August 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show centers on President Donald Trump's bold initiative to combat rising crime in Washington, D.C., a move that has dominated the national news cycle. Trump’s declaration that crime is “out of control” and his plan to deploy federal resources has sparked fierce debate, with Democrats downplaying the issue and conservative voices pushing back.
The hosts dissect the Democratic response, particularly Chuck Schumer’s claim that Trump is using crime as a distraction from the Epstein case. They argue this narrative is politically desperate and disconnected from reality. Polling data from the Washington Post reveals that 91% of D.C. residents believe crime is a problem, with 51% calling it extremely serious, reinforcing Trump’s position and exposing a rift between political elites and everyday Americans.
Commentary from figures like Joe Scarborough and S.E. Cupp—typically aligned with the left—acknowledges the severity of urban crime and criticizes the Democratic strategy of relying on charts and statistics to dismiss public fear. The show highlights how Trump’s tough-on-crime stance resonates with voters, especially in lower-income and minority communities disproportionately affected by violence.
A viral incident involving a Department of Justice employee assaulting a police officer with a Subway sandwich becomes symbolic of the broader cultural clash over law enforcement. The assailant was charged with felony assault, and Attorney General Pam Bondi emphasized that such behavior will not be tolerated under the Trump administration. The hosts argue this marks a shift toward restoring respect for law enforcement and public safety.
The hour also explores urban crime disparities, comparing affluent areas like Northwest D.C. and Georgetown to high-crime zones like Southeast D.C. and parts of Houston. The discussion underscores how liberal elites, often shielded by private security, remain insulated from the violence impacting working-class neighborhoods.
Additional segments include commentary on economic improvements under Trump, such as falling gas and grocery prices, and a critique of how Democrats mishandled messaging around inflation and crime.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We have got a.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Loaded program coming for you. Howard Kurtz from Fox News,
Carol Markowitz from New York Post and the Clay and
Buck podcast network. And then the governor of Alaska, Mike Dunleavy,
not the former basketball player.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I don't think. I don't think he's doing double duty.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
He will be with us as we look towards the
eve of the Trump putin meeting in Anchorage, Alaska, that
is scheduled for tomorrow. I'm sure there will be much
discussion of that both today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But we told you this on Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Trump came out at I believe it was ten am
East Coast time on Monday and said crime is out
of control in Washington, DC, and I'm gonna marshal as
many federal resources as necessary to help stop that from
being a reality.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
He was fed up with what he was seeing.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We now are on day four of Trump dominating the
news cycle, and the news cycle being Democrats arguing, Hey,
crime isn't actually that bad, and meanwhile almost everybody else
is saying, actually, yet is really bad, And why are
(01:19):
you opposed to making crime better than it is right now?
And I just want to play a couple of cuts here, Buck,
to get you started for the day. This is and
I want to give credit before I play him.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We have finally reached a bridge to lunacy that Joe
Scarborough will not take to defend left wing talking points,
perhaps embarrassed chasen by his ridiculousness. As it pertains to
Joe Biden, he is actually making some sense. But first
the people who are not making sense. Chuck Schumer, he
(01:56):
of the Hey, I like to cook Hamburger's on a grill,
Allard increasingly without power in the Senate. Terrified that AOC
is going to challenge him, he says, I feel perfectly
safe in DC, and this is all just an Epstein distraction.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Flailing Chuck Schumer. Cut three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I walk around all the time. I wake up early
in the morning sometimes and take a nice walk as
the sun is rising around some of the capital and
the other monuments and things, and I feel perfectly safe.
They're full of it. Look here's what they've done, Aaron,
plain and simple. Donald Trump wants to distract. That's his game.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Plan.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
It's been his mo for his first term in the
presidency and now so he trying to make this a distraction.
What's he trying to distract from, Well, a lot of things,
but above all Epstein. We've been confronting him on Epstein
very successfully left and right, so much so that Johnson
had a dismiss you know, had to send his house
(02:57):
a home early, and we called it the Epstein recess.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, this is desperate, primarily because Democrats were in power
for four years and did nothing at all. By and
large relating to Epstein, Epstein has started to vanish as
Trump has, I think, tried to marshal as much public
release of data as he possibly can, and Democrats are
(03:23):
now buck in the position of arguing. The first part
of this is what I thought was interesting, Chuck Schumer saying,
I get up early in the morning and I walk
around the capital. First of all, I question how often
this happens. Maybe hopefully he's out for walks and he's
a very healthy guy. But I don't think most people
are saying, hey, it's six am, it's deadly necessarily to
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go walk along beside the Washington Monument and the Lincoln memorial.
I think even Chuck Schumer would have to realize that
much of the issue related to crime is in residential areas,
and this is kind of a flailing nature that they're
in right now. They're telling people to not believe what
they see with their own eyes. Crime is bad, and
(04:05):
I think everybody out there recognizing it and Trump trying
to make it better is actually just a good thing
and not particularly political.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It's also remarkable that the fallback now has turned into, well,
we're doing such a good job as Democrats on the
Epstein thing. Yeah, that's the big that's the big attack.
That's what they're going after the administration on, just to
note something they didn't care.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
About at all four years.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
For four years, yeah, there was absolutely no discussion whatsoever
from them about Epstein.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And yet here we are now being told that.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Any so anything that Trump wants to talk about that
they don't want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Their go to is he just wants to distract from Epstein.
I think that's.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
People from being murdered in order to distract from Epstein.
I would argue, would even be even if it were true,
I would actually argue, that's good. You know, Epstein's dead
and notmitting, to my knowledge, any current crimes. I'd rather
protect people from current crimes as opposed to focus on
past ones personally. So even that argument is a weak
(05:08):
one when you actually break it down in that respect.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, I think that the whole Democrat Party is desperate
for anything that they can say right now. That just
seems like they're even in opposition because there's nothing they
can really pull Uh, there's nothing they can really pull
together that will hit hard against where Trump currently is.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I would note that on.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
The crime issue, you've had a number of people come
out come forward.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Here.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Here's my old friend se Cup. Actually I wanted to
play this one. She used to do the Real New
Show with me at The Blaze many years ago at
Glenn Beck's The Blaze, and she had this to say
at CNN to the Democrats, to their faces, play seven.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The numbers can be what they are.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
But also people don't feel that way. And when it
comes to two things, crime in the economy, feelings don't
really care about your facts. And I can't tell you
how profoundly stupid it is for Democrats to get up
with their facts and their figures and their charts in
the graphs and say, look, you're safe. Can't you read
this chart?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Idiots? Why are you complaining?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
I'm showing you right here how safe you are, So
shut up and move along.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it doesn't work. Tough argument, and that's what they're trying.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I give credit you wanted to play se cup there.
