August 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the intersection of politics, crime, and culture, offering sharp analysis and engaging commentary on today’s most pressing issues. The hour kicks off with a look at the U.S. economy, highlighting that inflation remains steady at 2.7%, and positioning President Trump’s tariff policies as economically prescient. The hosts preview the upcoming Trump-Putin summit in Alaska, aimed at negotiating a ceasefire in the Russia-Ukraine war, emphasizing the humanitarian and geopolitical stakes.
The conversation shifts to crime in Washington, D.C., with a focus on violent crime statistics, police data manipulation, and the historical context of D.C. as the murder capital of the U.S. in the 1990s. The hosts discuss the alleged falsification of crime data by a D.C. police commander and explore how medical advancements have reduced murder rates by saving lives that would have previously been lost to violence.
Listeners are taken through a comparative analysis of U.S. cities vs. European cities like London and Paris, noting that D.C.’s murder rate is 28 times higher than those cities. The show underscores how violent crime is concentrated in specific neighborhoods, advocating for targeted police deployment and revisiting the effectiveness of policies like stop-and-frisk in New York City.
The hour also features a lively debate on policing and public safety, including a viral exchange between Joe Scarborough and Simone Sanders on whether more police make streets safer. Callers weigh in with passionate views, including support for National Guard deployment in high-crime areas and critiques of Democratic leadership in urban centers.
Adding levity, the hosts share personal dating anecdotes, including a humorous story about a failed e-scooter date and a debate over the social faux pas of using gift certificates on first dates. The segment blends cultural commentary with relatable humor, resonating with both longtime listeners and new audiences.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and we've got
some interesting stories to update you with, including well, did
we say inflation helps steady at two point seven percent?
Just let you know, inflation holding steady. Trump on the
tariffs looking very prescient, very wise so far.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I know there are people that are still.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Clinging to the idea that, oh no, just wait any
day now the tariffs are going to tank the economy.
Wouldn't that happen at least a little bit, a little.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Bit already if I was gonna see the case.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But we've got also the Trump sit down, the putin
Trump Alaska summit on Friday, where he's going to try
to get a negotiated ceasefire and a pathway to an
end of the Russia Ukraine War, which Clay, I have
to say, the casualty figures that you hear about this,
including when we were up in DC and visited the
(00:56):
White House and talking to some of the national security
folks in that White House, the casualty figures are staggering.
And this is a war that because we're not involved
directly in combat, it is it feels obviously a lot
further away. Our people are not getting shot, Our people
are not getting killed, but there are people getting shot
and killed in huge numbers. And Trump, on a humanitarian
(01:19):
level and on a what's good for the world and
good for business level, wants.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
This thing to end. So we'll see if he's able
to pull that off.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It would be a remarkable situation, Clay, if Trump is
able to get some kind of a deal from Putin,
even the beginnings of a deal from Putin and Zelenski,
and then you're gonna have the media say he gave
he pushed Zelenski too much, or he gave you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's never good enough.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Whatever Trump does, it's never good enough to just be
prepared for that, and they'll never give him a Nobel
Peace Prize no matter.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
What he does.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It does not matter. Trump could end war for all
time and they would still not give him a Nobel
Peace Prize. But we're going to continue to look at
that and give you a preview of whereld that's going on.
But something I thought was very interesting, Clay, the story
that's getting a lot of attention and circulating now on
the DC crime issue. Remember we have a mantra here
on the show we talk about it for elections, but
(02:11):
it's true in general. What really matters to us day
to day economy, border crime, economy, border crime. It's kind
of the triad, the big three of governance and critical issues,
and they obviously play into each other. And there are
areas where the government has an outsized role, perhaps too big,
(02:32):
in the economy. But that's a whole other conversation. And
here we are now looking at efforts to make things
better and safer in DC. You would think that public
safety and reducing crime is a bipartisan, a truly bipartisan issue.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, Clay, I look this up.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It the DC was, in fact, it's a little trivia
for you, the per capita murder capital of the United States,
for at least a year or two in the early nineties,
the worst place for murder in America.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Which is saying something which led to one of the
most unbelievable it's real quotes from a mayor political figure.
He's talking with, the esteemed Marion Barry. The esteemed Marion
Barry said, DC doesn't have a crime rate problem except
for the murders I mean, which is an all timer.
(03:30):
And for people out there who I get it, and
the books are being cooked on crime in many different
cities when it comes to carjacking or robberies, or the
fact that a lot of times, some of you out
there in cities know this to be true. Something gets
stolen and it takes so long for the police to
(03:50):
come that you're like, screw it, this is not even
worth my window got broken. I'm just a lot of
people don't report relatively minor crime because they know it's
more it's gonna take longer of their time than to
deal with it murder.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Which is why when someone stole my East scooter. That's right,
my cool East scooter zoom zoom all over New York
City and then some ruffian, some scoundrel stole my East
scooter right off the streets, it was very sad. You
didn't even report that, right, I did not. I did
not because it costs like two hundred and fifty bucks.
(04:26):
And to go to the police, say, what are they
gonna do? They're gonna have their I mean like legitimately.
Oh yeah, we got our best guys on that one.
We got detectives working around the clock looking for your
East scooter. First of all, I thought they were looking
at me like you you you were all on an
eas scooter, buddy. Really Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Surprised that he dated you when you were single, when
you were riding around on in the East scooter with
a helmet on. Wow, harsh, harsh, way harsh play. But
our East wasn't married there in Miami, Uh people do?
People do ride them here pretty pretty regularly. Yeah, I'd
say it's it's They got really popular in Nashville for
a while and then it was like a whole it
(05:00):
was like they had some sort of overproduction and now
nobody's on them. Have you known there were these companies
of them?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, there were these companies that got venture capital funding,
a number of them, and they just they just sort
of flooded the zone with these electric scooters in a
whole bunch of cities.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Nashville was one of them. DC was one of the
more joint abandoned them in huge piles.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It was actually then it became it became an eyesore
and they they were getting broken, they were getting stolen.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You know, you need a really high trust society for
those things to work the way they're supposed to, meaning
that everyone puts them where they're supposed to be at
the end, and people don't break them, and people don't
steal them, and they don't just leave. So it was
a total mess. The other thing is I know plenty
of people who have like absolutely wiped out.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
On those things. It's not hard. It's not hard to do.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The thing that people don't realize on those things is
that if you if you go to an onni, if
you're going at speed and you go to like an
uneven ledge, yeah, there's no it's not like car where
you go over the speed bump, you will come to
a screeching halt and go flying over those handlebars. I
how people who have lost their teeth broken their elbow anyway,
So that's what happened. So, yeah, someone stole my my
(06:11):
East scooter and I'm still sad about it. Now, let's
talk about the crime statistics that should be reported, and
that is the serious stuff in DC and Clay. It
turns out, for those of us who were skeptical of
the claim that DC has the lowest violent crime rate
it has had in thirty years, for someone noticed not murders.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
We always talked about this. Murders are hard to hide,
No matter what, unless you're in like the middle of
a cartel war and warez. Murders tend to get you know,
the tend to get the attention of beating people the
crocodiles in Costa Rica, right, Like in general, it's hard
to hide dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's it's something that tends to get everyone's attention. And
the murder rate in DC is down a lot from
the nineties, but it went up dramatically, especially because of
BLM twenty three. How to peak, But Clay, here's a
story a DC police commander. This is just from a
This is recent DC police commander under investigation for allegedly
(07:11):
changing crime stats in his district. Now you might say,
oh wait, why would he do that, because they must
be so honest with their crime stats.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The Metro Police Department confirmed that an officer's placed on
paid administrative leave in mid May. But it happened, this
is the key. It happened one week after that officer
filed an EEO complaint on an assistant chief and the
police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data.
