The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Cancel Culture, Lawfare, and the War on Conservative Media with Alex Marlow
August 25, 2025 • 35 mins
In this episode, Tudor speaks with Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News & host of the Alex Marlow Show, about the challenges facing conservative media, the weaponization of the legal system against political figures like Donald Trump, and the importance of accurate journalism in today's political climate. They discuss the implications of cancel culture, the double standards in political accountability, and the need for civic engagement to combat the left's strategies. Marlow emphasizes the significance of his new book, 'Breaking the Law,' which explores these themes in depth and serves as a call to action for conservatives. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast today.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I am really excited because we have Alex Marlow here.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
He is the editor in chief of Breitbart News.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And for those of you who don't know my background,
I started in this world, in the media world with
real America's voice, and one of my go to sources
was always Breitbart because they are cutting edge, they always
have the inside scoop, and they are a great organization.
But they don't get enough play because Google did this
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horrible thing where they took them off. And honestly, I
think it's relevant right now because we're talking about D
banking and the President has been talking about D banking,
but it's more than just D banking. What happened to Breitbart.
I think that they were a major source for such
a long time and then the leftists tried to hide them.
So for all of you who are looking for the
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real news, it's Breitbart and Alex Marlow is the editor
in chief.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
He is also the host of the Alex Marlow Show.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Podcast, and he has a new book out called Breaking Law,
exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. Alex,
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Tutor is such a nice introduction. Thank you for having
me on the show. And I'll tell you the Google
stuff is so important. We really were the canaries in
the coal mine for cancel culture. They try to destroy
us with all sorts of smears, particularly that we were
anti Semitic, even though the company was founded in by
Jews and the idea for it came from Israel and
were one hundred percent pro Israel, and it's just sort
of especially in this moment, but they would come up
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with anything try to smear us. And then right before
the twenty twenty election, Google completely took us off. So
you can't get Breitbart in Google searches unless you use
the word Breitbart. That was the little technicality they used.
So we didn't assue them into the ground, which I
don't know. Could you see Google in the ground. They're
pretty greright exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's the problem. They have so much money.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, So you know, this is a real positive that
could happen with the AI era, which is maybe people
are not as hooked on using Google searches, which is
very bad for the conservative movement because they cooked the
results to favor left wing causes and to try to
destroy conservative businesses.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Too, which is important and Breitbart.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
My experience with Breitbart is that there is an expert
in almost every area, so it's a massive amount of
writers that are out there every day.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Doing real journalism.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And I think that's important to say because I think
a lot of these blogs have turned into news sites,
but they're not because they're not true journalism. You have
to question some of the things that you're getting. That
is not the case with Breitbart. I've always been so
impressed with everything you guys do, and I just I
want to make sure people know that's that's a go
to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Thank you. A couple of responses to that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
First of all, my starting lineup is as good as
any starting lineup in media. I guarantee you that if
I took my best world reporter, my best economics reporter,
you know, my best political reporter, I would kick the
Wall Street journals. But it's not even close. They have
more resources, so they have more depth than I have.
Ot have as many people, so I can't cover quite
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as much ground, but we cover a lot of essential stuff,
and I think because of that, we're actually the best
at curation. I think if you go to Breitbart, you're
not going to see any fat. There's no fat. I've
worked on that over many years. I've been at her
in chief for eleven years, and so nothing there is
going to be boring or bad and everything. If you're
a talk show host, the whole goal. Because I grew
up on talk radio that was my entree into conservative news.
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I want it so that I could because I watched
Andrew Brechbart do this in real time. I want to
be able to send a story to The biggest host
in the world at the time was Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know you're in the Clay and Buck network. I
want klaim Buck and.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You to be able to take the story and just
to read it on air to a vast audience and
not a thing twice about it, because when they see
that orange be at the top, they know this thing
is legit and they don't have to double check it.
And you can't do that with your sources on X
the Everything app, which I enjoyed Twitter as much as anyone,
but it's in the influencer culture we're in. People are
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trying to get out there first, even if it's not accurate,
and they're being a little sensational if that gets more clicks.
I can't do that running a big news company, and
we are one hundred percent focus on accuracy first, and
that's why hopefully we burned your trust.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and that actually it's it's one of those things
where I see something and I go to your site
to see if I can verify it. Like yesterday there
were there was this and in this whole era on Monday.
But last week, so there was this I guess it
was a protest in Virginia, and I'm sure you saw
the woman who held up the sign, sure that said
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the horrible thing about it if trans people can't use
your bathroom, and then she said to win some sears,
then black people can't use my.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Water for fountain, right.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, and people were horrified.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But honestly, I saw it and I was like, I
don't know if this is true, Like, how could it
be true?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
How could the left have gone to that level? Yeah,
it's shocking.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And that's and that's one of the things where you
can rely on us to kind of get to the
bottom of those types of stories on your behalf, because
I'm not going to put up anything that is especially.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
The AI era.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I we have so many reps because we do one
hundred plus stories a day. We've been doing it for
sixteen seventeen years since we relaunched Breitbart, and so it's
one of these things where we're accustomed to doing. The
first thing is if this is too good to be true,
it probably is, So let's work it through. And if
you're trying to, you know, dominate on the X platform,
you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
You gotta you.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Gotta double check it. But one thing that is notable, though,
is that we assume the left is will do any
of that. I mean, they tried to kill President Trump
a couple times last year, and there was all these
people championing online. Just the amount of people who call
for assassinations of President Trump online is just is just amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And the it is a normative view.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I mean, the most obvious news cycle that's a corollarya
is the Sydney Sweeney one recently, where there are people
in the top of the left wing commentariat who were
saying this is a right wing hoax, that they didn't
say that this was racist and Nazis, and then you
go to TikTok and every other post was, oh, this
is a Nazi ad and it's like You guys can't
fool us with that anymore. We know how you operate.
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You just you have no control, you've no governor, you've
no sensors. So that's why people see signs like that,
and me, the presumption is it's legit. Maybe it's not
every once in a while, but for the most part,
that stuff is real.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
That's what the left does.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But I honestly I wondered when that American Eagle ad
came out because we shop there. I have four girls,
they're all at that age where that's the store to
go to, and it had been it had been dropping
off in sales, so they did this as a way
to kind of build back their sales, and then they
got hit with this backlash, and I thought, I hope
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this doesn't kill another business, because it is really hard
to find clothes for kids because you don't have that
many stores you can actually go to, and kids are
all awkward sizes.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
They've got to try things on. So we went to
them all last weekend and the American Eagle was shoulder
to shoulder with people.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Oh wild, I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Thought was a great commentary on how people are not
believing this bologna anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
This is such an interesting topic and has nothing to
do with anything I've been reporting on. But I just
a part of part of my life because I've got
four young kids, is that you want to I'm pro.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Boycott because I think it's good for the soul.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't know if it always hurts businesses, but I
think that sometimes I don't feel good buying Nike because
of the stuff they've done over the years. We're not
going to and I don't think I'm gonna be able
to destroy Nike single handedly, even with my platform and Brightboard.
I can't even announce it to my audience. I'm not
buying Nike. I don't know if I can destroy them.
It's just but I will tell you I don't feel
good with their products, so I don't. But if you
think about some of these these you know, material retailers.