There's actually quite a few people on the left that
are saying, you know what, again, this is a bridge
too far. Joe Scarborough, who basically proved he didn't have
a gag reflex as long as Joe Biden was president,
even he now is saying, look, DC is really dangerous.
(06:42):
And on MSNBC they have that panel show, the Morning
Show that you watch, Buck, I watched this clip. There's
like eight people that are all there in like tiny
little boxes. They have this huge up ensemble cast and
Scarborough's just lecturing everybody. Actually, Trump's right about how violent
the crime situation is. And I don't think this is
(07:03):
playing very well. Here's cut eight. This is what they
heard on MSNBC.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
The answer to this, this this problem for Democrats is
not everything's okay, there's nothing to see here, Move along,
move along. Oh, Washington has dropped twenty four percent or
whatever in crime.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Well, let me give you some other numbers. The Washington
Post took a poll in late April early May. Ninety
one percent of Washington residents say crime is a problem,
ninety one percent fifty one percent it is an extremely
serious problem. There are stark divides among the lines of
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race and income in the poll, with black residents and
lower income residents significantly more worried about crime than white
residents and those with high incomes.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I think that's actually well said by Joe Scarborough. The
base of the Democrat Party actually feels the crime, that
is poor black voters in a way that the left
wing media that lives in Northwest d C. And oftentimes
has private security protecting them, is a bit protected from this.
(08:26):
And this ties in with what Harry Inton is saying
this is CNN that he thinks this is a total
miscalculation by Democrats too, and again trying to reduce violent
crime as something historically that almost all Americans have been
in favor of.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Cut six.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
Look at where Donald Trump is way, way way above
Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What is that? That's twenty seven points.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
So Americans vastly prefer Donald Trump's approach to crime than
they ditch to Joe Biden's and again I think it
gets back to the point that Americans are far more
hawkish on crime than a lot of Democrats want to admit.
This isn't just about Donald Trump. It's about Republicans versus Democrats, right,
and that, of course is a key question going into
next year's midterm election. I think the party closest to
(09:10):
your views on crime. Look in twenty twenty three, Republicans
were favored by thirteen points.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Look at where they were in May of this year.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
Republicans were actually favored by sixty months.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They actually gained ground on crime.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
They were maintaining their edge and actually added a little
bit to it. So Republicans in the House, Republicans in
the Senate, they absolutely want to be talking about crime.
The more they feel that we're talking about crime, the
better they feel that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The electoral landscape.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Is for them.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Are you surprised that this has been the Democrat position
that actually crimes getting better and that Trump. I mean,
if they had come out and said, hey, he's exceeding
his presidential authority, we don't like that. But to argue, hey,
crime's actually down and there's no need for this it
feels like an own goal, uh, shooting themselves in the foot,
(09:55):
even within lenient standards, because Democrats do that a lot.
I'm kind of surprised that they stepped right into this
bear trap.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I guess they just.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Don't really have any sense of of how to pivot
from something that Trump is on and come up with
a better or a you know, their own version of
how to fix it. Because to me, that would be
they could come out and say, well, this isn't for
the president to do, but we should have more resources
for now. I think the response to that would likely
(10:26):
be something along the lines of, yeah, we've been trying that.
Whatever they're going to say has probably been tried before
and failed for a long time. And I think that
they're going to be in trouble no matter what. But
they have turned something that you would think would be
a more minor issue into a much larger, much longer
term issue, which I find surprising the lack of political
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foresight that they have here. They've given Trump the news
cycle this whole week, to the point where as we said,
Chuck Schumer is saying it's because he doesn't want to
talk about Epstein. But how long are they going to
be pulling that one off that doesn't work. And also
to look at the numbers, the crime numbers they initially
kept comparing it to twenty twenty three. Comparing the drop
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in crime to the year that had the single nationwide
largest increase in homicides in sixty years looks really disingenuous
to anybody who understands numbers and statistics, so that they're
having problems all over the place.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, I also think Scarborough's point is well taken. I
mean a Washington Post poll or did he say ninety
one percent of DC residents say crime is a problem,
and I think he said fifty six percent said it
was an incredibly significant problem. You can't lie to people
about what they feel. Eventually you can address the underlying concerns.
(11:44):
I'll give you an example on this right now. The
economy is getting better under Trump. But I also understand
that explaining to people that the economy is getting better
is sometimes challenging because it takes a while for the
national economic mood to shift and reflect what people are
(12:04):
actually seeing. I think some of you are feeling it.
Gas prices are down relative to where they have been,
Grocery prices according to the most recent producer price Index
numbers actually coming down. And so the challenge I think
is prices went up so fast that things still cost
more than people think they should. But we are rectifying
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this issue in many different ways. It's just taking a
little while. And again, Trump has commandeered the national news
cycle now for four days over he wants to bring
down violent crime. Democrats have mostly said violent crime is
not that much of an issue. And now starting tomorrow,
all of the new cycle through the entire weekend is
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going to be reacting to Trump and Putin and what
is likely to be occurring based on that relationship. So
all of that coming your way. But you know the
world is going a little bit upside down when even
a guy like Joe Scarborough is saying, hey, you're making
a lot of sense here.
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Speaker 5 (14:40):
Welcome back in, everybody to Play and Buck and Uh.
