August 20, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the political landscape following the 2024 election, with a sharp focus on the Democratic Party’s ongoing struggles and the Republican Party’s growing momentum. Clay and Buck open the hour reflecting on their recent visit to Chattanooga and the energy among young Republicans, setting the tone for a discussion centered on cultural and political shifts across America.
The hosts analyze a major New York Times article highlighting a dramatic decline in Democratic voter registration across 30 states, with Republicans gaining over 4.5 million voters between 2020 and 2024. They emphasize that this trend spans battleground states, deep-blue strongholds, and red states alike—signaling a nationwide political realignment. Key states like Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania are spotlighted as examples of this shift, with Nevada experiencing one of the steepest drops in Democratic support.
Clay and Buck explore the cultural undercurrents driving this transformation, including the alienation of young men, Latino voters, and black male voters from the Democratic Party. They argue that the party’s messaging has become increasingly disconnected from mainstream values, particularly on issues like crime, gender identity, and education. The hosts also discuss how Democrats’ reliance on nonprofit-driven voter registration efforts is no longer yielding the expected partisan advantage.
The hour features a spirited critique of Democratic leadership, with Clay and Buck asserting that the party has failed to adapt post-2024 and is instead doubling down on unpopular policies. They suggest that President Trump’s political instincts and messaging have become more refined, helping him consolidate support across key demographics.
In a provocative segment, the hosts speculate on potential Democratic challengers for 2028, including Gavin Newsom and even MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough. They argue that the Democratic Party may need an outsider with media savvy and centrist appeal to counter the GOP’s populist surge.
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck reinforce the idea that the Republican Party is becoming the new political home for culturally grounded, working-class Americans. They frame the current moment as a “five-alarm fire” for Democrats and a cultural victory for conservatives.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. In Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Had
an awesome time speaking to the young Republicans of Hamilton County,
that is Chattanooga. Last night visited with our friends Legacy
Box toured their incredible facility. Maybe talk a little bit
more about that later, but just wanted to say off
(00:21):
the top thanks to everybody out there who was listening
in that area. Had a great time meeting with all
of you. And there are a lot more of you
every single day that are joining team Clay and Buck,
team Sanity, Team Republican. You could probably feel it. We
will talk with Heather McDonald by the way next hour
(00:44):
about the latest on the crime situation DC in particular,
but what exactly is happening when it comes to violent
crime in this country? What is the data show us.
Heather McDonald's one of the top experts in the country,
so we will discuss that. But Buck, this is one
of those days where it pays off to be me,
where you start off your morning with a nice Crockett coffee,
(01:05):
sitting down in front of the newspaper selection opening it up.
Usually the New York Times, not exactly renowned for its
positive stories relating to the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Can I just say, drinking Crockett clay is like putting
on the leather bib before you get the X ray
at the dentist. Like if you're drinking Crockett, the communist
New York Times doesn't infiltrate you the same way.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
No doubt. And by the way, I just want I
do it so you don't have to. This is me
taking this time.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It lead, not leather, sorry, leather, lead bib led bib.
I was thinking, what does the leather do? But I
was the leather with Crockett connection. I thought I might
be missing something. I do it so most of you
do not have to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But this is a headline in New York Times today,
and I'm looking at what the headline is in the
digital right now, because sometimes it's different than the newspaper headline.
Digital not a positive headline. Democrats flashing read alert. What
the voter registration data shows subheading And there's a big
(02:11):
graphical accompaniment story for this. The party is bleeding support
beyond the ballot box. A new analysis shows this is
a big article. This is the feature for the New
York Times. And listen to this open buck you don't
hear it opens like these. And I thought it was
interesting because the Sunday New York Times basically wrote an
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entire editorial on behalf of the paper saying, Yeah, Clay
and Buck were basically write about everything on COVID and
basically write about everything on crime, and maybe we should
have been smarter about the way we covered it. That's
basically what the New York Times said in their editorial.
Here's the open. The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging voters long
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before they even go to the polls of the thirty
states that track voter registration by political party, Democrats lost
ground to Republicans in every single one between the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four elections, often by a lot.
That four year swing towards Republicans adds up to four
(03:23):
point five million voters, a deep political whole that could
take years for Democrats to climb out from. And then Buck,
there is a graphic showing you Democrats losing ground in
all thirty states while Republicans are gaining ground. And and again,
one more paragraph here just to contextualize, so you know
(03:46):
what Democrats are reading this morning. The stampede away from
the Democrat Party is occurring in battleground states, the bluest
states and the reddest states too, according to voter registration
data analyzed by the New York Times. And the data
comes from a non part is in data factory. So
(04:10):
this is interesting when you think about buck what is
going on in the larger country. I feel like I've
seen it for a while because the Democrat Party, it's
basically an insult to call someone a Democrat if you're
a young man. We made jokes about this when I
uh fraternities. Instead of making jokes about your mom with
(04:31):
the banners outside of the house this fall, we're saying
their opponents vote Democrat. The culture has shifted in a
major way. Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Now, if you're at the frat house and some guy
swings and misses, you say, you swing that withfleball bat
like Democrat.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's not good. Yeah. And this whole article to look
the data in the I'm gonna tell you this right now.
This article is a joy. It is a joy to read.
I read it more than once. That's how much. And
this is a New York Times, a big piece from
the New York Times. This is injected straight into my veins,
take this data and put it right into the heart
(05:09):
of the American populace. This is great stuff. Some of
the things I pulled from this in the specifics, the
long and the short of it, as you laid out,
is party registration, which Democrats are used to having an advantage.
And one of the reasons why they didn't really detail
this in the article is Democrats have been running this
voter registration industrial complex that is a non that they
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use nonprofits, so tax advantaged here. Okay, they're using nonprofits
in order to get people to sign up and vote,
but they do it in a way that they know
they're going to get more Democrats, right, So it's, oh,
we're just to get out the vote effort, right, And
you've seen celebrities doing this in the past and stuff,
but it's always wink wink, we're gonna do this in
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you know, in Philadelphia, in New York, in Los Angeles.