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If you want a boycott a Walmart because you don't
like their predatory business practices, then you go to Amazon
with world's richest man who owns the Washington Post, which
just puts out NonStop assaults on our on our republic,
And so you.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Don't want to do that, So okay, so I'll go
to Target.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
But Target was the original Let's have the guys in
the girls' bathroom people, so you want to do that,
and then we're going to shop, and then it becomes
very very challenging to do that. Disney is so repulsive
in so many ways, but the stuff on Netflix is worse,
and the stuff on Disney, it just is.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's just worse.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And so it's like, if I'm boycott in Disney, then
that means what am I supposed to use Netflix? Where
the corporate board donates a ninety nine to one percent
to Democrats, and then they put out even worse content
for kids. So it's it's really really hard, and we
all got to work together, dude.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
This is the point. We got to work as a
conservative movement. We got to sort this stuff out together.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And that's why I think it's so important to have
these platforms where we can talk. And I am grateful
to claim Buck that they give me this platform. And
that's why I do want to get into what happened
to Donald Trump, because it was something that we really
weren't allowed to talk to talk about during the campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Obviously we all did, but the left was like.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hey, you can't say that Donald Trump is being targeted
he's a bad guy, and we're all watching this, especially
business people, and saying what happened in New York is unreasonable,
It's unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
How can there be no a victimless.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Crime that is created by the Attorney general or the
district attorney and then you and then you owe half
a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, the Tiss James case is I'm happy this is
getting a lot of scrutiny because what I write about
in Breaking the Law is I frame this up as
we're starting an investigation season. It's a more upbeat book
than some of my past books. I would say it's
in a way, it's my most upbeat, even though some
of it's very dark and very scary, and there's a
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big warning and a call to action for people that
I think the left wing law fier superstructure is the
single biggest threat to MAGA, and we can talk about that,
but I'll tell you, with this particular administration, I feel
a confidence that we're going to see some investigations and
maybe people won't get fully held.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
To account the way that they deserve.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'm way too cynical to promise that to the audience,
but I will tell you that there are some really obvious,
glaring violations of the law that are going to be
pressed by this administration. And I put the book out
on I guess what was about three weeks ago, and
three days later they announced that they were investigating Kiss.
James was the number one person that I called for
an investigation into, and I called for six to ten
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investigations in the book. But she's the number one because
what she did was it was so blatantly a violation
of due process rights and equal justice under a law,
the fifth and sixth Amendment.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
And then when we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What happened the other day where the penalty against Donald
Trump was thrown out, it was thrown out for the
eighth Amendment cruel and unusual punishment, which, of course it
was Donald Trump had, according to James and a judge
Arthur Engern, defrauded these banks.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
But these banks loved dealing with Trump. They loved dealing
with him.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Trump didn't owe them a penny, They didn't launch one
complaint about him. But she had claimed that he'd undervalued
his properties, and thus he had committed a violation that
needed over three hundred million dollars in penalty plus interest,
which amounted to over half a billion dollars in the end,
all of this was clearly cruel and unusual. We've never
seen anything done like this to a president. We've never
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seen this done to really any individual at all. She's
supposed to be representing the state of New York, but
she ends up kind of forcing these banks into participating
into this, and the banks kind.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Of liked Trump, and some of them really liked Trump, and.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
All that was design to be a political persecution, and
so she's the number one person should be investigated, and
clearly that penalty should have been vacated, and I'm glad it.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Was, But I think it is even deeper than Donald Trump.
I mean that penalty also included his sons and meant
he couldn't be involved in business. It meant they couldn't
be involved in business in New York. I mean, it
was wide ranging. How damaging it was to the Trump family.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Your various dude to point this out, because this was
the case where they tried to bar all sorts of
different Trumps from being able to apply their craft to
practice real estate in New York, a city where they're iconic.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
We're the most famous family in the city.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Of the most famous city in the country, and they
were trying to ban Donald and Eric from being able
to practice for five years. In initially, James had eyes
on avodka and people who were not even really in
this sort of game, the real estate game, and that's
how nitive they were trying to be simply for the
crime of being the Trumps.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. I think this was very eye opening.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
For even people on the left because it was the
penalty was so big. I think the penalty was so
big because they thought, well, if you make it this big,
then the people have to get behind it, because how
could you possibly get a penalty this big if the
person weren't very, very corrupt, if the person weren't a criminal. However,
I think that backfired on them because people went, there's
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no victim, and now he has to pay half a
billion dollars. This is the former president of the United States,
and everybody was saying, this wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
If you weren't running Again, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
This is stuff we see in other countries, not in
the United States.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's right, yeah, I make this point. This is stuff
that you would see in Brazil Venezuela. It's not something
we're accustomed to seeing in the United States, and we
were way too casual about it. Which is one of
the reason why I wanted to write the book is
that Trump had to go through six of these cases simultaneously,
all of which I'm a pretty tough guy. I think
I would have been the fetal position on one of
these things. And he had six of them, and he
somehow ran for president and won during all this, which
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is colossally unjust, and we just can't take it for
granted that we happen to have a guy at the
top who has a lot of rhinocero skin and has
a just a huge force of will. And let's be
Frank is incredibly rich, and that was a huge advantage here.
Chiss Shames was holding on or I'm sure she is.
She's gonna have to give it back momentarily. I have
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million dollars of his money that he had to put
up on bond. I mean, he should get paid interest
on that, to be Frank, because it was an illegitimate penalty.
He still had to put up one hundred and seventy
five million, even for billionaires. I don't know a lot
of them, Tutor, but I know enough to know that
not all of them are liquid enough where they can
just find one hundred and seventy five million lying around,
even if they're paper on paper, they're extremely wealthy. It's
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a lot of money. He'd put this up in the
middle of a campaign, trying to win a campaign. We've
never seen anything like this in America. It's a disgrace,
and the people's heads don't roll. If there aren't consequences,
they're going to do it again. And you also point
something out that's so big. It's not just Trump. Trump's
the main guy, but I go through with dozens of
other people who have been wrapped up in this. It's
just not as headline grabbing because they're not running for
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president and are the president.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But other people that are running have to worry about this.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And I say that from personal experience because I ran
for governor and then you come out of that race
and we had we had legal battles with the state,
and we had threats from the state, and I was like,
oh my gosh, we're going to be here. I am
not running and we're going to be targeted by these
lunatics here, and that comes into play when you think
about running again. Look, my kids are going into their
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last six years of school. I don't want to go
to prison. I don't want to be accused of some
crime I didn't commit. I want to be there for them.
How insane is it to think that running for office
and I'm not rich, I'm not in that situation, so
I'm like, gosh, they could just disappear me into a
prison somewhere. And that's honestly a consideration. Now when you
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run for office, you're.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Right to point this out because this is one of
the things that I think is the biggest threat, is
that we're constructing a system so that normal human beings
are not going to seek the highest office in the land.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
You'll have to be a very strange person.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And I mean, to want to be president, obviously, you
have to have a massive ego to think that you
should be president. But it's the We would like to
have people that have some sense of shame or humility
to be able to run, and we can't.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
This is a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I talk about this a little bit, just as a
brief aside in the book about how the obsession with
Trump's tax returns, like, oh, what do they want them for?
I mean, what are they trying to do to prove
he's not a good businessman or he's not charitable enough.
And then they finally got some of them and Rachel
Maddow played it up and they were perfectly fine, you
paid a huge amount of taxes and there's nothing wrong
with any of them.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They just want to have a public hole and.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oscoy to harass people so that normal people who have
a sense of dignity, who don't who don't want their
name drag through the mud, aren't going to enter civic life.
That's not going to help our country. It's going to
hurt our country. But the left doesn't care because they
see this as a way of assuring that they'll have
more political power. That's what law fair is all about.
It is making the legal system, the judicial system, a
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part of their apparatus for constructing power around themselves in
a permanent capacity.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
That's what it is. That's what they're doing, and to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Understand the mechanics of it is very fundamental to us
saving the republic.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So they passed this law in Michigan in I think
it was the end of twenty two and it was
going into effect in twenty three, so I ran in
twenty two. They passed it after the election, it went
into effect in twenty three, and that was that you,
if you are an elected official, you have to disclose
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all of your finances, and if you are running for office,
you have to disclose all of your finances, which I
think that for someone who is running for office, oftentimes
it is someone who has been very successful, because it's
extremely expensive, and that to me is a deterrent to
have somebody going because you know, it's why is it
anybody's business what you've made over the last.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Year or two years, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And so they passed this and then they put it
in retroactive, so they go after everybody who's run in
the past and say you have to disclose your finances
and if you don't disclose your finances, then you get fined.
