Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 10 2025

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Breaking news on the economy, highlighting a surprising drop in wholesale inflation (PPI) and speculating on the potential for a Federal Reserve interest rate cut. They emphasize the ongoing crisis in housing affordability, pointing to skyrocketing mortgage rates and the lingering effects of inflation caused by pandemic-era spending and Biden administration policies.

The conversation pivots to the broader economic landscape, with commentary from Wells Fargo’s CEO suggesting consumer spending remains stable, though disparities between income levels persist. Clay and Buck argue that inflation has permanently embedded higher prices into everyday life—from grocery bills to restaurant meals—making it clear that pre-COVID pricing is gone for good. They blame Biden-era economic mismanagement and praise the Trump economy for beginning to reverse the damage.

Situational Awareness

In a powerful segment, the hosts address the brutal murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, North Carolina, using the case to spotlight systemic failures in the criminal justice system and the consequences of progressive policies. They discuss the racial dynamics of the crime and the disturbing lack of intervention from bystanders, drawing parallels to other recent violent incidents, including the stabbing of a retired veterinary professor in Alabama and a double homicide in Queens committed by a career criminal still at large.

The show also critiques the legacy of the Black Lives Matter movement and the media’s selective coverage of interracial violence, arguing that narratives around race and crime have been manipulated for political purposes. They revisit the short-lived “Stop Asian Hate” campaign, asserting that its demise was due to inconvenient video evidence contradicting mainstream assumptions.

RNC Chair Michael Whatley

Michael Whatley, Chairman of the RNC and Republican Senate candidate in North Carolina. Whatley discusses the shocking murder of Iryna Tkachenko in Charlotte and criticizes the soft-on-crime policies of Democratic Governor Roy Cooper. He emphasizes the need for judicial reform, stronger law enforcement support, and accountability for elected judges and magistrates who repeatedly release violent offenders.

The conversation expands to broader criminal justice failures, including a disturbing double homicide in New York City where an elderly couple was tortured and murdered. The hosts highlight the suspect’s history as a violent sex offender and criticize the media’s reluctance to cover such crimes when they don’t fit preferred narratives. They argue that progressive policies and BLM-era ideology have led to increased violence and a breakdown in public safety, especially in Democrat-run cities.

Gen Z Baby Crisis

Deep dive into the cultural and political fault lines shaping Gen Z America, with a sharp focus on gender roles, family values, and the generational divide in defining success. Using fresh NBC News polling data, Clay and Buck analyze how young men and women—particularly Trump and Harris voters—prioritize career, marriage, children, and emotional stability. The hosts argue that Gen Z men who support President Trump tend to value family formation, financial independence, and spiritual grounding, while Gen Z women aligned with Vice President Kamala Harris overwhelmingly prioritize career advancement and emotional wellness, placing marriage and motherhood at the bottom of their life goals.

A critical examination of modern feminism, the biological realities of aging and fertility, and the societal messaging that encourages women to delay family for career ambitions. Clay and Buck explore the psychological consequences of these choices, suggesting that many young women may be projecting personal dissatisfaction through political activism—such as labeling Trump “Hitler” at public events. The discussion also touches on dating trends, the decline of one-on-one relationships, and the impact of technology and ride-sharing on youth independence.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition. Almost lost at their

(00:04):
Clay Wednesday editions. Clay Travis said Buck Sexton Show, we
got to start with the right day. Very important, but
a lot of news going on, so lots are breeding
in to do this morning in preparation for the show
on things breaking, things happening. We are excited to speak
with all of you across this great land of ours,
so thank you for being here with us. Some important

(00:25):
numbers coming out on the economy. I'm going to dive
into that with play momentarily because that affects each and
every one of us. We've also got President Trump weighing
in and the DOJ saying that there will be swift
consequences in the case of Irena who was stabbed to
death in Charlotte. We've been talking a lot about that

(00:46):
horrific case this week. Also the case of the retired
veterinary professor from Alabama, another horrific case, another stabbing of
a woman. The assailant was black. It was a white
woman stabbed to death. People looking at that case and saying, well,
there's no video of it, so it doesn't have that
same visual impact, but the details of that are are

(01:07):
every bit as horrific. It's And there's another case in
New York City that I'm going to tell you about
that just happened. I'm not going deep into the archives.
Another instance of the failure of the criminal justice system.
And in this case, the perpetrator is still at large.
Double a double murder committed in New York City. We'll
talk about this in a few minutes at the bottom

(01:30):
of the hour, most likely. And Clay, We've got also
Kamala Harris's book is out. We will have some fun
discussing this, and she takes some shots at Biden, which
we knew was going to happen, because Heaven forbid Kamala
takes any accountability for running the worst I know it
was only ninety days or something, but still the worst

(01:52):
ninety day campaign imaginable. We will discuss that, have some
fun getting into all of it. But I wanted to
start off with some of the economic numbers because there's
anticipation of a rate cut. Look, this is something Clay,
we haven't talked about. Honestly, I think we've got a
lot of things to talk aboutter so I'm not gonna
say we haven't discussed it enough. But we certainly could

(02:12):
spend even more time on housing. Affordability in this country
is crazy right now. You have to make double the
money to be able to afford based on rates and
based on the cost of buying a new home in general,
double the money you did. What in twenty nineteen, twenty
twenty hasn't been that long a pre pandemic versus now

(02:35):
and immediate home prices. I'm talking nationwide, whether you live
in Oklahoma or Maine, or Arizona or California, whatever. Nationwide
home prices are at a place that seems unsustainable, and
there's a lot of people priced out of the market.
So we got big problems there. Good things, though, are
happening in the economy, and let's talk first about where

(02:57):
wholesale prices are. Here go CNBC's Santelly Clay talking about
where inflation is, where prices are Play clip one.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
PPI postsale inflation for August expected to be up three
tenths no, no, no, down one tenth of a percent
down one tenth Wow. That would be the first negative
numbers since April of this year, when it was minus
two tenths. Strip out food and energy. We're also expecting
up three tenths. It's minus one tenth as well, minus

