August 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the political and cultural flashpoints dominating national headlines. The hour opens with a fiery discussion on President Donald Trump's crime reduction initiative in Washington, D.C., which has sparked intense backlash from left-wing commentators accusing him of federal overreach and authoritarianism. Clay and Buck dissect the media's reaction and highlight the irony of critics opposing efforts to make the nation's capital safer.
The hosts explore rising urban crime rates, citing firsthand accounts and statistics from cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, and Kansas City, and propose deploying National Guard troops as a potential solution. They emphasize the importance of law enforcement, incarceration of repeat offenders, and authentic political leadership in addressing violent crime.
In a compelling segment, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins the program to provide exclusive updates on the Texas redistricting battle, including legal actions against Democratic lawmakers who fled the state. Paxton outlines efforts to enforce quorum laws and criticizes the hypocrisy of Democrat-led states with heavily gerrymandered districts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate
all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Trump has broken left wing minds by telling them, Hey,
I'm going to keep you from getting killed this. I
knew it was going to be crazy the reactions, but
even for left wing meltdowns, the reaction from hey, my
goal is to make sure that less people are victims
of violent crime and less murders are taking place in Washington,
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d C. Has really, even for left wing insanity, gone
to a different level. We're going to break that down
for you here momentarily give you a little bit of
a heads up. We're going to continue to follow the
Texas redistricting battle, and we're going to be joined by
Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton at the bottom of
(00:50):
this hour to give us the absolute latest on what
the pursuit of Democrats who have fled the state is
actually going to entail, and so we will follow that
story with you along with many others. The New York
City mayor's race is heating up.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Buck. I saw George will on Bill Maher over the.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Weekend making the Clay Travis argument of Hey, maybe we
just have to let New York City stew in its
own ineptitude in order to and rather than try to
completely save them from their derangement. We'll talk about that,
maybe break down that universe, but I want to just
start and have some fun here.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We told you this was coming.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We said Trump is trying to save the lives of
tons of Democrat voters in Washington, DC and they are
not going to be able to handle it. By the way,
we should also mention consumer prices inflation low yet again
two point seven percent below expectations, making finally some of
(01:55):
those rate cuts start to appear more likely, maybe as
soon as next month. We talk about that as well,
But let's have some fun here.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Here is great montage from our producer Greg of left wings.
Left wingers complaining about the overreach of Donald Trump keeping
them from getting killed in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
This has cut three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Is in government overreach or something that our big cities
desperately need. They called to take over the capital, drawing
backlash critics accusing the president of overreaching, authoritarian overreached.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
They feel like this is federal overreach, this.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Is overreach, this is a feritarianism, this is an overreach.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
The sun necessary it's.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
About federal overreach.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's political overreach.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
This seems like a bit of an overreach.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It is amazing how well they deliver the exact same
talking points. Let me play a couple to be fair
here for you, Buck of left wing journalist actually saying,
you know what, it isn't safe in DC. Here was
to be fair Kyra Phillips at ABC News saying, hey,
DC's actually very dangerous cut six.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Usually that's how you played Devil's advocate as you talk about,
oh well, stat's say crime is down. However, I can
tell you firsthand here in downtown DC where we work,
right here around our bureau, just in the past six months,
you know, there were two people shot. One person died
literally two blocks down here from the bureau. It was
within the last two years that I actually was jumped
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walking just two blocks down from here. And then just
this morning one of my coworkers said her car was
stolen a block away from the bureau. So we can
talk about the numbers going down, but crime is happening
every single day because we're all experiencing at firsthand while
working and living down here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
One more buck, your buddy Joe Scarborough, who suddenly has
taken truth sarum and occasionally now says things that are
objectively true. Said, hey, privately, everybody's talking about how DC's unsafe,
and then publicly they're complaining because Trump's trying to make
it safer.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Cut seven.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
People have been calling me over the past couple of days, going,
you know, Washington should have gotten involved years ago. This
place is dangerous, it's a mess, it's a wreck, and whatever, and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Then they'll go on Twitter Goo as as they were.
It's outrage of all time.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
The jacking, which I understand a people need to express
their concerns about Donald Trump going too far. We saw
what happened back in twenty twenty with a national guard.
Certainly can't have any repeat of that. Don't want the
federalization of the entire city, but man, I don't care
what the crime statistics say. Crime has been a problem
(04:40):
in this city for the thirty two years. I've been
living inside and outside of the city. It's just, you know,
even now, Meek and I were talking to somebody who
lives in the city. These are all Democrats who said,
you know, our friends won't walk more than three blocks
in DC.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I mean, how it's like he was listening to the
Clay and Buck show yesterday and is now just reiterating
everything that we told you. Because we tell you the truth.
We tell you what's really going on, which is why
you grace us with your time and why this project
of getting to hang out with you all works as
(05:20):
well as it does, because we're all a team in
the truth. It is so obvious to anyone who is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And this is the thing too.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You have two guys here who have both lived in
d C, so we we know right this isn't some city.
I can quote statistics in Saint Louis to tell you
that it's dangerous. I can tell you stories, personal stories
about it. I remember I was woken up in the
middle of the night living at d C Clay and
what was considered a kind of a nice neighborhood. It
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wasn't Georgetown nice, but it was a nice enough neighborhoods
logan circle area for those of you who know DC.
And there was not a shooting. A shootout on my corner.
Two guys who are at one of the big hotel
chains I forget which one pulled guns on each other
and shot it out. Neither of them hit anyone. But
I remember being woken up in the middle of night
by this. You could say, oh, Buck, but that's anecdotal.
(06:08):
Everybody who lives in DC has these anecdotal stories no
matter where you live in DC. And that is a
different thing. It is a different thing, and they talked
about it. I did watch some Morning Joe this morning.
You know, Sorry, guys, that is a different thing they
talked about on Morning Joe. How if you live in Manhattan,
you might have a story about someone being crazy on
this In fact, if you take the subway, you definitely
(06:29):
have stories that some being crazy on the subway. And
you might have some stories about vagrins and about some
unsettling things. You don't have a story about the summer
intern who just got stabbed to death last week. Everybody
who lives in DC knows this. And one of the
brilliant things from that, that's the reality there. One of
the brilliant things here once again from Trump and Clay
you were hitting it hard yesterday. It's so important for
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everyone to know this. Trump is forcing them to defend
the indefensible once again. Once again, DC is not a
safe city. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. Or
just is ignorant and it should be a lot better.