We are still talking about this DC crime situation. So
Clay this, there's a there's a the subway sandwich.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Did this Jay have sandwich assault? I think it happened
last night, According to FBI Director Cash Patel's twitter post,
I think Judge Janine talked about it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
This is what I was going to say. Let's hear
Judge Janine.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
She discussed this subway sandwich assault that occurred play nine.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
The President's message to the criminals was, if you spit,
we hit.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, we didn't quite.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
Do that the other night when an individual went up
to one of the federal law enforcement officers and started
jumping up and down, screaming at him, berating him, yelling
at him, and then he took a subway sandwich about
this big and took it and threw it at the officer.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
He thought it was funny.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
Well he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged
it with a felony assault on a police officer and
we're going to back the police to the hilt. So there,
stick your subway sandwich somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm sorry, Oh, judge, Janine is so good. I mean,
she's just so good.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I shared this video buck and it is a guy
in a pink polo. Just first of all, don't scream
at police officers, I.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Mean in general.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But then he takes like what appears to be like
a foot long sub and just throws it as hard
as he can at the police officer. And you can say, okay, like,
is this the most serious thing that's ever happened to
that police officer?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Surely not.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But when you send did you see this video? I
can't stop laughing at the video.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
He's so casual too, as he's kind of he's not
even running away that fat well.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I think he thinks that that there are no consequences, right,
which has typically been true. You can throw water bottles
at police officers, you can spit on them. And I
think the actual symbolism of this is important because it
sends the message don't touch an officer, don't throw anything
at it.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Absolutely and officers have done in all honesty, all officers
have dealt with too much physical assault, disrespect, all kinds
of things. I still am fired up about the Antifa
lunatics during BLM out in Portland who are just shining
lasers in their eyes, trying to destroy their vision.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I mean, you know, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Something that you have to probably have the laser your
eye a little longer than these guys are able to do. Yeah,
but if somebody's trying to blind me, I think very
extreme force in response to that is completely justified. So
and none of those guys got serious punishments for that.
So this is a good change in the approach. It's
just the fact that guy wore a pink I mean, look, hey,
I'm a pink polo kind of guy myself. I'm not
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throwing I'm not throwing sandwiches over the pink polo. I'm
just saying, if you're gonna throw the sandwich at the cop,
don't do it wearing a pig polo.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, and look, I give them credit because the video
is going viral and we'll have some more fun with this,
by the way, because I can't stop laughing about watching
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(18:55):
rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Lots of
reaction rolling into Pink Polo and his subway attack assault
on an officer, But I do think it's somewhat representative
of a certain left wing response to increase police officers
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in DC. There are protests now that are developing against
police officers being able to protect people from being murdered,
and I just I look at this and I do
think buck, what Trump kind of is brilliantly exploiting in
some way is the disconnect from the people who are
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the limousine liberal universe, as Rushwood call them, who typically
have their own private security, They have their own universe
that tends to be far safer, where the rules are
enforced and law is respected. And then most of those people,
by the way, live in Northwest d C, Which, for
those of you who don't know, is by the wealthiest
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part of the Washington DC area. And then there's all
the other people who tend to live in southeast and
live in a lawless in many ways society, and they're
begging for help and Trump is giving it to them,
and the pink Polos of the world are furious that
there are police officers out on the streets. I do
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think that that video that has gone megaviral is somewhat
evocative of that disconnect, because in general, I think it
represents like, if you have that level of disrespect for
a police officer, it's probably because you don't feel personally
threatened by violence. And that's the only reason I can
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think of why you're screaming at a police officer standing
on the street trying to enforce the law. But I
do think that Joe Scarborough commentary and that video just
really kind of illustrate in a very quick manner what
Trump has pointed out, which is most people on the
left don't actually care about violence because it doesn't impact
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their daily life.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, and they recognize that Republicans have staked out for
a long time now the position of we do need
to just enforce the law, We need to back police,
and we need to incarcerate people where none of this
stuff gets better and every time they're able to have
it their way or every time that experiment is wrong
with that in mind, things do get better, things do improve.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So we we.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Own this territory, so to speak, as Republicans and Democrats
don't want to seed ever that we are correct. It's subburn,
it's it's a bit of bitterness too thrown in there.
And as you say, it's because so many of these
people And it was like I was, I was taking
some shots at what was George will with the vote
tie the other day.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, it Chevy lives in Chevy Chase.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Chevy Chase is not is not DC DC, right, I
mean this is this is like people. There are areas
I've been to suburbs of Baltimore beautiful people have like farms,
and I mean it's lovely, you know, it's really nice.
That's not Baltimore, even if it's Baltimore County whatever, it is.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
So a lot of people I think that weigh in
on this stuff too, they say. As a New Yorker,
I'm particularly sensitive to this. People say, oh, you know,
I think New York is really safe, and like, where
do you live, Chappaquah, you don't know, you know nothing.
Where do you let Scarsdale? Yeah, I'm like, I'm I'm
Scarsdale safe. I'm not worried about Scarsdale, but you know,
(22:32):
go spend some time in the South. Bronxon, talk to
me about how safe the city is. Although New York
Manhattan is pretty safe for a large city, Boston, I believe,
is a good bit safer for a a sizable city.
So there's really substantial differences here when you look at it.
I was surprised Houston's actually got more of a crime.
(22:53):
You don't hear about it a lot. I was looking
at some of the stats Houston has a rougher time
with crime with side specifically and shootings that I had
to anticipate. It doesn't get a lot of news coverage.
But that was another city because obviously one of the
biggest cities in the country that came up that definitely
needs some help.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I think they have BORROWSDA or at least they used to.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
One of the challenges on the data is where I
live is Williamson County, right, I think south of Nashville.
I think I don't know, there's like three hundred thousand
people or something who live in my county. Basically it's Nashville.
There's a murder rate essentially here of zero. There might
have been one or two murders in the whole county
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in a year. And so one of the challenges you
get into to be fair on some of this data
is some cities only count a certain part of the
city and it could be a big, sprawling metropolis. And
so I wonder on Houston, which is the fourth biggest
city in the country, right, it's a huge, sprawling metropolis.
That's why I think the New York data is so
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interesting because New York City has what eight million people
who live in the five boroughs of New York City
if I'm not mistaken roughly, and you compare that eight
million with the seven hundred thousand or so that live
in d C, and DC per capita is out of control. Now,
some people would say, well, if you count Montgomery County
and you count Arlington and all the surrounding areas, d
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C would look a lot less violent than it does
when you only count the District of Columbia by itself. So,
for instance, Shelby County where Memphis is, is insanely violent,
but if you counted all of the surrounding metropolitan area
of Memphis, it would dial back some of the violence
a little bit. So my point on that is sometimes
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the data is an entirely illustrative of the full picture.
But I do think d C, which exists in this
unique world where it's just a federal district. To your point,
the George Wills of the world, they live just across
the border in Maryland and they're like, there is no
crime here. You're like, well, yeah, George, you probably haven't
been to Southeast DC in forty years, unless you count
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going to the Washington Nationals. Like right on the edge.