(03:28):
one tenth the same. Last time we had a minus
number was April, and we're comping to minus two tenths
in April.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Now the year over year.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
In my opinion, these are the most important. Boy, I'm surprised.
Real progress here. Two point six on year over year headline.
We are expecting three point three in the rear view mirror.
Three point three two point six will be the lowest
since was two point four in June.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Clay, this is where the American people start chanting, slowly
but surely.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Rate cut, rate cut, rate cut, Well, they should cut
fifty basis points. And I'm looking, as you're telling us
all this, buck, I'm looking at the current mortgage rates
because this is the number one thing that I believe
is broken in our economy that Biden tanked. And I'll

(04:17):
explain it why in a minute. But according to the
numbers that I'm looking up right now, thirty year mortgage
is now around six point four to six point five percent,
a fifteen year is around five point six. Now that's
just me doing rapid search, so I don't want to
get deluged by all of you talking about what mortgage

(04:38):
rates you've got or what happens in your particular communities.
They're coming down and this is really important, and I
don't think necessarily that communication on this has explained exactly
what happened, but many of you are living it. We
went in the most rapid fashion of most of our lives,

(05:00):
from two point five percent mortgage rates on a thirty
year to over well over seven percent, approaching eight percent
in the space of about a year. And that is
because Jerome Powell was far too late to recognize that
inflation was becoming a major issue in this country. Remember Buck,
when he just kept saying it's transitory, it's transitory, and

(05:22):
then we went all the way, I believe in June
of twenty one, if I'm not mistaken, or maybe it
was June of twenty two to nine point one percent inflation.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Which was the worst in forty years, forty years.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
And it's not just that the inflation happened, it's that
it happened so rapidly that many people got handcuffed when
it came to buying or selling homes. And the number
one thing that would solve a lot of the issues
in the country today and a lot of you out
there nodding along with me, is if mortgage rates came

(05:57):
back to a reasonable level where people who are ready
to sell their homes aren't looking around saying, man, I
can't even afford anything because I'm going to have to
give up a two and a half percent mortgage and
take on a nine percent mortgage or an eight percent mortgage.
It's absolutely bonkers for you to do that, and a
lot of people got priced out because if you didn't

(06:18):
happen to get that two and a half or three
percent mortgage, then you're constantly chasing the market because other
people did. Now the result is, I think we're going
to get at least a twenty five basis point cut
next week, should be a fifty point basis cut, and
I think we should have a one point overall cut

(06:38):
in interest rates before the end of the year, and
that will help to solve some of the log jam
in housing, which I would argue economically is the biggest
issue hamstringing a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Look, we do get the emails and talkbacks from many
of you that are telling us, hey, guys, prices are
still really high. Prices are still really high. We get it,
you know, That is the reality of what happened during
the pandemic, which was printing trillions and trillions of dollars,
and then Biden printing the two trillion right when he
came into office, just adding gasoline to a fire that

(07:12):
was already raging. There is no free lunch. We printed
money without the attendant productivity behind it or the goods
and services behind it. We had rampant inflation, so we've
been paying for that, literally paying for that with high prices.
But the Trump economy is turning this around. So it's
not that we're unaware or anything else. It's that this

(07:35):
takes time, but the data is moving all of this
in the right direction. Side note Clay, it is still
astonishing that half the jobs in Biden's election year were
fake jobs, as they've now admitted. We mentioned this earlier
in the week, but I was reading a more detailed
analysis of it this morning. That is crazy. Put a
pin in that though, Wells Fargo's CEO somebody who has

(07:55):
to look at the macroeconomics of what's going on and
has to deal with, of course, mortgages and credit and
all these different things. Wells Fargo's a massive bank. I
just think you should hear from somebody who's, you know,
not necessarily a guy walking around in a maga hat.
I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he's not talking
about where the economy is played. Two.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
In our own data, things are remarkably stable. Consumer spend
continues at the same year over year pace across almost
all wealth levels. Consumer credit is as good as it's
been in the last six months. In fact, it's probably
trending a touch better. Companies are in really great shape.
We look at signs for any kind of change and
you just don't see it. And having said that, there

(08:34):
is this big dichotomy between higher income and lower income
consumers which continues and is a real issue. And when
you look at just the overall data in terms of jobs,
it's undeniable in terms of just job creation. So yeah,
things are actually feel very good today, certainly relative to
what you think they could be.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Thanks, feeling very good today. I mean, you know, look,
nothing's ever perfect with the economy. Clay could always be better,
but here there we are in September of Trump's first year.
It's moving the way it's supposed to be moving. Yeah,
mortgage rates important. You hit on the second thing, that
I think is important.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Prices are never coming back down, and I think that
is so challenging because people are angry when they go
to the grocery store, when they go to fast food.
Inflation is so toxic because basically, once the prices are there,
they never come back down. And I don't think a

(09:31):
lot of people recognize that necessarily because to your point, Buck,
we had two generations where effectively we didn't have Biden
era inflation, where we didn't have Jimmy Carter era inflation,
and a lot of you who lived through the nineteen
seventies that are listening to us right now, you said, yeah,
we dealt with this for a long time. Inflation rates

(09:52):
got all the way up I think to like seventeen percent,
if I'm not mistaken mortgage rates did. I mean, it's
crazy when you go back and look at some of
the historical economic data on this. You also used to
be able to get a return on a savings account,
I think in the teens in the eighties at one point,
right or maybe it was nine, ten to eleven. I mean,
there were times when you could put money.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Now, there was much higher inflation, but you could put
money in a savings account backed by the government and
get a return. We've been in an era now for years,
maybe decades, where to get return on your money. Essentially
most people end up putting it in the market in
some capacity because otherwise your money is being inflated away
all the time. But inflation is a particularly pernicious thing

(10:35):
because not only doesn't raise prices, but it turns out
to be a tax on wage earners because they don't
have the attended assets that get inflated like home prices
along with it. And if their wages don't keep up,
you just have less buying power, which you feel when
you're paying your rent, buying your groceries, filling up the
gas in your car. But it's a long term thing, right,
or it takes longer to feel that than it does

(10:56):
the initial Let's just pay everybody to stay home and
then spend trillions and dollars under Biden that we should
never have spent totally.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And remember Biden wanted to spend five trillion, and Joe
Manchin said, I can't go above one point nine. So
things would have actually been double digit inflation if Biden
had gotten what he wanted. But the anger I get
it You're never going to be able to buy a
hamburger for the price that you did before COVID. That's
never going to occur. Your cereal is never going to

(11:25):
be the price that it was before COVID. Those prices
are now embedded thanks to Biden's economic failures, and I
think some people believed, oh, prices are going to just
go back to what they were in twenty nineteen, and
when you don't see it in your grocery bill, that
is frustrating to people. This is why it's so toxic.