And I said to my attorney, how is it possible
that they can retroactively force me to put everything out
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there about my and your husband has to as well,
So your spouse has to also disclose everything financially. Whitmer
had before this went into effect, moved all of her
money into LLCs that no one could see. So her
report is like, Oh, all this money went into an LLC,
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you don't have any detail about it. And I'm like,
this is this is so it's a stupid because you
pass these.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Laws just to pass the law, and the.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Actual elected officials they know how the law works, so
they manipulate everything so it doesn't matter anyway. But anybody
who comes into it unknowing, they're like sitting there with
the pants down.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I just asked the audience to do this test on yourself.
It's like for me, I've never missed a tax payment.
I pay six figures in taxes. I'm a good American.
I've never been arrested for anything. I don't want to
have a public holenoscopy for my finances for the public
if I ran for office, that doesn't That's just the
sort of thing where with my personality, I don't want that.
My wife is a private person. She practices medicine, curing
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cancer of the people.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
In the community.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I don't want her to have to go through all
that stuff because her husband wants might want to get
into politics one day.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
That doesn't make any sense to me. That does not
make America better. Does that make America better?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Or is this a tool of the left trying to
get some of our best and brightest people out of
the political space.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's obviously what it is, and that's what they were.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Everything that they did to Donald Trump wasn't just about
Trump and his quote, which I refer to millions of
times the book, and not millions, but it's several times
in the book.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
They're not coming after me, They're coming after you. I'm
just in the way.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That is the one time when you've got to take
Trump literally. He's being dead serious about this. Yes, they're
trying to get the bench, people like you who are
warming up in the bullpen, who are ready to go
to say, you know what, never mind, I'm gonna go
make some money and hang out with my kids and
I'm gonna go enjoy America and I'm not going to
get involved.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
That's not going to help us. And that's their whole plan.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean this is a state. In Michigan.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You can't foia the governor, you can't foia the legislature,
but if you run for office, they can look through
everything you've ever done in your life. It's shocking. So
once you're in office, you're totally protected. Nobody can see anything.
And I even talked to a Republican and I said,
while you guys are in control, pass a bill to
say you want to have the legislature to have FOYA
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and to have the governor be subject to FOYA.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they said.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
This person said to me, we we don't want to
do that. It'll just complicate things. Then we have to
have a second email. And I'm like, it doesn't even
that you should. The public should know what you're doing.
You're like, I'll just game it.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
See and it's something if then you know everything about
you before you took office, even private stuff, but then
once you're in office, then they can be secretive. I mean,
it just shows you that it's just we've such a
systemic rot and that's why we got to start dealing
with it. We can't let people get away with everything.
We can't have two tiers of justice. Are you there's
three tiers of justice? Now that there's the And I
think your point is illustrates this your last anecdote, because
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it's not just that there's a system of justice for
some people, that there's the system of justice for President
Trump or just by breathing the error.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
You get a half a billion dollar penalty, have a
billion dollar penalty.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But then there's this third tier, this Comy Brennan Clapper tier,
where you get CNN contributorships and you get book deals
because you've evaded the law. And I believe we'll find
out broke the law eventually, and that's not okay either.
So we've really got to start making hay while the
sun shining here. And it feels like with the team
in place, with Cash and Dan and with Ed Martin,
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and it feels like we might be able to start
getting some results here.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That is what I think has been so shocking is
when the book came out about Joe Biden and what's
his name, Tapper was out there saying, oh, look at
what I've done. I've exposed all of this, and I
was horrified because I'm like you, guys, Jake Tapper saw
it the whole time he was covering for it. He
even admits that in the debate he was like, oh crap,
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like we're busted, and I don't believe for a minute
that was the first time he noticed Joe was longer.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
He knew the entire time they all knew the entire time.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now you've got the guy who said I testified that
he was okay, but I only met him a twice
in person and twice on the phone.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
This is shocking stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So I think you and I might be on a
similar page here, which no one is. I feel like
no one's with me on this, but maybe you are.
I think there was no cover up. I don't think
it was the greatest cover up of all time, and
there's zero coverup. We all knew Biden was in deep
mental decline. We all knew that his doctors had been
lying by his mental conditions. My previous book, Breaking Biden,
was a deep dive in the Biden family and their corruption,
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a New York Times bestseller. The stuff was not secret.
I spent a lot of time researching this family. We
all knew he was in steady decline. This was the
media trying to cover their own asses because they had
signed up that, yeah, we're going to roll with Biden,
and then they realized it wasn't going to work and
they were going to lose badly, and they were just
trying to cover for themselves because they're part of the
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Democrat apparatus. That gets Democrats elected, the establishing media, the
Jake Tappers of the world, and they'd come up with
some way to scapegoat a bunch of.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
People who are irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
There's not one person who's called out in that in
that book, and I read the book, who is going
to be relevant going forward? It's all personal airing of
grievances about people who are out of power, part of
Biden world and will never return to power.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
So it's very convenient to note that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. I believe that.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
This was they felt they could get away with it
because they've always been kind of a group management company.
When they've gone in it's been like, we have this
core team. There's a president, and he gets to call
the shots to a certain point, but we all we
all it is group think. It is not the way
that one guy goes I think Obama had a lot
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of control, but I still think there are a lot
of people around him that were like, he's a he's
a junior senator. We can make this guy do whatever
we want. Yes, and they and they didn't think they'd
ever get busted.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
No, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And yeah, the whole poll up bureau motto model that
they had, where they had this core team of advisors
and some of which were unknown. There's even one name
apparently in the inner circle that I didn't even know
after I spent a year and a half researching this guy,
so I knew that all the others, so I think
I had a good sense of what was going on.
But these people making decisions, plus the auto pen stuff,
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obviously we've got to start investigating all this because not
all this legal, and if we spend time on it,
we'll learn some of it was illegal.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And hopefully people get held to account.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
But it is pretty wild that the public thinks they're
electing one really odd old person, and then it ends
up you get this team of fools who are running
our country without any accountability, and then the media covers
up for it for the whole time until it's really
convenient for them to stop covering up for it. It's
just such a disgrace and that's why we need to
repeal and replace the media.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I mean, and even when you look at the team
that was in there, and you had Jen Saki with
her weird intern that they were doing all the social
media like this is I mean, when you look back
at that now, you go, can you imagine if Trump
did that, people would go crazy, group crazy crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, and you don't know how who's really calling the shots.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And it is a town where a lot of people
who are really ambitious but are not really smarter qualified
can can get pretty high in Washington.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So that's what I want to I want to ask
what you think going forward because I've seen this social
media craze. I mean, obviously we saw Whitmer doing all
the weird you know, she had the potato and then
she had the the dorito that she fed to the
woman on the ground and all of these very strange
social media of things. But I think that I thought
that was weird.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I really did.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I was like, this is totally bizarre and totally inappropriate
for anybody who is an executive. If I had done
this at my previous company, people would I would be fired.
You know, this is the kind of stuff that you
fire employees for. And this is the CEO of the state.
Gavin Newsom has gone, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Totally off the rails. My husband the other night said
to me, he.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Said, oh, but that's not really him. That's like a
a just a Twitter account that is like, you know,
supportive of him. I said, it is his press office,
Like what are you talking about? This is his official account.
What do you think is happening? It's insane.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
This reminds me of what I tell my newsroom, which
is that when the press secretary speaks, when Kareem John
Pierre speaks, that when you're when we're putting up front
page headlines, generally the default should not be Kareem John
Pierre Colan. When we're phrasing the headline, it's white House Colon,
Like this is the White House. He's the spokesperson for
the White House. That's who she is speaking for. This
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is these spokespeople for, you know, the governor of Michigan,
the governor of California.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
They've got these weird That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And you can't it's not a joke that you've a
press office. The press office is supposed to liaison with
the public so that you could theoretically spend your time
governing if you're the governor, and you can do stuff,
and you can meet with people, and you can conduct
means and do the job that is necessary, and these
are the people who talk to the press in the
meantime while you're working. Now, let's just use as a
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campaign troll operation. And I just hope that the public
rejects it. And that one of the things that Trump does,
and he obviously a very aggressive trolley press team.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But first of all, I think some.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Of that is because they do they don't have a
compliant press that will just print all their stuff unless
they do what they need to do to get attention.