I think of southeast a little bit is where the
baseball stadium is there. So it is in many ways
something that I think the elite, the wealthy of DC
just pretend doesn't exist because it doesn't come into their
universe very often. And remember this has been a big
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issue in DC for a long time. They kept the
subway from going to Georgetown because they didn't want people
who were poor to have easy access to people who
were rich.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
In d C. It is a huge deal. They didn't
want the subway.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Anybody who's been there, you have to get out at
GW and walk up or you have to now take
obviously an uber or walk across the river from Virginia.
They tried to protect themselves from the lesser class who
couldn't afford their multimillion dollar Georgetown mansions. It is very interesting.
All those people vote left, all those people were combal
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of voters, but boy, they really don't want violent crime
to have easy access to them, do they.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
And yet Georgetown does have its spillover of It's a
lot safer than other parts of the city, of course,
but there's stuff that happens in Georgetown that is that
you'd be shocked for this to occur. In the nicest
neighborhood of other cities. So look, Trump is right on this,
and Democrats can do whatever they want with this, with
(26:28):
the squawking and the and the screaming, and.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
They can they can throw a fit.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
At the end of the day, Trump has latched onto
yet another issue, has has put forward another program and
set of policies where anybody who is being honest about
it is saying, yeah, that that seems more, that seems sensible.
And they have already been doing a number of arrests.
They're taking dangerous people off the.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Off the streets.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
So I think that you might it's gonna say, it's
not gonna be a huge change in the crime data,
it will have a positive effect. Our subway assaulter is
was a Department of Justice employee.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And this is the kind I mean. This is what
Attorney General Pam Bondi tweeted just a little bit ago.
I just learned this defendant worked at the Department of
Justice no longer. Bondi said, in all caps, this is
an example of the deep state we have been up
against for seven months. As we work to refocus DJ,
you will not work in this administration while disrespecting our
(27:33):
government and law enforcement. And so this individual is named
I want to make sure I get his name, Sean
Charles Dunn, and he was a DOJ employee. But I
do think do you think that guy in DJ was
aggressively enforcing Trump DOJ policies? I bet that he was
(27:58):
a diehard commalist supporter. That's why he was screaming at
the judge and I mean screaming at the officer, and
why he felt like he could just pull back a
sub and throw it. Because to be fair, how many
times have you seen videos of police officers just taking
objects being pelted at these BLM protests for instance, nothing
(28:19):
ever happened. You just got guys standing there, water bottles
hitting them, all sorts of pepper spray sometimes. I mean, so,
I do think this is a change of policy. The
guy thought, hey, nothing's gonna happen to me. I'm just
gonna throw this at the officer, and you know it
is it is going to be interesting. That happened Sunday night,
Northwest DC and he was arrested Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Do we know what sparked the Sandwich confrontation.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
The report is that he was angry over too many
police officers and screaming at the police officers for standing around,
and that was what eventually led him. I mean, I
assume I watch this video and the way he ran, yeah,
that's my assumption. I mean, it doesn't look like something
that a sober guy would do. So I'm assuming the
(29:09):
guy whod been out somewhere probably had too many drinks,
was a leftist got angry at a police officer, thought
that there would be no consequences because there haven't been
really any consequences for leftists who do anything to police
officers for years. And as the kids say, f a
and now he's f owing.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yeah, I'm shocked that this guy would think that this
is going to go in any you know, doing this
at any point in time is unwise. To do it
right now given the focus on this nationalist is is
pretty crazy. But you know, there are people who believe
this stuff about how this is this is martial law
or the militarization of police, and this is part of
(29:52):
There are less of them now than there have been,
but there are still people out there who think that
Trump is about to declare himself like dictator for life,
and this is part of that move.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
So you can see this stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Online, but imagine working at the DOJ and think that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
This is the part of it that's really bizarre to me.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
And also not understanding or or being able to think
about the consequences in advance of assaulting a police officer
in the current environment like that when you work for
the Department of Justice. I mean, he would you would
hope that he would know that it is technically a
felony to physically assault the police officer who on duty.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I mean, you would think you would know that.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I think that this is an example of how you
have protected people for leftist political thought. I think he
thought that he was above the law, and I think
he has now found out that there's a lot so
many subway samwich jokes that you can make. But where
are you on side? So I really can't because of
(30:56):
Celiac disease. Unfortunately, I really can't experience the full glories
of the subway sandwich. Where are you on that? I
love subway, I eat there. I never I have never
had a subway sandwich that I can remember.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ever in your life. I like subway.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I like Jimmy John's, I like all of the you know,
you give me a sandwich with chips and a soda,
it's to me the perfect meal.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I understand. What is the best of the sandwich I get?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, I get either the meatball sub at Subway, which
I think is very good, or I get my tubs
my my sub toasted, and I get my favorite is
sweet onion chicken tarioki sub. So those are the two
my typical go to if I'm now I'm getting hungry.
And if Subway just got a huge advertisement from us
(31:45):
that they were never planning on thanks to that moron
throwing a Subway sandwich at the at the cop But
I'm a big fan. I like Subway. I think relatively speaking,
it's it's healthy. You know, they had that one guy
who lost a lot of money that I've lost a
lot of weight. Unfortunately he ended up being a pedophile.
I think, right well, that was an unexpected twist in
the in the weight loss story. But you know, I mean,
(32:08):
I do think that they do a good job of
letting you count calories, which is not necessarily very easy
in much of the fast food universe.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So I like them.
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Speaker 5 (34:42):
Just I was feeling like, you know what, all right,
all right, so it's a little a little harder than
maybe I need to hit a little harder than that
video to get to where we need to be. None
other than Jim Jordan, who I believe is a state
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to say that while he respects my technique and recognizes
that mister Buck has game, he thinks one hundred miles
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an hour maybe just maybe just completely out out of reach.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
What I woke up this morning and early this morning,
I'm doing my prep. Jim Jordan text me, appreciate, but
we do really appreciate the number of congressman senators who
listen to the show when they're you know, running around,
driving around their districts everything else. A lot of them do.
Jim texting me listening to yesterday show. We all love Buck,
(35:31):
but I'm a no.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
So this is like a bless your heart text from
Jim Jordan. We all love fuck but yeah, we all
love Buck, but I'm a no.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I also appreciate I I was laughed when I saw
that because I'm thinking that that's probably how like Jim
sometimes has to text Mike Johnson, you know, and they're like, hey,
we got a close vote.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
We all love So I'm wondering.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
By the way, these speed guns have a plus or
minus of like three four miles an hour. I'm just wondering,
if we get up to like ninety six, ninety seven,
ninety eight, are people gonna still be throwing flags on
this one?
