August 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic and wide-ranging discussion centered on President Donald Trump’s bold political maneuvers, international diplomacy, and the shifting political landscape in America. The hour opens with commentary on Trump’s temporary federalization of the DC Metro Police, a move prompted by rising violent crime in the nation’s capital. The hosts highlight the contrast between past strict enforcement on minor offenses like fake IDs and the current leniency toward serious crimes such as carjackings. They emphasize Trump’s appointment of Judge Jeanine Pirro as U.S. Attorney for DC, praising her tough-on-crime stance and potential to override local prosecutors in federal cases involving drugs and firearms.
The conversation transitions to Trump’s upcoming meeting with Vladimir Putin, framing it as a pivotal moment in global diplomacy. Trump’s strategy to end the war in Ukraine includes leveraging tariffs on India for purchasing discounted Russian oil, thereby pressuring Putin economically. The hosts analyze the geopolitical implications of this move, suggesting it may have forced Putin to the negotiating table. They also reflect on Trump’s unique ability to command media attention and shape the national narrative, noting a possible softening of the press corps’ stance toward him.
Throughout the hour, the hosts critique the Democratic Party’s reliance on race-based politics, arguing that Trump’s policies are resonating with Black and Latino voters, particularly on issues like crime and deportation. They cite growing disillusionment with movements like Black Lives Matter, which they claim have led to increased violence and failed to deliver meaningful change. The discussion includes data on rising support for Trump among Black men, with one in five reportedly voting for him in 2024—a shift the hosts describe as “transformative.”
Listeners also weigh in with talkbacks, sparking a lighthearted debate about the tallest mountains in the U.S., including Mount Mitchell and Mount Rainier. The hour closes with reflections on the enduring appeal of Bernie Sanders, critiques of Democratic leadership, and a call for broader media engagement across platforms like YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
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go check it out. I remember ten percent of the
prophets because it's all the Towers Foundation. And we've got
some big news that we've been talking about today. We
have Trump announcing the federalization temporary federalization or federalizing of
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the Metro Police, which is DC Police. You know, they're
the ones that for my friends who used fake IDs
to go drink in Georgetown when they were in college,
would arrest them and take their fake IDs. Yeah, that
was they were harsh. They were harsh on fake IDs
back in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And oh they brought in They brought in the paddy
wagon to GW and would arrest people in massive numbers
for fake IDs in d Say think.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
About that, fake IDs. You want to go drink a beer.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Some kid who goes to GW as parents are paying
like seventy grand a year to send them there.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
They'll lock you up.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But you know, carjacking, I don't know, you're seventeen. No
big deal, no, no big whoop. So yeah, great crazy times,
my friends. But Trump is taking action there and hook
he's got Judge Janin as the US attorney. Some interesting
things I'll just point out to everybody. We haven't discussed it.
I want to get to the Russia conversation a little
bit as well for Friday, because there's a big moment
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on the world stage for Trump and his deal making
and international diplomacy and whether you care about Ukraine or not,
we're three hundred billion plus in the hole for paying
for this war. That's real money. And the longer we're involved,
the more expensive it gets, and the greater the possibility
of some kind of you know, mission creep I think becomes.
(02:00):
Trump will try to keep us out of it, but
it's still you know, you don't want wars like this
going on. Okay, it's bad for humanity. A lot of
casual is bad for business. So Trump's trying to end
the whole thing, bring it to a ceasefire, and get
some kind of negotiated set. We'll talk about that in
a second.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
The Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
One thing keep in mind is Judge Janine. Have you
ever done Judge Janine show, Clay you've done her show before.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh yeah, yes, And I've seen her at Fox News
a ton because obviously she was one of the stars
of the five, so she's in the green room all
the time.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, So, I mean I usually do her Saturday. You
had a Saturday show back the day a solo show.
Used to do her show pretty regularly. She's a great lady,
a lot of fun, sharp is you can get I
mean sharp is attack uh, and also fearless. There's a
fierce lady and does not does not appreciate people praying
on the innocent, and is gonna drop the hammer. Now
(02:53):
that she's the US attorney so she's the chief law
enforcement officer in essence, in well, prosecutorial law enforcement is
the attorney general right for the whole country. But she's
the chief prosecutorial arm for the federal government in d C.
She is the prosecutor making a lot of decisions in
the district, things that people don't even really think about
(03:15):
very often. Clay, there's often two different jurisdictions that criminals
run a foul of. They run a foul of state
and federal at the same time, and drugs is one
of them. So anytime there's drug activity, especially if it
involves people with a firearm and a legal firearm, drugs
and firearms, illegal drugs and firearm and the same premises,
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for example, that's a violation of federal law.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Felon in possession of.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
A firearm, that's a violation of federal law. Intend to
distribute violation of federal law. I mean, there's all these
areas where the DC prosecutor could be overridden or I
should say could be pushed aside, where the federal prosecutor,
judge and need steps in. And I think that's where
there's some opportunity here, because if local law enforcement wants
(04:02):
to work with federal law enforcement to take these bad
guys off.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The streets, a huge part of it is.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Will they actually be punished and taken out of circulation.
So they can't pray upon the innocent anymore. With Judge Janine,
I think the answers are resounding. Yes, I agree, and
I just again we read the DC Police Union take
on this. This is another example of Trump being a
(04:28):
masterful controller of the narrative. We have discussed having mourning
press conferences and how brilliant we think they are because
you have all of the media show up, they all
report on exactly what Trump says, and then he controls
the narrative for the day. The narrative for the week
is violent crime. We're attacking it in DC. Democrats now
(04:52):
have lined up and said, oh, crime's not actually that
bad in DC. I think that's a tough putt to
sink for them. And also Trump has now set the
table for Friday with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
This was my favorite.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He gave a lot of detailed analysis of the situation
coming in the discussions with Vladimir Putin. And we've heard
a lot of that before, We've talked about it with
him on this program quite a lot. But I like
this question He said, how will you know what the
outcome of the negotiation is likely to be? I thought
this was the perfect Trump response, play that cut.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, we're gonna have a meeting with Vladimir Putin, and
at the end of that meeting, probably in the first
two minutes, I'll know exactly whether or not a deal
can be.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Waiting, because that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I make deals.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I was a perfect answer to that question.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It is a perfect answer, And I mean, I do
think it's worth pointing out that eight years ago they
told all of us that Trump needed to be twenty
fifth Amendment amendment did then ignored Biden for four years.
And I know we're only two hundred days.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
There, so we know, cansea We know they know what
the twenty fifth Amendment is because they used to do
nightly news cycles on CNN in the first term.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But we need the twenty fifth Amendment for Trump. And
then the Biden administration like, I don't know what the
twenty fifth Amendment is.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They pretended that they didn't notice. When Biden would walk
out with the note cards and it would tell him
exactly who to call in in what order. He would
hold them in his hands. It was impossible. He would
even say, Biden would I don't know who do they
have me asking questions of next? And he would look
down at his list, and Trump on a daily basis
(06:32):
just shows up and answers every question under the sun.