But the other thing is Trump in the meantime is
operating very efficiently. I've never seen anyone do so much
in seven months, and so you get you get away
with that. Gavin Newsom in California is perfect examples. I'm California.
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His record is atrocious. He's done nothing. He hasn't even
done the left wing stuff he's promised, like he talks
a big game on left wing stuff like high speed reel,
like he didn't even build that and you know, water
desalination stuff like that. He can't do any of the
things that he's talked about. He wasn't prepared for the fires.
He isn't a helped homelessness, He's in't helped traffic. The
LA Airport's the worst airport in the world. And then
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we're supposed to the World Cup and the Olympics back
to back, and how are people to fly in the
place is a complete disaster. He hasn't fixed one problem
in thirty years in public life. But he's got a
great press office. They're hilarious at trolling Trump.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Come on, no that so that, I think is what
you're saying is so important for the American people to hear.
This may be funny, and there is an opening I
hear for late night television. If that's where he wants
to go, I welcome him to go there, but this
is not how you lead, and your record should be
on how you lead. And really that's why people there.
(27:54):
I've known people who are hardcore Republicans, mega Republicans have said,
I don't love what tru says on social media, but
I love what he does because that's actually more important.
The social media part isn't What you actually do is
more important. What he's doing in Washington, d C. You've
got leftists who are just screaming and crying over what
he's doing in Washington, DC, and Democrats on the ground
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that are like, thank goodness, we're safe.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
This is an incredibly important point.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And then, because remember, not everyone loves Trump Trump's Twitter,
We've all sort of accepted Trump's Twitter at this point,
which is which is which is fine. I've always been
okay with it, but it's the I completely understood people
who didn't love it. I mean, now, I think after
they tried to kill him a bunch of times and
bankrupt them and bankrupt his family and throw him in jail,
and yeah, yeah, now you do whatever he wants as
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hard as I'm but you know, I totally understood the
beginning of his administration because.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I was the guy who at Bright Bart we put
everything on the line.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
We were the first major outlet to get phind Trump,
and we put everything on the line. And a lot
of it had to do with the immigration and I
wanted to see the immigration the boarder get sealed up
and for us to crack down on the v overstays
and to start resetting America's immigration pollsy and that got
pushed way to the bottom of the pile. And he
had a good run the last year year and a
half on immigration, but we had to wait two and
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a half years before we got any movement whatsoever on immigration.
That was wildly frustrating. When he's out there tweeting all
the time, I understand it. But the bottom line is
is that he does attempt to govern every day. He
does wake up in the morning and try to get
stuff done done. I don't see any evidence of that
from the Gavenusans of the world. And I've been one
of his constituents for a very long time. I do
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not see him getting up in the morning and trying
to get stuff done other than get more men on
women's podiums in sports.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
But see that, And I've kept you long, but I'll
just end it on this. That is what I see
from the left because Barack Obama was all about making
sure we had secure borders. But then they saw an
opening for a message, not for governance, not for policy.
They see openings now for messages. Look, oh, we can
say that he's not a humanitarian, that he doesn't take
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care of people. Actually don't agree with an open border,
but they think it's something you can get elected on.
It's the same thing with everything that they're doing right now.
They agree with keeping communities safe. They can't say that
because they think that they can win voters by saying
the opposite. They don't have any idea where they're going.
They're looking for a winning message, they're not looking for
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beyond that. It is like the woman who cannot wait
to get to her wedding but doesn't understand that she's
going to end up being married.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That is really, really a good point. And I think
about this all the time because some of these ideas.
Trump throws stuff out there, and if you have a
good idea, and then I marinate on the idea, and
I realized it's actually fantastic idea, like the DC crackdown
on crime, and I was thinking, that sounds good to me.
I lived in DC and I was there from twenty
thirteen to twenty twenty one, and it went from feeling
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like the center of the world to a place that
I was excited to leave that it was a bummer.
It was a more crime written places like where I
lived in and then nearby iconic Georgetown with the cobblestone
streets and just it was just one of the coolest
spots on earth. And then it just kind of every
other store was out of business or boarded up, and
it was just it's just terrible. And he left DC
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and around that time, and you must have come back
and thought, what is going on here?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
This is horrible, and.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
He said, I'm going to do something about it because
I can. And the more I thought about it, the
more I thought it was a great idea. And then
the more I thought it was a great idea, the
more the left would commit themselves to know, this is
a terrible idea.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
What We're going to clean up America's capital.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We're going to make it so that tourists can come
here and appreciate our monuments and our museums and the
it's actually a very beautiful city when it's.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
It's cleaned up with our architecture.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And people are fighting against that, you're just pro shoplifter
and pro murderer and pro vandal. What is this posture
that the left is just like, yeah, we just were
for vandalism now because Trump is against it. It's so
colossally stupid, and they can't stop themselves, Tutor. That's what's
so wild. They can't help themselves. One time, it's just
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Lucy with the football. Every time Charlie Brown goes for
that big kick. That's the modern day Democrat Party.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yes, yes, Trump exposed them and they cannot figure out
and expose the media. I mean that was also another
genius thing. When he was saying fake news, fake news.
Everybody was like, oh, he's a little aggressive with this, but.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It was fake.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It was fake and he knew it. And you guys
have done such a great job of this. I want
to get to your book really quick. Tell us where
people can find it. It's called breaking the Law. Exposing
the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. Critical
because like you said, this is him, we know him.
He's big. He could fight it. He was blessed to
be able to fight it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
We can't.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Well, let me give you three reasons why I think
the book is a must read it and the reviews
are coming in really good.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
New York Times bestseller, and so thank you. I you
picked it up.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I always appreciate that those accolades make it easier to
pitch it to people, So thank you. But the first
one is you will enjoy reading it. I think it's
a fun read. Pride myself in my books, and I
think this is my best written one yet and it's
my shortest, So that's an incentive, but the two may
your points for this audience in terms of an activist audience.
First of all, this is a primer for investigation season.
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We're already seeing two investigations, one into Jacksmith, one until
Letitia James. These things take time, and I go through
the six cases against Trump methodically, and I think clearly,
where you'll understand the cases, you'll be able to differentiate them.
I know I couldn't fully differentiate them when I took
on the book. That was part of why I was
incentivized to do it. I know some attorneys out there
maybe you can, but it's tough to do for normal people.
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And I'm not an attorney, but I consulted with a
lot of them. So I think it's a nice way
to present the material in a way where you'll understand
where these investigations are going and you'll get to enjoy
them a little more when we get good news like
what we've got this this week. But the other one
is a warning and that if we don't get engaged
on a civic level, we've beaten back Hollywood. We're beating
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the establishment media, but the left is moved on and
they're using the law fair superstructure to try to destroy MAGA,
and there are some clear reforms we need to make
and when if you're not in a position where you're
a li and are going to be engaging in the reforms,
we need to be holding our elected leaders to account
and we need to be highly involved off your elections,
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down ticket races. We've got to be focused on this.
We've stayed a wartime footing because they're working. George Soros,
Mark Elias. Some of these people who are familiar to you,
and many your that are not familiar to you, are
working right now to try to destroy MAGA using the
lawfare superstructure. And I share with you who those are
and what we can do stop them.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, I cannot agree with you more. Get we get
lazy in the off here and there is no off here.
I always tell people now there's no off here. Stop
saying that that is not a thing exactly right.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
And this I've evolved in this a little bit. I
wanted peacetime after Trump won the first time.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I knew it wasn't going to be, but I wanted it,
and it just wasn't and never again will not even
cross my mind until we're winning forty plus dates.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I agree, I agree, well, I appreciate it's been a
great conversation.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Alex Marlow check him out, check out his podcast, but
also always go to Breitbart. That's a trust to place
to get your news. We're so happy you came on today.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Thank you, Peter, and I love to return the favor
of the Albus Marris Show, so just let me know
when you want to come by.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
That would be great, awesome, thank you, and thank you
all for joining the Tutor Dixon podcast. As always, head
over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts, and you can watch it on Rumble
or YouTube at Tutor Dixon and join us next time.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast today.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I am really excited because we have Alex Marlow here.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
He is the editor in chief of Breitbart News.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And for those of you who don't know my background,
I started in this world, in the media world with
real America's voice, and one of my go to sources
was always Breitbart because they are cutting edge, they always
have the inside scoop, and they are a great organization.