(11:47):
This is why the Biden economy was so awful. Now,
some places, prices fluctuate more. Price of gas, for instance,
you are definitely feeling, hey, we're at four year lows
and what costs to fill up the tank. But the
price on gas is far more of a fluctuating factor
than the price on groceries or the price on fast food,

(12:09):
which is where I think a lot of people still
and I'm in this camp, just are are frustrated every
time you get a bill because things cost way more
than you think they should cost. And that is a
function of poor economic decisions, to your point, Buck, that
were led by the Biden administration.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I tell you. And I'm not not even talking about
our wonderful sponsor Good Ranchers, although I am making one
of their steaks tonight for dinner, so I'll just throw
that in there, so I guess I am talking about them.
You go out to a restaurant these days and you
get a steak, and whether it's a good steak a
mediocre steak, I can't find a steak anywhere. And now
I know it's Miami, and you're gonna say it's expensive,
We're gonna be in Fort Wayne. I guarantee you if

(12:47):
we go out to the steakhouse in Fort Wayne, Clay
if flay is like sixty five seventy bucks these days
for one for one. I mean, I remember we used
to go have a steak dinner for seventy dollars. I
know it sound like some guy from the old old
days or something, but the price is food prices. They
can't hide from you, and at a restaurant because they
have to add in all the attendant costs of labor

(13:08):
and tax and everything else. You can see what they
have to run up in order to run a business.
I mean, you cannot get a fill a in a
metro area of the United States, right, I know you
can't get like a decent steak for less than sixty bucks. Really,
I mean it's very hard to find.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
It is.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Again, everything costs more than it should. And to your
point on the file A, we go to a restaurant
I love it. It's in Franklin, Tennessee, right, not far
from where we live, called the chop House. Not a
super fancy place, great service. I love this place. They
didn't know they were going to get a shout out.
My son ordered a filly a steak the other day.

(13:45):
We went to go eat there and the wager came
over and he said, Hey, I just want to let
you know, this is the most affordable place like I
can think of where you can go sit down. He said,
the cost on our fill at is now over forty dollars.
We've had to keep changing that. It's not even included
in the menu now. And I think a lot of
you have probably experienced that where you go. I'm not

(14:07):
talking about how many ounces are we talking too? Are
we talking eight ounce full a?

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Look?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I take my meat very seriously. Were talking eight ouns
ten ounce fil a? I mean I would to wear
an eight ounce fil a pretty easily.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
We're not talking about the place where you had to
buy me the fancy steak and you're still.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Paying that off play. You want to talk about mortgage rates.
That's where all my money's going. After Biden dropped out
of the race. We're not talking about this. This is
a great, really local establishment. But I do think that
many of you feel this when you go in the
other thing that's happened is, and this is me being
a kind of looking at the data, the difference between
fast food and like casual, sit down restaurant prices has

(14:44):
almost vanished. Like you can't eat affordably at fast food anymore.
I mean, I order shakeshack here with carry sometimes and
it's fifty bucks.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm just getting two burgers and some fries. She always says,
don't get the fries. By the way, to all the
husbands out there, Obviously we get the fries, you know
what I mean. Like they say don't get the fries,
You get the fries, and they're happy you got the
fried when they're there. When those hot fries show fries
show up, no one's ever upset that you got them.
But people will tell you don't ever live and even
when you're out of a restaurant, clay important rule whenever

(15:14):
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
The biggest story in the nation still this week has
to do with the criminal justice systems failures, the Democrat
narratives on crime, the really the legacy of the BLM movement,
and the BLM ideology Black Lives Matter. After the footage

(16:47):
was fully released of Ukrainian refugee, a war refugee, a
true refugee, not all these fake refugees scamming our system
at our southern border. Irenea Zarutzka, this beautiful young woman
who was viciously stabbed to death. The video shows the
completely out of nowhere I mean, unprovoked certainly, but also

(17:09):
just a completely just There's no way she could have known,
no way that she could have unless she just refused
to sit next to this individual. Based on appearance. There's
no way that she could have known anything bad. What's
going to happen to her, and then she stabbed in
the neck. She sits there. It is gut wrenching. I've

(17:29):
watched the whole video. Clay has watched the whole video.
We'll tell you about it. I'm not sure that all.
I mean, Carrie, it's been really bothering her, you know, yeah,
and really stuck with other people that I know. It's
horrific imagery, but it is important that the public has
access to it and is aware of it. Let me
also just say, Clay, I have read numerous accounts that

(17:51):
there is video footage of the fatal stabbing of Austin
metcalf in Texas. Yes, by Carmelo Anthony, who has since
had members of his community raise I believe, over a
million dollars for him and now has a public defender
after that.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
And we should mention for people who have forgotten. These
are the high school kids at a track meet, black kids,
stabs white kid in the heart over nothing and kills
him in cold blood right there.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes, and I think that that video also needs to
be released. I think that when people see that video
they will be horrified. I think we all understand why
they have not released that video so far. And we
are noticing a pattern here when the video is delayed.
This city council in Charlotte, my understanding, Clay, is that
they initially voted not to release the video of the

(18:47):
Irena Zarutzka fatal stabbing. It's horrific. Something else from this video, Clay,
the callous nature of individuals around those woman. Look, we
can separate this right away, so everyone's very clear. I
I mean, I have had people who are as adept
with edge weapons as a Fort Bragg edge weapons instructor.

