September 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and emotionally charged segment featuring an exclusive interview with Eric Trump, son of current President Donald Trump. The hour centers around the tragic assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, with Eric Trump sharing his personal reaction and reflecting on Kirk’s legacy and impact on youth political engagement. The discussion highlights the cultural and political ramifications of Kirk’s death, emphasizing the resilience of the conservative movement and the importance of preserving free speech and American values. Eric Trump also discusses his new book, Under Siege: My Family’s Fight to Save Our Nation, detailing the relentless legal and media attacks on the Trump family and organization. He recounts the unprecedented number of subpoenas, social media censorship, and political persecution they faced, framing it as a broader assault on conservative voices and constitutional freedoms. The conversation underscores President Trump’s historic political comeback, culminating in a state dinner with the King and Queen of England—an event hailed as one of the greatest honors of his life and a symbol of renewed global respect for American leadership. The hour also covers the indefinite suspension of late-night host Jimmy Kimmel, with commentary suggesting declining ratings and controversial content as contributing factors. The hosts and callers explore the double standards in media and entertainment, contrasting the outrage over Kimmel’s suspension with the muted response to Kirk’s assassination. Additional topics include the erosion of Western civilization under the influence of woke ideology, the role of religion in shaping moral behavior, and the importance of defending foundational American principles. President Trump’s remarks at the state dinner are highlighted for their emphasis on Anglo-American unity, liberty, and shared heritage. Listeners are encouraged to support Turning Point USA and the Tunnel to Towers Foundation, with Eric Trump pledging a portion of his book proceeds to continue Charlie Kirk’s mission. The hour concludes with reflections on the cultural shift in business and media, the hypocrisy of corporate elites, and the enduring strength of the Trump movement.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome in everybody to the second hour of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He is, of course, one of a President Trump's sons,
a guy I've known since we were both in grade school,
and he's doing amazing things running a Trump organization.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
As you all know.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He's also got a new book out, Under Siege, My
Family's Fight to Save our Nation, and a portion of
the proceeds we'll go to Turning Point USA to help
continue Charlie Kirk's mission. Eric, thanks for making the time
for us.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's great to be back on talk to us.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
If you would for a second here about the because
we have to dive into this news of the day.
I think it hit everybody like I don't know if
it was that much of.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
A surprise given what a jerk he's been lately.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But what's your take on the Kimmel indefinite suspension?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Listen, the guy has been a jerk, he hasn't been funny,
but honestly, I think the network uses a way to
get him out based on, you know, bad ratings. I mean,
look at what ratings are on on ABC and NBC
and CBS right now, you know, relative to call some
of the other shows, some of even the cable shows.
Right Look at my wife, Look at Laura, I mean,
her show is getting two point six, you know, two
point eight million people, you know, on a Saturday night,
(01:17):
And you look at CNN during the week, and if
they can pull five, six, seven hundred thousand people, it's like,
you know, they're they're doing great for themselves, right, So
it clearly shows that the content is not working. People
are no longer mused. It's not funny to make fun
of thirty one year old kids who are getting assassinated
on any soil, certainly not US soil, especially somebody who
is as beloved as our friend Charlie. And and I'm
(01:38):
glad they got rid of this jerk.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Eric.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Where were you when you found out about what happened
to Charlie Kirk last week? And what was your immediate reaction?
Because you've got young kids, like he does and like
Buck does, and my kids are getting a little bit older,
but you travel around, you do a lot of public events,
so does your wife. What was your reaction when you
saw that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know, I'm the guys I hate stayed with like
deja vuddah Butler, right, I mean I walked into my office,
my my sister came running up to me. Alard grabbed me.
She goes, you know, Charlie shot and it looks like
Charlie's dead. I mean it was right after and obviously
at that point it was making its round on social media,
and you know, I you know, you look at the
movement of the body and and and you knew it
was devastating. And you know me, I've competed in all
(02:20):
the shooting sports my entire life. You know, you could
you could tell it was a high power rifle. I
could tell instantly that was high power rifle just by
the sound of the shot. And and and my heart sank.
I mean, you know, Charlie was a friend. I've been
on the stage with him a hundred times, did you
guys have you know We've we've done a lot of
events together over the last you know, ten years, And
and you know I've stood on that same stage a
thousand times myself, you know, in swing states all across
(02:42):
the country. And then there there were times leading up
to elections where we're doing five six events, you know,
like that a day, you know, all over every victory office,
every factory, every you know, standing on top of John
Dear attractors with a bullhorn and and you know, I mean,
my heart sunk a young guy who created one of
the greatest political movie moments in this country, who changed
the entire youth vote in the United States. And you know,
(03:04):
they thought they could get rid of some guy's voice
by using a bullet to sponge somebody's life. And honestly,
when you look at you know, one point four million
people march across London, when you see pretorious South Africa
and marches in honor of Charlie, when you see churches
full all across the country, and the days that follow,
you know, they only cemented his legacy. They didn't expunge
his legacy. They cemented his legacy. And you know, and Charlie,
(03:28):
Charlie lives on. And you know, we can never leave
that stage, guys, I will never ever ever get off
that stage. And I think he was a great inspiration
for all.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well he is and certainly your father continues to be.
And that moment you mentioned Butler where fortunately a very
different outcome there for that day with respect to your father,
and that he was able to pump his fist in
the air and tell everyone to continue to fight. Eric,
probably the most iconic single moment I think in my
(03:57):
life in American politics.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I don't know of anything that would.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Really compete with that. That the power of that visual
and I know in your book under Siege, my family's
fight to save our nation, you get into a lot
of this. One of the one of the good things, though,
is that this is the greatest political comeback and and
really the most inspiring I think story of overcoming a
(04:21):
lot of the forces of darkness in this country just
by telling your family's story and telling about what you
your brother, your sister, you know, your dad, what you've
all been through.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah. So, guys, I started working on this three years ago,
and and you know, I was a guy. I ran
the whole company, so everything outside of Washington, DC and
the family really saw on my shoulders. And you know,
all of a sudden, it was impeachment one, it was
impeachment two. It was the Russia hoax. Is the dirty dossier?
I was getting called from the FBI. I hear you
have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower, you know,
communicating directly with the Kremlin. It was obviously a total sham.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Then they sent every da, every age after us, whether
it's New York or Washington, d C. Or Fulton County, George.
You know the stories of all of those. I got
one hundred and twelve subpoenas. I became the most subpoena
person in American history, you know, by these radicals. Then
they took us off of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram.
They took my father off the ballot in Colorado, and
then and then in Maine. You know, they came after us,
(05:16):
They came after our employees. They raided mar Lago, they
raided our homes. I mean, it was non stop siege.