(07:43):
This guy came out and was part of Hey, they're
cooking the books. So the police department puts him on
leave for cooking the books, which he says he is
being made to do by his chain of command.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That is highly suspicious. A lot of smoke, and I'm
telling you there's fire there too. Well, you know this,
and anybody who's ever worked in business knows this. You
get targets, and sometimes the data can allow you to
manipulate the targets in ways that make it look like
you're doing better than you actually are because of the
(08:19):
way the data comes in. And so it doesn't surprise me.
This is why, to me, you have to go to murder.
I understand the argument of, hey, there are a lot
of other serious crimes, but I would bet that it
is almost unprecedented for a city to have a low
murder rate and a high violent crime rate in other facets,
(08:40):
right or vice versa. To be true, a high murder
rate and a low violent crime rate in conjunction, none
of that would overlap. Right, A high murder rate is
typically going to also mean a high rate of sexual assault,
a high rate of robbery, a high rate of carjacking,
all of those things running concert. And so you know,
(09:00):
I think overall this is important here's the other thing,
buck that almost nobody talks about. You know, our medical
care has become so good that a lot of people
that in past years would have died of and been
murder victims now survive. So somewhat the rate of murder
(09:21):
over the last twenty five years, it should be noted
down precipitously because we're far better at saving life because
of healthcare, and so I think sometimes you have to
look at number of people that are being shot and
going into hospitals. This is also true, you know, for
combat for the Ukraine Russia war, for instance, and certainly
(09:44):
for other of our soldiers out there. You guys know
this to be true. We are able to save far
more life than we ever have before. So the data
doesn't always tell the same story. Because if you got
shot in nineteen sixty eight odds where you probably are
going to die, we're saving a lot more lives now
compared to then, if that makes sense. So again we'll
(10:06):
get what the actual data shows, and that story is
violent crime is far too often a major issue in
almost every city in America. I think they did it
after the fact assessment of fatalities on our side, Americans
lost in the Vietnam War, and if there was just
a rudimentary training in uh suck what's called the sucking
(10:28):
chest wound, it would have a lot more people would
have survived. So yeah, no, it's it's it's true, these
these numbers. When you can do analysis of them, uh
with with murders, though, what you see is if the
murder rate is high, other crime is high too. This
is the Then there's there's a little bit of a
difference here in San Francisco, for example, and we could
(10:50):
get into why this is. But in San Francisco you
have very high property crime and sort of public disorder crimes,
but a pretty low violent crime rate. But you don't
what you don't have is a very high violence. To
the Marian Verry point, you don't have a very high
violent crime rate and very high murder rate and a
well ordered society otherwise, right that that does not you
(11:13):
can have a lot of property crime and not a
lot of murders. You will not have you know, I
mean even you know, you go to even some.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
European countries and there's a lot of pickpockets and a
lot of theft, but like you know, you're not gonna
get stabbed in an alleyway.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I mean, we talked about this with London and Paris
have one twenty eighth the murder rate of Washington d C.
Let me repeat that, London and Paris one twenty eighth
the murder rate of Washington DC. That's why if you're
ever talking to someone who's British or French and they
(11:48):
are coming to the United States or frankly Australian now
even sometimes Canadian, they look at the data and they think, oh,
my goodness, the United States is incredibly dangerous, and it is.
If you live in London and you're coming over to
New York City, New York City is far safer, and
then you're going to get on a train and come
down to DC, as many Brits do, that's twenty eight
(12:10):
times is likely you would be murdered in Washington d C.
As London, they do have a lot easy to think about.
They have a lot of knife crime and a lot
of home invasions with knives, though in the UK it's
actually getting much worse there than it has been in
a long time. But yes, they don't have the murders
that this is.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Murders are overwhelmingly in this country. I mean, if you
look at the real hub of where this is happening,
it's off. It's generally gang related, inner city shootings. I mean,
that's what really drives This is what drives it in Chicago,
this is what drives it in Saint Louis this is
you go New Orleans, all the places that have Birmingham
(12:48):
unfortunately has a really high crime rate.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Louisville, So Louisville where you know. I mean, and again
to your point, because you did this, the cops know
where the crimes are going to happen. Oh yeah, it's
not as if you need when they talk about DC,
you and I just were up there. We stayed in Georgetown.
I'm sure they can use a few extra cops in Georgetown.
It's pretty safe, right. My uncle was a cop in Savannah,
(13:13):
Georgia in the nineties. He actually moved on to the
LAPD and did his career out there. But he was
for like I think, maybe I don't know, six or
seven years he was in Savannah, PDE. For those of
you who are Savannah listeners. At one of his stories,
he tells he says that he was at a murder,
a scene of a murder, and there was a crowd
that had formed and he just sort of looked around.
He said, you don't anybody see anything? And a guy
(13:34):
put up his hands. He said, I didn't kill anybody.
Turned out turned out that guy went away. That guy
went away. So you know, you never know what you're
gonna find out. But if you flood the zone, so
to speak, there's five neighborhoods in every city that actually
need to have the zone flooded, and you could cut
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crime by fifty percent. I mean, that's just the reality.
So when we're talking about police needing to deployed or
National Guard or whatever else, it's really just a few
neighborhoods in most cities where the vast majority of violent
crime happens. So it's it's not as if you need
to flood you know, this is what happens. I mean,
you look at New York.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
They had stop, stop, question and frisk, which they now
abbreviated stop in frisk, but stop questioning frisk. And when
that was going on the city was at its all
time high of safety, and people said, oh, but we
don't need to keep doing that. We don't need to
keep doing that, And yeah, for a few years.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
When they got rid of it, it seemed like things
were okay, and then it turned and then it got worse,
and then all of a sudden, you had a problem.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Buck. I
don't know if you've heard this, but your boy, you
may have seen it, since you're the number one Morning
Joe fan in America. Joe Scarborough was talking to Simone
Sanders on Morning Joe this morning, and he said, you
don't think more police make streets safer? And more police
(16:19):
make streets safer?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
No, Joe, I'm a black woman in America. I do
not always think that more police next streets safer. When
you walk down the streets of Georgetown, you don't see
a police officer on every corner, but you don't feel unsafe.
