September 22, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts welcome comedian and media personality Adam Carolla for an in-depth conversation about the ongoing controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension from ABC.
Carolla, a longtime friend of Kimmel and an outspoken conservative in Hollywood, offers a unique perspective on the situation, emphasizing that while Kimmel may face professional consequences, he remains financially secure and creatively active. Carolla argues that the broader implications of the controversy lie in the cultural and corporate shifts occurring in post-Trump America, where companies like Disney are beginning to recognize the economic power of conservative consumers.
The discussion explores the tension between free speech and corporate accountability, with Carolla defending the right to speak freely while acknowledging that employers also have the right to respond. He notes Kimmel’s reluctance to apologize and his sense of responsibility toward his staff, suggesting that the decision to return to the show may hinge on whether Kimmel prioritizes personal conviction or professional loyalty.
Carolla and the hosts also reflect on the state of comedy in America, celebrating what they describe as a “salad days” moment for comedians who now feel freer to satirize the political left. They argue that the cultural climate has shifted, allowing for more honest and fearless humor, especially in the wake of President Trump’s 2024 victory. The conversation touches on the decline of traditional late-night television and the rise of podcasts and streaming platforms as more democratic spaces for comedy and commentary.
The hour also delves into DEI policies and reverse discrimination, with Carolla sharing a personal story about his seven-year wait to take the LA Fire Department entrance exam, while a minority candidate was fast-tracked. A caller from Wisconsin corroborates similar experiences in law enforcement hiring, sparking a broader conversation about affirmative action, meritocracy, and the unintended consequences of diversity initiatives.
Political analysis continues with a breakdown of polling data showing Republicans leading Democrats on key issues like the economy, immigration, and crime. The hosts highlight the media’s failure to cover the attempted assassination of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, noting the suspect’s transgender identity and linking it to a disturbing pattern of transgender-related violence in recent high-profile cases. They criticize the Biden administration’s vague responses and lack of transparency on the issue, arguing that the media and political establishment are ignoring a growing trend.
The show also features a viral moment from Virginia Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger, who dodges a direct question about her stance on transgender bathroom and locker room policies. The hosts praise the reporter for pressing the issue and use the exchange to underscore what they see as the Democratic Party’s refusal to engage honestly on cultural issues. They argue that if a politician won’t answer a basic question about gender policy, they can’t be trusted on anything else.
Closing out the hour, Clay and Buck discuss the Democratic Party’s internal identity crisis, pointing to figures like Chuck Schumer and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as emblematic of the party’s struggle to reconcile its radical base with its mainstream image. They speculate on AOC’s potential presidential ambitions and criticize her hypocrisy, referencing her luxury travel and “Tax the Rich” messaging.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome then our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Encourage you to find us Everywhere podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
On social media, on.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
YouTube, where soon all three hours of the program will
be going up on video. Not that I understand why,
but you can find us on video there and you
can find us on video. All sorts of places you
can find me, you can find Buck. We're trying to
get the word out wherever we can, on as many
different platforms as we can use to find people where
(00:32):
they are. We are joined now, as we told you
we would be, by comedian Adam Carolla, who did a
show back in the day, The Man Show, which I
think is long past due for a resumption, because I
think young men today would love this show even more
than young men did when it was initially on twenty
some odd years ago. Adam, you're still traveling. You are unabashed,
(00:58):
which is somewhat rare Hollywood. A person who is willing
to publicly say, hey, you know, I'm a Republican, I
tend to vote Republican and for Trump and things like that.
I'm putting those words in your in your mouth. But
that is somewhat of a rarity. And you're also really
good friends with Jimmy Kimmel and you guys have remained
good friends for a very long time, so this story
(01:21):
obviously can hit you from multiple different directions. Appreciate you
coming on. I know you've been on several times before.
You listen to the show often. What do you think
people should know about this situation and where do you
expect it to go from here?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I mean, the first thing I think all Americans
need to understand is a lot there's a lot of
people of the world on the planet and even in
this our own country that have real problems. You know,
we sometimes get so caught up in what this millionaire
(01:56):
is trying to do, to what that billionaire everybody he's
going to land on their feet. You know, if Jimmy's
show never came back for another day, Jimmy would still
be rich, He'd still be creating, he'd still be working,
he'd go right on to whatever his next endevor was,
(02:18):
and whatever you think about Trump, He'll be playing golf
this Sunday with other rich guys. So, you know, I
think people need to get a little bit of the
weight of the world kind of vibe to spell that
a little bit because everybody in this story could be
could be Trump, could be the FCC, could be Kimmel.
(02:41):
Everyone's gonna land on their feet, and everyone's doing just fought. Now,
then we get into the implications part, where we go,
all right, well, everyone's still going to be rich and
everyone's gonna still be a homeowner. But you know, what
are the what are the implications here? I've always kind
of said people should be free to say whatever they
(03:02):
want to say on TV, radio, podcasts, what have you,
and then whoever pays them should also be free to
fire them if they want. And I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think we lost Jimmy there. I mean, I think
we lost Adam talking about Jimmy there for a minute.
We'll see if we can get him back with a
better signal.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
In general, I think the proposition here that there is
going to be some sort of major, significant ripples or
impact to Adam's point actually fades somewhat because no one's
taking Jimmy's ability to speak away. And I think a
lot of times when people say, oh, the First Amendment,
in this day and age, it probably matters less to
(03:51):
be on a platform than ever.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Let me let me put this to you. Let me
put this to you, Adam. I mean, I think that
the you're you're right obviously in that Jimmy's rich, all
these other people that we're talking about here, He's going
to keep doing stuff no matter what. If he's on
the show, that's fine. But I think that the reason
that they won is there was just the rawness of
people still processing what had happened to Charlie Kirk, the
worst political assassination in I don't in mind in living memory,
(04:18):
and I think that that had a lot of people
very upset and rattled. But in terms of the broader
implications for corporate America, there has been everyone's been saying
a vibe shift post Trump twenty twenty four, where it
feels like companies are certainly more cautious about spitting in
the face of half of the country. And I think
specifically with Disney, people are looking at this like, does
(04:41):
Disney realize that they're not untouchable as well? From the consumer?
I mean, how do you view that part of it?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, the companies are going to go wherever the money
is going, but sometimes they're like a battleship. It takes
you a while to turn around, you know. So we've
been kind of talking about this stuff for eight years.
They've been turning the battleship around for seven years, and
they've finally corrected cores, you know, and you know it's
(05:11):
something of course Michael Jordan knew all those years ago,
which is Republicans by Nikes as well. So Madison Avenue
and or you know, think about the kind of commercials
you used to see four or five years ago, the
mixed race couples, the mixed race lesbian couple is driving
(05:32):
the Subaru. And now you've got Dana White is the
voice of Dodge, and there's a guy doing donuts in
the parking lot with a flag flying off the back
of the dot Ram truck like it's turned around. I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Where do you see this going? How does this play out?