They wanted to bankrupt us, they wanted to see us gone,
They wanted to take away our voice. They wanted the
dozens of gag orders we all had, and these these
nonsense cases, all of which we won, and the vast
majority of them fell on my shoulders because again they
came after the company based on the fact that my
(05:37):
father had constitutional protections. And you know, and we beat
these guys. We beat them back at every single instance,
and and so I started writing this book under Siege
because that's what they wanted to do. And then, you know,
I had my two kids on my lap when when
Butler came around, and you know, watched my father's head
almost get blown off while having a you know, five
and seven year old sitting on my lap, four and
six year old actually at that time sitting on my lap,
(05:58):
I mean in high definition TV, and you know, it's
you know, and then obviously I saw them trying to
do it again, and you know, with palm at the
golf course, and then I saw what happened to Charlie.
And that's what they wanted, guys. They wanted our voices gone,
they wanted our movement gone. They wanted my father gone.
They wanted me off that stage, they wanted Don off
that stage. They sure as hell don't like you guys,
(06:19):
for everything you stand for and how principal the two
of you guys have been. And that's what Underseage is about.
It's about all the behind the scenes stories of how
they tried to just decimate us, the corruption of government,
and frankly, and thank god, how we won, how we
triumphed in something that was such an impossible, you know,
I mean endless fight that went on.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
For one thing I want to ask Eric, is Clay
told me this? From me?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I refuse to read the Snake Tapper book because I
just felt like it was trying. Now he's the arsonist
who's done calling the fire department, right, It just felt
too But one interesting revelation from the book, and Clay
read the whole book.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So I appreciate that I did it so everybody. I
didn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He jumped on that hand grenade. For the rest of us,
we appreciated that one. But I uh that that Biden
was behind closed doors constantly with glee in his eyes,
talking about how your dad was going to go to prison.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Does that surprise you at all?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Like, did you think that there was still some sense
of fair play in that Biden White House but then
when that came out or or did you know that
that was that? That really the whole time they wanted
to lock your dad in a cell.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Guys, I was the one when they rated mar Laga.
Who's shouting on TV? And I you think the FBI
raided mar A Lago without the explicit permission of the
President of the United States. Like, give me a freaking break.
And by the way, the other interesting thing about Jay Capper,
Laura was on a show. She was on c She goes, listen,
he everybody realized that this guy doesn't have his mental faculties.
And he starts screaming at her on the show, how
(07:49):
are you the person to diagnose, you know, his his
co abilities. Don't you think you're offending children with stutters
around the country? And Laura, I mean, she would not
put up with the nonsense. She fought right back and
then sure enough, you know, you look at the title
and you can maybe remind me of the exact title.
But it was like, you know, a Biden's you know,
a cognitive decline. And to cover up by the mainstream
(08:09):
media sitting there saying the irony of this, when when
sixth have to apologize, like, you know, the irony of
this when you're sitting there, you know, yelling at Laura
Trump for saying that we all realize everybody in this
country realizes that the guy's not exactly the sharpest tool
in the.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
He said Laura was making fun of his stutter. Yeah, yeah,
which is just insane.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, and it screamed at her for for quote unquote
diagnosing Biden and not having a PhD. I mean, give me,
give me a break. And then he writes the book
about how you know the media misled the world, and
I mean, the great irony of this. But you know
that's why, honestly, that's example nine and twenty of why
people detest the mainstream media in this country and and
why honestly independent voices like yours, you know, are moving
(08:53):
the needle, and why no one watches CBS, and why
you know people like Jimmy Kimmeill are getting fired.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And and you know, so on uh under Siege is
the book My Family's Fight to Save our Nation. We're
talking with Eric Trump. You are a business guy. You're
traveling all over the world doing deals. And one place
that I think is emblematic of how much the culture
has shifted is suddenly everybody wants to play on your
family's fantastic golf courses. Again, I know that that's a
(09:21):
good thing, but does a part of you just think
when these deals get done, man, so many of these
business people are completing total cowards. Your dad was right
in sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty. They try to cancel him,
they kick him off, and then he wins the popular vote.
He's now standing, you know, doing toast with the King
and Queen of England last night, and all these business
(09:44):
guys suddenly, you know, they show back up and they're.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Like, oh, we always loved you. Oh let's go with you.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I mean, this is is business one of the most
shameless places on the planet in general, because you guys
are grinding for years and now everybody loves you.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But it's got to be a part of he's got
to be like, give me a break.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I got canceled guys by every bank in the country
for doing nothing wrong, only because I chose to wear
a Make America Great Again hat. I'm talking about golf
courses in upstate New York. Things that had absolutely nothing
to do with politics. Things, you know, entities that have
been around for twenty five years that had been perfect customers,
and they turned us off. Capital One, the worst of
all of them, turned us off like we were dogs.
(10:22):
I mean, they canceled three hundred accounts in the middle
of the night, and then all of a sudden, every
single day I get, you know, calls from the heads
of the and you would know the names of every
single one of them. They are the bankers on Wall
Street High. Eric, you know, we really missed the relationship
and we'd really love to get back together. I mean,
if you're waiting to come over my house, I'd love
to take you to dinner. I'd love you to treat it.
You know, it'd be great if we could try and
rekindle the relationship. And I'm sitting there, guys, and I
(10:44):
have very little tolerance for this nonsense, you know, especially now,
I'm over trying to, you know, hide feelings, and you know,
I'm not into the pageantry of this stuff. And you're
sitting there saying you dirty. Can't stay it on the radio, guys.
But you know, like I remember and I will not forget.
And you know it is it is, It is shameless,
listen Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg's come around in a big way. And
I actually legitimately believe he loves my father and loves
(11:05):
our family, and I have a nice relationship with him now.
But he was sitting behind me at inauguration. Was the
first time I've ever met him. And I'm saying, they're saying,
you're sitting behind me an inauguration yet in twenty twenty,
you spent four hundred million dollars against this. You put
four hundred and by the way, you go on Facebook
to try and find a polling location, you know, or
a voting location, a ballot, you know, and guess what,
(11:26):
every single one would come up for Biden and not
a single one would come up for Trump. It's like,
you know, they rig the algorithms. They put countly right,
they turned down everybody's dials, and now all of a sudden,
everybody's smiling and happy. And you know, I'm not saying
that people can't change their mind, and I think he
legitimately did and is legitimately on the team now. But
it's you know, sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, we really appreciate the story and also the fight
that your family has put forward for the country, and
it is it is a phenomenal first year in this administration.
We're not just saying this because he's your dad, not
just sitting seric because I think I met you when
you were ten years old or something for the first time.