It's like they're doing it in places where they figure
we're going to overwhelmingly be registering Democrats to vote. Well,
the problem is now they can't count play on just
a blanket registration effort in these areas, especially when they're
going after let's say Latino voters, they can't count on
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it benefiting Democrats, so they're going to a whole On
a second, our scam isn't working the way that it
used to. Miami Dade County, for example, the number of
active Republican voters zoomed past Democrats after Trump became the
Republican nominee. As recently as November twenty twenty, my home
county of Miami Dade, Clay Democrats had a two hundred
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thousand in one county, two hundred thousand registered voter advantage. Yeah,
there are you know, most counties don't even have you know,
the two hundred thousand voters.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I mean, you see this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
North Carolina state records show the Democrat advantage there was
four hundred thousand in twenty twenty. It's now basically more
or less a tide that they've got seventeen thousand voters.
I mean, that's like not not going to make a
huge difference. So this is five alarm fire time for
(07:13):
Is that the most alarms for a fire? Think it
is right?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
There is a four alarm fire.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Five alarm fire. We got a lot of firefighters. You
guys can write it and tell I think it's five alarm, right.
I think it's five alarm right. I think that's a
big scary fire. Yeah, this is a big scary fire
for Democrats. For us, we are roasting marshmallows and enjoying
all of this. This is fantastic and it goes to
everything we talk about, as you said, the anti masculine,
anti white misjudging, the Latino misjudging, the young black male vote.
(07:43):
I mean they they are in free fall. And the
great thing is clay. There's no signs of its stopping.
It just keeps getting worse, and they won't change their messaging.
They keep pushing for let's have you know, two hundred
pound guys playing on the women's athletics team in high school.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, and I do. I think this is so. By
the way, one bit of news on this thirty states.
You might be saying, Okay, what happened in the other
twenty states. The other twenty states don't have party official registration.
So in my state of Tennessee, for instance, you walk
in on a primary and pick which side you want
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to vote in, so there isn't official party registration. Some
places have registered Democrats, some places have registered Republicans. Twenty
states do not, so they only have a thirty state
data set. But this, to me, buck it corresponds with
all fifty states moved redder. If all thirty states are
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hemorrhaging Democrats such that The New York Times is writing
about it and adding Republicans, it is a sign of
a profound cultural shift. And I think the numbers are
actually going to get worse. And this is why we
had this conversation. In the wake of losing in twenty
twenty four, Democrats had a real choice. Do we look
(09:01):
ourselves in the mirror and say, boy, voters by and
large rejected us, or do they say this is just
a sign that our message is not getting through. Those
are the only two paths, right. The first one is
hard because it requires you to say, boy, this is
(09:23):
on us. The second one you put it on the voters.
I think we've gotten a result so far, six months
after Trump won, Democrats have decided their message just didn't
get through, and they have as a result, doubled, tripled,
quadrupled down on crazy And they're saying, well, they're ignoring
(09:47):
the fact that Kamala outspent Trump. They're ignoring the fact
that voters, I believe, heard, listened, analyzed, and rejected the
arguments being made by the Democrat Party, and overwhelmingly chose
the Republican Party instead. And here's what I think is
particularly ominous, Buck, I think there are two things that
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are particularly ominous about this data. One, the two most
Republican groups in the twenty twenty four election were men
under thirty and men over sixty five. I bet that
has never happened in the history of this country. And
I think a lot of people are still not recognizing it,
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which means that the data, as kids are getting younger,
instead of working in Democrat favor, is actually working against them.
And I'll come into the Travis Holts household and give
you an example on this. My fourteen year old blew
my mind because I'm I can't believe that I'm going
to have two grown adult sons by the next election.
(10:50):
He told me, right after twenty twenty four, Dad, all
my friends cannot wait to be eighteen so we can
vote against Democrats in twenty twenty eight. These are fourteen
year old boys that will be eighteen. This is right now,
rising ninth graders, and there's a lot of these kids
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they are overwhelmingly indexing a Republican just like their older
brothers did, just like is happening out there. So I
think the numbers are getting worse. That's point one for
younger two. And this is really transformative. And I know
a lot of you out there are part of this group. Asian,
Hispanic and Black voters are increasingly moving towards the Republican
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side because culturally they are more male than they are
Democrat and that men are saying we're done with the craziness.
So I think both of those things are huge, not
only now but looking forward.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And just from a pure power perspective, the general belief
is that after a presidential election, especially a tightly contested,
hotly contested one, oh Republicans or rather the party in
power or Republicans in this case, will get smacked down
in the midterms. And just also the overall political trend,
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because when you're in power, it's easy for people to
say you're not doing a good enough job of this,
and you messed that up, and you know, to be
the political complainers. Tends to work right that the opposition
party gets to say, you're not delivering, you're not and
we've gotten used to that as our framework for politics
in this country, certainly at the national level. Here's and
(12:29):
let me add that happened in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen.
Going into that twenty eighteen midterms, it was Trump hasn't delivered,
They hadn't built the wall, they hadn't done this and that,
and they were able to get substantial gains in twenty
eighteen in the House, and the Democrats were really fired up.
Obviously about twenty twenty. You could tell already by that
midterm Clay, that's not happening this time. And this is
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what I think is so concerning to the Democrats and
so amazing for the rest of us, is that they're
not seeing the general the general prevailing trends post this
election are not okay. Democrats are going to snap back,
Democrats are going to counterattack.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Here.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's getting worse for them. Ye, Trump's been president for
seven months and things are getting better for Trump and
worse for Democrats right away in all the numbers and
all the metrics that they can see. I mean, here's
one we didn't mention this battleground states Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania.
Democrats are losing support in all of those states and
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continuing to bleed support based on voter register member not
all states have voter registration. What is it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's like, uh, thirty, thirty out of thirty out of fifty,
so I'm not a register anything in my state.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So so twenty do not thirty two. Based on those
thirty states, though you can look at Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,
really important states, Democrats are still losing support when it
comes to voters in those places. And they're also losing
support when you look at voter switches, people that were
Democrats and come to Republican side, or Republicans who go
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in the other direction. More Democrats are leaving the Democrat party.
I don't know how this article could be worse for
Democrats right now. Quite there was not a single silver
lining anywhere anywhere, full stop.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It was a total.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It was a delicious nightmare for them. I loved everything.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
By the way. One state that I think is not
getting enough attention that is emblematic of this, maybe more
than most Nevada. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the steepest percentage
point plunge of any state other than West Virginia. West
Virginia's pretty red place. Nevada swung massively to the Republican Party.
I think there's an argument that Nevada is really teed
(14:47):
up to become rock ribbed red.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, I have a theory on West Virginia. Actually, let
me come back into the I have a theory. I
think that West Virginia data is much more important even
than the article suggests. We'll come back into this in
a second.
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
Welcome back into Clay and Buff. We're looking at these
really interesting trends on party registration, which are a great
thing for the Republicans, And I would just say this, Clay.