The city Council in DC is so insane that the
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Democrats had to go along in Congress and override legislation
that they were trying to pass. The DC City Council
tried to make carjacking a less serious statute, and the
United States Congress was like, you guys are nuts. You
can't do that in our nation's capital because we have
to drive in to go to our jobs and we
don't want to be carjacked. Democrats Clay once again caught
(07:35):
completely flat footed on this. They look like buffoons. What
Trump's doing makes perfect sense. And if he shows results,
which by the way, I think he will, I think
there will be results from this. It'll just be another
w where Democrats look like they're the pro crime party
and the emotionally erratic liar party.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I also think this could be a pilot program. If
Trump surges National guardsmen and additional resources in Washington, d C.
And we see a market decline in violent crime, why
would that not be possible with state National Guard troops.
(08:17):
You mentioned Saint Louis. I was looking. I think I
let me see if I looked and flagged it. But
the cities that actually have the largest awful crime rates,
I was very kind of interested in that, And some
of them you would not be surprised by. Memphis is awful,
and Kansas City, I was surprised by, is incredibly awful
(08:41):
when it comes to violent crime. Why couldn't we apply
some of the same lessons that might be learned in Washington,
d C. To those cities and drive down violent crime everywhere?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Well, you absolutely could. And this is the critical point.
This is a choice the same way, and this is
really important, the same way that we saw that Biden's
open border was a choice. Trump has proven that letting
ten million people flood into the country under false asylum claims,
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entering illegally and then gaming our system and taking advantage
of the American people that did not have to happen.
Democrats chose to make that happen. They're also choosing for
crime to continue in all these cities at the level
that it is. I mean, you can go down the list,
play New Orleans, a beautiful city that I love way
too much crime. Saint louis so much crime that when
(09:32):
I visited our affiliate there a few years ago and
I asked my Uber driver. I was like, hey, downtown
looks kind of nice. He's like, don't walk alone at
night here.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I remember.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I'm like, in the main downtown, you're the sports stadium.
He goes, oh, no, don't walk alone at night. I said, okay,
that's not a big and everyone that I saw who
lived in the suburbs there said the same thing. It's
too dangerous at night.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Citi's like Baltimore City. I haven't been to Detroit. I
have spent a lot of time in Baltimore. Baltimore is
far too dangerous, far too much crime. The things that
they keep saying they want to do, oh we need
more like you know, social workers, or we need more
welfare programs or whatever, that doesn't do anything. Fighting crime
involves enforcing the law and locking up criminals. DC had
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three thousand, give or take, has about three thousand felony
arrests a year. Now, it's only three hundred and sixty
five days in a year, but three thousand felony arrests
in a year. Clay probably fifteen hundred to two thousand
people in DC are really doing the bad stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, really doing the bad stuff out.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Of a city of six hundred thousand. If you're willing
to lock up even five hundred to one thousand more
of these serious felons, you know what happens.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Everybody's safer one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And we're speaking as grown men, who I think, in general,
are less concerned with crime. I don't know about you.
I really don't think about being a victim of crime
that often. But I was having this conversation with my
wife the other day.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I mean, and Franklin, you might have like a squirrel
run across your roof where.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Not where I live, I mean anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But I was having this conversation with my wife and
she said, you know, you and Buckman talking about crime.
Every woman when she walks into a when she walks
into a parking garage, is her head is on a swivel.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
She's holding her keys to be used as a weapon.
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The most dangerous places, the most dangerous places, especially for women,
parking garages, gas station, parking garages, gas station, that's the
worst place for women to be specifically, I told my
wife recently.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I think I said it on the show.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Hey Nashville, where I live, certain neighborhoods feel unsafe I said,
you're not getting gas anymore in Nashville. Like, come out
to Franklin where we are after dark and you can
fill up the car. Plan it that way. But I
think that every man thinks about this in the context
of wife, daughter, mom. Every woman thinks about it all
(12:02):
the time. Right when crime is at a high level,
women are thinking about this all the time. And I
guarantee you, especially all the women that are in the
UH media and are conscious of the high rates of
violent crime that are going on, they actually agree. And
I think one of the things that this illuminates is
(12:23):
Trump says what lots of people think. And the difference
between authentic politicians and inauthentic politicians is what I give
them credit here. Joe Scarborough just pointed to, which is
most people agree with what Trump's doing privately, but publicly,
because it's Trump, they're claiming they don't. And I think
(12:45):
increasingly more and more of the American public is seeing
through the bs and saying, wait a minute, you said yesterday.
I think it's a good point. You could disagree on
tax rates or tariff rates. I mean, I just said
this on Fox News, but it's part disagreeing on keeping
people from getting murdered. Is a really tough argument to make, right, Hey,
I want less people to die violently is something.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That everybody in America should say. Hey, I'll sign on
to that.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Like I said, this is one of Clay's brave stands
on the show, solidly anti murder.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Did you see Homers?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Fox News actually shared from their twenty eight million Twitter
account or whatever, Clay Travis says he hates murder, and
I was like, finally I'm getting some credit here for
hating murder more than anybody else. That was actually their headline,
and so I appreciate the praise.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
There something else I want to point out, because we
were discussing the numbers, we should get into some of
the numbers, some more on this. And remember, if you're like, well,
it's our nation's capital, Clay, we don't want to just
take blue cities and let them rot, sir, whether it's
New York or DC. We will return to that conversation.
We want them to be the best they can be.
And people were saying, oh, well, look at the numbers,
(13:53):
look at the crime it's going down. There's already an indicator,
a pretty strong one that they're cooking the books, which
I'll also tell you even without this story, I knew
this was going on because anyone who lives in DC
will tell you not safe, Bad things are happening, not safe,
and the atmosphere there, And this is why Joe Scarborough,
Joe Scarborough's golf playing friends from the chevy Chase country
(14:17):
Club for those who know the DC area, I'm sure
he has a lot of them. A lot of Scarborough
watchers live in chevy Chase. They would be very miffed,
you know, Muffy and Buffy would be very upset if
Joe was saying that it was safe in downtown DC,
because they don't feel safe when they go to Pilate's
class in downtown. They know that bad things happen there.
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Speaker 4 (16:15):
Welcome back into Clay and Box. So the Texas redistricting
fight continuing to play out Democrats blood to day. We've
got Attorney General for the state of Texas, Attorney General Paxton,
will be with us in just a couple of minutes
to give us the latest update on that. He's also
got some breaking news that has hit today on that
that we'll be discussing with all of you. But here
(16:35):
is Governor Greg Abbott on where he stands on the
redistricting fight in his state.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Play it what these Democrats have done. They have turned
their back on the people of the state of Texas.
For one, it is gutless for Democrats to cut and run.
