September 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and emotionally resonant conclusion to a week dominated by the tragic assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. This hour focuses on the aftermath of the arrest of the alleged assassin, the cultural and media response, and the broader implications for American discourse, free speech, and political polarization.
The hosts begin by discussing President Donald Trump’s reaction to the arrest, including his call for the death penalty and his praise for Charlie Kirk’s legacy. They highlight the role of the assassin’s father—a law enforcement veteran—in convincing his son to turn himself in, emphasizing the emotional complexity of the situation. The conversation then shifts to the media’s response, particularly a rare and striking public statement from Comcast, the parent company of MSNBC, acknowledging the tragedy and calling for unity and respectful dialogue. Clay and Buck analyze the significance of this corporate apology, suggesting it may reflect internal shame over the network’s increasingly radical tone and poor public perception.
Throughout the hour, the show explores the toxic influence of far-left ideology, particularly within media and academia. Listeners call in to share personal stories, including one from a woman whose daughter attends a North Carolina college where staff allegedly promote anti-parent and anti-American rhetoric. Another caller, a conservative Black man, expresses frustration over the celebratory reaction to Kirk’s death among some in his community, highlighting the deep divisions and misinformation surrounding conservative voices.
Clay and Buck also address the broader cultural decay, including the normalization of political violence and the erosion of civil discourse. They draw comparisons to the reaction following Rush Limbaugh’s death, noting that while both men were vilified by the Left, the assassination of Charlie Kirk represents a new and dangerous escalation. The hosts argue that the hatred directed at Kirk and Limbaugh is a testament to their impact and the righteousness of their causes.
The hour closes with heartfelt reflections on the importance of family, gratitude, and living with intention. Clay and Buck urge listeners to hug their loved ones, make meaningful connections, and appreciate the time they have. They express deep appreciation for the overwhelming support from their audience, noting that this week brought the largest listener response in the show’s history.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck begins. Now,
thank you everybody for being here with us. And as
we know, the big story today is the capture of
Charlie Kirk's assassin. This has been an all consuming story
for us here since we first learned the you know,
the horrific initial report about what had happened to our friend.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And at least at this point.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We can say that, yes, it is technically the alleged assassin,
and he is entitled to a trial and a court
of law and has rights and all of that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But he turned himself in and it all fits. I mean,
this is this is the.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Guy, and in fact, his dad really I think, convinced
him to turn himself in, which is quite a situation
for how all of that turned out. But we now
at least have the individual and custody, and I think
that there can be a dual track approach here, clayub
(00:56):
On the one hand, people can grieve and and begin
to move toward healing to whatever degree that's possible. I mean,
for those of us who are just deeply affected by this,
it's one thing to understand what happened here and or
to process what happened here. For Charlie's family, I can
only just pray for them, and you know, our hearts
(01:19):
just go out to them. The whole thing has been
so unbelievably painful and obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Such an egregious evil.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
But we do move forward to the degree that we
can here with the case and with the prosecution which
will be coming up. Donald Trump here said.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He just straight up said that. Well, I'll let you
hear it from the President this morning. This is cut
to talking about his belief as to where this trial
is going play it.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I hope it's going to be found guilty, I would imagine,
and I hope he gets to death penalty.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
What he did.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Charlie Kirk was the finest person that he didn't deserve this.
He worked so hard and so well.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Everybody liked him. I've been watching.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Even the left is having a hard time. They fired
this guy Dowed from MS DNC, who is a terrible guy,
a terrible human being, but they fired him. I hear
they're firing other people.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And you know, we're talking.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
About radical left now they're a little bit, but radical
left networks and cable channels, horrible channels like MS. I
always go at DNC because it's you know, somehow affiliated
with the Democrat National Committee. So you know, it's a
little statement you make. MSNBC, but NBC, ABC, CBS, they're
all terrible, absolutely terrible and unfair. But even they have
(02:32):
been giving it sort of like this can't be allowed
to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, you touched on something here, Clay. I.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This has been my feeling for a while, but this
whole incident has been a reminder of it. It is
not really that I disagree with The New York Times
and ABC News and I have no respect for these places. Yeah,
I do not respect them as were the opponents on
the battlefield of ideas. I do not think that they
have an alternative point of view that is valid in
the conversation. I have no respect for the entities that
(03:01):
we're trying to make. It seem like, you know, the
big problem here is how the right was reacting to it.
All the things that we have been talking about. They
show you who they are over and over again, and
we know who they are.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
This is interesting, Buck, I don't know if you've seen
this yet. This just came down in the last ten
minutes during our commercial break. Comcast is the parent company
of MSNBC, and I think a lot of you probably
know that the Comcast Cable Company, they just published this.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
A message from Brian Roberts.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Mike Cavanaugh, and Mark Lazarus, that is, the three guys
that run Comcast. And this was just sent to every
Comcast employee. It's now been released publicly, the tragic loss
of I'm just gonna read it and then I want
to get your reaction, Buck, And I do think a
lot of people have been saying, Okay, what happens now?
(03:55):
How did things get better? I don't remember them doing
something like this before, which is what you said, Buck.
I think it's well said. Rachel Maddow never sits and
directly addresses the camera, and I'm using Rachel Maddow. She's
the highest rated host on MSNBC and says, hey, violence
is never the answer. Any of you that hear any
of my commentary and think I'm going to go kill
(04:16):
somebody on the other side, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I don't want you to watch. We said that really clear.
It's not hard for us to do.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Hey, if you're going to go try to kill somebody
over politics, we don't want you as a part of
this audience. Period, it's unacceptable. Okay, so I think we're
pretty clear on that. But here is the MSNBC. The
tragic loss of Charlie Kirk, a thirty one year old father, husband,
and advocate for open debate whose faith was important to him,
(04:42):
reminds us of the fragility of life and the urgent
need for unity in our nation.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Our hearts are.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Heavy, as his passing leaves a grieving family and a
country grappling with the vision there's no place for violence
or hate in our society. You may have seen that
MSNBC he recently ended its association with a contributor who
made an unacceptable and insensitive comment about this horrific event.
That coverage was at odds with fostering civil dialogue and
(05:11):
being willing to listen to the points of view of
those who have differing opinions. We should be able to
disagree robustly and passionately, but ultimately with respect. We need
to do better. Charlie Kirk believed that quote when people
stop talking, really bad stuff starts. Regardless of whether you
agreed with his political views, his words and actions underscore
(05:35):
the urgency to maintain a respectful exchange of ideas a
principle we must champion. We believe in the power of
communication to bring us together. Today that belief feels more
vital than ever. Something essential has fractured in our public discourse,
and as a company that values the power of information,
we have a responsibility to help mend it. As employees,
(05:57):
we ask you to embody our values in your work.