We're talking to Adam Carolla, longtime friend of Jimmy Kimmel.
You know Jimmy, Well, if Disney comes to him and
they say, hey, you've got to apologize and you've got
to make a donation, that's one of the demands that's
out there from one of the affiliate stations. Do you
think the show comes back. Do you think Jimmy just says,
you know what I've done my duty on this show.
(06:11):
I'm going to ride off into the sunset and do
a new show. How do you think this plays out?
If you're analyzing the Disney and the Jimmy perspective, Well.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Knowing Jimmy like I do, he's not a big apologizer,
which but neither am I. And so you can go, well,
that's not a good trait, and it's also but it
can be a noble trait. I believe what I say.
I mean, I get asked to apologize for stuff a lot,
and I say no because I stand by what I said. Also,
(06:45):
Jimmy does have quite a sense of responsibility to his employees,
and I know he feels very sort of personally responsible
for the families and all the people and the breadwinners
and all the people that he employ. And so he
is in a little bit of a quandary because he
does feel very indebted to those people and feels like,
(07:09):
you know, they have family and livelihoods and he's a
big part of that. And so it's a kind of
a weird position he's in because I don't think he's
planning on apologizing. On the other hand, if the show
goes away, there's a lot of people that are going
to be out of job. Then he feels responsible for
those people.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Adam, you're a Trump guy. Jimmy's clearly not. Some people
would say, how are you guys friends still to the
extent that you are, How would you describe it? How
would you respond to that?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, you know, I think when there's a divorce, it's
incumbent upon the parents who act responsively in front of
the kid, Right, So you'd like to make a good
example and not trash mama or talk crap about papa,
(08:02):
you know, in front of the kids. And I do
feel a little bit. First off, we're friends, you know,
we laugh, We talk about food, sports, and make fun
of people and talk about the old days and that
kind of stuff. You know, politics is not. It's not
like we ever did talk about politics, you know, and
we never we didn't. We just didn't begin to pop
(08:25):
talk about politics. It's like, you know, it's like, do
you guys have to not talk about politics? Well, we
never spoke about politics and we've basically just been begin
But I think I feel like a little bit of
a fiduciary duty to, like, hey, listen, whether it's your
daughter or your old comedy partner. Just because you disagree
(08:47):
politically doesn't mean you have to hate the person, not
break brave with the person, not to have dinner with
the person. I mean, you don't have to ruin Thanksgiving
because you guys have different political beliefs. And I feel
the same way of friends and old comic partner.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Do you feel like we're entering a new age or
revitalized age of comedy because comedians are able to be
funny again? I guess that's a simplistic way of putting it.
But they're allowed to make fun of the leftist cathedral
a little bit. I mean, certainly with Biden's dementia and
the cover up and all these things. Now it feels
(09:24):
and with Trump winning, it feels like you can actually
just make jokes without the same fear of cancelation.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, is this the best it's.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Been in that world in your memory? Or is it
a return to like the late nineties? How would you
view the landscape right now for making jokes without fear
of getting picketed? And you know, the the Subaru drivers
you mentioned before getting very angry at you that sort
of thing.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I think it's a you know, salad days for comedy,
and the best time for comedy is always going to
be the freest time for comedy. So that'll be the
best time for all artistic and expression, you know best.
The best time for painters are going to be the
freest time to paint or sculptors, poets, you know, writers.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
What if you.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Like you're looking over your shoulder and you're not gonna
be able to do your job as a comedian. And
I always use the example of so when you go
out to eat and you're with one of your buddies
and you want a steak and a martini and you
want to just kind of cut loose, and you see
a single woman sitting in the booth right next to yours,
and you know she can hear every word you say, Well,
(10:40):
you change the conversation. It's not as free a conversation
with hers their you know what I mean. And if
you're kind of looking over your shoulder when you're talking,
it's never going to be the best version of what
you're going to have to say.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We're talking to Adam Carolla.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Last question for you, and we appreciate you calling in
and giving us your your analysis. Here you called in
the last time I think we had you on because
you're you found out your house survived the awful fires
in Los Angeles. I've seen you post a couple of
times since you also used to work in construction, scale
(11:16):
of one to ten. How is the city of Los
Angeles and the state of California doing in allowing people
to rebuild who lost everything in those LA fires?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
What are you seeing on the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You got the construction background, and you've got a home
that survived but was in the midst of much of
the destruction.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, I have a blog at Adamola dot com and
you can just people can keep up with it and watch,
you know, I chronicle the whole thing. In terms of Malibu,
the answer would be zero. There is zero building. And
I go up and down Pacific Coast Highway every day.
I had us on a swivel. I know what a
(12:00):
lumber truck looks like. I know what case on riggs
look like. I know when guys are out there shooting
elevations with a transit like. I understand what it's like
to prepare a site to build on. There is one
hundred percent zero work going on in Malibu. There's a
little bit in the Palisades not much. But Malibu is
(12:23):
a big, fat zero burger, and I think altadenas pretty
much a zero burger as well. And it's permit, it's
red tape, it's Coastal Commission to the city, it's the
city council, it's all the above. But it's what I
predicted from my hotel room the following morning after the fire.
You guys have no idea what you're in for, because
(12:45):
you're not going to get permits and the city's not
going to be helpful.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
One last question.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I know I don't think you've told this story, Adam,
but since it ties in with the fires, when you
graduated high school, you thought, Hey, maybe i'll be in
LA fire and you went and applied, and then when
you finally got a call back, how long did it take?
And there's been a lot of discussion about DEI what
was your experience in that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well. I was a poor kid who wasn't going to
college and came from a poor family and really didn't
have anything going on in my life, and the job
market was bad and the economy was bad. This is
the mid mid early eighties, and I literally just walked
to the North Hollywood Fire Department because It would have
(13:33):
been a perfect job for a guy like me. I
played football, I was pretty strong, I was kind of
not scared of stuff, and I would have been a
good fireman. And so I just walked in off the
street and I just said, can I sign up to
be a fireman? And the guy said, yeah, fill this
out and I handed it back to him and he said,
but don't hold your breath. And I said why and
(13:56):
he said, it's going to be a while. We're not
really hiring white guys right now. And I thought, all right.
I just handed him the paper and then I got
on with my life. And years went by, and I
was driving a truck and working on construction site and
swinging a hammer. And at some point my dad showed
up when I was having lunder me and he gave
(14:17):
me an envelope from the LA Fire Department because it
was his address. I wrote on the pamp on the
piece of paper because I was living with my dad
at the time. It was so long ago, and I
had a test date and I said, hell, I'll take
the test. It's been seven years. And I went to
go take the test and I was standing in line
and I was asking everyone Wednday signed up and I
(14:39):
talked to a young black woman behind me and I said,
when did you sign up to take this test because
it's been seven years for me? And she said Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh my god, that is an unbelievable So you had
to wait seven years to take the test to be
an LA Fireman. Black woman in line with you signed
up and got the test that week. Yeah, it's amazing.
