August 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the Democratic Party’s branding crisis, voter registration trends, and cultural disconnect with young male voters. Clay and Buck analyze three key upcoming elections—Virginia, New Jersey, and the New York City mayoral race—highlighting Zoran Mamdani’s rise and the symbolic implications of his physical weakness, including his inability to bench press 135 pounds. This moment becomes a metaphor for the Democratic Party’s broader failure to resonate with average American men.
The hosts explore how masculinity, strength, and testosterone levels correlate with political affiliation, arguing that higher physical fitness and traditional masculine traits align more closely with Republican values. They cite voter registration gains for the GOP in swing states like Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, framing it as a cultural shift driven by disillusionment with progressive ideology.
Clay and Buck also dissect the Democratic Party’s embrace of victimhood narratives, lack of competitiveness, and suppression of masculine virtues like courage and bravery. They critique Gavin Newsom’s image strategy and contrast it with Vice President JD Vance’s perceived authenticity and strength. Listener call-ins reinforce the theme, with anecdotes about gym culture, strength benchmarks, and generational perspectives on masculinity.
The hour closes with commentary on the newly released Ghislaine Maxwell transcript, questioning her credibility and the origins of Jeffrey Epstein’s wealth. The hosts suggest strategic motives behind Maxwell’s statements and discuss the Trump administration’s push for transparency in the case.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,
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and that hopefully will be sometime after the first of
the year. But in the meantime, we are coming up
on the end of summer and the Democrat Party is
not doing itself any favors we have. What I would
(01:09):
say is I think you'd probably sign off on this, Buck.
As we get close to Labor Day being officially up, honest,
three major elections to kind of pay attention to. Uh,
We've got the governor of Virginia, We've got the governor
of New Jersey. Both of those are traditionally, I think
it's fair to say, now blue States, we'll see how
(01:33):
Republicans are able to battle there. And then we have
the New York City mayor's race, where Zorn Mamdami is,
Mam Donnie is the Democrat nominee. You still got Andrew
Cuomo in, you still got Eric Adams in, and you've
still got Curtis Leewa in. And basically every day Mom
(01:53):
Donnie continues to create more space between him and the
other candidates. At least if you use the prediction markets,
he's nearly a ninety percent chance now to be elected
the next mayor of New York City.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And we're going to.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Get into mom Donnie and his overall actual physical weakness.
But Harry Inton, who actually shares, I have to give
credit to CNN pretty interesting data on a regular basis,
kind of diving into what the numbers say. He wanted
(02:31):
to put into context how the Democrat party looked, and
he kind of made an analogy with the cracker barrel rebrand.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And this is what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The Democratic brand right now has about the appeal with
the American voter as the cracker barrel rebrand has with
the American consumers.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Bad, bad, bad.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
What are we talking.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
About here in terms of big party registration changes in
the key swing states? Look at this the Republican party
gains and party registration compared to this point back in
twenty seventeen during the Trump first administration. In Arizona, you
got a Republican gain of three points. Okay, how about
Nevada a gain of six points. How about again we
come to the east coast North Carolina, a gain of
eight points for the Republicans. And in the Keystone State,
(03:14):
in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, again we're talking about a
gain of eight points. My goodness, gracious for Republicans. They
are converting old former Democrats to their side of the
ledger as well as picking up new voters.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So all of the data we talked about this from
the New York Times showing that all of this is
moving in a very positive direction. And so much of
this has to do with failure to appeal to young men.
And we mentioned this in the first hour, and you
might say, Okay, I don't particularly care about this, This
(03:49):
doesn't have anything to do with policy. Why would you
even focus on it? Mom?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Donnie?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Over the weekend, decided to hop on a bench press
at a public event, and he was unable to do
I went back and looked at the pictures. It is
forty five pound plates on each side and a bar
traditionally one hundred and thirty five pounds. He couldn't do
it one time. And I understand some of you may
(04:19):
never have been in a gym, you may never have
laid down on a bench press, you may never have
done it at all. I do think this is emblematic
of why young men are just completely rejecting the Democrat Party.
I'll give you a story on this buck. Yesterday, my
fourteen year old, he's a ninth grader, came home and
(04:40):
he had been with a friend over the weekend and
he said, Dad, I just got one hundred and fifty
five one time on my bench press. And he was
so excited about it, and you know, I gave him
a high five, as dads do. He's playing football, he
wants to lift, he wants to get stronger. All of
(05:00):
his friends see saying someone is a Democrat as an insult.
These are kids from all different backgrounds, and I do
think that this inability to just connect with normal men
is emblematic of Zorn Mundami's inability to bingch Am I
making too much of this, or do you think it's
(05:21):
a symbol of Democrat weakness and also just an inability
to understand average male voters.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That is incredible weakness.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
No, it took some time for it really to sink
in what the Democrat ideology and the talking points the
orthodoxy was around things like toxic toxic masculinity. Remember I
had this discussion on the Bill mahershow right before the
(05:51):
election where I said Trump is going to win and
this is why, and this is one of the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Sure enough, that was all.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Correct, even though I would say the audience actually didn't
boo really and well, remember we went back and watched
this again. The audience is willing to hear it out
because I think that they realized some of them knew
at least the train that was coming down the tracks. Uh,
and the Trump train was already going too too. I
mean it was on the way at that point. It
was October's right before the election. But Clay that we
talked about, you know, toxic masculinity and and and masculinity
(06:19):
in general. First of all, I remember one of the
other panelists there. Maybe it is still maybe still has
a job at CNN.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't know. I've been quite honest with you. I
don't think so. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Maybe here's as a contributor there, and she said, why
are we talking about man? We should be talking about
women and minorities. Basically, it's like, well, the topic is masculinity,
so you know if that topic we talk.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
About completely expected right that she would immediately say, I
don't know why we're talking Yeah, why are you talking
about this?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, it's the topic.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
And and then and then when I try to get
into it, I said, if you look at masculine virtues,
you're not allowed to talk about masculine virtues as a Democrat.
And Democrats are not allowed to say you can't say
things like courage, bravery, because they'll say, what do you mean, well,
women have that too. It's like, okay, yeah, but we're
trying to, you know, we're trying to look at what
is true generally genetically about men and women in the aggregate.
(07:11):
And fundamentally, men and women are different. And this is
what the Democrat Party decided they were going to just
they were going to destroy this difference. They were going
to destroy it with the trans issue, but also more generally,
they were going to destroy it. Women should conduct themselves
like men, should pursue the same ends as men, should
have the same life aspirations as men. And you know,
(07:33):
this is where you can get into the it's fine
if a woman doesn't want to have a family, of course.
It's fine if a woman wants to choose a career first,
of course, and they should have that full right to do.
