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October 3, 2025 21 mins

In this episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor welcomes Jack Ciattarelli, Republican nominee for Governor of New Jersey, for a deep dive into the state’s most pressing challenges. They discuss skyrocketing energy costs, ineffective green energy mandates, rising crime rates, failing schools, and unchecked overdevelopment. Ciattarelli points to growing GOP momentum, with surging Republican voter registrations and even support from Democrat mayors, while criticizing opponent Mikie Sherrill’s scandals and radical left policies. Together, Tudor and Jack make the case for common-sense conservative leadership to restore economic growth, public safety, and traditional values in New Jersey—paralleling similar struggles unfolding in Michigan. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we have Jack
Chitdarelly with us. We are so excited about what is
going on in New Jersey. If you don't know, he
is the Republican nominee for governor. He is running against
the Democratic nominee, Mikey Cheryl. She's had all kinds of
all kinds of scandals going on, and Jack, you've been
out there to make sure everybody knows about it. Tell

(00:24):
us what's going on in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Tudor, thank you for the opportunity. It's great to be
with you.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're working hard getting our message out all up and
down the state.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're in an excellent position.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I really do feel confident we're going to declude they're
victory in thirty three days. There are positive signs everywhere.
We're out fundraising my opponent, and that's saying something considering
that Republicans are the minority party in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Over the last six weeks, a.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Number of Democratic mayors across the state have endorsed my candidacy.
That's also a very very good sign, but also just
compared to twenty one when we almost won, I will
just tell you this time around the energy is just electric.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
People across the state want change.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Film Every's policies have failed us for the past eight years,
and I just keep reminding people, if you want change,
you got to make a change.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Here's your opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You're making me think back to the campaign trail, and
for people who are listening, Jack is actually on the
campaign trail right now. He's calling in just from like
driving around meeting people. This is how it goes when
you're in those last thirty three days. You are all
over the place. And I appreciate the fact that you
came on the podcast to talk today because I think
it's so important to get the message out that there

(01:30):
is this energy. We are feeling this same thing in
Michigan right now. I spent the last two weekends up
in northern Michigan and it was just amazing the amount
of people that are excited. I feel like Michigan and
New Jersey have been in a somewhat similar situation of
high energy costs, some of these radical policies, and it
seems similar that people are turning toward the Republicans and

(01:53):
saying they're done. I mean, we saw that in twenty
four New Jersey started to look like there was a
chance it would even go for Donald Trump, and that
was something we were totally not expecting. What do you
think about the impact of these common sense policies on
the people of New Jersey, Well.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Tutor, First of all, you're spot on and the change
in the mindset of voters. I mean, Trump performed ten
points better in New Jersey in twenty four compared to
twenty of the fifty states.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It was the single greatest improvement.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
So no, he didn't win New Jersey, but the ten
point improvement says something.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I think that the.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Current policies from the far left, and we've seen that
time and time again here in New Jersey, where the
Democrats have controlled the legislature for twenty five years and
the executive branch for the last eight years.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
People just rejecting it outright.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Electricity rates are going through the ceiling because Phil Murphy's
green energy policies haven't worked.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
And my opponent's doubling down on them.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
People are tired with the nonviolent crime all across the state,
the break ins, the car thefts, the flash mobs on
our Jersey shore and at the mall because.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Of cash list bail. We're getting rid of that.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
When I'm governor, there's got to be a consequence for
breaking the law. We've seen public education slips significantly New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
We slipped from two to twelve.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
On NASH report card because the Democrats have watered down
the curriculum with a whole bunch of things that really
belong at home at the kitchen table. We're going to
get back the basis and teaching critical life skills when
I'm governor. And in our suburban communities, we've got over
development that's really got a lot of people furious about
what impact that's having our property taxes and congestion and alike.