It's hard not to watch. And I know many of
you probably were watching today if you were home, if
you had some flexibility, but the degree of conversational topic
and tone and information that he is processing on a
day to day basis, whether it was what's going on
with Ukraine, how to analyze Zelensky and Putin's perspectives in
(06:55):
the United States responsibility there breaking down all of the
data on DC crime and why it was unacceptable and pivoting,
and also being really funny. I liked this clip too.
I believe we have it where Peter Doocey says hey,
because they had such an overflow media attendance, Peter Doocy said, hey,
(07:16):
maybe we could build a nicer White House press briefing room,
and Trump had a good rejoinder there, listen to this.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You're building the big beautiful ballroom.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Could we build a big, beautiful briefing room.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I don't want you. I don't want you to be
comfortable now.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't want to make I don't want to make
life comfortable now.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
This is also I think you know we had Trump
walking around last week on the roof.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It does feel to me.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Tell me if you think I'm crazy on this buck,
because the answer could be yes. It feels like the
press corps is even warming up a bit to Trump,
and Trump might even be warming up a bit to
the press corps. He feels more comfortable. I mean, you
just heard that laughter erupt. I don't remember there being
a lot of press conferences where laughter happened because the
first term Democrats sent the message, oh you can't laugh
(08:13):
at a joke from Adolph Hitler. That's unacceptable. And at
a minimum, it feels like that level of derision and
discomfort in that relationship is gone. It feels like they
kind of enjoy I mean, after maybe it's after covering
Biden too, that they actually do enjoy just being able
to do a job.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I think some of the fake news has been brought
to heal. That doesn't mean that they've changed. It doesn't
mean that they've seen the error of their ways. Necessarily,
they just realize I can't just keep running up this
hill and getting mowed down.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It's just not worth it, you.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Know, might as well just ask a normal question and
get a real answer instead.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Of what does it feel like to be hitler President Trump?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You know, the the Acosta remember Jim Acosta from sann
His whole thing was getting into arguments with Trump and
then talk about how Trump was a fascist. Like well,
generally in totalitarian societies, if you stand up to the
autocrat and try to humiliate him in public, you don't
become richer and more famous and nothing bad happens to you,
which is what was happening in the first time of Trump.
(09:17):
So that was that was a bit laughable, little bit absurd.
But on the on the funny line that he had
about about Putin and the two minutes, uh and Clay,
you know, we can get into some of this.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's a little bit ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Obviously, the actual sit down is going to be on Friday.
I don't think there's gonna be a deal, and I
think this is gonna start forcing some really difficult questions
to come forward. I think Trump is going to be
I think Trump is giving Putin one last chance here
before you get you know, he's been good cop, bad cop.
(09:52):
He's about to be bad cop with with Putin. I
think that's what we're gonna see.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And I want to point out, and I've not seen
it discussed very much. I think the reason why Putin
is meeting is actually because Trump levied significant tariffs on
India for their purchase of Russian oil and gas. Because,
for those of you out there who have maybe not
been paying a lot of attention to this, much of
(10:16):
our sanctions on Russia relate to Russian oil and gas
and what it has led to. And there I know
a lot of you out there listen who are involved
in the oil and gas industry. So you guys know
this way better than me. So if you want to
call in and explain even better than I'm about to,
what's happened is Russia then has gotten desperate and they
(10:37):
are selling their oil and gas on the black market,
and they are selling it a lot to India and
a lot to China at reduced rates relative to what
the price of oil and gas is on the global market.
And so what Trump did with India was he said, hey,
wait a minute, India, you're not going to continue to
get this discount on Russian oil and gas. I'm going
(10:59):
to put a substantial tariff on you so that you
now are having to pay the consequences for buying effectively
black market oil and gas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Move is what led Putin to go and meet with Trump,
because without the oil and gas money being sold on
the black market to China and to India, then there
isn't an ability for Putin to finance his war. And
so I think this was a more aggressive move, maybe
than Vladimir Putin was expecting. Now the question becomes a
(11:32):
lot of the sanctioning we did on Russia did not work,
because all we did was say, hey, instead of McDonald's,
they took over the McDonald's right, and they rebranded it whatever.
They rebranded it all over Russia. So the Western asset connection.
But I think this oil and gas move think I
think it rocked Putin a little bit, and I think
it got him to meet. Now, to your point, Buck,
(11:55):
the number one question, and this is what Trump, I
think will say when he knows whether the negotiation is
going to.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Happen or not.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Nobody can tell us what Russia actually wants as a
viable means to end this war. Where is that squiggly
line that Vladimir Putin would accept. Trump said, hey, he
thinks that the goal was to take all of Ukraine,
and obviously Ukraine has fought back to keep that from happening.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So what does that settlement look like.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I thought it was interesting Buck when he went into
talking about value of land and he said, hey, much
of Ukraine is now landlocked because a lot of the land,
that including Crimea, that Russia has taken over, has limited
their ability to have access to the sea.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Part of the problem. I mean, I think Trump's sanctions
are the right move. But you're bringing up clay that
it's black market. I mean, the Russians, India and China
are going to buy reduced oil and gas no matter
what we say, and they're going to say they're not
doing it right.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I mean, this is correct.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So that's why the tariff ultimately comes in because he's like,
screw you guys, Okay, you got fifty percent tariffs.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Then in India. Well, but but they're gonna say, why
are we getting this tariff? We're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You know, you get into this game of are they
buying the oil or not? How do you prove it?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But I think Trump, to your point, Trump's just gonna say,
if you haven't convinced me that's not that's not good enough.
So we'll talk a little more about where I think
the or where we think this Russia situation is going
to go. But it's a big moment for uh, it's
a big moment for Trump on the world stage. As
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Speaker 2 (14:44):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
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Speaker 3 (14:51):
Let's get to some of your talkbacks. Here.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
We got several different ones out there, people reacting to
a variety of different topics. Let's start at the top.
Let me go ahead and pull these up. This is
podcast listener Steve from Texas. I talked to Buck. You
can listen to this book about our mountain controversy after
you went to the Highlands. Here is AA podcast listener
(15:14):
Steve Hi.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
This is Steven Texas. I was just listening to the
really interesting thing about the Rocky Mountains and the Great
Smoky Mountains and how tall they were and everything, and
the geologists who called it and made an interesting point
that if we waited around four hundred million years we
could find out. I'd be willing to bet that if
we did wag around four hundred million years, Nancy Pelosi
would still be in Congress when we were debating this.
So thanks love the show, guys.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Thank you, And she would be trading the stock market
very effectively too, yes you know that.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
No telling how much money she'd be worth.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Then.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Podcast listener Jeff in Portland, BB, what do you got hey?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Clon book? This is Jeff in Portland. Those piles of
rocks in the Colorado area they call mountains.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
They're great.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But in Oregon and Washington, California, we've got volcanoes fourteen
twelve fifteen thirteen thousand feet They actually blow up and
do things as opposed to just piles of rock sitting there.