You said that the trend, the trend for the Democrat
Party is terrible in Nevada, which is obviously an important
swing state, and the only place it's been worse was
(17:00):
West Virginia. And I think that's because the increasingly people
see the Joe Biden blue dog, gun toting Democrat mythology
as just that I mean is there's no such thing
as a moderate Democrat really anymore, not of any significance.
They carry no weight in the party, and nobody cares
(17:21):
what they think in the Democrat Party. So I think
that that's why you're seeing, you know, the numbers in
West Virginia just going through the roof for Republicans, and
particularly in this last election with Trump won seventy to
thirty in West Virginia this last time around, and that's
only going to continue as well, because Democrat, you can't
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be a Democrat to be pro gun in pro life.
They used to pull that off in some places. It
doesn't exist really anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
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profound and I think a lot of Democrats are waking
up this morning and reading their morning New York Times
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We are talking about the challenge that Democrats suddenly find
themselves in the midst of as The New York Times
is saying, Hey, this is a this is a mess
(19:13):
for you guys, and one of the uh I would say,
big issues associated with this going forward, I wanted to
come back to it is Democrats are unwilling to recognize
that their message was heard and basically universally rejected by
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voters in all fifty states. So my question for you,
Buck is now that let me say this, that doesn't
mean that Democrats may not win in Virginia, doesn't mean
that Democrats may not win in New Jersey. Doesn't even
mean next year Democrats might not have a chance to
(19:56):
take back the House. Right, the trend lines can all
be moving again them and turnout can still be significant.
But I wanted to hit this because I think it's
so important. For a long time, you heard, oh, turnout
favors democrats. Turnout favors democrats. How many times have you
guys heard that? The data on the twenty twenty four
(20:18):
election actually shows if every eligible American had voted, Trump
would have won by more. Let me repeat that, because
I think it has not come through Trump's margin and
the popular vote would have become more substantial if everybody
who didn't vote actually had gone out and voted well.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And the talking point about if everyone voted, Democrats would
win by more. This was a little bit like their
selective love of the popular vote, particularly in the Bush
Gore contest and then Hillary Trump, which is, we know
that's not the contest you're running, so it doesn't matter, right.
I mean, if if you're playing first one to twenty one,
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you can't say, well, the ten minute quarter has ended,
so I win. Like you've got to set the rules
and then you've got to see where things go. But
they say this, and they've been telling themselves this for
a long time, and I think because of the dominance
that they had in the broad spectrum legacy media, they
were able to convince themselves of this. And and really
(21:26):
with COVID, you got to see. This is why I
think COVID was such an important moment for the country.
I mean, I still think about it. I'm still angry
about it. By the way legitimately get I get ticked
off when I think about things that happened during COVID
that Democrats did to us, and then a lot of
Republicans were too cowardly to stop. I might add, but
(21:47):
that was the Democrat Party, unleashed, unrestrained. That was what
they really are, which is, you shut up. We're gonna
lie to you, We're going to kick you off the internet,
We're going to use government for to lock you in
your homes. We're gonna use government force to shut down
We're gonna do all these things, and we're gonna be
unrepentant about it when it all has shown that it
(22:09):
was wrong, unnecessary, and just destructive. And then we're gonna
keep telling you, well, you know, you still have to
say that a man can become a woman. Then we're
gonna keep telling you you still have to say that unrestricted,
open borders aren't a bad thing for the country, or
for any country for that matter. They decided that they
(22:29):
were going to go for it and put themselves in
a position where they could dictate what reality was, and
they were wrong. And now they're seeing the pushback, the
counter attack and everything that needs to happen is happening.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think two things tie in with this too. One,
I think Trump has become a much more sophisticated politician.
I think that his group that surrounds him, his his aids,
his cabinet, I think they are smarter. I think they
are are more reflective of the country and where the
country stands. And I think Trump has taken advantage of
(23:06):
the reflective, reflexive anti Trump sentiment to actually just start
taking positions that are eighty or ninety percent popular to
see whether Democrats DC crime is a good example, men
and women in sports are actually willing to continue to
argue against them, and so far they have been. Here
is the question that I have for you, Buck, and
(23:27):
I also have this question for everybody writ large out there.
If you are unwilling to acknowledge that everybody's hearing your
message and rejecting it, which is what is happening so
far with the Democrat Party, is there a truth teller
on that side of the ledger that is going to
(23:48):
emerge to redefine what the Democrat Party is or do
they have to lose again in order to recognize that
their message is being heard and rejected Because I'll give
you an example. Buck. Some people are going to say,
we're just not being left wing enough. That could be
(24:09):
the lesson to some of these people from Mom Donnie right,
it is, Hey, basically, let's just become communists. That's what
has to motivate the base. The real Democrat party has
never been tried. Yes, basically right?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Or or.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Is someone going to emerge who is somewhat of a
centrist now Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Hah, look at you, look at you. This is the
next go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Gavin Newsom has tried to flirt with centrism by saying
never the right thing, but that he hears the right argument.
Remember when he was on with Sean Ryan, he said,
what's your voice? Did I hear you? It's like, yeah,
it's like I'm hearing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I'm hearing what you're saying. I'm getting what you're putting down,
and the wind through my hair is speaking to all
of us.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm hearing what you're saying. Is an amazing line because
you don't actually say anything like, of course you're here
unless you're unless you're deaf. Of course you hear what
I say, it doesn't mean that you actually agree with it.
So that's his line. And you know who's actually making
fun now of Gavin Newsom. This is a guy who
(25:17):
I think has seen the tea leaves and he will
blow in whatever direction the wind is blowing. Joe Scarborough,
who just last year was telling us this was the
best version of Biden he'd ever seen, now says Gavin
Newsom's a total fake. Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
The Democratic As are trying to find their footing and
it's it's it's quite embarrassing. Actually, I mean Gavin Newsome,
I mean, have you seen what he's doing online? And
just take a deep breath. Don't try to turn this
ship one hundred and eighty degrees and one. They don't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I have a good idea.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Instead of trying to make school Donald Trump talk into
the camera about affordability, why try to drag Muhammad Ali
in the ring when you get Chuck Webner?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Sandy Wepner is a bleeder. He's a bleeder. You want him?