(03:28):
Because of the social engineering that each and every one
of our towns has to be available to affordable housing
here in the state, the mandates don't work, and in fact,
we just had a press conference on that earlier today.
So these are the issues, and we continue to talk
about them every.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Day on the trail.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I feel like you could be my East Coast twin
right now. I mean, honestly, I'm listening to this, I'm like,
this is exactly Michigan. In the high utility costs, the
high electricity costs, I think is the biggest killer for
people in our state, and I'm suspecting it's similar for
your state, similar weather. Also, just the fact that you've
got these crushing green energy plans. We had it from Whitmer.

(04:07):
She's been really pushing this hole like we're going to
be one hundred percent renewable energy by twenty forty, which
is so stupid, I mean, so stupid, it's not even possible.
And I suspect you're probably dealing with some of that
same stuff in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Peter Ours was even worse.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Our current governor wanted to make us totally carbon free
by twenty thirty five.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
It wasn't realistic.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
He shut down six different electricity generation plants for more.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's been so stupid, so stupid.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
He put a moratorium on the burning of natural gas
for electricity, didn't expand our nuclear capabilities, and didn't even
accelerate solar on the rooftops of all the warehousing that's
gone in, which are really prime real estate. There's no
nimby issues when it comes to solar rays on rooftops.
And he stopped all that, and then he betted all
on wind, which was never going to meet our energy supply.
Our energy demands when he took office, like New Jersey

(04:59):
wasn't tricity exporter. We now have to import it through
his exchanges, competing with other states, and the bill is
going through the roof, and people are pissed, and rightfully so.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So this is what I think the people outside of
states like ours, because you've probably seen the same thing
where all of this manufacturing is going to Tennessee and
Kentucky and down south where they have abundant energy. Texas
is really getting a lot of the businesses from Michigan.
It's probably a similar situation to New Jersey. But that's

(05:28):
what if you are. If you are not in New
Jersey right now and you are listening to what Jack
is saying, you have to understand that if he does
not win, you take the chance of these radical policies
going outside of New Jersey someday because they believe this crap.
They believe it because it's their fad, it's what they
think is popular. They don't believe it's going to work.

(05:50):
They obviously don't have a plan to actually get the
energy there, but they believe in the idea of manipulating
the minds of the people, and they love to take
it to Washington, d So we really need everybody to
support these people that are running in these states where
the opponent is so radical, because you don't want it
to come back to you one day in Washington, d C.

(06:13):
But we jack, we're talking about people's homes. But when
you look at this from a manufacturing standpoint, how much
is this killing businesses? In New Jersey, we.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Are getting our butt kicked by Pennsylvania tutor. Now they've
got a Democratic governor. He's burning seven coal burning plants.
He's burning natural gas like there's no tomorrow. Just cut
the ribbon on a new nuclear reactor. He's got the juice,
it's abundant, it's reliable, it's cost effective, and he's getting
manufacturing that we're not. He's getting the data centers that

(06:43):
we're not. But to the point you were making a
few moments ago, our most recent TV ad has an
actual clip from an interview that my opponent was giving.
It's her in the commercials saying this, when it comes
to green energy, we know it's going to cost you
an arm and a leg, but if you're a good person,
you'll do it.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's a fad, there's not actually there's no reason for it.
It's not actually effective, it's not going to work. They
just think it feels good, so they say it, and
then they put these policies in that actually try to
make it happen, which it can't happen. It's not possible.
All of us listening, no, this is not possible. But
there's too many people, all of these young minds that

(07:23):
have been manipulated by these people that exactly that, because
it's meaningful if you are told, if you don't go
along with me, you're not a good person. They know
that that actually has legs with young, young minds who
want to be seen as good people. But that's manipulative.
It's terrible. That's why we have to fight against that.