So what is it about talking about places.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Like Southeast DC? Right ward eight?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
If you will that people say, well, we need more
officers to.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Make us safe.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I think we have to rethink what safety means in America.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Is she a moron?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Is she a more?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Truly, Why do you have more cops in southeast because
there's more crimes there. Why don't we have as many
cops in the middle of like rural Nebraska as we
do in downtown Baltimore because there's more crimes and people there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I don't think I've ever been anywhere where I have
seen cops and thought I wish there were fewer cops
here in my entire life. I mean, I think partly
this is cultural that Simone Sanders is not really speaking
for herself, because I've at she lives behind the gated
community with tons of severity, in a very nice place
with very low crime. But I have never been anywhere
(17:31):
in America where I have thought, you know what, I
wish there were fewer cops at this event. I never
thought that in my entire life. Have any of you
wanted there to be fewer cops where you were? I've
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talkbacks here from all of you. Thank you so much,
some of you coming to my defense on the East
scooter thing. Very kind of you.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You know, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Efficient, Clay, I'm sorry some of us want to keep
our carbon footprint small.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
There is a zero percent chance if I were single
that I would have scooted anywhere. I mean I would
have I would have been late for every meeting just
because I would have been afraid that would come by
and see me on the scooter and never date me again.
This is gonna sound like I'm making it up, but
I'm not making it up. But I feel like we're
all family here, so I will tell you this. Okay,
(19:27):
during COVID, a couple of years.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Before I met my wife, when I was a single guy,
I was you know, I was out, you know, trying
to meet the trying to meet the love of my life,
my beloved Carrie, and I hadn't met her yet, and
it was a couple of years before, and I had
the scooter because you know, during COVID, that was one
It was great to have the scooter because you could
fly all over New York not fly, but you you
could move really fast all over the year.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Is there very few people out and about because that time,
so I could get all over but you know, restaurants
will be open sometimes. And I remember I was like,
you know what I was like, for this, this is
true story. I was like, for this, it was a
second date to me. It wasn't her first date.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I was like, but for this date, you know what,
I'm just gonna I'm gonna show up with my scooter
because it's convenient, and like, I'll give her. I'll give
her a ride home on my little East scooter. And
I didn't really think this through. You know, she was
a she's a petit lady, she wasn't big. I didn't
really think this through though. Those things are not meant
for two people. So when she got on the back
(20:22):
of it and we tried to go, I'm not kidding.
We were going zero point five miles an hour. It
was moving walking, but oh walking is way faster.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We were moving, but it was moving at the speed
of like a toddler's Tanka truck, you know what I mean,
when it kind of goes on the driveway and uh,
we had a we had a sustained laugh at my expense.
And uh, I don't think there was a third date.
We didn't there, you go, I wouldn't have kept dating you.
I mean I would have been like, this guy's riding
a scooter. He won't even spend he won't even splurge
(20:54):
for an uber ride back home. It's probably cold the winds.
I do wish there was there was video my face though,
when like, cause you know, I hit the throttle and
I didn't know, and and it kind of like lurched
for and then it was just at you know, at
turtle speed. I mean, it was this old ladies with
walkers were telling me to get out of the way,
slow poke. It was really not good. I remember, this
(21:17):
is kind of funny date story, not for me. I've
been married for twenty like five years or whatever. The
heck it is twenty two years, next year, next month,
this month, anyway, a long time, twenty one years. And
but I remember a girl being like, yeah, I went
on a date. She's like, I'm a little We used
to do I'd do anonymous mail bags at OutKick and
(21:38):
I would answer a lot of questions. Girl was like, yeah,
I went on a first date. It's like, I just
I don't really feel like he was into me. And
I was like, you know in the email, and she
was like and as evidence of that, she said, he
paid with a gift certificate, and I was like, I
was like, I'm sorry, ladies, if you go out to
dinner with a guy on the very first date and
(22:00):
he pays with a gift certificate, then he is really
not that into you because he's not even willing to
pull out the actual credit card. And it's even funnier
if it's like, can you just take the twenty you know,
it's like a twenty five dollars gift certificate, So you know,
I'm just telling you, I don't believe. Maybe there's somebody listening.
I don't believe there's a single marriage that has ever
(22:21):
resulted from a first date or a man paid for
the dinner with a gift certificate, because I think women
are like like, look, i mean, I'm not saying that
I expected the absolute sun of movement stars on the
first date, but you took me to Applebee's or Outback
and you whipped out like the Outback gift certificate for
(22:44):
the bluemin onion. I'm just not saying that that's the
guy that you want to spend the rest of your
life with. Maybe there's somebody out there, if there is
a single person listening who went out on a first
date and the guy she's with paid with a gift certificate,
gift card, and then maybe I'm wrong. I don't think
there's a single relationship that has ever come from a
(23:05):
first date gift certificate. So uh, that is my advice
to men out there that if you're dating a girl,
or if you're the girl, if he's paying for you
with a gift certificate, he's not that into you. He
wasn't even willing to actually use real cash. He's using
what his mom gave him for Christmas to take you. However,
Bloomin Onions still preferable to splitting the check on the
(23:29):
first date. I will say, so it's it's a little,
it's you know, this is in this is purgatory, This
is like in between, right. I mean, it's not great,
but not terrible. Guys, you gotta you gotta pick up the.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Even if you don't like her, even if she's a leg,
even if she's a Bernie Sanders voting purple haired You
didn't know this is what you were getting into date.
You pay on the first date. Guys, don't don't, don't
make it. We have young we have young single men
listeners here, twenties, thirties, forties, guys were single out there.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You pay on the first date. Boys, I agree, it's
just the way it is. There's no offens or. But
all right, Norman in NYC wants the way in. What's
going on? Norman.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
I'm still laughing about the credit card, the gret gift card.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Gift card. You can't do it, Norman, you can't do it.
You've probably been married for thirty years. But I'm trying
to help the young man out there. Don't screw this up.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
My god, God was given to him by his mother.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh my god, it's like you got a Christmas gift
card for the outback steakhouse. You're not even willing to
take and pay the girls dinner for yourself. Your mom
and dad are paying for it. Just can't do it.
Oh my god, Oh my god, you got Norman. You
have to do You have to come back to Norman.
Norman's Norman's uh, he's tickled over there.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
Let me say this, I think first and foremost Washington,
d C should be the safest community on the planet,
and foremost, that is where the President of the United States,
dignitaries come from all over the world. There is no excuses,
no excuses for one thing to be going wrong in Washington,
d C. The second thing is agree with the presidents
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and in the National Guard there. And I think that
it's important that the mayor takes the pride off the
shoulder and say I'm getting additional help in the mountain
in Washington, DC to be able to combat the problems
that we face. I think that what I would do
is pair up one law enforcement officers from the district
with one National guardsman to give it more power, to
(25:24):
give people more comfortability. The word national Guard is scaring people.