(19:10):
Tell me that if you think you're gonna fight somebody
with a knife and win, you got another thing coming.
They don't have to be skilled. It is that you're
an enormous disadvantage. I bring this up because the problem
is not that someone didn't necessarily try to tackle this
guy right away. You know, you're frozen in terror. He's
stabbing somebody. You could be next. Now, some of you
listening to this, you know your former Green Berets, you

(19:31):
know your former law enforcement. You're an army ranger. You
know you might step in a lot of people are
going to be scared, Clay, to step into a maniac
with a knife. And that doesn't that's a self preservation thing.
I think we can just be honest about that. Right
if somebody has at different if someone's strangling somebody, but
if somebody has a knife, you have to make that
determination about whether you think you could intervene without you
getting stabbed to death too. The problem is this individual

(19:55):
leaves the train and Irena is there in terror, clutching
at her neck, and and people just leave her and
no one does anything. No one even makes a move
to call the police on their phones. We can see this.
They just let her bleed to death.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's an impossibly difficult video to watch. I think adults
need to see it. I also think if we're looking at.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
That and everyone on the train is black and she
is white, which has been pointing out to everybody, this
is video. You can see this, just to be clear
that there's a dynamic here that people are addressing, which
is nobody thought to help this woman. What's going on here?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think also I was talking with producer ally about this.
In the same way, in New York City, a lot
of people won't stand near the tracks because you are
unfortunately aware that people might shove you in front of
an oncoming train. This is a huge fear of anybody
that ever rides public transportation in New York City or
any other subway type environment. The other thing I would

(20:55):
say is, I think a lot of people need to
be sitting with their back in the back row if
you have to ride public transport transportation. If I have daughters,
I've certainly got sons, I'm telling them that unfortunately, because
of safety issues, you can't trust who's behind you or

(21:16):
what might occur. The really awful thing about watching this
video is once she sat down and selected that seat,
there was nothing she could have done to keep herself
from getting killed. She gets stabbed and never knows the
stabbing is coming, and he stabs her multiple times. There
is nothing even a grown man who is bigger than

(21:41):
the guy who was stabbing would have been able to
defend himself. When somebody stabs you from behind, you have
no ability to defend yourself. I think you have to,
and I mean this honestly. I would talk to my sons.
I would talk to my daughters. If you're out there
listening to us right now, if you are riding public transportation,
I hate to have this discussion. You need to be

(22:02):
with your back against something where no one can come
at you without you being able to see them. And
I'm having this conversation with producer ally this like the
old school mafia guy. You know, when the mafia guy would.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Eat in the with my back to the entrance, and
I need to know where the exit is. I know
a lot of freaking up a mafia. I know a
lot of CIA guys. That's how they go through their
whole life.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Still is like I'm sitting with my back against a wall.
I see everybody that comes in. There is no h
inability of me to analyze threats. Now, could the guy
with the knight to your point, Buck, even if he's
coming straight on her, is it unlikely that she's going
to be able to defend her relative to him, Probably,
but at least she is with a back against her

(22:47):
able to see him coming, as opposed to being stabbed
and never actually even knowing that her life was coming
to a close. I think that's what's so particularly difficult
about watching this video is you can see her turn,
see that she has been killed, know that something is wrong,
and then watch her slowly bleeding out on the video.

(23:08):
It's brutal, but we need to see it because it's
unacceptable to happen anywhere in America to anyone and.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
One thing that Look, this is a change in the
narrative moment, I think broadly nationally. It's not going to
affect policy in every city. It's not going to change
laws everywhere, but the perception has changed about interracial violence
in this country as a result of this, how it
is treated by law enforcement, how it is covered by

(23:34):
the media, and what the realities by the numbers are
for how our criminal justice system is treating people, What
is happening, who is being kept safe, who is not?
And so I think in that sense it is a
little bit of a late nineties, you know OJ Simpson moment.
Remember the OJ Simpson trial happened. I think the first

(23:55):
person I ever heard make this case was actually Ant Culter,
But she said, the OJ Simpson trial happened. And it
wasn't just the verdict in the O. J. Simpson trial.
It was the widespread support which I saw with my
own eyes as a kid, of people across the country
from within. Now I'm not saying it was everyone, or
even a majority or but there was enough support for
OJ from the black community. And when he clearly murdered

(24:17):
those two people. I mean, one was his ex wife,
the mother of children. The other was just a guy
who happened to be there. And there was cheering all
over the country. You Clay, you saw this too, right,
and this happened. There was cheering in my school from
the black students in my school at the verdict. It
was the only time I can remember there being radios
turned on in every classroom to hear the verdict of
a trial. That's how fixated on this one. And there

(24:39):
was a moment where you just said, you know what,
the laws of the law were actually going to not
allow this this stuff to happen anymore, no more trying
to deal with racial injustice of the past by creating
racial injustice today. And I think that this may be
another turning point, another moment in time where people see
this and they say, you can't have people arrested fifteen
times and take it seriously when they murder some girl

(25:01):
who's trying to get home from her job after fleeing
a war zone, that's unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I also think I think all that is well said,
and I like the analogy and and Culter talking about, Hey,
this was clearly OJ got away with killing two innocent
white people, slaughtering them.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
And a lot of people cheered for it.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Was there, and all of the evidence dictated that he
was guilty, and as time has passed, I think it
opened a lot of people's eyes to racism. Here's what
I would say in general. He said, basically, I got
that white girl, and I'm quoting this guy who stabbed
Arena to death. There's a lot of racism that has

(25:43):
nothing to do with white people in America. And I
think if we want to really have a conversation, the
idea that only racism can occur white too black is
one of the most dishonest things that is said in
America at all.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
That is an official BLM narrative. By the way that
the race hustlers out there, the people that have made
careers of this, they say that because of historic power
and balance, it is in fact impossible for a black
person to be racist. It is impossible. That is the
official theory of the Ibram X Kendy's and people and
Robin DeAngelo's. That is a lie. That is a lie. Clearly, Clearly,

(26:23):
many of these incidents that we can talk about here
involve a racial animist from a black person to a
white person that resulted in a murder, a grizzly murder
in this case. And Clay, we couldn't even finish talking
about this. And we had the people I was talking
about on Monday. You were out Monday. But the murder
of that retired veterinary professor from she was in Auburn,

