August 19, 2025 • 58 mins
What Happens Next?
A deep dive into the aftermath of a major White House meeting and President Trump’s efforts to broker peace between Ukraine and Russia. Clay and Buck analyze Trump’s comments about arranging a face-to-face meeting between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky, his assurance that there will be no U.S. boots on the ground, and the debate over what a security guarantee for Ukraine might entail. They explore whether this could include air support from Poland or other NATO allies, and discuss Trump’s possible motivation to secure a Nobel Peace Prize, raising concerns about whether a rushed ceasefire could lead to future conflicts.
The conversation then shifts to domestic issues, focusing on rising crime in Washington, D.C. and whether deploying more law enforcement and federal agents could dramatically reduce violent crime rates. Clay and Buck highlight the political stakes for Democrats if a surge in policing proves effective, noting that D.C.’s current murder rate mirrors New York City’s peak crime era in 1990. They argue that addressing crime is less about complexity and more about political will, warning that a successful crackdown could expose years of failed policies in Democrat-controlled cities.
Thanks, BLM
Clay and Buck zero in on President Trump’s aggressive plan to restore law and order in Washington, D.C., following his declaration that the city’s crime levels are unacceptable for the nation’s capital. The hosts detail Trump’s sweeping measures, including the removal of homeless encampments, deployment of National Guard troops, and a surge in federal and local law enforcement presence. Within just one week, the D.C. Police Union reports dramatic results: robberies down 46%, carjackings down 83%, car theft down 21%, and violent crime down 22%. Clay and Buck argue that these numbers prove what they’ve long maintained—crime is a matter of political will, not complexity.
The discussion expands to the political fallout of Trump’s crackdown, highlighting a surprising New York Times editorial admitting failures of the “defund the police” movement and acknowledging that progressive policies contributed to lawlessness in cities like San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland. The hosts contrast this with Trump’s results-driven approach, warning Democrats that if his strategy works in D.C., it could reshape the national conversation on crime. They also cite Maureen Dowd’s column cautioning Democrats that Trump is “100% right” on this issue, signaling a major shift in media tone.
Politics of Urban Despair
Listeners hear White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt announce that 465 arrests have been made since August 7, including violent offenders and an MS-13 gang member, as well as the removal of four more homeless encampments. Clay and Buck stress the broader implications: if Trump can cut D.C.’s crime rate in half, why can’t similar strategies be applied to other high-crime cities like Memphis, Chicago, and Philadelphia? They argue that focusing enforcement on the most dangerous neighborhoods, as New York City did in the 1990s, could dramatically improve public safety nationwide.
Clay and Buck tackle quality-of-life issues, from locked-up toothpaste in drugstores to the economic toll of urban crime. The hosts blast the failures of lenient bail policies and call for tougher sentencing for repeat offenders, reviving the debate over three-strikes laws. They emphasize that a small percentage of habitual criminals drive most violent crime, and removing them from the streets is key to restoring safety.
MO Sen. Eric Schmitt
Senator Eric Schmitt of Missouri, author of The Last Line of Defense: How to Beat the Left in Court, joined the show to share insights on fighting crime and restoring law and order. Schmitt details his successful Safer Streets Initiative, the failures of progressive prosecutors, and why the Trump administration’s renewed focus on U.S. Attorneys is critical for tackling violent crime in cities like St. Louis and Washington, D.C.
The conversation dives into Trump Derangement Syndrome, exposing why Democrats reflexively oppose popular policies such as protecting women’s sports, reducing violent crime, and securing the border. Schmitt also unpacks the weaponization of the DOJ, the unprecedented legal attacks on President Trump, and the censorship-industrial complex that targeted free speech during the pandemic. He calls for Section 230 reform, accountability for social media giants, and legal consequences for bureaucrats who suppress First Amendment rights.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off now and we are honored to have all
of you. Thanks for hanging out. And we have the
aftermath of the big White House showdown yesterday really more
of a more of a gathering showdown because you didn't
have Zelenski and Putin staring across the table at each other.
(00:49):
That may be in the works though in fact Trump
spoke to that. We will let you hear from the
presidents on that this morning called in Fox of Friends. Also,
the big big question, after some of the discussions yesterday,
does a security guarantee for Ukraine involve US troops in
any capacity. Trump has addressed that as I thought he would,
(01:14):
and I think it's something that you will all certainly
want to hear and be pleased with what his take
is on that. So we'll get into that some early
crime data out of DC that Clay is going to
hit you with in the either later this hour or
the next hour. But there's anyone to guess just up front,
before before Clay sheds light via statistics on what's happening
(01:38):
in DC with crime. Do you think if you put
more good guys with guns who are law enforcement, who
are federal agents on the streets of a place, will
there be more or less, fewer or more murders, fewer
or more robberies?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Just we'll all think this through for a second, and
then we'll get into the numbers, because I want us
to go through that exercise Clay. Democrats are going to
start acting shocked by all this, like, oh my gosh,
you mean to tell me that more cops enforcing the
law and present to arrest bad people from doing bad
things means there is less bad stuff that happens.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
This is shocking. Yeah, I want to dive into that.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Also, I will suggest that all of the coverage about
more police officers may also drive down the amount of
crime because the bad guys are maybe looking over their
shoulder a little bit more, or they're more cognizant of
the dangers that can be out there for them because
(02:46):
they're aware that this is now a priority. So I
would submit it's not even just the guys on the
streets arresting the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's letting the bad.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Guys know, hey, we're looking for you, and we got
a lot more people out than normal. Yes, there's the
additional deterrence factor of we have more people out there
and they are being politically supported in their law enforcement efforts.
You're not going to be able to pull out a
camera and look, I'm I'm not resisting while you're resisting, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Why are you? You know this is you.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
See all these videos of people who they refuse to
comply and they keep saying I'm complying while they're like
elbowing the cop in the face.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So yeah, enough of that. All. Speaking of that, did
you see the video of the I forget?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You know, different terms everywhere, but essentially the county prosecutor
from Massachusetts. The woman I don't even know this is.
Do you see this is going viral? Who's telling the
cop while she's super drunk and I'm a DA and
he's like, congrats for you or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah for you. Yeah, I know this.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I know this from cop friends of mine and from
just seeing things out in the real world.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think there are a few things that are more.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Likely to get you arrested by a cop than breaking
the law and acting like a jackass who's allowed to
break the law when the cop is like, you can't
do that. Like if I were a cop and someone
tells me, ooh effectively on above the law, I'm a DA,
It's like, well, now you're People try this with speeding tickets,
People try this with all kinds of things. Thank God
(04:13):
for body cameras, because the cops know. The cops know
that their actions are correct, they know that it's being recorded.
So all this bullying that you get from this female
DA who is just I think the Scottish would.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Say, blueter.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
She is just bombed out of her mind drinking whatever
it is she's drinking, and Clay this is the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's It's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
For cops because we can see what they actually do,
and therefore they can't be bullied by people who are
like I know your boss anyway. Oh and then one
other question I want to throw out there before we
get into the aftermath statements from Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Clay raised this.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I've thought about this many times myself, our friend Pete
Hegseth Secretary Defense out there in a video ladies. Sadly
he has a shirt on during it. But I just
I think Rfkjunior does not have his shirt on during it?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Right? Is that? Am I correct in that?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, no, he's got his shirt at least that I
got shut Yeah, okay, all right, Because because he does
like to work out without a shirt, we're aware of that.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But that's what that's a choice. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We all get that. Why does RFK Junior workout in jeans?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's diabolical. I'm not I'm not saying I'm some kind
of expert, clearly not. Okay, we've all we are. I'm
not saying, but jeans are not a comfortable thing to
work out in.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And a belt and it's a belt and a belt
jeans with a belt on like Incredible Hulk style, except
the jeans aren't all like broken from where I get
it from. You're campaigning and you're like, hey, let me
just wrap out twenty push ups to show what good
shape I'm in. It's not scheduled, but they had a
(05:47):
scheduled to work out and RFK rolled in in jeans
and a belt to do a push up and uh
and pull up challenge, and I just it's I think
it's diabolical.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I don't know what the thought process is.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Maybe the least comfortable outfit to work jeans like starchy, uncomfortable, wrangler,
Leviy's whatever it is, jeans and a belt like I
don't even like wearing belts for normal life. It's weird.
So why is he doing it? I'm just throwing this
out there. I know it's not important. Okay, we'll talk
about important stuff now, but it's just a fun thought.
(06:25):
Here's the important stuff. Trump on the Ukraine War first
of all, the two big takeaways, what comes next and
what's the status if there is an agreement of US
troops to guarantee security.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
This is cut one. Here's what Trump said.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Would you say they are ever going to be best friends?
But they're doing okay, and we're just gonna see. So
we're setting up a meeting. I sort of set it
up with Putin Anzelinsky, and you know, they're the ones
that have to call the shots where we're seven thousand
miles away, you know, fairness, you know we have we
spent through the previous administration three one hundred and fifty
Vidian Europe has spent a lot also one hundred million.
(07:03):
But it should be reversed if we should have been
in for anything, but it wouldn't have happened, So that
would have been much better, because so many people that
this is the biggest this is the biggest bad situation
since World War Two. There's been nothing even close.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Clay, He's getting them to sit down, and this process
is unfolding in a way where you're seeing who wants
there to be, who is rooting for peace, and who
cares more about a temporary setback for Trump's legacy than
stopping mass death and carnage in Europe.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Look, I don't think you can criticize Trump for anything
he is doing trying to stop the fighting in Ukraine. Now,
as we talked about yesterday, I think you're in a
tough spot where Russia is demanding territory, and Ukraine is
demanding that they never have to be in this situation again.
(07:59):
And I don't any way that Ukraine agrees to any
of this without substantial security guarantees, because they've already been
screwed on security guarantees before, and so I think it's
going to put us into a tough spot now, I
think Trump, and this is what I was gonna mention.