That's anti Texans. Ever since the time of the Alamo,
Texans have stood and fought their ground. Here a Democrats
are are fleeing like a bunch of chickens. They can
address both the redistricting map as well as all these
(17:01):
other issues that are so important to.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Their fellow Texas.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Know this, and that is average Texans who are watching
this show. They have to show up to work. If
they don't show up to work, they could get fired.
These Democrats think they are above that. These Democrats think, well,
they can take the day off, they can take the
month off, they can jet set across the country ignoring
their duty. By the Constitution, they are required to meet
and consider and act on every bill that becomes before them.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Look, I think it's a no brainer, and I want
to hear from the Attorney General of Texas what the
latest is. How long are these Texans going to stay
outside of the state. That's super weird. Just think about
your own life, how much if you have families, could
you just vanish like they are vanishing. We'll ask them
all the latest details about that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
We'll talk to the Attorney General about it, and maybe
we'll even can guys pull that clip from yesterday with
Betcho O'Rourke talking about how the border should be wide open,
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show appreciate everybody
hanging out with us. See as the Attorney General of Texas,
he is also running for the Republican nomination in the Senate.
He is Ken Paxton with us on. Now, okay, so
let's dive into the absolute latest here. The Democrats, to
my knowledge, remain outside of state borders. What should we
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expect to happen going forward, now, mister Attorney General.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Well, I don't know if this is a you know,
uncharted territory for all of us. I don't know exactly
what to expect, but we are We've filed actions in
both Illinois and California. You know, obviously they can move around,
but my understanding is many of THEMRT. In Illinois, we've
filed actions in that state asking the court there under
the full faith and credit provision of the US Constitution,
(19:47):
to honor our quorum warrants that were issued by the
Speaker of the House in Texas. So we'll see how
that goes. We're we're waiting on action there. We also
have our filings with you with the Tech Supreme Court
to try to remove thirteen different legislators for not for
being openly defiant of showing up for a session to
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deal with a lot of issues, not just registioning. And
that is on a sort of a two week time
frame with briefs due by the other side, then a
reply breef and then their reply REAF that's going to
be going over the next couple of weeks. And then
of course we have our actions that relate to fellow or'
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rourke and his pack and trying to hold him in
contempt for violating a temporary restraining order that was issued
by a court in Terrent County recently.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
So, mister Attorney General, if I could ask, could you
just reverse the look because for some of some of
our listeners, what is different about this time? This has
happened before, and there are people are saying, oh, this
is a game that has been played in the past.
What does the law say about like where are democrats
who have fled the state in violation of law? And
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how is this time If this time is different from
the past, how is it different from when they've tried
this before?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
So you know they tried it in two thousand and three.
I wasand Texas House obviously I was not in the
Training General's office in twenty twenty one. It didn't last
very long. This one, we have no idea how long
it's going to last. So, you know, they're all a
little different. I think as we've had more experience, you know,
my office has got more and more creative trying to
deal with these issues. And so these these ideas that
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we're proposing now are just ideas that we've come up
to be creative there. And as I said, they're new.
There's there's no experience really in trying what we're doing.
And the last two times we just outweighted them and
the governor. The governors kept calling Governor Perry governor have
kept calling them back, and eventually we got it. We
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got it done. So you know, I guess we're just
a little more action oriented and a little more creative
this time, trying to push the envelope to get them
back here sooner so we can get this done.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
What would you say?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And I'm going to get my popcorn, because I bet
the answer is going to be good to people like JB. Pritzker,
Governor of Illinois, to Kathy Hochel, Governor of New York,
to Gavin Newsom, governor of California, who say Texas is
effectively destroying democracy by redistricting, I would.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Say they're hypotrips. I mean, their own states are so jerrymander.
I mean, look at our maps versus their maps. It's
it's ridiculous to look at Illinois. Massachusetts, you know, has
zero Republican representative representation in the state that has thirty
seven percent Republican. Illinois forty has only three representatis that
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are Republicans. So, I mean, I don't know how they
say it with a straight face, but they do. Apparently
they're really willing to just be dishonest because they know
they've done it. They've done it for decades, and they're
just a pall that you guys can't do what we've done,
and and and and but yet here we are. You
guys in Texas are destroying democracy what we did when
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we gerrymandered our state to almost you know, many of
these states have no Republican representation. That is not destroying
democracy because we're democrats.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And so in.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Terms of the law, you're the attorney general for the
state of Texas, they are Are they in clear violation?
Are they arguing that what they're doing is somehow not
a violation of Texas statute because the way it's no surprise,
the way it talked about in the media. They pretend
like there's a lot of gray area and this is
done before. And you know, what does the law say
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about their obligation to actually show up for a quorum.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Well, they're obligated under house rules there there they represent
the people of of their area, but they're under they're
under obligation of their own rules that they've passed to
show up to vote. And when they don't do that,
they can be held in you know, basically in contempt
by the bill and by their own body. So they
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say that their own body voted on rules that they
were part of, it says exactly the opposite. So they're
not being honest. They're being very disingenuous, and of course,
as you're not surprised, the mainstream media plays along.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You're also in the midst of running as a Republican
candidate in the Senate race that will happen next year.
You're in the in the midst of a lot of
different things going on. How would you assess that that
race and do you think President Trump is likely to
weigh in in one form or fashion.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
So I mean, I did my polling before I got in,
but I used Cruises Polster. I used another polster with it.
Did Trump's polling? I did, and I did three polls.
All of them had me up by at least twenty
five points. I don't think that it's changed much. You know,
you can have different polsters looking at different things. But
it was very consistent. And it's based on John Cornyn's
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past twenty three years as a US Center and you
can go back furtherly. He's been in office, so I
was in college and I'm sixty two. He has not
represented Texas wall. He's he's been opposed to President Trump
being president both times, insinuated that he was guilty of crimes.
And now suddenly you any a conversion experience on April
Lake when I got on the race, and now he
loves Trump after hating him for the entire time he's
(25:28):
been in office. He's been opposed to building a wall
on the border, which most my constituents were disgusted by,
and the course President Trump had just the opposite view,
and he fought with Joe Biden to restrict Second Amendment rights,
which Texans obviously do not want Second Amendment rights restricted.
But he don Cornyn fought with Biden to make that happen.
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So if you look at his record, he has not
represented Texas well. There's not a distinguishing feature other than
he tells us now that he's with all of the time.