It's additional law enforcement. New York City talks about the
fact that we need more police. Well, huh, take the
four thousand or five thousand National guardsmen that want to
be deployed. Give them the opportunity to work alongside.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Can I Can I point out something as well, Norman,
All the people that don't totally agree with your sentiments here,
all the people that are freaking out about Trump deploying
National Guard to help with law enforcement. They were fine
with National Guard holding empty six teams at airports during
COVID as if that had anything to do with anything.
I mean, they just had people standing there with guns
(26:03):
making you fill out contact tracing forms. What was the
National Guard gonna do? Hand me some extra cleanexes. It
was absurd, and they were all fine with that. I
just want to point out no purpose for them whatsoever
other than a show of force, because we're all supposed
to obey and bend the need of fauci and vile third.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Oh, absolutely, and let me see this. Tell a mother
that lost her child, it's the gun violence that she
doesn't want more police in the community. Hey man, a
father that doesn't have one. Come on, man, get with poltish.
Let's do what we gotta do. Yes, we're in untrodded
territories in some area. But the ship is turning. Let's
get on board, turn the ship and going in a
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different direction. Because all of this other stuff from the
Democrats have not been working. It's just been kicking the
can down the road.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That's great call, Norman. I agree with him. And you
mentioned this yesterday, Buck, and we'll play a cut for you.
Maybe in a little bit. We're gonna take a couple
more calls. But I think Muriel Bowser, the mayor of DC,
actually agree he's with Trump, but politically is not able
to say that. Listen to her answers and how she's
trying to thread that fine line. I think she welcomes
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the support.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
She is not.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I if this were happening in Chicago, Mayor Johnson would
be screaming about Nazism and racism and Trump as like
the head of the KKK. I mean, it would be
complete meltdown. Okay, complete meltdown. That's not what you're getting
from Mayor Bowser.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
She was pretty you know.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I mean she's saying I don't think we needed to
trying to defend her record a little. Maybe we should
get to some of those get some of those clips.
She's not She's not coming out swinging hard at Trump
on these things because I think she wants to leave
open the possibility of taking credit for it, which if
it gets better, she'll take a victory lap. And you
know what, if she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Stand in the way, fine, you know, I mean, as
long as it's getting better there because we all know
that people will understand that Trump was the instigator of
these improvements. But yeah, I think it's it's it's very
interesting to see how that dynamic plays out. We've also
got here.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Florida's next. Thank you Dave in Florida.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Yes, hey, listen, buck. When when the when the bike
went dead?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Who pushed?
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Who taking it back?
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
What happened when the scooter was failing? What did you do?
Did you, like just kick her to the curb and
ride home. I I, I will tell you, I called
an uber for her to take her home, and then
I kind of sadly, I didn't really want to ride
the ride the scooter anymore. I kind of walked it home.
You know when you skin your knee as a kid
on your bike and you were like unsure of it,
you know, and you're like, I don't know, like I
(28:37):
was skinned my knee. That's kind of how I felt
about my e scooter. It was like I was defeated
and I just walked alongside it in sorrow alone.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Yeah, took your soccer ball and went home. So you know,
the solutions today for DC and the mayor's solution is
as ridiculous as it was when Marion Barry was in
office and the early nineties, it was the murder capital
of the world, I think a couple of years consecutive.
And that solution was to change the name of the
basketball team from the Washington Bullets because of that Bullets
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to the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That was their solution, I remember.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
And it's just completely out of ridiculous, at a ridiculous level.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Now, So thank the call.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
I want to ask you.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
I want to ask you a question real quick. I know,
maybe maybe fourth of July or something. Could you guys
maybe play an old Paul Harvey rest of the story,
the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
It's a great it's a great rest of the story. Man.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I think everybody appreciated so well.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That's fun.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That is a question for rights for people way smarter
than me, meaning producer Ali can can look into it.
By the way, I will say two and fiftieth anniversary.
I just saw this come across the Twitter wire here
buck UFC fight South Lawn July fourth, twenty twenty six.
(29:53):
That is according to Dana White, and I think Avanka
Trump is working on trying to put this thing on.
They are going to do the fight and then have
the fireworks I'm gonna try to pull some strings for us,
Buck to get that's one of the coolest sporting events
of all time to see a UFC competition on the
(30:13):
south lawn of the White House and have it sort
of connected also simultaneously to the extraordinary July fourth, on
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States.
It doesn't get much trumpier than that. But that, by
the way, speaking of July fourth is underway right now.
Let's get one more quickly in here, Barney in North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
What you got for us?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah? My thing is with DC and all these other
big cities, they're all democratic run in Democratic run states,
and they're all anti Second Amendment. And is there any
correlation with the violence and crime We're dead?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Uh, thank you for the call, Barney. I bet was
a big fan of Andy Griffith back in the day.
Maybe named after the legend Daid Barney Fife. That is,
by the way, one of the all time great shows.
Do you ever grow up watching Andy Griffith show? Buck?
Oh no, Andy Griffith Show is still so good. Black
and white Andy Griffith before they went to the color version,
(31:17):
old school Andy Griffith shows opie everything else and be
so good. So what's interesting is we have seen skyrocketing
levels of firearms purchase since twenty eighteen ish. I think
if any firearm maker out there were looking at it,
there are way more guns on the street now than
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ever before. And many of the places with the highest
rates of gun ownership are actually seeing much lower rates
of gun violence, and many of the places with the
most restrictive laws on gun ownership are seeing record high
levels of gun violence. Again, it is the legal gun owner,
(32:00):
as many of you know out there, is actually one
of the most law abiding people. Like leave a side
gun crime, they actually commit crimes that infinitely lower rates
anybody else.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Conceal carry permit holders in this country have a lower
violation of the law rate than law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Wow. Yeah, that's a heck of a stat That's a
heck of a stat doesn't surprise me, but but that
is super interesting. Look, I'm going to go to Chattanooga, Tennessee,
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Speaker 3 (34:14):
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Speaker 6 (34:24):
Yeah, you guys are talking about you know, it's it's
kind of low brow to use a gift gift certificate
or you know, a restaurant. I'm thinking, the hell wouldn't
you on.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
A first date. On a first date, you're trying to
impress a girl and she's like, hey, thank you for
taking me to the dinner, and you're like, well, I
just want you to know my mom is basically paying
for this date. Uh, you're not worth my credit card?
Speaker 6 (34:51):
No, see, I think guess where you're wrong here, Clay.
You know somebody gave you a gift certificate and I
know you like, you know where I'm gonna give you
this gift certificate and you said, okay, I'm gonna save this.
So you know, my favorite restaurant. If I've got a
hot date, I'm gonna be able to bring her there.