But this is the truth. It has been an incredible
(12:08):
first year and what your dad has come through is
the most amazing political battle in my lifetime. I think
in any of our lifetime, I don't think anything would
come close to it. And the fact that you're giving
a portion of the proceeds of the book to Turning
Point to continue on with Charlie's legacy, I think just
speaks to how much you care about well, your friend Charlie,
(12:31):
his family, and also the mission that he left behind.
So the book is under siege, my families fight to
save our nation. Go get your copies. Eric, welcome anytime,
my friend. Please come back soon.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Thanks you guys.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's Eric Trump.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
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(14:15):
who just swung by and hung out with us. Obviously,
we have been talking a lot about the biggest news
story I would say out there, which is the Jimmy
Kimmel firing. In many ways, but there is much going
on across the pond. Although I believe President Trump has
now boarded to fly back. But they just had a
(14:38):
press conference and there were many different comments made there.
I don't think we've played any of these yet. Here
was President Trump on Charlie Kirk cut two.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Just last week, a great American, Charlie Kirk was haiteously
assassinated for speaking his mind. He was a great young man,
incredible few some people said he might be president some
day told him. I said, Charlie, I think you have
a good shot somedad being president. And he just wanted
to take care of youth. He loved youth. He was
(15:11):
I've never seen anybody relate to youth like Charlie, and
they related to him, and they're devastated. But I appreciate
the many British citizens who have offered their condolences.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And I think we were just talking with Eric, but
I was watching the footage of the State dinner.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know he talked about it.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But Trump going from every single social media company in
the country canceling him. You just heard of Eric Trump
saying big banks overnight canceling tons of their accounts and
basically saying we're not going to work with you to
the King and Queen of England giving him toasts at
a state dinner featuring hundreds of people in an opulent setting.
(15:56):
There the second state visit, which is almost unheard of.
It is really the greatest comeback in American political history
and one of the greatest comebacks in world politically.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I was gonna say this, this beats Napoleon coming back
after his first exile. And you know what I mean,
this is like, this is truly epic what Donald Trump
has pulled off.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And that's not in the generic usage of that term.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
A lot of people say, I mean, this is something
that future historians and just people looking at the history
of the of the era will think. This guy was
facing four criminal lawsuits and the entire corporate and social
media apparatus of America turned against him, and he won
(16:44):
a resounding victory and then became the toast of the
town and had an incredibly successful, obviously first year. I
think he's gonna an incredibly successful second term. Nobody would
believe it. In the screenplay, it would be it would
be considered too fanciful for Hollywood. Even if you said
a Democrat pulled this off, I think they would say,
no way that could happen.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
The books and movies written about the last five seven years,
the whole Trump era, are such that I wish I
could read them one hundred or two hundred years from now.
This is one of the things of being a history guy,
is you like to read about past moments. We're living
through moments that will be some of the most compelling
stories that have ever been told for generations.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
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Speaker 2 (17:26):
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ago and said that Donald Trump, in this running for
president for what would be his successful second term, would
take a bullet through the ear, be unphased and yell fight, fight,
fight into a microphone, people would have thought that you
were insane.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
That happened. That is our reality, everybody. It's incredible.
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Let's hit some of the news. Buck, by the way,
is on his way to Miami. He and his family
are traveling, so I've got you solo for the rest
of the show tomorrow. By the way, Buck will have
you solo because and I'm looking forward to this. I
am one of the keynotes for the Michigan Republican Party.
Our friend Tutor Dixon is obviously very involved in that.
(19:22):
She's part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. I'm
going to be up at mckinaw Island, Michigan for a
big event there that is one of their signature events
of the year, and obviously Michigan is one of the
biggest battlegrounds anywhere, but also the home state of my wife, Laura,
and we got engaged on mcinaw Island, so it's kind
(19:45):
of cool to go back twenty I'm doing the Math
of My Head twenty three years later and be doing
a keynote there at the at their event, which is
at the Grand Hotel, which is one of the great
hotels in a America, and I could barely afford a
hotel room there for one night when we got engaged
(20:06):
twenty three years ago. And now going back to help
keynote one of the big events for the Michigan Republican Party.
So very cool and I am looking forward to doing that,
and I imagine that some of you that are listening
right now will be a part of that event going
on there, which they do on an annual basis and
is a very cool is a very cool place to
(20:27):
be doing that event. If you've never been before, I
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still not know unless I had ended up married to
a girl from Michigan, and especially in the summer, but
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in the country. And in the summer, oh, I mean,
just absolutely spectacular up there. And you guys may remember
I did the show for a while from Traverse City
this summer, but so I'm excited to be back up there.
(21:11):
But that is where I'll be on Friday. Not very
easy to get in and out of that location, so
I'll be traveling during the show tomorrow. Let's dive in
to some of what happened at the State Dinner, and
then we'll spend more time talking about the biggest story
of the day and all the discussion surrounding it, which
is the Jimmy Kimmel. The Jimmy Kimmel effectively being suspended,
(21:31):
although I think it's going to end in a firing.
Here is last night's State dinner. Some of you probably
saw some of the video highlights yesterday afternoon evening saying
that we must continue to stand for the values and
people of the English speaking world. Cut twenty two. I
thought this was particularly well said by Trump.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Listen, the bond of kinship and identity between America and
the United Kingdom is priceless and eternal. It's irreplaceable and unbreakable.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
And we are as.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
A country, as you now, doing unbelievably well. We had
a very sick country one year ago and today I
believe were the hottest country anywhere in the world. In fact,
nobody's even questioning it. But we owe so much of
that to you and the footing that you gave us
when we started together. We've done more good for humanity
(22:26):
than any two countries in all of history.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Together.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
We must defend the exceptional heritage that makes us who
we are, and we must continue to stand for the
values and the people of the English speaking world. And
we do, indeed stand for that.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
A couple of more cuts from that event, the State Dinner.
Let me flip it over to the other side of
the pond. Here is King Charles giving a toast to
Trump and the First Lady. This happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Listen, President Missus Trump.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
The bond between our two nations is indeed a remarkable one.
Forged in the far of conflict, it has been fortified
through our shared endeavors and burnished by the deep affection
between our people. Tested time and again, it has borne
(23:20):
the weight of our common purpose and raised our ambition
for a better world. So in renewing our bond tonight,
we do so with unshakable trust in our friendship and
in our shared commitment to independence and liberty. Therefore, as
(23:41):
we celebrate this unparalleled partnership, allow me to propose a
toast to President Trump and the First Lady, and to
the health, prosperity, and happiness of the people of the
United States of America.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Is it unfair to get to have the British accent?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I feel like it adds multiple grade levels to what
it sounds like you're saying. In other words, if you're
a C level student and you have a British accent,
it makes you feel like you're an A level student.