It's just not true, it's dishonest.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
You know, we're putting a lot of time and attention,
mister Attorney General on what's going on in DC now
with Trump trying to bring the crime numbers down and
federalizing the Metro Police for a period of time as
he can under the Home Rule Act of nineteen seventy
three for the District of Columbia. But we've also raised
how this could set a precedent, especially if there are
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points on the board, so to speak, if Trump shows
success here for other law enforcement efforts that would use
federal partners in conjunction with local law enforcement. And I'm
wondering if this is something that you're already considering or
are you in the are you in conversation with the
Trump White House about because you know, Houston, I have
a lot of friends in Houston, a lovely place, but
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there's some crime there, there's some crime problems, the same
thing I believe in Dallas in some areas. So I'm
wondering if this is something that you think could be
a template in your state or just in general across
the country.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
No, I think in general it's certainly something given to
These cities are very liberal. They're district attorneys funded by
so US. We have the same problem in you know,
Travis County, Austin, and other major cities in our state,
but they won't prosecute, and they defund the police and
make it very difficult for crime to be prosecuted. So
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I don't know, since in my case, the legislature doesn't
give authority to the attorney general to prosecute crimes, leaves
it up to the DA's I think any help we
can get from the federal government shut down crime and
stop the increase that we have in our cities that
are run by Democrats on for.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Ultimately, do you expect I know the FBI has gotten involved,
do you expect for there to be any arrest outside
of state of any of these Texas lawmakers?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
What is the rubber meets the road moment? At some
point the expectation, I think is that they can't live
outside of the state forever and they'll have to return.
But while they're out of state, do you expect any
arrests or any seizures to occur.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I don't expect them in the FBI would have to
have a federal crime. I don't see them arresting. This
is not a federal crime. I mean, love it if
they could get them back somehow. For us, the actions
that we're taking in Illinois, I think are our best
shot is getting these states, these courts to recognize our
laws and help us get them back. Otherwise we're going
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to be in the same situation we've been in the past.
We just they don't want If they don't want to
live in Chicago the rest of their lives and go
through the winter, they're going to have to come back
to have jobs, families, And ultimately that has been successful
both times. It just took longer, and you know, we
spend a lot of money and waste a lot of time,
but ultimately we got our registring maps pasted in the
past both times. So we're not going to give up.
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We're just trying to expect the process because it's ridiculous
that this that's what we have to go through.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
All right, biggest question right now for you.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The last time I think, Buck and I saw you
in person was actually at a Texas Alabama football game
down in Austin. Within about three weeks, basically one v.
Two is going to be taking place. The Texas Longhorns
have opened as the number one team in the country.
They're going on the road in Columbus, Ohio against the
defending national champion Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Buck, Guys, what happens?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I'm optimistic that Texas will pull it out. They've done
it before. The last time I went to a Texas
Ohio State game on the road was when Texas won
the national championship and they beat Ohio State at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That was Ben's young, right, If I remember correctly, I
was there.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
I loved it, and no one expected us to win
that game. But I am predicting we're gonna have a repeat.
I think it was two thousand and five of the
Ohio State opening game against Texas where Texas pulled out
a win.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I remember that game like it was yesterday, you know, Buck.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That led into what I think is the greatest college
football game of my life into the year Rose Bowl
Texas USC the most watched college football game of the
twenty first century. That I imagine, mister Attorney General, you
sometimes think about fondly still to this day.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
I do.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I was there.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
I literally when the game was over, I thought, this
is the greatest college game I've ever seen. I almost thought,
how can I go to another college game after witnessing
this masterpiece really by both teams. It was just it
was just amazing. And I still get kind of chilled
talking about it because it was so remarkable. It's such
a remarkable game.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, look keep us updated on how this is going on.
You know, you can come on any time, and we
appreciate all the work y'all are doing down there.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Hey, I appreciate you guys. Have a gret day. We're
going to win this.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
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Speaker 4 (32:58):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck play. We need a
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Speaker 1 (33:04):
I was just making fun. Buck is like, what would
you even call that regripping? Regripping?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yes, yes, called regripping, regripping My racket right here, I
play with a Wilson. I'm playing some tennis this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So the knee is back in good shape, You're recovered, Like,
no injury issues at this point.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, it turns out if you drop forty pounds, your
joints are very thankful. This is another thing that I
have found out. Yeah, my knee all of a sudden
feels great. And it's like, I gotta give you credit,
by the way, because you got me on this. And
I'm like, I don't know why I haven't been doing
this a long time. I now just walk and take
phone calls in my neighborhood like a crazy person. I
think this should be if you can walk in your neighborhood, right,
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if you don't have to be on an interstate or
a super busy road, but if you can have a
conversation while walking on your phone and walk, you know, two, three,
four miles just while you're working, when otherwise you'd be
sitting at your death score what. I think it is
something that should be standard everywhere. And I see a
lot of people in my neighborhood doing it. But you
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talked about doing it more frequently, and now I've been
doing it for the past few weeks.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm walking way more.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm out and about and I can have the same
conversation that I would otherwise be having sitting in a chair.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, I remember when I went up and did some
training with Dj Shipley, who's a former Steel Team six
operator and runs GBRS group, which is just has really
cool gear and does all this great training for people.
You can go train with him just like I did.
He's a huge proponent. I mean you know, he's like,
you know, the ultimate warrior honestly. Yeah, And he's a
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huge proponent of walks. Walks for recovery, walk with your
spouse to just connect, like walk walk, walk, really critical stuff.
So I'm glad you're doing that, man, I didn't know it.
Also for weight loss, I didn't know this. I used
to think that I would run. For weight loss, I
would do running. And the problem with running, for one,
it's hard on your joints, on your knees as you
get older, that is true, and also it often has
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a stimulating effect on your appetite. So I would go
for a big walk and then be like, oh, like
now I need to have like a Giants user salad
with like extra chicken because I went for a run.
Whereas walking, you don't have the attendant hunger spike. So yeah, dude,
walking is a cheat code in so many ways. For
so go walk, like go walking, I carry and I
try to do it every day together, we go walk.
(35:25):
I think it's incredibly smart and also incredibly healthy. Laura's
gotten into it, and anyway, it's funny because everything cycles.
Because I remember when my mom was you know, when
I was a kid, my mom was a walker. It
was actually very popular, maybe more so than almost jogging.
And then jogging took over and everybody started jogging. But
to your point, first of all, I hate running, but
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when I ran, I was always so hungry. Because you do,
I think end up consuming way more calories because you are,
especially if you do long runs.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You got to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So the walking thing is like a great kind of
life hack, especially if you're someone who has to be
on the phone for calls a decent amount. Get out
and move like when you're doing them.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
This is why I've become particularly militant about zoom calls
unless someone really needs to see my face. You have
my full attention if I'm walking and I have my
headphones in. So yeah, no, I'm telling you for all
of you, if you can get into it. And but
if you live in a neighborhood but there's not really
great walking or whatever, get yourself a cheap treadmill and
just walk and take your calls, and walk and call
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family members.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It is a it is. It is a cheap coat.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
So I'm glad you're enjoying that. We'll get to some calls.