But they don't get enough play because Google did this
(00:29):
horrible thing where they took them off. And honestly, I
think it's relevant right now because we're talking about D
banking and the President has been talking about D banking,
but it's more than just D banking. What happened to Breitbart.
I think that they were a major source for such
a long time and then the leftists tried to hide them.
So for all of you who are looking for the
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real news, it's Breitbart and Alex Marlow is the editor
in chief.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
He is also the host of the Alex Marlow Show.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Podcast, and he has a new book out called Breaking Law,
exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. Alex,
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Tutor is such a nice introduction. Thank you for having
me on the show. And I'll tell you the Google
stuff is so important. We really were the canaries in
the coal mine for cancel culture. They try to destroy
us with all sorts of smears, particularly that we were
anti Semitic, even though the company was founded in by
Jews and the idea for it came from Israel and
were one hundred percent pro Israel, and it's just sort
of especially in this moment, but they would come up
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with anything try to smear us. And then right before
the twenty twenty election, Google completely took us off. So
you can't get Breitbart in Google searches unless you use
the word Breitbart. That was the little technicality they used.
So we didn't assue them into the ground, which I
don't know. Could you see Google in the ground. They're
pretty greright exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's the problem. They have so much money.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, So you know, this is a real positive that
could happen with the AI era, which is maybe people
are not as hooked on using Google searches, which is
very bad for the conservative movement because they cooked the
results to favor left wing causes and to try to
destroy conservative businesses.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Too, which is important and Breitbart.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
My experience with Breitbart is that there is an expert
in almost every area, so it's a massive amount of
writers that are out there every day.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Doing real journalism.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And I think that's important to say because I think
a lot of these blogs have turned into news sites,
but they're not because they're not true journalism. You have
to question some of the things that you're getting. That
is not the case with Breitbart. I've always been so
impressed with everything you guys do, and I just I
want to make sure people know that's that's a go
to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Thank you. A couple of responses to that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
First of all, my starting lineup is as good as
any starting lineup in media. I guarantee you that if
I took my best world reporter, my best economics reporter,
you know, my best political reporter, I would kick the
Wall Street journals. But it's not even close. They have
more resources, so they have more depth than I have.
Ot have as many people, so I can't cover quite
(02:58):
as much ground, but we cover a lot of essential stuff,
and I think because of that, we're actually the best
at curation. I think if you go to Breitbart, you're
not going to see any fat. There's no fat. I've
worked on that over many years. I've been at her
in chief for eleven years, and so nothing there is
going to be boring or bad and everything. If you're
a talk show host, the whole goal. Because I grew
up on talk radio that was my entree into conservative news.
(03:20):
I want it so that I could because I watched
Andrew Brechbart do this in real time. I want to
be able to send a story to The biggest host
in the world at the time was Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know you're in the Clay and Buck network. I
want klaim Buck and.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You to be able to take the story and just
to read it on air to a vast audience and
not a thing twice about it, because when they see
that orange be at the top, they know this thing
is legit and they don't have to double check it.
And you can't do that with your sources on X
the Everything app, which I enjoyed Twitter as much as anyone,
but it's in the influencer culture we're in. People are
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trying to get out there first, even if it's not accurate,
and they're being a little sensational if that gets more clicks.
I can't do that running a big news company, and
we are one hundred percent focus on accuracy first, and
that's why hopefully we burned your trust.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and that actually it's it's one of those things
where I see something and I go to your site
to see if I can verify it. Like yesterday there
were there was this and in this whole era on Monday.
But last week, so there was this I guess it
was a protest in Virginia, and I'm sure you saw
the woman who held up the sign, sure that said
(04:27):
the horrible thing about it if trans people can't use
your bathroom, and then she said to win some sears,
then black people can't use my.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Water for fountain, right.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, and people were horrified.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But honestly, I saw it and I was like, I
don't know if this is true, Like, how could it
be true?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
How could the left have gone to that level? Yeah,
it's shocking.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And that's and that's one of the things where you
can rely on us to kind of get to the
bottom of those types of stories on your behalf, because
I'm not going to put up anything that is especially.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
The AI era.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I we have so many reps because we do one
hundred plus stories a day. We've been doing it for
sixteen seventeen years since we relaunched Breitbart, and so it's
one of these things where we're accustomed to doing. The
first thing is if this is too good to be true,
it probably is, So let's work it through. And if
you're trying to, you know, dominate on the X platform,
you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
You gotta you.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Gotta double check it. But one thing that is notable, though,
is that we assume the left is will do any
of that. I mean, they tried to kill President Trump
a couple times last year, and there was all these
people championing online. Just the amount of people who call
for assassinations of President Trump online is just is just amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And the it is a normative view.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I mean, the most obvious news cycle that's a corollarya
is the Sydney Sweeney one recently, where there are people
in the top of the left wing commentariat who were
saying this is a right wing hoax, that they didn't
say that this was racist and Nazis, and then you
go to TikTok and every other post was, oh, this
is a Nazi ad and it's like You guys can't
fool us with that anymore. We know how you operate.
(06:04):
You just you have no control, you've no governor, you've
no sensors. So that's why people see signs like that,
and me, the presumption is it's legit. Maybe it's not
every once in a while, but for the most part,
that stuff is real.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
That's what the left does.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But I honestly I wondered when that American Eagle ad
came out because we shop there. I have four girls,
they're all at that age where that's the store to
go to, and it had been it had been dropping
off in sales, so they did this as a way
to kind of build back their sales, and then they
got hit with this backlash, and I thought, I hope
(06:36):
this doesn't kill another business, because it is really hard
to find clothes for kids because you don't have that
many stores you can actually go to, and kids are
all awkward sizes.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
They've got to try things on. So we went to
them all last weekend and the American Eagle was shoulder
to shoulder with people.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Oh wild, I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Thought was a great commentary on how people are not
believing this bologna anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
This is such an interesting topic and has nothing to
do with anything I've been reporting on. But I just
a part of part of my life because I've got
four young kids, is that you want to I'm pro.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Boycott because I think it's good for the soul.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't know if it always hurts businesses, but I
think that sometimes I don't feel good buying Nike because
of the stuff they've done over the years. We're not
going to and I don't think I'm gonna be able
to destroy Nike single handedly, even with my platform and Brightboard.
I can't even announce it to my audience. I'm not
buying Nike. I don't know if I can destroy them.
It's just but I will tell you I don't feel
good with their products, so I don't. But if you
think about some of these these you know, material retailers.