I didn't mention it yesterday. For all of the criticism
(08:22):
out there about Trump, I think he desperately wants to
win the Nobel Peace Prize. I think he does. And
my only concern about that, which is a very incredibly
defensible goal that's fabulous, is could his pursuit of the
(08:44):
Nobel Peace Prize, which is the exact opposite of all
of his critics who say, oh, he's going to start
in World War three, He's Adolph Hitler, could his pursuit
of the Nobel Peace Prize make him accept a cease
fire peace agreement that is actually not in the best
interest of the larger world. That's my only concern at
(09:08):
this point about I think Trump wants peace so badly
that he may be willing to give the benefit of
the doubt to Vladimir Putin about his future aggressions after
Trump is gone, because I do think once this war
is stopped, I don't think Vladimir Putin is going to
do anything while Trump is still in office. But I
(09:29):
think Putin can play the long game because he may
be in power for another twenty years and Trump is
going to be gone in three and a half. Another
very important follow up play was on the issue of
US troops as a guarantee of security, that being either
a US base there, which would be the most extreme
(09:50):
I think version of the guarantee, something like what we
have in South Korea, or even the promise by some
binding treaty or agreement, obligation whatever, that the US will
be the cavalry coming over the hill if Russia were
to invade after a deal had been agreed to. Here
is what Trump says about this play.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
For what kind of assurances do you feel like you
have that going forward?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And you know, past.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
This Trump administration, it won't be American boots on the
ground defending that border.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
The way you have my assurance, and I'm president and
I'm just trying to stop people from being killed. Charlie,
look they're losing from five to seven thousand people a week.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So he's pretty clear from what I understand Cloud, it's
not going to be US boots on the ground in Ukraine. Yes,
But to be fair to Trump, I think Trump basically
has all options on the table, and I think all
(10:56):
those options on the table could include some variation of
what is the security guarantee going to look like for
the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The thing his words here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
He goes, you have my assurance, because the way the
question has set up is obviously concerned about US troops.
He goes, you have my assurance, and I'm President, I'm
just trying to stop people from being killed. I want
to that that kind of leaves some open territory on that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Actually that is not as Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And also boots on the ground, what does that mean
you have my assurance? In response to that question, it's
not as clear. When I read through the transcript a
second time and go hold on second, Well, not only that,
I mean boots on the ground doesn't mean you couldn't
have airplanes taking off from a bordering country to provide
some sort of aerial support, right, I mean, what we're
not going to have boots on the ground. But what
(11:45):
if we have fifty fighter jets in Poland that can
be at the line of defense in six minutes, right,
I mean they're not technically boots on the ground, but
air support from Poland or any other country that would
kind of surround there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So I think Trump.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It would be a Turkey shoot of the Russian Air
Force if US actually decided that they were going to
really dig in. I mean, they've got some advanced planes.
Our stuff is way better. But so I think the
phrasing that they chose there is very interesting. What I
said yesterday was I think you could have a front
line of Ukrainian troops.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think you could have a.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Supportive peacekeeping line of European troops. And then what if
the United States rings even more soldiers just off the
perimeter outside of the territory of Ukraine, but where we
could scramble as that third line of defense instantaneously in
the event that we needed to. I think you're going
(12:45):
to see a lot of play in the joints, so
to speak, about allowing Putin to potentially feel like he
got a victory, allowing Ukraine to feel like they got
a victory, and again My concern is that Trump wants
peace to such an extent it's the exact opposite of
all the criticism against him, that he could agree to
(13:07):
a deal that doesn't have a lot of teeth and
sets us up for five years from now to be
in the same position we're in now. I would also
I would point out that Zelenski and Putin sitting down,
which he has said clearly, that that is in process,
and that's the next step. That's the next phase. You
got to get them to at least agree roughly on
(13:27):
what the territory swaps or territory lines would look like.
The security guarantee could come after that, right, I mean,
this is this is like a phased process of you
need them to at least be able to say, Okay,
these would be the lines. The security guarantee is the
enforcement mechanism for the lines. And so that that I
think is a conversation that can Now that doesn't mean
(13:50):
that Putin obviously won't agree to the lines on the
map if there's going to be a security guarantee that
he finds too threatening or whatever. But I do think
it's it's one and then the other. I also want
to point out that I checked just to be sure.
RFK Junior is doing lunges in jeans Clay even more psycho,
(14:11):
lunge even more psycho.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I mean, there's gotta be chafing going on like lunges.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Just that makes me, that makes me actually feel uncomfortable
to think about working out in jeans and a belt
like I unless again, you're like on the construction crew
and suddenly there's a challenge about how many burpies you
can do? You know, like again to be does it
getting dressed to go to the gym and that includes
putting on I think he's got boots of boots on too, yes, yes, yeah, no,
(14:39):
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Speaker 1 (15:42):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Tuesday edition of the program and again continuing
to follow yesterday's big events with Zolensky and all all
of the leaders of Europe visiting the White House. But
(16:06):
an ongoing story that began last week if I remember correctly,
on Monday, just eight days ago, the President of the
United States decided the level of violence in Washington, d
C is unacceptable for a capital city, and given the
fact that much of the decision making for Washington, d
(16:28):
C is under federal control. Trump has set about a
massive rehabilitation of Washington, d C. And one of the
things that he has done that has already I think
been significant is he said We're not going to let
people just put up tents and sleep in property all
(16:50):
over Washington, d C. And I went up two years ago.
I think it was to visit Washington, d C. A
city that I I lived in for four years in college,
and a city that Buck lived in for multiple years
as well, so we actually have decent ideas of what
Washington DC is like, can be.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like, and should be like.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And I was blown away by the number of homeless
encampments that had been allowed to occur in parks throughout
the city. And I don't mean somebody is sleeping in them.
I mean somebody basically is saying this is my permanent home.
And I know, Buck, you saw a lot of these
(17:36):
homeless encampments and it kind of rocked and was ridiculous
to you too, because I'm not claiming DC was perfect
when either you or I lived there, but it was
a city where you couldn't just decide, Hey, in the
middle of this park, I'm going to put up a
tent and this is my home now, and I'm going
(17:57):
to permanently live here. I'm not saying homeless people didn't exist,
but you just didn't have these homeless encampments. So one
of the first things Trump did is Supreme Court has
basically given states and cities the ability to clean homeless
encampments up. And in fact, the new mayor of San
Francisco I was reading the other day, has basically said
we're done with this in San Francisco. But Trump came
(18:20):
through almost immediately and tore down all of these homeless encampments,
swept everything up and said no longer. We're going to
beautify the community. So that was one step. But here
is the DC Police Union. They shared this yesterday. One
week of increased federal attention in DC, they have brought
(18:43):
in National Guard troops from all over the place. They
have been arresting people. Listen to these numbers DC crime
since the announcement of federal control versus the seven days prior.
This is from the DC Police. Robbery down forty six percent,
(19:04):
carjackings down eighty three percent, car theft down twenty one percent,
violent crime down twenty two percent. In the one week
that we have seen a surge of police on the streets. Overwhelmingly,
(19:26):
the numbers have been moving in a very positive direction.
A couple of other things here, Buck, Maureene Dowd, who
probably is the most famous columnist at the New York Times.
I think maybe Thomas Friedman. Maureene Dowd has been there
a long time. She lives in Washington, DC. She shared
her sister story about her sister's car getting stolen and
(19:50):
how common it was in Washington, DC. And she actually
said Democrats have to be careful because Trump can be imperfect,
but he's basically a h hundred percent right on this.
And I thought, to her credit, I mean, that was
an interesting column that I read on Sunday. I also
saw this in the Sunday New York Times. And I
(20:10):
don't know if you saw this, Buck, but it kind
of blew my mind. This is the New York Times
lead editorial. This is the newspaper talking about crime. The
second lesson involves the importance of law enforcement. During the
twenty twenty protest, many progressives embrace calls to defund the police,
(20:33):
and some prominent Democrats, including Kamala Harris, AOC and Mayor
Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles supported the defund movement, but
police funding. Nonetheless, the protester seemed to have an effect.
Some officers, disheartened quit their jobs. And it continues and
(20:53):
it says, and I thought I was taking crazy pills. Basically,
this was an unacceptable position to have, that it was
unacceptable for this argument to be out there. They also
they also said, hey, COVID shutdowns were a disaster. It
basically sounded like Clay and Buck four years ago. But
(21:16):
it is interesting how the Democrat conversation on this story
has changed. Well, it's one of these areas where whatever
the numbers may be, and there's even a lot of
pushback going on right now from Trump and his team
about whether the numbers are honest. When it comes to
crime in DC, people know what they've experienced, and people
(21:37):
know what they're dealing with, and you've had It reminds
me a little of the remember the required genuflection during
COVID from people when they would say I've come down
with COVID. You know, some like thirty five year old
staffer at Politico would tweet out.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I've come down with COVID and and I'm gonna be okay,
but I just want to say I'm thankful that I
am vaccinated, and boom, it's like, oh, you're thankful that
you got a vaccine and got sick anyway, And you
know this was the You tell these things, you remind
yourselves of these things now and it feels like it's
not real. There were some of this clay with DC's
(22:15):
really safe. I've lived here for five years. I've only
been mugged once, only I had one car stolen, only
had you know, three incidents where people threatened to like
stab me in the street.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But other than that in five years, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Listen to this from the New York Times editorial. I
felt like I was taking crazy pills on Sunday again.
I read it so all of you don't have to,
but listen to what they wrote. This is the newspaper.
This is not one random guest editorial. This is what
the newspaper said. Virtually all sides in the defund the
police debate made mistakes. Among the most damaging was the
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growing belief among Democrat officials that enforcing the law could
be counterproductive when it involved low level offenses such as
public drug use, shoplifting, and homeless encampments. Some Democrats believed
enforcement of these laws disproportionately hurt minority groups and did
not contribute much to public safety. This argument never made
(23:15):
much sense, especially given polls showed strong support for basic
law enforcement across racial and income groups. Listen to this buck,
and the real world results were miserable. Parts of San Francisco, Seattle,
Portland and other cities came to feel lawless, with people
defecating and shooting up in public, and store owners locking
(23:39):
up items to reduce theft or simply closing their shops.
The defund movement is considered a failure, and many of
its old backers have distanced themselves, and it just continues
with even says with crimes starting to fall, there's a
risk public officials will become complacent. Democrat leaders in particular
(24:02):
should remember the lessons. I mean, I've read all this
and I thought this sounds like our radio show. I
mean to specifically be pointing out San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle,
where I know a lot of you out there are
listening to us right now and rip the Democrats to
shreds on defund the police. Now, it wasn't that long
(24:23):
ago that even saying all these things, they would say, Oh,
you're racist, or oh you don't have any idea what
you're talking about. Now, suddenly, with Trump in office, Democrats,
some of them, at least their allies in the New
York Times, are willing to acknowledge that they blew it
and that they created these awful scenarios. And again, what
(24:44):
if what Trump is doing actually works in DC? That's
what they're terrified of. That's the real story here. I
think they're terrified. Additionally, not maybe quite as much, but
it would be bad. You see the headline of the
Washington Post right now breaking news. Justice Department probes whether
DC police manipulated data to make crime rates uppear lower.
(25:08):
So you have the Trump goodj saying, show me these
numbers again, because a big part of the you can't
do that, Trump, and it's not even worth doing that
because crime rates are down so much from the last year.
Oh really, does anyone really think that crime rate should
suddenly drop thirty percent in DC for no apparent reason.
(25:30):
That's what we're supposed to believe. There was no special initiative,
there was no crackdown, There was no change from the prosecutors.