But as a society, generally speaking, some things tend to
be true about men and women, about the careers they choose,
about the hours they put in, about the and it's
(07:54):
okay to promote that. It's okay to say, hey, this
is actually a good thing for men to do, or
this is a good thing for women to do in general,
and Democrats ran ran against all of that, and you
find you find yourself thinking, you know, they also just
they got rid of a lot of the words that
you would use to describe wimpy men or wimpyns. You know,
I don't even really know how you're supposed to talk
(08:16):
about this anymore, but this is this is where they
found themselves as as a party, and they won't walk
back from this. They're starting to try. I said, Gavin
Newsom is putting out like he put out. Okay, here's
the perfect example. Gavin Newsom put out or his team
put out same thing. A photo, right, you saw this
clay of him in high school. Yeah, he's got like
(08:38):
a long scarfon, he's got like, you know, slick hair,
and he's like hey, and you know, and Jadie Vance
looking a little bit like a Dufus, but you know,
it is high school, and a lot of us look
like dufus is in high school. And the whole thing,
I guess is like, I'm like handsome, cool Gavin Newsom
unlike this guy who was like a dork in high school.
And it's like, well, he's a vice president of the
United States. You know, he's been incredibly successful. He actually
(09:01):
looks great.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I think you would kick Gavin Newsom's ass in a fight.
Not that that matters, but if we're talking about this stuff,
and every time they try to do this play it
rings hollow. Every time they try to go down the
masculinity pathway, it rings hollow because Democrats will tear down
what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yes, and Gavin Newsom is almost sixty. I was cool
in high school. Is not something that I think appeals
very much to people when they look at a sixty
year old. I think that men are not above criticism.
And this is why I look at the zoron mom,
dammy attempted bench press. And for those of you who
(09:38):
don't know, one hundred and thirty five pounds is a
goal that a fourteen or fifteen year old boy who
is trying to play football would aspire to, right. I
think for people out there who don't know, one plate
on each side, a forty five, which is the typical
top weight, is a goal that young young boys, I
(09:59):
would say, maybe some of you out there haven't been
able to do it yet. I'd say that's that's a
good goal. You want to be able to have at
least one plate. And then for you and me, I
bet it was when I'm you know, twenty years old
or nineteen or whatever I was, I want to get
two plates, right. I want to be able to do
to twenty five, which is a lot of way to
bench press. But if you ever go into a gym,
that is the goal. That's how most men and some women,
(10:22):
but most men would progress. They'd say, I want to
get one plate on each side and then eventually play
and I.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Can both bench press to twenty five. And so for
any of you who are doubters or haters out there,
that video will be could be forthcoming very quickly. We
could both bench to twenty five. Okay, so before before
all the snark comes flying our way.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But by the way, to be fair, don't know how
many reps on two twenty five I would get, but
I can definitely notice.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I said, we can bench it. You can bench it,
I can bench it. We can both do too twenty five.
As we're having this Mom Danni conversation.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So when I look at it, I just think to myselves,
the criticism of men to me that I would give
is that men are not masculine enough, and that the
failure of masculinity is that men are not strong enough,
both mentally and physically to take on the responsibilities that
(11:17):
we as men should.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And so when I.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
See someone who is physically weak, like Mom Donnie, it
doesn't make me think, oh, this is someone who believes
in strong men.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Is it symbolic? Yes?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Are there people who are incredibly weak that are very
strong mentally? Certainly that occurs. But when you are thirty
three years old, like mom, Donnie, and it looks to
me like you don't even know how to hold a bench,
hold the bar. You've never been on a bench before.
It is a sign I think of weakness mentally and physically.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
When it comes to the masculine idea.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It all ties in too with the ideology because victim ideology.
That's not fair. Let's not compete. Everybody gets a trophy.
You go down all of these thoughts, all these talking points.
These Democrats embrace this stuff, right, Yes, everybody gets a trophy.
Competitiveness is wrong. Oh I'm a victim. My choices don't matter.
(12:18):
I'm not accountable. Other people hold me down. I'd be stronger,
I'd be thinner, I'd be smarter, I'd be more successful
if somebody else, somebody else wasn't doing what they're You know,
this is very central to the modern Democrat party ethos.
And for people to say, well what about all the
lib billionaires. First of all, look Atjeff Bezos. Guy gets
(12:38):
rich enough and you know he's taken enough steroids to uh,
you know, probably give a horse a heart attack. So
you know they want to be strong too, in some cases.
And by the way, I think he's gotten a little
bit more right wing as he's gotten stronger. So I'm
actually all for it. And and you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Look at which actually goes to your point, which I
think is well taken, that if you just measure testosterone
left level as testosterone goods up, Republican voting becomes more likely.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I think it would be. I think it would be
the one of the strongest indicators. If you did blood
tests of every American man walking into a voting booth,
there would be some there would be some exceptions, there
would be I think particularly, I think the correlation would
break down among some minority voters where it wouldn't you know,
it would, But I think among among white men you
(13:25):
would have probably a pretty high you know, just because
of the UH. I think you'd have probably a pretty
high correlation with low T.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And voting Democrat. Yes, I think that is true.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think it is true, and it might be true
of the broader mail population as well. I just have
to think about, you know, voting allegiance, cultural influences. There's
other things too. But if you just walk around and
you had a good sense as to what the average
testosteron level of a room is I think you'll have
a pretty good a pretty good sense again it's not perfect,
but a pretty good sense about it. About the politics,
I tweeted that if you only a people who could
(14:01):
bench their body weight to vote Republicans, who would win
ninety five to five.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I don't think it would be close.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Like if you just said, hey, instead of being eighteen
new rule, you have to be able to bench your
body weight to be able to vote, I think it
would be a massive Republican landslide.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well, strength is something that and you know, generally physical fitness,
i'd say, but strength is something where you either ken
or you can't, and it forces you to at least
think in the real world better version of can can
someone kick your ass?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Or not?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
A lot of guys you sit down, and by the way,
you don't always know that's certainly the case, but guys
generally will think about this, like.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
If I had to take this guy, could I take
this guy? It's very right wing thought.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Left wing is not too race not to even engage,
I think in this kind of thinking, and to assume
that the world does not revolve at some level around
these power dynamics and power relationships, which it still does
even if the left and the collectivists don't want it to.
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With all Steak live calls, We've got some of those.
Bob up in Bangor, Maine wants to talk Mom, Donnie.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What's going on? Bob?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, guys, I heard you on the radio.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I'm a little disgusted with that guy down there. He
can't even bench for us one hundred and thirty five pounds.
My grandson, he's ten years old, can do that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Come on, I.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Think that honestly, they helped him in the video. I
think if he hadn't had a spotter that basically lifted
the whole thing, I think that wave could have dropped
on him and he you know, it might have it
might have crushed him like a little bird or something.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't think he could handle it.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
That's an you know, as a man, that's that's embarrassing.