(26:45):
alum in Auburn. And now I've got this other story.
You've got another career criminal. Okay, this guy is on
the loose, still a violent sex offender and career criminal.
He killed two elders people in Queens. This just happened.
He is He is a career criminal. They like I said,

(27:06):
registered sex offender. He is a black man named Jamel McGriff.
He is on the run. Play he tied He knocked
on the door of these elderly people for assistance. He
tied them up, set the man on fire, stabbed them
both to death, and then try to start a fire
to burn down the whole building.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Again, we can do the if this, if a white
guy did this the two elderly black people anywhere in
the United States, it would be the biggest story in
the war, in the country, in the world. You know
we'd all be told the KKK was rising again in
all this, but but yeah, we're not supposed to notice this,
we're not supposed to talk about this. This just happened.
He's still he's still on the loose.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Remember Biden said the biggest threat in America was white supremacy.
I mean, that was the talking point of the Democrat
Party that America's biggest threat is white supremacy. And I
think a lot of black people are looking and hearing
all this and recognize just how dishonest much of the
coverage around BLM was. Because if you want there to

(28:06):
be fewer murders, as everyone of all racists should, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic,
everyone out there listening, we should all want there to
be fewer murders in America, you have to look at
who's committing murders. And this idea that black people were
in danger from white people is just crazy if you
look at the statistical data, that almost never happens. And

(28:28):
yet this is where I come back to the anecdotal
world in which we live. If you take any anecdote,
it should be representative of a larger problem. It shouldn't
be a outlier. That is almost never occurring that we're
using to try to drive public policy. That's frankly what
George Floyd was. And remember the moment was awful death

(28:50):
for white more people.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
The moment in time where there was a stop Asian
hate campaign. Now, if you want to look at got
that down. Yeah, what's really interesting is you look at
crimes within the Asian community. And by the way, in
New York City, there's a very Now Asian is so expansive.
When you say Asia, you're talking Bangladeshia, you're talking Taiwanese.
I mean, there's a whole. You know, Asia is a
very big place. But there are elements or members of

(29:13):
the Asian community who were actually quite poor but have
incredibly low crime rates. So this is one of the
ways you can just dismiss this, Oh, poverty causes crime.
That's a lie that data doesn't support it. It's just
not true. There's no causation there. But the stop Asian
hate thing got stopped because of video, yes, and we
were being told that there were the The insinuation was

(29:34):
there's like maga hat wearing white guys spitting on Asian
people or being mean to Asian people, attacking Asian people.
And what we saw over and over and over again
was that it was non white men who were attacking
Asian people. And so they got rid of the whole
stop Asian hateop.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Stop Asian hate vanished because black guys were the ones
that were causing almost all of the Asian beatdowns and violence.
And so that remember it was what about lasts like
six weeks stop Asient hate. We got to stop Asient hate,
and all the videos kept coming out and it was
just black guys knocking out Asian people, and people were like, yeah,
you know, I guess maybe this Asian thing's not such
a big deal, right, And again, what they are looking

(30:13):
for is the right people to be criminal. Look, this
whole trans shoot up, the Minneapolis in Nashville story vanished.
Guy wrote kill Trump on the gun and yeah, they
hid it just is gone.

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Speaker 3 (32:37):
It's the biggest story continues to be the brutal murder
of Arena Zurutska and the video in full totality being
a release yesterday afternoon after we got off the show,
and one of the people that is responsible sadly for

(32:57):
the fact that this individual was allowed to be back
out onto the streets is the former governor of North Carolina,
Roy Cooper, who was instrumental in putting in place the
soft on crime policies that allowed this guy to be
arrested fourteen times and then to brutally attack and murder
an innocent twenty three year old sitting on Charlotte public transit.

(33:22):
And one of the individuals running to try to ensure
that the Republican Senate seat currently held by Tom Tillis
remains in the hands of Republicans and that soft on
crime Democrats are not allowed to advance to Washington, d
C is Michael Wattley, former chair of the RNC. He
is running in North Carolina. He is going to be

(33:42):
the Republican nominee, and he joins us now. And so
let's start with the very basics on this story. When
did you become aware, Chairman Wattley, about this video and
this murder and what is the real action like as
you travel around the state of North Carolina to it's

(34:04):
now being released in full totality.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Sure you know I write about the murder the day
after it happened. There was there was a little bit
of local coverage done in North Carolina, but really only
when the video came out did you get the visuals
and understand, you know, how depraved this guy was and
how horrific this this attack was. You know, before that
it was really just a statistic And the fact is,

(34:30):
you know that this guy should not have been on
that car, he should not have been walking around the city,
He should not have been a threat to the people
of North Carolina. And so every conversation that I'm having
across North Carolina, people are just in shock that this
guy was allowed, you know, on the streets after having
been arrested fourteen different times and and let out through

(34:54):
a revolving door. And I think a lot of people
are very disgusted with the leadership from the Democrat Party,
which really starts at the top with Roy Cooper, and
that they wanted to put in place policies that we're
going to foster that revolving door and let these guys
out rather than have to pay the punishment to society

(35:17):
when they committed crimes.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Chrman Wattley, it's buck. Thanks for being here with us.
You alluded to this just a moment ago. I'm wondering
if you could give us a little bit more detail
because we do like to try to focus on the
action items, you know, what could be done differently in
the future, What needs to be changed to make these
situations far less common than unfortunately are where there's a

(35:39):
repeat offender commits a heinous murderer, and then finally the
system says, oh, I guess we have to do something
about this. What could be different, whether it's in the
city of Charlotte specifically, or in North Carolina state law,
What would you like to see changed in the system
that would make it function better to protect all North Carolinians.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yeah, well, you need to keep repeat offenders off the streets.
I think that's the first place that you've got to start.
You know, you look at a city like Charlotte, but
it's not just Charlotte. I mean you can look at
every single community across North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
UH.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
And and you worry about this type of a safety issue.
You could go out to California, you can go to
New York, you know, and and and I think that
that having a system in place where we're going to
run back the blue and make sure that they have
the resources that they need. All the men and women
in uniform uh to keep our kids in our communities safe.