They look great, but we've got real mountains.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Did you know?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Because I actually had my son looking this up. We
were having a discussion about this after everybody went after
me for my mountain knowledge.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
The tallest mountain in.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
The forty eight contiguous states because Alaska spoiler alert, has
actually the tallest mountains in the United States. Do you know,
Buck Sexton, what state has the tallest peak mountain in
the forty eight states?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Is a Washington state? Good guess? Six?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
According to my son who if he's wrong on this
mount Rainier, I think is the sixth tallest mountain in
the United States. California, I am told, has the tallest mountain.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Stunned me. I didn't know that, And uh.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well, I got one for you, mister fancy pants. All right,
that's actually technically part of the Appalachia or Appalachian Range.
What is the tallest mountain.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Of the uh? I believe damn it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Is it the tallest east of the Mississippi? Or is
the tallest in the northeast? The tallest mountain in the northeast?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Clay uh oh? In the northeast, I don't know. I
would bet like maybe New Hampshire. The man of the
mountain is that that's northeast.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's Mount Mount Washington, which the better statistic for Mount
Washington is it's the place that has the highest ever
recorded wind speed in the world, in the world ever.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Mount Washington. True story, it is uh. I look this up.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The two tallest parts east of the Rockies are in
North Carolina. Klingman's Nome, I believe was the third tallest. Again,
this is the kind of nerdy stuff that I got
into Mount Mitchell. Mount Mitchell is the tallest mountain in
the Appalachian Range according to the Google search I just
did in North Carolina.
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of the most important things going on today across this
(18:58):
great land of ours and around the world. As we said,
Trump meeting on Friday with Boutin. He's gonna sit down
with him and try to hammer out some kind of
a deal. He says, they'll be land swaps. I watched
the whole press conference this morning, and it was, like
I said, both very informative and very entertaining. That's one
thing about Trump. This is just a quick aside, one
thing about Trump that when he's no longer president, I
(19:20):
think everybody everybody will miss. Politics is never going to
be as as at that level, as amusing and engaging
as it has been for us in the Trump era.
Like you're just not going to have somebody I think
very unlikely you're going to have anybody who I mean,
Trump is just such a phenomenon when it comes to
just the things he says and the way he says
(19:42):
it and how he presents you know, I remember even
the excuse me, I remember during the Obama years having
to watch press conference so boring, so boring. Remember watching
j Carney, Everybody watching smarmy Jay Carney up there is
what the president thinks. It's like, ugh, it was so boring.
It was like that felt like a job. Watching a
Trump press conference is entertainment. It's not really a job.
(20:04):
It's like I'm getting paid to watch soap opera or something.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I just want.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean to reiterate that enjoy it because I don't know,
not only just in terms of sheer enjoyment.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But also just in terms of trying to fix.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Everything that's wrong at once, which Trump is uniquely focused on.
Most politicians are obsessed with trying to get re elected.
Trump is obviously, I know he's saying, hey, I'd like
to run again. And by the way, I think a
lot of people would like to vote for him again.
His term is going to end in January of twenty nine,
(20:40):
and this is what I've said on the show for
some time, and some of you immediately respond to tell
me I'm crazy, But I think you actually agree with
this take. As soon as the midterms are over, Democrats
are going to pivot from Trump is Hitler to Republicans
are never going to have a politician as good as Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He's one in a million.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They're never going to get the The MAGA base is
not going to follow the new guy. He's a once
in a lifetime president. That watch how quickly that pivot
happens from He's hitler, Democracy is over to you guys
are never gonna have anybody this good. And it's gonna
make your head spin how quickly it happens. But as
soon as the midterms are over, Boom were on.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
To the next race. You know I was.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I told everybody that I was in. I was in
Highlands North Carolina, not to be confused with the Highlands
of Scotland. Highland North Carolina. Highlands North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know what's funny though, was we flew into Ashville.
You know what, I was unable to attend, Unfortunately, Clay.
There was a big Bernie Sanders rally in Ashville. Now,
I can't throw it too much shade at Ashville because
despite the fact that it is a place of a
lot of leftism, it's very beautiful area, but a lot
of leftism. A lot of people walking around as well,
(21:55):
with purple hair nose rings and a tremendous amount of
cipher bowl tattoos. I'm just saying, this is what I observed.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Men do. They have good brunch food and coffee shops.
I gotta say, I.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Don't know what it is, something about anarchists who look
like they haven't talked to their parents in a very
long time and have a lot of piercings and whatever.
The gauge I think it's called the gauge when you
have the big round thing in your eat. Right, man,
they make a good latte. I don't know what to say.
You know, I'm a coffee guys. We all know they
make a good latte. But Bernie did a rally there
(22:29):
and I just think it's this is the guy. He
is still the guy for Democrats. The biggest draw on
the stump is Bernie Sanders. Here he is on the
you want to here he is on the Jerryman And
this is fourteen. This is Bernie Sanders lay weighing in
laying into it, play it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You think democratic governors should try to push back. I
think the same thing.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
I think they have no choice. I mean what Trump
is trying it reunderstands that there is a good chance
that Republicans will lose control the House. I would hope
the Senate as well. That'll be a tough fight. So
we're trying to make, you know, in his authoritarian way,
say hey, I don't want to lose elections. Let's rig
the system. Give me five more votes in Texas to
(23:11):
me maybe some other stakes. So what should Democrats do
sit back and say, oh, gee, Trump is doing as terrible,
we can't do anything. Let them win the election when
they shouldn't. So Democrats have got a fight back. I
think it's pathetic, but I think that's what they've got
to do.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
What is pathetic, First of all, it's the Texas state
legislature that's going to do the redistrict, not Trump.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's just funny.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Trump is behind every scary thing Trump is hiding under
Democrats beds now, every bad thing that they don't like,
Trump is behind.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And also let me give credit, and this is probably
going to shock people. It doesn't surprise me that Bernie
has an audience because I think he's wrong about everything,
but he has a coherent worldview.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
What is the world like, what.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You understand for better or worse? Bernie is a socialist
and he thinks that things are broken in America. And
I go back to a lot of you will remember
this in the twenty fifteen early twenty sixteen New Hampshire primary,
for instance. I guarantee you listening to us right now,
are some died in the world Trump people who when
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they were going to vote, they were going to vote
trying to decide between Bernie and Trump in twenty sixteen
because they were the most disruptive candidates out there, both
the Republican side and the Democrat side. And for people
out there who feel like things are broken, what Bernie offers,
I think it makes things worse, but it is a
(24:39):
coherent worldview. What does the Democrat Party stand for outside
of socialism and outside of Bernie? And I would argue
that somewhat this is what is appealing to individuals about
Mom Donnie. What does the chem Jefferies represent, What does
Chuck Schumer represent? I don't really think they have a
coherent philosophic, philosophical worldview that responds to people.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think the central ethos of the Democrat Party up
up to this moment and stretching back now for really
a couple of decades, has been race politics. For race communism.