But that again we have talking to Democrat or he
just I mean, this is crazy, man. I mean, I
just don't I don't understand it. I mean, why would
you if you couldn't do that, why would you do
even try or just think of it? You know?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean I think with a lot of men out there,
it evokes Dcaccus in the tank style remembrance. And again
I understand people say, well, I'm not that strong, and
but it does I think speak to the failure of
the Democrat party to connect with young men. And you
may think that it's ridiculous to have RFK Junior doing
(17:34):
push ups and Pete Hagseth and all these things, But
I do think that there is a masculine ideal has
been since the Greeks and the Romans to be both
strong of mind and body, and Democrats have given up
on that and they've lost men in the process.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, and I don't know how they get the best.
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We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A
couple of different things out there. We probably should mention this.
(19:03):
I don't know if you paid much attention to it, Buck.
I read some of the transcript. The Department of Justice
released an entire transcript of Jelaane Maxwell.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I read through it on Friday because I did Will show,
so I had to go through the transcript.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
YEP, So did you have any super takeaway? We haven't
talked about this. I mean my take was nothing that
she said was particularly surprising. Did anything stagger or surprise
you from her commentary?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I think she's lying. Yeah, I mean I think that
there are parts of it. Parts of it are true,
parts of it aren't. I think where she says nobody
knew anything was a miss with uh, that she didn't know.
I just to be clear, she didn't know anything was
going wrong with Epstein Uh. I mean some of the
girls that were going over to that house, if memory
serves were they were underraged. They were very underraged too.
(19:50):
So there's just no way that I think she was
unaware of everything she Clai. But you know, there's no
upside for her saying that she was aware of things.
She's trying to angle for a pardon from what I right,
become a commutation, But no, there was nothing that. The
part of it also that didn't add up for me
reading through that transcript was where she says he was
doing these like he was paid money to get money
(20:13):
for people that they couldn't otherwise.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Get, Like it's sort of a.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
He was almost like he was given bounties, huge amounts
of money because he would be able to negotiate. I'm like,
why would he be able to do that? What is
it about this guy? I don't buy I just don't
buy it. I don't buy that he made money through
the value he brought in the actual marketplace. I do
not believe that. So I don't think he's worth He
was worth eight hundred million dollars because he was so
(20:39):
smooth at handling markets.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
This is this is where we've talked about. Just the
way that he got so wealthy still remains mysterious to me,
because usually you have to found a company, or you
have to run a hugely prominent hedge fund or a
private equity fund in order to have those kind of
dollars associated with you, I will say, and I know
(21:01):
this was controversial when I said it before, but I
do think the craziness has died down. I don't think
there is anybody out there that is being protected based
on the evidence that is available. Then you think Trump
is choosing to protect or his DOJ is choosing to protect.
I mean, even Julaanne Maxwell at this point in time,
(21:24):
would probably be benefited by saying, oh, Bill Clinton was
doing all sorts of illegal things and I know about them.
She said that she didn't have any knowledge of him
doing illegal things, as she also said she had no
knowledge of Trump behaving in any way inappropriately. Now, to
your point, Buck, that is oftully convenient because she's hoping
(21:45):
to somehow get beneficial treatment from Trump. So I think
the value of her commentary is questionable. There is an
incentive for her to lie. But again, I just come
back to and I wanted to make sure we updated
this because it happened Friday after we went off the air.
I just come back to the Merrick Garland and PAMBONDI
(22:07):
agree on almost nothing. The odds that they would in
some way be conspiring to protect people related to Epstein.
I think is highly highly unlikely. So I think the
evidence as more of it comes out, and they've tried
to get the full grand jury transcripts released, it hasn't
happened yet, but I think as more and more of
(22:28):
this comes out, you're going to see that what Cash
Patel and Dan Bongino have said publicly is in fact true.
So anyway that has come out, and I actually think
the Trump team is doing their best to try to
get as much of that out as they possibly can.
I don't know if you saw this, buck I got ripped.
(22:48):
I went on Fox News and on Sunday on Media
Buzz with Howard Kurtz, and there was a discussion about
the Smithsonian and Trump's commentary about the different exhibits.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Didn't talk about the Smithsonian on there could just I
meant to get that last week. You want to just
set the table that for a second, because I think
that's there's the commentariat has been way more on this
than the general I think newsreading population.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, even if we want to go to this in
the third hour, because I do think I've got my
take was getting attacked by the left. But I do
think this goes to Trump's desire to try to uplift
American history as opposed to define us all by the
worst of our history. And let's talk about that some
(23:35):
in the third hour, because I think we got some
good discussion. This is funny the amount of grammar police
that we have. Producer Greg, are you there? Have you
done a transcript or review?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well? I don't know where he might be in progress?
You have have you done?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Here is the email Gary in cape Cod says around
twelve twenty nine today, one of you use the word
resound when I think you meant redowned. You were discussing
the ramifications of actions taken by an individual in the
flow of political dynamics.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Love you both.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I think that was me it And what did I say?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What did I say? We can play it. We can
play it for you if you'd like to hear it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Let's play it and see if I if I screwed
up or if I if this works? Was was Gary
and cape Cod wright?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Or was I right? Let's play it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Gram The fact that we are in a position where
Democrats are essentially having to argue lower violent crime is
a bad thing, which is what Trump's goal is in
Chicago or Baltimore or Washington, d C. He's just gotten
them buck to paint themselves into a corner in such
an untenable position.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
They can't argue.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Anything that resounds in the favor for them in the
general public. There is almost no trump outposition because they're
arguing for indefensible positions.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think I think I'm okay here. I think you
could use either.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I was, honestly, I was excited to stand there idly
by while the Grammar Police pepper sprayed you. Honestly, I was.
I was excited for this Monday for that to happen.
But I think I've got to call a foul on that.
I think I think you actually your usage of it
in that context was correct. But now, by the way,
if the Grammar Police doubles down and brings the Grammar
squat team, we're both getting sprayed.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Now you have signed on to my use of resound
as opposed to redowned, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Say it was perfect, like I wouldn't have been my
word choice. But I don't think it's incorrect.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I think you could actually, I think you could actually
use either there. But again, Grammar Police, everybody can can
come swarming us, and we got a little old lady on.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
The Grammar Police. She's about to roll some flash bangs
into the studio right now. It's gonna be crazy, but
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We got some funny talkbacks. Let's hit some of these.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Tom and Tennessee Talk Radio ninety eight point three BB.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Hey, guys, love the show. This is Tom and Tennessee,
not too far south from Clay. The only way Mandami
is getting up that bench press is with socialism. He
can have all his friends get on each side and
maybe together they can lift it. Love you guys, great show.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
He's a good point. It was it was actually a
collective lift. It was a collective effort there. It was him,
it was the spotter, other people around him, and that's
that's what it takes. So do you want to be
a guy that needs other people to lift the bar
with you, or do you want to say I did
lift that bar?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You want a confession? This is probably this is before
I saw the mom Donni, So maybe this was me.
I actually pinned myself at the gym on Saturday Saturday morning.