Speaker 9 (36:06):
You know?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
If the speed gun officially says ninety eight, am I
gonna have.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
People look, Oh, that's not one hundred. I mean, you know,
like we gotta be fair.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
People are saying sixty in the comments, Clay sixty, get
out of here, sixty.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
This is madness.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Laura Travis is sticking sticking to her guns. Happy anniversary,
by the way, to Laura Travis, twenty one years. She's
managed to stay with me, but she is convinced that
you can't hit one hundred miles an hour, set it
again this morning, so so she is going hard in
the paint there. Jim Jordan also got the back. We'll
see what happens next with Howard Kirks.
Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We have got a.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Loaded program coming for you. Howard Kurtz from Fox News,
Carol Markowitz from New York Post and the Clay and
Buck podcast network. And then the governor of Alaska, Mike Dunleavy,
not the former basketball player.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I don't think. I don't think he's doing double duty.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
He will be with us as we look towards the
eve of the Trump putin meeting in Anchorage, Alaska, that
is scheduled for tomorrow. I'm sure there will be much
discussion of that both today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But we told you this on Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Trump came out at I believe it was ten am
East Coast time on Monday and said crime is out
of control in Washington, DC, and I'm gonna marshal as
many federal resources as necessary to help stop that from
being a reality.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
He was fed up with what he was seeing.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We now are on day four of Trump dominating the
news cycle, and the news cycle being Democrats arguing, Hey,
crime isn't actually that bad, and meanwhile almost everybody else
is saying, actually, yet is really bad, And why are
(01:19):
you opposed to making crime better than it is right now?
And I just want to play a couple of cuts here, Buck,
to get you started for the day. This is and
I want to give credit before I play him.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We have finally reached a bridge to lunacy that Joe
Scarborough will not take to defend left wing talking points,
perhaps embarrassed chasen by his ridiculousness. As it pertains to
Joe Biden, he is actually making some sense. But first
the people who are not making sense. Chuck Schumer, he
(01:56):
of the Hey, I like to cook Hamburger's on a grill,
Allard increasingly without power in the Senate. Terrified that AOC
is going to challenge him, he says, I feel perfectly
safe in DC, and this is all just an Epstein distraction.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Flailing Chuck Schumer. Cut three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I walk around all the time. I wake up early
in the morning sometimes and take a nice walk as
the sun is rising around some of the capital and
the other monuments and things, and I feel perfectly safe.
They're full of it. Look here's what they've done, Aaron,
plain and simple. Donald Trump wants to distract. That's his game.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Plan.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
It's been his mo for his first term in the
presidency and now so he trying to make this a distraction.
What's he trying to distract from, Well, a lot of things,
but above all Epstein. We've been confronting him on Epstein
very successfully left and right, so much so that Johnson
had a dismiss you know, had to send his house
(02:57):
a home early, and we called it the Epstein recess.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, this is desperate, primarily because Democrats were in power
for four years and did nothing at all. By and
large relating to Epstein, Epstein has started to vanish as
Trump has, I think, tried to marshal as much public
release of data as he possibly can, and Democrats are
(03:23):
now buck in the position of arguing. The first part
of this is what I thought was interesting, Chuck Schumer saying,
I get up early in the morning and I walk
around the capital. First of all, I question how often
this happens. Maybe hopefully he's out for walks and he's
a very healthy guy. But I don't think most people
are saying, hey, it's six am, it's deadly necessarily to
(03:43):
go walk along beside the Washington Monument and the Lincoln memorial.
I think even Chuck Schumer would have to realize that
much of the issue related to crime is in residential areas,
and this is kind of a flailing nature that they're
in right now. They're telling people to not believe what
they see with their own eyes. Crime is bad, and
(04:05):
I think everybody out there recognizing it and Trump trying
to make it better is actually just a good thing
and not particularly political.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It's also remarkable that the fallback now has turned into, well,
we're doing such a good job as Democrats on the
Epstein thing. Yeah, that's the big that's the big attack.
That's what they're going after the administration on, just to
note something they didn't care.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
About at all four years.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
For four years, yeah, there was absolutely no discussion whatsoever
from them about Epstein.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And yet here we are now being told that.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Any so anything that Trump wants to talk about that
they don't want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Their go to is he just wants to distract from Epstein.
I think that's.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
People from being murdered in order to distract from Epstein.
I would argue, would even be even if it were true,
I would actually argue, that's good. You know, Epstein's dead
and notmitting, to my knowledge, any current crimes. I'd rather
protect people from current crimes as opposed to focus on
past ones personally. So even that argument is a weak
(05:08):
one when you actually break it down in that respect.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, I think that the whole Democrat Party is desperate
for anything that they can say right now. That just
seems like they're even in opposition because there's nothing they
can really pull Uh, there's nothing they can really pull
together that will hit hard against where Trump currently is.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I would note that on.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
The crime issue, you've had a number of people come
out come forward.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Here.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Here's my old friend se Cup. Actually I wanted to
play this one. She used to do the Real New
Show with me at The Blaze many years ago at
Glenn Beck's The Blaze, and she had this to say
at CNN to the Democrats, to their faces, play seven.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The numbers can be what they are.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
But also people don't feel that way. And when it
comes to two things, crime in the economy, feelings don't
really care about your facts. And I can't tell you
how profoundly stupid it is for Democrats to get up
with their facts and their figures and their charts in
the graphs and say, look, you're safe. Can't you read
this chart?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Idiots? Why are you complaining?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
I'm showing you right here how safe you are, So
shut up and move along.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it doesn't work. Tough argument, and that's what they're trying.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I give credit you wanted to play se cup there.
There's actually quite a few people on the left that
are saying, you know what, again, this is a bridge
too far. Joe Scarborough, who basically proved he didn't have
a gag reflex as long as Joe Biden was president,
even he now is saying, look, DC is really dangerous.