Adam will appreciate the time. I know you're a busy guy,
and thanks for calling us up.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Thanks for having me. Guys always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And that's Adam Carolla. That's a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I think really kind of goes to the essence seven
years to become an LA Fireman if you're a white guy,
black woman that week she gets to take the test.
I bet, also, Buck, the tests probably are scored differently.
Just going to toss it out there, I bet you
don't have to get the same scores that you're not
even held even on that test back in those days.
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
They're they're wighing in over at the View. We can
get to that in a little bit, but they're very
upset about the government of Music It's power to take
Jimmy Kimmel off the air. The government didn't do anything.
This is made very clear by the fact that we
all believe that the ABC is going to bring him back.
So and I also think that they did this intentionally
in order to help Jimmy Kimmel actually protect him from himself.
(17:04):
Over at Disney, Madam Wisconsin wants to weigh in on
that law enforcement discrimination conversation real quick, go for it, Matt.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Well.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
First time caller Adam Carolla did a great job. I
am such a huge fan of his. But what he
told you about the we call it preference points here
in Wisconsin. And about twenty years ago, afterried graduated with
a police law degree, I wrote an exam for our
state police and got a ninety four percent, very good score,
but I got surpassed by somebody who was a minority
female with a disability who wrote in eighty seven. But
(17:35):
after getting all their preference points, they pushed at ninety
five or ninety six, and it was just enough to
put them ahead of me to proceed on with the
interview process. So this has been going on for about
twenty years. I used her basically were first racism. I
always thought it was wrong, but if you brought it up,
you know you were shunned. But I was telling your
call screener. It was kind of a blessing in disguise
(17:55):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back in Clay Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. We got a bunch of
different clips that I want to make sure that we
get to to kind of update you on how everything
is going out there. And I've sent a couple in.
Let me pull them up to see exactly what's going
on here.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
First play a clip of Harry Inton. We are not
that far away, one year away from the election taking
place in the midterms, and here is what CNN's Harry
Inton says Republicans are advantaged by Let's listen to that cut.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
So what are we seeing, you know, Donald Trump being underwater,
Democrats and all this guarantees us we're gonna fly high
in the midtrans Let me tell you this guarantees you nothing. Nothing,
because at this particular point, the Democrats are the New
Orleans Saints of political parties. What are we talking about,
trust the Dems or GOP?
Speaker 10 (19:54):
More?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
On the economy? Who leads on the economy.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
Republicans by seven immigration, Republicans by THIRDI how about crime,
a big issue for Donald Trump? And the Republicans. Look
at that lead by twenty two points. So the bottom
line is this, at this particular point, the ball may
bee on the ground, but the Democrats have not picked
up the ball and running with it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
If anything, at.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
This particular point, it's the Republicans who are running with
the ball on the top issues the economy, immigration, and crime.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, so that is out there worth paying attention to.
As we said, about fourteen months away from the mid
terms taking place. I also wanted to play this because Buck,
you talked about it, and.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There was the report from Mary Margaret.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Olahan at the Daily Wire came out on Friday afternoon
that the individual who tried to kill Supreme Court Justice
Kavanaugh in the Washington, DC area, this would be assassin
was motivated by the fact that he wanted to overturn
the overturning of Roe v.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Wade.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
That is, he wanted to kill a justice. Why this
is so important and I feel like it's totally been
snowed under you mentioned it. We still have no idea
who specifically leaked this opinion, but the goal was to
put pressure on Republicans and potentially meaning Republican appointees on
the Court and potentially get one of these individuals killed. Remember,
(21:19):
Democrats had control of the Senate and they had control
of the White House, so if the Brett Kavanaugh assassin
had succeeded, this was a draft opinion. It doesn't become
law until there is actually the release of the opinion.
So if you kill a Supreme Court justice, you get
a new one appointed. The outcome of this case could
(21:41):
have potentially been changed based on assassin goals. And I
believe we have audio of somebody will share me the number,
but that was just discussed by the White House press
briefing with Caroline Levitt thirty four. Let's play that and
then I'll get you to react as well.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Buck Charlie's killer.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
With his boyfriend who identifies as transgender and then we
have the Annunciation shooting, the Covenant shooting, all.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Of these incidents.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
The President said that we're looking into transgender violence.
Speaker 11 (22:09):
Does that mean the FBI is looking into it? And
can you give any more clarity on how the administration
is viewing this of taking specifically transgender violence. It's definitely
something worth looking into, and I think anyone who denies
that at this point is being willfully ignorant, and the
administration is taking it seriously. All causes of violence and
why these people would be driven to such evil and
(22:30):
such hatred, And there's probably many answers to that question,
but the administration is really focused on all of them
for individual investigations. In cases, of course, the FBI and
the Department of Justice are leading those.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Okay, so this would be assassin also trans. So Buck,
you just heard that question. The extent the audio wasn't great.
Minneapolis trans shooter, Nashville trans shooter, the would be Brett
Kavanaugh assassin, trans shooter, and the person who just assassinated
Charlie Kirk living with a trans person and motivated in
(23:06):
some way by trans related issues. Seems kind of like
a significant trend just in the last year of outrageous
levels of trans violence.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well, you have people who are disproportionately in let's just say,
in need of mental health assistance. That's that's part one
of this. It used to be that transgenderism was considered
something that alone was grounds for serious mental health treatment. Uh,
and now we've reached an era where there has to
(23:39):
be not only affirmation of it, but celebration of it.
And if you don't go along with that, as we
have seen in the press for years now, there are
these really wild claims about like transgenocide. You know, the
effort clay just to stop the surgeries and hormone giving.
(24:02):
It's mostly hormone giving, but sometimes surgery too, and these
clinics that are doing this in places around the country
that has been responded to by the pro trans community
with a complete outrage, like the notion that you wouldn't
want a twelve year old or a fourteen year old
(24:22):
to start taking puberty blockers. They can't answer these questions
like what are the long term studies on first of all,
will this make this person actually feel better? Long term
studies than that, if you really look at it, very poor.
What are the long term health implications of this very
poorly understood, and yet they push all of this and
they still don't really know what to say about I mean,
(24:44):
this has cut twenty Clay. This is Abigail Spanberger, who's
supposed to be the great moderate hope of the Democrat
Party in Virginia, right, the sort of a throwback Mostly
I think she's just boring and doesn't really stand for anything.
That's their version of a mom. Here she is saying, well,
I'll let you listen to her on the trans issue.
(25:04):
Play twenty.
Speaker 12 (25:05):
Do you support biological males who say they're women using
women's locker rooms and bathrooms and competing in women's sports.
Speaker 13 (25:13):
Well, the circumstances this legal case plays out is really
one of we've had.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Court cases settled or.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
Judged here in Virginia in the fourth District, the former
Gavin Grim case related to bathroom usage. And in fact,
the argument is the assessment is there needs to be
much clearer guidance in terms of what is an executive
orders binding assessment of Title nind versus what has been
a decision of a court.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
But do you personally support these policies? You personally support them, everybody?