I was I have a usual lift, I don't have
a spotting partner, and I was on one eighty five
and I was going for my sixth, which is what
(27:00):
I tried to do, and I clipped the edge of
the bench like the support and I didn't get the
thing all the way up it then I could. I
didn't have anything left. It was my final rep of
the set. I pinned myself like I was laying there on.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Have you ever done this?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Have you ever gotten actually pinned by weights ever before?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
On the bench? Never in your life? Really? Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I may have been distracted once a long time ago
in the CIA gym on a treadmill and completely wiped
out in front of everybody, like ejected, like a hamster
that fell asleep on the wheel off. I mean, people
have actually gotten seriously injured getting Oh you can mess
yourself up. Yeah, oh yeah, I no, but I got
I got expelled from the back of the treadmill during
(27:49):
a sprint session and just got sent That happened.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
How did you? How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
There was a secretary in the office who sometimes would
would dress I think inappropriately.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh, office, you got distracted by a cute girl and
almost killed yourself pretty much in the gym.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yep, Yeah, that it was the Lord. It was the Lord.
By the way, this is twenty years ago. Okay, I
was a single man. Uh but it was a lord
telling me no oakly, okay, eyes, eyes are eyes in
front of you, sir, look at look at the CNBC
on the screen like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So did did everyone just notice when you went flying
off the treadmill?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah? No, no one.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I don't think anyone realized anything other than I got
I got ejected.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, I got ejected off the treadmill. So that happened
to me once.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
So when I've seen it happen other people, I both
laugh but also feel sympathy for them.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, I had a quo I had so I don't
put clamps on the bar for this exact reason, because
because then you can really really you gotta do the
You gotta do the wobble.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You gotta do the wobble. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But then I was like, nobody noticed. I'm just telling
on myself. Nobody noticed that I had pinned myself. So
I laid there for a minute. I thought, I can
wait and get the strength potential to you know, get
the additional rep done. I can do the wobble, and
all the weights are then gonna hit Boom boom boom, boom,
or I can roll it down off off my body.
(29:12):
So I di elected to roll it down to my
hips to where I could stand up. But I was
thinking about this, and I made fun of mom Donnie.
I was like, of all the times, haven't I don't
know that I've ever gotten myself pinned like that before,
So it did feel like a certain level of irony.
So full disclosure, I did get myself pinned, but I
(29:32):
did use resound and redown correctly, So we got a
balancing error here. Let's get a couple more of these
really quick. Matt from Milwaukee News Talk eleven thirty, which
got Forrest Matt cec Hey clambuck.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
I'm sixty two years old. My warm up weight on
the bench is one thirty five. I think an average
mail of average strength should be able to lift one
thirty five at least ten to fifteen times as a
bear animal. Thanks, guys, you're doing a great job.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I will say thank you for Connor. I will say
it's funny. This is like the Clay and buck brodcast today.
You know a lot of weight. I warm up with
one thirty five too. I don't know what you warm
up with.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yah know?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I actually, Clay, I've I've switched now that I've I've
hurt my you know, I've I've like impinged my shoulder
enough times that I do machines now I'm a machine guy.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I've gone to that.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh I know, I know, I wish people could see
my face.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
That that's what probably why I don't get pinned on
the bench, because I use the I use the you know,
the Cybex machines or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It's all about side.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Like, I think I probably could have benched more a
year ago than I can now because I've dropped a
lot of weight and with that you lose some lean muscle.
So if you weigh two hundred pounds, it's really about
what can you bench relative to your weight? Right, And
a lot of women who are very very strong. You know,
if you're one hundred and thirty pound woman and you
can bench press one hundred and fifty one hundred and
sixty pounds, I mean that's like very impressive. You know,
it's considerably more than your body.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Weight, which is what Darcy from Houston says on DD
to close out with here.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Hey guys, this is Darcy. I'm from Houston, Texas. I
listen on kt R H, and I wanted to let
you know, let's really put this in perspective. I am
a fifty six year old female and I can bench
press one forty five times and I'm not stacked. I'm
not a like bodybuilder or anything like that, but I
(31:28):
am in really good shape. So for someone his age.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Lame, it's embarrassing, totally probably can throw up some weight
because he's got both rage and old man's strength.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I bet Cuomo could throw those weights around a little bit.
You combine those two things, you know he's he's got
he's an Andrew Andrew Cuomo. Andrew, Oh no, No, Chris
Cuomo is Jack. Chris Cuomo is a monster. Yeah, he's
actually just straight Jack. Now, I mean the guy who
wants to be mayor instead of mom Donnie, his brother,
old man Cuomo. I think he's I think he's got
enough rage that he could probably do do decently on
(32:03):
the bench. And I'm sure Curtis Sleieva could throw around
some weight too, So Mom Donnie is definitely at the
at the low end of the strength pool. Oh and
also Mayor Eric Adams certainly, I mean he's sure he's
in decent shape.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's in good shape. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
His suits I think are cut so that you can
see that he is a man of considerable upper body strength.
In fact, I would wager so much. All Right, we're
going to get back to like politics and stuff here
in a second.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's coming up.
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Speaker 5 (34:00):
Hort I will say, meeting with the President of South
Korea today and uh he will give you some updates
on that as as we come up here in a
little bit. Some interesting happenings from that meeting with Trump.
Trump has been going for quite a while, and that
that's something we'll dive into also. We I want to
get to it last WEEKLYA. So it's I'm glad you
(34:21):
brought it up. I'm glad that people were all sassy
with you online about it too. The Smithsonian. It's really
more about these national museums or these you know federally uh,
you know, federally funded or the big the big museums
everyone thinks of, especially in DC, like the Smithsonian. They're
(34:43):
the wokeness that is in a lot of these exhibits,
and that now is is pervasive. Trump is pushing back
on it, and we should talk about that. We will
get into that here in a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Clay pushed back on it. And guess what they were
upset with him, The communists. They they came at him
with their nose rings and their dyed purple hair, and
they're they're very upset, very upset.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We'll get to it.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Brent in Saint Petersburg, Florida. He wants to commiserate with
Clay over getting pinned.
Speaker 11 (35:13):
Hey, guys, Hey, Clay and Buck Club. Clay don't feel bad.
You know what, I've been bodybuilding for fifteen years. I'm
fifty four. I had two twenty five on the bench.
I was feeling good. I was in my third set,
I think I was. I wanted to crank out four more.
I was buying myself. There's people in the room, you know.
But I dropped that last one down and I couldn't
(35:33):
get it up. I was stuck.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I didn't so what did you do?
Speaker 11 (35:36):
Clips on the side. I had the clips on the side.
I started putting my head back, betting back, looking for somebody.
I'm like, yeah, just got the strength to pull this
thing up, and I just I had to give up, man.
I had to pull some members. I pushed on my chest.
I could not get it up. Had a guide come
over and help me lift up and put it back
on the thing. First time that's ever happened to me
in fifteen years. But Clay, don't feel bad. It happens.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
That's where you gotta get up. Afterwards, you shake it off.
You're like, oh, there's one in a million, this's never
happened before.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know, you gotta Honestly, I've been afraid. I'm glad
he called in, because when you don't have a spotter.