By the way, sorry, we'll get some calls, and we'll
get some talkbacks and all that good stuff coming up here.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Just a second.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
We are racked and stacked and yes, and I'm going
to continue to regrip and perhaps even restring my rackets.
So more fun stories about tennis coming up too. We'll
be right back
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate
all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Trump has broken left wing minds by telling them, Hey,
I'm going to keep you from getting killed this. I
knew it was going to be crazy the reactions, but
even for left wing meltdowns, the reaction from hey, my
goal is to make sure that less people are victims
of violent crime and less murders are taking place in Washington,
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d C. Has really, even for left wing insanity, gone
to a different level. We're going to break that down
for you here momentarily give you a little bit of
a heads up. We're going to continue to follow the
Texas redistricting battle, and we're going to be joined by
Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton at the bottom of
(00:50):
this hour to give us the absolute latest on what
the pursuit of Democrats who have fled the state is
actually going to entail, and so we will follow that
story with you along with many others. The New York
City mayor's race is heating up.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Buck. I saw George will on Bill Maher over the.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Weekend making the Clay Travis argument of Hey, maybe we
just have to let New York City stew in its
own ineptitude in order to and rather than try to
completely save them from their derangement. We'll talk about that,
maybe break down that universe, but I want to just
start and have some fun here.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We told you this was coming.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We said Trump is trying to save the lives of
tons of Democrat voters in Washington, DC and they are
not going to be able to handle it. By the way,
we should also mention consumer prices inflation low yet again
two point seven percent below expectations, making finally some of
(01:55):
those rate cuts start to appear more likely, maybe as
soon as next month. We talk about that as well,
But let's have some fun here.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Here is great montage from our producer Greg of left wings.
Left wingers complaining about the overreach of Donald Trump keeping
them from getting killed in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
This has cut three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Is in government overreach or something that our big cities
desperately need. They called to take over the capital, drawing
backlash critics accusing the president of overreaching, authoritarian overreached.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
They feel like this is federal overreach, this.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Is overreach, this is a feritarianism, this is an overreach.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
The sun necessary it's.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
About federal overreach.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's political overreach.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
This seems like a bit of an overreach.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It is amazing how well they deliver the exact same
talking points. Let me play a couple to be fair
here for you, Buck of left wing journalist actually saying,
you know what, it isn't safe in DC. Here was
to be fair Kyra Phillips at ABC News saying, hey,
DC's actually very dangerous cut six.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Usually that's how you played Devil's advocate as you talk about,
oh well, stat's say crime is down. However, I can
tell you firsthand here in downtown DC where we work,
right here around our bureau, just in the past six months,
you know, there were two people shot. One person died
literally two blocks down here from the bureau. It was
within the last two years that I actually was jumped
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walking just two blocks down from here. And then just
this morning one of my coworkers said her car was
stolen a block away from the bureau. So we can
talk about the numbers going down, but crime is happening
every single day because we're all experiencing at firsthand while
working and living down here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
One more buck, your buddy Joe Scarborough, who suddenly has
taken truth sarum and occasionally now says things that are
objectively true. Said, hey, privately, everybody's talking about how DC's unsafe,
and then publicly they're complaining because Trump's trying to make
it safer.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Cut seven.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
People have been calling me over the past couple of days, going,
you know, Washington should have gotten involved years ago. This
place is dangerous, it's a mess, it's a wreck, and whatever, and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Then they'll go on Twitter Goo as as they were.
It's outrage of all time.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
The jacking, which I understand a people need to express
their concerns about Donald Trump going too far. We saw
what happened back in twenty twenty with a national guard.
Certainly can't have any repeat of that. Don't want the
federalization of the entire city, but man, I don't care
what the crime statistics say. Crime has been a problem
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in this city for the thirty two years. I've been
living inside and outside of the city. It's just, you know,
even now, Meek and I were talking to somebody who
lives in the city. These are all Democrats who said,
you know, our friends won't walk more than three blocks
in DC.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I mean, how it's like he was listening to the
Clay and Buck show yesterday and is now just reiterating
everything that we told you. Because we tell you the truth.
We tell you what's really going on, which is why
you grace us with your time and why this project
of getting to hang out with you all works as
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well as it does, because we're all a team in
the truth. It is so obvious to anyone who is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And this is the thing too.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You have two guys here who have both lived in
d C, so we we know right this isn't some city.
I can quote statistics in Saint Louis to tell you
that it's dangerous. I can tell you stories, personal stories
about it. I remember I was woken up in the
middle of the night living at d C Clay and
what was considered a kind of a nice neighborhood. It
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wasn't Georgetown nice, but it was a nice enough neighborhoods
logan circle area for those of you who know DC.
And there was not a shooting. A shootout on my corner.
Two guys who are at one of the big hotel
chains I forget which one pulled guns on each other
and shot it out. Neither of them hit anyone. But
I remember being woken up in the middle of night
by this. You could say, oh, Buck, but that's anecdotal.
(06:08):
Everybody who lives in DC has these anecdotal stories no
matter where you live in DC. And that is a
different thing. It is a different thing, and they talked
about it. I did watch some Morning Joe this morning.
You know, Sorry, guys, that is a different thing they
talked about on Morning Joe. How if you live in Manhattan,
you might have a story about someone being crazy on
this In fact, if you take the subway, you definitely
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have stories that some being crazy on the subway. And
you might have some stories about vagrins and about some
unsettling things. You don't have a story about the summer
intern who just got stabbed to death last week. Everybody
who lives in DC knows this. And one of the
brilliant things from that, that's the reality there. One of
the brilliant things here once again from Trump and Clay
you were hitting it hard yesterday. It's so important for
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everyone to know this. Trump is forcing them to defend
the indefensible once again. Once again, DC is not a
safe city. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. Or
just is ignorant and it should be a lot better.
The city Council in DC is so insane that the
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Democrats had to go along in Congress and override legislation
that they were trying to pass. The DC City Council
tried to make carjacking a less serious statute, and the
United States Congress was like, you guys are nuts. You
can't do that in our nation's capital because we have
to drive in to go to our jobs and we
don't want to be carjacked. Democrats Clay once again caught
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completely flat footed on this. They look like buffoons. What
Trump's doing makes perfect sense. And if he shows results,
which by the way, I think he will, I think
there will be results from this. It'll just be another
w where Democrats look like they're the pro crime party
and the emotionally erratic liar party.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I also think this could be a pilot program. If
Trump surges National guardsmen and additional resources in Washington, d C.
And we see a market decline in violent crime, why
would that not be possible with state National Guard troops.