I really believe this that that's the There's other things,
you know, there's gender communism or whatever you want to
call it to you. There's these other things as well
where they take this collectivist and and you know, anti traditionalist,
(25:29):
anti god, anti morality point of view. There's a lot
of things you could but I think that if you're
looking for the one thing that you've had to be
willing to go along with more than any other for
twenty years in the Democrat Party, it is. It is
race communism. It is the race politics, politics, identity policy,
it's all that you know. I prefer race communism because
(25:50):
I want to be very clear that I think it
should be completely disparaged and dismissed. And what's so critical
of what Trump. We're so important about what Trump is
doing is he's going right at that. The Supreme Court
has too, I might add, which gets ignored by a
lot of people. All this race communism stuff is illegal
that these places are still doing. They're not actually supposed
(26:10):
to do this. If the Constitution matters, then Supreme Court
matters to Democrats. And what we see across the board
is these universities playing games, people still playing games with
hiring HR departments, still trying to get away with this stuff.
But that has been the central unifying characteristic of the
Democrat Party for twenty for you know, twenty years is
(26:31):
kind of just a rough estimate of it, because more
so than class it used to be class warfare. Early
two thousands, I think it was more class warfare stuff,
that's right, and now especially going into two thousand and
eight era with the Wall Street meltdown, But now it
really has turned into race politics and Trump is breaking that.
And that's why I think the Democrats are in such disarray,
(26:52):
because the race coalition of the Democrats is being shattered.
When you see things like hold on a second, a
majority of black eimage of Latino voters, for example, agree
with Trump on deportations. Well, well, you know, the the
oh it's so racist stuff doesn't work the same way
that it used to.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I also think, and this ties in with what we
started the show with what did black voters get from BLM.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
In fact, we're worse than that, got worse nothing but downside, yeah, yeah,
everything got worse from BLM. And I think a lot
of black voters are looking around now and saying, boy,
we spray painted a street black Matter, Black Lives Matter Plaza,
but thousands of black kids got killed because we said
cops shouldn't be able.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
To do the job.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And now I think you're gonna see I think a
lot of black voters are going to say, yeah, I
kind of support Trump calling in more security and more
uh individuals to stop violent pro violent crime from happening.
And the Democrat perspective of violent crime isn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Do you think that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
A mom in Saint Louis or Inner City Memphis, or Washington,
d C. Or Philadelphia, do you think she's looking around saying,
you know what Democrats are right, Crime's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
We don't need more here. Or do you think for
her son and daughter, do you think she wants more
security on the streets. I think most black moms and
dads want more security on the streets because they're not,
unfortunately or aware of the people committing the crimes.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Unfortunately, I think, to take your example, though, a lot
of people are told that the problems, especially the problems
of poverty and problems of crime and everything, that this
is all a cause by racism, and that the belief
that the Democrats have instilled in black, white, Asian, Hispanic,
(28:54):
you name it, the belief that Democrats have instilled in
their true believers, is that the problems of crime in
major American cities are all attributable to racism of the
other that that's actually the problem. And that's certainly the
case with how they approach police, it's certainly the case
with how they approach who they're going to vote for.
(29:14):
They're going to vote for the people who are going
to continue to tell them, Hey, it's racism that causes
all these problems, and if you put me in power,
I will attack your racist enemies and I will protect you.
And unfortunately, that just results in more of what we see,
which is the degradation of these urban centers, in particular
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high crime, fatherlessness, poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunities,
go down.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
The whole list.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I think, though, that it is increasingly not resonating, and
I think BLM actually exposed it because that was them saying, hey,
we're going to speak out for black lives, and thousands
of innocent black people ended up dead because cops weren't
able to work.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
You play. The only people who know that data listen
to shows like this. Now that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
But I think, do.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You think they talk about this on shows where the
audience is overwhelmingly urban? Do you think they talk about
this on they get people that stat They do not.
They will not tell people that the DC murder rate
in twenty twenty three into twenty twenty four, when was
one of the highest in history of that city.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But I think they feel that they're being lied to,
and I hope. I mean, look, think about this in
twenty twenty four and I know it's green shoots. I
mean it's just starting. One in every five Black guys
voted Trump. One in every five. Now I think it
should have been three in every five, right, because men
(30:45):
overwhelmingly voted Trump. But what out of every five is
a big difference. That means, you know, in a group
of five guys on average that voted, one of them
was a Trump guy. For black voters, that's transformed because
that one guy. And I know a bunch of you
are listening to us right now, and that that guy,
that black guy out there who voted Trump. You're now
(31:07):
with your buddies sitting around talking, and you can share
those stats, because when it's one in ten or it's
one in twenty, it's hard to be the guy that
broaches that topic. I think when it gets to one
in five, in the same way you sit around and
talk about sports, the conversation is a more natural one.
And I think every day more people are like, wait
(31:29):
a minute, we're being sold to bill of goods. I'm
optimistic on the direction this is going. Could it be
going faster? Yes, and I wish, but I really think
it's happening. Clay is once again the optimistic one here.
I'm e or sitting here telling you be grumpy about
this because it's not happening fast. People are not realizing
the truth nearly fast enough on this. I just know, Buck.
(31:50):
Let me give you an example. I was in Atlanta
for the All Star Game. I don't think I mentioned
this on the audio.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I was.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know, they had a lot of large security presence
for the All Star Game, right, so I'm staying next
door to the All Star game. Three different black cops
on my walk from the exit of my hotel to
the stadium area stopped me said, Hey, I'm hearing what
you're saying. Thanks for having our back in Atlanta. Three
(32:18):
different black cops as I was just walking. I mean,
I'm telling you that conversation, I am super optimistic is
happening in a real way that it was.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That that doesn't surprise me. People who live people who
you know you're talking about cops. We have cops back,
but we have the back of black law enforcement. We
have the black of black people who want to live
in peace and security in their own neighborhoods, in their
own communities. But it's just tough to get that word
(32:49):
out because people are still just honestly, they're just lying
about this stuff. Like I said, I would debate, I'll
put it out there now, but not that this stuff
really I'll debate anybody in the country on DC chrome
I'm from the left, anybody right. There's not a single
person in the country that I wouldn't be willing to
go up again who's worth the time because they would
get smoked. And I I'm totally confident in that.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
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Speaker 2 (35:20):
By the way the answer for the tallest mountain in
the contiguous forty eight. For those of you out there
that have quiz bowl Mount Whitney in California, I think
that probably surprised you, many of you to know that
the tallest mountain was in California. So all of you
Colorado trash talkers, frankly, California is like dusting their shoulders off.
(35:41):
You got nothing here, John, and Longview, Washington. More than
one way to measure a mountain fire away.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
John, Yeah, so there's more one way to measure a mountain.