(07:43):
I mean the same thing with crime. I know you've
seen it there. We see it in Detroit and Flint
and Mischigan Heights. We see it all over the state
of Michigan. This idea of you're a nice person if
you let people out and you don't put them into
jail even though they've committed hideous crimes.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And you're right about it being manipulative, it's also oh
so insulting because what they're saying is if you don't
agree with us on our green energy policies, you're not
only wrong, you're bad.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Listening closely to her words. If you're a good person,
you'll do it. So in the words, if I disagree
with wind farms off our Jersey Shore, which is Sancrosank
in New Jersey, we love our Jersey Shore. If my
opponent was from New Jersey, she'd know that nobody longs
the Jersey Shore wants those wind farms, not to mention
the fact that it would ruin our commercial and recreational
fishing industries, which are a huge component of our state economy.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
So we've actually had a lot of people on from
the fishing groups out there that have said this has
been so damaging to the fishing industry. I think that's
something that doesn't get enough attention. I'm hoping that the
Trump administration is going to put more attention on what
that's done. He's talked a lot about you know, birds
and farming and taking and taking out bats that take

(08:54):
out all of these other insects that can affect your farm.
But what it's doing to the fishing industry and to
the whales, I know people are like, oh, this is
not happening. No, it actually is. And when you when
you interview these people from these industries that say, you know,
if you're not, if you're actually like again using common
sense and thinking about this, you have these massive wires

(09:18):
underneath the ocean floor that are just generating. Because these
these power plants essentially are creating a ton of energy,
it's shaking the whole ocean floor. There's a constant humming.
It's causing these fish to not be able to use
their radar, and they're just dying.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
And interesting.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I mean, President Chrump's put a temporary holt on the
wind farms off the Jersey shore.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I'll make that permanent. But it was just amazing to
watch the liberals who are but they're also for wind.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
And when all the sonar mapping was taking place off
the Jersey shore before where Trump stopped it, we had
whales washing up on our beaches.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Stopped washing up on our beaches, Wind.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Turbines and one hundred feet of water with cement pilings
thirty feet into the ocean floor. Doesn't disturb the ocean ecology.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Come on. And so but here we are today. The
good news. President put a temporary halt on it.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
So we're going to pull New Jersey out of the
Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, which is a carbon tax policy.
Our air is no cleaner, electricity is no less expensive.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
In fact, it's that an all time high.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And I could save rate payers a half a billion
dollars a year, that's homeowners, tenants, and businesses by pulling
out a Reggie. It's a carbon tax policy that has
failed us. So that's one of my first executive orders.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. There's just so much momentum right
now for Republicans, and I know historically we've always looked
at Jersey as a blue state, and Michigan seems like
it's going blue. But like you said at the beginning,
you've seen so much energy. How much of that energy

(11:03):
are you seeing from younger people. When we were up
north in Michigan this past weekend, we were with the
Turning Point Group there. They had just received so many
new members and all these young kids were like, you
know what, I'm going to voice my conservative values. I'm
not going to be shy. I'm going to go out
and vote and I really don't like what I saw

(11:24):
with Charlie Kirk. How much momentum do you think it
is coming from this younger generation that says, man, this
is getting really sick and twisted and we're done with
these radical liberals.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
We're seeing participation from young people on the Republican side
like we haven't seen in a great number of years,
and so.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's really really encouraging.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
But I got to tell you the most encouraging sign
Tutor compared to twenty twenty one when I lost in
a very very close race, is today compared to twenty
twenty one, there are one hundred thousand fewer registered Democrats
and two hundred thousand more registered Republicans.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Says that we're right.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
About the issues we're talking talking about today.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's what I think is so impressive right now. And
that's what we're seeing in Michigan. And we've been talking
to a lot of our sportsmen. If you're a hunter,
then your life is being affected by these Democrat governors
that get they get to appoint these directors of agencies,
whether it's the dn R or the Natural Resources Agency.