In communities, we should engage with respect, listen, and treat
people with kindness. Okay, now you can roll your eyes
at some of that. Let me ask you this, buck,
You've been doing this longer than me. Can you ever
remember a public apology from MSNBC for anything?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, I've not ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That is that is a first, I will say.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Okay, so this is from the business side, the guys
who basically run the company. To me, what this respect
this reflects is I think they're ashamed of what MSNBC
has become. I think the money that MSNBC is making
is not that significant.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
In the larger corporate arena.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
In other words, Comcast makes way more money from way
other like that Comcast owns, for instance, the Universal Studios
theme parks. I think I guarantee you they make billions
of more dollars off of getting you to go to
the Harry Potter Wizarding World than they do by putting
on somebody who says maybe it was a celebratory shot
that ended up killing Charlie Kirk. I think these three
(07:11):
guys that wrote this letter, I think this is them
basically saying we are ashamed of the product that we
are putting out. Now, if that is true, and I
just shared this letter on my social media account, they
need to change the way.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I was going to say this.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
To say, like, well, I feel so bad, but.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
This is also this is where a lot of these
companies will put out a statement to give themselves some
cover for the continuation of what they've been doing all along.
I have to say, I think we saw that because
we were talking to all of you about maybe now
there will be more corporate ee, if you will, more
corporate style advertisement on conservative in conservative media. Right you
(07:58):
watch MSNBC, you will see on those in those commercials.
I mean you will see Mercedes Benz. I mean you
will see name global brands, uh, you know, Pfizer. You
will see these advertisements.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And and yet there's always this quote brand safety concern
that they they which is just a all that is
is the Libs that run Madison Avenue discriminating against conservative
points of view, but coming up with this, uh, this
big leaf of why they're really doing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It, because they're not.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's not like they wouldn't get a return in terms
of advertising by going onto huge platforms like this one
and many conservative podcasts, uh and and on other shows.
But it's just that they want to continue to control
the financial ecosystem, to control.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The ideological ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So a lot of those companies Clay have back door
are now in the wait and see.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, I think I think we can ride this
one out. You know, Trump is focused on other things.
Comcast putting out that statement is the first of its
kind that I have ever seen. But I can tell
you that in the past Comcast has made very clear
decisions that have privileged far left points of view, especially
in the new sphere. Well, that has been it's mantra
for a long time. So does it really change anything now,
(09:10):
I don't know, but there is embarrassment, and there should
be embarrassment at the way that the left wing ecosystem
has reacted to something as horrific and monstrous as what
we saw with the assassination of Charlie this week. There
is something that anybody with eyes to see is aware. Now,
(09:33):
Oh there's a problem the left. The Democrats have a
real problem.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
This is different.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Shame is important. I think we should bring back shame
in many respects. Shame is often why people make the
choices that they do. Do you want to be publicly shamed?
Most people do, not, the cynic in me, says Buck.
I wonder if they've got a big merger planned and
they know they're going to need FCC approval from Trump
(10:03):
in some way, antitrust approval, all those things. I do
think though, that some of these executives actually agree with
a lot of what Charlie Kirk says.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
You know this, Buck, I don't want to put anybody
on blast.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
There are a lot of left wing media execs who
agree with everything we say on this program, and I
think they're a little bit ashamed of how crazy the
left has become. And I think every day we add
more people out there who are reasonable, rational in say, hey,
America is a pretty good place and we should try
(10:39):
to make it better. And I wonder if this was
the breaking point where Comcast watched its own MSNBC coverage,
and I'm cynical enough to recognize that money dictates much
of business conversation and discourse. But MSNBC doesn't make very
much money, and so largely owning MSNBC is a status
(11:04):
play for companies. Is it the case that among educated
so called media elites there's actually a shame from them
over the reaction that they have seen. Again, these are
business side people. I'm not talking about the committed left
wing ideologues out there. I'm talking about the people who
(11:28):
actually run business. Could they be somewhat ashamed of the
product that they're putting out there? Because again, MSNBC is
largely to them, a prestige play. It's not a money play.
Only Fans used to make a lot of money, all right,
OnlyFans is not a prestige play. But it's money, so
corporate will defend it because they make so much money
(11:49):
about it. MSNBC is a prestige play. And are they
now becoming embarrassed and ashamed of the content that they're
putting out to say nothing of the rating clearly reflect
that an audience is not responding to it. Otherwise, which
is your point? On Mourning Joe, which I think is
a good one. That guy throws his finger up and
sees which way the wind is blowing better than anybody
(12:10):
in media. I don't think you're wrong about him saying, Hey,
I'm going to save the Democrat Party. I'm going to
run for president. I think it's a really good take
by you. But Morning Joe, you're the watcher. But the
clips that I see now somewhat reasonable there.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I sometimes sometimes, yes, No, they they have started to
play more and more. Remember, if you're going to move
toward the center, you don't want to lurch. You want
to do it in little movements, little furtive movements. You know,
you don't want it to be that obvious that you're
just going with the wind. And I think that they've
been doing that over there. But this has been I
(12:48):
think a very clarifying week about who in the media.
I mean, anybody who reacted to what happened to our
friend Charlie with anything other than the most level and
soul crushing revulsion is not someone that any person of decency, kindness, courage,
(13:09):
intellectual honesty should listen to spend any time watching or
have anything to do with as a consumer of their content.
You are poisoning your soul by spending any time listening
to people who can't even figure out what side of
this issue to be on it is. It is a
total binary. You either recognize the horror of what was
(13:31):
done to our friend Charlie, or you are somebody who
should not be not only should not be listened to
or watched by others as someone that has a worthwhile
perspective on events and on the world. It's somebody who
needs deep work themselves as a human being. And you
(13:51):
just you've seen it all over the place. It couldn't
be more clear. And I would just say this to Clay,
it's horrible. And the way they react did to Trump.
But as I said, Trump was okay. So it's hard to,
you know, to line these things up as Charlie wasn't okay,
and we all were sitting here praying to God that
(14:13):
he would be, and that they couldn't turn around in
the left and say.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We we disagree.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But this is a father, this was a this was
a son, this was a husband, and he you know,
there was no justification for this at all. It was
the worst kind of evil. Anyone who couldn't figure that
out in the in the instance or you know in
the moments that this this happened, is someone who is
who is morally defective and there are a lot of
(14:41):
them that are getting paychecks to write, to speak to
think and they all vote Democrat.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And that's where we are, and we just need to
understand that is the situation.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
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the last several years, violent act after violent act, and
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Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, we're
gonna close the show with your reactions. A lot of
you want to hop in and dive into a variety
of different topics. Give me the absolute latest. Uh here
on the show, Kelly and Minnesota. Kelly, what you got
for us?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Yeah, I'm actually not in Minnesota. I'm actually in Rolling,
North Carolina. But so I think a lot of our
this problem is so my husband is Mark Cortman's brother,
and so Melissa was his sister in law. So we're
still reeling from their death. And so Charlie when he died,
(16:58):
you know, that really hit close to home because it's like,
what is this going to stop? So my daughter goes
to a well known college close to home here in
North Carolina. So she is in different clubs and she
invites me over to attend a lot of these like
dance recitles, stuff like that where parents are not invited.