(36:29):
We need to make sure that we're going to do that.
But then secondly, they have to be prosecuted and there
have to be real consequences. You know, when when Roy
Cooper signs an executive order that says, I want to
reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina. The laws do not
need to be reimagined. They need to be enforced, you know.
And and so that that is something that President Trump,

(36:52):
thank God, and Pam bondi are our great Attorney General,
are working on every single day in every single one
of these communities. I find it amazing that the Democratic
leadership absolutely lost their mind when President Trump sent federal
troops in to quell the riots out in Los Angeles,
and then they absolutely are horrified that he said he

(37:14):
was going to clean up Washington, d C. By sending
an assistance, which even the mayor, Muriel Bowser says is
a great thing. You know. But everywhere you look, the
Democrats are fighting harder for violent criminal repeat offenders like
this than they are the victims and the carnage that
those guys are sowing in our communities.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
We get asked this question a lot, what should happen
to the judges and the magistrates who are consistently letting
violent criminals back out on the streets. The das, obviously,
who are taking soft on crime deals to allow this
to occur or not beyond reproach, we talk about the
elected officials, what about the judges themselves? For North Carolinians

(37:53):
and frankly, for Americans all over the country who are
outraged by what they've seen in this video. It was
eminently predictable that a violent predator would act in violent
and predatory fashion, and unfortunately this young woman was the victim,
but it could have been many different young women, young
men all over the state of North Carolina. How do
we stop this from happening? From a judicial perspective.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah, I think it's a very important note, you know,
because in North Carolina, judges are elected. You know, when
I took over as the state party chair in North Carolina,
Democrats had a six to one advantage on the Supreme
Court and they had a majority on the Court of Appeals.
I created a judicial Victory Fund where we raised money
specifically to put it into those judicial races. And today

(38:38):
we have a conservative Supreme Court, we have a conservative
Court of Appeals. But that needs to be the case
in every one of these localities. You know that when
we see judges who are acting against the interests of
their communities, they need to be voted out. Obviously that's
different on a federal level, where we have to go
through the impeachments. But the judges in all of these

(38:58):
different cases, could you know in Charlotte, North Carolina, and
and really truly there do need to be ramifications when
people are going to continually put the interest of criminals
ahead of uh, you know, the community at large.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
But you know, oh sorry, sir, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. I was going to ask about this, this
status of this this uh special what do they call that?
There wasn't really a judge. It was a magistrate, right
that let this individual out the most recent time, a
magistrate that didn't pass the bar exam. How can somebody

(39:37):
who hasn't proven any ability in the law be entrusted
with dispensing justice based on the law. I think a
lot of people look at this and say, what is
going on?

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Well, I think they should say that, right, this is
really this is really appalling, and I think it is
something structurally that we need to take a look at.
In North Carolina. Clearly, every state is going to have
different laws in terms of how they're dealing with this,
but it starts at the top. You know, Roy Cooper
was the attorney general and then the governor of North Carolina,

(40:09):
and he said very clearly, I want to have a
soft on crime policy. I want to reimagine law enforcement
in North Carolina. He put these executive orders in place,
and he set a tone for the rest of the
judicial system all the way down to this particular magistrate.
And that is just inexcusable. It's a complete failure of

(40:30):
leadership at the top.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
The campaign is going to be a grueling, arduous undertaking.
And I know you're traveling all over North Carolina, and
I know the answer anytime you say how do elections
get one is all over a state, all over a community.
People have to come out and vote. But I saw
this morning. I was watching the press conference of a
lot of different Charlotte leaders. Over one hundred people I

(40:55):
think are murdered every year in Charlotte. And so while
Arena Zurutska the video is captivating in an awful and
eerie and horrific way, they're at least ninety nine to
other plus people who are often innocent victims of violent
crime in Charlotte. What is a reasonable thing that a

(41:15):
Senate campaign can do over the next year plus to
try to shine a light on everybody who is dying
unfortunately in our large cities, often run by Democrats, to
try to change that story.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Yeah. Look, the safety of our kids and communities is
an absolute top tier issue for our campaign, and President
Trump ran on this in twenty twenty four. It is
an issue set that really truly resonates all across North Carolina.
You know, for us to think about the leadership in
this state, you know, I go back to twenty twenty
when Antifa riots, they're burning down Raleigh and Roy Cooper,

(41:52):
the Governor's out there marching with them. Right. This is
not the type of leadership that we need, you know,
in democratic leadership, whether it's aoc Zorn Mom, Donnie Bernie Sanders,
or anybody else. You know, they're out there fighting aggressively
for criminals. They're not fighting for families and communities. And
I think that is a spotlight we're going to be

(42:14):
shining from one end of the state to the other.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's been almost exactly one year since the Hurricane Helene.
Awfulness happened in western North Carolina. We traveled in there.
We have a great affiliate in Nashville. What are you
seeing of Western North Carolina? How is the recovery going
from your perspective?

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Well, look, the people in the communities of western North
Carolina are so strong and so resilient, but you know,
FEMA and the Cooper administration really failed them when hurricane
came through. And so President Trump, when he was put
in office, won this election and he was sworn in.
His very first trip was to western North Carolina and

(42:57):
took me along with him, and I'm grateful for that.
And we saw the devastation that was still in place
because you know, Governor Cooper and President Biden had completely
failed that region. And since then, the administration has put
hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars of resources in.