So why are you going I'm long after Donald?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
You're not running against Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Joe after Tweedledee are tweedled dumb?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Who is this is a low level boxer but what
what I think it's a very low level boxer from like, uh,
somebody look it up. But the Muhammad Ali as Trump
is funny because suddenly Trump is a great politician and
he's a great boxer. In the analogies from He's he
has kicked. He's kicked an old tactician out there. He's
(26:40):
kicked their asses. I mean they've had they've had to
accept Trump. Trump has kicked their asses. Trump has completely
plowed the Democrat Party Under Clay, we didn't even talk
about it because of all the big news with Russia
and all the things going on there.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Ms NBC has had to change its name. This is real, everybody,
This is not the onion. MSNBC is now going to
be called ms now, which honestly sounds like a channel
dedicated to, you know, unmarried, middle aged women who drink
a lot of wine and read those novels that are
(27:15):
you know, by the front register or something at the
grocery store like ms now. I mean, is this about
like women's health? Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Clay?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
He has destroyed CNN, he has destroyed MSNBC. The New
York Times will never gain back north to Washington Post,
whatever credibility that they used to have. He has crushed
the fake media. He has burned their villages and heard
the lamentations of their women. So yes, they have to
accept this. But I have a wild idea for you.
(27:44):
I have a wild idea for you. You ready for
this one?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh yeah, I'm putting on I'm putting all my Clay
Travis at right now. Hey, look at me. I love
SEC football and I make wild predictions that sometimes come true.
I'm putting on my Clay hat. Joe Scarborough's media career
is going nowhere. Joe scar should run for president as
a Democrat, and I think he sees Gavin Newsom and
I think he's a little jelly and I think he's
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considering it. I think he's considering it. I don't think
that that this is I this is a good I
put on my claim.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I think this is a good I think this is
a good take. I actually, I mean Joe Scarborough used
to be a Republican. He now is redefining himself. He
called out Democrats for being against more police in DC. Uh.
He's got the ms now the MSNBC base that likes
him right there on the most popular show other than Matdow.
(28:36):
He's obviously in the communication business. We know that he
has no core belief but that actually might benefit him.
If all the core beliefs of the Democrat Party are wrong,
it's easier for someone without core beliefs to take over
the party. He's perfect, actually, and this is this is
why Joe Biden was perfect for Democrats in twenty twenty
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because he was old, were scared, he didn't have to
show up for anything, and he was able to be
the He was the pretext of the old Democrat Party
still exists.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Now we know what happened. He was a dementia puppet
and you got AOC policies with a Joe Biden facade, right,
and it was truly a facade because it was like,
you know, the marionette, like hey here I am everybody,
I'm talking And so that was what worked for them.
Then what would work for them now is a slick,
(29:30):
grinning Gavin Newsom or Joe Scarborough type, soulless but smooth
individual who can who is good on the stump, who
knows how to debate, who knows how to do the
the oleaginist thing up there word of the day and
I think I think Scarborough and actually Gavin, I think
(29:52):
Scarborough and Newsom are the same creature. That's what I release.
And I think Gavin Newsom and Joe Scarborough are such
egomaniacs that they have what it takes to say absolutely
anything to win a Democrat primary. That's what I That's
what that's where I see it. And and you know,
this would be an opportunity. I'm telling you he would,
It would get he would do very well in a primary.
(30:13):
Remember MSNBC there's a they have a strong minority and
a strong female black viewership for from within the you know,
the news cohorts, the news industry, and so they they
know him, they would like him, they would support him.
I mean, I think I think Scarborough running is not
as as not a People always say on the right
the Tucker is gonna run, which I don't think that's
(30:35):
going to happen. I think Tucker likes what he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
But I uh.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The Scarborough thing, you don't think it's crazy. I put
my hat on and you agree.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, I've been arguing for some time that it might
take somebody outside of the Democrat Party, and I think
in the wake of Trump's success, there will be I
think multiple non traditional politicians who on the Democrat You.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Need, you need star power to win a Democrat primary.
Now it used you can't replicate the brand creation of
other Democrats that have you know, Biden, the guy's been
in politics longer than you and I have been alive.
And so that name recognition is effectively similar to the
(31:23):
you know, the celebrity status. Right, You're not going to
get somebody who comes up now who doesn't have star
power and wins a Democrat primary. This is again why
I think AOC is certainly a vice president in waiting,
and I think that that's where the Democrats are heading.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
The reason I like the Scarborough angle, right the outsider
is this is my art, this is my assertion. In
order to win, a Democrat has to put the left
wing in basically time out. They have to lecture the
left wing and say this party is not this party
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doesn't exist just for trans people. This party doesn't exist
just for people who believe that America is fundamentally awful
and that American history is something to be ashamed of.
I think Joe Scarborough or Gavin Newsom, I mean this
is they're the same. They're the same lane for the Democrats, right,
A guy.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
With who's smooth on the air, he's got good hair,
and it's gonna say whatever he has to say to
make everybody play ball long enough that he can actually
get powered. I think that the case from the Newsom
Scarborough side of things is, I don't care what you
blue haired you know, communist freaks. Yes, actually, and again
we mean purple hair, not old people like people that
(32:41):
die their hair. I don't care what you communist freaks want.
If you don't let me run this show a little bit.
Trump and Maga are just gonna keep stealing your lunch
for the next decade.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, I think that's right. I also think some of
the Democrats are too much of cowards to try to
put what is it a great phrase from Dirty Dancing?
Nobody puts baby in the corner. You got to put
crazy in the corner, and you got to say, like
I'm shutting the door on you loans, you can show
up and vote whatever. You're not going to drive the
party anymore. I think a lot of professional politicians are
(33:14):
afraid of that, because they're afraid of that party element
coming back. The progressive wing in power, whereas Joe Scarborough,
what the heck does he care. He's got a television contract,
he's got money. I don't know that Gavin Newsom is
willing to truly burn the ships, because if it doesn't
work in twenty eight, he might need those people in
thirty two.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I just one last thing. I know, we got to
get to it. But just Clay, you know this, you
know this beast, you know this animal very well, the
media personality who we've all seen this playing out over decades.
When you're at that stage at Scarboro's at the guy's
worth millions and millions of tens of millions of dollars
probably at this point he's a very wealthy guy. Okay,
he's been doing TV a long time. His relevance is
(33:54):
dropping immensely by being at MSNBC. How do you become
relevant again? He doesn't really matter to you at that
point very much. Has it become relevant again?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You run?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And also you've been embarrassed because you were the guy
who said Biden was at his best. You need to
change the story, and you have to do something radical
sometimes because because all you care, it's all ego driven.