(17:18):
So if parents knew what the staff, how they talk
about us parents when they're not around, they would pass out.
Like they teach these kids about racism and how racist
we are, and you know, it's horrible how not to
listen to your parents, how you need to carve out
(17:40):
your own way. I mean, I'm about died when I
first heard this. I'm white, my daughter's agents.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean, it's horrible.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Thank you for the call. I think there is a
lot of toxic toxicity in the educational system back no doubt.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
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(18:56):
to Clay and Buck. Let's take a whole bunch of
of calls and talkbacks here as we go off into
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
This is like our our our.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Sit down to be with each other and and just
deal with this together, this situation this week. Remember we
were even before this horrible assassination of Charlie Kirk, the
country was reeling from the footage of of Irena Zerutzka
brutally murdered. So it's been a really and that footage,
the full footage of that came out. I mean, it
(19:27):
has been a really tough week. And so if you're
feeling that, I'm sure almost. I mean, I'm sure all
of you are. You're You're not alone at all. We're
all just trying to deal with this and and and
push through and and say prayers and hold loved ones
close and keep keep moving because that's all we can do.
(19:48):
Keep moving, keep moving forward, stay in the fight. Let's
see we have the who are the callers currently? Guys,
because we've got so many of these things coming in,
I K Clay, Do you see who's up right now
on the lines?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Do we have we got a bunch of talkbacks. Let's
say some of these talkbacks? Ee, what you got for us?
Speaker 8 (20:05):
My name is Joe. I'm from Mississippi. I'm a truck
driver Buck. I wanted to come in on what you said.
I think death is too good for this young man.
I think he needs to go to Gimo and I
think that's where it needs to be. I don't think
he needs to die I think he needs to live
miserable life for what he did to us.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, we can get into a whole death penalty. I
appreciate your perspective, and a lot of people will share
that perspective. I think a lot of people will share
my perspective, which is that there's ever a case for
a death penalty, this would be this would be very high.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
On the list.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And this gets into some deep philosophical Should the state
be involved in killing anybody?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's one part of this.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Why should the taxpayer have to spend It'll be hundreds
of thousands, maybe millions of dollars to support this individual healthcare, food,
and everything else for the next he's twenty to twenty
two years old, it could be a lot for eighty years.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And also the expense of getting someone to the point
of being executed. Not only does it take a decade
or more, probably maybe twenty years in order to work
its way through the entire criminal justice system, but it
still might not happen.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
So that's the challenge.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
John by the Way, Goose Creek, South Carolina News Radio
ninety four point three.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
JJ, I am super angry right now, like just epically
just disgusted with I'm a black man, and all I
see is blacks going all over place praising and celebrating
and putting down this man for being assassinated when they
don't even have a clue what he said as a
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black man. What am I supposed to do as a
conservative black man? How am I supposed to do it?
I wash my hands of them.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Look, we start off the show by saying, I have
a family member who posted on Facebook that he was
glad that Charlie Kirk was murdered. I think that, unfortunately,
we've all had our eyes opened to how awful many
of the people that surround us can be.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
When it comes to this.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
What I would say is the advice that I give
you all the time, and this is honestly something that
Charlie has to do. Explain why you believe that this
person is awful. Most of the time. Occasionally you'll see
me do this on social media, so people say, oh,
Klay Travis, you're racist or homophobic or transphobic or whatever else,
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and I'll just say, Okay, I've been doing media twenty years.
Please share what I have done that is any of
those things in your mind. They never can I think
a lot of people on the left they want to
brand us as controversial. You read anything that's been written
about me Buck for twenty years. I'm always controversial and
(23:07):
I you count. Look, I understand that there are controversial opinions.
I don't actually think I have very many. And it's
certainly not the number one adjective that I would choose
to describe me.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean, I have heard your hate speech about pistachio
ice cream more than once.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
To be fair, Well, this is why radio is a
great for him, because we have the luxury of talking
to this audience all over the country every day and
over time, for better or worse. It's impossible to be
an actor and do radio. You reveal your inner soul
in your essence for good or ill and uh. And
(23:43):
that is why I think it's so hard to attack
people who are on radio, because people are like, well,
I listen to them for three hours every day, Like
that's not fair. I mean, you can disagree, but my
point on that would be for that caller, I actually
think pushing back and saying with people that you know, hey,
why do you think that? And maybe share something that
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you like that that person said, and say Hey, I
think you'd actually agree with him here if you listened.
I think that's helpful, just a fun radio And I've
I've had a few people come up by the way
here I'm in I'm in Las Vegas, and I've had
a few people come up and say, you know, love
the show, which is always always so nice. They're they're visiting, right,
I mean they're not.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think their native Las Vegas, Las Vegans, los
Las Vegans.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
What do we what do we call.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
The Las Vegas s e ends. That's a tough word too.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I think it's Las Vegans, I would assume.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
But like I heard Spencer Cox today say Utahns and
that's a pretty tough word to say.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, yeah, not he doesn't flow Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
In where I am flows full Floridian where you are,
that's a relatively easy when it flows.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So but you see these individuals and it's funny though,
because people who don't. There are people they listen on
talk radio and many of them listen to Rush and
they were Rush babies and so this this is uh
the audio water in which they have been swimming for
decades in many cases. But it's funny to me when
people say, oh wow, you know, if they've heard us
for the first time or if they're very recent. I've
(25:05):
had people say so who writes? Like who writes all
the stuff you guys say, which I always find that
to be the highest compliment. I'm like, you think we're
reading this, you think you think someone's telling us what
to say. I was like, Clay and I sit down,
We basically for about sixty seconds before we go in
the air, top story, top story, Okay, anything else, okay,
boom go, and then it is just you were watching.