Do you support these locker room or bathroom policies? Congresswomen,
why can't you answer this question directly? Congresswoman, Congress women,
do you support these bathroom and locker room says Nick?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Thank you?
Speaker 12 (26:00):
Why can you answer these questions correctly?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
We know why? And she won't, and I'm dizzy from
her answer was that was a remarkable series of just
non seculiturs and spewing nonsense.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
This is what media should do.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't know, guys, can you give me the guy's
name who asked that question? There's no reason to be
a media figure if you're going to ask questions that
no one wants to know the answer to, and sometimes
that non answer is more revealing than an actual answer
would be. This is how broken the Democrat Party is.
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If you ask me, should men be able to compete
in women's sports? I would say, of course not. Ninety
nine percent of you listening to us right now. Hecket,
maybe one hundred percent would say no doubt. What does
it say about the Democrat Party that that answer, which
is all just gobblygook and designed to distract from the
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question itself, is basically the standard tenant. By the way,
give him credit. I don't know what else he's ever done,
So I'm not endorsing everything he's ever done. I like
you need to say that.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But that is.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
WJLATV reporter Nick Minnock. So that's the person who followed up.
That's the person asking this question to me. If I
lived in Virginia, this would be enough for me to
vote single handedly against Abigail Spamberger. I don't know anything
else about her positions. But if you will not honestly
tell me what you believe on this issue, how can
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I trust you on anything. That's why I think this
issue of men and women sports is such a crucible marker,
because if you'll lie to me about this, I can't
trust you on anything else.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, this is.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Also where Democrats find themselves as we're going to be
getting ready for a midterm election here constantly playing the
game of well, I'm not one of those Democrats. I'm
some other democrat. I'm not one of the open borders
guys in your daughter's locker room. You know, go down
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the list of all these things. Notice how I just
want to point this out. When was the last time
you heard anybody talk about climate change? Just to give
you a sense of what a absolutely manufactured delusion book
plug climate change is. It was Clay Obama gave a
speech and I think it was the Coastguard Academy. He said,
the biggest national security threat we face is climate change.
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This was a and I understand right now, like Buck,
why are you even wasting our time? Who cares about
climate change? Exactly a few years ago it was the
biggest thing that we all had to be so worried about.
Now it's absolutely nothing. Democrats are in. The party is insane.
Their ideas make no sense. And here you have Chuck Schumer,
who's one of a perfect example of this. Chuck Schumer
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and Nancy Pelosi and these others exist to pretend the
Democrat Party today isn't what it really is, to fool
older voters who just don't know where.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Is Where's on? Mom?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Donnie Clay, here you go listen to this play seventeen. Please.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
There are two key questions here that you haven't answered.
One is will you ever endorse him? And two what
do you need from him to get your endorsement?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Okay, well, first of all, you know, I know him.
We've had a good relationship in the past, and we
had a good meeting two weeks ago, a very long
meeting with a lot of serious questions. And all I
can tell you is I'm going to continue talking to him.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
What's the hold up?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I got to continue talking to him.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And that's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Is part of the calculus that if you endorse a
Democratic Socialist, you're worried it will be damaging to your party.
Maybe they've been your chances of winning back the Senate.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I'm going to continue talking to him, Danny, you can
answer me again.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I mean a CNN actually during real journalism. For a
second there, I was shocked by it, but that's legitimate.
She can see Clay, we can all see it. The
whole game here is people like Schumer who have been
in this game forever. They are at the top of
the Democrat power structure, but they have to tell the
general public that the Democrats are something other than what
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they are, especially this up and coming generation of lunatics. Yeah,
and this is why I've said, Sorry, New York. Maybe
Mom Donnie just is an awful mayor for you, But
I think that the premise of her question is accurate,
and so is the response of Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
By trying to dodge it. He's terrified that Mam Donnie
and AOC are going to be seen as the face
of the Democrat Party in the midterms because overwhelming majorities
of Americans I think will reject them. And that's why
he's trying to dodge the question. But even CNN now
is on and starting to ask a little bit at
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least basic questions that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
They're afraid to answer it. Sometimes somebody's afraid to answer
a question.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Say, it's all about, you know, boiling the frog slowly.
AOC is a Democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders a Democratic socialist.
They just they want to wait and wait so that people,
you know, don't really understand what's going on and who's
really calling the shots and what kind of policies they
really want to do. He just doesn't want to say
it out loud. He doesn't want to tell people the truth.
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Chuck Schumer about the direction, I don't think the mom
donniism play is some fringe thing Democrats are going to walk.
I think that's what the Democrat Party is.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, Chuck Schumer's just there to.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Lie about that, and I think that's certainly what a
AOC believes, which is why I know you talked about this.
On Friday, Axios reported she's gonna run for president. Probably,
She's definitely going to run for president. Oh and I
think she sees herself as the heir to the Bernie
Sanders left of the party. And you can see that
with the way that she's been handling the attacking the
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oligarchy tour when this is all very funny. They only
traveled via a private plane and reports our AOC stayed
in one thousand dollars a night hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Some of this.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Stuff, like, I bet that no one listening to us
right now, hardly. There may be some billionaires out there
that have stayed in one thousand dollars a night hotel rooms.
And there is just no way that all you had
to do was just fly commercial first class. You can
fly first class and just stay in normal hotel rooms.
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They want to live like oligarchs, but they want to
live like oligarchs while being members of Congress and the Senate.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Right, they want.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
All of the benefits that come with making a lot
of money without having made the money themselves. Instead, they
want the taxpayer to fund it or their donors to
fund it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's the story. Of these people. Remember Tax the.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Rich when AOC showed up at the fifty thousand dollars
per ticket Mechala and her white Tax the Rich dress.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I mean, these people are such frauds.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
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What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and
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in the country, drawing forty thousand people last year. It
retraces firefighter Steven Siller's final footsteps that day. After abandoning
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his car, He ran with sixty pounds of gear from
the foot of the Battery Tunnel to the Twin Towers.
He never made it out the five thousand. The five
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Speaker 6 (34:11):
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Speaker 4 (34:26):
Closing up shop today on Clay and Bock. Thanks for
being here with us. We have a lot that we're
gonna be diving into this week. Actually have an interesting
announcement for you where I'll be next week, but I'll
hold off on that for a couple of days here.
Try to leave you in a little bit of suspense.
But we've got Clan and I because there's two of us,
can cover a lot of ground here in this country
(34:46):
and even globally, and so I've got some interesting plans
in the mix, what we call it t's in the business,
and I'll be telling you about those, but you'll be
in Clay's capable radio hands all of next week. I
will be uh on, I'll be working but kind of
on a on a in a different way at a house.
Put that it's like an undercover assignment. I think that's
(35:09):
fair to say. There you go. Yeah, I'm doing some
doing some interesting stuff abroad. So we will get into
all of that, all those details coming up this week.
And let's take caller Greg in Dalton, Georgia. What's going on? Greg?