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If you want a boycott a Walmart because you don't
like their predatory business practices, then you go to Amazon
with world's richest man who owns the Washington Post, which
just puts out NonStop assaults on our on our republic,
And so you.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Don't want to do that, So okay, so I'll go
to Target.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
But Target was the original Let's have the guys in
the girls' bathroom people, so you want to do that,
and then we're going to shop, and then it becomes
very very challenging to do that. Disney is so repulsive
in so many ways, but the stuff on Netflix is worse,
and the stuff on Disney, it just is.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's just worse.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And so it's like, if I'm boycott in Disney, then
that means what am I supposed to use Netflix? Where
the corporate board donates a ninety nine to one percent
to Democrats, and then they put out even worse content
for kids. So it's it's really really hard, and we
all got to work together, dude.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
This is the point. We got to work as a
conservative movement. We got to sort this stuff out together.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And that's why I think it's so important to have
these platforms where we can talk. And I am grateful
to claim Buck that they give me this platform. And
that's why I do want to get into what happened
to Donald Trump, because it was something that we really
weren't allowed to talk to talk about during the campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Obviously we all did, but the left was like.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hey, you can't say that Donald Trump is being targeted
he's a bad guy, and we're all watching this, especially
business people, and saying what happened in New York is unreasonable,
It's unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
How can there be no a victimless.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Crime that is created by the Attorney general or the
district attorney and then you and then you owe half
a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, the Tiss James case is I'm happy this is
getting a lot of scrutiny because what I write about
in Breaking the Law is I frame this up as
we're starting an investigation season. It's a more upbeat book
than some of my past books. I would say it's
in a way, it's my most upbeat, even though some
of it's very dark and very scary, and there's a
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big warning and a call to action for people that
I think the left wing law fier superstructure is the
single biggest threat to MAGA, and we can talk about that,
but I'll tell you, with this particular administration, I feel
a confidence that we're going to see some investigations and
maybe people won't get fully held.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
To account the way that they deserve.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'm way too cynical to promise that to the audience,
but I will tell you that there are some really obvious,
glaring violations of the law that are going to be
pressed by this administration. And I put the book out
on I guess what was about three weeks ago, and
three days later they announced that they were investigating Kiss.
James was the number one person that I called for
an investigation into, and I called for six to ten
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investigations in the book. But she's the number one because
what she did was it was so blatantly a violation
of due process rights and equal justice under a law,
the fifth and sixth Amendment.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
And then when we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What happened the other day where the penalty against Donald
Trump was thrown out, it was thrown out for the
eighth Amendment cruel and unusual punishment, which, of course it
was Donald Trump had, according to James and a judge
Arthur Engern, defrauded these banks.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
But these banks loved dealing with Trump. They loved dealing
with him.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Trump didn't owe them a penny, They didn't launch one
complaint about him. But she had claimed that he'd undervalued
his properties, and thus he had committed a violation that
needed over three hundred million dollars in penalty plus interest,
which amounted to over half a billion dollars in the end,
all of this was clearly cruel and unusual. We've never
seen anything done like this to a president. We've never
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seen this done to really any individual at all. She's
supposed to be representing the state of New York, but
she ends up kind of forcing these banks into participating
into this, and the banks kind.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Of liked Trump, and some of them really liked Trump, and.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
All that was design to be a political persecution, and
so she's the number one person should be investigated, and
clearly that penalty should have been vacated, and I'm glad it.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Was, But I think it is even deeper than Donald Trump.
I mean that penalty also included his sons and meant
he couldn't be involved in business. It meant they couldn't
be involved in business in New York. I mean, it
was wide ranging. How damaging it was to the Trump family.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Your various dude to point this out, because this was
the case where they tried to bar all sorts of
different Trumps from being able to apply their craft to
practice real estate in New York, a city where they're iconic.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
We're the most famous family in the city.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Of the most famous city in the country, and they
were trying to ban Donald and Eric from being able
to practice for five years. In initially, James had eyes
on avodka and people who were not even really in
this sort of game, the real estate game, and that's
how nitive they were trying to be simply for the
crime of being the Trumps.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. I think this was very eye opening.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
For even people on the left because it was the
penalty was so big. I think the penalty was so
big because they thought, well, if you make it this big,
then the people have to get behind it, because how
could you possibly get a penalty this big if the
person weren't very, very corrupt, if the person weren't a criminal. However,
I think that backfired on them because people went, there's
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no victim, and now he has to pay half a
billion dollars. This is the former president of the United States,
and everybody was saying, this wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
If you weren't running Again, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
This is stuff we see in other countries, not in
the United States.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's right, yeah, I make this point. This is stuff
that you would see in Brazil Venezuela. It's not something
we're accustomed to seeing in the United States, and we
were way too casual about it. Which is one of
the reason why I wanted to write the book is
that Trump had to go through six of these cases simultaneously,
all of which I'm a pretty tough guy. I think
I would have been the fetal position on one of
these things. And he had six of them, and he
somehow ran for president and won during all this, which
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is colossally unjust, and we just can't take it for
granted that we happen to have a guy at the
top who has a lot of rhinocero skin and has
a just a huge force of will. And let's be
Frank is incredibly rich, and that was a huge advantage here.
Chiss Shames was holding on or I'm sure she is.
She's gonna have to give it back momentarily. I have
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million dollars of his money that he had to put
up on bond. I mean, he should get paid interest
on that, to be Frank, because it was an illegitimate penalty.
He still had to put up one hundred and seventy
five million, even for billionaires. I don't know a lot
of them, Tutor, but I know enough to know that
not all of them are liquid enough where they can
just find one hundred and seventy five million lying around,
even if they're paper on paper, they're extremely wealthy. It's
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a lot of money. He'd put this up in the
middle of a campaign, trying to win a campaign. We've
never seen anything like this in America. It's a disgrace,
and the people's heads don't roll. If there aren't consequences,
they're going to do it again. And you also point
something out that's so big. It's not just Trump. Trump's
the main guy, but I go through with dozens of
other people who have been wrapped up in this. It's
just not as headline grabbing because they're not running for
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president and are the president.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But other people that are running have to worry about this.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And I say that from personal experience because I ran
for governor and then you come out of that race
and we had we had legal battles with the state,
and we had threats from the state, and I was like,
oh my gosh, we're going to be here. I am
not running and we're going to be targeted by these
lunatics here, and that comes into play when you think
about running again. Look, my kids are going into their
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last six years of school. I don't want to go
to prison. I don't want to be accused of some
crime I didn't commit. I want to be there for them.
How insane is it to think that running for office
and I'm not rich, I'm not in that situation, so
I'm like, gosh, they could just disappear me into a
prison somewhere. And that's honestly a consideration. Now when you
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run for office, you're.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Right to point this out because this is one of
the things that I think is the biggest threat, is
that we're constructing a system so that normal human beings
are not going to seek the highest office in the land.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
You'll have to be a very strange person.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And I mean, to want to be president, obviously, you
have to have a massive ego to think that you
should be president. But it's the We would like to
have people that have some sense of shame or humility
to be able to run, and we can't.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
This is a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I talk about this a little bit, just as a
brief aside in the book about how the obsession with
Trump's tax returns, like, oh, what do they want them for?
I mean, what are they trying to do to prove
he's not a good businessman or he's not charitable enough.
And then they finally got some of them and Rachel
Maddow played it up and they were perfectly fine, you
paid a huge amount of taxes and there's nothing wrong
with any of them.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They just want to have a public hole and.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oscoy to harass people so that normal people who have
a sense of dignity, who don't who don't want their
name drag through the mud, aren't going to enter civic life.
That's not going to help our country. It's going to
hurt our country. But the left doesn't care because they
see this as a way of assuring that they'll have
more political power. That's what law fair is all about.
It is making the legal system, the judicial system, a
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part of their apparatus for constructing power around themselves in
a permanent capacity.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
That's what it is. That's what they're doing, and to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Understand the mechanics of it is very fundamental to us
saving the republic.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So they passed this law in Michigan in I think
it was the end of twenty two and it was
going into effect in twenty three, so I ran in
twenty two. They passed it after the election, it went
into effect in twenty three, and that was that you,
if you are an elected official, you have to disclose
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all of your finances, and if you are running for office,
you have to disclose all of your finances, which I
think that for someone who is running for office, oftentimes
it is someone who has been very successful, because it's
extremely expensive, and that to me is a deterrent to
have somebody going because you know, it's why is it
anybody's business what you've made over the last.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Year or two years, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And so they passed this and then they put it
in retroactive, so they go after everybody who's run in
the past and say you have to disclose your finances
and if you don't disclose your finances, then you get fined.
And I said to my attorney, how is it possible
that they can retroactively force me to put everything out
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there about my and your husband has to as well,
So your spouse has to also disclose everything financially. Whitmer
had before this went into effect, moved all of her
money into LLCs that no one could see. So her
report is like, Oh, all this money went into an LLC,
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you don't have any detail about it. And I'm like,
this is this is so it's a stupid because you
pass these.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Laws just to pass the law, and the.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Actual elected officials they know how the law works, so
they manipulate everything so it doesn't matter anyway. But anybody
who comes into it unknowing, they're like sitting there with
the pants down.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I just asked the audience to do this test on yourself.