And to change the story, I mean, look at Look,
look at Trump. Obama made fun of Trump at a
dinner and the world changed.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, so you know, I think that's right. I don't.
I think the Scarborough idea is actually a good one.
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Are we closing up for the hour the hour? Fuck
me back in a second with everybody here. We actually
talked to Heather McDonald about the DC crime situation. Heather
McDonald is always fantastic on the realities, the truth of
crime and how to stop it. What's really going on?
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Speaker 1 (36:37):
Also about I think by by uh Scarborough because that
guy's a pretty good boxer.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
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We'll be right back
Welcome. In Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Had
an awesome time speaking to the young Republicans of Hamilton County,
that is Chattanooga. Last night visited with our friends Legacy
Box toured their incredible facility. Maybe talk a little bit
more about that later, but just wanted to say off
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the top thanks to everybody out there who was listening
in that area. Had a great time meeting with all
of you. And there are a lot more of you
every single day that are joining team Clay and Buck,
team Sanity, Team Republican. You could probably feel it. We
will talk with Heather McDonald by the way next hour
(00:44):
about the latest on the crime situation DC in particular,
but what exactly is happening when it comes to violent
crime in this country? What is the data show us.
Heather McDonald's one of the top experts in the country,
so we will discuss that. But Buck, this is one
of those days where it pays off to be me,
where you start off your morning with a nice Crockett coffee,
(01:05):
sitting down in front of the newspaper selection opening it up.
Usually the New York Times, not exactly renowned for its
positive stories relating to the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Can I just say, drinking Crockett clay is like putting
on the leather bib before you get the X ray
at the dentist. Like if you're drinking Crockett, the communist
New York Times doesn't infiltrate you the same way.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
No doubt. And by the way, I just want I
do it so you don't have to. This is me
taking this time.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It lead, not leather, sorry, leather, lead bib led bib.
I was thinking, what does the leather do? But I
was the leather with Crockett connection. I thought I might
be missing something. I do it so most of you
do not have to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But this is a headline in New York Times today,
and I'm looking at what the headline is in the
digital right now, because sometimes it's different than the newspaper headline.
Digital not a positive headline. Democrats flashing read alert. What
the voter registration data shows subheading And there's a big
(02:11):
graphical accompaniment story for this. The party is bleeding support
beyond the ballot box. A new analysis shows this is
a big article. This is the feature for the New
York Times. And listen to this open buck you don't
hear it opens like these. And I thought it was
interesting because the Sunday New York Times basically wrote an
(02:34):
entire editorial on behalf of the paper saying, Yeah, Clay
and Buck were basically write about everything on COVID and
basically write about everything on crime, and maybe we should
have been smarter about the way we covered it. That's
basically what the New York Times said in their editorial.
Here's the open. The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging voters long
(02:58):
before they even go to the polls of the thirty
states that track voter registration by political party, Democrats lost
ground to Republicans in every single one between the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four elections, often by a lot.
That four year swing towards Republicans adds up to four
(03:23):
point five million voters, a deep political whole that could
take years for Democrats to climb out from. And then Buck,
there is a graphic showing you Democrats losing ground in
all thirty states while Republicans are gaining ground. And and again,
one more paragraph here just to contextualize, so you know
(03:46):
what Democrats are reading this morning. The stampede away from
the Democrat Party is occurring in battleground states, the bluest
states and the reddest states too, according to voter registration
data analyzed by the New York Times. And the data
comes from a non part is in data factory. So
(04:10):
this is interesting when you think about buck what is
going on in the larger country. I feel like I've
seen it for a while because the Democrat Party, it's
basically an insult to call someone a Democrat if you're
a young man. We made jokes about this when I
uh fraternities. Instead of making jokes about your mom with
(04:31):
the banners outside of the house this fall, we're saying
their opponents vote Democrat. The culture has shifted in a
major way. Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Now, if you're at the frat house and some guy
swings and misses, you say, you swing that withfleball bat
like Democrat.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's not good. Yeah. And this whole article to look
the data in the I'm gonna tell you this right now.
This article is a joy. It is a joy to read.
I read it more than once. That's how much. And
this is a New York Times, a big piece from
the New York Times. This is injected straight into my veins,
take this data and put it right into the heart
(05:09):
of the American populace. This is great stuff. Some of
the things I pulled from this in the specifics, the
long and the short of it, as you laid out,
is party registration, which Democrats are used to having an advantage.
And one of the reasons why they didn't really detail
this in the article is Democrats have been running this
voter registration industrial complex that is a non that they
(05:32):
use nonprofits, so tax advantaged here. Okay, they're using nonprofits
in order to get people to sign up and vote,
but they do it in a way that they know
they're going to get more Democrats, right, So it's, oh,
we're just to get out the vote effort, right, And
you've seen celebrities doing this in the past and stuff,
but it's always wink wink, we're gonna do this in
(05:55):
you know, in Philadelphia, in New York, in Los Angeles.
It's like they're doing it in places where they figure
we're going to overwhelmingly be registering Democrats to vote. Well,
the problem is now they can't count play on just
a blanket registration effort in these areas, especially when they're
going after let's say Latino voters, they can't count on
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it benefiting Democrats, so they're going to a whole On
a second, our scam isn't working the way that it
used to. Miami Dade County, for example, the number of
active Republican voters zoomed past Democrats after Trump became the
Republican nominee. As recently as November twenty twenty, my home
county of Miami Dade, Clay Democrats had a two hundred
(06:41):
thousand in one county, two hundred thousand registered voter advantage. Yeah,
there are you know, most counties don't even have you know,
the two hundred thousand voters.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I mean, you see this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
North Carolina state records show the Democrat advantage there was
four hundred thousand in twenty twenty. It's now basically more
or less a tide that they've got seventeen thousand voters.
I mean, that's like not not going to make a
huge difference. So this is five alarm fire time for
(07:13):
Is that the most alarms for a fire? Think it
is right?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
There is a four alarm fire.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Five alarm fire. We got a lot of firefighters. You
guys can write it and tell I think it's five alarm, right.
I think it's five alarm right. I think that's a
big scary fire. Yeah, this is a big scary fire
for Democrats. For us, we are roasting marshmallows and enjoying
all of this. This is fantastic and it goes to
everything we talk about, as you said, the anti masculine,
anti white misjudging, the Latino misjudging, the young black male vote.
(07:43):
I mean they they are in free fall. And the
great thing is clay. There's no signs of its stopping.
It just keeps getting worse, and they won't change their messaging.