Speaker 10 (35:23):
Hi, guys, I have a solution for the whole late
night debacle. Jimmy's uh you know on on probation, Colbert
is on the way out. Bring back Conan O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Uh, thank you for the suggestion. Conan's politics are no
different than those guys.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yea, the Conan hates he hates all MAGA as well, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean my suggestion would be, if you truly want
to see if non partisan try to appeal to everyone,
late night comedy can work. I've seen this before. Nate
Bargatsi is the biggest comedian in America right now. He's
selling out stadiums, he's selling out arenas. If he can't
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do it, it doesn't work. So if I were doing
late night television and you said, hey, who's a comedian
that is not partisan, that is not political, that's trying
to appeal to every single person, Democrat, Republican, Independent, I
would try Nate Bargatsi, And I'm not sure that would
work because, again, Buck, one of the issues structurally is
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podcasts have taken over long form celebrity conversation to a
large extent, and places like Netflix have taken over comedy specials.
So how much demand is there for the late night shows?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
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career on a whim. No, actually, that's not how it
works anymore. You're talented, if you have an audience, plenty
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Welcome then our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
On social media, on.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
YouTube, where soon all three hours of the program will
be going up on video. Not that I understand why,
but you can find us on video there and you
can find us on video. All sorts of places you
can find me, you can find Buck. We're trying to
get the word out wherever we can, on as many
different platforms as we can use to find people where
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they are. We are joined now, as we told you
we would be, by comedian Adam Carolla, who did a
show back in the day, The Man Show, which I
think is long past due for a resumption, because I
think young men today would love this show even more
than young men did when it was initially on twenty
some odd years ago. Adam, you're still traveling. You are unabashed,
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which is somewhat rare Hollywood. A person who is willing
to publicly say, hey, you know, I'm a Republican, I
tend to vote Republican and for Trump and things like that.
I'm putting those words in your in your mouth. But
that is somewhat of a rarity. And you're also really
good friends with Jimmy Kimmel and you guys have remained
good friends for a very long time, so this story
(01:21):
obviously can hit you from multiple different directions. Appreciate you
coming on. I know you've been on several times before.
You listen to the show often. What do you think
people should know about this situation and where do you
expect it to go from here?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I mean, the first thing I think all Americans
need to understand is a lot there's a lot of
people of the world on the planet and even in
this our own country that have real problems. You know,
we sometimes get so caught up in what this millionaire
(01:56):
is trying to do, to what that billionaire everybody he's
going to land on their feet. You know, if Jimmy's
show never came back for another day, Jimmy would still
be rich, He'd still be creating, he'd still be working,
he'd go right on to whatever his next endevor was,
(02:18):
and whatever you think about Trump, He'll be playing golf
this Sunday with other rich guys. So, you know, I
think people need to get a little bit of the
weight of the world kind of vibe to spell that
a little bit because everybody in this story could be
could be Trump, could be the FCC, could be Kimmel.
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Everyone's gonna land on their feet, and everyone's doing just fought. Now,
then we get into the implications part, where we go,
all right, well, everyone's still going to be rich and
everyone's gonna still be a homeowner. But you know, what
are the what are the implications here? I've always kind
of said people should be free to say whatever they
(03:02):
want to say on TV, radio, podcasts, what have you,
and then whoever pays them should also be free to
fire them if they want. And I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think we lost Jimmy there. I mean, I think
we lost Adam talking about Jimmy there for a minute.
We'll see if we can get him back with a
better signal.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
In general, I think the proposition here that there is
going to be some sort of major, significant ripples or
impact to Adam's point actually fades somewhat because no one's
taking Jimmy's ability to speak away. And I think a
lot of times when people say, oh, the First Amendment,
in this day and age, it probably matters less to
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be on a platform than ever.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Let me let me put this to you. Let me
put this to you, Adam. I mean, I think that
the you're you're right obviously in that Jimmy's rich, all
these other people that we're talking about here, He's going
to keep doing stuff no matter what. If he's on
the show, that's fine. But I think that the reason
that they won is there was just the rawness of
people still processing what had happened to Charlie Kirk, the
worst political assassination in I don't in mind in living memory,
(04:18):
and I think that that had a lot of people
very upset and rattled. But in terms of the broader
implications for corporate America, there has been everyone's been saying
a vibe shift post Trump twenty twenty four, where it
feels like companies are certainly more cautious about spitting in
the face of half of the country. And I think
specifically with Disney, people are looking at this like, does
(04:41):
Disney realize that they're not untouchable as well? From the consumer?
I mean, how do you view that part of it?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, the companies are going to go wherever the money
is going, but sometimes they're like a battleship. It takes
you a while to turn around, you know. So we've
been kind of talking about this stuff for eight years.
They've been turning the battleship around for seven years, and
they've finally corrected cores, you know, and you know it's
(05:11):
something of course Michael Jordan knew all those years ago,
which is Republicans by Nikes as well. So Madison Avenue
and or you know, think about the kind of commercials
you used to see four or five years ago, the
mixed race couples, the mixed race lesbian couple is driving
(05:32):
the Subaru. And now you've got Dana White is the
voice of Dodge, and there's a guy doing donuts in
the parking lot with a flag flying off the back
of the dot Ram truck like it's turned around. I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Where do you see this going? How does this play out?
We're talking to Adam Carolla, longtime friend of Jimmy Kimmel.
You know Jimmy, Well, if Disney comes to him and
they say, hey, you've got to apologize and you've got
to make a donation, that's one of the demands that's
out there from one of the affiliate stations. Do you
think the show comes back. Do you think Jimmy just says,
you know what I've done my duty on this show.
(06:11):
I'm going to ride off into the sunset and do
a new show. How do you think this plays out?
If you're analyzing the Disney and the Jimmy perspective, Well.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Knowing Jimmy like I do, he's not a big apologizer,
which but neither am I. And so you can go, well,
that's not a good trait, and it's also but it
can be a noble trait. I believe what I say.
I mean, I get asked to apologize for stuff a lot,
and I say no because I stand by what I said. Also,
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Jimmy does have quite a sense of responsibility to his employees,
and I know he feels very sort of personally responsible
for the families and all the people and the breadwinners
and all the people that he employ. And so he
is in a little bit of a quandary because he
does feel very indebted to those people and feels like,
(07:09):
you know, they have family and livelihoods and he's a
big part of that. And so it's a kind of
a weird position he's in because I don't think he's
planning on apologizing. On the other hand, if the show
goes away, there's a lot of people that are going
to be out of job. Then he feels responsible for
those people.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Adam, you're a Trump guy. Jimmy's clearly not. Some people
would say, how are you guys friends still to the
extent that you are, How would you describe it? How
would you respond to that?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, you know, I think when there's a divorce, it's
incumbent upon the parents who act responsively in front of
the kid, Right, So you'd like to make a good
example and not trash mama or talk crap about papa,
(08:02):
you know, in front of the kids. And I do
feel a little bit. First off, we're friends, you know,
we laugh, We talk about food, sports, and make fun
of people and talk about the old days and that
kind of stuff. You know, politics is not. It's not
like we ever did talk about politics, you know, and
we never we didn't. We just didn't begin to pop
(08:25):
talk about politics. It's like, you know, it's like, do
you guys have to not talk about politics? Well, we
never spoke about politics and we've basically just been begin
But I think I feel like a little bit of
a fiduciary duty to, like, hey, listen, whether it's your
daughter or your old comedy partner. Just because you disagree
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politically doesn't mean you have to hate the person, not
break brave with the person, not to have dinner with
the person. I mean, you don't have to ruin Thanksgiving
because you guys have different political beliefs. And I feel
the same way of friends and old comic partner.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Do you feel like we're entering a new age or
revitalized age of comedy because comedians are able to be
funny again? I guess that's a simplistic way of putting it.