It's like for me, I've never missed a tax payment.
I pay six figures in taxes. I'm a good American.
I've never been arrested for anything. I don't want to
have a public holenoscopy for my finances for the public
if I ran for office, that doesn't That's just the
sort of thing where with my personality, I don't want that.
My wife is a private person. She practices medicine, curing
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cancer of the people.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
In the community.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I don't want her to have to go through all
that stuff because her husband wants might want to get
into politics one day.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
That doesn't make any sense to me. That does not
make America better. Does that make America better?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Or is this a tool of the left trying to
get some of our best and brightest people out of
the political space.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's obviously what it is, and that's what they were.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Everything that they did to Donald Trump wasn't just about
Trump and his quote, which I refer to millions of
times the book, and not millions, but it's several times
in the book.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
They're not coming after me, They're coming after you. I'm
just in the way.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That is the one time when you've got to take
Trump literally. He's being dead serious about this. Yes, they're
trying to get the bench, people like you who are
warming up in the bullpen, who are ready to go
to say, you know what, never mind, I'm gonna go
make some money and hang out with my kids and
I'm gonna go enjoy America and I'm not going to
get involved.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
That's not going to help us. And that's their whole plan.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean this is a state. In Michigan.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You can't foia the governor, you can't foia the legislature,
but if you run for office, they can look through
everything you've ever done in your life. It's shocking. So
once you're in office, you're totally protected. Nobody can see anything.
And I even talked to a Republican and I said,
while you guys are in control, pass a bill to
say you want to have the legislature to have FOYA
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and to have the governor be subject to FOYA.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they said.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
This person said to me, we we don't want to
do that. It'll just complicate things. Then we have to
have a second email. And I'm like, it doesn't even
that you should. The public should know what you're doing.
You're like, I'll just game it.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
See and it's something if then you know everything about
you before you took office, even private stuff, but then
once you're in office, then they can be secretive. I mean,
it just shows you that it's just we've such a
systemic rot and that's why we got to start dealing
with it. We can't let people get away with everything.
We can't have two tiers of justice. Are you there's
three tiers of justice? Now that there's the And I
think your point is illustrates this your last anecdote, because
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it's not just that there's a system of justice for
some people, that there's the system of justice for President
Trump or just by breathing the error.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
You get a half a billion dollar penalty, have a
billion dollar penalty.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But then there's this third tier, this Comy Brennan Clapper tier,
where you get CNN contributorships and you get book deals
because you've evaded the law. And I believe we'll find
out broke the law eventually, and that's not okay either.
So we've really got to start making hay while the
sun shining here. And it feels like with the team
in place, with Cash and Dan and with Ed Martin,
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and it feels like we might be able to start
getting some results here.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That is what I think has been so shocking is
when the book came out about Joe Biden and what's
his name, Tapper was out there saying, oh, look at
what I've done. I've exposed all of this, and I
was horrified because I'm like you, guys, Jake Tapper saw
it the whole time he was covering for it. He
even admits that in the debate he was like, oh crap,
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like we're busted, and I don't believe for a minute
that was the first time he noticed Joe was longer.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
He knew the entire time they all knew the entire time.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now you've got the guy who said I testified that
he was okay, but I only met him a twice
in person and twice on the phone.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
This is shocking stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So I think you and I might be on a
similar page here, which no one is. I feel like
no one's with me on this, but maybe you are.
I think there was no cover up. I don't think
it was the greatest cover up of all time, and
there's zero coverup. We all knew Biden was in deep
mental decline. We all knew that his doctors had been
lying by his mental conditions. My previous book, Breaking Biden,
was a deep dive in the Biden family and their corruption,
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a New York Times bestseller. The stuff was not secret.
I spent a lot of time researching this family. We
all knew he was in steady decline. This was the
media trying to cover their own asses because they had
signed up that, yeah, we're going to roll with Biden,
and then they realized it wasn't going to work and
they were going to lose badly, and they were just
trying to cover for themselves because they're part of the
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Democrat apparatus. That gets Democrats elected, the establishing media, the
Jake Tappers of the world, and they'd come up with
some way to scapegoat a bunch of.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
People who are irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
There's not one person who's called out in that in
that book, and I read the book, who is going
to be relevant going forward? It's all personal airing of
grievances about people who are out of power, part of
Biden world and will never return to power.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
So it's very convenient to note that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. I believe that.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
This was they felt they could get away with it
because they've always been kind of a group management company.
When they've gone in it's been like, we have this
core team. There's a president, and he gets to call
the shots to a certain point, but we all we
all it is group think. It is not the way
that one guy goes I think Obama had a lot
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of control, but I still think there are a lot
of people around him that were like, he's a he's
a junior senator. We can make this guy do whatever
we want. Yes, and they and they didn't think they'd
ever get busted.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
No, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And yeah, the whole poll up bureau motto model that
they had, where they had this core team of advisors
and some of which were unknown. There's even one name
apparently in the inner circle that I didn't even know
after I spent a year and a half researching this guy,
so I knew that all the others, so I think
I had a good sense of what was going on.
But these people making decisions, plus the auto pen stuff,
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obviously we've got to start investigating all this because not
all this legal, and if we spend time on it,
we'll learn some of it was illegal.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And hopefully people get held to account.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
But it is pretty wild that the public thinks they're
electing one really odd old person, and then it ends
up you get this team of fools who are running
our country without any accountability, and then the media covers
up for it for the whole time until it's really
convenient for them to stop covering up for it. It's
just such a disgrace and that's why we need to
repeal and replace the media.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I mean, and even when you look at the team
that was in there, and you had Jen Saki with
her weird intern that they were doing all the social
media like this is I mean, when you look back
at that now, you go, can you imagine if Trump
did that, people would go crazy, group crazy crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, and you don't know how who's really calling the shots.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And it is a town where a lot of people
who are really ambitious but are not really smarter qualified
can can get pretty high in Washington.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So that's what I want to I want to ask
what you think going forward because I've seen this social
media craze. I mean, obviously we saw Whitmer doing all
the weird you know, she had the potato and then
she had the the dorito that she fed to the
woman on the ground and all of these very strange
social media of things. But I think that I thought
that was weird.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I really did.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I was like, this is totally bizarre and totally inappropriate
for anybody who is an executive. If I had done
this at my previous company, people would I would be fired.
You know, this is the kind of stuff that you
fire employees for. And this is the CEO of the state.
Gavin Newsom has gone, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Totally off the rails. My husband the other night said
to me, he.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Said, oh, but that's not really him. That's like a
a just a Twitter account that is like, you know,
supportive of him. I said, it is his press office,
Like what are you talking about? This is his official account.
What do you think is happening? It's insane.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
This reminds me of what I tell my newsroom, which
is that when the press secretary speaks, when Kareem John
Pierre speaks, that when you're when we're putting up front
page headlines, generally the default should not be Kareem John
Pierre Colan. When we're phrasing the headline, it's white House Colon,
Like this is the White House. He's the spokesperson for
the White House. That's who she is speaking for. This
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is these spokespeople for, you know, the governor of Michigan,
the governor of California.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
They've got these weird That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And you can't it's not a joke that you've a
press office. The press office is supposed to liaison with
the public so that you could theoretically spend your time
governing if you're the governor, and you can do stuff,
and you can meet with people, and you can conduct
means and do the job that is necessary, and these
are the people who talk to the press in the
meantime while you're working. Now, let's just use as a
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campaign troll operation. And I just hope that the public
rejects it. And that one of the things that Trump does,
and he obviously a very aggressive trolley press team.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But first of all, I think some.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Of that is because they do they don't have a
compliant press that will just print all their stuff unless
they do what they need to do to get attention.
But the other thing is Trump in the meantime is
operating very efficiently. I've never seen anyone do so much
in seven months, and so you get you get away
with that. Gavin Newsom in California is perfect examples. I'm California.