That's why I've never put the clamps on the edge,
because the worst case scenario, you can just have him
roll off. But there I didn't want to terrify everybody,
and so I just slowly rolled it down my body
till it got to my hips. And I gotta tell you,
I got a lot of bruises today from that slow
(36:25):
roll of It was only one eighty five, wasn't two
twenty five. Some of these numbers get up so big
that the numbers can hit you. All right, buck, I
got ripped. People are gonna enjoy this. I got ripped
for my analogy on the Smithsonian on Fox News.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Did I back away? Of course not. But we'll dive
into this.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
What should the Smithsonian do about good and bad moments
in history?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
We'll discuss new
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and that hopefully will be sometime after the first of
the year. But in the meantime, we are coming up
on the end of summer and the Democrat Party is
not doing itself any favors we have. What I would
(01:09):
say is I think you'd probably sign off on this, Buck.
As we get close to Labor Day being officially up, honest,
three major elections to kind of pay attention to. Uh,
We've got the governor of Virginia, We've got the governor
of New Jersey. Both of those are traditionally, I think
it's fair to say, now blue States, we'll see how
(01:33):
Republicans are able to battle there. And then we have
the New York City mayor's race, where Zorn Mamdami is,
Mam Donnie is the Democrat nominee. You still got Andrew
Cuomo in, you still got Eric Adams in, and you've
still got Curtis Leewa in. And basically every day Mom
(01:53):
Donnie continues to create more space between him and the
other candidates. At least if you use the prediction markets,
he's nearly a ninety percent chance now to be elected
the next mayor of New York City.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And we're going to.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Get into mom Donnie and his overall actual physical weakness.
But Harry Inton, who actually shares, I have to give
credit to CNN pretty interesting data on a regular basis,
kind of diving into what the numbers say. He wanted
(02:31):
to put into context how the Democrat party looked, and
he kind of made an analogy with the cracker barrel rebrand.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And this is what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The Democratic brand right now has about the appeal with
the American voter as the cracker barrel rebrand has with
the American consumers.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Bad, bad, bad.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
What are we talking.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
About here in terms of big party registration changes in
the key swing states? Look at this the Republican party
gains and party registration compared to this point back in
twenty seventeen during the Trump first administration. In Arizona, you
got a Republican gain of three points. Okay, how about
Nevada a gain of six points. How about again we
come to the east coast North Carolina, a gain of
eight points for the Republicans. And in the Keystone State,
(03:14):
in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, again we're talking about a
gain of eight points. My goodness, gracious for Republicans. They
are converting old former Democrats to their side of the
ledger as well as picking up new voters.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So all of the data we talked about this from
the New York Times showing that all of this is
moving in a very positive direction. And so much of
this has to do with failure to appeal to young men.
And we mentioned this in the first hour, and you
might say, Okay, I don't particularly care about this, This
(03:49):
doesn't have anything to do with policy. Why would you
even focus on it? Mom?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Donnie?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Over the weekend, decided to hop on a bench press
at a public event, and he was unable to do
I went back and looked at the pictures. It is
forty five pound plates on each side and a bar
traditionally one hundred and thirty five pounds. He couldn't do
it one time. And I understand some of you may
(04:19):
never have been in a gym, you may never have
laid down on a bench press, you may never have
done it at all. I do think this is emblematic
of why young men are just completely rejecting the Democrat Party.
I'll give you a story on this buck. Yesterday, my
fourteen year old, he's a ninth grader, came home and
(04:40):
he had been with a friend over the weekend and
he said, Dad, I just got one hundred and fifty
five one time on my bench press. And he was
so excited about it, and you know, I gave him
a high five, as dads do. He's playing football, he
wants to lift, he wants to get stronger. All of
(05:00):
his friends see saying someone is a Democrat as an insult.
These are kids from all different backgrounds, and I do
think that this inability to just connect with normal men
is emblematic of Zorn Mundami's inability to bingch Am I
making too much of this, or do you think it's
(05:21):
a symbol of Democrat weakness and also just an inability
to understand average male voters.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That is incredible weakness.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
No, it took some time for it really to sink
in what the Democrat ideology and the talking points the
orthodoxy was around things like toxic toxic masculinity. Remember I
had this discussion on the Bill mahershow right before the
(05:51):
election where I said Trump is going to win and
this is why, and this is one of the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Sure enough, that was all.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Correct, even though I would say the audience actually didn't
boo really and well, remember we went back and watched
this again. The audience is willing to hear it out
because I think that they realized some of them knew
at least the train that was coming down the tracks. Uh,
and the Trump train was already going too too. I
mean it was on the way at that point. It
was October's right before the election. But Clay that we
talked about, you know, toxic masculinity and and and masculinity
(06:19):
in general. First of all, I remember one of the
other panelists there. Maybe it is still maybe still has
a job at CNN.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't know. I've been quite honest with you. I
don't think so. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Maybe here's as a contributor there, and she said, why
are we talking about man? We should be talking about
women and minorities. Basically, it's like, well, the topic is masculinity,
so you know if that topic we talk.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
About completely expected right that she would immediately say, I
don't know why we're talking Yeah, why are you talking
about this?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, it's the topic.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
And and then and then when I try to get
into it, I said, if you look at masculine virtues,
you're not allowed to talk about masculine virtues as a Democrat.
And Democrats are not allowed to say you can't say
things like courage, bravery, because they'll say, what do you mean, well,
women have that too. It's like, okay, yeah, but we're
trying to, you know, we're trying to look at what
is true generally genetically about men and women in the aggregate.
(07:11):
And fundamentally, men and women are different. And this is
what the Democrat Party decided they were going to just
they were going to destroy this difference. They were going
to destroy it with the trans issue, but also more generally,
they were going to destroy it. Women should conduct themselves
like men, should pursue the same ends as men, should
have the same life aspirations as men. And you know,
(07:33):
this is where you can get into the it's fine
if a woman doesn't want to have a family, of course.
It's fine if a woman wants to choose a career first,
of course, and they should have that full right to do.
But as a society, generally speaking, some things tend to
be true about men and women, about the careers they choose,
about the hours they put in, about the and it's
(07:54):
okay to promote that. It's okay to say, hey, this
is actually a good thing for men to do, or
this is a good thing for women to do in general,
and Democrats ran ran against all of that, and you
find you find yourself thinking, you know, they also just
they got rid of a lot of the words that
you would use to describe wimpy men or wimpyns. You know,
I don't even really know how you're supposed to talk
(08:16):
about this anymore, but this is this is where they
found themselves as as a party, and they won't walk
back from this. They're starting to try. I said, Gavin
Newsom is putting out like he put out. Okay, here's
the perfect example. Gavin Newsom put out or his team
put out same thing. A photo, right, you saw this
clay of him in high school. Yeah, he's got like
(08:38):
a long scarfon, he's got like, you know, slick hair,
and he's like hey, and you know, and Jadie Vance
looking a little bit like a Dufus, but you know,
it is high school, and a lot of us look
like dufus is in high school. And the whole thing,
I guess is like, I'm like handsome, cool Gavin Newsom
unlike this guy who was like a dork in high school.