If you're an A level student, it takes you into
the stratosphere of genius, all because of the way you
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sound while you talk. I don't know that anywhere else
likes the American accent. I don't think in England they're
listening to Trump and saying, you know what, this American accent,
it just sounds so good. The British accent really is
kind of an unfair advantage when it comes to argument
one more take twenty one. This is Trump again saying
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the state dinner is one of the highest honors of
his life.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Your maerjesty, Milani and I are deeply grateful to you
and Queen Camilla for your extraordinary graciousnessent to William and Kate.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Thank you so much. It's been so great being.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
With you today.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It's a singular privilege to be the first American president
welcomed here.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
And if you think about it, said, it's a lot of.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Presidents, and this was the second state visit, and that's
the first and maybe that's going to be the last time.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
I hope it is, actually.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
But this is truly one of the highest honors of
my life. Such respect for you and such respect for
your country.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't think we talk about it enough as a society.
I'd love that Trump said this is maybe the greatest
partnership in the history of the world. I think he's right,
and we are all in depths of gratitude for Western
civilization and what it has provided all of us around
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the world in terms of economic in terms of basic
human rights, in terms of all of the freedoms that
we in many ways take for granted. They're all rooted
in the exceptionalism of Western civilization, and much of so
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called woke collective culture is really just about tearing down
the fabric of Western civilization and arguing that it's rooted
in illegitimacy. And once you see that that is what's
going on, it becomes so important that all of us
stand up and speak stridently and forthrightly in favor of
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Western civilization and basic human rights around the world everywhere.
And that's why it was so dastardly. That's why it
was so pernicious when the New York Times decided, Hey,
we're going to redefine American history through the prism of
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slavery as opposed to the.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
America and Revolution.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Because they knew exactly what they were doing. If as
Nicole Hannah Jones, for instance, in the New York Times
decided they didn't say, Hey, America's founding happened in fourteen
ninety two. You know how, most people really don't talk
about that. And when I'm saying fourteen ninety two, obviously
I'm talking about the discovery of the New World, Columbus,
all of that, because from fourteen ninety two to sixteen
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nineteen there was no slavery in the colonies. There was
indentured servitude, but no slavery. So, for whatever the math
is on that, the first one hundred and forty years
of the New World there was no slavery, and then
there was slavery from sixteen nineteen to eighteen sixty three,
but only about eighty years of that was the American
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Republic allowing slavery. So they don't take fourteen ninety two
as the founding. They don't take seventeen seventy six, when
we declared independence and became an independent country as the founding.
They say sixteen nineteen is the founding of the United States,
because effectively that's the time that the first slaves from
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Africa arrived on United States shore. And if this is
really important, if they can define America as fundamentally rooted
in the illegitimacy of slavery, then they can tear down
the entire fabric of the country. It's all very calculated.
It's all based in story. How do we define the
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story of the United States? Is it one primarily defined
by triumph? Or is it one primarily defined by.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Evil and an awful exploitation.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
If it is awful and exploitative, then everything that is
built is rooted in a foundation of illegitimacy, and hence
can be swept away. The Constitution, the Bill of Rights,
the Declaration of Independence, none of it means anything. And
that's what they're actually after. And I think Trump gets it.
I know jd. Vance gets it at his essence and
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at his core, and all of you, if you haven't
really spent enough time thinking about it, spend more time
thinking about it. All of this is rooted in Western civilization,
and certainly Charlie Kirk got it. And in fact, if
you look at that big picture and if you contemplate it,
it's also rooted in religion in many ways. And even
(29:31):
if you are listening to me right now and you
are not religious, as I know, some of you are,
maybe even many of you. We all benefit from other
people who are religious because their attempt to live a
more honorable life benefits all of us. You send less
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you engage in violent behavior, yet less you think about
the larger context of your life as you're going to
be judged for it, which in general leads to better
life choices. And all of that is rooted in Western civilization,
which I do think Trump was right in that toast.
(30:13):
The United States and England have historically stood for more
than any countries in the world, at least in recent history. Now,
what does it say that many of these countries that
have basked in the legitimacy of Western civilization for a
very long time, Italy, England, Germany, France, many of these
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Western European countries are now turning their back on Western civilization.
We and this is kind of wild to think about,
have actually infected them with the woke virus, and it
has run rampant, I would argue in those countries even
more now than it has here, where I think Trump
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is acting in many ways as an inoculation against the
woke virus. It hasn't happened yet in Europe and in fact,
if you go back and look at the way that
the woke virus has spread all throughout Western Europe, they
blamed us for bringing it to them, and yet their
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countries may be more susceptible to it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Because they don't have a Donald Trump. Just think about it.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I was, you know, nerd style as I watched some
of that State dinner, thinking about the mutuality of impact
and how Western Europe certainly has created the republic that
we're fortunate enough to live in right now, and how
much smarter and better versed in history our founders were
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because they learned from all of recorded history the flaws
that prior governments had made when they tried to build
our own. And now this woke virus, which I like
to think that we have extinguished to a large degree
in this country, although there's still pockets that need to
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be attacked and inoculated against. It actually is running more
rampant in Europe right now than it even is here,
and I hope we can change that. We'll take some
of your calls. I want to dive into the Jimmy
kimmeill think a bit more buck Like I said on
the road, He'll have you tomorrow solo when I'm traveling
up to Michigan to be one of the keynote speakers
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We've got a lot of different people reacting from a
variety of different perspectives, as is often the case. Let's
play Kevin in New York City d D on the
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listener dial.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Let's listen to left cheers when Charlie Kirk loses his life,
but yet they are outraged when Jimmy Kimmel loses his show.
And that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
To know about them.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Despicable.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
A lot of people taking that perspective. I don't doubt
that at all. Here is Jana in Milwaukee. She's a
VP of HR. Watch out, make sure you're not breaking
any rules. Here's what she had to say.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
As a former VP of HR, I can absolutely tell
you that it's perfectly fine for an employer to fire
employee who's beliefs to not align with the beliefs of
the organization. I think it saw summed up welsowhere in
social media.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
The other day.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
If you believe others can be shot for their opinion,
don't be surprised when you get fired for yours.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
And we've got another here. Here is Gary Lakewood, California,
AM eleven fifty, the Patriot.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Here's what he has to say so far.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
I have never laughed so hard listening to your show
than I did earlier this week when Buck asked Clay
if he beats his polo shirts with a baseball bat
and then said the neck of his shirt was so
big even Fabio would blush.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
This is why you guys are the best.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
You cover the important topics with wisdom while simultaneously making
us all laugh as you talk throughout the day being
your authentic selves.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You guys are appreciated.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Thank you for that. I'm not gonna lie. I was
shook by that one.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Sometimes I know when my outfits are going to be criticized.