I might be short of money in that week, but
(35:13):
I'm gonna save it for a special occasion. And you're
gonna use your gift certificate.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That I think Todd has used some gift certificates on that.
I think Todd. Are you married.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Long since Mary? Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Okay. On the first date that you went on with
your wife, did you use a gift certificate?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
They didn't have.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, that's why you're married today, Todd. That's why you're
married today. She would have been like, I can't stay
with this guy. He just used a gift certificate on
our very first date. We'll have some fun. You guys
can weigh in. I love you to thank you for
calling it in. Take you thin. I'm glad you're married
because you would have made a poor decision and tried
to use a gift certificate with the love of your life.
And she would have said, I don't think I can
trust this guy. He doesn't even have the money for
a bloomin onion at outback. Why do I want to
(35:58):
be betrothed to him for the rest of the well?
His mom paid for our date.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
At least he didn't show up to the date on
an escooter and try to make it an e scooter
for two, so he's got that going for him, which
is nice. Could have been a lot worse. We'll have
some fun next hour.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Thanks for having Kley, Travis, and Buck Sexton on the
front lines of truth.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Sean
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and we've got
some interesting stories to update you with, including well, did
we say inflation helps steady at two point seven percent?
Just let you know, inflation holding steady. Trump on the
tariffs looking very prescient, very wise so far.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I know there are people that are still.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Clinging to the idea that, oh no, just wait any
day now the tariffs are going to tank the economy.
Wouldn't that happen at least a little bit, a little.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Bit already if I was gonna see the case.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But we've got also the Trump sit down, the putin
Trump Alaska summit on Friday, where he's going to try
to get a negotiated ceasefire and a pathway to an
end of the Russia Ukraine War, which Clay, I have
to say, the casualty figures that you hear about this,
including when we were up in DC and visited the
(00:56):
White House and talking to some of the national security
folks in that White House, the casualty figures are staggering.
And this is a war that because we're not involved
directly in combat, it is it feels obviously a lot
further away. Our people are not getting shot, Our people
are not getting killed, but there are people getting shot
and killed in huge numbers. And Trump, on a humanitarian
(01:19):
level and on a what's good for the world and
good for business level, wants.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
This thing to end. So we'll see if he's able
to pull that off.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It would be a remarkable situation, Clay, if Trump is
able to get some kind of a deal from Putin,
even the beginnings of a deal from Putin and Zelenski,
and then you're gonna have the media say he gave
he pushed Zelenski too much, or he gave you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's never good enough.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Whatever Trump does, it's never good enough to just be
prepared for that, and they'll never give him a Nobel
Peace Prize no matter.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
What he does.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It does not matter. Trump could end war for all
time and they would still not give him a Nobel
Peace Prize. But we're going to continue to look at
that and give you a preview of whereld that's going on.
But something I thought was very interesting, Clay, the story
that's getting a lot of attention and circulating now on
the DC crime issue. Remember we have a mantra here
on the show we talk about it for elections, but
(02:11):
it's true in general. What really matters to us day
to day economy, border crime, economy, border crime. It's kind
of the triad, the big three of governance and critical issues,
and they obviously play into each other. And there are
areas where the government has an outsized role, perhaps too big,
(02:32):
in the economy. But that's a whole other conversation. And
here we are now looking at efforts to make things
better and safer in DC. You would think that public
safety and reducing crime is a bipartisan, a truly bipartisan issue.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, Clay, I look this up.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It the DC was, in fact, it's a little trivia
for you, the per capita murder capital of the United States,
for at least a year or two in the early nineties,
the worst place for murder in America.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Which is saying something which led to one of the
most unbelievable it's real quotes from a mayor political figure.
He's talking with, the esteemed Marion Barry. The esteemed Marion
Barry said, DC doesn't have a crime rate problem except
for the murders I mean, which is an all timer.
(03:30):
And for people out there who I get it, and
the books are being cooked on crime in many different
cities when it comes to carjacking or robberies, or the
fact that a lot of times, some of you out
there in cities know this to be true. Something gets
stolen and it takes so long for the police to
(03:50):
come that you're like, screw it, this is not even
worth my window got broken. I'm just a lot of
people don't report relatively minor crime because they know it's
more it's gonna take longer of their time than to
deal with it murder.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Which is why when someone stole my East scooter. That's right,
my cool East scooter zoom zoom all over New York
City and then some ruffian, some scoundrel stole my East
scooter right off the streets, it was very sad. You
didn't even report that, right, I did not. I did
not because it costs like two hundred and fifty bucks.
(04:26):
And to go to the police, say, what are they
gonna do? They're gonna have their I mean like legitimately.
Oh yeah, we got our best guys on that one.
We got detectives working around the clock looking for your
East scooter. First of all, I thought they were looking
at me like you you you were all on an
eas scooter, buddy. Really Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Surprised that he dated you when you were single, when
you were riding around on in the East scooter with
a helmet on. Wow, harsh, harsh, way harsh play. But
our East wasn't married there in Miami, Uh people do?
People do ride them here pretty pretty regularly. Yeah, I'd
say it's it's They got really popular in Nashville for
a while and then it was like a whole it
(05:00):
was like they had some sort of overproduction and now
nobody's on them. Have you known there were these companies
of them?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, there were these companies that got venture capital funding,
a number of them, and they just they just sort
of flooded the zone with these electric scooters in a
whole bunch of cities.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Nashville was one of them. DC was one of the
more joint abandoned them in huge piles.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It was actually then it became it became an eyesore
and they they were getting broken, they were getting stolen.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You know, you need a really high trust society for
those things to work the way they're supposed to, meaning
that everyone puts them where they're supposed to be at
the end, and people don't break them, and people don't
steal them, and they don't just leave. So it was
a total mess. The other thing is I know plenty
of people who have like absolutely wiped out.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
On those things. It's not hard. It's not hard to do.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The thing that people don't realize on those things is
that if you if you go to an onni, if
you're going at speed and you go to like an
uneven ledge, yeah, there's no it's not like car where
you go over the speed bump, you will come to
a screeching halt and go flying over those handlebars. I
how people who have lost their teeth broken their elbow anyway,
So that's what happened. So, yeah, someone stole my my
(06:11):
East scooter and I'm still sad about it. Now, let's
talk about the crime statistics that should be reported, and
that is the serious stuff in DC and Clay. It
turns out, for those of us who were skeptical of
the claim that DC has the lowest violent crime rate
it has had in thirty years, for someone noticed not murders.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
We always talked about this. Murders are hard to hide,
No matter what, unless you're in like the middle of
a cartel war and warez. Murders tend to get you know,
the tend to get the attention of beating people the
crocodiles in Costa Rica, right, Like in general, it's hard
to hide dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's it's something that tends to get everyone's attention. And
the murder rate in DC is down a lot from
the nineties, but it went up dramatically, especially because of
BLM twenty three. How to peak, But Clay, here's a
story a DC police commander. This is just from a
This is recent DC police commander under investigation for allegedly
(07:11):
changing crime stats in his district. Now you might say,
oh wait, why would he do that, because they must
be so honest with their crime stats.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The Metro Police Department confirmed that an officer's placed on
paid administrative leave in mid May. But it happened, this
is the key. It happened one week after that officer
filed an EEO complaint on an assistant chief and the
police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data.