(12:22):
They're affecting your life. And I think for the first time,
these folks are starting to see, hey, my voice is
not being heard because these governors are taking away my
very rights, the very right I have to go out
and hunt and fish. And it seems like we're getting
some of those people. Do you feel that on the
ground in New Jersey as well?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Absolutely too.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
And I'll tell you there's over two hundred thousand New
Jerseys that belong to the New Jersey Outdoor Alliance, who
represents the interests of all the people who fish, the
people who hunt.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And the like.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
And they've endorsed me for governor. So I'm really really
pleased with the fact that they're getting actively engaged, made
their endorsement, and they're out there knocking on doors all
because of the failed Democratic.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Policies and very liberal policies.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I mean, one example of that is the bear hunt
up in northwest New Jersey, which is the most rural
part of the state. It's the most humane way to
thin the herd. It's been a tradition for decades, family
after family, generation after generation up in Northwest New Jersey,
and the Democrats tried to end the bear hunt. We're
gonna have a bear hunt in New Jersey when I'm governor.

(13:28):
But it's great to have the involvement of the New
Jersey Outdoor Alliance, and they're two hundred thousand plus members.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
So for people listening that are on the fence of
whether or not you should have a bear hunt, don't
You probably don't live in an area where there are
a lot of bears. But we were in the up
and that's the Upper Peninsula of Michigan over the weekend
and they were telling us there, we've got to increase
the number of bear tags that we have in the
Upper Peninsula of Michigan because the bears are becoming there's

(13:55):
so many bears now, they're eating all the deer. They said,
we can't even we can't even find any there are
no young deer left anymore. They're taking all the funds.
They're just ripping them apart. And you think this is
something you can't imagine if you don't live in those areas.
But these policies are very important when you hear about
a bear hunt. If you are on the fence about that,

(14:17):
you don't understand what other people are living.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
And what always bugs me is that the bills that
are put in the end the bear hunt come from
urban legislators who have no regard for cossadors who live
in the.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Rural parts of the state. Yeah, so the science is clear.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
The most humane way to thin the herd is with
the annual bear hunt, which again is a long held
tradition here in New Jersey for generation after generation in
the most rural parts of our state.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
And I mean this, we have this similar situation with wolves,
and it's just been the radical liberals. They they don't
even live there. They have no idea what they're talking about.
You make such a great point. It's always the people
that live in the urban area that will never see
a bear in their life, that go, oh my gosh,
how could you hurt the sweet little pooh bears? How
could you do that? They have no idea.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, they have no idea. It really is very disrespectful.
But it's also not just being out of touch.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's arrogant. Yes, I mean, who are you from the urban.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Parts of the state to be telling us in the
rural parts of the state how to go.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
About our way of life here.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
So again, let's follow the real science, not the political science.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
The real science is clear, it's the most humane way
it's in the herd well.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
So polling science shows me that you are now tied
neck and neck with your opponents. So what do you
think that this means in the next thirty days? What
do you have to do to make sure that that
tie goes to a win for you?

Speaker 3 (15:45):
First of all, what's really encouraging about that tutor is
historically speaking here in New Jersey, Republicans under pole because
we are the minority party.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So for the polls that shown it's a dead heat
or US with a one point lead, is really really encouraging.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
But listen, we've got to finish strong and we will.
We're out working out energizing my opponent every way. She's
ducking appearances left and right. Her first couple of interviews
have been terrible. Her debate performance two weeks ago showed
without a doubt that she's not qualified to run the state,
doesn't understand the state. And so we just got to

(16:19):
continue to go out there and grind it each and
every day. And that's what continue to do. In any
given day, I've got eight to nine appearances, we touch
at least four counties every single day, and we don't
take the voters for granted. My opponent's not getting out there,
and it's taken.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Off a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, maybe she's not getting out there because she's had
a little bit of scandal in recent days. Her military
record got released for some reason. She was discharged, But
we don't know exactly what the story is there, and
she's not reacting well to that. Tell us a little
bit about that.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
First of all, she's built her entire political brand upon
her time at the Naval Academy and her time in
the service, and we salute her a service. An Army captain,
we saluted his service. My brother was a sergeant in
the Army. We sualuted every veterans service.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
But here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
When she was at the Naval Academy, there was a
cheating scandal. There was nineteen ninety four. We know for
a fact that she was involved. We know for a
fact that her punishment was not being allowed to participate
in the graduation ceremonies nor having her name listed in
the commencement exercise program. Those are the facts she's saying.