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His record is atrocious. He's done nothing. He hasn't even
done the left wing stuff he's promised, like he talks
a big game on left wing stuff like high speed reel,
like he didn't even build that and you know, water
desalination stuff like that. He can't do any of the
things that he's talked about. He wasn't prepared for the fires.
He isn't a helped homelessness, He's in't helped traffic. The
LA Airport's the worst airport in the world. And then
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we're supposed to the World Cup and the Olympics back
to back, and how are people to fly in the
place is a complete disaster. He hasn't fixed one problem
in thirty years in public life. But he's got a
great press office. They're hilarious at trolling Trump.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Come on, no that so that, I think is what
you're saying is so important for the American people to hear.
This may be funny, and there is an opening I
hear for late night television. If that's where he wants
to go, I welcome him to go there, but this
is not how you lead, and your record should be
on how you lead. And really that's why people there.
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I've known people who are hardcore Republicans, mega Republicans have said,
I don't love what tru says on social media, but
I love what he does because that's actually more important.
The social media part isn't What you actually do is
more important. What he's doing in Washington, d C. You've
got leftists who are just screaming and crying over what
he's doing in Washington, DC, and Democrats on the ground
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that are like, thank goodness, we're safe.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
This is an incredibly important point.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And then, because remember, not everyone loves Trump Trump's Twitter,
We've all sort of accepted Trump's Twitter at this point,
which is which is which is fine. I've always been
okay with it, but it's the I completely understood people
who didn't love it. I mean, now, I think after
they tried to kill him a bunch of times and
bankrupt them and bankrupt his family and throw him in jail,
and yeah, yeah, now you do whatever he wants as
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hard as I'm but you know, I totally understood the
beginning of his administration because.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I was the guy who at Bright Bart we put
everything on the line.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
We were the first major outlet to get phind Trump,
and we put everything on the line. And a lot
of it had to do with the immigration and I
wanted to see the immigration the boarder get sealed up
and for us to crack down on the v overstays
and to start resetting America's immigration pollsy and that got
pushed way to the bottom of the pile. And he
had a good run the last year year and a
half on immigration, but we had to wait two and
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a half years before we got any movement whatsoever on immigration.
That was wildly frustrating. When he's out there tweeting all
the time, I understand it. But the bottom line is
is that he does attempt to govern every day. He
does wake up in the morning and try to get
stuff done done. I don't see any evidence of that
from the Gavenusans of the world. And I've been one
of his constituents for a very long time. I do
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not see him getting up in the morning and trying
to get stuff done other than get more men on
women's podiums in sports.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
But see that, And I've kept you long, but I'll
just end it on this. That is what I see
from the left because Barack Obama was all about making
sure we had secure borders. But then they saw an
opening for a message, not for governance, not for policy.
They see openings now for messages. Look, oh, we can
say that he's not a humanitarian, that he doesn't take
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care of people. Actually don't agree with an open border,
but they think it's something you can get elected on.
It's the same thing with everything that they're doing right now.
They agree with keeping communities safe. They can't say that
because they think that they can win voters by saying
the opposite. They don't have any idea where they're going.
They're looking for a winning message, they're not looking for
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beyond that. It is like the woman who cannot wait
to get to her wedding but doesn't understand that she's
going to end up being married.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That is really, really a good point. And I think
about this all the time because some of these ideas.
Trump throws stuff out there, and if you have a
good idea, and then I marinate on the idea, and
I realized it's actually fantastic idea, like the DC crackdown
on crime, and I was thinking, that sounds good to me.
I lived in DC and I was there from twenty
thirteen to twenty twenty one, and it went from feeling
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like the center of the world to a place that
I was excited to leave that it was a bummer.
It was a more crime written places like where I
lived in and then nearby iconic Georgetown with the cobblestone
streets and just it was just one of the coolest
spots on earth. And then it just kind of every
other store was out of business or boarded up, and
it was just it's just terrible. And he left DC
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and around that time, and you must have come back
and thought, what is going on here?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
This is horrible, and.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
He said, I'm going to do something about it because
I can. And the more I thought about it, the
more I thought it was a great idea. And then
the more I thought it was a great idea, the
more the left would commit themselves to know, this is
a terrible idea.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
What We're going to clean up America's capital.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We're going to make it so that tourists can come
here and appreciate our monuments and our museums and the
it's actually a very beautiful city when it's.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
It's cleaned up with our architecture.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And people are fighting against that, you're just pro shoplifter
and pro murderer and pro vandal. What is this posture
that the left is just like, yeah, we just were
for vandalism now because Trump is against it. It's so
colossally stupid, and they can't stop themselves, Tutor. That's what's
so wild. They can't help themselves. One time, it's just
(31:57):
Lucy with the football. Every time Charlie Brown goes for
that big kick. That's the modern day Democrat Party.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yes, yes, Trump exposed them and they cannot figure out
and expose the media. I mean that was also another
genius thing. When he was saying fake news, fake news.
Everybody was like, oh, he's a little aggressive with this, but.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It was fake.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It was fake and he knew it. And you guys
have done such a great job of this. I want
to get to your book really quick. Tell us where
people can find it. It's called breaking the Law. Exposing
the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. Critical
because like you said, this is him, we know him.
He's big. He could fight it. He was blessed to
be able to fight it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
We can't.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Well, let me give you three reasons why I think
the book is a must read it and the reviews
are coming in really good.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
New York Times bestseller, and so thank you. I you
picked it up.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I always appreciate that those accolades make it easier to
pitch it to people, So thank you. But the first
one is you will enjoy reading it. I think it's
a fun read. Pride myself in my books, and I
think this is my best written one yet and it's
my shortest, So that's an incentive, but the two may
your points for this audience in terms of an activist audience.
First of all, this is a primer for investigation season.
(33:06):
We're already seeing two investigations, one into Jacksmith, one until
Letitia James. These things take time, and I go through
the six cases against Trump methodically, and I think clearly,
where you'll understand the cases, you'll be able to differentiate them.
I know I couldn't fully differentiate them when I took
on the book. That was part of why I was
incentivized to do it. I know some attorneys out there
maybe you can, but it's tough to do for normal people.
(33:27):
And I'm not an attorney, but I consulted with a
lot of them. So I think it's a nice way
to present the material in a way where you'll understand
where these investigations are going and you'll get to enjoy
them a little more when we get good news like
what we've got this this week. But the other one
is a warning and that if we don't get engaged
on a civic level, we've beaten back Hollywood. We're beating
(33:48):
the establishment media, but the left is moved on and
they're using the law fair superstructure to try to destroy MAGA,
and there are some clear reforms we need to make
and when if you're not in a position where you're
a li and are going to be engaging in the reforms,
we need to be holding our elected leaders to account
and we need to be highly involved off your elections,
(34:08):
down ticket races. We've got to be focused on this.
We've stayed a wartime footing because they're working. George Soros,
Mark Elias. Some of these people who are familiar to you,
and many your that are not familiar to you, are
working right now to try to destroy MAGA using the
lawfare superstructure. And I share with you who those are
and what we can do stop them.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, I cannot agree with you more. Get we get
lazy in the off here and there is no off here.
I always tell people now there's no off here. Stop
saying that that is not a thing exactly right.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
And this I've evolved in this a little bit. I
wanted peacetime after Trump won the first time.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I knew it wasn't going to be, but I wanted it,
and it just wasn't and never again will not even
cross my mind until we're winning forty plus dates.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I agree, I agree, well, I appreciate it's been a
great conversation.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Alex Marlow check him out, check out his podcast, but
also always go to Breitbart. That's a trust to place
to get your news. We're so happy you came on today.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Thank you, Peter, and I love to return the favor
of the Albus Marris Show, so just let me know
when you want to come by.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
That would be great, awesome, thank you, and thank you
all for joining the Tutor Dixon podcast. As always, head
over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts, and you can watch it on Rumble
or YouTube at Tutor Dixon and join us next time.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Have a blessed day.
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