And it's like, well, he's a vice president of the
United States. You know, he's been incredibly successful. He actually
(09:01):
looks great.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I think you would kick Gavin Newsom's ass in a fight.
Not that that matters, but if we're talking about this stuff,
and every time they try to do this play it
rings hollow. Every time they try to go down the
masculinity pathway, it rings hollow because Democrats will tear down
what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yes, and Gavin Newsom is almost sixty. I was cool
in high school. Is not something that I think appeals
very much to people when they look at a sixty
year old. I think that men are not above criticism.
And this is why I look at the zoron mom,
dammy attempted bench press. And for those of you who
(09:38):
don't know, one hundred and thirty five pounds is a
goal that a fourteen or fifteen year old boy who
is trying to play football would aspire to, right. I
think for people out there who don't know, one plate
on each side, a forty five, which is the typical
top weight, is a goal that young young boys, I
(09:59):
would say, maybe some of you out there haven't been
able to do it yet. I'd say that's that's a
good goal. You want to be able to have at
least one plate. And then for you and me, I
bet it was when I'm you know, twenty years old
or nineteen or whatever I was, I want to get
two plates, right. I want to be able to do
to twenty five, which is a lot of way to
bench press. But if you ever go into a gym,
that is the goal. That's how most men and some women,
(10:22):
but most men would progress. They'd say, I want to
get one plate on each side and then eventually play
and I.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Can both bench press to twenty five. And so for
any of you who are doubters or haters out there,
that video will be could be forthcoming very quickly. We
could both bench to twenty five. Okay, so before before
all the snark comes flying our way.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But by the way, to be fair, don't know how
many reps on two twenty five I would get, but
I can definitely notice.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I said, we can bench it. You can bench it,
I can bench it. We can both do too twenty five.
As we're having this Mom Danni conversation.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So when I look at it, I just think to myselves,
the criticism of men to me that I would give
is that men are not masculine enough, and that the
failure of masculinity is that men are not strong enough,
both mentally and physically to take on the responsibilities that
(11:17):
we as men should.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And so when I.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
See someone who is physically weak, like Mom Donnie, it
doesn't make me think, oh, this is someone who believes
in strong men.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Is it symbolic? Yes?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Are there people who are incredibly weak that are very
strong mentally? Certainly that occurs. But when you are thirty
three years old, like mom, Donnie, and it looks to
me like you don't even know how to hold a bench,
hold the bar. You've never been on a bench before.
It is a sign I think of weakness mentally and physically.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
When it comes to the masculine idea.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It all ties in too with the ideology because victim ideology.
That's not fair. Let's not compete. Everybody gets a trophy.
You go down all of these thoughts, all these talking points.
These Democrats embrace this stuff, right, Yes, everybody gets a trophy.
Competitiveness is wrong. Oh I'm a victim. My choices don't matter.
(12:18):
I'm not accountable. Other people hold me down. I'd be stronger,
I'd be thinner, I'd be smarter, I'd be more successful
if somebody else, somebody else wasn't doing what they're You know,
this is very central to the modern Democrat party ethos.
And for people to say, well what about all the
lib billionaires. First of all, look Atjeff Bezos. Guy gets
(12:38):
rich enough and you know he's taken enough steroids to uh,
you know, probably give a horse a heart attack. So
you know they want to be strong too, in some cases.
And by the way, I think he's gotten a little
bit more right wing as he's gotten stronger. So I'm
actually all for it. And and you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Look at which actually goes to your point, which I
think is well taken, that if you just measure testosterone
left level as testosterone goods up, Republican voting becomes more likely.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I think it would be. I think it would be
the one of the strongest indicators. If you did blood
tests of every American man walking into a voting booth,
there would be some there would be some exceptions, there
would be I think particularly, I think the correlation would
break down among some minority voters where it wouldn't you know,
it would, But I think among among white men you
(13:25):
would have probably a pretty high you know, just because
of the UH. I think you'd have probably a pretty
high correlation with low T.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And voting Democrat. Yes, I think that is true.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think it is true, and it might be true
of the broader mail population as well. I just have
to think about, you know, voting allegiance, cultural influences. There's
other things too. But if you just walk around and
you had a good sense as to what the average
testosteron level of a room is I think you'll have
a pretty good a pretty good sense again it's not perfect,
but a pretty good sense about it. About the politics,
I tweeted that if you only a people who could
(14:01):
bench their body weight to vote Republicans, who would win
ninety five to five.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I don't think it would be close.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Like if you just said, hey, instead of being eighteen
new rule, you have to be able to bench your
body weight to be able to vote, I think it
would be a massive Republican landslide.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well, strength is something that and you know, generally physical fitness,
i'd say, but strength is something where you either ken
or you can't, and it forces you to at least
think in the real world better version of can can
someone kick your ass?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Or not?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
A lot of guys you sit down, and by the way,
you don't always know that's certainly the case, but guys
generally will think about this, like.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
If I had to take this guy, could I take
this guy? It's very right wing thought.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Left wing is not too race not to even engage,
I think in this kind of thinking, and to assume
that the world does not revolve at some level around
these power dynamics and power relationships, which it still does
even if the left and the collectivists don't want it to.
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With all Steak live calls, We've got some of those.
Bob up in Bangor, Maine wants to talk Mom, Donnie.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What's going on? Bob?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, guys, I heard you on the radio.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I'm a little disgusted with that guy down there. He
can't even bench for us one hundred and thirty five pounds.
My grandson, he's ten years old, can do that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Come on, I.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Think that honestly, they helped him in the video. I
think if he hadn't had a spotter that basically lifted
the whole thing, I think that wave could have dropped
on him and he you know, it might have it
might have crushed him like a little bird or something.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't think he could handle it.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
That's an you know, as a man, that's that's embarrassing.
But that again we have talking to Democrat or he
just I mean, this is crazy, man. I mean, I
just don't I don't understand it. I mean, why would
you if you couldn't do that, why would you do
even try or just think of it? You know?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean I think with a lot of men out there,
it evokes Dcaccus in the tank style remembrance. And again
I understand people say, well, I'm not that strong, and
but it does I think speak to the failure of
the Democrat party to connect with young men. And you
may think that it's ridiculous to have RFK Junior doing
(17:34):
push ups and Pete Hagseth and all these things, But
I do think that there is a masculine ideal has
been since the Greeks and the Romans to be both
strong of mind and body, and Democrats have given up
on that and they've lost men in the process.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, and I don't know how they get the best.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A
couple of different things out there. We probably should mention this.
(19:03):
I don't know if you paid much attention to it, Buck.