But they're allowed to make fun of the leftist cathedral
a little bit. I mean, certainly with Biden's dementia and
the cover up and all these things. Now it feels
(09:24):
and with Trump winning, it feels like you can actually
just make jokes without the same fear of cancelation.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, is this the best it's.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Been in that world in your memory? Or is it
a return to like the late nineties? How would you
view the landscape right now for making jokes without fear
of getting picketed? And you know, the the Subaru drivers
you mentioned before getting very angry at you that sort
of thing.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I think it's a you know, salad days for comedy,
and the best time for comedy is always going to
be the freest time for comedy. So that'll be the
best time for all artistic and expression, you know best.
The best time for painters are going to be the
freest time to paint or sculptors, poets, you know, writers.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
What if you.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Like you're looking over your shoulder and you're not gonna
be able to do your job as a comedian. And
I always use the example of so when you go
out to eat and you're with one of your buddies
and you want a steak and a martini and you
want to just kind of cut loose, and you see
a single woman sitting in the booth right next to yours,
and you know she can hear every word you say, Well,
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you change the conversation. It's not as free a conversation
with hers their you know what I mean. And if
you're kind of looking over your shoulder when you're talking,
it's never going to be the best version of what
you're going to have to say.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We're talking to Adam Carolla.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Last question for you, and we appreciate you calling in
and giving us your your analysis. Here you called in
the last time I think we had you on because
you're you found out your house survived the awful fires
in Los Angeles. I've seen you post a couple of
times since you also used to work in construction, scale
(11:16):
of one to ten. How is the city of Los
Angeles and the state of California doing in allowing people
to rebuild who lost everything in those LA fires?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
What are you seeing on the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You got the construction background, and you've got a home
that survived but was in the midst of much of
the destruction.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, I have a blog at Adamola dot com and
you can just people can keep up with it and watch,
you know, I chronicle the whole thing. In terms of Malibu,
the answer would be zero. There is zero building. And
I go up and down Pacific Coast Highway every day.
I had us on a swivel. I know what a
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lumber truck looks like. I know what case on riggs
look like. I know when guys are out there shooting
elevations with a transit like. I understand what it's like
to prepare a site to build on. There is one
hundred percent zero work going on in Malibu. There's a
little bit in the Palisades not much. But Malibu is
(12:23):
a big, fat zero burger, and I think altadenas pretty
much a zero burger as well. And it's permit, it's
red tape, it's Coastal Commission to the city, it's the
city council, it's all the above. But it's what I
predicted from my hotel room the following morning after the fire.
You guys have no idea what you're in for, because
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you're not going to get permits and the city's not
going to be helpful.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
One last question.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I know I don't think you've told this story, Adam,
but since it ties in with the fires, when you
graduated high school, you thought, Hey, maybe i'll be in
LA fire and you went and applied, and then when
you finally got a call back, how long did it take?
And there's been a lot of discussion about DEI what
was your experience in that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well. I was a poor kid who wasn't going to
college and came from a poor family and really didn't
have anything going on in my life, and the job
market was bad and the economy was bad. This is
the mid mid early eighties, and I literally just walked
to the North Hollywood Fire Department because It would have
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been a perfect job for a guy like me. I
played football, I was pretty strong, I was kind of
not scared of stuff, and I would have been a
good fireman. And so I just walked in off the
street and I just said, can I sign up to
be a fireman? And the guy said, yeah, fill this
out and I handed it back to him and he said,
but don't hold your breath. And I said why and
(13:56):
he said, it's going to be a while. We're not
really hiring white guys right now. And I thought, all right.
I just handed him the paper and then I got
on with my life. And years went by, and I
was driving a truck and working on construction site and
swinging a hammer. And at some point my dad showed
up when I was having lunder me and he gave
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me an envelope from the LA Fire Department because it
was his address. I wrote on the pamp on the
piece of paper because I was living with my dad
at the time. It was so long ago, and I
had a test date and I said, hell, I'll take
the test. It's been seven years. And I went to
go take the test and I was standing in line
and I was asking everyone Wednday signed up and I
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talked to a young black woman behind me and I said,
when did you sign up to take this test because
it's been seven years for me? And she said Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh my god, that is an unbelievable So you had
to wait seven years to take the test to be
an LA Fireman. Black woman in line with you signed
up and got the test that week. Yeah, it's amazing.
Adam will appreciate the time. I know you're a busy guy,
and thanks for calling us up.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Thanks for having me. Guys always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And that's Adam Carolla. That's a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I think really kind of goes to the essence seven
years to become an LA Fireman if you're a white guy,
black woman that week she gets to take the test.
I bet, also, Buck, the tests probably are scored differently.
Just going to toss it out there, I bet you
don't have to get the same scores that you're not
even held even on that test back in those days.
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get to that in a little bit, but they're very
upset about the government of Music It's power to take
Jimmy Kimmel off the air. The government didn't do anything.
This is made very clear by the fact that we
all believe that the ABC is going to bring him back.
So and I also think that they did this intentionally
in order to help Jimmy Kimmel actually protect him from himself.
(17:04):
Over at Disney, Madam Wisconsin wants to weigh in on
that law enforcement discrimination conversation real quick, go for it, Matt.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Well.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
First time caller Adam Carolla did a great job. I
am such a huge fan of his. But what he
told you about the we call it preference points here
in Wisconsin. And about twenty years ago, afterried graduated with
a police law degree, I wrote an exam for our
state police and got a ninety four percent, very good score,
but I got surpassed by somebody who was a minority
female with a disability who wrote in eighty seven. But
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after getting all their preference points, they pushed at ninety
five or ninety six, and it was just enough to
put them ahead of me to proceed on with the
interview process. So this has been going on for about
twenty years. I used her basically were first racism. I
always thought it was wrong, but if you brought it up,
you know you were shunned. But I was telling your
call screener. It was kind of a blessing in disguise
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because I actually not utilizing my college degree. But I
soon after started my own BIS. I'm seventeen years in.
I do professional animal candleg and control.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back in Clay Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. We got a bunch of
different clips that I want to make sure that we
get to to kind of update you on how everything
is going out there. And I've sent a couple in.