They keep pushing for let's have you know, two hundred
pound guys playing on the women's athletics team in high school.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, and I do. I think this is so. By
the way, one bit of news on this thirty states.
You might be saying, Okay, what happened in the other
twenty states. The other twenty states don't have party official registration.
So in my state of Tennessee, for instance, you walk
in on a primary and pick which side you want
(08:18):
to vote in, so there isn't official party registration. Some
places have registered Democrats, some places have registered Republicans. Twenty
states do not, so they only have a thirty state
data set. But this, to me, buck it corresponds with
all fifty states moved redder. If all thirty states are
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hemorrhaging Democrats such that The New York Times is writing
about it and adding Republicans, it is a sign of
a profound cultural shift. And I think the numbers are
actually going to get worse. And this is why we
had this conversation. In the wake of losing in twenty
twenty four, Democrats had a real choice. Do we look
(09:01):
ourselves in the mirror and say, boy, voters by and
large rejected us, or do they say this is just
a sign that our message is not getting through. Those
are the only two paths, right. The first one is
hard because it requires you to say, boy, this is
(09:23):
on us. The second one you put it on the voters.
I think we've gotten a result so far, six months
after Trump won, Democrats have decided their message just didn't
get through, and they have as a result, doubled, tripled,
quadrupled down on crazy And they're saying, well, they're ignoring
(09:47):
the fact that Kamala outspent Trump. They're ignoring the fact
that voters, I believe, heard, listened, analyzed, and rejected the
arguments being made by the Democrat Party, and overwhelmingly chose
the Republican Party instead. And here's what I think is
particularly ominous, Buck, I think there are two things that
(10:08):
are particularly ominous about this data. One, the two most
Republican groups in the twenty twenty four election were men
under thirty and men over sixty five. I bet that
has never happened in the history of this country. And
I think a lot of people are still not recognizing it,
(10:29):
which means that the data, as kids are getting younger,
instead of working in Democrat favor, is actually working against them.
And I'll come into the Travis Holts household and give
you an example on this. My fourteen year old blew
my mind because I'm I can't believe that I'm going
to have two grown adult sons by the next election.
(10:50):
He told me, right after twenty twenty four, Dad, all
my friends cannot wait to be eighteen so we can
vote against Democrats in twenty twenty eight. These are fourteen
year old boys that will be eighteen. This is right now,
rising ninth graders, and there's a lot of these kids
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they are overwhelmingly indexing a Republican just like their older
brothers did, just like is happening out there. So I
think the numbers are getting worse. That's point one for
younger two. And this is really transformative. And I know
a lot of you out there are part of this group. Asian,
Hispanic and Black voters are increasingly moving towards the Republican
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side because culturally they are more male than they are
Democrat and that men are saying we're done with the craziness.
So I think both of those things are huge, not
only now but looking forward.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And just from a pure power perspective, the general belief
is that after a presidential election, especially a tightly contested,
hotly contested one, oh Republicans or rather the party in
power or Republicans in this case, will get smacked down
in the midterms. And just also the overall political trend,
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because when you're in power, it's easy for people to
say you're not doing a good enough job of this,
and you messed that up, and you know, to be
the political complainers. Tends to work right that the opposition
party gets to say, you're not delivering, you're not and
we've gotten used to that as our framework for politics
in this country, certainly at the national level. Here's and
(12:29):
let me add that happened in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen.
Going into that twenty eighteen midterms, it was Trump hasn't delivered,
They hadn't built the wall, they hadn't done this and that,
and they were able to get substantial gains in twenty
eighteen in the House, and the Democrats were really fired up.
Obviously about twenty twenty. You could tell already by that
midterm Clay, that's not happening this time. And this is
(12:52):
what I think is so concerning to the Democrats and
so amazing for the rest of us, is that they're
not seeing the general the general prevailing trends post this
election are not okay. Democrats are going to snap back,
Democrats are going to counterattack.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Here.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's getting worse for them. Ye, Trump's been president for
seven months and things are getting better for Trump and
worse for Democrats right away in all the numbers and
all the metrics that they can see. I mean, here's
one we didn't mention this battleground states Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania.
Democrats are losing support in all of those states and
(13:33):
continuing to bleed support based on voter register member not
all states have voter registration. What is it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's like, uh, thirty, thirty out of thirty out of fifty,
so I'm not a register anything in my state.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So so twenty do not thirty two. Based on those
thirty states, though you can look at Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,
really important states, Democrats are still losing support when it
comes to voters in those places. And they're also losing
support when you look at voter switches, people that were
Democrats and come to Republican side, or Republicans who go
(14:09):
in the other direction. More Democrats are leaving the Democrat party.
I don't know how this article could be worse for
Democrats right now. Quite there was not a single silver
lining anywhere anywhere, full stop.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It was a total.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It was a delicious nightmare for them. I loved everything.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
By the way. One state that I think is not
getting enough attention that is emblematic of this, maybe more
than most Nevada. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the steepest percentage
point plunge of any state other than West Virginia. West
Virginia's pretty red place. Nevada swung massively to the Republican Party.
I think there's an argument that Nevada is really teed
(14:47):
up to become rock ribbed red.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, I have a theory on West Virginia. Actually, let
me come back into the I have a theory. I
think that West Virginia data is much more important even
than the article suggests. We'll come back into this in
a second.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buff. We're looking at these
really interesting trends on party registration, which are a great
thing for the Republicans, And I would just say this, Clay.
You said that the trend, the trend for the Democrat
Party is terrible in Nevada, which is obviously an important
swing state, and the only place it's been worse was
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West Virginia. And I think that's because the increasingly people
see the Joe Biden blue dog, gun toting Democrat mythology
as just that I mean is there's no such thing
as a moderate Democrat really anymore, not of any significance.
They carry no weight in the party, and nobody cares
(17:21):
what they think in the Democrat Party. So I think
that that's why you're seeing, you know, the numbers in
West Virginia just going through the roof for Republicans, and
particularly in this last election with Trump won seventy to
thirty in West Virginia this last time around, and that's
only going to continue as well, because Democrat, you can't
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be a Democrat to be pro gun in pro life.