(06:42):
And on MSNBC they have that panel show, the Morning
Show that you watch, Buck, I watched this clip. There's
like eight people that are all there in like tiny
little boxes. They have this huge up ensemble cast and
Scarborough's just lecturing everybody. Actually, Trump's right about how violent
the crime situation is. And I don't think this is
(07:03):
playing very well. Here's cut eight. This is what they
heard on MSNBC.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
The answer to this, this this problem for Democrats is
not everything's okay, there's nothing to see here, Move along,
move along. Oh, Washington has dropped twenty four percent or
whatever in crime.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Well, let me give you some other numbers. The Washington
Post took a poll in late April early May. Ninety
one percent of Washington residents say crime is a problem,
ninety one percent fifty one percent it is an extremely
serious problem. There are stark divides among the lines of
(07:47):
race and income in the poll, with black residents and
lower income residents significantly more worried about crime than white
residents and those with high incomes.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I think that's actually well said by Joe Scarborough. The
base of the Democrat Party actually feels the crime, that
is poor black voters in a way that the left
wing media that lives in Northwest d C. And oftentimes
has private security protecting them, is a bit protected from this.
(08:26):
And this ties in with what Harry Inton is saying
this is CNN that he thinks this is a total
miscalculation by Democrats too, and again trying to reduce violent
crime as something historically that almost all Americans have been
in favor of.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Cut six.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
Look at where Donald Trump is way, way way above
Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What is that? That's twenty seven points.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
So Americans vastly prefer Donald Trump's approach to crime than
they ditch to Joe Biden's and again I think it
gets back to the point that Americans are far more
hawkish on crime than a lot of Democrats want to admit.
This isn't just about Donald Trump. It's about Republicans versus Democrats, right,
and that, of course is a key question going into
next year's midterm election. I think the party closest to
(09:10):
your views on crime. Look in twenty twenty three, Republicans
were favored by thirteen points.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Look at where they were in May of this year.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
Republicans were actually favored by sixty months.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They actually gained ground on crime.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
They were maintaining their edge and actually added a little
bit to it. So Republicans in the House, Republicans in
the Senate, they absolutely want to be talking about crime.
The more they feel that we're talking about crime, the
better they feel that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The electoral landscape.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Is for them.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Are you surprised that this has been the Democrat position
that actually crimes getting better and that Trump. I mean,
if they had come out and said, hey, he's exceeding
his presidential authority, we don't like that. But to argue, hey,
crime's actually down and there's no need for this it
feels like an own goal, uh, shooting themselves in the foot,
(09:55):
even within lenient standards, because Democrats do that a lot.
I'm kind of surprised that they stepped right into this
bear trap.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I guess they just.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Don't really have any sense of of how to pivot
from something that Trump is on and come up with
a better or a you know, their own version of
how to fix it. Because to me, that would be
they could come out and say, well, this isn't for
the president to do, but we should have more resources
for now. I think the response to that would likely
(10:26):
be something along the lines of, yeah, we've been trying that.
Whatever they're going to say has probably been tried before
and failed for a long time. And I think that
they're going to be in trouble no matter what. But
they have turned something that you would think would be
a more minor issue into a much larger, much longer
term issue, which I find surprising the lack of political
(10:48):
foresight that they have here. They've given Trump the news
cycle this whole week, to the point where as we said,
Chuck Schumer is saying it's because he doesn't want to
talk about Epstein. But how long are they going to
be pulling that one off that doesn't work. And also
to look at the numbers, the crime numbers they initially
kept comparing it to twenty twenty three. Comparing the drop
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in crime to the year that had the single nationwide
largest increase in homicides in sixty years looks really disingenuous
to anybody who understands numbers and statistics, so that they're
having problems all over the place.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, I also think Scarborough's point is well taken. I
mean a Washington Post poll or did he say ninety
one percent of DC residents say crime is a problem,
and I think he said fifty six percent said it
was an incredibly significant problem. You can't lie to people
about what they feel. Eventually you can address the underlying concerns.
(11:44):
I'll give you an example on this right now. The
economy is getting better under Trump. But I also understand
that explaining to people that the economy is getting better
is sometimes challenging because it takes a while for the
national economic mood to shift and reflect what people are
(12:04):
actually seeing. I think some of you are feeling it.
Gas prices are down relative to where they have been,
Grocery prices according to the most recent producer price Index
numbers actually coming down. And so the challenge I think
is prices went up so fast that things still cost
more than people think they should. But we are rectifying
(12:28):
this issue in many different ways. It's just taking a
little while. And again, Trump has commandeered the national news
cycle now for four days over he wants to bring
down violent crime. Democrats have mostly said violent crime is
not that much of an issue. And now starting tomorrow,
all of the new cycle through the entire weekend is
(12:50):
going to be reacting to Trump and Putin and what
is likely to be occurring based on that relationship. So
all of that coming your way. But you know the
world is going a little bit upside down when even
a guy like Joe Scarborough is saying, hey, you're making
a lot of sense here.
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Speaker 5 (14:40):
Welcome back in, everybody to Play and Buck and Uh.
We are still talking about this DC crime situation. So
Clay this, there's a there's a the subway sandwich.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Did this Jay have sandwich assault? I think it happened
last night, According to FBI Director Cash Patel's twitter post,
I think Judge Janine talked about it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
This is what I was going to say. Let's hear
Judge Janine.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
She discussed this subway sandwich assault that occurred play nine.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
The President's message to the criminals was, if you spit,
we hit.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, we didn't quite.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
Do that the other night when an individual went up
to one of the federal law enforcement officers and started
jumping up and down, screaming at him, berating him, yelling
at him, and then he took a subway sandwich about
this big and took it and threw it at the officer.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
He thought it was funny.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
Well he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged
it with a felony assault on a police officer and
we're going to back the police to the hilt. So there,
stick your subway sandwich somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm sorry, Oh, judge, Janine is so good. I mean,
she's just so good.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I shared this video buck and it is a guy
in a pink polo. Just first of all, don't scream
at police officers, I.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Mean in general.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But then he takes like what appears to be like
a foot long sub and just throws it as hard
as he can at the police officer. And you can say, okay, like,
is this the most serious thing that's ever happened to
that police officer?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Surely not.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But when you send did you see this video? I
can't stop laughing at the video.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
He's so casual too, as he's kind of he's not
even running away that fat well.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I think he thinks that that there are no consequences, right,
which has typically been true. You can throw water bottles
at police officers, you can spit on them. And I
think the actual symbolism of this is important because it
sends the message don't touch an officer, don't throw anything
at it.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Absolutely and officers have done in all honesty, all officers
have dealt with too much physical assault, disrespect, all kinds
of things. I still am fired up about the Antifa
lunatics during BLM out in Portland who are just shining
lasers in their eyes, trying to destroy their vision.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I mean, you know, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Something that you have to probably have the laser your
eye a little longer than these guys are able to do. Yeah,
but if somebody's trying to blind me, I think very
extreme force in response to that is completely justified. So
and none of those guys got serious punishments for that.