I thought I looked good in that polo and obviously
I can't be trusted to dress myself before the steven
a to bight.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I don't know that I've ever done this before.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I facetimed my wife standing in front of the mirror
and asked, am I allowed to wear this?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Or do I look like an imbecile?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And then I brought in my assistant, Katie was also
there with her at the house.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I was like, Katie, I need your verdict too.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And then when I got outside, I asked producer Ali
three different women, Hey, am I humiliating myself with what
I have chosen to wear. I don't think I can
be allowed to dress myself anymore. When we come back,
we'll take some more of your calls. We'll dive into
this question, free speech or not? With Jimmy Kimmel suspended
over his comments on ABC
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome in everybody to the second hour of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He is, of course, one of a President Trump's sons,
a guy I've known since we were both in grade school,
and he's doing amazing things running a Trump organization.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
As you all know.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He's also got a new book out, Under Siege, My
Family's Fight to Save our Nation, and a portion of
the proceeds we'll go to Turning Point USA to help
continue Charlie Kirk's mission. Eric, thanks for making the time
for us.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's great to be back on talk to us.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
If you would for a second here about the because
we have to dive into this news of the day.
I think it hit everybody like I don't know if
it was that much of.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
A surprise given what a jerk he's been lately.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But what's your take on the Kimmel indefinite suspension?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Listen, the guy has been a jerk, he hasn't been funny,
but honestly, I think the network uses a way to
get him out based on, you know, bad ratings. I mean,
look at what ratings are on on ABC and NBC
and CBS right now, you know, relative to call some
of the other shows, some of even the cable shows.
Right Look at my wife, Look at Laura, I mean,
her show is getting two point six, you know, two
point eight million people, you know, on a Saturday night,
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And you look at CNN during the week, and if
they can pull five, six, seven hundred thousand people, it's like,
you know, they're they're doing great for themselves, right, So
it clearly shows that the content is not working. People
are no longer mused. It's not funny to make fun
of thirty one year old kids who are getting assassinated
on any soil, certainly not US soil, especially somebody who
is as beloved as our friend Charlie. And and I'm
(01:38):
glad they got rid of this jerk.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Eric.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Where were you when you found out about what happened
to Charlie Kirk last week? And what was your immediate reaction?
Because you've got young kids, like he does and like
Buck does, and my kids are getting a little bit older,
but you travel around, you do a lot of public events,
so does your wife. What was your reaction when you
saw that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know, I'm the guys I hate stayed with like
deja vuddah Butler, right, I mean I walked into my office,
my my sister came running up to me. Alard grabbed me.
She goes, you know, Charlie shot and it looks like
Charlie's dead. I mean it was right after and obviously
at that point it was making its round on social media,
and you know, I you know, you look at the
movement of the body and and and you knew it
was devastating. And you know me, I've competed in all
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the shooting sports my entire life. You know, you could
you could tell it was a high power rifle. I
could tell instantly that was high power rifle just by
the sound of the shot. And and and my heart sank.
I mean, you know, Charlie was a friend. I've been
on the stage with him a hundred times, did you
guys have you know We've we've done a lot of
events together over the last you know, ten years, And
and you know I've stood on that same stage a
thousand times myself, you know, in swing states all across
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the country. And then there there were times leading up
to elections where we're doing five six events, you know,
like that a day, you know, all over every victory office,
every factory, every you know, standing on top of John
Dear attractors with a bullhorn and and you know, I mean,
my heart sunk a young guy who created one of
the greatest political movie moments in this country, who changed
the entire youth vote in the United States. And you know,
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they thought they could get rid of some guy's voice
by using a bullet to sponge somebody's life. And honestly,
when you look at you know, one point four million
people march across London, when you see pretorious South Africa
and marches in honor of Charlie, when you see churches
full all across the country, and the days that follow,
you know, they only cemented his legacy. They didn't expunge
his legacy. They cemented his legacy. And you know, and Charlie,
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Charlie lives on. And you know, we can never leave
that stage, guys, I will never ever ever get off
that stage. And I think he was a great inspiration
for all.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well he is and certainly your father continues to be.
And that moment you mentioned Butler where fortunately a very
different outcome there for that day with respect to your father,
and that he was able to pump his fist in
the air and tell everyone to continue to fight. Eric,
probably the most iconic single moment I think in my
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life in American politics.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I don't know of anything that would.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Really compete with that. That the power of that visual
and I know in your book under Siege, my family's
fight to save our nation, you get into a lot
of this. One of the one of the good things, though,
is that this is the greatest political comeback and and
really the most inspiring I think story of overcoming a
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lot of the forces of darkness in this country just
by telling your family's story and telling about what you
your brother, your sister, you know, your dad, what you've
all been through.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah. So, guys, I started working on this three years ago,
and and you know, I was a guy. I ran
the whole company, so everything outside of Washington, DC and
the family really saw on my shoulders. And you know,
all of a sudden, it was impeachment one, it was
impeachment two. It was the Russia hoax. Is the dirty dossier?
I was getting called from the FBI. I hear you
have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower, you know,
communicating directly with the Kremlin. It was obviously a total sham.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Then they sent every da, every age after us, whether
it's New York or Washington, d C. Or Fulton County, George.
You know the stories of all of those. I got
one hundred and twelve subpoenas. I became the most subpoena
person in American history, you know, by these radicals. Then
they took us off of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram.
They took my father off the ballot in Colorado, and
then and then in Maine. You know, they came after us,
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They came after our employees. They raided mar Lago, they
raided our homes. I mean, it was non stop siege.
They wanted to bankrupt us, they wanted to see us gone,
They wanted to take away our voice. They wanted the
dozens of gag orders we all had, and these these
nonsense cases, all of which we won, and the vast
majority of them fell on my shoulders because again they
came after the company based on the fact that my
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father had constitutional protections. And you know, and we beat
these guys. We beat them back at every single instance,
and and so I started writing this book under Siege
because that's what they wanted to do. And then, you know,
I had my two kids on my lap when when
Butler came around, and you know, watched my father's head
almost get blown off while having a you know, five
and seven year old sitting on my lap, four and
six year old actually at that time sitting on my lap,
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I mean in high definition TV, and you know, it's
you know, and then obviously I saw them trying to
do it again, and you know, with palm at the
golf course, and then I saw what happened to Charlie.
And that's what they wanted, guys. They wanted our voices gone,
they wanted our movement gone. They wanted my father gone.
They wanted me off that stage, they wanted Don off
that stage. They sure as hell don't like you guys,
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for everything you stand for and how principal the two
of you guys have been. And that's what Underseage is about.