(43:17):
It's been in It's not just FEMA, but it has
been a whole of government. Right just last week we
saw us DA with two hundred and twenty million dollars
of support there. We've seen one point four billion dollars
coming in and housing assistance from hud We've also seen
hundreds of millions of dollars that have come in from
the Small Business Administration to help the forty five thousand

(43:39):
small businesses that were affected by that storm. But you know,
obviously the FEMA role is tremendously important. I appreciate President
asking me to be on the FEMA Review Council to
take a look at what happened coming out of Hurricane
Helene and make sure that we don't ever have a
response like that.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Again, Chairman Wantley, where can folks go to help out?
Learn more about all of you above for your campaign.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Wadleyfirsenate dot com. And we certainly need a movement all
across North Carolina. It is going to be the marquee
Senate race in the entire country. You know, we go back.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Can I ask you, Shan, what kind of money are
the Democrats going to throw into this race? Would you guess?
Just put like if you were in a ballpark it
for me.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
I fully expect the Democrats will spend two hundred and
fifty to three hundred million dollars in this race in
North Carolina, and they're not going to have it is
It is absolutely staggering the amount of money that the
Democrats are throwing at this and of course it's coming
from Chicago, it's coming from Saint Louis, it's coming from
San Francisco, it's coming from New York and everywhere else

(44:46):
other than North Carolina. But the fact is, we need
a senator who is going to fight for every family
and every community in the state. And President Trump needs
an ally in the Senate and I'm going to be
that voice.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Thank you, Chairman Watley, good luck. We'll have you on
i'm sure again soon to talk about the North Carolina
Senate campaign, which is going to be one of the
biggest battlegrounds in all of the midterms next year.

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You don't know what you don't know right, but you
could on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck gets going
right now, everybody, thank you for being here with us.
And something that got well, honestly just moved down the
news priority list because of some of the huge things
that have been going on this week. But I want
to spend some time to talking about it because it
is one of those broad conversations about politics and America

(46:44):
and what's going on today that answers a lot of
questions right now and also gives us a sense as
to what the future is going to look like, what
is going on when it comes to men and women
and their views of life, specifically for Gen Z adults. Now,

(47:05):
all of our boomers boomers listening, we love you. This matters,
as you know, because these are your kids or grandkids
in many cases, and they shall inherit this republic of ours.
And there's some really stark differences. This is from NBC
News polling data about people eighteen to twenty nine years old.

(47:30):
So that's Gen Z. I am a gray beard millennial. Clay,
what are you silent generation some other You're not a millennial.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I am the youngest Gen X. You're Joe. I am
the youngest generation, member of the generation that has saved
America by supporting Dona more than any other generation.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
My older brother who is also of your generation, you
guys at the same age. Mason very quick to point
out that Gen X probably has the best generation rep
right now. It's certainly in the media world, like everyone's
like Gen X just getting it done, all cool, and
you know, collected millennials, we got some rough stuff because
we complained a lot about the housing and mortgage meltdown stuff.

(48:14):
In two thousand and eight and what that did to
our careers. But let's let's look at the gen Z
situation right now, because Clay, perhaps this is something you've
addressed in your upcoming book, Palls. Ye men, men are
trending in a very clear direction in that generation. So
young men, young adult men right now. This is from

(48:36):
NBC News data, young men who voted for Trump. So
gen Z eighteen to twenty nine, who voted for Trump.
What is important to a personal definition of success? Thirty
four percent of them said having children thirty three percent,
financial independence, thirty percent, fulfilling job career, twenty nine percent,

(48:58):
being married. And then they go into some other things,
doing what you want, being grounded spiritually twenty four percent.
Got to get those are rookie numbers on spiritual grant,
but you know, we got to get that up a
little bit, making community proud all this stuff, right, Women
who voted for Harris, this is what was really stark.
Remember young men who vote for Trump, young women who

(49:21):
vote for Harris, That's what we're looking at here. Fifty
one percent said fulfilling job or career. That's the number
one thing by far, fulfilling job, having money to do
what you want forty six percent emotional stability, which a
lot of these women got to work on. I gotta
tell you, thirty nine percent financial independence, thirty two percent

(49:43):
have it using your talents, thirty seven percent owning a home,
twenty percent having children. Clay and being married were tied
for them at the very bottom of the list at
six percent. This is a vision of two paths for

(50:04):
the genders in America as defined by political affiliation today
or separated by political affiliation today. All these women who
are voting for Harris, who are in their twenties, don't
care at all about family formation, which is stunning. Honestly,
you see that data, It is stunning.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I think it's a sign and this is probably going
to get clipped, so prepare yourselves for the headlines.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I love it when he does this. Where's media matters
go for it?

Speaker 6 (50:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I think it's a sign that women are have been
sold to mass delusion. A lot of young women. And
let me explain why. The only reason to want, in
my opinion, a fulfilling job and a career is so
you can afford to have a family. I look, there

(50:54):
are relatively few people whose careers are so important that
they change the world. Okay, if you told me right now, Hey,
Elon Musk, Yeah, he might not be a great dad.
I think he's an incredible and he might be a
great dad. I'm not saying it's a negative, but I'm
saying like his career is so important potentially to the

(51:15):
future of the civilization that I can say, Okay, that
seems like a really good use of his time. You
would want, I think people who are supreme geniuses. If
you could have two kids, or you could solve cancer,
I would submit to you. Ideally you could do both,
but if you had to choose, curing cancer would be

(51:37):
a better societal benefit than you having two kids. Most
people have jobs, though, not to cure cancer or to
solve all the issues that Elon Musk is trying to solve,
but just to be able to have the resources to
have children.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
It's a means to an end to pay bills. That's
why you get paid for it. If it were fun,
they wouldn't have to pay you for it. Now, some
jobs like Clay and I are lucky. We both love
our jobs and we get paid for it. But it
took a long time to get to a place where
that was the case, and this is the reality for
a lot of women play right now. I saw this

(52:14):
from my graduating class at Amherst, Okay, at Emhers College.
There are all these women who at that time were
going into management consulting like McKenzie Baine remember where Mitt
Romney was, Or they went into investment banking. That is
a situation where you are going to work eighty hours

(52:37):
a week for years and years and years to make money.
You are not curing cancer, you are not. All of
the women that I knew who went into that dropped out.
All of them dropped out because that is not the
way that they want to spend their lives. But society
had set them up for this. Society had convinced them

(52:58):
that this is what they should do.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I also think, and again, these are eighteen to twenty
nine year olds, women who voted for Harris, men who
voted for Trump. I also think it is likely to
be the number one complaint of the Harris voting women
that they can't find good men worth dating and having
families with. But all of the young men who are

(53:21):
Trump voters actually want to get married and have kids,
and the women don't want to. And here's the other
thing about this that I think is indicative of having
been sold a false bill of goods. And by the way,
eight hundred and two two eight a two, maybe you
are in this eighteen to twenty nine year old female
group and you want to react, maybe you are in