So this is a good change in the approach. It's
just the fact that guy wore a pink I mean, look, hey,
I'm a pink polo kind of guy myself. I'm not
(17:39):
throwing I'm not throwing sandwiches over the pink polo. I'm
just saying, if you're gonna throw the sandwich at the cop,
don't do it wearing a pig polo.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
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is going viral and we'll have some more fun with this,
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rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Lots of
reaction rolling into Pink Polo and his subway attack assault
on an officer, But I do think it's somewhat representative
of a certain left wing response to increase police officers
(19:16):
in DC. There are protests now that are developing against
police officers being able to protect people from being murdered,
and I just I look at this and I do
think buck, what Trump kind of is brilliantly exploiting in
some way is the disconnect from the people who are
(19:40):
the limousine liberal universe, as Rushwood call them, who typically
have their own private security, They have their own universe
that tends to be far safer, where the rules are
enforced and law is respected. And then most of those people,
by the way, live in Northwest d C, Which, for
those of you who don't know, is by the wealthiest
(20:01):
part of the Washington DC area. And then there's all
the other people who tend to live in southeast and
live in a lawless in many ways society, and they're
begging for help and Trump is giving it to them,
and the pink Polos of the world are furious that
there are police officers out on the streets. I do
(20:23):
think that that video that has gone megaviral is somewhat
evocative of that disconnect, because in general, I think it
represents like, if you have that level of disrespect for
a police officer, it's probably because you don't feel personally
threatened by violence. And that's the only reason I can
(20:45):
think of why you're screaming at a police officer standing
on the street trying to enforce the law. But I
do think that Joe Scarborough commentary and that video just
really kind of illustrate in a very quick manner what
Trump has pointed out, which is most people on the
left don't actually care about violence because it doesn't impact
(21:08):
their daily life.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, and they recognize that Republicans have staked out for
a long time now the position of we do need
to just enforce the law, We need to back police,
and we need to incarcerate people where none of this
stuff gets better and every time they're able to have
it their way or every time that experiment is wrong
with that in mind, things do get better, things do improve.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So we we.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Own this territory, so to speak, as Republicans and Democrats
don't want to seed ever that we are correct. It's subburn,
it's it's a bit of bitterness too thrown in there.
And as you say, it's because so many of these
people And it was like I was, I was taking
some shots at what was George will with the vote
tie the other day.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, it Chevy lives in Chevy Chase.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Chevy Chase is not is not DC DC, right, I
mean this is this is like people. There are areas
I've been to suburbs of Baltimore beautiful people have like farms,
and I mean it's lovely, you know, it's really nice.
That's not Baltimore, even if it's Baltimore County whatever, it is.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
So a lot of people I think that weigh in
on this stuff too, they say. As a New Yorker,
I'm particularly sensitive to this. People say, oh, you know,
I think New York is really safe, and like, where
do you live, Chappaquah, you don't know, you know nothing.
Where do you let Scarsdale? Yeah, I'm like, I'm I'm
Scarsdale safe. I'm not worried about Scarsdale, but you know,
(22:32):
go spend some time in the South. Bronxon, talk to
me about how safe the city is. Although New York
Manhattan is pretty safe for a large city, Boston, I believe,
is a good bit safer for a a sizable city.
So there's really substantial differences here when you look at it.
I was surprised Houston's actually got more of a crime.
(22:53):
You don't hear about it a lot. I was looking
at some of the stats Houston has a rougher time
with crime with side specifically and shootings that I had
to anticipate. It doesn't get a lot of news coverage.
But that was another city because obviously one of the
biggest cities in the country that came up that definitely
needs some help.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I think they have BORROWSDA or at least they used to.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
One of the challenges on the data is where I
live is Williamson County, right, I think south of Nashville.
I think I don't know, there's like three hundred thousand
people or something who live in my county. Basically it's Nashville.
There's a murder rate essentially here of zero. There might
have been one or two murders in the whole county
(23:32):
in a year. And so one of the challenges you
get into to be fair on some of this data
is some cities only count a certain part of the
city and it could be a big, sprawling metropolis. And
so I wonder on Houston, which is the fourth biggest
city in the country, right, it's a huge, sprawling metropolis.
That's why I think the New York data is so
(23:54):
interesting because New York City has what eight million people
who live in the five boroughs of New York City
if I'm not mistaken roughly, and you compare that eight
million with the seven hundred thousand or so that live
in d C, and DC per capita is out of control. Now,
some people would say, well, if you count Montgomery County
and you count Arlington and all the surrounding areas, d
(24:18):
C would look a lot less violent than it does
when you only count the District of Columbia by itself. So,
for instance, Shelby County where Memphis is, is insanely violent,
but if you counted all of the surrounding metropolitan area
of Memphis, it would dial back some of the violence
a little bit. So my point on that is sometimes
(24:39):
the data is an entirely illustrative of the full picture.
But I do think d C, which exists in this
unique world where it's just a federal district. To your point,
the George Wills of the world, they live just across
the border in Maryland and they're like, there is no
crime here. You're like, well, yeah, George, you probably haven't
been to Southeast DC in forty years, unless you count
(25:04):
going to the Washington Nationals. Like right on the edge.
I think of southeast a little bit is where the
baseball stadium is there. So it is in many ways
something that I think the elite, the wealthy of DC
just pretend doesn't exist because it doesn't come into their
universe very often. And remember this has been a big
(25:25):
issue in DC for a long time. They kept the
subway from going to Georgetown because they didn't want people
who were poor to have easy access to people who
were rich.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
In d C. It is a huge deal. They didn't
want the subway.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Anybody who's been there, you have to get out at
GW and walk up or you have to now take
obviously an uber or walk across the river from Virginia.
They tried to protect themselves from the lesser class who
couldn't afford their multimillion dollar Georgetown mansions. It is very interesting.