There's one way is from a sea level to the
top of the mountain, and the other one is just
measuring the mountain itself. I think about four foot cone
sitting on the floor and a one foot cone sitting
on top of a three foot desk. The Rocky Mountains
lay on an inner continental plateau and have almost a
(36:10):
mile head start of anything else. I think you'll find
Mount Rainier from the sea level measurement is one of
the biggest around in Washington State.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I just kind of this offer that we need John
to leave some chicks for the rest of us right now.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
There's also a lot of guys out there like, yeah,
I know, there's lots of different ways to measure, trust me.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Sometimes it's motion and motion of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
By the way, Trump has Trump has announced a ninety
day additional additional extension on the China trade deal.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Bucks lost it, We'll see the bar
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prophets because it's all the Towers Foundation. And we've got
some big news that we've been talking about today. We
have Trump announcing the federalization temporary federalization or federalizing of
(00:45):
the Metro Police, which is DC Police. You know, they're
the ones that for my friends who used fake IDs
to go drink in Georgetown when they were in college,
would arrest them and take their fake IDs. Yeah, that
was they were harsh. They were harsh on fake IDs
back in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And oh they brought in They brought in the paddy
wagon to GW and would arrest people in massive numbers
for fake IDs in d Say think.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
About that, fake IDs. You want to go drink a beer.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Some kid who goes to GW as parents are paying
like seventy grand a year to send them there.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
They'll lock you up.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But you know, carjacking, I don't know, you're seventeen. No
big deal, no, no big whoop. So yeah, great crazy times,
my friends. But Trump is taking action there and hook
he's got Judge Janin as the US attorney. Some interesting
things I'll just point out to everybody. We haven't discussed it.
I want to get to the Russia conversation a little
bit as well for Friday, because there's a big moment
(01:39):
on the world stage for Trump and his deal making
and international diplomacy and whether you care about Ukraine or not,
we're three hundred billion plus in the hole for paying
for this war. That's real money. And the longer we're involved,
the more expensive it gets, and the greater the possibility
of some kind of you know, mission creep I think becomes.
(02:00):
Trump will try to keep us out of it, but
it's still you know, you don't want wars like this
going on. Okay, it's bad for humanity. A lot of
casual is bad for business. So Trump's trying to end
the whole thing, bring it to a ceasefire, and get
some kind of negotiated set. We'll talk about that in
a second.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
The Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
One thing keep in mind is Judge Janine. Have you
ever done Judge Janine show, Clay you've done her show before.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh yeah, yes, And I've seen her at Fox News
a ton because obviously she was one of the stars
of the five, so she's in the green room all
the time.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, So, I mean I usually do her Saturday. You
had a Saturday show back the day a solo show.
Used to do her show pretty regularly. She's a great lady,
a lot of fun, sharp is you can get I
mean sharp is attack uh, and also fearless. There's a
fierce lady and does not does not appreciate people praying
on the innocent, and is gonna drop the hammer. Now
(02:53):
that she's the US attorney so she's the chief law
enforcement officer in essence, in well, prosecutorial law enforcement is
the attorney general right for the whole country. But she's
the chief prosecutorial arm for the federal government in d C.
She is the prosecutor making a lot of decisions in
the district, things that people don't even really think about
(03:15):
very often. Clay, there's often two different jurisdictions that criminals
run a foul of. They run a foul of state
and federal at the same time, and drugs is one
of them. So anytime there's drug activity, especially if it
involves people with a firearm and a legal firearm, drugs
and firearms, illegal drugs and firearm and the same premises,
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for example, that's a violation of federal law.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Felon in possession of.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
A firearm, that's a violation of federal law. Intend to
distribute violation of federal law. I mean, there's all these
areas where the DC prosecutor could be overridden or I
should say could be pushed aside, where the federal prosecutor,
judge and need steps in. And I think that's where
there's some opportunity here, because if local law enforcement wants
(04:02):
to work with federal law enforcement to take these bad
guys off.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The streets, a huge part of it is.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Will they actually be punished and taken out of circulation.
So they can't pray upon the innocent anymore. With Judge Janine,
I think the answers are resounding. Yes, I agree, and
I just again we read the DC Police Union take
on this. This is another example of Trump being a
(04:28):
masterful controller of the narrative. We have discussed having mourning
press conferences and how brilliant we think they are because
you have all of the media show up, they all
report on exactly what Trump says, and then he controls
the narrative for the day. The narrative for the week
is violent crime. We're attacking it in DC. Democrats now
(04:52):
have lined up and said, oh, crime's not actually that
bad in DC. I think that's a tough putt to
sink for them. And also Trump has now set the
table for Friday with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
This was my favorite.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He gave a lot of detailed analysis of the situation
coming in the discussions with Vladimir Putin. And we've heard
a lot of that before, We've talked about it with
him on this program quite a lot. But I like
this question He said, how will you know what the
outcome of the negotiation is likely to be? I thought
this was the perfect Trump response, play that cut.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, we're gonna have a meeting with Vladimir Putin, and
at the end of that meeting, probably in the first
two minutes, I'll know exactly whether or not a deal
can be.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Waiting, because that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I make deals.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I was a perfect answer to that question.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It is a perfect answer, And I mean, I do
think it's worth pointing out that eight years ago they
told all of us that Trump needed to be twenty
fifth Amendment amendment did then ignored Biden for four years.
And I know we're only two hundred days.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
There, so we know, cansea We know they know what
the twenty fifth Amendment is because they used to do
nightly news cycles on CNN in the first term.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But we need the twenty fifth Amendment for Trump. And
then the Biden administration like, I don't know what the
twenty fifth Amendment is.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They pretended that they didn't notice. When Biden would walk
out with the note cards and it would tell him
exactly who to call in in what order. He would
hold them in his hands. It was impossible. He would
even say, Biden would I don't know who do they
have me asking questions of next? And he would look
down at his list, and Trump on a daily basis
(06:32):
just shows up and answers every question under the sun.
It's hard not to watch. And I know many of
you probably were watching today if you were home, if
you had some flexibility, but the degree of conversational topic
and tone and information that he is processing on a
day to day basis, whether it was what's going on
with Ukraine, how to analyze Zelensky and Putin's perspectives in
(06:55):
the United States responsibility there breaking down all of the
data on DC crime and why it was unacceptable and pivoting,
and also being really funny. I liked this clip too.