They used to pull that off in some places. It
doesn't exist really anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We'll talk more about this, because I do think it's
profound and I think a lot of Democrats are waking
up this morning and reading their morning New York Times
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We are talking about the challenge that Democrats suddenly find
themselves in the midst of as The New York Times
is saying, Hey, this is a this is a mess
(19:13):
for you guys, and one of the uh I would say,
big issues associated with this going forward, I wanted to
come back to it is Democrats are unwilling to recognize
that their message was heard and basically universally rejected by
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voters in all fifty states. So my question for you,
Buck is now that let me say this, that doesn't
mean that Democrats may not win in Virginia, doesn't mean
that Democrats may not win in New Jersey. Doesn't even
mean next year Democrats might not have a chance to
(19:56):
take back the House. Right, the trend lines can all
be moving again them and turnout can still be significant.
But I wanted to hit this because I think it's
so important. For a long time, you heard, oh, turnout
favors democrats. Turnout favors democrats. How many times have you
guys heard that? The data on the twenty twenty four
(20:18):
election actually shows if every eligible American had voted, Trump
would have won by more. Let me repeat that, because
I think it has not come through Trump's margin and
the popular vote would have become more substantial if everybody
who didn't vote actually had gone out and voted well.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And the talking point about if everyone voted, Democrats would
win by more. This was a little bit like their
selective love of the popular vote, particularly in the Bush
Gore contest and then Hillary Trump, which is, we know
that's not the contest you're running, so it doesn't matter, right.
I mean, if if you're playing first one to twenty one,
(21:03):
you can't say, well, the ten minute quarter has ended,
so I win. Like you've got to set the rules
and then you've got to see where things go. But
they say this, and they've been telling themselves this for
a long time, and I think because of the dominance
that they had in the broad spectrum legacy media, they
were able to convince themselves of this. And and really
(21:26):
with COVID, you got to see. This is why I
think COVID was such an important moment for the country.
I mean, I still think about it. I'm still angry
about it. By the way legitimately get I get ticked
off when I think about things that happened during COVID
that Democrats did to us, and then a lot of
Republicans were too cowardly to stop. I might add, but
(21:47):
that was the Democrat Party, unleashed, unrestrained. That was what
they really are, which is, you shut up. We're gonna
lie to you, We're going to kick you off the internet,
We're going to use government for to lock you in
your homes. We're gonna use government force to shut down
We're gonna do all these things, and we're gonna be
unrepentant about it when it all has shown that it
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was wrong, unnecessary, and just destructive. And then we're gonna
keep telling you, well, you know, you still have to
say that a man can become a woman. Then we're
gonna keep telling you you still have to say that unrestricted,
open borders aren't a bad thing for the country, or
for any country for that matter. They decided that they
(22:29):
were going to go for it and put themselves in
a position where they could dictate what reality was, and
they were wrong. And now they're seeing the pushback, the
counter attack and everything that needs to happen is happening.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think two things tie in with this too. One,
I think Trump has become a much more sophisticated politician.
I think that his group that surrounds him, his his aids,
his cabinet, I think they are smarter. I think they
are are more reflective of the country and where the
country stands. And I think Trump has taken advantage of
(23:06):
the reflective, reflexive anti Trump sentiment to actually just start
taking positions that are eighty or ninety percent popular to
see whether Democrats DC crime is a good example, men
and women in sports are actually willing to continue to
argue against them, and so far they have been. Here
is the question that I have for you, Buck, and
(23:27):
I also have this question for everybody writ large out there.
If you are unwilling to acknowledge that everybody's hearing your
message and rejecting it, which is what is happening so
far with the Democrat Party, is there a truth teller
on that side of the ledger that is going to
(23:48):
emerge to redefine what the Democrat Party is or do
they have to lose again in order to recognize that
their message is being heard and rejected Because I'll give
you an example. Buck. Some people are going to say,
we're just not being left wing enough. That could be
(24:09):
the lesson to some of these people from Mom Donnie right,
it is, Hey, basically, let's just become communists. That's what
has to motivate the base. The real Democrat party has
never been tried. Yes, basically right?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Or or.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Is someone going to emerge who is somewhat of a
centrist now Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Hah, look at you, look at you. This is the
next go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Gavin Newsom has tried to flirt with centrism by saying
never the right thing, but that he hears the right argument.
Remember when he was on with Sean Ryan, he said,
what's your voice? Did I hear you? It's like, yeah,
it's like I'm hearing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I'm hearing what you're saying. I'm getting what you're putting down,
and the wind through my hair is speaking to all
of us.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm hearing what you're saying. Is an amazing line because
you don't actually say anything like, of course you're here
unless you're unless you're deaf. Of course you hear what
I say, it doesn't mean that you actually agree with it.
So that's his line. And you know who's actually making
fun now of Gavin Newsom. This is a guy who
(25:17):
I think has seen the tea leaves and he will
blow in whatever direction the wind is blowing. Joe Scarborough,
who just last year was telling us this was the
best version of Biden he'd ever seen, now says Gavin
Newsom's a total fake. Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
The Democratic As are trying to find their footing and
it's it's it's quite embarrassing. Actually, I mean Gavin Newsome,
I mean, have you seen what he's doing online? And
just take a deep breath. Don't try to turn this
ship one hundred and eighty degrees and one. They don't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I have a good idea.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Instead of trying to make school Donald Trump talk into
the camera about affordability, why try to drag Muhammad Ali
in the ring when you get Chuck Webner?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Sandy Wepner is a bleeder. He's a bleeder. You want him?
So why are you going I'm long after Donald?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
You're not running against Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Joe after Tweedledee are tweedled dumb?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Who is this is a low level boxer but what
what I think it's a very low level boxer from like, uh,
somebody look it up. But the Muhammad Ali as Trump
is funny because suddenly Trump is a great politician and
he's a great boxer. In the analogies from He's he
has kicked. He's kicked an old tactician out there. He's
(26:40):
kicked their asses. I mean they've had they've had to
accept Trump. Trump has kicked their asses. Trump has completely
plowed the Democrat Party Under Clay, we didn't even talk
about it because of all the big news with Russia
and all the things going on there.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Ms NBC has had to change its name. This is real, everybody,
This is not the onion. MSNBC is now going to
be called ms now, which honestly sounds like a channel
dedicated to, you know, unmarried, middle aged women who drink
a lot of wine and read those novels that are
(27:15):
you know, by the front register or something at the
grocery store like ms now. I mean, is this about
like women's health? Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Clay?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
He has destroyed CNN, he has destroyed MSNBC. The New
York Times will never gain back north to Washington Post,
whatever credibility that they used to have. He has crushed
the fake media. He has burned their villages and heard
the lamentations of their women. So yes, they have to
accept this. But I have a wild idea for you.