(25:27):
It's like, you know, because we read in all morning
and we're reading the same stories, we're reading the same
data and information, and we're texting back and.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Forth to share that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But the actual formation of the show is about sixty
seconds of you good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, Clay's holding up his notepad, which, by the way,
I don't know what language that is. I don't think
it's English, but it's something he's got.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Are you're writing in cyrillic? Are you some kind of
a Russian agent? What is that? I this is?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I mean, for those of you watching on YouTube right now,
I don't think there's anything particularly controversial or not supposed
to be public. On this notepad, I sit with a
yellow legal pad. I write down the live reads, the
advertisements that we have to do in the segment that
we have to do it, and then like four or
five things that I think are significant for the day,
just to remind myself, Hey, hit this, make sure we
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touch on that.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
So, yeah, there is no teleprompter. You know, this is
not television. We're not putting on makeup. God knows if
you watch us on video, there isn't some high wire
act other than just trying to sit down for three
hours and be as honest with all of you as
we possibly can be. Greg and Colorado, what you got
for us?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Yeah, I just had a couple points. You know. I
know lots of us do no liberals, and we work
with them every day and we see the hate that
at least half of them are spreading. They're glorifying and
celebrating the depth of a beautiful person and just because
of his view and basically if they are celebrating his death,
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they would do the same thing with ours. I mean,
they would celebrate us our death. They would wish death
upon us because we have the same views. And then
one more quick point, when you see their posts online,
I put two I was trying to message you, guys.
I put them on your Facebook page and a message.
If you see them posting their glorification and celebrating of
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his death, you bring that to people's attention. I had
one there's a lady who was saying she was glad
that he's dead because he supported Trump and he was
a fascist. And then she said the president is next
and we need to spread those.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, there's a lot of that out there.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And I would say, because some of you have also
been emailing us, and I want to always be clear
when we ask you for emails and talkbacks, we're reading
all of it throughout the show, and that's one of
the ways that we can keep a real close pulse
on what's going on with you. We don't we can't
get to all of them on the air, obvious, but
it is something that we're constantly seeing and reading. And
(28:06):
even if so, when you send in a talkback, we
get the transcript of it, and Clay and I see
all of the transcripts, and if you send us an email,
obviously we read and see all of your emails. So
don't think that because we don't read on the air,
you're not being heard in a sense. And obviously we
get to as many of the live calls as we
can too, that's a little different because that has to
be live and on the show. I would say this though,
(28:26):
because we've gotten some emails Clay where people say, well,
you know, this isn't the Charlie situation isn't surprising to them,
meaning you know, the left's reaction to it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Because of how some people reacted when Rush past.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, and here's how I would just yes, that isn't
that that I totally see that observation. And for so
many of us two who have had I mean, I
had a family member die of you know, someone I
was very close to dive cancer, and it's it's so
painful and it's just such a tragic and human thing
(29:02):
that really all of us are going to know some
of the guys of cancer. So for someone not to
have some sympathy or a lot of sympathy, but you
at least some sympathy for Rush Limbaugh as a human being,
shows you how deprave their soul is or.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Lack of a soul that they have very similar with Charlie.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But I would say this Rush got to be Rush,
and he got you know, he got to do He
got to be the greatest on radio of all time.
He got to live into his into his phase of
life where he could look back on all that tremendous accomplishment.
Something that's particularly particularly tragic about this, as Charlie was
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thirty one years old, than just getting going. You know,
Rush had Rush had saved the country perhaps, right, I
mean you look back, look at what Rush did. He
at least had the time to do it. And it
wasn't an assassin's bullet. It was cancer. Tragic but different.
But the response to all of you who are write again, yes,
of course there were psychos out there who were celebrating
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Rush Limbaugh a husband, a great American, a great boss,
a great person. They were, and it just shows I
can tell you this, Clayton or I have ever celebrated
the death of any American, uh, you know, in any
way like this, and never would And you all know
that because you listen to us every.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Day and you know how we are, you know how
we think, and you are the same way.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
This is why I was saying we are are the
people listen to us on radio. Clay, you know how
you say about SEC football. I feel that way about everyan.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I know you do too. Everyone listens to.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Us on radio, they're good people because you're choosing to
spend time surrounded by good and decent and true thoughts.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I told my boys, I hate to have to say this.
If something happens to me, don't go on social media. Yeah,
I mean, I think that you know, face to face conversations,
listen to the people that are important in your life.
And your boy's gonna get older. You're iefully going to
(31:00):
have multiple kids, Buck at some point you're gonna have
to sit down with them. And I've had to do
this for years, especially with the rise of social media.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Say, hey, who do you think knows Dad better?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
People getting on social media and talking about me or
you who have lived in a house with me your
whole life. I think it's very illuminating for kids out
there in that scenario. Judge people by what you see
them do and how you know them. Don't judge people
by what other people who don't know them at all say, right,
(31:31):
And I think that's unfortunate aspect of social media.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I would I would add Clay that in the case
of Charlie Kirk and also in the case of Rush Limbaugh,
that the Satanic would dance on their graves is actually
one of the clearest symbols indicators of the good that
they stood for, the righteousness that they were fighting for,
(31:57):
the impact that they had. That the war first among
us would celebrate them being gone is proof of how
important they were in the fight, how much they stood
on the front lines, how much they changed lives, how
much they saved lives, how much they saved this republic.
And so there is definitely crossover there as well.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Sometimes the people who hate you actually show to your
point just how important you were.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Oh, it's a badge of honor. I mean, the worst,
most psychotic, most destructive people in America hated Rush Limbaugh,
just like they hated Charlie Kirk. It's the truth, though,
the absolute worst people.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Amen, we come back. Will close up the week. But
I want to tell you I wasn't even right about
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into the weekend, I bet it's almost one hundred percent
of this audience that is going to watch a football game,
(32:59):
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the next several days. I'm headed up to Knoxville, by
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In last segment of the week, let me just say this,
I hope that we have done.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
A good job of.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Trying to heal and emotionally grapple with what I think
is one of the most challenging weeks that this country
has seen, and certainly this show has seen for a
very very long time. And we appreciate both Buck and
myself the opportunity to share with you, and sometimes we
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got emotional because it is live radio and we're dads,
and we're in the same arena and sphere very often
that Charlie Kirk is in and it has been immensely
gratifying for us to have the opportunity to talk with
all of you, and I hope that we have made
your week a little bit better and a little bit
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more of a of a incredibly difficult week. I hope
we have lessened the load for that week at least
a little bit, and that is what we are going
to continue to do, hopefully for days and weeks and
months and years to come with all of you. But
I know, Buck, I've been very gratified by It's been
(35:26):
hard to keep up with everything. I mean, I think
Producer Ali said, this is the largest response that we
have ever received in the history of the show. And
there have been a lot of things that have gone on,
I mean the elections. This is the week where we
have gotten the most been hard. I would say ninety
nine point nine percent of them. That things that I
have seen have made me very grateful that we have
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the opportunity to be a part of the family that
we are in on this show. So thank you, guys.