I believe we have it where Peter Doocey says hey,
because they had such an overflow media attendance, Peter Doocy said, hey,
(07:16):
maybe we could build a nicer White House press briefing room,
and Trump had a good rejoinder there, listen to this.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You're building the big beautiful ballroom.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Could we build a big, beautiful briefing room.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I don't want you. I don't want you to be
comfortable now.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't want to make I don't want to make
life comfortable now.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
This is also I think you know we had Trump
walking around last week on the roof.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It does feel to me.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Tell me if you think I'm crazy on this buck,
because the answer could be yes. It feels like the
press corps is even warming up a bit to Trump,
and Trump might even be warming up a bit to
the press corps. He feels more comfortable. I mean, you
just heard that laughter erupt. I don't remember there being
a lot of press conferences where laughter happened because the
first term Democrats sent the message, oh you can't laugh
(08:13):
at a joke from Adolph Hitler. That's unacceptable. And at
a minimum, it feels like that level of derision and
discomfort in that relationship is gone. It feels like they
kind of enjoy I mean, after maybe it's after covering
Biden too, that they actually do enjoy just being able
to do a job.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I think some of the fake news has been brought
to heal. That doesn't mean that they've changed. It doesn't
mean that they've seen the error of their ways. Necessarily,
they just realize I can't just keep running up this
hill and getting mowed down.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It's just not worth it, you.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Know, might as well just ask a normal question and
get a real answer instead.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Of what does it feel like to be hitler President Trump?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You know, the the Acosta remember Jim Acosta from sann
His whole thing was getting into arguments with Trump and
then talk about how Trump was a fascist. Like well,
generally in totalitarian societies, if you stand up to the
autocrat and try to humiliate him in public, you don't
become richer and more famous and nothing bad happens to you,
which is what was happening in the first time of Trump.
(09:17):
So that was that was a bit laughable, little bit absurd.
But on the on the funny line that he had
about about Putin and the two minutes, uh and Clay,
you know, we can get into some of this.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's a little bit ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Obviously, the actual sit down is going to be on Friday.
I don't think there's gonna be a deal, and I
think this is gonna start forcing some really difficult questions
to come forward. I think Trump is going to be
I think Trump is giving Putin one last chance here
before you get you know, he's been good cop, bad cop.
(09:52):
He's about to be bad cop with with Putin. I
think that's what we're gonna see.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And I want to point out, and I've not seen
it discussed very much. I think the reason why Putin
is meeting is actually because Trump levied significant tariffs on
India for their purchase of Russian oil and gas. Because,
for those of you out there who have maybe not
been paying a lot of attention to this, much of
(10:16):
our sanctions on Russia relate to Russian oil and gas
and what it has led to. And there I know
a lot of you out there listen who are involved
in the oil and gas industry. So you guys know
this way better than me. So if you want to
call in and explain even better than I'm about to,
what's happened is Russia then has gotten desperate and they
(10:37):
are selling their oil and gas on the black market,
and they are selling it a lot to India and
a lot to China at reduced rates relative to what
the price of oil and gas is on the global market.
And so what Trump did with India was he said, hey,
wait a minute, India, you're not going to continue to
get this discount on Russian oil and gas. I'm going
(10:59):
to put a substantial tariff on you so that you
now are having to pay the consequences for buying effectively
black market oil and gas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Move is what led Putin to go and meet with Trump,
because without the oil and gas money being sold on
the black market to China and to India, then there
isn't an ability for Putin to finance his war. And
so I think this was a more aggressive move, maybe
than Vladimir Putin was expecting. Now the question becomes a
(11:32):
lot of the sanctioning we did on Russia did not work,
because all we did was say, hey, instead of McDonald's,
they took over the McDonald's right, and they rebranded it whatever.
They rebranded it all over Russia. So the Western asset connection.
But I think this oil and gas move think I
think it rocked Putin a little bit, and I think
it got him to meet. Now, to your point, Buck,
(11:55):
the number one question, and this is what Trump, I
think will say when he knows whether the negotiation is
going to.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Happen or not.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Nobody can tell us what Russia actually wants as a
viable means to end this war. Where is that squiggly
line that Vladimir Putin would accept. Trump said, hey, he
thinks that the goal was to take all of Ukraine,
and obviously Ukraine has fought back to keep that from happening.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So what does that settlement look like.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I thought it was interesting Buck when he went into
talking about value of land and he said, hey, much
of Ukraine is now landlocked because a lot of the land,
that including Crimea, that Russia has taken over, has limited
their ability to have access to the sea.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Part of the problem. I mean, I think Trump's sanctions
are the right move. But you're bringing up clay that
it's black market. I mean, the Russians, India and China
are going to buy reduced oil and gas no matter
what we say, and they're going to say they're not
doing it right.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I mean, this is correct.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So that's why the tariff ultimately comes in because he's like,
screw you guys, Okay, you got fifty percent tariffs.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Then in India. Well, but but they're gonna say, why
are we getting this tariff? We're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You know, you get into this game of are they
buying the oil or not? How do you prove it?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But I think Trump, to your point, Trump's just gonna say,
if you haven't convinced me that's not that's not good enough.
So we'll talk a little more about where I think
the or where we think this Russia situation is going
to go. But it's a big moment for uh, it's
a big moment for Trump on the world stage. As
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Speaker 2 (14:44):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Let's get to some of your talkbacks. Here.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
We got several different ones out there, people reacting to
a variety of different topics. Let's start at the top.
Let me go ahead and pull these up. This is
podcast listener Steve from Texas. I talked to Buck. You
can listen to this book about our mountain controversy after
you went to the Highlands. Here is AA podcast listener
(15:14):
Steve Hi.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
This is Steven Texas. I was just listening to the
really interesting thing about the Rocky Mountains and the Great
Smoky Mountains and how tall they were and everything, and
the geologists who called it and made an interesting point
that if we waited around four hundred million years we
could find out. I'd be willing to bet that if
we did wag around four hundred million years, Nancy Pelosi
would still be in Congress when we were debating this.
So thanks love the show, guys.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Thank you, And she would be trading the stock market
very effectively too, yes you know that.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
No telling how much money she'd be worth.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Then.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Podcast listener Jeff in Portland, BB, what do you got hey?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Clon book? This is Jeff in Portland. Those piles of
rocks in the Colorado area they call mountains.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
They're great.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But in Oregon and Washington, California, we've got volcanoes fourteen
twelve fifteen thirteen thousand feet They actually blow up and
do things as opposed to just piles of rock sitting there.
They look great, but we've got real mountains.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Did you know?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Because I actually had my son looking this up. We
were having a discussion about this after everybody went after
me for my mountain knowledge.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
The tallest mountain in.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
The forty eight contiguous states because Alaska spoiler alert, has
actually the tallest mountains in the United States. Do you know,
Buck Sexton, what state has the tallest peak mountain in
the forty eight states?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Is a Washington state? Good guess? Six?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
According to my son who if he's wrong on this
mount Rainier, I think is the sixth tallest mountain in
the United States. California, I am told, has the tallest mountain.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Stunned me. I didn't know that, And uh.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well, I got one for you, mister fancy pants. All right,
that's actually technically part of the Appalachia or Appalachian Range.