Crime rates, violent and major crimes are down a third
from a year ago, and they're still too high, which
isn't that interesting Even if that were true, the crime
rate is still too high. But Clay, what happens if
it's clear that the books were cooked here by DC,
(25:53):
you know, additionally to everything else we're talking about, Because
I think there's a very real chance that that's what
we find out here. Does the stat DC today is
as bad as New York City in nineteen ninety stun you,
because I think for people who live in New York City,
that is a crystallizing Holy crap. Imagine in nineteen ninety
if people in New York City had said, oh, everything's perfect,
(26:14):
everything's fine, That's basically what they're trying to say about
d C. And right now it's levels. Right now, DC
crime is at the levels of the worst in New
York City before Giuliani even came into office, before they
declined the homicide rate by ninety percent, That is where
DC is on a per capita basis, is where New
(26:36):
York City was in nineteen ninety. Yeah, and you know,
you look at places that had the BLM murder spike,
which is what happened. Yes, nice work, BLM. A lot
of murders going up all over the country. That's with
that movement that democrats and CNN pundits and assorted liberal
millionaires were all, Oh, it's a Kamala Harris, big BLM supporter,
(26:57):
big BLM fan, You know a lot of let's have
as many rates riots and anti police mayhem as possible
in the streets of America during a during a pandemic,
no less, but clay Chicago had about eight hundred homicides
that year.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Eight hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Chicago's a quarter the size of New York City. You
have thirty two one hundred murders in Chicago if it
were New York City size per capita. When you start
to extrapolate, when you start to expand out what these
data sets are telling you the same thing. I think
there was a year recently where Philadelphia had something like
six hundred murders, which was the all time high for
(27:33):
its You know again, I can't. You guys are very fastidious.
What was the thing that I got wrong? Just a
moment ago, Oh, I said the da from Massachusetts and
all the Bostonians and all the Massachusetts listeners were like,
that's Rhode Island. Buck Rhode Island. Don't put that on us.
So apparently that DA was from Rhode Island who went
crazy at the cops. But back to our numbers here, Clay,
(27:55):
you're looking at a crime rate in DC today that's
so bad that it would mirror the crime rate in
New York City when residents said we're fed up, we
can't take this anymore. Takes whatever it takes, and that's
what Giuliani stepped into and did whatever it takes. So
the fact that the liberal intelligentsia, for the most part,
(28:16):
some of them realize this is a losing issue for them,
are saying DC's safe. I've only been mugged five times,
had two cars stolen, been punched in the face twice.
You know, in the last three years. It hasn't been
that bad. They really It's like they have Stockholm syndrome
or something. It's like that the criminal class in DC
has somehow managed to get the Politico and Washington Post
(28:41):
writers of America to think that they deserve to get
beat up and robbed.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And also to just lie.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I mean, the other thing here is most of the
arrest I think forty eight percent of them are happening
in ward seven and eight. I believe it is of
DC where the violent crime rates are the most significant,
which suggests some of the lessons of what they did
in New York City to make it far safer, which
is focus where the crime is the worst, because the
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
Caroline Levitt is having a White House press conference right now,
and we started off this hour giving you some of
the data on Washington, DC crime, and I thought I
would let you hear it from Caroline Levitt herself.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Here is cut thirty six.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
President Trump's efforts to make DC safe again are working.
There have been a total of four hundred and sixty
five arrests since the start of this operation. On Thursday,
August seventh. Last night, there were a total of fifty
two arrests, including the arrest of an illegal alien MS
thirteen gang member with convictions for DWI and drug possession.
(31:24):
Thanks to President Trump's leadership in the outstanding work of
both federal and local law enforcement, dangerous gang members like
the one picked up last night will not be allowed
on the streets of our nation's capital. Other arrests last
night included assault with a deadly weapon for stabbing, parole
violation for robbery murder, outstanding warrant for attempted murder, assault
(31:45):
on federal law enforcement officer, and felony assault. Four more
homeless encampments were also removed during yesterday's reporting period.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
How can anyone be opposed to any of this, I mean,
other than your flexively Trump is Hitler stupidity, right, because Trump,
as we said earlier, is trying to win the Nobel
Peace Prize by ending as many different wars as possible.
How can anyone with a functional and rational brain here
(32:14):
everything that Caroline Levitt just said. Four hundred and sixty
five arrests, you heard, many of them for violent acts,
and four hundred and sixty five arrest DC I believe
has a population of around seven hundred thousand, so that's
not an insubstantial portion of the overall population. I remember
we've talked about it. How many hard and fast criminals
do you think live in DC? One thousand, twenty five hundred.
(32:40):
It's a few thousand, and yeah. This is where I
mean a couple of things. One is the the Democrats
have underestimated that the attitude about illegals in this country
who commit crimes is you're getting in trouble with the
law and you're not even supposed to be here. Like
that is completely unacceptable, right, yes, this is and any
other country.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Could you imagine if what do you think would happen?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Uh, you know, if you were in Japan as as
an illegal, not even there as a as a visitor
on a visa or.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Something, and you committed a crime, you think they'd be like,
you know what we're gonna do. Let's keep this guy around.
Let's let's keep him around for a bit.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Let's not send him back to his home country that's
actually responsible for him and that he is, uh, and
that has sovereignty over him legally, So so that that's
one part of it. And then the other part is
that you you don't actually have to lock up that
many people to have a huge effect on crime, because
it is serious criminals who are repeat offenders, who are
(33:35):
the overwhelming problem in these major cities. These known gang
members who are out, you know, they on an attempted
murder beef. They're out after you know, five years or something,
and now they're back out there and now they're robbing
people again, and they haven't gotten Remember, people don't get
caught for every crime they commit.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's another part of this too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
The notion that someone is let's say, carjacking a person,
you think that that's the first crime that person's committed.
You think the car jacker is like, you know what,
I was going to go for a walk in the
park today, but instead I'm going to use an illegal handgun,
hold it up at someone's head, threaten to murder them
and take their vehicle. No, they've been doing all kinds
of crimes that aren't even listed in the statistics up
(34:16):
to that point, maybe even aren't reported up to that point.
So to your point, Clay, if you take a couple
thousand people in DC and a lot of other places,
by the way, a couple thousand people and lock them up,
everybody's a lot safer. And I also think this ties
in with quality of life. You and I when we
were in New York City. I think it was a
couple of years ago. I think you had to buy
(34:36):
like toothpaste or something. Oh I had were shined by
that was in my not to interrupt you, that was
my actual drug store that I used to go to
all the time to get, you know, toothpaste and whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
That was where I lived.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I could not believe when I walked in there and
I was just back up in New York City when
I guest hosted what Fox and Friends in March, I
think I had to go get shaving cream because I
had forgotten it. I had to ask somebody to come
unlock the shaving cream for me. And why do I
mention that these are major quality of life things that
(35:10):
make you feel like you're living under siege. When you
can't walk into a grocery store and buy shaving cream,
or you can't buy a toothpaste without somebody having to
unlock it, it's a sign that we have had society collapse.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm sorry, it just is.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And a lot of you know that feeling where you
walk in and you think where am I living? That
every single product in the entire CBS or Walgreens or
whatever it is is under lock and key. And let
me say this, I live in obviously many most of
you guys know, Nashville Tennessee area. Memphis down the road
(35:48):
west from where I am has one of the highest
rates of violent crime anywhere in the world. It's unacceptable
if Trump is able to lower the rate of violent
crime in d C. I would be very supportive of
the governor of Tennessee saying we're marshaling all resources and
(36:10):
putting them to work in Memphis to lower the crime
rate there.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And we're going to.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Use as as sort of a road map what Trump
did in DC.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Why would we not do this everywhere?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You know, this is there's a question why we would
not do it everywhere. With Clay also showing that it
can be done, establishes a new baseline going forward, because
what you have in a lot of places is essentially
a politics of urban despair.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You know, crime happens, you know, and this attitude has
to be this way.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
D C has been, you know, crappy when it comes
to crime for as long as you and I have
been alive. Okay, yes we're getting old now. DC has
been a mess for going on fifty years or more.
And there are other cities in Detroit, other cities that
come to mind too, that have just been these holes
of crime, and.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And when people really see that in a way that
the media has to cover, it changes the whole conversation
going forward, because then it's not what do we do
we don't know? No, it's do you want this to
go away or not? Do you want the problems to
be fixed or do you want the problems to endure?
And how are you voting? Who are you putting in
(37:24):
power to deal with this? It becomes a choice instead
of apathy or despair. And that's why I think it's
so important, in addition to what you're talking about, which
is just the tactical replication which will happen in other cities. Yeah,
and look, and the reason why I mentioned, you know,
DC as a potential roadmap, as a temple potential example.
I live in a red state. We have a red governor,
(37:47):
we have red senators. Eight of the nine congressmen are Republicans.
But Memphis has blue city leadership, and that leadership has failed.
New York Times just told you the leadership failed in
San Francisco in Seattle, in Portland. If the New York
Times is mentioning that that is true, then there is
(38:08):
no real argument to the other side. I mean, they're
the left wing Bible right now, So why I mean,
I just mean this honestly. I'm not the governor of Tennessee,
you know, but if I were, I would be looking
at what's going on in Washington, d C. And I
would be thinking, why can't we solve this mess in
Memphis once and for all in the same way that
(38:29):
Trump is going after the mess in DC. Let's assume
that Tennesseeans make a very wise move and put our
friends Senator Blackburn in the governor's mansion going forward, right, Yeah,
for example, there's somebody who has governor I think would
work hand in glove with federal resources from the Trump
administration to make Memphis a success story.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Memphis should be. Look.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I haven't been there, but I actually thought at one
point about investing in the city of Memphis some years ago.
So I did some research on investing in property there.
I didn't end up doing it. The crime was a
big crime, was a big problem because it affects property
values around the city.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
But it should be awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
It's you know, it's on the river there. It's got
a vibrant downtown, obviously, incredible music scene, great food. Memphis
should be a great city. The fact that when the
first thing a lot of people, at least outside of Memphis,
maybe inside, I don't know, think about when it comes
to that city now nationally as wow, there's a lot
of shootings there, which is just that's heartbreaking because it
should be a great town and it has everything there
to be a great town. And you know, ninety nine
(39:31):
percent of the people who live there would make it
a great town if it was just up to them,
But there's one percent that need to be taken off
the streets. I will give you two good examples of
what you just said. My son, one of my sons,
had a sporting event in Memphis. I think I've said
this on the air before, but it was in March.
(39:52):
We went and stayed in a hotel because he had
an all day sporting event going on in Memphis area.
The next day, I forgot my cell phone charger and
I was thinking, well, I don't want my phone to die.