I hope we have helped you just a little bit,
I would say, Buck, and I bet you would ach.
Hug your kids, call mom and dad if you have
not called mom and dad, if you don't have kids,
make sure that you take the moment at some point
this weekend to be grateful for the world around you
(36:13):
that you have created friends and family and don't take
them for granted. I think this week has been a lesson.
I know Charlie knew that, but none of us know
when the last opportunity to call or hug or kiss
people that we love is going to be. Don't take
that for granted.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Every day is a gift. Every day you have, you
don't know how many it's left. So to Clay's point,
hug your loved ones, spend some time with them, Go
take a walk together this weekend. Make sure you say
the things that you know you should say and you
want to say, and don't leave anything unsaid.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Have a great weekend, everybody. We return to this on Monday.
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck begins. Now,
thank you everybody for being here with us. And as
we know, the big story today is the capture of
Charlie Kirk's assassin. This has been an all consuming story
for us here since we first learned the you know,
the horrific initial report about what had happened to our friend.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And at least at this point.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We can say that, yes, it is technically the alleged assassin,
and he is entitled to a trial and a court
of law and has rights and all of that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But he turned himself in and it all fits. I mean,
this is this is the.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Guy, and in fact, his dad really I think, convinced
him to turn himself in, which is quite a situation
for how all of that turned out. But we now
at least have the individual and custody, and I think
that there can be a dual track approach here, clayub
(00:56):
On the one hand, people can grieve and and begin
to move toward healing to whatever degree that's possible. I mean,
for those of us who are just deeply affected by this,
it's one thing to understand what happened here and or
to process what happened here. For Charlie's family, I can
only just pray for them, and you know, our hearts
(01:19):
just go out to them. The whole thing has been
so unbelievably painful and obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Such an egregious evil.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
But we do move forward to the degree that we
can here with the case and with the prosecution which
will be coming up. Donald Trump here said.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He just straight up said that. Well, I'll let you
hear it from the President this morning. This is cut
to talking about his belief as to where this trial
is going play it.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I hope it's going to be found guilty, I would imagine,
and I hope he gets to death penalty.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
What he did.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Charlie Kirk was the finest person that he didn't deserve this.
He worked so hard and so well.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Everybody liked him. I've been watching.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Even the left is having a hard time. They fired
this guy Dowed from MS DNC, who is a terrible guy,
a terrible human being, but they fired him. I hear
they're firing other people.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And you know, we're talking.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
About radical left now they're a little bit, but radical
left networks and cable channels, horrible channels like MS. I
always go at DNC because it's you know, somehow affiliated
with the Democrat National Committee. So you know, it's a
little statement you make. MSNBC, but NBC, ABC, CBS, they're
all terrible, absolutely terrible and unfair. But even they have
(02:32):
been giving it sort of like this can't be allowed
to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, you touched on something here, Clay. I.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This has been my feeling for a while, but this
whole incident has been a reminder of it. It is
not really that I disagree with The New York Times
and ABC News and I have no respect for these places. Yeah,
I do not respect them as were the opponents on
the battlefield of ideas. I do not think that they
have an alternative point of view that is valid in
the conversation. I have no respect for the entities that
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we're trying to make. It seem like, you know, the
big problem here is how the right was reacting to it.
All the things that we have been talking about. They
show you who they are over and over again, and
we know who they are.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
This is interesting, Buck, I don't know if you've seen
this yet. This just came down in the last ten
minutes during our commercial break. Comcast is the parent company
of MSNBC, and I think a lot of you probably
know that the Comcast Cable Company, they just published this.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
A message from Brian Roberts.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Mike Cavanaugh, and Mark Lazarus, that is, the three guys
that run Comcast. And this was just sent to every
Comcast employee. It's now been released publicly, the tragic loss
of I'm just gonna read it and then I want
to get your reaction, Buck, And I do think a
lot of people have been saying, Okay, what happens now?
(03:55):
How did things get better? I don't remember them doing
something like this before, which is what you said, Buck.
I think it's well said. Rachel Maddow never sits and
directly addresses the camera, and I'm using Rachel Maddow. She's
the highest rated host on MSNBC and says, hey, violence
is never the answer. Any of you that hear any
of my commentary and think I'm going to go kill
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somebody on the other side, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I don't want you to watch. We said that really clear.
It's not hard for us to do.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Hey, if you're going to go try to kill somebody
over politics, we don't want you as a part of
this audience. Period, it's unacceptable. Okay, so I think we're
pretty clear on that. But here is the MSNBC. The
tragic loss of Charlie Kirk, a thirty one year old father, husband,
and advocate for open debate whose faith was important to him,
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reminds us of the fragility of life and the urgent
need for unity in our nation.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Our hearts are.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Heavy, as his passing leaves a grieving family and a
country grappling with the vision there's no place for violence
or hate in our society. You may have seen that
MSNBC he recently ended its association with a contributor who
made an unacceptable and insensitive comment about this horrific event.
That coverage was at odds with fostering civil dialogue and
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being willing to listen to the points of view of
those who have differing opinions. We should be able to
disagree robustly and passionately, but ultimately with respect. We need
to do better. Charlie Kirk believed that quote when people
stop talking, really bad stuff starts. Regardless of whether you
agreed with his political views, his words and actions underscore
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the urgency to maintain a respectful exchange of ideas a
principle we must champion. We believe in the power of
communication to bring us together. Today that belief feels more
vital than ever. Something essential has fractured in our public discourse,
and as a company that values the power of information,
we have a responsibility to help mend it. As employees,
(05:57):
we ask you to embody our values in your work.
In communities, we should engage with respect, listen, and treat
people with kindness. Okay, now you can roll your eyes
at some of that. Let me ask you this, buck,
You've been doing this longer than me. Can you ever
remember a public apology from MSNBC for anything?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, I've not ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That is that is a first, I will say.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Okay, so this is from the business side, the guys
who basically run the company. To me, what this respect
this reflects is I think they're ashamed of what MSNBC
has become. I think the money that MSNBC is making
is not that significant.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
In the larger corporate arena.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
In other words, Comcast makes way more money from way
other like that Comcast owns, for instance, the Universal Studios
theme parks. I think I guarantee you they make billions
of more dollars off of getting you to go to
the Harry Potter Wizarding World than they do by putting
on somebody who says maybe it was a celebratory shot
that ended up killing Charlie Kirk. I think these three
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guys that wrote this letter, I think this is them
basically saying we are ashamed of the product that we
are putting out. Now, if that is true, and I
just shared this letter on my social media account, they
need to change the way.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I was going to say this.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
To say, like, well, I feel so bad, but.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
This is also this is where a lot of these
companies will put out a statement to give themselves some
cover for the continuation of what they've been doing all along.