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You mentioned Saint Louis. I was looking. I think I
let me see if I looked and flagged it. But
the cities that actually have the largest awful crime rates,
I was very kind of interested in that, And some
of them you would not be surprised by. Memphis is awful,
and Kansas City, I was surprised by, is incredibly awful
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when it comes to violent crime. Why couldn't we apply
some of the same lessons that might be learned in Washington,
d C. To those cities and drive down violent crime everywhere?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Well, you absolutely could. And this is the critical point.
This is a choice the same way, and this is
really important, the same way that we saw that Biden's
open border was a choice. Trump has proven that letting
ten million people flood into the country under false asylum claims,
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entering illegally and then gaming our system and taking advantage
of the American people that did not have to happen.
Democrats chose to make that happen. They're also choosing for
crime to continue in all these cities at the level
that it is. I mean, you can go down the list,
play New Orleans, a beautiful city that I love way
too much crime. Saint louis so much crime that when
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I visited our affiliate there a few years ago and
I asked my Uber driver. I was like, hey, downtown
looks kind of nice. He's like, don't walk alone at
night here.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I remember.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I'm like, in the main downtown, you're the sports stadium.
He goes, oh, no, don't walk alone at night. I said, okay,
that's not a big and everyone that I saw who
lived in the suburbs there said the same thing. It's
too dangerous at night.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Citi's like Baltimore City. I haven't been to Detroit. I
have spent a lot of time in Baltimore. Baltimore is
far too dangerous, far too much crime. The things that
they keep saying they want to do, oh we need
more like you know, social workers, or we need more
welfare programs or whatever, that doesn't do anything. Fighting crime
involves enforcing the law and locking up criminals. DC had
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three thousand, give or take, has about three thousand felony
arrests a year. Now, it's only three hundred and sixty
five days in a year, but three thousand felony arrests
in a year. Clay probably fifteen hundred to two thousand
people in DC are really doing the bad stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, really doing the bad stuff out.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Of a city of six hundred thousand. If you're willing
to lock up even five hundred to one thousand more
of these serious felons, you know what happens.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Everybody's safer one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And we're speaking as grown men, who I think, in general,
are less concerned with crime. I don't know about you.
I really don't think about being a victim of crime
that often. But I was having this conversation with my
wife the other day.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I mean, and Franklin, you might have like a squirrel
run across your roof where.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Not where I live, I mean anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But I was having this conversation with my wife and
she said, you know, you and Buckman talking about crime.
Every woman when she walks into a when she walks
into a parking garage, is her head is on a swivel.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
She's holding her keys to be used as a weapon.
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The most dangerous places, the most dangerous places, especially for women,
parking garages, gas station, parking garages, gas station, that's the
worst place for women to be specifically, I told my
wife recently.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I think I said it on the show.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Hey Nashville, where I live, certain neighborhoods feel unsafe I said,
you're not getting gas anymore in Nashville. Like, come out
to Franklin where we are after dark and you can
fill up the car. Plan it that way. But I
think that every man thinks about this in the context
of wife, daughter, mom. Every woman thinks about it all
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the time. Right when crime is at a high level,
women are thinking about this all the time. And I
guarantee you, especially all the women that are in the
UH media and are conscious of the high rates of
violent crime that are going on, they actually agree. And
I think one of the things that this illuminates is
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Trump says what lots of people think. And the difference
between authentic politicians and inauthentic politicians is what I give
them credit here. Joe Scarborough just pointed to, which is
most people agree with what Trump's doing privately, but publicly,
because it's Trump, they're claiming they don't. And I think
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increasingly more and more of the American public is seeing
through the bs and saying, wait a minute, you said yesterday.
I think it's a good point. You could disagree on
tax rates or tariff rates. I mean, I just said
this on Fox News, but it's part disagreeing on keeping
people from getting murdered. Is a really tough argument to make, right, Hey,
I want less people to die violently is something.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That everybody in America should say. Hey, I'll sign on
to that.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Like I said, this is one of Clay's brave stands
on the show, solidly anti murder.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Did you see Homers?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Fox News actually shared from their twenty eight million Twitter
account or whatever, Clay Travis says he hates murder, and
I was like, finally I'm getting some credit here for
hating murder more than anybody else. That was actually their headline,
and so I appreciate the praise.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
There something else I want to point out, because we
were discussing the numbers, we should get into some of
the numbers, some more on this. And remember, if you're like, well,
it's our nation's capital, Clay, we don't want to just
take blue cities and let them rot, sir, whether it's
New York or DC. We will return to that conversation.
We want them to be the best they can be.
And people were saying, oh, well, look at the numbers,
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look at the crime it's going down. There's already an indicator,
a pretty strong one that they're cooking the books, which
I'll also tell you even without this story, I knew
this was going on because anyone who lives in DC
will tell you not safe, Bad things are happening, not safe,
and the atmosphere there, And this is why Joe Scarborough,
Joe Scarborough's golf playing friends from the chevy Chase country
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Club for those who know the DC area, I'm sure
he has a lot of them. A lot of Scarborough
watchers live in chevy Chase. They would be very miffed,
you know, Muffy and Buffy would be very upset if
Joe was saying that it was safe in downtown DC,
because they don't feel safe when they go to Pilate's
class in downtown. They know that bad things happen there.
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You know, this is a great time to talk to
you about saber. We're talking about self defense, talking about
protecting yourself and your family. We're just discussing it if
you're a woman and or man, But if you're somebody
who's going to be at a gas station at night,
or you're going to be going in and out of
parking garages, or just in your own home. Remember home
invasions can happen anywhere burglary. Some of these very sophisticated
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Welcome back into Clay and Box. So the Texas redistricting
fight continuing to play out Democrats blood to day. We've
got Attorney General for the state of Texas, Attorney General Paxton,
will be with us in just a couple of minutes
to give us the latest update on that. He's also
got some breaking news that has hit today on that
that we'll be discussing with all of you. But here
(16:35):
is Governor Greg Abbott on where he stands on the
redistricting fight in his state.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Play it what these Democrats have done. They have turned
their back on the people of the state of Texas.
For one, it is gutless for Democrats to cut and run.
That's anti Texans. Ever since the time of the Alamo,
Texans have stood and fought their ground. Here a Democrats
are are fleeing like a bunch of chickens. They can
address both the redistricting map as well as all these
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other issues that are so important to.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Their fellow Texas.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Know this, and that is average Texans who are watching
this show. They have to show up to work. If
they don't show up to work, they could get fired.