I read some of the transcript. The Department of Justice
released an entire transcript of Jelaane Maxwell.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I read through it on Friday because I did Will show,
so I had to go through the transcript.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
YEP, So did you have any super takeaway? We haven't
talked about this. I mean my take was nothing that
she said was particularly surprising. Did anything stagger or surprise
you from her commentary?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I think she's lying. Yeah, I mean I think that
there are parts of it. Parts of it are true,
parts of it aren't. I think where she says nobody
knew anything was a miss with uh, that she didn't know.
I just to be clear, she didn't know anything was
going wrong with Epstein Uh. I mean some of the
girls that were going over to that house, if memory
serves were they were underraged. They were very underraged too.
(19:50):
So there's just no way that I think she was
unaware of everything she Clai. But you know, there's no
upside for her saying that she was aware of things.
She's trying to angle for a pardon from what I right,
become a commutation, But no, there was nothing that. The
part of it also that didn't add up for me
reading through that transcript was where she says he was
doing these like he was paid money to get money
(20:13):
for people that they couldn't otherwise.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Get, Like it's sort of a.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
He was almost like he was given bounties, huge amounts
of money because he would be able to negotiate. I'm like,
why would he be able to do that? What is
it about this guy? I don't buy I just don't
buy it. I don't buy that he made money through
the value he brought in the actual marketplace. I do
not believe that. So I don't think he's worth He
was worth eight hundred million dollars because he was so
(20:39):
smooth at handling markets.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
This is this is where we've talked about. Just the
way that he got so wealthy still remains mysterious to me,
because usually you have to found a company, or you
have to run a hugely prominent hedge fund or a
private equity fund in order to have those kind of
dollars associated with you, I will say, and I know
(21:01):
this was controversial when I said it before, but I
do think the craziness has died down. I don't think
there is anybody out there that is being protected based
on the evidence that is available. Then you think Trump
is choosing to protect or his DOJ is choosing to protect.
I mean, even Julaanne Maxwell at this point in time,
(21:24):
would probably be benefited by saying, oh, Bill Clinton was
doing all sorts of illegal things and I know about them.
She said that she didn't have any knowledge of him
doing illegal things, as she also said she had no
knowledge of Trump behaving in any way inappropriately. Now, to
your point, Buck, that is oftully convenient because she's hoping
(21:45):
to somehow get beneficial treatment from Trump. So I think
the value of her commentary is questionable. There is an
incentive for her to lie. But again, I just come
back to and I wanted to make sure we updated
this because it happened Friday after we went off the air.
I just come back to the Merrick Garland and PAMBONDI
(22:07):
agree on almost nothing. The odds that they would in
some way be conspiring to protect people related to Epstein.
I think is highly highly unlikely. So I think the
evidence as more of it comes out, and they've tried
to get the full grand jury transcripts released, it hasn't
happened yet, but I think as more and more of
(22:28):
this comes out, you're going to see that what Cash
Patel and Dan Bongino have said publicly is in fact true.
So anyway that has come out, and I actually think
the Trump team is doing their best to try to
get as much of that out as they possibly can.
I don't know if you saw this, buck I got ripped.
(22:48):
I went on Fox News and on Sunday on Media
Buzz with Howard Kurtz, and there was a discussion about
the Smithsonian and Trump's commentary about the different exhibits.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Didn't talk about the Smithsonian on there could just I
meant to get that last week. You want to just
set the table that for a second, because I think
that's there's the commentariat has been way more on this
than the general I think newsreading population.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, even if we want to go to this in
the third hour, because I do think I've got my
take was getting attacked by the left. But I do
think this goes to Trump's desire to try to uplift
American history as opposed to define us all by the
worst of our history. And let's talk about that some
(23:35):
in the third hour, because I think we got some
good discussion. This is funny the amount of grammar police
that we have. Producer Greg, are you there? Have you
done a transcript or review?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well? I don't know where he might be in progress?
You have have you done?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Here is the email Gary in cape Cod says around
twelve twenty nine today, one of you use the word
resound when I think you meant redowned. You were discussing
the ramifications of actions taken by an individual in the
flow of political dynamics.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Love you both.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I think that was me it And what did I say?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What did I say? We can play it. We can
play it for you if you'd like to hear it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Let's play it and see if I if I screwed
up or if I if this works? Was was Gary
and cape Cod wright?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Or was I right? Let's play it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Gram The fact that we are in a position where
Democrats are essentially having to argue lower violent crime is
a bad thing, which is what Trump's goal is in
Chicago or Baltimore or Washington, d C. He's just gotten
them buck to paint themselves into a corner in such
an untenable position.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
They can't argue.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Anything that resounds in the favor for them in the
general public. There is almost no trump outposition because they're
arguing for indefensible positions.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think I think I'm okay here. I think you
could use either.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I was, honestly, I was excited to stand there idly
by while the Grammar Police pepper sprayed you. Honestly, I was.
I was excited for this Monday for that to happen.
But I think I've got to call a foul on that.
I think I think you actually your usage of it
in that context was correct. But now, by the way,
if the Grammar Police doubles down and brings the Grammar
squat team, we're both getting sprayed.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Now you have signed on to my use of resound
as opposed to redowned, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Say it was perfect, like I wouldn't have been my
word choice. But I don't think it's incorrect.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I think you could actually, I think you could actually
use either there. But again, Grammar Police, everybody can can
come swarming us, and we got a little old lady on.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
The Grammar Police. She's about to roll some flash bangs
into the studio right now. It's gonna be crazy, but
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We got some funny talkbacks. Let's hit some of these.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Tom and Tennessee Talk Radio ninety eight point three BB.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Hey, guys, love the show. This is Tom and Tennessee,
not too far south from Clay. The only way Mandami
is getting up that bench press is with socialism. He
can have all his friends get on each side and
maybe together they can lift it. Love you guys, great show.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
He's a good point. It was it was actually a
collective lift. It was a collective effort there. It was him,
it was the spotter, other people around him, and that's
that's what it takes. So do you want to be
a guy that needs other people to lift the bar
with you, or do you want to say I did
lift that bar?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You want a confession? This is probably this is before
I saw the mom Donni, So maybe this was me.
I actually pinned myself at the gym on Saturday Saturday morning.
I was I have a usual lift, I don't have
a spotting partner, and I was on one eighty five
and I was going for my sixth, which is what
(27:00):
I tried to do, and I clipped the edge of
the bench like the support and I didn't get the
thing all the way up it then I could. I
didn't have anything left. It was my final rep of
the set. I pinned myself like I was laying there on.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Have you ever done this?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Have you ever gotten actually pinned by weights ever before?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
On the bench? Never in your life? Really? Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I may have been distracted once a long time ago
in the CIA gym on a treadmill and completely wiped
out in front of everybody, like ejected, like a hamster
that fell asleep on the wheel off. I mean, people
have actually gotten seriously injured getting Oh you can mess
yourself up. Yeah, oh yeah, I no, but I got
I got expelled from the back of the treadmill during
(27:49):
a sprint session and just got sent That happened.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
How did you? How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
There was a secretary in the office who sometimes would
would dress I think inappropriately.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh, office, you got distracted by a cute girl and
almost killed yourself pretty much in the gym.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yep, Yeah, that it was the Lord. It was the Lord.