I have to say, I think we saw that because
we were talking to all of you about maybe now
there will be more corporate ee, if you will, more
corporate style advertisement on conservative in conservative media. Right you
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watch MSNBC, you will see on those in those commercials.
I mean you will see Mercedes Benz. I mean you
will see name global brands, uh, you know, Pfizer. You
will see these advertisements.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And and yet there's always this quote brand safety concern
that they they which is just a all that is
is the Libs that run Madison Avenue discriminating against conservative
points of view, but coming up with this, uh, this
big leaf of why they're really doing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It, because they're not.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's not like they wouldn't get a return in terms
of advertising by going onto huge platforms like this one
and many conservative podcasts, uh and and on other shows.
But it's just that they want to continue to control
the financial ecosystem, to control.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The ideological ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So a lot of those companies Clay have back door
are now in the wait and see.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, I think I think we can ride this
one out. You know, Trump is focused on other things.
Comcast putting out that statement is the first of its
kind that I have ever seen. But I can tell
you that in the past Comcast has made very clear
decisions that have privileged far left points of view, especially
in the new sphere. Well, that has been it's mantra
for a long time. So does it really change anything now,
(09:10):
I don't know, but there is embarrassment, and there should
be embarrassment at the way that the left wing ecosystem
has reacted to something as horrific and monstrous as what
we saw with the assassination of Charlie this week. There
is something that anybody with eyes to see is aware. Now,
(09:33):
Oh there's a problem the left. The Democrats have a
real problem.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
This is different.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Shame is important. I think we should bring back shame
in many respects. Shame is often why people make the
choices that they do. Do you want to be publicly shamed?
Most people do, not, the cynic in me, says Buck.
I wonder if they've got a big merger planned and
they know they're going to need FCC approval from Trump
(10:03):
in some way, antitrust approval, all those things. I do
think though, that some of these executives actually agree with
a lot of what Charlie Kirk says.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
You know this, Buck, I don't want to put anybody
on blast.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
There are a lot of left wing media execs who
agree with everything we say on this program, and I
think they're a little bit ashamed of how crazy the
left has become. And I think every day we add
more people out there who are reasonable, rational in say, hey,
America is a pretty good place and we should try
(10:39):
to make it better. And I wonder if this was
the breaking point where Comcast watched its own MSNBC coverage,
and I'm cynical enough to recognize that money dictates much
of business conversation and discourse. But MSNBC doesn't make very
much money, and so largely owning MSNBC is a status
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play for companies. Is it the case that among educated
so called media elites there's actually a shame from them
over the reaction that they have seen. Again, these are
business side people. I'm not talking about the committed left
wing ideologues out there. I'm talking about the people who
(11:28):
actually run business. Could they be somewhat ashamed of the
product that they're putting out there? Because again, MSNBC is
largely to them, a prestige play. It's not a money play.
Only Fans used to make a lot of money, all right,
OnlyFans is not a prestige play. But it's money, so
corporate will defend it because they make so much money
(11:49):
about it. MSNBC is a prestige play. And are they
now becoming embarrassed and ashamed of the content that they're
putting out to say nothing of the rating clearly reflect
that an audience is not responding to it. Otherwise, which
is your point? On Mourning Joe, which I think is
a good one. That guy throws his finger up and
sees which way the wind is blowing better than anybody
(12:10):
in media. I don't think you're wrong about him saying, Hey,
I'm going to save the Democrat Party. I'm going to
run for president. I think it's a really good take
by you. But Morning Joe, you're the watcher. But the
clips that I see now somewhat reasonable there.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I sometimes sometimes, yes, No, they they have started to
play more and more. Remember, if you're going to move
toward the center, you don't want to lurch. You want
to do it in little movements, little furtive movements. You know,
you don't want it to be that obvious that you're
just going with the wind. And I think that they've
been doing that over there. But this has been I
(12:48):
think a very clarifying week about who in the media.
I mean, anybody who reacted to what happened to our
friend Charlie with anything other than the most level and
soul crushing revulsion is not someone that any person of decency, kindness, courage,
(13:09):
intellectual honesty should listen to spend any time watching or
have anything to do with as a consumer of their content.
You are poisoning your soul by spending any time listening
to people who can't even figure out what side of
this issue to be on it is. It is a
total binary. You either recognize the horror of what was
(13:31):
done to our friend Charlie, or you are somebody who
should not be not only should not be listened to
or watched by others as someone that has a worthwhile
perspective on events and on the world. It's somebody who
needs deep work themselves as a human being. And you
(13:51):
just you've seen it all over the place. It couldn't
be more clear. And I would just say this to Clay,
it's horrible. And the way they react did to Trump.
But as I said, Trump was okay. So it's hard to,
you know, to line these things up as Charlie wasn't okay,
and we all were sitting here praying to God that
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he would be, and that they couldn't turn around in
the left and say.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We we disagree.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But this is a father, this was a this was
a son, this was a husband, and he you know,
there was no justification for this at all. It was
the worst kind of evil. Anyone who couldn't figure that
out in the in the instance or you know in
the moments that this this happened, is someone who is
who is morally defective and there are a lot of
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them that are getting paychecks to write, to speak to
think and they all vote Democrat.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And that's where we are, and we just need to
understand that is the situation.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
We'll take some more of your reactions in the final
forty some odd minutes of the show this week. A
lot to dive into still, and I want to tell
you we've been talking about violence way too much over
the last several years, violent act after violent act, and
in many ways, it feels like that started with October
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Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, we're
gonna close the show with your reactions. A lot of
you want to hop in and dive into a variety
of different topics. Give me the absolute latest. Uh here
on the show, Kelly and Minnesota. Kelly, what you got
for us?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Yeah, I'm actually not in Minnesota. I'm actually in Rolling,
North Carolina. But so I think a lot of our
this problem is so my husband is Mark Cortman's brother,
and so Melissa was his sister in law. So we're
still reeling from their death. And so Charlie when he died,
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you know, that really hit close to home because it's like,
what is this going to stop? So my daughter goes
to a well known college close to home here in
North Carolina. So she is in different clubs and she
invites me over to attend a lot of these like
dance recitles, stuff like that where parents are not invited.
(17:18):
So if parents knew what the staff, how they talk
about us parents when they're not around, they would pass out.