Let me pull them up to see exactly what's going
on here.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
First play a clip of Harry Inton. We are not
that far away, one year away from the election taking
place in the midterms, and here is what CNN's Harry
Inton says Republicans are advantaged by Let's listen to that cut.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
So what are we seeing, you know, Donald Trump being underwater,
Democrats and all this guarantees us we're gonna fly high
in the midtrans Let me tell you this guarantees you nothing. Nothing,
because at this particular point, the Democrats are the New
Orleans Saints of political parties. What are we talking about,
trust the Dems or GOP?
Speaker 10 (19:54):
More?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
On the economy? Who leads on the economy.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
Republicans by seven immigration, Republicans by THIRDI how about crime,
a big issue for Donald Trump? And the Republicans. Look
at that lead by twenty two points. So the bottom
line is this, at this particular point, the ball may
bee on the ground, but the Democrats have not picked
up the ball and running with it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
If anything, at.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
This particular point, it's the Republicans who are running with
the ball on the top issues the economy, immigration, and crime.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, so that is out there worth paying attention to.
As we said, about fourteen months away from the mid
terms taking place. I also wanted to play this because Buck,
you talked about it, and.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There was the report from Mary Margaret.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Olahan at the Daily Wire came out on Friday afternoon
that the individual who tried to kill Supreme Court Justice
Kavanaugh in the Washington, DC area, this would be assassin
was motivated by the fact that he wanted to overturn
the overturning of Roe v.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Wade.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
That is, he wanted to kill a justice. Why this
is so important and I feel like it's totally been
snowed under you mentioned it. We still have no idea
who specifically leaked this opinion, but the goal was to
put pressure on Republicans and potentially meaning Republican appointees on
the Court and potentially get one of these individuals killed. Remember,
(21:19):
Democrats had control of the Senate and they had control
of the White House, so if the Brett Kavanaugh assassin
had succeeded, this was a draft opinion. It doesn't become
law until there is actually the release of the opinion.
So if you kill a Supreme Court justice, you get
a new one appointed. The outcome of this case could
(21:41):
have potentially been changed based on assassin goals. And I
believe we have audio of somebody will share me the number,
but that was just discussed by the White House press
briefing with Caroline Levitt thirty four. Let's play that and
then I'll get you to react as well.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Buck Charlie's killer.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
With his boyfriend who identifies as transgender and then we
have the Annunciation shooting, the Covenant shooting, all.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Of these incidents.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
The President said that we're looking into transgender violence.
Speaker 11 (22:09):
Does that mean the FBI is looking into it? And
can you give any more clarity on how the administration
is viewing this of taking specifically transgender violence. It's definitely
something worth looking into, and I think anyone who denies
that at this point is being willfully ignorant, and the
administration is taking it seriously. All causes of violence and
why these people would be driven to such evil and
(22:30):
such hatred, And there's probably many answers to that question,
but the administration is really focused on all of them
for individual investigations. In cases, of course, the FBI and
the Department of Justice are leading those.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Okay, so this would be assassin also trans. So Buck,
you just heard that question. The extent the audio wasn't great.
Minneapolis trans shooter, Nashville trans shooter, the would be Brett
Kavanaugh assassin, trans shooter, and the person who just assassinated
Charlie Kirk living with a trans person and motivated in
(23:06):
some way by trans related issues. Seems kind of like
a significant trend just in the last year of outrageous
levels of trans violence.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well, you have people who are disproportionately in let's just say,
in need of mental health assistance. That's that's part one
of this. It used to be that transgenderism was considered
something that alone was grounds for serious mental health treatment. Uh,
and now we've reached an era where there has to
(23:39):
be not only affirmation of it, but celebration of it.
And if you don't go along with that, as we
have seen in the press for years now, there are
these really wild claims about like transgenocide. You know, the
effort clay just to stop the surgeries and hormone giving.
(24:02):
It's mostly hormone giving, but sometimes surgery too, and these
clinics that are doing this in places around the country
that has been responded to by the pro trans community
with a complete outrage, like the notion that you wouldn't
want a twelve year old or a fourteen year old
(24:22):
to start taking puberty blockers. They can't answer these questions
like what are the long term studies on first of all,
will this make this person actually feel better? Long term
studies than that, if you really look at it, very poor.
What are the long term health implications of this very
poorly understood, and yet they push all of this and
they still don't really know what to say about I mean,
(24:44):
this has cut twenty Clay. This is Abigail Spanberger, who's
supposed to be the great moderate hope of the Democrat
Party in Virginia, right, the sort of a throwback Mostly
I think she's just boring and doesn't really stand for anything.
That's their version of a mom. Here she is saying, well,
I'll let you listen to her on the trans issue.
(25:04):
Play twenty.
Speaker 12 (25:05):
Do you support biological males who say they're women using
women's locker rooms and bathrooms and competing in women's sports.
Speaker 13 (25:13):
Well, the circumstances this legal case plays out is really
one of we've had.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Court cases settled or.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
Judged here in Virginia in the fourth District, the former
Gavin Grim case related to bathroom usage. And in fact,
the argument is the assessment is there needs to be
much clearer guidance in terms of what is an executive
orders binding assessment of Title nind versus what has been
a decision of a court.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
But do you personally support these policies? You personally support them, everybody?
Do you support these locker room or bathroom policies? Congresswomen,
why can't you answer this question directly? Congresswoman, Congress women,
do you support these bathroom and locker room says Nick?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Thank you?
Speaker 12 (26:00):
Why can you answer these questions correctly?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
We know why? And she won't, and I'm dizzy from
her answer was that was a remarkable series of just
non seculiturs and spewing nonsense.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
This is what media should do.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't know, guys, can you give me the guy's
name who asked that question? There's no reason to be
a media figure if you're going to ask questions that
no one wants to know the answer to, and sometimes
that non answer is more revealing than an actual answer
would be. This is how broken the Democrat Party is.
(26:38):
If you ask me, should men be able to compete
in women's sports? I would say, of course not. Ninety
nine percent of you listening to us right now. Hecket,
maybe one hundred percent would say no doubt. What does
it say about the Democrat Party that that answer, which
is all just gobblygook and designed to distract from the
(26:59):
question itself, is basically the standard tenant. By the way,
give him credit. I don't know what else he's ever done,
So I'm not endorsing everything he's ever done. I like
you need to say that.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But that is.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
WJLATV reporter Nick Minnock. So that's the person who followed up.
That's the person asking this question to me. If I
lived in Virginia, this would be enough for me to
vote single handedly against Abigail Spamberger. I don't know anything
else about her positions. But if you will not honestly
tell me what you believe on this issue, how can
(27:33):
I trust you on anything. That's why I think this
issue of men and women sports is such a crucible marker,
because if you'll lie to me about this, I can't
trust you on anything else.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, this is.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Also where Democrats find themselves as we're going to be
getting ready for a midterm election here constantly playing the
game of well, I'm not one of those Democrats. I'm
some other democrat. I'm not one of the open borders
guys in your daughter's locker room. You know, go down
(28:05):
the list of all these things. Notice how I just
want to point this out. When was the last time
you heard anybody talk about climate change? Just to give
you a sense of what a absolutely manufactured delusion book
plug climate change is. It was Clay Obama gave a
speech and I think it was the Coastguard Academy. He said,
the biggest national security threat we face is climate change.