(53:42):
the male group. But what is interesting to me about
this as well, Buck, is the women should be the
ones focused on having children because and I don't want
to throw anybody into a full panic here, but a
twenty nine year old woman who hasn't gotten married and
hasn't had kids has a biological clock to worry about

(54:03):
that a twenty nine year old man does not have
in the same way to worry about. So, if anything,
these should be flipped, Buck, because women, because of biology,
have to think about having children at younger ages than
men do.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
If you're over thirty five, it's a geriatric it's officially
medically a geriatric pregnancy. That's what they call it, a
geriatric pregnancy, and the risks factors go up all across.
They should tell people this in schools. By the way,
I didn't learn this stuff until I was an adult.
To be honest with you, I didn't know all the
things all the risk factors that increase. Now, I'm not

(54:40):
saying that that people can make their own life choices.
Some people just want have a career, some people don't
have a family. It's not about denying anybody a choice.
It's about giving them the facts and the reality of
what is likely and what is true in general or
true in the aggregate about these things. And for most women,
I mean, I'll put it this way, Clay, most guys
that I know, if they weren't trying to date and orget,

(55:02):
you know, date and get married, would work a lot
less hard. They'd spend a lot more time in leisure
and whatever. But they want to build something. They'll want
to be providers. There's something instinctive and instinctual for men
about this. For women, they are generally not always generally
set up differently for what will be a successful and

(55:24):
happy life path. But the influences. Now, you grew up
in a more traditional Americana place than I did, so
I can speak from the New York City perspective, which
is the same in Los Angeles, and very similar in Chicago,
and very similar in d C. And you know, these
urban centers where the women of my generation were all

(55:44):
told you need to be You need to compete with
men in the workplace. You need to spend the same
kind of hours. You need to put your career first
and figure out family later. And I have seen it
now that I'm in my forties. This has resulted in
life path disappointment and in some cases devastation for a
lot of very talented and you know, wonderful young women

(56:05):
who now can have families or never had a family,
and they want to. I'm not talking to the people
that don't want to. They want to, but they got
their timelines mixed up. I see this women who vote
for Harris Thing and none of them care about being
married or having children. They're going to change there also
for what so you can be the first female VP
at the marketing firm at age thirty five or at

(56:25):
age forty. You think that that's guys generally want to
do that so they can have a wife and kids
that they can provide for.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yes, what you are aspiring to to be a suit
in middle management is what people usually do so they
can have kids. And when I look at this, I
just think that young women have been sold a bill
of goods on what the goal of life is because

(56:58):
if your goal is just to a mass job title
and then die by yourself, Okay, that seems kind of lonely.
It seems not very fulfilling. And I just think that
a lot of young women, and I think, frankly, Buck,
this is what you're seeing these women they get older,

(57:19):
they deeply inside, this is me psychoanalyzing, they deeply inside
reject some of the choices that they made to give
up a family to be to your point of VP
and a bland accounting firm or something. No offense to
everybody out there working in accounting, but I don't think
people are doing cartwheels into the accounting office every day

(57:39):
because they feel like they're changing the world in such
a positive way, and they make politics their life's focus
because they have to pour their energy and their soul
and them and vigor and vitality into something and it's
not motherhood and instead Donald Trump is hitler. I thought

(58:01):
about this gen Z thing when I saw Trump goes
to a steakhouse and there's just a bunch of chicks
that show up and scream a chant that he's hitler
to him, and you can watch Trump walk over and
kind of look at him like you chicks are crazy,
Like you can kind of see it, as I guarantee you.
In his head, he's like, what are these girls doing? Like,

(58:22):
how is your life's ambition to show up when somebody's
eating at a steakhouse and call him hitler? I think
you've given up the plot on life. And I think
your des a lot of.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
A lot of projection. The psychologists would call it of
their frustration that they externalize in order to avoid dealing
with the realities of the choices that they have made.
So Trump is hitler gives them something to feel bigger
than themselves and like they they're a part of something
because a lot of them, the choices that they have made,

(58:54):
don't let them feel that way day in and day out,
you know. I mean I tell my friends this, So
my families play at the most basic level, not getting
into the spiritual and you know, being a Catholic who's
trying to now become actually more of a of a
real Catholic and going back to the church. But just
on a basic day to day level, I just think
that take care of your people is my basic life philosophy.

(59:16):
Obviously your family first and then the people around you,
and that can keep you really busy if you're actually
doing that, if you're taking care of your people, you
really don't have time like those sad people we saw
in DC at the inauguration, to be out in the
freezing cold for six hours shouting about how Trump is
hitler with nobody listening. You know, yeah, but if you
don't have that and you're not taking care of you,

(59:38):
and I don't just mean having kids, and some people
can't have kids, and we're sensitive to that, of course,
but the people around you making decisions to be meaningful
in their lives and to have that consideration and that
discipline in your day to day that's hard. Showing up
with your purple hair and you're screaming and your you know,
Trump is is is the Antichrist, although they probably wouln't

(01:00:00):
put it that way. He's hitler, that's easy, that's so,
that's just narcissism. Here's a question for you as we
go to break and I'd be curious to hear from
people again. This is an NBC News poll eighteen to
twenty nine year old voters what they care about, male
and female. How many women are lying?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Because when I saw these numbers, I'm like how many
women feel bad to say, hey, what matters to me
is getting married and having kids, because they feel like
they're turning their back on feminism if they say that,
and so they're just lying because they think other people
want to hear. It's crazy to me that fifty one

(01:00:39):
percent of people would say my career is my top priority.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I don't know, man, I had when before I met
my wife and the love of my life I had.
I had women bail on dates, but I'd asked them
out on because they found out that I was a Trumper.
So they said, look, you may be incredibly charming and
have amazing hair, but you voted for Trump and I
have to back out of this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
They didn't say that first part, but that's what they
were thinking. So I'm just saying some of these ladies
are crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I think some of them are crazy. I think women
are more susceptible to worrying about what others think in
general than men are, and so I wonder whether they're
being honest in their responses.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Let's get some gen z to away in on this one.
Gen Z Clay and Buckland out there or parents of
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