By the way, this is twenty years ago. Okay, I
was a single man. Uh but it was a lord
telling me no oakly, okay, eyes, eyes are eyes in
front of you, sir, look at look at the CNBC
on the screen like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So did did everyone just notice when you went flying
off the treadmill?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah? No, no one.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I don't think anyone realized anything other than I got
I got ejected.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, I got ejected off the treadmill. So that happened
to me once.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
So when I've seen it happen other people, I both
laugh but also feel sympathy for them.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, I had a quo I had so I don't
put clamps on the bar for this exact reason, because
because then you can really really you gotta do the
You gotta do the wobble.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You gotta do the wobble. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But then I was like, nobody noticed. I'm just telling
on myself. Nobody noticed that I had pinned myself. So
I laid there for a minute. I thought, I can
wait and get the strength potential to you know, get
the additional rep done. I can do the wobble, and
all the weights are then gonna hit Boom boom boom, boom,
or I can roll it down off off my body.
(29:12):
So I di elected to roll it down to my
hips to where I could stand up. But I was
thinking about this, and I made fun of mom Donnie.
I was like, of all the times, haven't I don't
know that I've ever gotten myself pinned like that before,
So it did feel like a certain level of irony.
So full disclosure, I did get myself pinned, but I
(29:32):
did use resound and redown correctly, So we got a
balancing error here. Let's get a couple more of these
really quick. Matt from Milwaukee News Talk eleven thirty, which
got Forrest Matt cec Hey clambuck.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
I'm sixty two years old. My warm up weight on
the bench is one thirty five. I think an average
mail of average strength should be able to lift one
thirty five at least ten to fifteen times as a
bear animal. Thanks, guys, you're doing a great job.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I will say thank you for Connor. I will say
it's funny. This is like the Clay and buck brodcast today.
You know a lot of weight. I warm up with
one thirty five too. I don't know what you warm
up with.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yah know?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I actually, Clay, I've I've switched now that I've I've
hurt my you know, I've I've like impinged my shoulder
enough times that I do machines now I'm a machine guy.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I've gone to that.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh I know, I know, I wish people could see
my face.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
That that's what probably why I don't get pinned on
the bench, because I use the I use the you know,
the Cybex machines or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It's all about side.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Like, I think I probably could have benched more a
year ago than I can now because I've dropped a
lot of weight and with that you lose some lean muscle.
So if you weigh two hundred pounds, it's really about
what can you bench relative to your weight? Right, And
a lot of women who are very very strong. You know,
if you're one hundred and thirty pound woman and you
can bench press one hundred and fifty one hundred and
sixty pounds, I mean that's like very impressive. You know,
it's considerably more than your body.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Weight, which is what Darcy from Houston says on DD
to close out with here.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Hey guys, this is Darcy. I'm from Houston, Texas. I
listen on kt R H, and I wanted to let
you know, let's really put this in perspective. I am
a fifty six year old female and I can bench
press one forty five times and I'm not stacked. I'm
not a like bodybuilder or anything like that, but I
(31:28):
am in really good shape. So for someone his age.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Lame, it's embarrassing, totally probably can throw up some weight
because he's got both rage and old man's strength.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I bet Cuomo could throw those weights around a little bit.
You combine those two things, you know he's he's got
he's an Andrew Andrew Cuomo. Andrew, Oh no, No, Chris
Cuomo is Jack. Chris Cuomo is a monster. Yeah, he's
actually just straight Jack. Now, I mean the guy who
wants to be mayor instead of mom Donnie, his brother,
old man Cuomo. I think he's I think he's got
enough rage that he could probably do do decently on
(32:03):
the bench. And I'm sure Curtis Sleieva could throw around
some weight too, So Mom Donnie is definitely at the
at the low end of the strength pool. Oh and
also Mayor Eric Adams certainly, I mean he's sure he's
in decent shape.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's in good shape. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
His suits I think are cut so that you can
see that he is a man of considerable upper body strength.
In fact, I would wager so much. All Right, we're
going to get back to like politics and stuff here
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Hort I will say, meeting with the President of South
Korea today and uh he will give you some updates
on that as as we come up here in a
little bit. Some interesting happenings from that meeting with Trump.
Trump has been going for quite a while, and that
that's something we'll dive into also. We I want to
get to it last WEEKLYA. So it's I'm glad you
(34:21):
brought it up. I'm glad that people were all sassy
with you online about it too. The Smithsonian. It's really
more about these national museums or these you know federally uh,
you know, federally funded or the big the big museums
everyone thinks of, especially in DC, like the Smithsonian. They're
(34:43):
the wokeness that is in a lot of these exhibits,
and that now is is pervasive. Trump is pushing back
on it, and we should talk about that. We will
get into that here in a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Clay pushed back on it. And guess what they were
upset with him, The communists. They they came at him
with their nose rings and their dyed purple hair, and
they're they're very upset, very upset.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We'll get to it.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Brent in Saint Petersburg, Florida. He wants to commiserate with
Clay over getting pinned.
Speaker 11 (35:13):
Hey, guys, Hey, Clay and Buck Club. Clay don't feel bad.
You know what, I've been bodybuilding for fifteen years. I'm
fifty four. I had two twenty five on the bench.
I was feeling good. I was in my third set,
I think I was. I wanted to crank out four more.
I was buying myself. There's people in the room, you know.
But I dropped that last one down and I couldn't
(35:33):
get it up. I was stuck.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I didn't so what did you do?
Speaker 11 (35:36):
Clips on the side. I had the clips on the side.
I started putting my head back, betting back, looking for somebody.
I'm like, yeah, just got the strength to pull this
thing up, and I just I had to give up, man.
I had to pull some members. I pushed on my chest.
I could not get it up. Had a guide come
over and help me lift up and put it back
on the thing. First time that's ever happened to me
in fifteen years. But Clay, don't feel bad. It happens.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
That's where you gotta get up. Afterwards, you shake it off.
You're like, oh, there's one in a million, this's never
happened before.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know, you gotta Honestly, I've been afraid. I'm glad
he called in, because when you don't have a spotter.
That's why I've never put the clamps on the edge,
because the worst case scenario, you can just have him
roll off. But there I didn't want to terrify everybody,
and so I just slowly rolled it down my body
till it got to my hips. And I gotta tell you,
I got a lot of bruises today from that slow
(36:25):
roll of It was only one eighty five, wasn't two
twenty five. Some of these numbers get up so big
that the numbers can hit you. All right, buck, I
got ripped. People are gonna enjoy this. I got ripped
for my analogy on the Smithsonian on Fox News.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Did I back away? Of course not. But we'll dive
into this.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
What should the Smithsonian do about good and bad moments
in history?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!