(07:43):
This guy came out and was part of Hey, they're
cooking the books. So the police department puts him on
leave for cooking the books, which he says he is
being made to do by his chain of command.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That is highly suspicious. A lot of smoke, and I'm
telling you there's fire there too. Well, you know this,
and anybody who's ever worked in business knows this. You
get targets, and sometimes the data can allow you to
manipulate the targets in ways that make it look like
you're doing better than you actually are because of the
(08:19):
way the data comes in. And so it doesn't surprise me.
This is why, to me, you have to go to murder.
I understand the argument of, hey, there are a lot
of other serious crimes, but I would bet that it
is almost unprecedented for a city to have a low
murder rate and a high violent crime rate in other facets,
(08:40):
right or vice versa. To be true, a high murder
rate and a low violent crime rate in conjunction, none
of that would overlap. Right, A high murder rate is
typically going to also mean a high rate of sexual assault,
a high rate of robbery, a high rate of carjacking,
all of those things running concert. And so you know,
(09:00):
I think overall this is important here's the other thing,
buck that almost nobody talks about. You know, our medical
care has become so good that a lot of people
that in past years would have died of and been
murder victims now survive. So somewhat the rate of murder
(09:21):
over the last twenty five years, it should be noted
down precipitously because we're far better at saving life because
of healthcare, and so I think sometimes you have to
look at number of people that are being shot and
going into hospitals. This is also true, you know, for
combat for the Ukraine Russia war, for instance, and certainly
(09:44):
for other of our soldiers out there. You guys know
this to be true. We are able to save far
more life than we ever have before. So the data
doesn't always tell the same story. Because if you got
shot in nineteen sixty eight odds where you probably are
going to die, we're saving a lot more lives now
compared to then, if that makes sense. So again we'll
(10:06):
get what the actual data shows, and that story is
violent crime is far too often a major issue in
almost every city in America. I think they did it
after the fact assessment of fatalities on our side, Americans
lost in the Vietnam War, and if there was just
a rudimentary training in uh suck what's called the sucking
(10:28):
chest wound, it would have a lot more people would
have survived. So yeah, no, it's it's it's true, these
these numbers. When you can do analysis of them, uh
with with murders, though, what you see is if the
murder rate is high, other crime is high too. This
is the Then there's there's a little bit of a
difference here in San Francisco, for example, and we could
(10:50):
get into why this is. But in San Francisco you
have very high property crime and sort of public disorder crimes,
but a pretty low violent crime rate. But you don't
what you don't have is a very high violence. To
the Marian Verry point, you don't have a very high
violent crime rate and very high murder rate and a
well ordered society otherwise, right that that does not you
(11:13):
can have a lot of property crime and not a
lot of murders. You will not have you know, I
mean even you know, you go to even some.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
European countries and there's a lot of pickpockets and a
lot of theft, but like you know, you're not gonna
get stabbed in an alleyway.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I mean, we talked about this with London and Paris
have one twenty eighth the murder rate of Washington d C.
Let me repeat that, London and Paris one twenty eighth
the murder rate of Washington DC. That's why if you're
ever talking to someone who's British or French and they
(11:48):
are coming to the United States or frankly Australian now
even sometimes Canadian, they look at the data and they think, oh,
my goodness, the United States is incredibly dangerous, and it is.
If you live in London and you're coming over to
New York City, New York City is far safer, and
then you're going to get on a train and come
down to DC, as many Brits do, that's twenty eight
(12:10):
times is likely you would be murdered in Washington d C.
As London, they do have a lot easy to think about.
They have a lot of knife crime and a lot
of home invasions with knives, though in the UK it's
actually getting much worse there than it has been in
a long time. But yes, they don't have the murders
that this is.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Murders are overwhelmingly in this country. I mean, if you
look at the real hub of where this is happening,
it's off. It's generally gang related, inner city shootings. I mean,
that's what really drives This is what drives it in Chicago,
this is what drives it in Saint Louis this is
you go New Orleans, all the places that have Birmingham
(12:48):
unfortunately has a really high crime rate.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Louisville, So Louisville where you know. I mean, and again
to your point, because you did this, the cops know
where the crimes are going to happen. Oh yeah, it's
not as if you need when they talk about DC,
you and I just were up there. We stayed in Georgetown.
I'm sure they can use a few extra cops in Georgetown.
It's pretty safe, right. My uncle was a cop in Savannah,
(13:13):
Georgia in the nineties. He actually moved on to the
LAPD and did his career out there. But he was
for like I think, maybe I don't know, six or
seven years he was in Savannah, PDE. For those of
you who are Savannah listeners. At one of his stories,
he tells he says that he was at a murder,
a scene of a murder, and there was a crowd
that had formed and he just sort of looked around.
He said, you don't anybody see anything? And a guy
(13:34):
put up his hands. He said, I didn't kill anybody.
Turned out turned out that guy went away. That guy
went away. So you know, you never know what you're
gonna find out. But if you flood the zone, so
to speak, there's five neighborhoods in every city that actually
need to have the zone flooded, and you could cut
(13:54):
crime by fifty percent. I mean, that's just the reality.
So when we're talking about police needing to deployed or
National Guard or whatever else, it's really just a few
neighborhoods in most cities where the vast majority of violent
crime happens. So it's it's not as if you need
to flood you know, this is what happens. I mean,
you look at New York.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
They had stop, stop, question and frisk, which they now
abbreviated stop in frisk, but stop questioning frisk. And when
that was going on the city was at its all
time high of safety, and people said, oh, but we
don't need to keep doing that. We don't need to
keep doing that, And yeah, for a few years.
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No, Joe, I'm a black woman in America. I do
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So what is it about talking about places.
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Like Southeast DC? Right ward eight?
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Make us safe.
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I think we have to rethink what safety means in America.
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Is she a moron?
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Is she a more?
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No?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Truly, Why do you have more cops in southeast because
there's more crimes there. Why don't we have as many
cops in the middle of like rural Nebraska as we
do in downtown Baltimore because there's more crimes and people there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I don't think I've ever been anywhere where I have
seen cops and thought I wish there were fewer cops
here in my entire life. I mean, I think partly
this is cultural that Simone Sanders is not really speaking
for herself, because I've at she lives behind the gated
community with tons of severity, in a very nice place
with very low crime. But I have never been anywhere
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in America where I have thought, you know what, I
wish there were fewer cops at this event. I never
thought that in my entire life. Have any of you
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talkbacks here from all of you. Thank you so much,
some of you coming to my defense on the East
scooter thing. Very kind of you.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You know, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Efficient, Clay, I'm sorry some of us want to keep
our carbon footprint small.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
There is a zero percent chance if I were single
that I would have scooted anywhere. I mean I would
have I would have been late for every meeting just
because I would have been afraid that would come by
and see me on the scooter and never date me again.