I'm going to go buy a new cell phone charger
at a gas station. I went down to the front desk,
and you've had this happen. You talked about it in
Saint Louis. The front desk clerk said, be careful. Said,
it's eight o'clock on a Friday night, and you're telling
(40:16):
me to be careful going to a gas station to
buy a charger. No one in America should have that. Now,
if it's three am, four am, I still think you
should be safe. But I understands you're out super late
eight o'clock on a random Friday night in Memphis. Be
careful going to buy a charger unacceptable. Another part of
(40:40):
this when I grew up in Nashville, and most states
have examples of this. Two big cities they have kind
of a rivalry. You know, Dallas and Houston have a rivalry.
Nashville and Memphis have a rivalry. Tampa and Miami have rivalries,
and Jacksonville and Orlando, like all these different cities right
inside the states, there's kind of like a little bit
(41:00):
of a rivalry. We had a real rivalry when I
was a kid, Nashville or Memphis, which is the better city.
I haven't heard that argument in fifteen years. Even when
I started in media, you could occasionally still have fun locally,
you know, kind of gigging people about that rivalry, which
is a good natured rivalry. I haven't had that heard
(41:21):
that argument made in almost a generation now because Nashville
made rational mayoral choices mostly now you can question some
of the recent ones, but made rational choices and just
left Memphis in the rear view. And there isn't a
comparison between those two cities. In fact, many of you
listening in Memphis right now have friends and family that
(41:42):
finally got fed up with the crime and said, I
can't raise my family here.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
It's too dangerous.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
This is a real issue, and it's as if we
just say, oh, there's nothing that can be done. My
question for everybody is, what if Trump's right like he
was on the border. Everybody said, oh, the border can't
be fixed, it's impoutant. Now border's most secure it's ever
been in any of our lives. What if Trump makes
DC crime drop by fifty percent? Suddenly you have to
(42:10):
start having conversations about why can't we solve some of
these problems that we claim are unsolvable. I think it's
just a will issue, not an ability issue, and so
I think this is super, super interesting, and I am
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Speaker 2 (44:07):
Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds like
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Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Well, that's an understatement.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase
their sway in the global financial order.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
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Speaker 1 (44:49):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
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ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Third hour of clay
In Buck kicks off. Now we're joined by Senator Eric
Schmidt of the great State of Missouri. He's also got
a new book out, The Last Line of Defense Had
to Beat the Left in Court. It is out today.
Senator Schmidt, thanks for being here with.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Using me up with you guys.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Let's talk a little bit if we can about law enforcement,
because you were the attorney general in your state of Missouri. Now,
Saint Louis has had a crime problem for quite some time,
and I'm sure that was a focus of some of
your efforts at the state level. If you had the
rit the support, the backing of the federal government, whatever
(46:32):
could be brought to bear Trump administration saying let's clean
up crime in Saint Louis and we'll give you whatever
resources you need at the federal level to do it.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Could you do it? What would change? How would it work?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Well?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I think one thing is you'd get some of the
cederal law enforcement officials out of Washington, d C. And
get them out into the country. I think Cash Hoatill's
talked about this, and I think senior leadership and Department
Justice just talked about this. So there's just too many. Honestly,
those folks are in DC and are not helping, you know,
take out the bad guys across the country. Sadly, they
were spending a lot of their time. And we talk
(47:06):
about it in the book Last Line of Defense, in
the censorship effort, Russia Gate, all this nonsense, all the
man hour has been wrapped up in this political you know,
weaponization of the DOJ as opposed to fighting crime. The
other thing is one of one of the things that
we did when I was an Attorney General is relatively
what was unprecedent at the time. We created something called
the Safer Streets Initihip, where we had Deputy Attorney generals
(47:28):
in our office deputized as assistant US attorneys. So we
added to the capacity of prosecuting federal crime. When you
have let's just say, you have a prosecutor in Saint
Louis and she's gone, but Kim Gardner was a Soros
back prosecutor. If they don't want to do their job.
Then we worked with the US attorneys to go take
on carjackings and things like that. So it's a really
a successful program. When Biden came in, ironically, he scrapped
(47:51):
the program because he just, you know, this just was
not their focus. So I'm glad President Trump's in there.
I'm glad you know he's getting his US attorneys. That's
going to be kind of next up when we get
back at these US attorneys in place across the country,
and I think that'll help.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Are you stunned that Democrats seem unable to break the
reflexive opposition to anything Trump says, even when he says
things that are super super popular with most normal people
in the country. Keep men out of women's sports, let's
have less violent crime in Washington, d C. Hey, I'm
(48:26):
trying to do whatever I can to stop people from
getting killed in Ukraine in the war there. All of
these things don't seem particularly political to me. Yet Democrats
have so brought into Trump is hitler, Trump is going
to start World War three, whatever negative you want to
associate it with it that they seem unable to acknowledge
(48:46):
that he actually has a lot of good ideas.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, I think it's less political at play and it's
more psychological at this point.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, it truly is.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
It truly is a psychosis and Trump arrangment syndrome is real,
and it manifests itself in just some crazy ways. I mean,
you gave a couple of examples. They're already actually taking
criminals off the streets in Washington, DC. Knjacktings have been
up five hundred plus percent in five years. Clearly something
needs to be done, but they don't want them to
do it. You've got it president who's has the confidence
(49:16):
and the strength to actually try to broker a deal
to end the bloodiest war in Europe since World War Two,
and they just tried to undercut him at every turn.
And I think the classic example, which is why I
don't think they've hit rock bottom yet, is this issue
of illegal immigration. I mean, they cannot help themselves. Chris
van Holland goes to El Salvador and has Margarita's with
(49:37):
an MS thirteen member because they hate Trump so much.
It's bizarre. But I think they've got a couple more
election cycles in them where they're going to continue to
lose before they wake up, and this is just no
longer the party of Ferry Truman or even Bill Clinton.
This has been captured by the radical left.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Now, you were part of some of the battles, legal
battles that well, the forces of constitutionalism and the rule
of law, but also Republicans and Trump supporters were involved
in recent years.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
I know that's something you deal with in the book.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
How should we view the fact that they brought four
criminal cases against a president. They held those prosecutions specifically
so they would occur in an election year. I mean,
on the one hand, Senator, it's well, Trump is president
and all's well, that ends well. But on the other hand,
that is a shocking precedent breach betrayal, I would say,
(50:34):
of the American people's trust, and they actually did it.
I feel like we're still processing that that happened because
it happened so recently.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yeah, And one of the reasons why I wrote last
line of sense, which you can get on Amazon right now,
is there is a tendency guys. I think too now
that that we're past the fever dream, the fever broke.
I think in November twenty twenty four of this kind
of crazy, woke Don sense and the lawfair that was
brought against President Trump to throw them in jail for
the rest of his life. There's a tendency to kind
(51:02):
of gloss all that over, But you got to remember
the dark days. And I was on your show talking
about this was why I think your audience really liked
the book. This was a time of lockdowns, some pulsory
COVID shots, open borders, DEI struggle, sessions, ESD requirements, and
a censorship enterprise so vast that the Biden administration instituted
(51:22):
that was the biggest affront of the First Amendment in
American history. This is all just like in a four
year period of time where they opened up the floodgates
on all this and we had to push back. And
so while President Trump was out of power, we were
able to kind of hold the line on a lot
of this for the cavalry to arise in November of
last year. It did arrive, and President Trump finished this,
you know, epic historic comeback. And we're talking about all
(51:43):
the good things that Clay you just mentioned. They're happening
that Democrats are still opposed to. But there's a lot
of important lessons learned. I mean, whether it was. You know,
we took that vaccine mandate case, always from court, we won.
We took the Missouri took the student on def forgiveness case,
always from court, we won. I sued fifty plus school
districts in Missouri for their forced mass bandates. We won.
We had the censorship case. And what that shows and
(52:05):
what the story is so important. It's kind of behind
the scenes. Look at what was it like to take
the depol of Anthony Fauci, What was it like to
take the deposition of Elvis Chan at the FBI, who
was pre bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story. We did
all that. The point is you've got to have courage.
It's a lot easier to just go to ribbon cuttings
or just kind of walk along than it is. We've
got to stand up and fight. And President Trump, I
(52:25):
think has transformed the Republican Party now, certainly from the
one that I grew up in into much more not
just a working class party, but a party that's just
not going to lie down. We're going to stand up,
We're going to fight back, and if we do it,
we can actually win. So the book is kind of
a playbook on how we did it then, and how
we can do it moving forward.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Okay, I love everything that's happening now. I think most
people out there listening do as well. Here's my concern,
and you know this better than anybody, because you were
involved in so many of these lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
All of a.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Sudden, it's acceptable to say, Hey, we believe in the
marketplace of ideas. Hey, we shouldn't be rigging the algorithm.
Hey we shouldn't be artificially inserting ourselves into the public
discourse and manipulating the results. Yet twenty twenty one, every
social media company in America banned Donald Trump from getting
(53:16):
on I like the joke because it kind of brings
it home. Pinterest banned Donald Trump Pinterest like he couldn't
share his scrap book collages for people out there. How
do we stop this from happening when Trump isn't in
office and may ensure that what we are doing now
(53:37):
is going to extend into the future no matter who
the president happens to be.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Well, a couple of things. One is I think there
has to be accountability for some of these actions. I
think the most ivant out at about this. I think
you can draw a straight line like ironically Obama has
has immunity because of the case that that was brought
against President Trump presidential media, right, But Clapper doesn't, Brennan doesn't,
Comy doesn't. And if you can prove beyond this, you
(54:04):
have a statue limitation issues. But you don't if there's
a conspiracy, and it was an ongoing conspiracy, because if
you like the fuse and a conspiracy, whatever happens a
mile down the road, you're still responsible for. And these
guys knew it was fake, they knew it was BS.
They laundered that stupid stile dossier into an actual intelligence report,
and they tried to not only Acuba, tried to sideline
(54:26):
an entire first term of a president. And then of
course that was the impetus for all of the Oh,
this is Russian disinformation, This is Russian misinformation. Everything was
about Russian. This, Russian that, even though it was all
BS and so I don't think we should just forget
about that. I think there have to be repercussions. And
as far as like social media companies, you guys know this,
it's a good thing that they have something called Section
(54:48):
two thirty protections, meaning they're a platform, not a publisher,
meaning they're not legally responsible if somebody has, you know,
an opinion that you disagree with on that platform. That's
good for free speech, but you don't get to have
it both ways. You don't get the multi billion dollar
subsidy of being a platform where you can't be sued,
but then also try to manipulate what's on your platform
in an editorial like decision. So I think they got
(55:10):
to pick, and if they picked the wrong one, then
you're a publisher. You don't have the protections. I also
think a reform that will be important that I talk
about in the book two is these individual bureaucrats. If
you're engaged in suppressing somebody's First Amendment rights, you individually
ought to be able to be sued. There ought to
be an individual right of an action for an American
citizen to sue you for suppressing your speech about, you know,
(55:31):
questioning masks and how they work for kids or not.