(28:28):
This was a and I understand right now, like Buck,
why are you even wasting our time? Who cares about
climate change? Exactly a few years ago it was the
biggest thing that we all had to be so worried about.
Now it's absolutely nothing. Democrats are in. The party is insane.
Their ideas make no sense. And here you have Chuck Schumer,
who's one of a perfect example of this. Chuck Schumer
(28:49):
and Nancy Pelosi and these others exist to pretend the
Democrat Party today isn't what it really is, to fool
older voters who just don't know where.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Is Where's on? Mom?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Donnie Clay, here you go listen to this play seventeen. Please.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
There are two key questions here that you haven't answered.
One is will you ever endorse him? And two what
do you need from him to get your endorsement?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Okay, well, first of all, you know, I know him.
We've had a good relationship in the past, and we
had a good meeting two weeks ago, a very long
meeting with a lot of serious questions. And all I
can tell you is I'm going to continue talking to him.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
What's the hold up?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I got to continue talking to him.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And that's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Is part of the calculus that if you endorse a
Democratic Socialist, you're worried it will be damaging to your party.
Maybe they've been your chances of winning back the Senate.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I'm going to continue talking to him, Danny, you can
answer me again.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I mean a CNN actually during real journalism. For a
second there, I was shocked by it, but that's legitimate.
She can see Clay, we can all see it. The
whole game here is people like Schumer who have been
in this game forever. They are at the top of
the Democrat power structure, but they have to tell the
general public that the Democrats are something other than what
(30:11):
they are, especially this up and coming generation of lunatics. Yeah,
and this is why I've said, Sorry, New York. Maybe
Mom Donnie just is an awful mayor for you, But
I think that the premise of her question is accurate,
and so is the response of Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
By trying to dodge it. He's terrified that Mam Donnie
and AOC are going to be seen as the face
of the Democrat Party in the midterms because overwhelming majorities
of Americans I think will reject them. And that's why
he's trying to dodge the question. But even CNN now
is on and starting to ask a little bit at
(30:50):
least basic questions that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
They're afraid to answer it. Sometimes somebody's afraid to answer
a question.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Say, it's all about, you know, boiling the frog slowly.
AOC is a Democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders a Democratic socialist.
They just they want to wait and wait so that people,
you know, don't really understand what's going on and who's
really calling the shots and what kind of policies they
really want to do. He just doesn't want to say
it out loud. He doesn't want to tell people the truth.
(31:16):
Chuck Schumer about the direction, I don't think the mom
donniism play is some fringe thing Democrats are going to walk.
I think that's what the Democrat Party is.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, Chuck Schumer's just there to.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Lie about that, and I think that's certainly what a
AOC believes, which is why I know you talked about this.
On Friday, Axios reported she's gonna run for president. Probably,
She's definitely going to run for president. Oh and I
think she sees herself as the heir to the Bernie
Sanders left of the party. And you can see that
with the way that she's been handling the attacking the
(31:48):
oligarchy tour when this is all very funny. They only
traveled via a private plane and reports our AOC stayed
in one thousand dollars a night hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Some of this.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Stuff, like, I bet that no one listening to us
right now, hardly. There may be some billionaires out there
that have stayed in one thousand dollars a night hotel rooms.
And there is just no way that all you had
to do was just fly commercial first class. You can
fly first class and just stay in normal hotel rooms.
(32:24):
They want to live like oligarchs, but they want to
live like oligarchs while being members of Congress and the Senate.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Right, they want.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
All of the benefits that come with making a lot
of money without having made the money themselves. Instead, they
want the taxpayer to fund it or their donors to
fund it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's the story. Of these people. Remember Tax the.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Rich when AOC showed up at the fifty thousand dollars
per ticket Mechala and her white Tax the Rich dress.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I mean, these people are such frauds.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
This coming week in New York City, Tunnel the Towers
Foundation having their annual Tunnel the Towers five K Run
and walk, held each year on the last Sunday of September.
What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and
two now considered one of the top five k runs
in the country, drawing forty thousand people last year. It
retraces firefighter Steven Siller's final footsteps that day. After abandoning
(33:16):
his car, He ran with sixty pounds of gear from
the foot of the Battery Tunnel to the Twin Towers.
He never made it out the five thousand. The five
K pays homage to the three hundred and forty three
FDNY firefighters, law enforcement officers, and thousands of civilians who
lost their lives on nine to eleven. Proceeds from the
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catastrophically injured service members, and more. Producer Ali and Cash
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When you come out of the tunnel, there firefighters service
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Speaker 6 (34:11):
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Speaker 4 (34:26):
Closing up shop today on Clay and Bock. Thanks for
being here with us. We have a lot that we're
gonna be diving into this week. Actually have an interesting
announcement for you where I'll be next week, but I'll
hold off on that for a couple of days here.
Try to leave you in a little bit of suspense.
But we've got Clan and I because there's two of us,
can cover a lot of ground here in this country
(34:46):
and even globally, and so I've got some interesting plans
in the mix, what we call it t's in the business,
and I'll be telling you about those, but you'll be
in Clay's capable radio hands all of next week. I
will be uh on, I'll be working but kind of
on a on a in a different way at a house.
Put that it's like an undercover assignment. I think that's
(35:09):
fair to say. There you go. Yeah, I'm doing some
doing some interesting stuff abroad. So we will get into
all of that, all those details coming up this week.
And let's take caller Greg in Dalton, Georgia. What's going on? Greg?
Speaker 10 (35:23):
Hi, guys, I have a solution for the whole late
night debacle. Jimmy's uh you know on on probation, Colbert
is on the way out. Bring back Conan O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Uh, thank you for the suggestion. Conan's politics are no
different than those guys.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yea, the Conan hates he hates all MAGA as well, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean my suggestion would be, if you truly want
to see if non partisan try to appeal to everyone,
late night comedy can work. I've seen this before. Nate
Bargatsi is the biggest comedian in America right now. He's
selling out stadiums, he's selling out arenas. If he can't
(36:10):
do it, it doesn't work. So if I were doing
late night television and you said, hey, who's a comedian
that is not partisan, that is not political, that's trying
to appeal to every single person, Democrat, Republican, Independent, I
would try Nate Bargatsi, And I'm not sure that would
work because, again, Buck, one of the issues structurally is
(36:31):
podcasts have taken over long form celebrity conversation to a
large extent, and places like Netflix have taken over comedy specials.
So how much demand is there for the late night shows?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Well, also the ability of TV executives to end your
career on a whim. No, actually, that's not how it
works anymore. You're talented, if you have an audience, plenty
of places for you to go to work your craft.
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