All those people vote left, all those people were combal
(26:02):
of voters, but boy, they really don't want violent crime
to have easy access to them, do they.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
And yet Georgetown does have its spillover of It's a
lot safer than other parts of the city, of course,
but there's stuff that happens in Georgetown that is that
you'd be shocked for this to occur. In the nicest
neighborhood of other cities. So look, Trump is right on this,
and Democrats can do whatever they want with this, with
(26:28):
the squawking and the and the screaming, and.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
They can they can throw a fit.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
At the end of the day, Trump has latched onto
yet another issue, has has put forward another program and
set of policies where anybody who is being honest about
it is saying, yeah, that that seems more, that seems sensible.
And they have already been doing a number of arrests.
They're taking dangerous people off the.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Off the streets.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
So I think that you might it's gonna say, it's
not gonna be a huge change in the crime data,
it will have a positive effect. Our subway assaulter is
was a Department of Justice employee.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And this is the kind I mean. This is what
Attorney General Pam Bondi tweeted just a little bit ago.
I just learned this defendant worked at the Department of
Justice no longer. Bondi said, in all caps, this is
an example of the deep state we have been up
against for seven months. As we work to refocus DJ,
you will not work in this administration while disrespecting our
(27:33):
government and law enforcement. And so this individual is named
I want to make sure I get his name, Sean
Charles Dunn, and he was a DOJ employee. But I
do think do you think that guy in DJ was
aggressively enforcing Trump DOJ policies? I bet that he was
(27:58):
a diehard commalist supporter. That's why he was screaming at
the judge and I mean screaming at the officer, and
why he felt like he could just pull back a
sub and throw it. Because to be fair, how many
times have you seen videos of police officers just taking
objects being pelted at these BLM protests for instance, nothing
(28:19):
ever happened. You just got guys standing there, water bottles
hitting them, all sorts of pepper spray sometimes. I mean, so,
I do think this is a change of policy. The
guy thought, hey, nothing's gonna happen to me. I'm just
gonna throw this at the officer, and you know it
is it is going to be interesting. That happened Sunday night,
Northwest DC and he was arrested Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Do we know what sparked the Sandwich confrontation.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
The report is that he was angry over too many
police officers and screaming at the police officers for standing around,
and that was what eventually led him. I mean, I
assume I watch this video and the way he ran, yeah,
that's my assumption. I mean, it doesn't look like something
that a sober guy would do. So I'm assuming the
(29:09):
guy whod been out somewhere probably had too many drinks,
was a leftist got angry at a police officer, thought
that there would be no consequences because there haven't been
really any consequences for leftists who do anything to police
officers for years. And as the kids say, f a
and now he's f owing.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yeah, I'm shocked that this guy would think that this
is going to go in any you know, doing this
at any point in time is unwise. To do it
right now given the focus on this nationalist is is
pretty crazy. But you know, there are people who believe
this stuff about how this is this is martial law
or the militarization of police, and this is part of
(29:52):
There are less of them now than there have been,
but there are still people out there who think that
Trump is about to declare himself like dictator for life,
and this is part of that move.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
So you can see this stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Online, but imagine working at the DOJ and think that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
This is the part of it that's really bizarre to me.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
And also not understanding or or being able to think
about the consequences in advance of assaulting a police officer
in the current environment like that when you work for
the Department of Justice. I mean, he would you would
hope that he would know that it is technically a
felony to physically assault the police officer who on duty.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I mean, you would think you would know that.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I think that this is an example of how you
have protected people for leftist political thought. I think he
thought that he was above the law, and I think
he has now found out that there's a lot so
many subway samwich jokes that you can make. But where
are you on side? So I really can't because of
(30:56):
Celiac disease. Unfortunately, I really can't experience the full glories
of the subway sandwich. Where are you on that? I
love subway, I eat there. I never I have never
had a subway sandwich that I can remember.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ever in your life. I like subway.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I like Jimmy John's, I like all of the you know,
you give me a sandwich with chips and a soda,
it's to me the perfect meal.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I understand. What is the best of the sandwich I get?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, I get either the meatball sub at Subway, which
I think is very good, or I get my tubs
my my sub toasted, and I get my favorite is
sweet onion chicken tarioki sub. So those are the two
my typical go to if I'm now I'm getting hungry.
And if Subway just got a huge advertisement from us
(31:45):
that they were never planning on thanks to that moron
throwing a Subway sandwich at the at the cop But
I'm a big fan. I like Subway. I think relatively speaking,
it's it's healthy. You know, they had that one guy
who lost a lot of money that I've lost a
lot of weight. Unfortunately he ended up being a pedophile.
I think, right well, that was an unexpected twist in
the in the weight loss story. But you know, I mean,
(32:08):
I do think that they do a good job of
letting you count calories, which is not necessarily very easy
in much of the fast food universe.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
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Speaker 5 (34:42):
Just I was feeling like, you know what, all right,
all right, so it's a little a little harder than
maybe I need to hit a little harder than that
video to get to where we need to be. None
other than Jim Jordan, who I believe is a state
champion wrestler. Clay has has weighed in on this one
to say that while he respects my technique and recognizes
that mister Buck has game, he thinks one hundred miles
(35:04):
an hour maybe just maybe just completely out out of reach.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
What I woke up this morning and early this morning,
I'm doing my prep. Jim Jordan text me, appreciate, but
we do really appreciate the number of congressman senators who
listen to the show when they're you know, running around,
driving around their districts everything else. A lot of them do.
Jim texting me listening to yesterday show. We all love Buck,
(35:31):
but I'm a no.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
So this is like a bless your heart text from
Jim Jordan. We all love fuck but yeah, we all
love Buck, but I'm a no.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I also appreciate I I was laughed when I saw
that because I'm thinking that that's probably how like Jim
sometimes has to text Mike Johnson, you know, and they're like, hey,
we got a close vote.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
We all love So I'm wondering.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
By the way, these speed guns have a plus or
minus of like three four miles an hour. I'm just wondering,
if we get up to like ninety six, ninety seven,
ninety eight, are people gonna still be throwing flags on
this one?
Speaker 9 (36:06):
You know?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
If the speed gun officially says ninety eight, am I
gonna have.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
People look, Oh, that's not one hundred. I mean, you know,
like we gotta be fair.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
People are saying sixty in the comments, Clay sixty, get
out of here, sixty.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
This is madness.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Laura Travis is sticking sticking to her guns. Happy anniversary,
by the way, to Laura Travis, twenty one years. She's
managed to stay with me, but she is convinced that
you can't hit one hundred miles an hour, set it
again this morning, so so she is going hard in
the paint there. Jim Jordan also got the back. We'll
see what happens next with Howard Kirks.
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