It's about all the behind the scenes stories of how
they tried to just decimate us, the corruption of government,
and frankly, and thank god, how we won, how we
triumphed in something that was such an impossible, you know,
I mean endless fight that went on.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
For one thing I want to ask Eric, is Clay
told me this? From me?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I refuse to read the Snake Tapper book because I
just felt like it was trying. Now he's the arsonist
who's done calling the fire department, right, It just felt
too But one interesting revelation from the book, and Clay
read the whole book.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So I appreciate that I did it so everybody. I
didn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He jumped on that hand grenade. For the rest of us,
we appreciated that one. But I uh that that Biden
was behind closed doors constantly with glee in his eyes,
talking about how your dad was going to go to prison.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Does that surprise you at all?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Like, did you think that there was still some sense
of fair play in that Biden White House but then
when that came out or or did you know that
that was that? That really the whole time they wanted
to lock your dad in a cell.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Guys, I was the one when they rated mar Laga.
Who's shouting on TV? And I you think the FBI
raided mar A Lago without the explicit permission of the
President of the United States. Like, give me a freaking break.
And by the way, the other interesting thing about Jay Capper,
Laura was on a show. She was on c She goes, listen,
he everybody realized that this guy doesn't have his mental faculties.
And he starts screaming at her on the show, how
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are you the person to diagnose, you know, his his
co abilities. Don't you think you're offending children with stutters
around the country? And Laura, I mean, she would not
put up with the nonsense. She fought right back and
then sure enough, you know, you look at the title
and you can maybe remind me of the exact title.
But it was like, you know, a Biden's you know,
a cognitive decline. And to cover up by the mainstream
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media sitting there saying the irony of this, when when
sixth have to apologize, like, you know, the irony of
this when you're sitting there, you know, yelling at Laura
Trump for saying that we all realize everybody in this
country realizes that the guy's not exactly the sharpest tool
in the.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
He said Laura was making fun of his stutter. Yeah, yeah,
which is just insane.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, and it screamed at her for for quote unquote
diagnosing Biden and not having a PhD. I mean, give me,
give me a break. And then he writes the book
about how you know the media misled the world, and
I mean, the great irony of this. But you know
that's why, honestly, that's example nine and twenty of why
people detest the mainstream media in this country and and
why honestly independent voices like yours, you know, are moving
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the needle, and why no one watches CBS, and why
you know people like Jimmy Kimmeill are getting fired.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And and you know, so on uh under Siege is
the book My Family's Fight to Save our Nation. We're
talking with Eric Trump. You are a business guy. You're
traveling all over the world doing deals. And one place
that I think is emblematic of how much the culture
has shifted is suddenly everybody wants to play on your
family's fantastic golf courses. Again, I know that that's a
(09:21):
good thing, but does a part of you just think
when these deals get done, man, so many of these
business people are completing total cowards. Your dad was right
in sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty. They try to cancel him,
they kick him off, and then he wins the popular vote.
He's now standing, you know, doing toast with the King
and Queen of England last night, and all these business
(09:44):
guys suddenly, you know, they show back up and they're.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Like, oh, we always loved you. Oh let's go with you.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I mean, this is is business one of the most
shameless places on the planet in general, because you guys
are grinding for years and now everybody loves you.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But it's got to be a part of he's got
to be like, give me a break.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I got canceled guys by every bank in the country
for doing nothing wrong, only because I chose to wear
a Make America Great Again hat. I'm talking about golf
courses in upstate New York. Things that had absolutely nothing
to do with politics. Things, you know, entities that have
been around for twenty five years that had been perfect customers,
and they turned us off. Capital One, the worst of
all of them, turned us off like we were dogs.
(10:22):
I mean, they canceled three hundred accounts in the middle
of the night, and then all of a sudden, every
single day I get, you know, calls from the heads
of the and you would know the names of every
single one of them. They are the bankers on Wall
Street High. Eric, you know, we really missed the relationship
and we'd really love to get back together. I mean,
if you're waiting to come over my house, I'd love
to take you to dinner. I'd love you to treat it.
You know, it'd be great if we could try and
rekindle the relationship. And I'm sitting there, guys, and I
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have very little tolerance for this nonsense, you know, especially now,
I'm over trying to, you know, hide feelings, and you know,
I'm not into the pageantry of this stuff. And you're
sitting there saying you dirty. Can't stay it on the radio, guys.
But you know, like I remember and I will not forget.
And you know it is it is, It is shameless,
listen Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg's come around in a big way. And
I actually legitimately believe he loves my father and loves
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our family, and I have a nice relationship with him now.
But he was sitting behind me at inauguration. Was the
first time I've ever met him. And I'm saying, they're saying,
you're sitting behind me an inauguration yet in twenty twenty,
you spent four hundred million dollars against this. You put
four hundred and by the way, you go on Facebook
to try and find a polling location, you know, or
a voting location, a ballot, you know, and guess what,
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every single one would come up for Biden and not
a single one would come up for Trump. It's like,
you know, they rig the algorithms. They put countly right,
they turned down everybody's dials, and now all of a sudden,
everybody's smiling and happy. And you know, I'm not saying
that people can't change their mind, and I think he
legitimately did and is legitimately on the team now. But
it's you know, sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, we really appreciate the story and also the fight
that your family has put forward for the country, and
it is it is a phenomenal first year in this administration.
We're not just saying this because he's your dad, not
just sitting seric because I think I met you when
you were ten years old or something for the first time.
But this is the truth. It has been an incredible
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first year and what your dad has come through is
the most amazing political battle in my lifetime. I think
in any of our lifetime, I don't think anything would
come close to it. And the fact that you're giving
a portion of the proceeds of the book to Turning
Point to continue on with Charlie's legacy, I think just
speaks to how much you care about well, your friend Charlie,
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his family, and also the mission that he left behind.
So the book is under siege, my families fight to
save our nation. Go get your copies. Eric, welcome anytime,
my friend. Please come back soon.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Thanks you guys.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's Eric Trump.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Buck when we come back, will react to that a
little bit more. Price Picks. I'm actually going to make
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To You better have a seque pick for me today, though,
is all I'm telling.
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who just swung by and hung out with us. Obviously,
we have been talking a lot about the biggest news
story I would say out there, which is the Jimmy
Kimmel firing. In many ways, but there is much going
on across the pond. Although I believe President Trump has
now boarded to fly back. But they just had a
(14:38):
press conference and there were many different comments made there.
I don't think we've played any of these yet. Here
was President Trump on Charlie Kirk cut two.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Just last week, a great American, Charlie Kirk was haiteously
assassinated for speaking his mind. He was a great young man,
incredible few some people said he might be president some
day told him. I said, Charlie, I think you have
a good shot somedad being president. And he just wanted
to take care of youth. He loved youth. He was
(15:11):
I've never seen anybody relate to youth like Charlie, and
they related to him, and they're devastated. But I appreciate
the many British citizens who have offered their condolences.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And I think we were just talking with Eric, but
I was watching the footage of the State dinner.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know he talked about it.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But Trump going from every single social media company in
the country canceling him. You just heard of Eric Trump
saying big banks overnight canceling tons of their accounts and
basically saying we're not going to work with you to
the King and Queen of England giving him toasts at
a state dinner featuring hundreds of people in an opulent setting.