Like they teach these kids about racism and how racist
we are, and you know, it's horrible how not to
listen to your parents, how you need to carve out
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your own way. I mean, I'm about died when I
first heard this. I'm white, my daughter's agents.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean, it's horrible.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Thank you for the call. I think there is a
lot of toxic toxicity in the educational system back no doubt.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
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to Clay and Buck. Let's take a whole bunch of
of calls and talkbacks here as we go off into
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
This is like our our our.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Sit down to be with each other and and just
deal with this together, this situation this week. Remember we
were even before this horrible assassination of Charlie Kirk, the
country was reeling from the footage of of Irena Zerutzka
brutally murdered. So it's been a really and that footage,
the full footage of that came out. I mean, it
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has been a really tough week. And so if you're
feeling that, I'm sure almost. I mean, I'm sure all
of you are. You're You're not alone at all. We're
all just trying to deal with this and and and
push through and and say prayers and hold loved ones
close and keep keep moving because that's all we can do.
(19:48):
Keep moving, keep moving forward, stay in the fight. Let's
see we have the who are the callers currently? Guys,
because we've got so many of these things coming in,
I K Clay, Do you see who's up right now
on the lines?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Do we have we got a bunch of talkbacks. Let's
say some of these talkbacks? Ee, what you got for us?
Speaker 8 (20:05):
My name is Joe. I'm from Mississippi. I'm a truck
driver Buck. I wanted to come in on what you said.
I think death is too good for this young man.
I think he needs to go to Gimo and I
think that's where it needs to be. I don't think
he needs to die I think he needs to live
miserable life for what he did to us.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, we can get into a whole death penalty. I
appreciate your perspective, and a lot of people will share
that perspective. I think a lot of people will share
my perspective, which is that there's ever a case for
a death penalty, this would be this would be very high.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
On the list.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And this gets into some deep philosophical Should the state
be involved in killing anybody?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's one part of this.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Why should the taxpayer have to spend It'll be hundreds
of thousands, maybe millions of dollars to support this individual healthcare, food,
and everything else for the next he's twenty to twenty
two years old, it could be a lot for eighty years.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And also the expense of getting someone to the point
of being executed. Not only does it take a decade
or more, probably maybe twenty years in order to work
its way through the entire criminal justice system, but it
still might not happen.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
So that's the challenge.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
John by the Way, Goose Creek, South Carolina News Radio
ninety four point three.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
JJ, I am super angry right now, like just epically
just disgusted with I'm a black man, and all I
see is blacks going all over place praising and celebrating
and putting down this man for being assassinated when they
don't even have a clue what he said as a
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black man. What am I supposed to do as a
conservative black man? How am I supposed to do it?
I wash my hands of them.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Look, we start off the show by saying, I have
a family member who posted on Facebook that he was
glad that Charlie Kirk was murdered. I think that, unfortunately,
we've all had our eyes opened to how awful many
of the people that surround us can be.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
When it comes to this.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
What I would say is the advice that I give
you all the time, and this is honestly something that
Charlie has to do. Explain why you believe that this
person is awful. Most of the time. Occasionally you'll see
me do this on social media, so people say, oh,
Klay Travis, you're racist or homophobic or transphobic or whatever else,
(22:45):
and I'll just say, Okay, I've been doing media twenty years.
Please share what I have done that is any of
those things in your mind. They never can I think
a lot of people on the left they want to
brand us as controversial. You read anything that's been written
about me Buck for twenty years. I'm always controversial and
(23:07):
I you count. Look, I understand that there are controversial opinions.
I don't actually think I have very many. And it's
certainly not the number one adjective that I would choose
to describe me.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean, I have heard your hate speech about pistachio
ice cream more than once.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
To be fair, Well, this is why radio is a
great for him, because we have the luxury of talking
to this audience all over the country every day and
over time, for better or worse. It's impossible to be
an actor and do radio. You reveal your inner soul
in your essence for good or ill and uh. And
(23:43):
that is why I think it's so hard to attack
people who are on radio, because people are like, well,
I listen to them for three hours every day, Like
that's not fair. I mean, you can disagree, but my
point on that would be for that caller, I actually
think pushing back and saying with people that you know, hey,
why do you think that? And maybe share something that
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you like that that person said, and say Hey, I
think you'd actually agree with him here if you listened.
I think that's helpful, just a fun radio And I've
I've had a few people come up by the way
here I'm in I'm in Las Vegas, and I've had
a few people come up and say, you know, love
the show, which is always always so nice. They're they're visiting, right,
I mean they're not.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think their native Las Vegas, Las Vegans, los
Las Vegans.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
What do we what do we call.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
The Las Vegas s e ends. That's a tough word too.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I think it's Las Vegans, I would assume.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
But like I heard Spencer Cox today say Utahns and
that's a pretty tough word to say.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, yeah, not he doesn't flow Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
In where I am flows full Floridian where you are,
that's a relatively easy when it flows.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So but you see these individuals and it's funny though,
because people who don't. There are people they listen on
talk radio and many of them listen to Rush and
they were Rush babies and so this this is uh
the audio water in which they have been swimming for
decades in many cases. But it's funny to me when
people say, oh wow, you know, if they've heard us
for the first time or if they're very recent. I've
(25:05):
had people say so who writes? Like who writes all
the stuff you guys say, which I always find that
to be the highest compliment. I'm like, you think we're
reading this, you think you think someone's telling us what
to say. I was like, Clay and I sit down,
We basically for about sixty seconds before we go in
the air, top story, top story, Okay, anything else, okay,
boom go, and then it is just you were watching.
(25:27):
It's like, you know, because we read in all morning
and we're reading the same stories, we're reading the same
data and information, and we're texting back and.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Forth to share that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But the actual formation of the show is about sixty
seconds of you good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, Clay's holding up his notepad, which, by the way,
I don't know what language that is. I don't think
it's English, but it's something he's got.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Are you're writing in cyrillic? Are you some kind of
a Russian agent? What is that? I this is?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I mean, for those of you watching on YouTube right now,
I don't think there's anything particularly controversial or not supposed
to be public. On this notepad, I sit with a
yellow legal pad. I write down the live reads, the
advertisements that we have to do in the segment that
we have to do it, and then like four or
five things that I think are significant for the day,
just to remind myself, Hey, hit this, make sure we
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touch on that.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
So, yeah, there is no teleprompter. You know, this is
not television. We're not putting on makeup. God knows if
you watch us on video, there isn't some high wire
act other than just trying to sit down for three
hours and be as honest with all of you as
we possibly can be. Greg and Colorado, what you got
for us?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Yeah, I just had a couple points. You know. I
know lots of us do no liberals, and we work
with them every day and we see the hate that
at least half of them are spreading. They're glorifying and
celebrating the depth of a beautiful person and just because
of his view and basically if they are celebrating his death,
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they would do the same thing with ours. I mean,
they would celebrate us our death. They would wish death
upon us because we have the same views. And then
one more quick point, when you see their posts online,
I put two I was trying to message you, guys.