That would change the kind of risk dynamic that currently
works because these, as you guys know, the beercrafts, aren't
accountable to anybody. We need to start making them accountable
to real people. So there's a few things that we
can do. But I you know what we saw guys
in that four year period in particular, if that was
going on somewhere else, like you know, the law fair
(55:51):
and the censorship and all this mass migration and all
this stuff that is being used with tax fair dollars
to fund, you know, we would be the State Department
would be warning America and citizens about that place. But
that was happening here. And again, the story of the
last line of offense that you can get on Amazon
now is about standing up, pushing back. If you do it,
if you got the courage, that you can win. And
(56:12):
this is a playbook of how conservatives moving forward can
fight and win in the courts, which we've always kind
of resisted because we thought that was their terrain.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Okay, procedurally, you're an expert on this. Democrats have a
huge advantage in DC because they have basically a ninety
five percent approval rating in DC, they can get any
indictment they want.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
How do you deal.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
With that if you're talking about bringing conspiracy charges. I
don't need like a law review analysis style, but just
for me and people out there who have a general
sense that this is a problem, how do you rectify that?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Well, once you have a conspiracy moving forward, it doesn't
just exist exclusively in Washington, DC. It emanates out. So
for example, and I'm just using this at ventially as
an example, but let's just say that the raid at
Mar A Lago was really about getting documents back that
they thought President Trump had is related to the Steele dossier.
(57:10):
I'm just throwing out a scenario, yeahespathetically. Of course, if
that were the case, You've got Southern Florida's where you
can issue indictments. Because again, remember if Jack Smith is
using a phony intelligence report that was generated by Brennan
and Kobe and Clapper, like they begin in the conspiracy process,
and he's furthering the conspiracy in South Florida. Again, the
(57:32):
jurisdiction that you can kind of work in gets much broader,
and I think that's one area that they might look at.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Senator appreciates you being with us, and just want to
tell everybody one last time. Go check out the book
which is out today, The Senator's new book, Very important,
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beat the Left in court. Appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
All right, guys, take care, Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off now and we are honored to have all
of you. Thanks for hanging out. And we have the
aftermath of the big White House showdown yesterday really more
of a more of a gathering showdown because you didn't
have Zelenski and Putin staring across the table at each other.
(00:49):
That may be in the works though in fact Trump
spoke to that. We will let you hear from the
presidents on that this morning called in Fox of Friends. Also,
the big big question, after some of the discussions yesterday,
does a security guarantee for Ukraine involve US troops in
any capacity. Trump has addressed that as I thought he would,
(01:14):
and I think it's something that you will all certainly
want to hear and be pleased with what his take
is on that. So we'll get into that some early
crime data out of DC that Clay is going to
hit you with in the either later this hour or
the next hour. But there's anyone to guess just up front,
before before Clay sheds light via statistics on what's happening
(01:38):
in DC with crime. Do you think if you put
more good guys with guns who are law enforcement, who
are federal agents on the streets of a place, will
there be more or less, fewer or more murders, fewer
or more robberies?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Just we'll all think this through for a second, and
then we'll get into the numbers, because I want us
to go through that exercise Clay. Democrats are going to
start acting shocked by all this, like, oh my gosh,
you mean to tell me that more cops enforcing the
law and present to arrest bad people from doing bad
things means there is less bad stuff that happens.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
This is shocking. Yeah, I want to dive into that.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Also, I will suggest that all of the coverage about
more police officers may also drive down the amount of
crime because the bad guys are maybe looking over their
shoulder a little bit more, or they're more cognizant of
the dangers that can be out there for them because
(02:46):
they're aware that this is now a priority. So I
would submit it's not even just the guys on the
streets arresting the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's letting the bad.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Guys know, hey, we're looking for you, and we got
a lot more people out than normal. Yes, there's the
additional deterrence factor of we have more people out there
and they are being politically supported in their law enforcement efforts.
You're not going to be able to pull out a
camera and look, I'm I'm not resisting while you're resisting, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Why are you? You know this is you.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
See all these videos of people who they refuse to
comply and they keep saying I'm complying while they're like
elbowing the cop in the face.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So yeah, enough of that. All. Speaking of that, did
you see the video of the I forget?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You know, different terms everywhere, but essentially the county prosecutor
from Massachusetts. The woman I don't even know this is.
Do you see this is going viral? Who's telling the
cop while she's super drunk and I'm a DA and
he's like, congrats for you or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah for you. Yeah, I know this.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I know this from cop friends of mine and from
just seeing things out in the real world.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think there are a few things that are more.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Likely to get you arrested by a cop than breaking
the law and acting like a jackass who's allowed to
break the law when the cop is like, you can't
do that. Like if I were a cop and someone
tells me, ooh effectively on above the law, I'm a DA,
It's like, well, now you're People try this with speeding tickets,
People try this with all kinds of things. Thank God
(04:13):
for body cameras, because the cops know. The cops know
that their actions are correct, they know that it's being recorded.
So all this bullying that you get from this female
DA who is just I think the Scottish would.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Say, blueter.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
She is just bombed out of her mind drinking whatever
it is she's drinking, and Clay this is the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's It's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
For cops because we can see what they actually do,
and therefore they can't be bullied by people who are
like I know your boss anyway. Oh and then one
other question I want to throw out there before we
get into the aftermath statements from Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Clay raised this.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I've thought about this many times myself, our friend Pete
Hegseth Secretary Defense out there in a video ladies. Sadly
he has a shirt on during it. But I just
I think Rfkjunior does not have his shirt on during it?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Right? Is that? Am I correct in that?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, no, he's got his shirt at least that I
got shut Yeah, okay, all right, Because because he does
like to work out without a shirt, we're aware of that.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But that's what that's a choice. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We all get that. Why does RFK Junior workout in jeans?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's diabolical. I'm not I'm not saying I'm some kind
of expert, clearly not. Okay, we've all we are. I'm
not saying, but jeans are not a comfortable thing to
work out in.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And a belt and it's a belt and a belt
jeans with a belt on like Incredible Hulk style, except
the jeans aren't all like broken from where I get
it from. You're campaigning and you're like, hey, let me
just wrap out twenty push ups to show what good
shape I'm in. It's not scheduled, but they had a
(05:47):
scheduled to work out and RFK rolled in in jeans
and a belt to do a push up and uh
and pull up challenge, and I just it's I think
it's diabolical.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I don't know what the thought process is.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Maybe the least comfortable outfit to work jeans like starchy, uncomfortable, wrangler,
Leviy's whatever it is, jeans and a belt like I
don't even like wearing belts for normal life. It's weird.
So why is he doing it? I'm just throwing this
out there. I know it's not important. Okay, we'll talk
about important stuff now, but it's just a fun thought.
(06:25):
Here's the important stuff. Trump on the Ukraine War first
of all, the two big takeaways, what comes next and
what's the status if there is an agreement of US
troops to guarantee security.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
This is cut one. Here's what Trump said.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Would you say they are ever going to be best friends?
But they're doing okay, and we're just gonna see. So
we're setting up a meeting. I sort of set it
up with Putin Anzelinsky, and you know, they're the ones
that have to call the shots where we're seven thousand
miles away, you know, fairness, you know we have we
spent through the previous administration three one hundred and fifty
Vidian Europe has spent a lot also one hundred million.
(07:03):
But it should be reversed if we should have been
in for anything, but it wouldn't have happened, So that
would have been much better, because so many people that
this is the biggest this is the biggest bad situation
since World War Two. There's been nothing even close.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Clay, He's getting them to sit down, and this process
is unfolding in a way where you're seeing who wants
there to be, who is rooting for peace, and who
cares more about a temporary setback for Trump's legacy than
stopping mass death and carnage in Europe.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Look, I don't think you can criticize Trump for anything
he is doing trying to stop the fighting in Ukraine. Now,
as we talked about yesterday, I think you're in a
tough spot where Russia is demanding territory, and Ukraine is
demanding that they never have to be in this situation again.
(07:59):
And I don't any way that Ukraine agrees to any
of this without substantial security guarantees, because they've already been
screwed on security guarantees before, and so I think it's
going to put us into a tough spot now, I
think Trump, and this is what I was gonna mention.
I didn't mention it yesterday. For all of the criticism
(08:22):
out there about Trump, I think he desperately wants to
win the Nobel Peace Prize. I think he does. And
my only concern about that, which is a very incredibly
defensible goal that's fabulous, is could his pursuit of the
(08:44):
Nobel Peace Prize, which is the exact opposite of all
of his critics who say, oh, he's going to start
in World War three, He's Adolph Hitler, could his pursuit
of the Nobel Peace Prize make him accept a cease
fire peace agreement that is actually not in the best
interest of the larger world. That's my only concern at
(09:08):
this point about I think Trump wants peace so badly
that he may be willing to give the benefit of
the doubt to Vladimir Putin about his future aggressions after
Trump is gone, because I do think once this war
is stopped, I don't think Vladimir Putin is going to
do anything while Trump is still in office. But I
(09:29):
think Putin can play the long game because he may
be in power for another twenty years and Trump is
going to be gone in three and a half. Another
very important follow up play was on the issue of
US troops as a guarantee of security, that being either
a US base there, which would be the most extreme
(09:50):
I think version of the guarantee, something like what we
have in South Korea, or even the promise by some
binding treaty or agreement, obligation whatever, that the US will
be the cavalry coming over the hill if Russia were
to invade after a deal had been agreed to. Here
is what Trump says about this play.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
For what kind of assurances do you feel like you
have that going forward?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And you know, past.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
This Trump administration, it won't be American boots on the
ground defending that border.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
The way you have my assurance, and I'm president and
I'm just trying to stop people from being killed. Charlie,
look they're losing from five to seven thousand people a week.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So he's pretty clear from what I understand Cloud, it's
not going to be US boots on the ground in Ukraine. Yes,
But to be fair to Trump, I think Trump basically
has all options on the table, and I think all
(10:56):
those options on the table could include some variation of
what is the security guarantee going to look like for
the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The thing his words here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
He goes, you have my assurance, because the way the
question has set up is obviously concerned about US troops.
He goes, you have my assurance, and I'm President, I'm
just trying to stop people from being killed. I want
to that that kind of leaves some open territory on that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Actually that is not as Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And also boots on the ground, what does that mean
you have my assurance? In response to that question, it's
not as clear. When I read through the transcript a
second time and go hold on second, Well, not only that,
I mean boots on the ground doesn't mean you couldn't
have airplanes taking off from a bordering country to provide
some sort of aerial support, right, I mean, what we're
not going to have boots on the ground. But what
(11:45):
if we have fifty fighter jets in Poland that can
be at the line of defense in six minutes, right,
I mean they're not technically boots on the ground, but
air support from Poland or any other country that would
kind of surround there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So I think Trump.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It would be a Turkey shoot of the Russian Air
Force if US actually decided that they were going to
really dig in. I mean, they've got some advanced planes.
