. You know what else
we got by the way, we got the what's his
name Bezos spending dollars on a wedding invent for I'm
gonna tell you something right now, Venice, So one day,
maybe two day, Max place. It's it's amazing for what
it is to see some of the stuff that's there. No,
it has. I've been a couple of times. It has
(19:19):
no parks, no greenery really of any kind. Uh. It
smells when it's warm out because there's a lot of
sewage in that water, so it looks really cool. And
photos and everything else. But you know, and I'll tell
you the food is kind of I'm not a big
Venice guy. Other parts of Italy I love. I'm just
trying to save you all the disappointment. The best thing
you'll see in Venice is the scenes from Indiana Jones
(19:41):
in the Last Crusade. But now which is which is
very well done?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh that's the best of the Indiana Jones movies.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I think that's probably true. Even though I used
to say Raiders a lost arc. I was just trying
to be I just like to be contentious. Sometimes it
takes me like get older. You watch them some hold up,
They hold up pretty well. It's a group. But production
value Last Crusade is is sp.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So you don't agree with Bezos's decision to have one
hundred million dollar wedding in Venice, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
What is he? What is he doing? I know he's
got the money, and people say whatever, But there's a
lot of things you can do with one hundred million
dollars that are far more meaningful than spending it on
on a But then again, I'm a small person. This
is a personal preference thing. My wife and I grew
we're small wedding people. We didn't want to do a
big wedding thing. So I get it. So I'm at
the whole opposite end for me. It's like it's the church, God,
(20:26):
immediate family, that's what a wedding is. I don't need
to have this.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh yeah, The average wedding now costs like forty k right,
that seems crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I think that's what about what that's nationwide. That's if
you're doing a wedding, and you know the outskirts of
Oklahoma City. Average wedding in New York is one hundred
grand average, that's the average cost of some of these places.
That's absolutely absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
But for Bezos, if you got two hundred billion dollars,
I actually think that he's making we threw zuckerber Go
under the bus. I actually think Bezos is starting to
behave more rationally as a reasonable guy compared to the
choices that he was making in Trump one point zero.
(21:12):
And I don't know if Lauren Sanchez, the new wife,
is deserving of this credit. You know, he moved from Miami,
I mean, from Seattle to Miami. I think that might
have given him a little bit of a cultural swing.
Not to take a shot at anybody living in Seattle,
but if you're a rich guy, I would much rather
live in rich single guy. Would you rather live in
Miami or Seattle? I mean, I don't even see that
(21:34):
as remotely a choice. And I think Bezos is from
Miami originally, and look, the Washington Post is still a mess,
but I think he's been more open to free speech,
as have Zuckerberg in the wake of Elon Musk buying Twitter,
which I think is maybe the Blaze trail that they followed.
And so I hope the wedding goes well, but.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I like to guess at some point throw something else
your way. We try to think of of fun trips
to go on and things that are worthwhile for the show.
You know, we just went to DC and we had
Palm Beach before that. I was just in France for iHeart,
and you know, we have to sometimes have excellent adventures
here on this show. I don't know if you saw this,
(22:19):
but North Korea just opened its first ever water park
with room for twenty thousand visitors, they say, and this
is the eeriest, scariest water park. I think it's in
North Korea. Everybody, Clay, if we were guaranteed that we
would come back alive, would you want to go see
(22:42):
the North Korean water Park?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I would, because I think if I wrote a story
about going to the North Korean water park, it would
probably be an incredible story. And I don't know how
many Americans will ever see it.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I can't believe only open to Russians and Chinese and
obviously wealthy North Koreans right now, that's the only people
that are allowed to go.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Kim Jong Un is a good test case scenario for
what would happen if, like the whole world of Korea
is a North Korea is so crazy that he would
decide he's like the kid who was the fat kid
in Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Do you remember the fat kid in them?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
What's that guy's name? The fat kid playing with the
boats and Peewee Herman that decides he has to have
Pee Wee Herman's bike in the basement of the Alamo Francis,
Thank you. Kim Jong Un is what would happen if
Francis had grown up and ended up in charge of
a country. If you watched Pee Wee Herman, think about it,
(23:47):
the fat kid in the pool that is Kim Jong Un,
Francis would have been like, Hey, we're gonna build a
huge water park and we're gonna have nuclear weapons. That
is Kim Jong Un, all grown up, the fat kid,
fat rich kid from the Pee Wee Herman movies, and
it kind of sums them up. You're everybody out there
who's seen those movies, like, yeah, that is exactly what
(24:07):
Francis would have been like
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