(15:56):
There the second state visit, which is almost unheard of.
It is really the greatest comeback in American political history
and one of the greatest comebacks in world politically.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I was gonna say this, this beats Napoleon coming back
after his first exile. And you know what I mean,
this is like, this is truly epic what Donald Trump
has pulled off.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And that's not in the generic usage of that term.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
A lot of people say, I mean, this is something
that future historians and just people looking at the history
of the of the era will think. This guy was
facing four criminal lawsuits and the entire corporate and social
media apparatus of America turned against him, and he won
(16:44):
a resounding victory and then became the toast of the
town and had an incredibly successful, obviously first year. I
think he's gonna an incredibly successful second term. Nobody would
believe it. In the screenplay, it would be it would
be considered too fanciful for Hollywood. Even if you said
a Democrat pulled this off, I think they would say,
no way that could happen.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
The books and movies written about the last five seven years,
the whole Trump era, are such that I wish I
could read them one hundred or two hundred years from now.
This is one of the things of being a history guy,
is you like to read about past moments. We're living
through moments that will be some of the most compelling
stories that have ever been told for generations.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
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Speaker 2 (17:26):
If you had walked up to a microphone ten years
ago and said that Donald Trump, in this running for
president for what would be his successful second term, would
take a bullet through the ear, be unphased and yell fight, fight,
fight into a microphone, people would have thought that you
were insane.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
That happened. That is our reality, everybody. It's incredible.
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Speaker 4 (19:00):
Let's hit some of the news. Buck, by the way,
is on his way to Miami. He and his family
are traveling, so I've got you solo for the rest
of the show tomorrow. By the way, Buck will have
you solo because and I'm looking forward to this. I
am one of the keynotes for the Michigan Republican Party.
Our friend Tutor Dixon is obviously very involved in that.
(19:22):
She's part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. I'm
going to be up at mckinaw Island, Michigan for a
big event there that is one of their signature events
of the year, and obviously Michigan is one of the
biggest battlegrounds anywhere, but also the home state of my wife, Laura,
and we got engaged on mcinaw Island, so it's kind
(19:45):
of cool to go back twenty I'm doing the Math
of My Head twenty three years later and be doing
a keynote there at the at their event, which is
at the Grand Hotel, which is one of the great
hotels in a America, and I could barely afford a
hotel room there for one night when we got engaged
(20:06):
twenty three years ago. And now going back to help
keynote one of the big events for the Michigan Republican Party.
So very cool and I am looking forward to doing that,
and I imagine that some of you that are listening
right now will be a part of that event going
on there, which they do on an annual basis and
is a very cool is a very cool place to
(20:27):
be doing that event. If you've never been before, I
would have no idea. I've said this before and people
always say, hey, shut up, you're giving away a secret.
I did not know how spectacular northern Michigan was, and
still not know unless I had ended up married to
a girl from Michigan, and especially in the summer, but
(20:50):
also in the fall. I don't love cold weather. So
some of you do love cold weather, but for basically
every time, but the winter one of the greatest places
in the country. And in the summer, oh, I mean,
just absolutely spectacular up there. And you guys may remember
I did the show for a while from Traverse City
this summer, but so I'm excited to be back up there.
(21:11):
But that is where I'll be on Friday. Not very
easy to get in and out of that location, so
I'll be traveling during the show tomorrow. Let's dive in
to some of what happened at the State Dinner, and
then we'll spend more time talking about the biggest story
of the day and all the discussion surrounding it, which
is the Jimmy Kimmel. The Jimmy Kimmel effectively being suspended,
(21:31):
although I think it's going to end in a firing.
Here is last night's State dinner. Some of you probably
saw some of the video highlights yesterday afternoon evening saying
that we must continue to stand for the values and
people of the English speaking world. Cut twenty two. I
thought this was particularly well said by Trump.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Listen, the bond of kinship and identity between America and
the United Kingdom is priceless and eternal. It's irreplaceable and unbreakable.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
And we are as.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
A country, as you now, doing unbelievably well. We had
a very sick country one year ago and today I
believe were the hottest country anywhere in the world. In fact,
nobody's even questioning it. But we owe so much of
that to you and the footing that you gave us
when we started together. We've done more good for humanity
(22:26):
than any two countries in all of history.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Together.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
We must defend the exceptional heritage that makes us who
we are, and we must continue to stand for the
values and the people of the English speaking world. And
we do, indeed stand for that.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
A couple of more cuts from that event, the State Dinner.
Let me flip it over to the other side of
the pond. Here is King Charles giving a toast to
Trump and the First Lady. This happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Listen, President Missus Trump.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
The bond between our two nations is indeed a remarkable one.
Forged in the far of conflict, it has been fortified
through our shared endeavors and burnished by the deep affection
between our people. Tested time and again, it has borne
(23:20):
the weight of our common purpose and raised our ambition
for a better world. So in renewing our bond tonight,
we do so with unshakable trust in our friendship and
in our shared commitment to independence and liberty. Therefore, as
(23:41):
we celebrate this unparalleled partnership, allow me to propose a
toast to President Trump and the First Lady, and to
the health, prosperity, and happiness of the people of the
United States of America.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Is it unfair to get to have the British accent?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I feel like it adds multiple grade levels to what
it sounds like you're saying. In other words, if you're
a C level student and you have a British accent,
it makes you feel like you're an A level student.
If you're an A level student, it takes you into
the stratosphere of genius, all because of the way you
(24:23):
sound while you talk. I don't know that anywhere else
likes the American accent. I don't think in England they're
listening to Trump and saying, you know what, this American accent,
it just sounds so good. The British accent really is
kind of an unfair advantage when it comes to argument
one more take twenty one. This is Trump again saying
(24:43):
the state dinner is one of the highest honors of
his life.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Your maerjesty, Milani and I are deeply grateful to you
and Queen Camilla for your extraordinary graciousnessent to William and Kate.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Thank you so much. It's been so great being.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
With you today.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It's a singular privilege to be the first American president
welcomed here.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
And if you think about it, said, it's a lot of.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Presidents, and this was the second state visit, and that's
the first and maybe that's going to be the last time.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
I hope it is, actually.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
But this is truly one of the highest honors of
my life. Such respect for you and such respect for
your country.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't think we talk about it enough as a society.