These Democrats think they are above that. These Democrats think, well,
they can take the day off, they can take the
month off, they can jet set across the country ignoring
their duty. By the Constitution, they are required to meet
and consider and act on every bill that becomes before them.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Look, I think it's a no brainer, and I want
to hear from the Attorney General of Texas what the
latest is. How long are these Texans going to stay
outside of the state. That's super weird. Just think about
your own life, how much if you have families, could
you just vanish like they are vanishing. We'll ask them
all the latest details about that.
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We'll talk to the Attorney General about it, and maybe
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show appreciate everybody
hanging out with us. See as the Attorney General of Texas,
he is also running for the Republican nomination in the Senate.
He is Ken Paxton with us on. Now, okay, so
let's dive into the absolute latest here. The Democrats, to
my knowledge, remain outside of state borders. What should we
(19:19):
expect to happen going forward, now, mister Attorney General.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Well, I don't know if this is a you know,
uncharted territory for all of us. I don't know exactly
what to expect, but we are We've filed actions in
both Illinois and California. You know, obviously they can move around,
but my understanding is many of THEMRT. In Illinois, we've
filed actions in that state asking the court there under
the full faith and credit provision of the US Constitution,
(19:47):
to honor our quorum warrants that were issued by the
Speaker of the House in Texas. So we'll see how
that goes. We're we're waiting on action there. We also
have our filings with you with the Tech Supreme Court
to try to remove thirteen different legislators for not for
being openly defiant of showing up for a session to
(20:11):
deal with a lot of issues, not just registioning. And
that is on a sort of a two week time
frame with briefs due by the other side, then a
reply breef and then their reply REAF that's going to
be going over the next couple of weeks. And then
of course we have our actions that relate to fellow or'
(20:32):
rourke and his pack and trying to hold him in
contempt for violating a temporary restraining order that was issued
by a court in Terrent County recently.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
So, mister Attorney General, if I could ask, could you
just reverse the look because for some of some of
our listeners, what is different about this time? This has
happened before, and there are people are saying, oh, this
is a game that has been played in the past.
What does the law say about like where are democrats
who have fled the state in violation of law? And
(21:05):
how is this time If this time is different from
the past, how is it different from when they've tried
this before?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
So you know they tried it in two thousand and three.
I wasand Texas House obviously I was not in the
Training General's office in twenty twenty one. It didn't last
very long. This one, we have no idea how long
it's going to last. So, you know, they're all a
little different. I think as we've had more experience, you know,
my office has got more and more creative trying to
deal with these issues. And so these these ideas that
(21:33):
we're proposing now are just ideas that we've come up
to be creative there. And as I said, they're new.
There's there's no experience really in trying what we're doing.
And the last two times we just outweighted them and
the governor. The governors kept calling Governor Perry governor have
kept calling them back, and eventually we got it. We
(21:54):
got it done. So you know, I guess we're just
a little more action oriented and a little more creative
this time, trying to push the envelope to get them
back here sooner so we can get this done.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
What would you say?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And I'm going to get my popcorn, because I bet
the answer is going to be good to people like JB. Pritzker,
Governor of Illinois, to Kathy Hochel, Governor of New York,
to Gavin Newsom, governor of California, who say Texas is
effectively destroying democracy by redistricting, I would.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Say they're hypotrips. I mean, their own states are so jerrymander.
I mean, look at our maps versus their maps. It's
it's ridiculous to look at Illinois. Massachusetts, you know, has
zero Republican representative representation in the state that has thirty
seven percent Republican. Illinois forty has only three representatis that
(22:47):
are Republicans. So, I mean, I don't know how they
say it with a straight face, but they do. Apparently
they're really willing to just be dishonest because they know
they've done it. They've done it for decades, and they're
just a pall that you guys can't do what we've done,
and and and and but yet here we are. You
guys in Texas are destroying democracy what we did when
(23:10):
we gerrymandered our state to almost you know, many of
these states have no Republican representation. That is not destroying
democracy because we're democrats.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And so in.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Terms of the law, you're the attorney general for the
state of Texas, they are Are they in clear violation?
Are they arguing that what they're doing is somehow not
a violation of Texas statute because the way it's no surprise,
the way it talked about in the media. They pretend
like there's a lot of gray area and this is
done before. And you know, what does the law say
(23:41):
about their obligation to actually show up for a quorum.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Well, they're obligated under house rules there there they represent
the people of of their area, but they're under they're
under obligation of their own rules that they've passed to
show up to vote. And when they don't do that,
they can be held in you know, basically in contempt
by the bill and by their own body. So they
(24:08):
say that their own body voted on rules that they
were part of, it says exactly the opposite. So they're
not being honest. They're being very disingenuous, and of course,
as you're not surprised, the mainstream media plays along.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You're also in the midst of running as a Republican
candidate in the Senate race that will happen next year.
You're in the in the midst of a lot of
different things going on. How would you assess that that
race and do you think President Trump is likely to
weigh in in one form or fashion.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
So I mean, I did my polling before I got in,
but I used Cruises Polster. I used another polster with it.
Did Trump's polling? I did, and I did three polls.
All of them had me up by at least twenty
five points. I don't think that it's changed much. You know,
you can have different polsters looking at different things. But
it was very consistent. And it's based on John Cornyn's
(25:06):
past twenty three years as a US Center and you
can go back furtherly. He's been in office, so I
was in college and I'm sixty two. He has not
represented Texas wall. He's he's been opposed to President Trump
being president both times, insinuated that he was guilty of crimes.
And now suddenly you any a conversion experience on April
Lake when I got on the race, and now he
loves Trump after hating him for the entire time he's
(25:28):
been in office. He's been opposed to building a wall
on the border, which most my constituents were disgusted by,
and the course President Trump had just the opposite view,
and he fought with Joe Biden to restrict Second Amendment rights,
which Texans obviously do not want Second Amendment rights restricted.
But he don Cornyn fought with Biden to make that happen.
(25:51):
So if you look at his record, he has not
represented Texas well. There's not a distinguishing feature other than
he tells us now that he's with all of the time.