(17:27):
It's because she refused to turn in her classmates.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think she's lying.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think she either lied to investigators or she might
have been someone who was caught cheating, and her story
has changed since the story broke.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
First it was that she didn't turn in her classmates,
that's why she was punished.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Then it was yes, I know that there was a
test out there circulating prior to the actual test being taken.
So all we're asking Tode are something really simple. She
and only she can give the approval to release her
disciplinary records at the Naval Academy. Those disciplined records will
show us why she was punished. I think the people
in New Jersey deserve to know why she was punished.

(18:04):
And if what she is saying is true, why not
release the records?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, if you got no problem, what's why are you
hiding it? And that's always the funny part about these democrats.
I just have a couple more minutes with you. You mentioned
something earlier, and I want you to get into it
because we have people in Michigan now. I hear Republicans
starting to use the phrase affordable housing, and even over
the weekend, people were like, Oh, we've got to get
this affordable housing. I said, you guys, you got to

(18:30):
understand affordable housing doesn't mean houses that people can afford
it means government owned housing. Can you get into that
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, Listen, we do have a housing crisis in New
Jersey in terms of real estate being out of the
reach of a great many people, our seniors, are disabled people,
our veterans, and our young people. But that doesn't mean
we should be building high density housing in suburban communities
where there's no infrastructure, no mass transit, no soor capacity,
store water management issues, and no jobs. All we're doing

(19:02):
is putting more island cars on the road. And you know, Teter,
I find this to be one of the biggest hypocrisies
of the Democratic Party who like to portray themselves.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
As being pro environment.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
What the hell is pro environment about over developing suburban
communities where there's no mass transit, no infrastructure, all the
things I was talking about before. We call that social engineering.
So I want to use affordable housings I mean by
which to get people to live in our urban centers again,
and hopefully you find homes for our disabled people. We
got homeless, vets, we've got veterans, as I said, we've

(19:32):
got seniors and young people.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
But the way we're doing it in New Jersey is
nothing other.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Than social engineering, and it's bad public policy. The Democrats
are taking garden right out of the garden state here,
and we're going to stop that when i'm governor.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah. And it really is taking away the opportunity for
people in those communities to have their own home with
that white picket fence in the yard that people dream of,
and the reason that people move out to those areas.
I think you make a great point. There are urban
areas where people can do the whole fifteen minute city
if they want to. We don't want the suburban areas
to be forced into the fifteen minute city because they're

(20:06):
not set up that way. For these groups, these radical
leftists that say we want to have all of these
electric vehicles, then you build these high rises with no
place that you could even plug in a vehicle. They
don't nothing they do make sense.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
It doesn't make any sense at all.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
It only puts more on link cars on already congested roads,
It drives up property taxes, and it's totally inconsistent with
the Democratic vision for sustainability. It's the biggest hypocrisy. It
is along with what they do in public education. And
I hope the next time around we could talk about
that too.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah. Right, we need to get into that. So okay,
before you go, tell everybody where they can support you.
What's your website? How can they find you?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Jackfournj dot com and that's the number four tootor jackfournj
dot com. That's also our handle on all the social
media platforms, and you know, people can learn about my
travels and to get engaged with the campaign any way
they might like.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Well, I appreciate how active you are. You're out there
working hard, Jack Chaudarelli. It's probably a good thing that
your last name is not on the website because it's
a hard one to spell.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, I got to tell you though, you have my conflidence.
You nailed it.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh, thank you good.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I don't know how much you practiced, but you nailed
it well.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I appreciate that. Thank you so much, and thank you
for being on today, and thank you for fighting hard
for American values.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Tutor. I'm looking forward next time.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on the
Tutor Dixon podcast. Make sure you check it out at
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts,
and join us next time. Have a blessed Day

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