Our stuff is way better. But so I think the
phrasing that they chose there is very interesting. What I
said yesterday was I think you could have a front
line of Ukrainian troops.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think you could have a.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Supportive peacekeeping line of European troops. And then what if
the United States rings even more soldiers just off the
perimeter outside of the territory of Ukraine, but where we
could scramble as that third line of defense instantaneously in
the event that we needed to. I think you're going
(12:45):
to see a lot of play in the joints, so
to speak, about allowing Putin to potentially feel like he
got a victory, allowing Ukraine to feel like they got
a victory, and again My concern is that Trump wants
peace to such an extent it's the exact opposite of
all the criticism against him, that he could agree to
(13:07):
a deal that doesn't have a lot of teeth and
sets us up for five years from now to be
in the same position we're in now. I would also
I would point out that Zelenski and Putin sitting down,
which he has said clearly, that that is in process,
and that's the next step. That's the next phase. You
got to get them to at least agree roughly on
(13:27):
what the territory swaps or territory lines would look like.
The security guarantee could come after that, right, I mean,
this is this is like a phased process of you
need them to at least be able to say, Okay,
these would be the lines. The security guarantee is the
enforcement mechanism for the lines. And so that that I
think is a conversation that can Now that doesn't mean
(13:50):
that Putin obviously won't agree to the lines on the
map if there's going to be a security guarantee that
he finds too threatening or whatever. But I do think
it's it's one and then the other. I also want
to point out that I checked just to be sure.
RFK Junior is doing lunges in jeans Clay even more psycho,
(14:11):
lunge even more psycho.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I mean, there's gotta be chafing going on like lunges.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Just that makes me, that makes me actually feel uncomfortable
to think about working out in jeans and a belt
like I unless again, you're like on the construction crew
and suddenly there's a challenge about how many burpies you
can do? You know, like again to be does it
getting dressed to go to the gym and that includes
putting on I think he's got boots of boots on too, yes, yes, yeah, no,
(14:39):
he's dressed like he's on a construction site so that
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Speaker 1 (15:42):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Tuesday edition of the program and again continuing
to follow yesterday's big events with Zolensky and all all
of the leaders of Europe visiting the White House. But
(16:06):
an ongoing story that began last week if I remember correctly,
on Monday, just eight days ago, the President of the
United States decided the level of violence in Washington, d
C is unacceptable for a capital city, and given the
fact that much of the decision making for Washington, d
(16:28):
C is under federal control. Trump has set about a
massive rehabilitation of Washington, d C. And one of the
things that he has done that has already I think
been significant is he said We're not going to let
people just put up tents and sleep in property all
(16:50):
over Washington, d C. And I went up two years ago.
I think it was to visit Washington, d C. A
city that I I lived in for four years in college,
and a city that Buck lived in for multiple years
as well, so we actually have decent ideas of what
Washington DC is like, can be.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like, and should be like.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And I was blown away by the number of homeless
encampments that had been allowed to occur in parks throughout
the city. And I don't mean somebody is sleeping in them.
I mean somebody basically is saying this is my permanent home.
And I know, Buck, you saw a lot of these
(17:36):
homeless encampments and it kind of rocked and was ridiculous
to you too, because I'm not claiming DC was perfect
when either you or I lived there, but it was
a city where you couldn't just decide, Hey, in the
middle of this park, I'm going to put up a
tent and this is my home now, and I'm going
(17:57):
to permanently live here. I'm not saying homeless people didn't exist,
but you just didn't have these homeless encampments. So one
of the first things Trump did is Supreme Court has
basically given states and cities the ability to clean homeless
encampments up. And in fact, the new mayor of San
Francisco I was reading the other day, has basically said
we're done with this in San Francisco. But Trump came
(18:20):
through almost immediately and tore down all of these homeless encampments,
swept everything up and said no longer. We're going to
beautify the community. So that was one step. But here
is the DC Police Union. They shared this yesterday. One
week of increased federal attention in DC, they have brought
(18:43):
in National Guard troops from all over the place. They
have been arresting people. Listen to these numbers DC crime
since the announcement of federal control versus the seven days prior.
This is from the DC Police. Robbery down forty six percent,
(19:04):
carjackings down eighty three percent, car theft down twenty one percent,
violent crime down twenty two percent. In the one week
that we have seen a surge of police on the streets. Overwhelmingly,
(19:26):
the numbers have been moving in a very positive direction.
A couple of other things here, Buck, Maureene Dowd, who
probably is the most famous columnist at the New York Times.
I think maybe Thomas Friedman. Maureene Dowd has been there
a long time. She lives in Washington, DC. She shared
her sister story about her sister's car getting stolen and
(19:50):
how common it was in Washington, DC. And she actually
said Democrats have to be careful because Trump can be imperfect,
but he's basically a h hundred percent right on this.
And I thought, to her credit, I mean, that was
an interesting column that I read on Sunday. I also
saw this in the Sunday New York Times. And I
(20:10):
don't know if you saw this, Buck, but it kind
of blew my mind. This is the New York Times
lead editorial. This is the newspaper talking about crime. The
second lesson involves the importance of law enforcement. During the
twenty twenty protest, many progressives embrace calls to defund the police,
(20:33):
and some prominent Democrats, including Kamala Harris, AOC and Mayor
Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles supported the defund movement, but
police funding. Nonetheless, the protester seemed to have an effect.
Some officers, disheartened quit their jobs. And it continues and
(20:53):
it says, and I thought I was taking crazy pills. Basically,
this was an unacceptable position to have, that it was
unacceptable for this argument to be out there. They also
they also said, hey, COVID shutdowns were a disaster. It
basically sounded like Clay and Buck four years ago. But
(21:16):
it is interesting how the Democrat conversation on this story
has changed. Well, it's one of these areas where whatever
the numbers may be, and there's even a lot of
pushback going on right now from Trump and his team
about whether the numbers are honest. When it comes to
crime in DC, people know what they've experienced, and people
(21:37):
know what they're dealing with, and you've had It reminds
me a little of the remember the required genuflection during
COVID from people when they would say I've come down
with COVID. You know, some like thirty five year old
staffer at Politico would tweet out.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I've come down with COVID and and I'm gonna be okay,
but I just want to say I'm thankful that I
am vaccinated, and boom, it's like, oh, you're thankful that
you got a vaccine and got sick anyway, And you
know this was the You tell these things, you remind
yourselves of these things now and it feels like it's
not real. There were some of this clay with DC's
(22:15):
really safe. I've lived here for five years. I've only
been mugged once, only I had one car stolen, only
had you know, three incidents where people threatened to like
stab me in the street.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But other than that in five years, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Listen to this from the New York Times editorial. I
felt like I was taking crazy pills on Sunday again.
I read it so all of you don't have to,
but listen to what they wrote. This is the newspaper.
This is not one random guest editorial. This is what
the newspaper said. Virtually all sides in the defund the
police debate made mistakes. Among the most damaging was the
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growing belief among Democrat officials that enforcing the law could
be counterproductive when it involved low level offenses such as
public drug use, shoplifting, and homeless encampments. Some Democrats believed
enforcement of these laws disproportionately hurt minority groups and did
not contribute much to public safety. This argument never made
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much sense, especially given polls showed strong support for basic
law enforcement across racial and income groups. Listen to this buck,
and the real world results were miserable. Parts of San Francisco, Seattle,
Portland and other cities came to feel lawless, with people
defecating and shooting up in public, and store owners locking
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up items to reduce theft or simply closing their shops.
The defund movement is considered a failure, and many of
its old backers have distanced themselves, and it just continues
with even says with crimes starting to fall, there's a
risk public officials will become complacent. Democrat leaders in particular
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should remember the lessons. I mean, I've read all this
and I thought this sounds like our radio show. I
mean to specifically be pointing out San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle,
where I know a lot of you out there are
listening to us right now and rip the Democrats to
shreds on defund the police. Now, it wasn't that long
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ago that even saying all these things, they would say, Oh,
you're racist, or oh you don't have any idea what
you're talking about. Now, suddenly, with Trump in office, Democrats,
some of them, at least their allies in the New
York Times, are willing to acknowledge that they blew it
and that they created these awful scenarios. And again, what
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if what Trump is doing actually works in DC? That's
what they're terrified of. That's the real story here. I
think they're terrified. Additionally, not maybe quite as much, but
it would be bad. You see the headline of the
Washington Post right now breaking news. Justice Department probes whether
DC police manipulated data to make crime rates uppear lower.
(25:08):
So you have the Trump goodj saying, show me these
numbers again, because a big part of the you can't
do that, Trump, and it's not even worth doing that
because crime rates are down so much from the last year.
Oh really, does anyone really think that crime rate should
suddenly drop thirty percent in DC for no apparent reason.
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That's what we're supposed to believe. There was no special initiative,
there was no crackdown, There was no change from the prosecutors.
Crime rates, violent and major crimes are down a third
from a year ago, and they're still too high, which
isn't that interesting Even if that were true, the crime
rate is still too high. But Clay, what happens if
it's clear that the books were cooked here by DC,
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you know, additionally to everything else we're talking about, Because
I think there's a very real chance that that's what
we find out here. Does the stat DC today is
as bad as New York City in nineteen ninety stun you,
because I think for people who live in New York City,
that is a crystallizing Holy crap. Imagine in nineteen ninety
if people in New York City had said, oh, everything's perfect,
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everything's fine, That's basically what they're trying to say about
d C. And right now it's levels. Right now, DC
crime is at the levels of the worst in New
York City before Giuliani even came into office, before they
declined the homicide rate by ninety percent, That is where
DC is on a per capita basis, is where New
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York City was in nineteen ninety. Yeah, and you know,
you look at places that had the BLM murder spike,
which is what happened. Yes, nice work, BLM. A lot
of murders going up all over the country. That's with
that movement that democrats and CNN pundits and assorted liberal
millionaires were all, Oh, it's a Kamala Harris, big BLM supporter,
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big BLM fan, You know a lot of let's have
as many rates riots and anti police mayhem as possible
in the streets of America during a during a pandemic,
no less, but clay Chicago had about eight hundred homicides
that year.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Eight hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Chicago's a quarter the size of New York City. You
have thirty two one hundred murders in Chicago if it
were New York City size per capita. When you start
to extrapolate, when you start to expand out what these
data sets are telling you the same thing. I think
there was a year recently where Philadelphia had something like
six hundred murders, which was the all time high for
(27:33):
its You know again, I can't. You guys are very fastidious.