(27:44):
I have a wild idea for you. You ready for
this one?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh yeah, I'm putting on I'm putting all my Clay
Travis at right now. Hey, look at me. I love
SEC football and I make wild predictions that sometimes come true.
I'm putting on my Clay hat. Joe Scarborough's media career
is going nowhere. Joe scar should run for president as
a Democrat, and I think he sees Gavin Newsom and
I think he's a little jelly and I think he's
(28:07):
considering it. I think he's considering it. I don't think
that that this is I this is a good I
put on my claim.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I think this is a good I think this is
a good take. I actually, I mean Joe Scarborough used
to be a Republican. He now is redefining himself. He
called out Democrats for being against more police in DC. Uh.
He's got the ms now the MSNBC base that likes
him right there on the most popular show other than Matdow.
(28:36):
He's obviously in the communication business. We know that he
has no core belief but that actually might benefit him.
If all the core beliefs of the Democrat Party are wrong,
it's easier for someone without core beliefs to take over
the party. He's perfect, actually, and this is this is
why Joe Biden was perfect for Democrats in twenty twenty
(28:58):
because he was old, were scared, he didn't have to
show up for anything, and he was able to be
the He was the pretext of the old Democrat Party
still exists.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Now we know what happened. He was a dementia puppet
and you got AOC policies with a Joe Biden facade, right,
and it was truly a facade because it was like,
you know, the marionette, like hey here I am everybody,
I'm talking And so that was what worked for them.
Then what would work for them now is a slick,
(29:30):
grinning Gavin Newsom or Joe Scarborough type, soulless but smooth
individual who can who is good on the stump, who
knows how to debate, who knows how to do the
the oleaginist thing up there word of the day and
I think I think Scarborough and actually Gavin, I think
(29:52):
Scarborough and Newsom are the same creature. That's what I release.
And I think Gavin Newsom and Joe Scarborough are such
egomaniacs that they have what it takes to say absolutely
anything to win a Democrat primary. That's what I That's
what that's where I see it. And and you know,
this would be an opportunity. I'm telling you he would,
It would get he would do very well in a primary.
(30:13):
Remember MSNBC there's a they have a strong minority and
a strong female black viewership for from within the you know,
the news cohorts, the news industry, and so they they
know him, they would like him, they would support him.
I mean, I think I think Scarborough running is not
as as not a People always say on the right
the Tucker is gonna run, which I don't think that's
(30:35):
going to happen. I think Tucker likes what he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
But I uh.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The Scarborough thing, you don't think it's crazy. I put
my hat on and you agree.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, I've been arguing for some time that it might
take somebody outside of the Democrat Party, and I think
in the wake of Trump's success, there will be I
think multiple non traditional politicians who on the Democrat You.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Need, you need star power to win a Democrat primary.
Now it used you can't replicate the brand creation of
other Democrats that have you know, Biden, the guy's been
in politics longer than you and I have been alive.
And so that name recognition is effectively similar to the
(31:23):
you know, the celebrity status. Right, You're not going to
get somebody who comes up now who doesn't have star
power and wins a Democrat primary. This is again why
I think AOC is certainly a vice president in waiting,
and I think that that's where the Democrats are heading.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
The reason I like the Scarborough angle, right the outsider
is this is my art, this is my assertion. In
order to win, a Democrat has to put the left
wing in basically time out. They have to lecture the
left wing and say this party is not this party
(32:00):
doesn't exist just for trans people. This party doesn't exist
just for people who believe that America is fundamentally awful
and that American history is something to be ashamed of.
I think Joe Scarborough or Gavin Newsom, I mean this
is they're the same. They're the same lane for the Democrats, right,
A guy.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
With who's smooth on the air, he's got good hair,
and it's gonna say whatever he has to say to
make everybody play ball long enough that he can actually
get powered. I think that the case from the Newsom
Scarborough side of things is, I don't care what you
blue haired you know, communist freaks. Yes, actually, and again
we mean purple hair, not old people like people that
(32:41):
die their hair. I don't care what you communist freaks want.
If you don't let me run this show a little bit.
Trump and Maga are just gonna keep stealing your lunch
for the next decade.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, I think that's right. I also think some of
the Democrats are too much of cowards to try to
put what is it a great phrase from Dirty Dancing?
Nobody puts baby in the corner. You got to put
crazy in the corner, and you got to say, like
I'm shutting the door on you loans, you can show
up and vote whatever. You're not going to drive the
party anymore. I think a lot of professional politicians are
(33:14):
afraid of that, because they're afraid of that party element
coming back. The progressive wing in power, whereas Joe Scarborough,
what the heck does he care. He's got a television contract,
he's got money. I don't know that Gavin Newsom is
willing to truly burn the ships, because if it doesn't
work in twenty eight, he might need those people in
thirty two.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I just one last thing. I know, we got to
get to it. But just Clay, you know this, you
know this beast, you know this animal very well, the
media personality who we've all seen this playing out over decades.
When you're at that stage at Scarboro's at the guy's
worth millions and millions of tens of millions of dollars
probably at this point he's a very wealthy guy. Okay,
he's been doing TV a long time. His relevance is
(33:54):
dropping immensely by being at MSNBC. How do you become
relevant again? He doesn't really matter to you at that
point very much. Has it become relevant again?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You run?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And also you've been embarrassed because you were the guy
who said Biden was at his best. You need to
change the story, and you have to do something radical
sometimes because because all you care, it's all ego driven.
And to change the story, I mean, look at Look,
look at Trump. Obama made fun of Trump at a
dinner and the world changed.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, so you know, I think that's right. I don't.
I think the Scarborough idea is actually a good one.
I think there will be other people, Dwayne the Rock, Johnson,
Mark Cuban. I'm not signing on to any of these guys,
but I think a lot of people will believe that
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Speaker 2 (36:02):
Are we closing up for the hour the hour? Fuck
me back in a second with everybody here. We actually
talked to Heather McDonald about the DC crime situation. Heather
McDonald is always fantastic on the realities, the truth of
crime and how to stop it. What's really going on?
Quick vip email Clay from from John Chuck Wepner, whose
(36:26):
nickname was the Bayone Bleeder was the guy that almost
beat Ali from Nowhere and the movie Rocky was about
very Is that true? I know nothing so this could be.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Also about I think by by uh Scarborough because that
guy's a pretty good boxer.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Two yeah, that's also it is a bad analogy, Is
that true? Guys, we need to fact checket get the
grock out fact check this one.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
We'll be right back
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