This is gonna sound like I'm making it up, but
I'm not making it up. But I feel like we're
all family here, so I will tell you this. Okay,
(19:27):
during COVID, a couple of years.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Before I met my wife, when I was a single guy,
I was you know, I was out, you know, trying
to meet the trying to meet the love of my life,
my beloved Carrie, and I hadn't met her yet, and
it was a couple of years before, and I had
the scooter because you know, during COVID, that was one
It was great to have the scooter because you could
fly all over New York not fly, but you you
could move really fast all over the year.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Is there very few people out and about because that time,
so I could get all over but you know, restaurants
will be open sometimes. And I remember I was like,
you know what I was like, for this, this is
true story. I was like, for this, it was a
second date to me. It wasn't her first date.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I was like, but for this date, you know what,
I'm just gonna I'm gonna show up with my scooter
because it's convenient, and like, I'll give her. I'll give
her a ride home on my little East scooter. And
I didn't really think this through. You know, she was
a she's a petit lady, she wasn't big. I didn't
really think this through though. Those things are not meant
for two people. So when she got on the back
(20:22):
of it and we tried to go, I'm not kidding.
We were going zero point five miles an hour. It
was moving walking, but oh walking is way faster.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We were moving, but it was moving at the speed
of like a toddler's Tanka truck, you know what I mean,
when it kind of goes on the driveway and uh,
we had a we had a sustained laugh at my expense.
And uh, I don't think there was a third date.
We didn't there, you go, I wouldn't have kept dating you.
I mean I would have been like, this guy's riding
a scooter. He won't even spend he won't even splurge
(20:54):
for an uber ride back home. It's probably cold the winds.
I do wish there was there was video my face though,
when like, cause you know, I hit the throttle and
I didn't know, and and it kind of like lurched
for and then it was just at you know, at
turtle speed. I mean, it was this old ladies with
walkers were telling me to get out of the way,
slow poke. It was really not good. I remember, this
(21:17):
is kind of funny date story, not for me. I've
been married for twenty like five years or whatever. The
heck it is twenty two years, next year, next month,
this month, anyway, a long time, twenty one years. And
but I remember a girl being like, yeah, I went
on a date. She's like, I'm a little We used
to do I'd do anonymous mail bags at OutKick and
(21:38):
I would answer a lot of questions. Girl was like, yeah,
I went on a first date. It's like, I just
I don't really feel like he was into me. And
I was like, you know in the email, and she
was like and as evidence of that, she said, he
paid with a gift certificate, and I was like, I
was like, I'm sorry, ladies, if you go out to
dinner with a guy on the very first date and
(22:00):
he pays with a gift certificate, then he is really
not that into you because he's not even willing to
pull out the actual credit card. And it's even funnier
if it's like, can you just take the twenty you know,
it's like a twenty five dollars gift certificate, So you know,
I'm just telling you, I don't believe. Maybe there's somebody listening.
I don't believe there's a single marriage that has ever
(22:21):
resulted from a first date or a man paid for
the dinner with a gift certificate, because I think women
are like like, look, i mean, I'm not saying that
I expected the absolute sun of movement stars on the
first date, but you took me to Applebee's or Outback
and you whipped out like the Outback gift certificate for
(22:44):
the bluemin onion. I'm just not saying that that's the
guy that you want to spend the rest of your
life with. Maybe there's somebody out there, if there is
a single person listening who went out on a first
date and the guy she's with paid with a gift certificate,
gift card, and then maybe I'm wrong. I don't think
there's a single relationship that has ever come from a
(23:05):
first date gift certificate. So uh, that is my advice
to men out there that if you're dating a girl,
or if you're the girl, if he's paying for you
with a gift certificate, he's not that into you. He
wasn't even willing to actually use real cash. He's using
what his mom gave him for Christmas to take you. However,
Bloomin Onions still preferable to splitting the check on the
(23:29):
first date. I will say, so it's it's a little,
it's you know, this is in this is purgatory, This
is like in between, right. I mean, it's not great,
but not terrible. Guys, you gotta you gotta pick up the.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Even if you don't like her, even if she's a leg,
even if she's a Bernie Sanders voting purple haired You
didn't know this is what you were getting into date.
You pay on the first date. Guys, don't don't, don't
make it. We have young we have young single men
listeners here, twenties, thirties, forties, guys were single out there.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You pay on the first date. Boys, I agree, it's
just the way it is. There's no offens or. But
all right, Norman in NYC wants the way in. What's
going on? Norman.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
I'm still laughing about the credit card, the gret gift card.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Gift card. You can't do it, Norman, you can't do it.
You've probably been married for thirty years. But I'm trying
to help the young man out there. Don't screw this up.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
My god, God was given to him by his mother.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh my god, it's like you got a Christmas gift
card for the outback steakhouse. You're not even willing to
take and pay the girls dinner for yourself. Your mom
and dad are paying for it. Just can't do it.
Oh my god, Oh my god, you got Norman. You
have to do You have to come back to Norman.
Norman's Norman's uh, he's tickled over there.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
Let me say this, I think first and foremost Washington,
d C should be the safest community on the planet,
and foremost, that is where the President of the United States,
dignitaries come from all over the world. There is no excuses,
no excuses for one thing to be going wrong in Washington,
d C. The second thing is agree with the presidents
(25:01):
and in the National Guard there. And I think that
it's important that the mayor takes the pride off the
shoulder and say I'm getting additional help in the mountain
in Washington, DC to be able to combat the problems
that we face. I think that what I would do
is pair up one law enforcement officers from the district
with one National guardsman to give it more power, to
(25:24):
give people more comfortability. The word national Guard is scaring people.
It's additional law enforcement. New York City talks about the
fact that we need more police. Well, huh, take the
four thousand or five thousand National guardsmen that want to
be deployed. Give them the opportunity to work alongside.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Can I Can I point out something as well, Norman,
All the people that don't totally agree with your sentiments here,
all the people that are freaking out about Trump deploying
National Guard to help with law enforcement. They were fine
with National Guard holding empty six teams at airports during
COVID as if that had anything to do with anything.
I mean, they just had people standing there with guns
(26:03):
making you fill out contact tracing forms. What was the
National Guard gonna do? Hand me some extra cleanexes. It
was absurd, and they were all fine with that. I
just want to point out no purpose for them whatsoever
other than a show of force, because we're all supposed
to obey and bend the need of fauci and vile third.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Oh, absolutely, and let me see this. Tell a mother
that lost her child, it's the gun violence that she
doesn't want more police in the community. Hey man, a
father that doesn't have one. Come on, man, get with poltish.