I'd love that Trump said this is maybe the greatest
partnership in the history of the world. I think he's right,
and we are all in depths of gratitude for Western
civilization and what it has provided all of us around
(25:53):
the world in terms of economic in terms of basic
human rights, in terms of all of the freedoms that
we in many ways take for granted. They're all rooted
in the exceptionalism of Western civilization, and much of so
(26:13):
called woke collective culture is really just about tearing down
the fabric of Western civilization and arguing that it's rooted
in illegitimacy. And once you see that that is what's
going on, it becomes so important that all of us
stand up and speak stridently and forthrightly in favor of
(26:37):
Western civilization and basic human rights around the world everywhere.
And that's why it was so dastardly. That's why it
was so pernicious when the New York Times decided, Hey,
we're going to redefine American history through the prism of
(26:57):
slavery as opposed to the.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
America and Revolution.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Because they knew exactly what they were doing. If as
Nicole Hannah Jones, for instance, in the New York Times
decided they didn't say, Hey, America's founding happened in fourteen
ninety two. You know how, most people really don't talk
about that. And when I'm saying fourteen ninety two, obviously
I'm talking about the discovery of the New World, Columbus,
all of that, because from fourteen ninety two to sixteen
(27:25):
nineteen there was no slavery in the colonies. There was
indentured servitude, but no slavery. So, for whatever the math
is on that, the first one hundred and forty years
of the New World there was no slavery, and then
there was slavery from sixteen nineteen to eighteen sixty three,
but only about eighty years of that was the American
(27:48):
Republic allowing slavery. So they don't take fourteen ninety two
as the founding. They don't take seventeen seventy six, when
we declared independence and became an independent country as the founding.
They say sixteen nineteen is the founding of the United States,
because effectively that's the time that the first slaves from
(28:09):
Africa arrived on United States shore. And if this is
really important, if they can define America as fundamentally rooted
in the illegitimacy of slavery, then they can tear down
the entire fabric of the country. It's all very calculated.
It's all based in story. How do we define the
(28:31):
story of the United States? Is it one primarily defined
by triumph? Or is it one primarily defined by.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Evil and an awful exploitation.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
If it is awful and exploitative, then everything that is
built is rooted in a foundation of illegitimacy, and hence
can be swept away. The Constitution, the Bill of Rights,
the Declaration of Independence, none of it means anything. And
that's what they're actually after. And I think Trump gets it.
I know jd. Vance gets it at his essence and
(29:08):
at his core, and all of you, if you haven't
really spent enough time thinking about it, spend more time
thinking about it. All of this is rooted in Western civilization,
and certainly Charlie Kirk got it. And in fact, if
you look at that big picture and if you contemplate it,
it's also rooted in religion in many ways. And even
(29:31):
if you are listening to me right now and you
are not religious, as I know, some of you are,
maybe even many of you. We all benefit from other
people who are religious because their attempt to live a
more honorable life benefits all of us. You send less
(29:51):
you engage in violent behavior, yet less you think about
the larger context of your life as you're going to
be judged for it, which in general leads to better
life choices. And all of that is rooted in Western civilization,
which I do think Trump was right in that toast.
(30:13):
The United States and England have historically stood for more
than any countries in the world, at least in recent history. Now,
what does it say that many of these countries that
have basked in the legitimacy of Western civilization for a
very long time, Italy, England, Germany, France, many of these
(30:35):
Western European countries are now turning their back on Western civilization.
We and this is kind of wild to think about,
have actually infected them with the woke virus, and it
has run rampant, I would argue in those countries even
more now than it has here, where I think Trump
(30:58):
is acting in many ways as an inoculation against the
woke virus. It hasn't happened yet in Europe and in fact,
if you go back and look at the way that
the woke virus has spread all throughout Western Europe, they
blamed us for bringing it to them, and yet their
(31:21):
countries may be more susceptible to it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Because they don't have a Donald Trump. Just think about it.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I was, you know, nerd style as I watched some
of that State dinner, thinking about the mutuality of impact
and how Western Europe certainly has created the republic that
we're fortunate enough to live in right now, and how
much smarter and better versed in history our founders were
(31:51):
because they learned from all of recorded history the flaws
that prior governments had made when they tried to build
our own. And now this woke virus, which I like
to think that we have extinguished to a large degree
in this country, although there's still pockets that need to
(32:12):
be attacked and inoculated against. It actually is running more
rampant in Europe right now than it even is here,
and I hope we can change that. We'll take some
of your calls. I want to dive into the Jimmy
kimmeill think a bit more buck Like I said on
the road, He'll have you tomorrow solo when I'm traveling
up to Michigan to be one of the keynote speakers
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at they're big event up there. But I want to
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We've got a lot of different people reacting from a
variety of different perspectives, as is often the case. Let's
play Kevin in New York City d D on the
(34:24):
listener dial.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Let's listen to left cheers when Charlie Kirk loses his life,
but yet they are outraged when Jimmy Kimmel loses his show.
And that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
To know about them.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Despicable.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
A lot of people taking that perspective. I don't doubt
that at all. Here is Jana in Milwaukee. She's a
VP of HR. Watch out, make sure you're not breaking
any rules. Here's what she had to say.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
As a former VP of HR, I can absolutely tell
you that it's perfectly fine for an employer to fire
employee who's beliefs to not align with the beliefs of
the organization. I think it saw summed up welsowhere in
social media.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
The other day.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
If you believe others can be shot for their opinion,
don't be surprised when you get fired for yours.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
And we've got another here. Here is Gary Lakewood, California,
AM eleven fifty, the Patriot.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Here's what he has to say so far.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
I have never laughed so hard listening to your show
than I did earlier this week when Buck asked Clay
if he beats his polo shirts with a baseball bat
and then said the neck of his shirt was so
big even Fabio would blush.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
This is why you guys are the best.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
You cover the important topics with wisdom while simultaneously making
us all laugh as you talk throughout the day being
your authentic selves.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You guys are appreciated.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Thank you for that. I'm not gonna lie. I was
shook by that one.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Sometimes I know when my outfits are going to be criticized.
I thought I looked good in that polo and obviously
I can't be trusted to dress myself before the steven
a to bight.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I don't know that I've ever done this before.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I facetimed my wife standing in front of the mirror
and asked, am I allowed to wear this?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Or do I look like an imbecile?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And then I brought in my assistant, Katie was also
there with her at the house.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I was like, Katie, I need your verdict too.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And then when I got outside, I asked producer Ali
three different women, Hey, am I humiliating myself with what
I have chosen to wear. I don't think I can
be allowed to dress myself anymore. When we come back,
we'll take some more of your calls. We'll dive into
this question, free speech or not? With Jimmy Kimmel suspended
over his comments on ABC
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