I put them on your Facebook page and a message.
If you see them posting their glorification and celebrating of
(27:22):
his death, you bring that to people's attention. I had
one there's a lady who was saying she was glad
that he's dead because he supported Trump and he was
a fascist. And then she said the president is next
and we need to spread those.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, there's a lot of that out there.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And I would say, because some of you have also
been emailing us, and I want to always be clear
when we ask you for emails and talkbacks, we're reading
all of it throughout the show, and that's one of
the ways that we can keep a real close pulse
on what's going on with you. We don't we can't
get to all of them on the air, obvious, but
it is something that we're constantly seeing and reading. And
(28:06):
even if so, when you send in a talkback, we
get the transcript of it, and Clay and I see
all of the transcripts, and if you send us an email,
obviously we read and see all of your emails. So
don't think that because we don't read on the air,
you're not being heard in a sense. And obviously we
get to as many of the live calls as we
can too, that's a little different because that has to
be live and on the show. I would say this though,
(28:26):
because we've gotten some emails Clay where people say, well,
you know, this isn't the Charlie situation isn't surprising to them,
meaning you know, the left's reaction to it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Because of how some people reacted when Rush past.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, and here's how I would just yes, that isn't
that that I totally see that observation. And for so
many of us two who have had I mean, I
had a family member die of you know, someone I
was very close to dive cancer, and it's it's so
painful and it's just such a tragic and human thing
(29:02):
that really all of us are going to know some
of the guys of cancer. So for someone not to
have some sympathy or a lot of sympathy, but you
at least some sympathy for Rush Limbaugh as a human being,
shows you how deprave their soul is or.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Lack of a soul that they have very similar with Charlie.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But I would say this Rush got to be Rush,
and he got you know, he got to do He
got to be the greatest on radio of all time.
He got to live into his into his phase of
life where he could look back on all that tremendous accomplishment.
Something that's particularly particularly tragic about this, as Charlie was
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thirty one years old, than just getting going. You know,
Rush had Rush had saved the country perhaps, right, I
mean you look back, look at what Rush did. He
at least had the time to do it. And it
wasn't an assassin's bullet. It was cancer. Tragic but different.
But the response to all of you who are write again, yes,
of course there were psychos out there who were celebrating
(30:01):
Rush Limbaugh a husband, a great American, a great boss,
a great person. They were, and it just shows I
can tell you this, Clayton or I have ever celebrated
the death of any American, uh, you know, in any
way like this, and never would And you all know
that because you listen to us every.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Day and you know how we are, you know how
we think, and you are the same way.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
This is why I was saying we are are the
people listen to us on radio. Clay, you know how
you say about SEC football. I feel that way about everyan.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I know you do too. Everyone listens to.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Us on radio, they're good people because you're choosing to
spend time surrounded by good and decent and true thoughts.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I told my boys, I hate to have to say this.
If something happens to me, don't go on social media. Yeah,
I mean, I think that you know, face to face conversations,
listen to the people that are important in your life.
And your boy's gonna get older. You're iefully going to
(31:00):
have multiple kids, Buck at some point you're gonna have
to sit down with them. And I've had to do
this for years, especially with the rise of social media.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Say, hey, who do you think knows Dad better?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
People getting on social media and talking about me or
you who have lived in a house with me your
whole life. I think it's very illuminating for kids out
there in that scenario. Judge people by what you see
them do and how you know them. Don't judge people
by what other people who don't know them at all say, right,
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And I think that's unfortunate aspect of social media.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I would I would add Clay that in the case
of Charlie Kirk and also in the case of Rush Limbaugh,
that the Satanic would dance on their graves is actually
one of the clearest symbols indicators of the good that
they stood for, the righteousness that they were fighting for,
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the impact that they had. That the war first among
us would celebrate them being gone is proof of how
important they were in the fight, how much they stood
on the front lines, how much they changed lives, how
much they saved lives, how much they saved this republic.
And so there is definitely crossover there as well.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Sometimes the people who hate you actually show to your
point just how important you were.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Oh, it's a badge of honor. I mean, the worst,
most psychotic, most destructive people in America hated Rush Limbaugh,
just like they hated Charlie Kirk. It's the truth, though,
the absolute worst people.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Amen, we come back. Will close up the week. But
I want to tell you I wasn't even right about
this earlier in the show. We're on track for a
five to one win. If you like me, are going
to be ready to watch football and just kind of
veg out a little bit by the time you get
into the weekend, I bet it's almost one hundred percent
of this audience that is going to watch a football game,
(32:59):
either high school, college, or pro at some point over
the next several days. I'm headed up to Knoxville, by
the way for the Georgia Tennessee game. I'm gonna be
doing big noon for Fox interviewing Tennessee football coach Josh Hipel.
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In last segment of the week, let me just say this,
I hope that we have done.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
A good job of.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Trying to heal and emotionally grapple with what I think
is one of the most challenging weeks that this country
has seen, and certainly this show has seen for a
very very long time. And we appreciate both Buck and
myself the opportunity to share with you, and sometimes we
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got emotional because it is live radio and we're dads,
and we're in the same arena and sphere very often
that Charlie Kirk is in and it has been immensely
gratifying for us to have the opportunity to talk with
all of you, and I hope that we have made
your week a little bit better and a little bit
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more of a of a incredibly difficult week. I hope
we have lessened the load for that week at least
a little bit, and that is what we are going
to continue to do, hopefully for days and weeks and
months and years to come with all of you. But
I know, Buck, I've been very gratified by It's been
(35:26):
hard to keep up with everything. I mean, I think
Producer Ali said, this is the largest response that we
have ever received in the history of the show. And
there have been a lot of things that have gone on,
I mean the elections. This is the week where we
have gotten the most been hard. I would say ninety
nine point nine percent of them. That things that I
have seen have made me very grateful that we have
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the opportunity to be a part of the family that
we are in on this show. So thank you, guys.
I hope we have helped you just a little bit,
I would say, Buck, and I bet you would ach.
Hug your kids, call mom and dad if you have
not called mom and dad, if you don't have kids,
make sure that you take the moment at some point
this weekend to be grateful for the world around you
(36:13):
that you have created friends and family and don't take
them for granted. I think this week has been a lesson.
I know Charlie knew that, but none of us know
when the last opportunity to call or hug or kiss
people that we love is going to be. Don't take
that for granted.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Every day is a gift. Every day you have, you
don't know how many it's left. So to Clay's point,
hug your loved ones, spend some time with them, Go
take a walk together this weekend. Make sure you say
the things that you know you should say and you
want to say, and don't leave anything unsaid.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Have a great weekend, everybody. We return to this on Monday.
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