What is the tallest mountain.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Of the uh? I believe damn it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Is it the tallest east of the Mississippi? Or is
the tallest in the northeast? The tallest mountain in the northeast?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Clay uh oh? In the northeast, I don't know. I
would bet like maybe New Hampshire. The man of the
mountain is that that's northeast.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's Mount Mount Washington, which the better statistic for Mount
Washington is it's the place that has the highest ever
recorded wind speed in the world, in the world ever.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Mount Washington. True story, it is uh. I look this up.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The two tallest parts east of the Rockies are in
North Carolina. Klingman's Nome, I believe was the third tallest. Again,
this is the kind of nerdy stuff that I got
into Mount Mitchell. Mount Mitchell is the tallest mountain in
the Appalachian Range according to the Google search I just
did in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
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here we go, clay In Buck continuing on our conversation
of the most important things going on today across this
(18:58):
great land of ours and around the world. As we said,
Trump meeting on Friday with Boutin. He's gonna sit down
with him and try to hammer out some kind of
a deal. He says, they'll be land swaps. I watched
the whole press conference this morning, and it was, like
I said, both very informative and very entertaining. That's one
thing about Trump. This is just a quick aside, one
thing about Trump that when he's no longer president, I
(19:20):
think everybody everybody will miss. Politics is never going to
be as as at that level, as amusing and engaging
as it has been for us in the Trump era.
Like you're just not going to have somebody I think
very unlikely you're going to have anybody who I mean,
Trump is just such a phenomenon when it comes to
just the things he says and the way he says
(19:42):
it and how he presents you know, I remember even
the excuse me, I remember during the Obama years having
to watch press conference so boring, so boring. Remember watching
j Carney, Everybody watching smarmy Jay Carney up there is
what the president thinks. It's like, ugh, it was so boring.
It was like that felt like a job. Watching a
Trump press conference is entertainment. It's not really a job.
(20:04):
It's like I'm getting paid to watch soap opera or something.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I just want.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean to reiterate that enjoy it because I don't know,
not only just in terms of sheer enjoyment.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But also just in terms of trying to fix.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Everything that's wrong at once, which Trump is uniquely focused on.
Most politicians are obsessed with trying to get re elected.
Trump is obviously, I know he's saying, hey, I'd like
to run again. And by the way, I think a
lot of people would like to vote for him again.
His term is going to end in January of twenty nine,
(20:40):
and this is what I've said on the show for
some time, and some of you immediately respond to tell
me I'm crazy, But I think you actually agree with
this take. As soon as the midterms are over, Democrats
are going to pivot from Trump is Hitler to Republicans
are never going to have a politician as good as Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He's one in a million.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They're never going to get the The MAGA base is
not going to follow the new guy. He's a once
in a lifetime president. That watch how quickly that pivot
happens from He's hitler, Democracy is over to you guys
are never gonna have anybody this good. And it's gonna
make your head spin how quickly it happens. But as
soon as the midterms are over, Boom were on.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
To the next race. You know I was.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I told everybody that I was in. I was in
Highlands North Carolina, not to be confused with the Highlands
of Scotland. Highland North Carolina. Highlands North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know what's funny though, was we flew into Ashville.
You know what, I was unable to attend, Unfortunately, Clay.
There was a big Bernie Sanders rally in Ashville. Now,
I can't throw it too much shade at Ashville because
despite the fact that it is a place of a
lot of leftism, it's very beautiful area, but a lot
of leftism. A lot of people walking around as well,
(21:55):
with purple hair nose rings and a tremendous amount of
cipher bowl tattoos. I'm just saying, this is what I observed.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Men do. They have good brunch food and coffee shops.
I gotta say, I.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Don't know what it is, something about anarchists who look
like they haven't talked to their parents in a very
long time and have a lot of piercings and whatever.
The gauge I think it's called the gauge when you
have the big round thing in your eat. Right, man,
they make a good latte. I don't know what to say.
You know, I'm a coffee guys. We all know they
make a good latte. But Bernie did a rally there
(22:29):
and I just think it's this is the guy. He
is still the guy for Democrats. The biggest draw on
the stump is Bernie Sanders. Here he is on the
you want to here he is on the Jerryman And
this is fourteen. This is Bernie Sanders lay weighing in
laying into it, play it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You think democratic governors should try to push back. I
think the same thing.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
I think they have no choice. I mean what Trump
is trying it reunderstands that there is a good chance
that Republicans will lose control the House. I would hope
the Senate as well. That'll be a tough fight. So
we're trying to make, you know, in his authoritarian way,
say hey, I don't want to lose elections. Let's rig
the system. Give me five more votes in Texas to
(23:11):
me maybe some other stakes. So what should Democrats do
sit back and say, oh, gee, Trump is doing as terrible,
we can't do anything. Let them win the election when
they shouldn't. So Democrats have got a fight back. I
think it's pathetic, but I think that's what they've got
to do.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
What is pathetic, First of all, it's the Texas state
legislature that's going to do the redistrict, not Trump.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's just funny.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Trump is behind every scary thing Trump is hiding under
Democrats beds now, every bad thing that they don't like,
Trump is behind.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And also let me give credit, and this is probably
going to shock people. It doesn't surprise me that Bernie
has an audience because I think he's wrong about everything,
but he has a coherent worldview.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
What is the world like, what.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You understand for better or worse? Bernie is a socialist
and he thinks that things are broken in America. And
I go back to a lot of you will remember
this in the twenty fifteen early twenty sixteen New Hampshire primary,
for instance. I guarantee you listening to us right now,
are some died in the world Trump people who when
(24:18):
they were going to vote, they were going to vote
trying to decide between Bernie and Trump in twenty sixteen
because they were the most disruptive candidates out there, both
the Republican side and the Democrat side. And for people
out there who feel like things are broken, what Bernie offers,
I think it makes things worse, but it is a
(24:39):
coherent worldview. What does the Democrat Party stand for outside
of socialism and outside of Bernie? And I would argue
that somewhat this is what is appealing to individuals about
Mom Donnie. What does the chem Jefferies represent, What does
Chuck Schumer represent? I don't really think they have a
coherent philosophic, philosophical worldview that responds to people.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think the central ethos of the Democrat Party up
up to this moment and stretching back now for really
a couple of decades, has been race politics. For race communism.
I really believe this that that's the There's other things,
you know, there's gender communism or whatever you want to
call it to you. There's these other things as well
where they take this collectivist and and you know, anti traditionalist,
(25:29):
anti god, anti morality point of view. There's a lot
of things you could but I think that if you're
looking for the one thing that you've had to be
willing to go along with more than any other for
twenty years in the Democrat Party, it is. It is
race communism. It is the race politics, politics, identity policy,
it's all that you know. I prefer race communism because
(25:50):
I want to be very clear that I think it
should be completely disparaged and dismissed. And what's so critical
of what Trump. We're so important about what Trump is
doing is he's going right at that. The Supreme Court
has too, I might add, which gets ignored by a
lot of people. All this race communism stuff is illegal
that these places are still doing. They're not actually supposed
(26:10):
to do this. If the Constitution matters, then Supreme Court
matters to Democrats. And what we see across the board
is these universities playing games, people still playing games with
hiring HR departments, still trying to get away with this stuff.
But that has been the central unifying characteristic of the
Democrat Party for twenty for you know, twenty years is
(26:31):
kind of just a rough estimate of it, because more
so than class it used to be class warfare. Early
two thousands, I think it was more class warfare stuff,
that's right, and now especially going into two thousand and
eight era with the Wall Street meltdown, But now it
really has turned into race politics and Trump is breaking that.