It's just not true, it's dishonest.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
You know, we're putting a lot of time and attention,
mister Attorney General on what's going on in DC now
with Trump trying to bring the crime numbers down and
federalizing the Metro Police for a period of time as
he can under the Home Rule Act of nineteen seventy
three for the District of Columbia. But we've also raised
how this could set a precedent, especially if there are
(26:27):
points on the board, so to speak, if Trump shows
success here for other law enforcement efforts that would use
federal partners in conjunction with local law enforcement. And I'm
wondering if this is something that you're already considering or
are you in the are you in conversation with the
Trump White House about because you know, Houston, I have
a lot of friends in Houston, a lovely place, but
(26:50):
there's some crime there, there's some crime problems, the same
thing I believe in Dallas in some areas. So I'm
wondering if this is something that you think could be
a template in your state or just in general across
the country.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
No, I think in general it's certainly something given to
These cities are very liberal. They're district attorneys funded by
so US. We have the same problem in you know,
Travis County, Austin, and other major cities in our state,
but they won't prosecute, and they defund the police and
make it very difficult for crime to be prosecuted. So
(27:26):
I don't know, since in my case, the legislature doesn't
give authority to the attorney general to prosecute crimes, leaves
it up to the DA's I think any help we
can get from the federal government shut down crime and
stop the increase that we have in our cities that
are run by Democrats on for.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Ultimately, do you expect I know the FBI has gotten involved,
do you expect for there to be any arrest outside
of state of any of these Texas lawmakers?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
What is the rubber meets the road moment? At some
point the expectation, I think is that they can't live
outside of the state forever and they'll have to return.
But while they're out of state, do you expect any
arrests or any seizures to occur.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I don't expect them in the FBI would have to
have a federal crime. I don't see them arresting. This
is not a federal crime. I mean, love it if
they could get them back somehow. For us, the actions
that we're taking in Illinois, I think are our best
shot is getting these states, these courts to recognize our
laws and help us get them back. Otherwise we're going
(28:35):
to be in the same situation we've been in the past.
We just they don't want If they don't want to
live in Chicago the rest of their lives and go
through the winter, they're going to have to come back
to have jobs, families, And ultimately that has been successful
both times. It just took longer, and you know, we
spend a lot of money and waste a lot of time,
but ultimately we got our registring maps pasted in the
past both times. So we're not going to give up.
(28:57):
We're just trying to expect the process because it's ridiculous
that this that's what we have to go through.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
All right, biggest question right now for you.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The last time I think, Buck and I saw you
in person was actually at a Texas Alabama football game
down in Austin. Within about three weeks, basically one v.
Two is going to be taking place. The Texas Longhorns
have opened as the number one team in the country.
They're going on the road in Columbus, Ohio against the
defending national champion Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Buck, Guys, what happens?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I'm optimistic that Texas will pull it out. They've done
it before. The last time I went to a Texas
Ohio State game on the road was when Texas won
the national championship and they beat Ohio State at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That was Ben's young, right, If I remember correctly, I
was there.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
I loved it, and no one expected us to win
that game. But I am predicting we're gonna have a repeat.
I think it was two thousand and five of the
Ohio State opening game against Texas where Texas pulled out
a win.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I remember that game like it was yesterday, you know, Buck.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That led into what I think is the greatest college
football game of my life into the year Rose Bowl
Texas USC the most watched college football game of the
twenty first century. That I imagine, mister Attorney General, you
sometimes think about fondly still to this day.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
I do.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I was there.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
I literally when the game was over, I thought, this
is the greatest college game I've ever seen. I almost thought,
how can I go to another college game after witnessing
this masterpiece really by both teams. It was just it
was just amazing. And I still get kind of chilled
talking about it because it was so remarkable. It's such
a remarkable game.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, look keep us updated on how this is going on.
You know, you can come on any time, and we
appreciate all the work y'all are doing down there.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Hey, I appreciate you guys. Have a gret day. We're
going to win this.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
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Speaker 1 (33:04):
I was just making fun. Buck is like, what would
you even call that regripping? Regripping?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yes, yes, called regripping, regripping My racket right here, I
play with a Wilson. I'm playing some tennis this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So the knee is back in good shape, You're recovered, Like,
no injury issues at this point.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, it turns out if you drop forty pounds, your
joints are very thankful. This is another thing that I
have found out. Yeah, my knee all of a sudden
feels great. And it's like, I gotta give you credit,
by the way, because you got me on this. And
I'm like, I don't know why I haven't been doing
this a long time. I now just walk and take
phone calls in my neighborhood like a crazy person. I
think this should be if you can walk in your neighborhood, right,
(33:45):
if you don't have to be on an interstate or
a super busy road, but if you can have a
conversation while walking on your phone and walk, you know, two, three,
four miles just while you're working, when otherwise you'd be
sitting at your death score what. I think it is
something that should be standard everywhere. And I see a
lot of people in my neighborhood doing it. But you
(34:07):
talked about doing it more frequently, and now I've been
doing it for the past few weeks.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm walking way more.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm out and about and I can have the same
conversation that I would otherwise be having sitting in a chair.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, I remember when I went up and did some
training with Dj Shipley, who's a former Steel Team six
operator and runs GBRS group, which is just has really
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You can go train with him just like I did.
He's a huge proponent. I mean you know, he's like,
you know, the ultimate warrior honestly. Yeah, And he's a
(34:39):
huge proponent of walks. Walks for recovery, walk with your
spouse to just connect, like walk walk, walk, really critical stuff.
So I'm glad you're doing that, man, I didn't know it.
Also for weight loss, I didn't know this. I used
to think that I would run. For weight loss, I
would do running. And the problem with running, for one,
it's hard on your joints, on your knees as you
get older, that is true, and also it often has
(35:02):
a stimulating effect on your appetite. So I would go
for a big walk and then be like, oh, like
now I need to have like a Giants user salad
with like extra chicken because I went for a run.
Whereas walking, you don't have the attendant hunger spike. So yeah, dude,
walking is a cheat code in so many ways. For
so go walk, like go walking, I carry and I
try to do it every day together, we go walk.
(35:25):
I think it's incredibly smart and also incredibly healthy. Laura's
gotten into it, and anyway, it's funny because everything cycles.
Because I remember when my mom was you know, when
I was a kid, my mom was a walker. It
was actually very popular, maybe more so than almost jogging.
And then jogging took over and everybody started jogging. But
to your point, first of all, I hate running, but
(35:46):
when I ran, I was always so hungry. Because you do,
I think end up consuming way more calories because you are,
especially if you do long runs.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You got to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So the walking thing is like a great kind of
life hack, especially if you're someone who has to be
on the phone for calls a decent amount. Get out
and move like when you're doing them.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
This is why I've become particularly militant about zoom calls
unless someone really needs to see my face. You have
my full attention if I'm walking and I have my
headphones in. So yeah, no, I'm telling you for all
of you, if you can get into it. And but
if you live in a neighborhood but there's not really
great walking or whatever, get yourself a cheap treadmill and
just walk and take your calls, and walk and call
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family members.
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It is a it is. It is a cheap coat.
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So I'm glad you're enjoying that. We'll get to some calls.
By the way, sorry, we'll get some calls, and we'll
get some talkbacks and all that good stuff coming up here.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Just a second.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
We are racked and stacked and yes, and I'm going
to continue to regrip and perhaps even restring my rackets.
So more fun stories about tennis coming up too. We'll
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