What was the thing that I got wrong? Just a
moment ago, Oh, I said the da from Massachusetts and
all the Bostonians and all the Massachusetts listeners were like,
that's Rhode Island. Buck Rhode Island. Don't put that on us.
So apparently that DA was from Rhode Island who went
crazy at the cops. But back to our numbers here, Clay,
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you're looking at a crime rate in DC today that's
so bad that it would mirror the crime rate in
New York City when residents said we're fed up, we
can't take this anymore. Takes whatever it takes, and that's
what Giuliani stepped into and did whatever it takes. So
the fact that the liberal intelligentsia, for the most part,
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some of them realize this is a losing issue for them,
are saying DC's safe. I've only been mugged five times,
had two cars stolen, been punched in the face twice.
You know, in the last three years. It hasn't been
that bad. They really It's like they have Stockholm syndrome
or something. It's like that the criminal class in DC
has somehow managed to get the Politico and Washington Post
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writers of America to think that they deserve to get
beat up and robbed.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And also to just lie.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I mean, the other thing here is most of the
arrest I think forty eight percent of them are happening
in ward seven and eight. I believe it is of
DC where the violent crime rates are the most significant,
which suggests some of the lessons of what they did
in New York City to make it far safer, which
is focus where the crime is the worst, because the
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
Caroline Levitt is having a White House press conference right now,
and we started off this hour giving you some of
the data on Washington, DC crime, and I thought I
would let you hear it from Caroline Levitt herself.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Here is cut thirty six.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
President Trump's efforts to make DC safe again are working.
There have been a total of four hundred and sixty
five arrests since the start of this operation. On Thursday,
August seventh. Last night, there were a total of fifty
two arrests, including the arrest of an illegal alien MS
thirteen gang member with convictions for DWI and drug possession.
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Thanks to President Trump's leadership in the outstanding work of
both federal and local law enforcement, dangerous gang members like
the one picked up last night will not be allowed
on the streets of our nation's capital. Other arrests last
night included assault with a deadly weapon for stabbing, parole
violation for robbery murder, outstanding warrant for attempted murder, assault
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on federal law enforcement officer, and felony assault. Four more
homeless encampments were also removed during yesterday's reporting period.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
How can anyone be opposed to any of this, I mean,
other than your flexively Trump is Hitler stupidity, right, because Trump,
as we said earlier, is trying to win the Nobel
Peace Prize by ending as many different wars as possible.
How can anyone with a functional and rational brain here
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everything that Caroline Levitt just said. Four hundred and sixty
five arrests, you heard, many of them for violent acts,
and four hundred and sixty five arrest DC I believe
has a population of around seven hundred thousand, so that's
not an insubstantial portion of the overall population. I remember
we've talked about it. How many hard and fast criminals
do you think live in DC? One thousand, twenty five hundred.
(32:40):
It's a few thousand, and yeah. This is where I
mean a couple of things. One is the the Democrats
have underestimated that the attitude about illegals in this country
who commit crimes is you're getting in trouble with the
law and you're not even supposed to be here. Like
that is completely unacceptable, right, yes, this is and any
other country.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Could you imagine if what do you think would happen?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Uh, you know, if you were in Japan as as
an illegal, not even there as a as a visitor
on a visa or.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Something, and you committed a crime, you think they'd be like,
you know what we're gonna do. Let's keep this guy around.
Let's let's keep him around for a bit.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Let's not send him back to his home country that's
actually responsible for him and that he is, uh, and
that has sovereignty over him legally, So so that that's
one part of it. And then the other part is
that you you don't actually have to lock up that
many people to have a huge effect on crime, because
it is serious criminals who are repeat offenders, who are
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the overwhelming problem in these major cities. These known gang
members who are out, you know, they on an attempted
murder beef. They're out after you know, five years or something,
and now they're back out there and now they're robbing
people again, and they haven't gotten Remember, people don't get
caught for every crime they commit.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's another part of this too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
The notion that someone is let's say, carjacking a person,
you think that that's the first crime that person's committed.
You think the car jacker is like, you know what,
I was going to go for a walk in the
park today, but instead I'm going to use an illegal handgun,
hold it up at someone's head, threaten to murder them
and take their vehicle. No, they've been doing all kinds
of crimes that aren't even listed in the statistics up
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to that point, maybe even aren't reported up to that point.
So to your point, Clay, if you take a couple
thousand people in DC and a lot of other places,
by the way, a couple thousand people and lock them up,
everybody's a lot safer. And I also think this ties
in with quality of life. You and I when we
were in New York City. I think it was a
couple of years ago. I think you had to buy
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like toothpaste or something. Oh I had were shined by
that was in my not to interrupt you, that was
my actual drug store that I used to go to
all the time to get, you know, toothpaste and whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
That was where I lived.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I could not believe when I walked in there and
I was just back up in New York City when
I guest hosted what Fox and Friends in March, I
think I had to go get shaving cream because I
had forgotten it. I had to ask somebody to come
unlock the shaving cream for me. And why do I
mention that these are major quality of life things that
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make you feel like you're living under siege. When you
can't walk into a grocery store and buy shaving cream,
or you can't buy a toothpaste without somebody having to
unlock it, it's a sign that we have had society collapse.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm sorry, it just is.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And a lot of you know that feeling where you
walk in and you think where am I living? That
every single product in the entire CBS or Walgreens or
whatever it is is under lock and key. And let
me say this, I live in obviously many most of
you guys know, Nashville Tennessee area. Memphis down the road
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west from where I am has one of the highest
rates of violent crime anywhere in the world. It's unacceptable
if Trump is able to lower the rate of violent
crime in d C. I would be very supportive of
the governor of Tennessee saying we're marshaling all resources and
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putting them to work in Memphis to lower the crime
rate there.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And we're going to.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Use as as sort of a road map what Trump
did in DC.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Why would we not do this everywhere?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You know, this is there's a question why we would
not do it everywhere. With Clay also showing that it
can be done, establishes a new baseline going forward, because
what you have in a lot of places is essentially
a politics of urban despair.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You know, crime happens, you know, and this attitude has
to be this way.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
D C has been, you know, crappy when it comes
to crime for as long as you and I have
been alive. Okay, yes we're getting old now. DC has
been a mess for going on fifty years or more.
And there are other cities in Detroit, other cities that
come to mind too, that have just been these holes
of crime, and.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And when people really see that in a way that
the media has to cover, it changes the whole conversation
going forward, because then it's not what do we do
we don't know? No, it's do you want this to
go away or not? Do you want the problems to
be fixed or do you want the problems to endure?
And how are you voting? Who are you putting in
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power to deal with this? It becomes a choice instead
of apathy or despair. And that's why I think it's
so important, in addition to what you're talking about, which
is just the tactical replication which will happen in other cities. Yeah,
and look, and the reason why I mentioned, you know,
DC as a potential roadmap, as a temple potential example.
I live in a red state. We have a red governor,
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we have red senators. Eight of the nine congressmen are Republicans.
But Memphis has blue city leadership, and that leadership has failed.
New York Times just told you the leadership failed in
San Francisco in Seattle, in Portland. If the New York
Times is mentioning that that is true, then there is
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no real argument to the other side. I mean, they're
the left wing Bible right now, So why I mean,
I just mean this honestly. I'm not the governor of Tennessee,
you know, but if I were, I would be looking
at what's going on in Washington, d C. And I
would be thinking, why can't we solve this mess in
Memphis once and for all in the same way that
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Trump is going after the mess in DC. Let's assume
that Tennesseeans make a very wise move and put our
friends Senator Blackburn in the governor's mansion going forward, right, Yeah,
for example, there's somebody who has governor I think would
work hand in glove with federal resources from the Trump
administration to make Memphis a success story.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Memphis should be. Look.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I haven't been there, but I actually thought at one
point about investing in the city of Memphis some years ago.
So I did some research on investing in property there.
I didn't end up doing it. The crime was a
big crime, was a big problem because it affects property
values around the city.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
But it should be awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
It's you know, it's on the river there. It's got
a vibrant downtown, obviously, incredible music scene, great food. Memphis
should be a great city. The fact that when the
first thing a lot of people, at least outside of Memphis,
maybe inside, I don't know, think about when it comes
to that city now nationally as wow, there's a lot
of shootings there, which is just that's heartbreaking because it
should be a great town and it has everything there
to be a great town. And you know, ninety nine
(39:31):
percent of the people who live there would make it
a great town if it was just up to them,
But there's one percent that need to be taken off
the streets. I will give you two good examples of
what you just said. My son, one of my sons,
had a sporting event in Memphis. I think I've said
this on the air before, but it was in March.
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We went and stayed in a hotel because he had
an all day sporting event going on in Memphis area.
The next day, I forgot my cell phone charger and
I was thinking, well, I don't want my phone to die.
I'm going to go buy a new cell phone charger
at a gas station. I went down to the front desk,
and you've had this happen. You talked about it in
Saint Louis. The front desk clerk said, be careful. Said,
it's eight o'clock on a Friday night, and you're telling
(40:16):
me to be careful going to a gas station to
buy a charger. No one in America should have that. Now,
if it's three am, four am, I still think you
should be safe. But I understands you're out super late
eight o'clock on a random Friday night in Memphis. Be
careful going to buy a charger unacceptable. Another part of
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this when I grew up in Nashville, and most states
have examples of this. Two big cities they have kind
of a rivalry. You know, Dallas and Houston have a rivalry.
Nashville and Memphis have a rivalry. Tampa and Miami have rivalries,
and Jacksonville and Orlando, like all these different cities right
inside the states, there's kind of like a little bit
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of a rivalry. We had a real rivalry when I
was a kid, Nashville or Memphis, which is the better city.
I haven't heard that argument in fifteen years. Even when
I started in media, you could occasionally still have fun locally,
you know, kind of gigging people about that rivalry, which
is a good natured rivalry. I haven't had that heard
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that argument made in almost a generation now because Nashville
made rational mayoral choices mostly now you can question some
of the recent ones, but made rational choices and just
left Memphis in the rear view. And there isn't a
comparison between those two cities. In fact, many of you
listening in Memphis right now have friends and family that
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finally got fed up with the crime and said, I
can't raise my family here.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
It's too dangerous.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
This is a real issue, and it's as if we
just say, oh, there's nothing that can be done. My
question for everybody is, what if Trump's right like he
was on the border. Everybody said, oh, the border can't
be fixed, it's impoutant. Now border's most secure it's ever
been in any of our lives. What if Trump makes
DC crime drop by fifty percent? Suddenly you have to
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start having conversations about why can't we solve some of
these problems that we claim are unsolvable. I think it's
just a will issue, not an ability issue, and so
I think this is super, super interesting, and I am
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Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds like
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Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Well, that's an understatement.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase
their sway in the global financial order.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
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In Buck kicks off. Now we're joined by Senator Eric
Schmidt of the great State of Missouri. He's also got
a new book out, The Last Line of Defense Had
to Beat the Left in Court. It is out today.