And that's why I think the Democrats are in such disarray,
(26:52):
because the race coalition of the Democrats is being shattered.
When you see things like hold on a second, a
majority of black eimage of Latino voters, for example, agree
with Trump on deportations. Well, well, you know, the the
oh it's so racist stuff doesn't work the same way
that it used to.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I also think, and this ties in with what we
started the show with what did black voters get from BLM.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
In fact, we're worse than that, got worse nothing but downside, yeah, yeah,
everything got worse from BLM. And I think a lot
of black voters are looking around now and saying, boy,
we spray painted a street black Matter, Black Lives Matter Plaza,
but thousands of black kids got killed because we said
cops shouldn't be able.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
To do the job.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And now I think you're gonna see I think a
lot of black voters are going to say, yeah, I
kind of support Trump calling in more security and more
uh individuals to stop violent pro violent crime from happening.
And the Democrat perspective of violent crime isn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Do you think that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
A mom in Saint Louis or Inner City Memphis, or Washington,
d C. Or Philadelphia, do you think she's looking around saying,
you know what Democrats are right, Crime's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
We don't need more here. Or do you think for
her son and daughter, do you think she wants more
security on the streets. I think most black moms and
dads want more security on the streets because they're not,
unfortunately or aware of the people committing the crimes.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Unfortunately, I think, to take your example, though, a lot
of people are told that the problems, especially the problems
of poverty and problems of crime and everything, that this
is all a cause by racism, and that the belief
that the Democrats have instilled in black, white, Asian, Hispanic,
(28:54):
you name it, the belief that Democrats have instilled in
their true believers, is that the problems of crime in
major American cities are all attributable to racism of the
other that that's actually the problem. And that's certainly the
case with how they approach police, it's certainly the case
with how they approach who they're going to vote for.
(29:14):
They're going to vote for the people who are going
to continue to tell them, Hey, it's racism that causes
all these problems, and if you put me in power,
I will attack your racist enemies and I will protect you.
And unfortunately, that just results in more of what we see,
which is the degradation of these urban centers, in particular
(29:36):
high crime, fatherlessness, poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunities,
go down.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
The whole list.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I think, though, that it is increasingly not resonating, and
I think BLM actually exposed it because that was them saying, hey,
we're going to speak out for black lives, and thousands
of innocent black people ended up dead because cops weren't
able to work.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
You play. The only people who know that data listen
to shows like this. Now that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
But I think, do.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You think they talk about this on shows where the
audience is overwhelmingly urban? Do you think they talk about
this on they get people that stat They do not.
They will not tell people that the DC murder rate
in twenty twenty three into twenty twenty four, when was
one of the highest in history of that city.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But I think they feel that they're being lied to,
and I hope. I mean, look, think about this in
twenty twenty four and I know it's green shoots. I
mean it's just starting. One in every five Black guys
voted Trump. One in every five. Now I think it
should have been three in every five, right, because men
(30:45):
overwhelmingly voted Trump. But what out of every five is
a big difference. That means, you know, in a group
of five guys on average that voted, one of them
was a Trump guy. For black voters, that's transformed because
that one guy. And I know a bunch of you
are listening to us right now, and that that guy,
that black guy out there who voted Trump. You're now
(31:07):
with your buddies sitting around talking, and you can share
those stats, because when it's one in ten or it's
one in twenty, it's hard to be the guy that
broaches that topic. I think when it gets to one
in five, in the same way you sit around and
talk about sports, the conversation is a more natural one.
And I think every day more people are like, wait
(31:29):
a minute, we're being sold to bill of goods. I'm
optimistic on the direction this is going. Could it be
going faster? Yes, and I wish, but I really think
it's happening. Clay is once again the optimistic one here.
I'm e or sitting here telling you be grumpy about
this because it's not happening fast. People are not realizing
the truth nearly fast enough on this. I just know, Buck.
(31:50):
Let me give you an example. I was in Atlanta
for the All Star Game. I don't think I mentioned
this on the audio.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I was.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know, they had a lot of large security presence
for the All Star Game, right, so I'm staying next
door to the All Star game. Three different black cops
on my walk from the exit of my hotel to
the stadium area stopped me said, Hey, I'm hearing what
you're saying. Thanks for having our back in Atlanta. Three
(32:18):
different black cops as I was just walking. I mean,
I'm telling you that conversation, I am super optimistic is
happening in a real way that it was.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That that doesn't surprise me. People who live people who
you know you're talking about cops. We have cops back,
but we have the back of black law enforcement. We
have the black of black people who want to live
in peace and security in their own neighborhoods, in their
own communities. But it's just tough to get that word
(32:49):
out because people are still just honestly, they're just lying
about this stuff. Like I said, I would debate, I'll
put it out there now, but not that this stuff
really I'll debate anybody in the country on DC chrome
I'm from the left, anybody right. There's not a single
person in the country that I wouldn't be willing to
go up again who's worth the time because they would
get smoked. And I I'm totally confident in that.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, your point, which is a good one, and this
is something that everybody needs to think about. This why
I want you guys subscribing to our YouTube channel. You
got to be everywhere because the traditional legacy media voices
are collapsing, and so where people get their news TikTok, YouTube, Instagram.
I mean not necessarily the traditional radio shows like you're
(33:31):
listening to right now, or the traditional television shows. You
got to be everywhere. And look, we're talking about taking
care of your family, doing whatever you can to try
and help them. Let me tell you something. If you're
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we can't sit these two next to each other.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
They've been going at it since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
If your mom and your grandma and your grandpa and
your dad out there and you're thinking about this, you
spend your whole life trying to make things better for
your face family. Have you thought about what would happen
if you weren't there. Who's gonna be the referee, who's
going to be the peacemaker in your family? Have you
thought about how to keep your family from fighting about
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Speaker 2 (35:20):
By the way the answer for the tallest mountain in
the contiguous forty eight. For those of you out there
that have quiz bowl Mount Whitney in California, I think
that probably surprised you, many of you to know that
the tallest mountain was in California. So all of you
Colorado trash talkers, frankly, California is like dusting their shoulders off.
(35:41):
You got nothing here, John, and Longview, Washington. More than
one way to measure a mountain fire away.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
John, Yeah, so there's more one way to measure a mountain.
There's one way is from a sea level to the
top of the mountain, and the other one is just
measuring the mountain itself. I think about four foot cone
sitting on the floor and a one foot cone sitting
on top of a three foot desk. The Rocky Mountains
lay on an inner continental plateau and have almost a
(36:10):
mile head start of anything else. I think you'll find
Mount Rainier from the sea level measurement is one of
the biggest around in Washington State.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I just kind of this offer that we need John
to leave some chicks for the rest of us right now.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
There's also a lot of guys out there like, yeah,
I know, there's lots of different ways to measure, trust me.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Sometimes it's motion and motion of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
By the way, Trump has Trump has announced a ninety
day additional additional extension on the China trade deal.
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