Let's do what we gotta do. Yes, we're in untrodded
territories in some area. But the ship is turning. Let's
get on board, turn the ship and going in a
(26:41):
different direction. Because all of this other stuff from the
Democrats have not been working. It's just been kicking the
can down the road.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That's great call, Norman. I agree with him. And you
mentioned this yesterday, Buck, and we'll play a cut for you.
Maybe in a little bit. We're gonna take a couple
more calls. But I think Muriel Bowser, the mayor of DC,
actually agree he's with Trump, but politically is not able
to say that. Listen to her answers and how she's
trying to thread that fine line. I think she welcomes
(27:08):
the support.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
She is not.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I if this were happening in Chicago, Mayor Johnson would
be screaming about Nazism and racism and Trump as like
the head of the KKK. I mean, it would be
complete meltdown. Okay, complete meltdown. That's not what you're getting
from Mayor Bowser.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
She was pretty you know.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I mean she's saying I don't think we needed to
trying to defend her record a little. Maybe we should
get to some of those get some of those clips.
She's not She's not coming out swinging hard at Trump
on these things because I think she wants to leave
open the possibility of taking credit for it, which if
it gets better, she'll take a victory lap. And you
know what, if she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Stand in the way, fine, you know, I mean, as
long as it's getting better there because we all know
that people will understand that Trump was the instigator of
these improvements. But yeah, I think it's it's it's very
interesting to see how that dynamic plays out. We've also
got here.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Florida's next. Thank you Dave in Florida.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Yes, hey, listen, buck. When when the when the bike
went dead?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Who pushed?
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Who taking it back?
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
What happened when the scooter was failing? What did you do?
Did you, like just kick her to the curb and
ride home. I I, I will tell you, I called
an uber for her to take her home, and then
I kind of sadly, I didn't really want to ride
the ride the scooter anymore. I kind of walked it home.
You know when you skin your knee as a kid
on your bike and you were like unsure of it,
you know, and you're like, I don't know, like I
(28:37):
was skinned my knee. That's kind of how I felt
about my e scooter. It was like I was defeated
and I just walked alongside it in sorrow alone.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Yeah, took your soccer ball and went home. So you know,
the solutions today for DC and the mayor's solution is
as ridiculous as it was when Marion Barry was in
office and the early nineties, it was the murder capital
of the world, I think a couple of years consecutive.
And that solution was to change the name of the
basketball team from the Washington Bullets because of that Bullets
(29:06):
to the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That was their solution, I remember.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
And it's just completely out of ridiculous, at a ridiculous level.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Now, So thank the call.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
I want to ask you.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
I want to ask you a question real quick. I know,
maybe maybe fourth of July or something. Could you guys
maybe play an old Paul Harvey rest of the story,
the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
It's a great it's a great rest of the story. Man.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I think everybody appreciated so well.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That's fun.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That is a question for rights for people way smarter
than me, meaning producer Ali can can look into it.
By the way, I will say two and fiftieth anniversary.
I just saw this come across the Twitter wire here
buck UFC fight South Lawn July fourth, twenty twenty six.
(29:53):
That is according to Dana White, and I think Avanka
Trump is working on trying to put this thing on.
They are going to do the fight and then have
the fireworks I'm gonna try to pull some strings for us,
Buck to get that's one of the coolest sporting events
of all time to see a UFC competition on the
(30:13):
south lawn of the White House and have it sort
of connected also simultaneously to the extraordinary July fourth, on
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States.
It doesn't get much trumpier than that. But that, by
the way, speaking of July fourth is underway right now.
Let's get one more quickly in here, Barney in North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
What you got for us?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah? My thing is with DC and all these other
big cities, they're all democratic run in Democratic run states,
and they're all anti Second Amendment. And is there any
correlation with the violence and crime We're dead?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Uh, thank you for the call, Barney. I bet was
a big fan of Andy Griffith back in the day.
Maybe named after the legend Daid Barney Fife. That is,
by the way, one of the all time great shows.
Do you ever grow up watching Andy Griffith show? Buck?
Oh no, Andy Griffith Show is still so good. Black
and white Andy Griffith before they went to the color version,
(31:17):
old school Andy Griffith shows opie everything else and be
so good. So what's interesting is we have seen skyrocketing
levels of firearms purchase since twenty eighteen ish. I think
if any firearm maker out there were looking at it,
there are way more guns on the street now than
(31:37):
ever before. And many of the places with the highest
rates of gun ownership are actually seeing much lower rates
of gun violence, and many of the places with the
most restrictive laws on gun ownership are seeing record high
levels of gun violence. Again, it is the legal gun owner,
(32:00):
as many of you know out there, is actually one
of the most law abiding people. Like leave a side
gun crime, they actually commit crimes that infinitely lower rates
anybody else.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Conceal carry permit holders in this country have a lower
violation of the law rate than law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Wow. Yeah, that's a heck of a stat That's a
heck of a stat doesn't surprise me, but but that
is super interesting. Look, I'm going to go to Chattanooga, Tennessee,
my mom's hometown, next week, and I am speaking to
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Speaker 6 (34:24):
Yeah, you guys are talking about you know, it's it's
kind of low brow to use a gift gift certificate
or you know, a restaurant. I'm thinking, the hell wouldn't
you on.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
A first date. On a first date, you're trying to
impress a girl and she's like, hey, thank you for
taking me to the dinner, and you're like, well, I
just want you to know my mom is basically paying
for this date. Uh, you're not worth my credit card?
Speaker 6 (34:51):
No, see, I think guess where you're wrong here, Clay.
You know somebody gave you a gift certificate and I
know you like, you know where I'm gonna give you
this gift certificate and you said, okay, I'm gonna save this.
So you know, my favorite restaurant. If I've got a
hot date, I'm gonna be able to bring her there.
I might be short of money in that week, but
(35:13):
I'm gonna save it for a special occasion. And you're
gonna use your gift certificate.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That I think Todd has used some gift certificates on that.
I think Todd. Are you married.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Long since Mary? Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Okay. On the first date that you went on with
your wife, did you use a gift certificate?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
They didn't have.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, that's why you're married today, Todd. That's why you're
married today. She would have been like, I can't stay
with this guy. He just used a gift certificate on
our very first date. We'll have some fun. You guys
can weigh in. I love you to thank you for
calling it in. Take you thin. I'm glad you're married
because you would have made a poor decision and tried
to use a gift certificate with the love of your life.
And she would have said, I don't think I can
trust this guy. He doesn't even have the money for
a bloomin onion at outback. Why do I want to
(35:58):
be betrothed to him for the rest of the well?
His mom paid for our date.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
At least he didn't show up to the date on
an escooter and try to make it an e scooter
for two, so he's got that going for him, which
is nice. Could have been a lot worse. We'll have
some fun next hour.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Thanks for having Kley, Travis, and Buck Sexton on the
front lines of truth.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
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