Senator Schmidt, thanks for being here with.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Using me up with you guys.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Let's talk a little bit if we can about law enforcement,
because you were the attorney general in your state of Missouri. Now,
Saint Louis has had a crime problem for quite some time,
and I'm sure that was a focus of some of
your efforts at the state level. If you had the
rit the support, the backing of the federal government, whatever
(46:32):
could be brought to bear Trump administration saying let's clean
up crime in Saint Louis and we'll give you whatever
resources you need at the federal level to do it.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Could you do it? What would change? How would it work?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Well?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I think one thing is you'd get some of the
cederal law enforcement officials out of Washington, d C. And
get them out into the country. I think Cash Hoatill's
talked about this, and I think senior leadership and Department
Justice just talked about this. So there's just too many. Honestly,
those folks are in DC and are not helping, you know,
take out the bad guys across the country. Sadly, they
were spending a lot of their time. And we talk
(47:06):
about it in the book Last Line of Defense, in
the censorship effort, Russia Gate, all this nonsense, all the
man hour has been wrapped up in this political you know,
weaponization of the DOJ as opposed to fighting crime. The
other thing is one of one of the things that
we did when I was an Attorney General is relatively
what was unprecedent at the time. We created something called
the Safer Streets Initihip, where we had Deputy Attorney generals
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in our office deputized as assistant US attorneys. So we
added to the capacity of prosecuting federal crime. When you
have let's just say, you have a prosecutor in Saint
Louis and she's gone, but Kim Gardner was a Soros
back prosecutor. If they don't want to do their job.
Then we worked with the US attorneys to go take
on carjackings and things like that. So it's a really
a successful program. When Biden came in, ironically, he scrapped
(47:51):
the program because he just, you know, this just was
not their focus. So I'm glad President Trump's in there.
I'm glad you know he's getting his US attorneys. That's
going to be kind of next up when we get
back at these US attorneys in place across the country,
and I think that'll help.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Are you stunned that Democrats seem unable to break the
reflexive opposition to anything Trump says, even when he says
things that are super super popular with most normal people
in the country. Keep men out of women's sports, let's
have less violent crime in Washington, d C. Hey, I'm
(48:26):
trying to do whatever I can to stop people from
getting killed in Ukraine in the war there. All of
these things don't seem particularly political to me. Yet Democrats
have so brought into Trump is hitler, Trump is going
to start World War three, whatever negative you want to
associate it with it that they seem unable to acknowledge
(48:46):
that he actually has a lot of good ideas.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, I think it's less political at play and it's
more psychological at this point.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, it truly is.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
It truly is a psychosis and Trump arrangment syndrome is real,
and it manifests itself in just some crazy ways. I mean,
you gave a couple of examples. They're already actually taking
criminals off the streets in Washington, DC. Knjacktings have been
up five hundred plus percent in five years. Clearly something
needs to be done, but they don't want them to
do it. You've got it president who's has the confidence
(49:16):
and the strength to actually try to broker a deal
to end the bloodiest war in Europe since World War Two,
and they just tried to undercut him at every turn.
And I think the classic example, which is why I
don't think they've hit rock bottom yet, is this issue
of illegal immigration. I mean, they cannot help themselves. Chris
van Holland goes to El Salvador and has Margarita's with
(49:37):
an MS thirteen member because they hate Trump so much.
It's bizarre. But I think they've got a couple more
election cycles in them where they're going to continue to
lose before they wake up, and this is just no
longer the party of Ferry Truman or even Bill Clinton.
This has been captured by the radical left.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Now, you were part of some of the battles, legal
battles that well, the forces of constitutionalism and the rule
of law, but also Republicans and Trump supporters were involved
in recent years.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
I know that's something you deal with in the book.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
How should we view the fact that they brought four
criminal cases against a president. They held those prosecutions specifically
so they would occur in an election year. I mean,
on the one hand, Senator, it's well, Trump is president
and all's well, that ends well. But on the other hand,
that is a shocking precedent breach betrayal, I would say,
(50:34):
of the American people's trust, and they actually did it.
I feel like we're still processing that that happened because
it happened so recently.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yeah, And one of the reasons why I wrote last
line of sense, which you can get on Amazon right now,
is there is a tendency guys. I think too now
that that we're past the fever dream, the fever broke.
I think in November twenty twenty four of this kind
of crazy, woke Don sense and the lawfair that was
brought against President Trump to throw them in jail for
the rest of his life. There's a tendency to kind
(51:02):
of gloss all that over, But you got to remember
the dark days. And I was on your show talking
about this was why I think your audience really liked
the book. This was a time of lockdowns, some pulsory
COVID shots, open borders, DEI struggle, sessions, ESD requirements, and
a censorship enterprise so vast that the Biden administration instituted
(51:22):
that was the biggest affront of the First Amendment in
American history. This is all just like in a four
year period of time where they opened up the floodgates
on all this and we had to push back. And
so while President Trump was out of power, we were
able to kind of hold the line on a lot
of this for the cavalry to arise in November of
last year. It did arrive, and President Trump finished this,
you know, epic historic comeback. And we're talking about all
(51:43):
the good things that Clay you just mentioned. They're happening
that Democrats are still opposed to. But there's a lot
of important lessons learned. I mean, whether it was. You know,
we took that vaccine mandate case, always from court, we won.
We took the Missouri took the student on def forgiveness case,
always from court, we won. I sued fifty plus school
districts in Missouri for their forced mass bandates. We won.
We had the censorship case. And what that shows and
(52:05):
what the story is so important. It's kind of behind
the scenes. Look at what was it like to take
the depol of Anthony Fauci, What was it like to
take the deposition of Elvis Chan at the FBI, who
was pre bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story. We did
all that. The point is you've got to have courage.
It's a lot easier to just go to ribbon cuttings
or just kind of walk along than it is. We've
got to stand up and fight. And President Trump, I
(52:25):
think has transformed the Republican Party now, certainly from the
one that I grew up in into much more not
just a working class party, but a party that's just
not going to lie down. We're going to stand up,
We're going to fight back, and if we do it,
we can actually win. So the book is kind of
a playbook on how we did it then, and how
we can do it moving forward.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Okay, I love everything that's happening now. I think most
people out there listening do as well. Here's my concern,
and you know this better than anybody, because you were
involved in so many of these lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
All of a.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Sudden, it's acceptable to say, Hey, we believe in the
marketplace of ideas. Hey, we shouldn't be rigging the algorithm.
Hey we shouldn't be artificially inserting ourselves into the public
discourse and manipulating the results. Yet twenty twenty one, every
social media company in America banned Donald Trump from getting
(53:16):
on I like the joke because it kind of brings
it home. Pinterest banned Donald Trump Pinterest like he couldn't
share his scrap book collages for people out there. How
do we stop this from happening when Trump isn't in
office and may ensure that what we are doing now
(53:37):
is going to extend into the future no matter who
the president happens to be.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Well, a couple of things. One is I think there
has to be accountability for some of these actions. I
think the most ivant out at about this. I think
you can draw a straight line like ironically Obama has
has immunity because of the case that that was brought
against President Trump presidential media, right, But Clapper doesn't, Brennan doesn't,
Comy doesn't. And if you can prove beyond this, you
(54:04):
have a statue limitation issues. But you don't if there's
a conspiracy, and it was an ongoing conspiracy, because if
you like the fuse and a conspiracy, whatever happens a
mile down the road, you're still responsible for. And these
guys knew it was fake, they knew it was BS.
They laundered that stupid stile dossier into an actual intelligence report,
and they tried to not only Acuba, tried to sideline
(54:26):
an entire first term of a president. And then of
course that was the impetus for all of the Oh,
this is Russian disinformation, This is Russian misinformation. Everything was
about Russian. This, Russian that, even though it was all
BS and so I don't think we should just forget
about that. I think there have to be repercussions. And
as far as like social media companies, you guys know this,
it's a good thing that they have something called Section
(54:48):
two thirty protections, meaning they're a platform, not a publisher,
meaning they're not legally responsible if somebody has, you know,
an opinion that you disagree with on that platform. That's
good for free speech, but you don't get to have
it both ways. You don't get the multi billion dollar
subsidy of being a platform where you can't be sued,
but then also try to manipulate what's on your platform
in an editorial like decision. So I think they got
(55:10):
to pick, and if they picked the wrong one, then
you're a publisher. You don't have the protections. I also
think a reform that will be important that I talk
about in the book two is these individual bureaucrats. If
you're engaged in suppressing somebody's First Amendment rights, you individually
ought to be able to be sued. There ought to
be an individual right of an action for an American
citizen to sue you for suppressing your speech about, you know,
(55:31):
questioning masks and how they work for kids or not.
That would change the kind of risk dynamic that currently
works because these, as you guys know, the beercrafts, aren't
accountable to anybody. We need to start making them accountable
to real people. So there's a few things that we
can do. But I you know what we saw guys
in that four year period in particular, if that was
going on somewhere else, like you know, the law fair
(55:51):
and the censorship and all this mass migration and all
this stuff that is being used with tax fair dollars
to fund, you know, we would be the State Department
would be warning America and citizens about that place. But
that was happening here. And again, the story of the
last line of offense that you can get on Amazon
now is about standing up, pushing back. If you do it,
if you got the courage, that you can win. And
(56:12):
this is a playbook of how conservatives moving forward can
fight and win in the courts, which we've always kind
of resisted because we thought that was their terrain.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Okay, procedurally, you're an expert on this. Democrats have a
huge advantage in DC because they have basically a ninety
five percent approval rating in DC, they can get any
indictment they want.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
How do you deal.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
With that if you're talking about bringing conspiracy charges. I
don't need like a law review analysis style, but just
for me and people out there who have a general
sense that this is a problem, how do you rectify that?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Well, once you have a conspiracy moving forward, it doesn't
just exist exclusively in Washington, DC. It emanates out. So
for example, and I'm just using this at ventially as
an example, but let's just say that the raid at
Mar A Lago was really about getting documents back that
they thought President Trump had is related to the Steele dossier.
(57:10):
I'm just throwing out a scenario, yeahespathetically. Of course, if
that were the case, You've got Southern Florida's where you
can issue indictments. Because again, remember if Jack Smith is
using a phony intelligence report that was generated by Brennan
and Kobe and Clapper, like they begin in the conspiracy process,
and he's furthering the conspiracy in South Florida. Again, the
(57:32):
jurisdiction that you can kind of work in gets much broader,
and I think that's one area that they might look at.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Senator appreciates you being with us, and just want to
tell everybody one last time. Go check out the book
which is out today, The Senator's new book, Very important,
very good stuff, the last line of defense, how to
beat the Left in court. Appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
All right, guys, take care, Thank you.
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